pvp-arena

[swift mango]

I used Moran for map 17 hard boss when HelmT and Sirrn didn't exist
She is useless for campaign now even though she more built than then

[glossy sierra]

crown carried me like crazy

[lone sequoia]

i think all my clears from chapter 30 to 40 were hyper carry something, with rh b1

snake was the worst becasue you need really high cp (to reduce stats penalty) or manchor... didn't have her at the time

[glossy sierra]

Context: He getting beat up by a raw dps comp in pvp. I told him use jackal. He said not enough. I said use nayuta so she can tank the single target dmg and burst with scarlet since the other team has like 0 nuke protections

[rocky creek]

I wonder if her treasure will make her more useful in that aspect. It will be insane if they make her even more powerful for PvP

[swift mango]

Unless they made her re-enter b1 she won't have a slot for Campaign anytime soon. I used her when HelmT and Siren didn't exist. Now you just need to use Siren focus fire to clear Mat H (ch17 boss).

Can you have your bracket champ teams too, btw?

If it's not this guy.

[swift mango]

Well, CP matter. At 30%+ deficit he would likely to lose more than not.

Even with Nayuta blocking all AtK.

[swift mango]

I got Manchor now but

[glossy sierra]

he was at like 25k deficit, which is like 7% ish ?

here @swift mango

[swift mango]

1-(your CP/enemy CP) = deficit. Check deficit chart in pin. Anything below 15.4% isn't giving you stat reduction in Arena.

[swift mango]

@final wedge
Congrats on champ. I see you are same union with @raven plover

[keen vapor]

Valco

[glossy sierra]

Is anyone in my union recognizable

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/westworld-dolores-itdoesntlooklikeanythingtome-gif-18393363

[glossy sierra]

champions or smth

btw how much should I expect my union to do for me

[shell hazel]

it's not about what they can do for you, it's what you can do for them

https://tenor.com/view/meme-nikke-goddess-of-victory-nikke-dorothy-dorowhip-gif-13339968757220517040

[glossy sierra]

like just union raids or should they also get involved with coordinated operations

[glossy sierra]

I can barely fight normal mode in union raids, I doubt I can do anything for them ngl

I mean I do try my best, but realistically it's not a lot

[shell hazel]

then I would not expect them to rush out to help you in co-op :p

they're already going to be tired from carrying you about

[glossy sierra]

yeah fair enough

local Synchro 300 bum gets carried by his union members

[versed mesa]

My union, I just want them to login at least once a week, and if we can clear normal UR day 1, that is fine for me.

[shell hazel]

and then turns up dead one day 👀

[glossy sierra]

I'm curious because I've seen people talk about union members like they know each other off