pvp-arena

[swift mango]

Label team 3
ReiT+Blanc+RH team 2.
Easy

[placid bloom]

well probably not worth running Nero in SPA over Blanc

[swift mango]

[placid bloom]

but Nero team so fun

yeah Scar Soda lose hard to Label now

might just swap to Blanc team

[unique wagon]

I think Rhea can cook a better def

Or Kara idk

Maybe Railtracer he helps people a lot

[swift mango]

There is a reason people complain about too much B3, because the real limitations to making comps is the B2.

[unique wagon]

By definition, yes Noah Blanc (and maybe Biscu) are above everyone else but we dont have SSSS

[swift mango]

So every B3 is 1 tier less powerful than B2 in actual usage

I would rather have another Noah or Blanc than SW.

[unique wagon]

But im not demoting everyone 1 tier for Noah Blanc

We alr face this issue in PvE with Crown

[swift mango]

And biscuit

[tulip quest]

Yea I know you would rather have hot bunny man I respect you Man of Culture

https://tenor.com/view/culture-man-of-culture-cultured-gif-10903367

[unique wagon]

He wants Velvet

What is this rare emote

[tulip quest]

I'm too lazy using the Meta emotes

[unique wagon]

Th meta emotes

WHY IS BRO ADVERTISING FACEBOOK ON DISCORD

Its capital M, u cant say otherwise

[placid bloom]

this kinda sus

[swift mango]

Would misindom to SW easily

[placid bloom]

yes that is the point, you want SW to get indom for the longer trade

[swift mango]

Bay wipe by Libby

[placid bloom]

cuz Cinderella suck with indom

[swift mango]

indom rapipi for the win.

nothing beat MG in indom war

[oak hatch]

Rip maybe they’ll be back after velvet drops

[placid bloom]

problem is there is no good set up for Moran after team 1 and 3 take all the defensive tool

[tulip quest]

The cindy comp loses to Noah comps if she is blocked on burst

[placid bloom]

it's indom SW, the Cinderella is just to force defensive tool out of other team

SWHA kinda feeds a lot though

[tulip quest]

hmmmm

[placid bloom]

so it can get Rapi Blanc to 2RL

if they also commit

[swift mango]

SW could actually win off burst with enough investment

[placid bloom]

my SW always win off burst

[swift mango]

so you need Noise+Noah at less to tank her atk.

[tulip quest]

What kind man and how many rocks

[placid bloom]

burst her is worse usually

you only lose if they are heavy stall and heal

normal team cannot tank Blanc

[swift mango]

idk zlaw just got killed by off burst indom SW yesterday with Noah+Biscuit team when I suggested him to that.

[placid bloom]

I mean she gets 120% Atk off burst anyway, and in PvP if there is no defensive tool there is not a lot of survivability

even Scar Trina 1 buff can already lethal a lot of team and that's not considered high damage team

SW over 10s can easily kill most teams

[tulip quest]

aight fair point

[gaunt pulsar]

yeah, he technically can stop playing for a few weeks or a month and still return to whale more without much damage

[tulip quest]

Nikke is afk game I get that at some point you can only do so little in an afk game after being a long player maybe they bored or somethin

[placid bloom]

do I believe

[tulip quest]

unless ur a pvp nut who likes testing comps or pve nut doing solo raid for many hours like me

[azure star]

NIKKE is dry until treasure Moran bring life back into the universe

[gaunt pulsar]

probably AK: endfield got them, someone here mentioned that their whale also stopped playing as soon as it released, but they still might return for sure

[tulip quest]

I also wanted to try endfield but both my pc and time at the edge

[ivory violet]

rapi red hood sadly isn't as good in pvp because it's 30 fps so she only gets 5 ticks of her burst instead of 10

and iirc her drill doesn't splash either

[ornate mist]

can i have this deck build link

[gaunt pulsar]

https://nikke.top/

[river dune]

Same

[swift mango]

Moran already fine unit, even making her better doesn't fill the hole of lack b1-2. Centi on the other hand, if she could become Noah 2.0 the game would change greatly.

[swift mango]

bring Noise, Rapu to heal

let see how your off burst SW+Blanc beat that

[azure star]

i just want more moran

[rustic sandal]

That did not last long.

[north brook]

Tbh we can cope b1s but theres really just a big dropoff in team strategy for third team and beyond since label has ruined scar

Think really just need to see what the new fi do, could easily be like bays which barely changes her kit or polis which was outclassed in a few months

Since moran centi already meta even not getting a ton would be okish, and id expect them to mainly give privs kit more numbers since thats most of what it needs

Guess just need to hope the new treasures can make team 3 feel competent again

[tropic summit]

keep in mind treasure can also alter how they work (e.g. re-enter) and actually risk making them worse for PvP, although i expect SU to not do such a dumb move like they did with viperT

[north brook]

Ya they changed her kit design, tbh it wouldnt make sense on these units tho

But its not as if viper was actually good or even off meta before

Pvp wise

[spark granite]

After yesterdays adventure, they changed their last 2 teams up. How would I go about this? I’m pretty sure that I can beat their first team

[north brook]

With the early treasures they tried to cook and the only kit that worked was laplace which was just fixing the kit and adding numbers

[tropic summit]

your problem here is CP, T1 wins, T2 and T3 you gonna need to find a meta + CP but they're both pretty strict on requirements

show CP with this for starters

rosanna needs to be 7/10/10 SR5 20-40atk%

[spark granite]

Oh I already beat it

But Tyty!

Want the vid?

[tropic summit]

your T3 won? pretty nice

[tropic summit]

no it's fine i assumed you'd lose to indom but if you won it means their SGs didn't dig through cindy in time

[spark granite]

She almost died

[tropic summit]

clutch

[spark granite]

It was clutch to watch

YA

[tropic summit]

good stuff, nice job

[deft pelican]

need some help attacking this person heres my blabla https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtNjkyNjgwODYzODgyMDQxOTAzOQ%3D%3D&openid=MjkwODAtNjkyNjgwODYzODgyMDQxOTAzOQ%3D%3D

[tropic summit]

run these teams, you're on the left

[deft pelican]

Okay will try thank you 😄

[deft pelican]

Oh is there by any chance a replacement for mana in team 3 im running low on skill mats i dont have her invested 😓

[tropic summit]

i'm sorry i mistyped, it's left

enemy teams on the right

[deft pelican]

haha okay no problem i was confused for mirror comps XD

[tropic summit]

before running ensure T1 has 1173k or more CP, T3 has 1076k or more CP

so that you're not in deficit

[tropic summit]

yeah you got plenty here, looks good

[deft pelican]

THANK YOU

[deft pelican]

Wouldn't be bothered by them if i just pushed 601 but i'm gonna wait for new story

[tropic summit]

ye it's almost time, just a few weeks away probably

[deft pelican]

[rustic sandal]

Ah shit. Mirror match.

[rustic sandal]

OH MY GOD ANOTHER PVP UNIT. I'M SO SICK OF THIS.

[raven plover]

is she tho

[rustic sandal]

She looks like one. Steals enemy ammo?

[raven plover]

yea but 5%

[rustic sandal]

Also buffs others.

Meh. Skip?

[quick lake]

Velvet looks kinda pvp

what is this ammo stealing

[hollow lagoon]

5% on enter battle, another 5% enter b2, could mess up some lower ammo vesti’s indom

[quick lake]

Probably only affects AR MG SMG

SR RL ammo might be rounded to 0%

[hollow lagoon]

Depends if it force removal or not

Like if sr/rl just get -1

[rustic sandal]

Can Label win this?

[hollow lagoon]

She prob could

[rustic sandal]

Hell yeah.

[hollow lagoon]

Try it? What u got to lose? 100gems for knowledge is always worth

What’s with you and this spicy Nayuta thing

[rustic sandal]

Me?

[hollow lagoon]

Nayuta vs Nayuta too spicy

[rustic sandal]

Oh yeah. I've had a lot of those. Go band for band with her.

[hollow lagoon]

Looks like ur lib managed to burst

And yeeted enemy team

[rustic sandal]

Are their's faster?

[hollow lagoon]

Both of you should be similar speed

If anything they are slower

[rustic sandal]

Oh yeah, I'm getting that Tempering cube soon. I heard it's good for PvP.

I'm just too lazy to clear the sector.

Should at least guarantee a Top 10. All without spending gems.

[hollow lagoon]

Assuming they have charge speed

[rustic sandal]

Assume they don't have OL.

[rustic sandal]

Yeah exactly. I don't think they do.

[rustic sandal]

Label S7 btw.

[hollow lagoon]

Same difference still 2 rl

[rustic sandal]

Cooool.

[hollow lagoon]

With label u do feed them

To 2 RL

[rustic sandal]

Thinking how to beat SIRI

[quick lake]

cinderellaT?

[hollow lagoon]

Stun their Nayuta with siren so they can’t b2

[hollow lagoon]

She pertty weak now time for a buff ye

[rustic sandal]

Sure.

[quick lake]

Idol Anis electric?

[hollow lagoon]

SU bring pilgrim treasures don’t listen to plebeians who can’t mlb units

[rustic sandal]

Lemme find my Siren first.

[gaunt pulsar]

probably SR electric with iron and true dmg, even better ein

[hollow lagoon]

Ein is pertty bad

[quick lake]

This sounds great. Electric and iron savior

[hollow lagoon]

Iron is pertty stacked

it does not neeed saving

Has strong off burst units and multiple strong output b3s

And have endless amount of supports if u wanna neutral and just qte

[quick lake]

Only Rapi, then Bmilk and Raven

[rustic sandal]

Looking at it now, this season would've been the best way for me to get to CA.

I am in Ch5 territory with no one contesting.

But I'm in 9th place based on points.

[hollow lagoon]

That’s like 1 more than most other elementa

[rustic sandal]

Eh. I'm not gonna win CA anyway. My box is shit.

[quick lake]

Maybe

[rustic sandal]

"Hey man. Here's a 6 RL team for P5, goodluck!" Face ass.

[hollow lagoon]

In case of core boss there’s redhood

Iron does not need saving Lel

[rustic sandal]

Iron doesn't have a lot of DPS units though.

[quick lake]

Iron mains have been complaining, idk

[hollow lagoon]

Your iron don’t have a lot of dps

[rustic sandal]

Can we do a headcount. How many Iron DPS do we have?

[hollow lagoon]

Bmilk rapi Raven Eve Laplace T Redhood Crown on chime

[rustic sandal]

RH
RRH
Raven
Maxwell
Snow White
BMilk
Eve

[hollow lagoon]

Now count me the amount of electric dps

[quick lake]

Below, RRH all mid

[hollow lagoon]

Wouldent say Raven is mid

[quick lake]

Arcana Isabel
SAnis

[rustic sandal]

Arcana + Isabel
Ein
Cinderella
SAnis
Scarlet ( Outdated lmao get outclassed )
Ada

[hollow lagoon]

U count Ein u poor misguided soul

[quick lake]

Trina Scar is like team 5 eletric SR i think

[hollow lagoon]

Ein is gimmick her actual output is lame

[quick lake]

electric and iron needs saving

[rustic sandal]

Hey man. Doesn't have to be really good. Any good Elec DPS that are used in raids.

Now let's count Fire.

[hollow lagoon]

lol

rapi xdiesel drake Alice vesti Mihara

[rustic sandal]

RRH
Alice
MBC
2B
Asuka
xDiesel
VestiTU
Drake
Modernia

[quick lake]

xdiesel and Mihara really solid options

asuka 😮

was asuka even used last fire raid

[hollow lagoon]

U ain’t catching me investing Asuka

Or 2b

[rustic sandal]

Idk maaaaan. I saw her in Alteisen Raid last month.

[quick lake]

Rei has more use that Asuka iirc

Cant believe water is no longer the unwanted element

[hollow lagoon]

Where’s Modernia

[rustic sandal]

As long as their DPS okay, they don't have to be good.

[north brook]

They dont give bosses core almost 70% of time now

[rustic sandal]

I forgor

[quick lake]

yeah true

[hollow lagoon]

I used Modernia last raid

[rustic sandal]

And for Wind...

[quick lake]

wind has alot

[hollow lagoon]

Wind is my least scared element

After water

[quick lake]

everyone’s fav ele

[hollow lagoon]

SU can literally make me do 6 teams for water and I would say sure

Maybe 7

[rustic sandal]

Is SSakura good?

[hollow lagoon]

SSakura need parts

I didn’t invest

It’s like you got mlb SSakura and core 7 mana pick a side…. Well yeh

[north brook]

Ssakura was alright on release, mainly for kraken

Just dated now

[hollow lagoon]

Still great (on a date)

[rustic sandal]

Support units though... Iron and Water has a lot.

[hollow lagoon]

Support units tho wind has Friggen Nayuta

[north brook]

Since she was a good unit to build before mana and all the other winds came out, if u built her shes still good wind sr filler

[hollow lagoon]

Also Blanc noir SRosa volume dolla

I end up didn’t have slot for SSakura for wind raid

[north brook]

My mana still not rlly built at all so used her

[rustic sandal]

Is one 10/10/10 unit per month possible?

[hollow lagoon]

My mana is pertty badly rolled

Well no I count her as great, in my box anything 2 ele 2 atk is pertty great

[rustic sandal]

With OC25 and daily sim room.

[north brook]

U could but if ur newer like under 6mo prob focus 7/7/7 core units

[rustic sandal]

Assuming there's at least 1 FBW per month.

[rustic sandal]

I did the Drake thing and got a lot of skill mats.

I put all of them on my core campaign units

[north brook]

Normally 10/10/10 big units and 7/7/7 most rest

[rustic sandal]

I made minimum investments on some raid units.

[hollow lagoon]

Feels like

[north brook]

We need another drake event fr

[hollow lagoon]

Velvet is kinda mid?

[north brook]

Ya she seems alright

[hollow lagoon]

Need path fo hero for Laplace T kekekekekkekeke

[rich ledge]

Velvet can disrupt the 24 ammo vesti

[hollow lagoon]

Well too bad I have 25 ammo vesti

[north brook]

Its a gimmick unless it really messes some unit so badly that it wins a pvp match but i doubt that

[hollow lagoon]

Problem is the cost of slotting her to begin with

[rich ledge]

I think the 30-32 ammo scarlet also will be disrupted

[hollow lagoon]

32no

[rustic sandal]

Drake is S3 right? Did they make ones for S2 and S1 too?

[hollow lagoon]

31 would still be 27-28 would still dodge

[hollow lagoon]

Alice and diesel ones

[rich ledge]

27-28 would lose an attack stack

[hollow lagoon]

If u mean by the resource events

That’s not important

It’s just an attack stack

Worse if I fail to dodge stun

[rustic sandal]

So they're technically...

But no, talking about..

Treasure events.

[hollow lagoon]

The only treasure event is Drake

[rustic sandal]

Because Drake gave treasure mats along with skill mats.

[hollow lagoon]

I too could use me some treasure mats

But I think I have no issue reaching phase 1 for 1 unit

My problem is lack of dollllll mats

@north brook I don’t think velvet on offburst have enough value to kick Mmast out of Union raid wind comp~ 25% caster atk and 100% charge damage seems low value

But if she’s on burst , can she even still grant the buffs?

[swift mango]

what am I gonna do? 5% of my Vesti ammo got stolen!!! Now I'm 1 ammo short!

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/big-pile-shit

easy skip let's go 🍿

[worn ridge]

Is she bad ?

[swift mango]

She would take 2 out of my scarlet 32 ammo too! Now she is 0 stack less!!!

[hollow lagoon]

It’s 2, if the enemy enter burst 2

[hollow lagoon]

She’s good (in bed)

[tropic summit]

imagine how different her impact in pvp would've been if she stole 95% of enemy ammo instead

[swift mango]

10%?
darn, my scarlet would 1 stack less fr.

23% atk lost

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

we were so close to break arena, good thing intern kun mistyped 95% into 5%

[rustic sandal]

This is all I have currently after I R15 to SR15 Crown.

I used...

90 Blue, 10 Purple to R15 her

Then I used...

50 Blue, 40 Purple to SR6, then I used 10 Gold, super success to SR10, then I used 10 Gold, another super success to SR15.

[hollow lagoon]

Looks like ur not making another sr15 for a while

[gaunt pulsar]

why steal, make it reduced instead 1 ammo enemy sanis from the start of the battle

[rustic sandal]

Who knows?
I remember getting SR 15 using only 20 purple and 10 blue.

20 purple to SR5-10, then 10 blue to SR10-15.

[swift mango]

[rustic sandal]

It's all about luck. Something I take for granted till it graced itself.

[hollow lagoon]

Nah man, the real gold would be, if she steal Eunhwa Tu’s 1 ammo when she activates her burst

[rustic sandal]

Someone can technically SR 1-15 using only 30 Blue Kits.

That would be a spectacle.

[wind kelp]

Questian...better to have no ol gear unit in team, than to not have them in team replaced with a unit with 4xOL? Let's say, Anis. If i have her at 4 skills, and level 3 gear, so barely started, would it still be better to run her at p4 than some non-team-fitting unit at higher gear/skills?

Or in shorter terms; does a pvp unit need ol gear to work, depending on team? 😄

[rustic sandal]

I should start doing this to get the cube.

[hollow lagoon]

Ol ur stuff

[rustic sandal]

nvm...

[tropic summit]

pvp units all need 4/4/4 4OL R15-SR5 minimun, because of CP for the most part

[swift mango]

Not doing this asap is one of the reason to level brick

[gaunt pulsar]

it's cool when there units with such upsides/downsides, could make for an interesting scenarios, but not in her current state with 5%-10% ammo steal

[rustic sandal]

It's bad?

[tropic summit]

@wind kelp as for anis in particular, you will bench her at some point so don't overinvest in her

[wind kelp]

Ok, so you can't toss in a rando unit just for the debuff, or buff, or such. Got it, not quite like pve in that sense.

[hollow lagoon]

still good (in bed)

[wind kelp]

Oh i do think Anis is way past building already 😄

[tropic summit]

if CP allows you can, but generally it shouldn't, based on your opponents anyway

[swift mango]

not that bad but the early level you could gain from doing it could translate to more level in the end

[hollow lagoon]

U still build sanis for raid

[wind kelp]

Ok, so; OL all, 4/4/4, UNLESS situation really works, but very rarely does. Got it 😄

[rustic sandal]

Oh yeah. Cuz Core Dust rewards.

[wind kelp]

And OL0 and OL3 difference is, minimal i assume. I've just never looked into all the gear metas stuff 😄

[hollow lagoon]

My Centi is 6/6/6 now

[tropic summit]

utilities yes, main B3 or core pvp units have specific skill invest instead

like noise, noah, jackal, trina, biscuit etc

[hollow lagoon]

More like the need to get to cheese cube

[swift mango]

mine is 777 since forever

[rustic sandal]

Okay who tf keeps one shotting my units?

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

this man @swift mango

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

he's a booly

[wind kelp]

I think my Centi is 4xOl5 with 10/10/10 XD

[swift mango]

[rustic sandal]

I hate being forced to play landscape.

[hollow lagoon]

U play on phone?

[rustic sandal]

Ye

[hollow lagoon]

I used to play on phone

Now daily on phone

[wind kelp]

Ah no, centi is OL 4/4/5/5 with 8/9/9 stats, totally reasonable ahem

[hollow lagoon]

@swift mango does this mean I’m wet?

[rustic sandal]

There we go. Frickin blindsided by a hiding Rapture.

[hollow lagoon]

Imma gonna preach the red cube but don’t listen to me

[swift mango]

or dry

[rustic sandal]

This floor is lava gimmick gotta be the laziest way to make a puzzle.

[hollow lagoon]

Idk I find the puzzles entertaining

[wind kelp]

Just wait 😄

[swift mango]

[wind kelp]

No spoilers, and i do like the puzzles, but there's some that are....let's say..."designer was sick" 😄

Anyway, i did have an actual build thing if folks want to consider it. I can do it myself too, plenty of things to do, buuut...these def teams held all round in spa, wondering waht two other teams could work along side them when i go to Leauge.

[hollow lagoon]

Noah Blanc p1p2 no protection

[swift mango]

40% deficit is the best protection there is

[hollow lagoon]

Vesti p1 perfect for siren

[tropic summit]

before looking at noah and blanc, look at the burst speed of that team

[swift mango]

it's slow cindy

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

Switch Moran for rosana and they can make it to burst1 prob

[tropic summit]

original take on absolute comp at least, that one gets credit

[rustic sandal]

It's nice. I actually had to think how to do this one.

[wind kelp]

Hey, if it held all of january, it held all of january. I did ask for other teams to go with those, even if i know you old sourcandies like to critique everything XD

[hollow lagoon]

No Emma tho, cant activate buffs

[tropic summit]

yes we're petty little sh*ts, especially zant and blood

[glad meteor]

How

[rustic sandal]

I remember soft locking myself in one of these Lost Sectors and have to reset the map.

[wind kelp]

Oh i know, i know 😄

[swift mango]

when will treasure kit drop?

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/yell-gopher-5yZ

[rustic sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/ina-ninomae-inanis-inanis-tomorrow-day-gif-25547129

[hollow lagoon]

I’m here to unenlighten people you keep doing the good fight

[wind kelp]

So what i'm hearing is; "just go with anything, league is random, come up with weird cooks"

[hollow lagoon]

Will u pull velvet to warm the bed for this cold winter?

[hollow lagoon]

Shiet @tropic summit he’s cursed already

[swift mango]

I'm broke and with skip

[glad meteor]

[hollow lagoon]

[rustic sandal]

Me ready to load up with 5 B3 Top DPS unit just to gap that one guy who has uninvested meta PvP team.

[hollow lagoon]

Yeah she does look skip

[glad meteor]

Velvet bad

[tropic summit]

to realistically answer ur question

[hollow lagoon]

Unless they cook the kit more, cuz it seems it’s deleted

[tropic summit]

the same logic applies in CA, try to get teams that match those conditions

[tropic summit]

easy skip, blood can finally heal from being broke

for at least 15 days

[glad meteor]

They skimped out on maid event

[wind kelp]

Got it, a nicely done base base policy there 😄

[hollow lagoon]

Blood is Broken (in bed)

[tropic summit]

he sold his bed

[glad meteor]

Something is coming. Something big

[glad meteor]

Who need frame. Just need mattress

[hollow lagoon]

There’s a Chinese saying, make the earth your bed

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/arata-le-lew

[glad meteor]

It’s early rail-san

[tropic summit]

it's never too early

[hollow lagoon]

Realistically speaking I see Privity stun double not 15 sec

[tropic summit]

fine i'll settle with 14

[hollow lagoon]

12 and deal

[tropic summit]

[wind kelp]

So i'll just run, for fun, 5 teams in league, that are all built with the pattern:
2rl
tank p1
Heal p4
Big boomy damage unit
Backup b2(or b1)
Like, straight up cookie cutter teams 😄

[tropic summit]

imagine spending your 10s of indom stunned

[glad meteor]

Ein says hi

[hollow lagoon]

I propose alternately keep her stun the same but gib 1 sec on entering battle

[swift mango]

I could use label to

• counter Rosa SG in Jackal indom team (99.9% counter)
• or counter Scarlet in slow teams (100% counter)
  What to use.

[tropic summit]

@hollow lagoon who's gonna tell him

[hollow lagoon]

Idk?

[glad meteor]

[hollow lagoon]

Ain’t me I used my label for the slow team

[tropic summit]

a fine point

[hollow lagoon]

Velvet kit is reposted, it’s the same

Bed warmer tier

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

Secondary Hoe tier

[swift mango]

I said 99.9% but I actually couldn't think of a scenario for the 0.1% aside from deficit lol

[hollow lagoon]

She prob won’t mind

[tropic summit]

just put hime and velvet in a room, done

[rustic sandal]

I don't mind that.

I'm looking forward to Maiduo rerun.

[tropic summit]

wow this must be from some 18+ gam- oh nvm it's pg13 nikke

[rustic sandal]

12*

[swift mango]

Pop quiz: Who won?

[rustic sandal]

Wait that may not be allowed. I'm removing that.

[tropic summit]

MF that's a label against single buff scarlet on 2RL

[hollow lagoon]

Vesti?

[rustic sandal]

Based on the damage numbers rolled on the screen, Noah probably didn't burst, but the scarlet burst activated right after Blanc...

You lost?

[swift mango]

I won ofc

[tropic summit]

noway scarlet is lethal on single buff against a label against linked units

[rustic sandal]

Okay cool

[tropic summit]

blood such a troll

[rustic sandal]

Scared there for a second.

[hollow lagoon]

Why scared

[rustic sandal]

I like doing quick battles and just leaving matchups on a coin flip.

I don't wanna watch my girls getting recycled into toasters.

[wind kelp]

Poli scarlett team, thoughts? Silly enough?

[hollow lagoon]

Lots of investment

For bad output

[glad meteor]

B2 ady went off too

[wind kelp]

My current poli, t3, 9/9/9 😄

[tranquil musk]

since velvet steals enemy ammo that'd be p good for PVP right?

[tropic summit]

scarlet poli liter, let's go back to 2024

[hollow lagoon]

Hard to say, problem is hard to slot her to begin with

[wind kelp]

Assuming jackal in there, and biscuit?

[tranquil musk]

bc she has stuff that only works when no full burst or bc the rest of her kit?

[wind kelp]

Ah i'll just see when League opens, build some weird stuff, and then drop it here 😄

[tropic summit]

copy pasta as many as u can

rest run 2.5RL or 2RL teams with something lethal, indom or stall

[gaunt pulsar]

https://youtu.be/xag9MR96qlU boredom, but funny that it works

[wind kelp]

Thankies, i think i got all built at "pvp status" except ada, viper, and soda 😄

[hollow lagoon]

Spicy af

[tropic summit]

4D chess

[swift mango]

Label is linked over my 41% AtK Vesti now... But not my 40% AtK Scarlet. Maybe I would need 1 more AtK line.

Or not

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/the-office-pam-beesly-90

[raven plover]

is this jack first or label first in the formation

the interaction with jack link is so dumb wtf

[tropic summit]

the real question is how you got label linked over vesti

[raven plover]

good thing nepnep use ros on rookie so I can test out label

[swift mango]

Jackal would linked only if She is behind Label ofc

"start of battle" Skill counting from left to right

[raven plover]

yea infront its a headache 😭

time to c7 label

[swift mango]

That helps counter SG though. Rosa can't unlink my Emi

[raven plover]

yea its good

[swift mango]

Problem with Label is still SG shooting from the back and kill p4 even with Label p5.

Biscuit+2 defender+2 attacker doesn't have the slot to protect against p4 assassin.

If less than 2 attackers, label doesn't protect the lone attacker from rosa

[ancient sun]

https://tenor.com/view/derek-carley-tcb-tin-can-bros-flop-stoppers-perfect-gif-21525171

[swift mango]

So actually you would needs no biscuit to use label at her full potential... This swing back to either Jackal team or Moran team from the Jpn whale.

But in those teams label can't burst 1 so it's not full potential either.

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-noted-notes-gif-17474838830648097856

Im trying label mana next reset, gonna be expensive tho not worth but Im curious

[swift mango]

My Mana is actually lower ATK than scarlet even with the buff.

[raven plover]

[swift mango]

I have 4-5 teams in mind that work with label but none actually make me like it.

Maybe wait for treasure to know

[hollow lagoon]

Treasure is Feb

The next patch is most def not Feb

[hollow lagoon]

As much as I hope treasured would be next patch

[small gale]

is liberalio useful for arena?

[tropic summit]

for attack yes
for burst gen partially
for defense cope

[rustic sandal]

She's trying her best.

[versed mesa]

I had a Nayuta/Lib/Siren/Centi/T.Helm team early in the first few seasons after last shuffle. Managed to get some results with that, was still before I started reading stuff here and getting better tips.

[runic yacht]

I just noticed there’s a chat for pvp

Can i get a rookie arena team please?

[runic yacht]

Btw do i copy all the teams on atk and paste it on def ?

[hollow lagoon]

Do u attack into label if you use scarlet?

[runic yacht]

wdym

[hollow lagoon]

I mean do u expect us to have a all killing invincible team while on attack and a all defending unbreakable team on defense

Or do u make a decision and adjust ur team to break opponent’s weakness

[runic yacht]

I just full send it

[hollow lagoon]

Then that’s the consequence you choose

And in that case u didn’t need to ask the question

[runic yacht]

So yah copy atk team and paste it on def ?

[hollow lagoon]

Yes please

[swift mango]

I wonder who was the first one to make this team. It's only for CA though. In Arena it would be wiped by 2rl scarlet.

[hollow lagoon]

Would it? It could feed to 2

[swift mango]

Depend 20 feeds won't make it 2rl, let alone 10

[hollow lagoon]

I didn’t even slap quantum

[swift mango]

2rl HelmT is sure win.

[swift mango]

Make it's barely enough to beat 2rl without much CS with 20 feeds from scarlet.

But it's still not 2rl but 2nd SW shot

[runic yacht]

Okay thanks

[hollow lagoon]

Let him take his chances bro

[swift mango]

Even with quantum minimal feed team with RH buffed Helm should still beat it.

[hollow lagoon]

It’s just scarlet, his bracket need to have pulled a non banner searchable pilgrim first then invest Trina

[hollow lagoon]

Ain’t my problem

He wanted a team and I gave him one

Its counterable but so is everything

You told me nothing

[runic yacht]

can someone help me complete the third team please

[swift mango]

You need like 92.5% at 2rl and p1+2 linked to be kinda sure it's 2rl team.

But SW 2nd shot should be enough to burst with some feeds and still catch some 2rl teams.

[runic yacht]

That’s the other two

[swift mango]

Add Drake/Xmaiden

[hollow lagoon]

Xmaiden buff scarlet, Tis the superior choice

[swift mango]

RH p4-5 in this team. So you burst with Helm/XMaiden if Scarlet ded

Ofc pointless if they just 2rl Bay/Noah/Blanc it.

[runic yacht]

I don’t think i have Xmaiden

[swift mango]

Drake/Noir/SRAnis

[runic yacht]

SRAnis ?

[swift mango]

Actually team 1+2 burst gen is overkilled

[hollow lagoon]

What if back up aoe

[runic yacht]

I just copied it from a guy in #questions message

[swift mango]

Could just move Centi to Scarlet team and flex anything to Centi position

[runic yacht]

Can u give me better ones?

[swift mango]

[hollow lagoon]

Scarlet on def in 2026

[runic yacht]

It’s kinda a old pictures so some of the nikke got more stars

[swift mango]

My Scarlet is on def, no one attack me yet. Scarlet is on YOUR def as well

CP is king

[hollow lagoon]

Is scarlet on my def?

Shit I been caught redhanded

[swift mango]

Your Rookie team.

[versed mesa]

I have Scarlet on my defense. My bracket is ass so it actually holds a lot of the time

I feel like there is only like 1 or 2 players who actually know how to counter

[runic yacht]

No ? @swift mango

[hollow lagoon]

They have the CP to take this they don’t

[swift mango]

Too lazy for it. Ask @hollow lagoon

[swift mango]

They don't

[runic yacht]

I don’t think he likes me

[hollow lagoon]

I accept bribes

[runic yacht]

We don’t do that

[hollow lagoon]

He don’t wanna send me cat pictures, so it is, the consequence of your choice

[runic yacht]

That’s just a flex at this point

[swift mango]

Tbh, just add Drake to the empty slot and hope the best

[hollow lagoon]

It would gib nuff feed

[swift mango]

Then move Centi to the empty slot and add Drake to Centi slot

[hollow lagoon]

Man these guys level fast, they were not even 400 couple weeks ago

Or were they?

[swift mango]

Eh, I could barely beat you on AtK if you come to my bracket and I started like 9 months before u

[runic yacht]

What’s better ?

[hollow lagoon]

But I can’t beat @gritty ridge So u ain’t saying much

[hollow lagoon]

Better start investing Moran

[swift mango]

The Moving Centi option

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/meet-the-fockers-nipples-milk-me-greg-robert-deniro-gif-14876822

[hollow lagoon]

I wood milk velvet

[swift mango]

And if Vesti isn't linked anymore, move HelmT to p2 instead

[hollow lagoon]

I can’t even accidentally OL my Xsoline with attack rolls

[swift mango]

Oh wait, move Vesti into team Noah instead of libby
Burst with SW in team Blanc

[versed mesa]

If one of my opponents wasn't a gemmer, I could have probably sat in C1 or C2 whole season

[hollow lagoon]

I used to gem sp arena before I figure out u were supposed to make gem from it

Then again I prefer the arena ticket token thing more anyway

[swift mango]

You don't need it's gem

[hollow lagoon]

Not that I should gem for it until next reset bring me the sync 641+

Then I’m doomed for all time

[swift mango]

Now find a synch 701 whale into your bracket so you could gem

[hollow lagoon]

[versed mesa]

I played this game for like 1.5 years before I realised where those random gems were coming from every 2 weeks And when I started actually climbing, I realised that 80% of my bracket were sooo bad. Probably lost tens of thousands of gems I could have been getting.

[hollow lagoon]

This guy is only 3 months older than me and way higher sync

I though I was a big whale

Oh wait

U mean ur moment of enlightenment is at 1.5 year

[versed mesa]

I was just focused on the T and A, and I just thought "meh PvP in these games is all whales, no reason to care."

[hollow lagoon]

Full pad vs no pad

[versed mesa]

Mine is 8M and 7.84M

[swift mango]

that's normal for day one player that's not bricked

but there's rarely any day one players that's not bricked

[versed mesa]

Yeh

[swift mango]

are you 701 ish or more? if more then it's not f2p possible though

[fathom rock]

What typa wack stall is that

[versed mesa]

683

[swift mango]

but would you lose?

[fathom rock]

Ez clear

[versed mesa]

I'm not f2p though, but I never buy anything except mission or event passes with a skin I like and even those sting for the price. All the other things are not worth the price at all imo

[floral kiln]

Thankfully friends told me about pvp gems I'm my first few months I just had to build characters or at least OL them

[swift mango]

I would like to do champ record like this start next CA if possible.

This provides better visuals for reference. Than just 5 teams.

Yeah, I could auto crop now on phone so I had easier time editing record. Saved me like 1+ minute per guy.

[keen vapor]

Not true

"This won 3 battles" against what

[swift mango]

At least we know it only won 3 instead of 5

So the match was close

Close win instead landslide win

And we could see the name of the loser runner up

And it's only 1 extra screenshot not 6

Most importantly it doesn't take me anymore time than just doing the 5 teams now.

Since I still have to crop a second time for the name.

I could try to experiment with 11 screenshot for my bracket alone. Since it would take more time from others when I ask. Screenshot more and upload more

[umbral belfry]

I agree✂️

[swift mango]

But Zan is also in that room.

[umbral belfry]

I'm taking his rocks and then kicking him out

[swift mango]

Okay @hollow lagoon prepare the rocks.

[glad meteor]

[hollow lagoon]

wot

what slander is this

i'm pro velvet

but i wish @umbral belfry was blue again

[umbral belfry]

no

[hollow lagoon]

why u no love arcana no more

[swift mango]

There can be only one green in this room

[umbral belfry]

I still love her but velvet is

[glad meteor]

[umbral belfry]

hush k

[shell hazel]

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/azur-lane-laffey-sleepy-gif-20102457

[swift mango]

Can you send your bracket champ btw? You could do 11 screenshots if you wanted.

I would merge them all for u

[covert lintel]

Could 20% def line on SWHA be enough to tank rosanna 40% atk?

[quick lake]

doubt

def line very bad

maybe reduce incoming dmg by like 1-2%

[runic yacht]

Just that ?

[worn ridge]

Why soline ?is she that useful for pvp?

[runic yacht]

So is it done now ? @swift mango

[runic coral]

how to beat this comp in rookie? siren just refuses to stun noah in time

[worn ridge]

Try using vesti if stun doesn't work

[runic coral]

snow white indom did the job

[swift mango]

Counter sg and pair with Rapu.

[swift mango]

Replace Noah with Blanc and move SW p3

[swift mango]

Non-linked Rosa needs lots of Ele or other units to help kill SW without Crit. But you could try Moran to help.

[swift mango]

Only partly. Namely to stop SG from killing anyone before burst. But They could still die and sacc themselves and Rosa could still Crit Scarlet from full HP.

So it's most effective in Indom Jackal team. To mostly keep the team from misindom.

[swift mango]

Centi move and fill team 3 first

[swift mango]

So if they barely killed you before now you survive with 1%

https://tenor.com/view/azur-lane-laffey-sleep-so-asleep-good-night-see-you-later-gif-19553926

[tropic summit]

[umbral crown]

[glad meteor]

i saw wot u did

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/una-otomachi-lamaze-p-una-otomachi-vocaloid-gif-24419071

[umbral crown]

Did you

[swift mango]

Could do this if you willing to send and wanted it made

[tropic summit]

what have you done

[runic yacht]

It’s filled u told me to put Drake
And where do i move centi

[swift mango]

@tropic summit to make team for you. He's here. I

[runic yacht]

I don’t think he likes me either

[umbral crown]

Nothing, trust me bro

[glad meteor]

Its gone?

[runic yacht]

Guys do we move anyone?

[glad meteor]

Preferably burst with sw instead, but you may need vigor cube on liberalio to ensure sw receieves indom ability from blanc burst

[runic yacht]

SW ?

[glad meteor]

Snow white

[runic yacht]

Oh

So just that ?

[glad meteor]

ya

Looks fine apart from that

[runic yacht]

Okay thanks

[frozen locust]

Any recommendations for beating the opponents P1 team? TVesti is just barely unable to take out Moran before Blanc's buff runs out...

[gaunt pulsar]

try red hood instead of siren? i dont think she helps you all that much here, unless red hood ruins your links/indom

[frozen locust]

I did think about that and had sent a run before without thinking of Jackal's links and she did mess it up unfortunately.

[gaunt pulsar]

if she lowest hp and in the link it's an easy fix with vigor cube usually

[frozen locust]

She has less ATK than THelm and RH, even if I give RH no cube and TVesti my highest stat cube. Might just have to level up her gear more to have her get linked while also having RH on the team.

[gaunt pulsar]

ah, ic, well you essentially could use any b1 you like, should still be 2rl if your vesti has at least 5%cs, might try rosa to take out enemy SW/lap before noah applies, without her should have more units survive, but need strong rosa for that, liter/miranda for atk% buff i guess could work if you lacking dmg too, siren placed in p2 against their noah, but there a chance they are siren stun resistant with enough cs%

[frozen locust]

Thank you! I'll try the different B1 route first and then the other options

[gaunt pulsar]

there might be different approaches to that team, I dont think your approach is wrong though but to cook different ones I would at least need to see what is happening there and test out things

ideally something like this, just shower them and done, but might not work if team is fast, or if libe is weak*

also you use her for t2, right, missed that

[frozen locust]

Changing Siren for TMiranda worked! Thank you for the advice!!

[tropic summit]

@hollow lagoon 🍿

[frozen locust]

Out of curiosity I'll try that Lib/Siren team next time I go up against them

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-kitten-kiss-gif-6588078957197429086

[gaunt pulsar]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G-rW8TFaIAA8zpZ.gif

[hollow lagoon]

Here’s @umbral belfry

[tropic summit]

real life hime in some universe

[hollow lagoon]

not dis universe

[tropic summit]

[forest zodiac]

any stupidity going on my side?

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor

[forest zodiac]

kinda scared that I'm stunning jackal and that would hurt me in the end - not killing anyone and he would just get blanc burst later than me

I think t2 and t3 wins, but dunno if there any randomness to them

maybe I just should put rosanna as whatever b1 on t1 instead of siren

[tropic summit]

enemy T2 and T3 are very punishable

what you already arranged wins, although you're overcommited against enemy scarlet, you don't need 2RL, can run 2.5RL

also your stun in T1 won't do a thing, they're 2RL

it will mitigate their indom

siren will still die once SWHA gets nukin'

[gaunt pulsar]

they are close to 1 with his approach lol

dont mind maiden cs*

[tropic summit]

the slower indom approach although is correct

still a SG against a jackal is probably not the best idea

you can hit 2.5RL via SWHA, no need to bring SG

[tropic summit]

ye with feed this team can easily get to 1.5RL

they're sitting on 133% to 2RL

[forest zodiac]

uhm

well all clip rl are busy

who do I put instead of sg

[tropic summit]

bro didn't read what i said

[gaunt pulsar]

it might be bad to make them so fast actually now that i think about it they gonna b3 mid 2nd swha shot before he even applies indom, and he gonna be under blanc and catching partially buffed swha shots

[tropic summit]

@forest zodiac

you can save on a clip RL from your anti scarlet team and move it in your other team to avoid feeding enemy into 1.5RL

this is assuming you want to triple win anyway, 2 wins is good enough if you don't wanna spend more brain on it

[forest zodiac]

well then who do I replace rumani then

[tropic summit]

why ask me, do your work

you already cooked 2 good teams, you can make a 3rd, we gave you hints

[forest zodiac]

if I put RL like bay its 3

i'm not sure about clip sg again

and this is scarlet

which is probably bad to put sg against scarlet?

[tropic summit]

aye correct

no SGs against scarlet, in most use cases

[forest zodiac]

hm

vestitu fits

just for generation

bad?

[tropic summit]

there's a better solution, keep thinkin'

although as i said before, aim for 2 wins, no need to bother yourself spending more time than needed on it

you're getting closer although with using vestiTU

hint (don't open if you wanna keep trying)

[forest zodiac]

uh, I wasn't think about changing cindy as main burster in t2 tbh at all

also completely forgot about rapunzel existance can't even tell if I even used her once tbh

[tropic summit]

it's glass cannon scarlet and you're behind a shield, you can spit on them and they'll fall before noah biscuit's stack expires

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

when running jackaless-biscuitless indoms, you want an heal/revive on p1 to ensure she doesn't die

[glad meteor]

Accidental ping

[forest zodiac]

oof, my rapu is so neglected she is even unsynched

[tropic summit]

well it doesn't need to be rapu specifically, any mag RL b1 will do, rapu although ensures your p1 lives or revives

noise can fit too

or any flex b1 that does not feed (SR/RL)

bench siren aswell for something else as she also feeds

all you need is to ensure 2.5RL indom in there

[forest zodiac]

thanks, you're machine at this

I put bade in t1 instead of siren

[keen patio]

How many frames does it take for blanc's heal/indom to take effect?
I notice it's possible to defeat an indom team if I kill the indom target right after blanc bursts

[wind kelp]

Easy; Noah, Bay, HelmT, Siren, Jackal. Then ofcourse the super special edition cubes that give immunity for 15 seconds, and +75% attack.

[hollow lagoon]

[wind kelp]

And now i can already hear the gears turning with "some" folks here going "I can crack this, easy".

[gaunt pulsar]

6, most stuff on 6 frames, some exceptions exist but usually it's 6f or 0.1s

[keen patio]

Thanks, it'll help me cook some janky builds

[keen patio]

By the way, do you know if Vesti's burst is instant, or is there a slight delay to it

[gaunt pulsar]

should be, visual effect is just extremely slow, need to check a few videos though to make sure, but seems like same 6f. Instant technically doesn't exist, lowest you can have is 6f, which is scarlet/thelm for example

it's either 6 or 8 for tvesti~~

[keen patio]

Thanks, that makes sense!
I was looking at why my Vesti was able to kill an indom target with her burst, despite her bursting at 212f vs blanc's burst at 222f

[gaunt pulsar]

if you checking nikke top for frames, that would 6f after b3 dot on the graph, nikke top shows button press for b1 b2 b3 timing, not when actual effect happens

if we would talk about libe for example that would be whenever b3 happen + 60f on top

[keen patio]

I have noticed that libe's burst is a bit slow in practice
I've been avoiding using her as a b3

[gaunt pulsar]

easy to see on recordings usually, blanc effect applies as soon as either they get buff icon or it can be tracked by heal effect, if green numbers appeared then indom happened, and if you recording in 60fps you can pretty much match nikke top data with your own video in various ways

[keen patio]

that clears it up
It lines up fairly accurately between nikke top and a recording I have when I take into account the small 6f-8f delay before damage applies

[gaunt pulsar]

ammo count is a good indicator, if there ar or smg in the team you just multiply ammo they already spent by either 6f for ar or 4 for smg, minus 1 ammo as first shot is frame 0 - and that would be your actual current frame (obviously accounting for extra frames that happen between shots if it didn't happened right on the shot for example), but can just move frame by frame in some video players with indicators

[keen vapor]

..... WAIT, IT'S TRUE

[keen vapor]

Nope, I haven't been attacked

[glad meteor]

[spare nimbus]

Would this work?

[spark granite]

They change up their 2 teams again. Any ideas? I wanna try before reset

[marble saddle]

@tropic summit @swift mango
Going in.
as advised by blood everyone except RRH has vigor cube.

[forest zodiac]

would this work? rapu scares me a bit in this

[glad meteor]

Many snipers

[glad meteor]

Shud be ez win

[forest zodiac]

reset, I have to snipe

[spark granite]

Shuffle happening too

[gaunt pulsar]

sbs is single target unit, she will be stopped by bisc stacked noah alone, and rapu doesn't burst

[gaunt pulsar]

#pvp-arena message

[versed mesa]

Even after all my worrying, seems like I managed to pull ahead in the last few days. The 3k gems are still mine!

[forest zodiac]

this ended up to be too slow?

[glad meteor]

Reorganising

someone snipped in my bracket. But not me

[onyx scaffold]

[spark granite]

I did it

[glad meteor]

What’s that title

[forest zodiac]

ddamn, got counter sniped in last 10 seconds

[gaunt pulsar]

same lol

[versed mesa]

my main rival sniped me into C4 right before the end too as a final stab

[gaunt pulsar]

[onyx scaffold]

fomo bait

[glad meteor]

CN

[spark granite]

Is that CN?

[versed mesa]

[glad meteor]

I didn’t attack in 8 days. C1-4 trading

[spark granite]

Worth

[versed mesa]

If the shuffle doesn't take any of the other 3 out that gave me so much trouble, or subs even worse ones in I'm retiring. Too mentally taxing tryharding for top 3

[arctic jewel]

Opponent: Jackal/Blanc/Vesti/HelmT/Biscuit
My team: Blanc/SWHA/RH/Biscuit/Jackal

I'm not entirely sure why I'm losing

What I know is that SWHA and RH dies before either of them are able to burst

(RH does get her B1 though)

[glad meteor]

Recording video would help.

To see if you lose because enemy burst first.

[rustic sandal]

Hell yeah. 2400.

[glad meteor]

They prob outspeed you

[glad meteor]

[arctic jewel]

Hmmm... whenever I use Noah/Moran/Biscuit/HelmT/Vesti, I do get my shield up

[glad meteor]

Do you have rosanna invested

Or rapu scar trina helmt soline

[arctic jewel]

Currently no, but I'm on it

[glad meteor]

Vesti indom can beat the team though

[arctic jewel]

Yeah I used that team quite a lot, even after my opponent used the vesti indom one, because my Moran just survives everything, now it's basically a gamble

[glad meteor]

You can try jackal blanc ein helmt biscuit

Ein has better fire rate

[arctic jewel]

It's a bit silly, but will Blanc/SWHA/HelmT/Biscuit/Jackal do anything?

[arctic jewel]

I could try Ein

[glad meteor]

Snow and vesti both have bad fire rate. I don’t know who has advantage. You also have more speed and will be faster to land indom which may put you at a disadvantage

[arctic jewel]

So Rosanna seems like the best answer...

[covert lintel]

No more yellow book

[glad meteor]

Pretty much. Kill both of them before indom

[arctic jewel]

Man... why does upgrading Nikkes take sooooo looooong

[glad meteor]

But i use

Rapu scar trina soline helmt against 2rl indom without rosa. Vesti and helm is strong p1 pressure so my rapu always stuns

[arctic jewel]

I still haven't built my Nayuta and Liberalio

[glad meteor]

New player?

[arctic jewel]

Just Shift Up not being nice with resources

Started playing somewhere around Jinx Player

[glad meteor]

I forgot whos event that was

[arctic jewel]

Rouge

[glad meteor]

i skip everything

Before cindy

[arctic jewel]

Yupp, I'm basically not able to properly upgrade OL gear either, I'm basically just forced to get whatever I'm able to, then immediately move on to next Nikke (VERY annoying)

I managed to get a somewhat decent Snow White... and then I learn that my decently built Red Hood is not enough

Oh well, at least it won't get too long time to build Rosanna

I just need 500 crystals and lots of resources to level up gear

Anyway xD

[glad meteor]

Don’t we all

Im saving for collab atm

[arctic jewel]

Smart... as for me... tried to pull Label and now Velvet

I wonder if I should take it easy due to collab and 3.5

[glad meteor]

I skip both

[arctic jewel]

At least you're saving, which isn't bad

Have they confirmed what collab it is yet?

[glad meteor]

Nop

[arctic jewel]

Hopefully it's gonna be great, I'm gonna do my dailies now, thanks for the help

[tranquil minnow]

any tips to beat this in rookie? I am using noah biscuit swha vesti jackal but it doesnt work 100% of the time, I guess cause of rosanna rng

[glad meteor]

Does your drake and vesti have good ele lines

Hmm.

[upbeat dock]

hmm.. what are the discord signin rewards for

[glad meteor]

Is she strong at least.

[rustic sandal]

Small awards you can get in #sign-in-event

[glad meteor]

I was thinking nayuta helmt drake rapu vesti

Kill Noah and win the game

[upbeat dock]

ah damn, no SEA server.. damn, i will never financially recover from this

[rustic sandal]

Click global.

[upbeat dock]

oh, they're just rolled into one

[rustic sandal]

Global connects all servers that aren't CN.

Ye

[noble python]

Guys am I dumb or smth I got Challenger 3 but only got 2700 gems in the mail on reset and I didn’t lose Challenger 3 I even checked after I claimed the mail wasn’t I supposed to get 3,000 gems?

[north brook]

Were u in chal 3 whole time

[noble python]

Yes

[north brook]

Or did u hit chal 3 just before reset

[noble python]

I even kept checking whole time before

[glad meteor]

If c1-4 trade enough. C3 can be pushed out

[upbeat dock]

your rewards are based on your point ranking, not your current ranking

[glad meteor]

[noble python]

And I never lost C3

[north brook]

Ya would depend if in ur bracket then, c1 and c4 traded whole time

[noble python]

What how does that make any sense lmao

[upbeat dock]

if you sat on a low rank the entire season, you were earning less points, just because you claimed rank3 at the last second doesn't mean you had the 3rd most points that season

ranks determine points per hour

[noble python]

C1 didn’t trade with C4

[upbeat dock]

theres 2 leaderboards

[versed mesa]

I won against C3 exclusively by trading with C1 for the past 6 seasons

[oak hatch]

What does the mail say? It tells u ur real ranking for the points leaderboard

[glad meteor]

C1-4 is the easiest way to push c3 out. But not the only one. It’s just a matter of time spent above and below c3 to push c3 out of top 4.

[north brook]

C1 is more points over c3 than c4 is less than c3

[versed mesa]

You only need 105 hours in C1 and you can stay in C4 the whole rest of the season and you will still beat someone who sits in C3 whole season without ever moving

[glad meteor]

Math

[noble python]

Again C4 never beat C1

[north brook]

If ppl above u have bad defenses and trade all the time u would need to get at least c2

[versed mesa]

Can do the same with C2 but takes more hours

I have an entire spreadsheet

[noble python]

C4 never beat C2 either

[glad meteor]

I stayed c2 mostly this season. But because my enemies were trading. I got c1

[north brook]

Like u prob just didnt see them trading

[noble python]

I did I was paying attention to leaderboard always

[versed mesa]

Were you online 24/7? They could have easily fought, swapped places and then swapped back while you were offline

[noble python]

C2 and C1 would have C4 CP gapped on every team bro there’s no way

[north brook]

Tbh c3 only rlly safe if u have a whale in c1

[upbeat dock]

Then it must just be… skill issue 😆

[covert lintel]

Just take out noah you'll win
This is example team

[upbeat dock]

reshuffle time, hopefully not too many tryhards

[north brook]

Tbh my bracket can only get worse

I had chill c1 this shuffle

[upbeat dock]

my number 1 pvp rival quit nikke for arknights so my season was easy this time

we'll see what the shuffle does

[glad meteor]

It will get worse indeed

[oak hatch]

U lose out on c3 points each hour if someone hits u out of c3 within the span of 2 weeks of spa, thats probably how they got more points than u

[glad meteor]

This is the best bracket i ever had

[north brook]

My bracket randomly got paired with someone who was 40 lvls behind in c1

[versed mesa]

If my bracket is the same or gets worse after shuffle I'm not bothering. Will just use my free tickets and I'll get what I get at the end

[north brook]

Just a whale at pulling but no lvls

I just hope for the same, no real whales to increase top 3 competition

[versed mesa]

My only saving grace was that one of the whales never used gems for extra attempts.

[north brook]

The guy 20 lvls ahead of me just chilled c3, i chilled c1, other ppl were fighting over c2 mostly like 3 ways

[craggy pier]

does it reshuffle based on power? because im about to get my next big synchro power jump (20+1)

[north brook]

Acc creation date

If someones ahead far its money

[versed mesa]

If there is enough active players for multiple groups, you can get lucky and get into a bracket with comparable power

[oak hatch]

The accounts in spa will be all with ids that are close to yours

[craggy pier]

nice! thanks

[north brook]

Tbh my reshuffles are almost always some players ive seen before

[craggy pier]

someone snagged my ch8 spot that ive had for weeks right before season end

[north brook]

Its like a random subset of 3 groups from the same batch of 10

[versed mesa]

I had 6 months where I could just sit in C1 without anyone challenging me, the 3rd anniv shuffle was probably the worst I've ever had.

[north brook]

And ofc ull know ur own batch thoroughly

Since they will never leave

[tropic summit]

nah it's the risk i told you about, SWHA dies within 2RL because you don't have a B1 helping her live (e.g. noise or rapunzel)
speed was ok, nice try

[glad meteor]

[oak hatch]

It’s based on points u accumulated throughout the season so even if they snatch it at the end, it won’t matter much

[glad meteor]

Reaching 15hrs on nekomimi game?

[north brook]

Ya i had a knife fight for c3 among 2 other ppl 20 lvls up on me, with 1 +100 lvl whale and 1 +40 lvl whale

[glad meteor]

Game needs to be open to farm ?

[tropic summit]

@forest zodiac but ye unlucky timing on B1 cast, i just noticed noise didn't effectly proc in time

would've changed things then

[forest zodiac]

its ok, won anyways

[versed mesa]

I actually caused the whales in my group to start leveling faster since I could still beat their teams even with the 30-40 level difference

[tropic summit]

ye other 2 teams were solid

[rustic sandal]

Oh boy. Can't wait for next season to be messy.

[craggy pier]

I started doing really good when i broke up my scarlet trina jackal team

[upbeat dock]

The Rookie Arena reshuffle last week put me in a really uncompetitive group, noone here has any pvp comps, everyones just running pve teams

[rustic sandal]

Good. More arena tickets for you.

Use them to buy code manuals.

Gotta love an uncompetitive group.

At least I found a team to counter the Rank 1 guy, albeit it comes down to whoever's Nayuta is better.

[tropic summit]

fixed what reorganizing actually means

[craggy pier]

This was last shuffle for rookie arena i felt bad

[rustic sandal]

Perfect.

[eager brook]

I don't know if I'll still cp gap my CA bracket competition. Shuffles are always scary

[rustic sandal]

Damn. Can't win against the Cindy team anymore.

[oak hatch]

Gapping ca is crazy

[north brook]

Need to gap at least some ppl to hold top spots

[eager brook]

It's just that I was pit against low spenders

[craggy pier]

did you get all the extra battle things in the sin event? each hard mode quick battle you get 4x core dust

[rustic sandal]

Can't win against this anymore.

Idk where it went wrong.

[north brook]

Ur doing nayu vs nayu 50/50

[rustic sandal]

[oak hatch]

Did u try lib as bursting?

[rustic sandal]

Lib was bursting.

[north brook]

Should run noah probably

[craggy pier]

i give nayuta the cube that boosts hp when it drops below 20%

[rustic sandal]

Well, on the two occasions she wasn't.

[tropic summit]

he's blancless, noahless, jackaless, biscuitless, give him a brake

the man is a chad for even getting to ch1 with that box

[north brook]

Ah

Probably would want to do siren/soda/rosa to stop their nayu then

[tropic summit]

guess what, he's also -less of those units

[rustic sandal]

I can soda.

I have Rosa too.

[tropic summit]

both built? probably 4/4/4

[rustic sandal]

Yeah. That's the bare minimum.

[tropic summit]

guessed so, well soda does work on budget

[north brook]

Stopping nayu burst at least could mean urs wins duel

But soda is still rng note

[tropic summit]

ye

he'd remain on the path of copium

also rosanna needs enemy nayuta to be 1st or 2nd highest atk% to dispel

[rustic sandal]

Every fight is like that for me.

[north brook]

Long as she hits cindy/nayu/swole at least could turn the tides enough

But still gamble

[rustic sandal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1464701145527226523/1464808610549862451/eager_soline.gif

[true forum]

Can anyone help me create new sp arena teams?

[rustic sandal]

Guess I'll lose

[upbeat dock]

Just indom them

Oh.. you're blancless

[rustic sandal]

[teal ledge]

Bros, how do you deal with a player that’s obsessed with beating your team? lol this guy is nuts

[north brook]

Make one he cant beat

[teal ledge]

Now he’s mirroring my team

Nah dude this guy has a crazy we’d both be in 1st and 2nd but he’s forcing me to fight him for my points back

What can I do beside slow my team down?

[gaunt pulsar]

by losing to him but still punching him back, until one of you get bored of it, if he is determined he will crack your defenses no matter what, will learn on them, steal yours and become better player, it's like a free private lessons but you is the one who giving them. There no unbeatable def besides getting higher cp on your enemy

and rookie doesn't worth it, especially when your opponents have 5 tries to test stuff on you

[teal ledge]

Yeah I knew it was a mistake to put my attacking team out there

Yeah it’s not worth it I’m gonna drop rank and troll him back

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/no-you-tell-me-gif-21627644

[glad meteor]

[teal ledge]

This guy is truly a prick I’ve only responded to his attacks

I’d like to fight other teams not give this dude free lessons haha

[oak hatch]

Build/use vesti, she’s best b3 in pvp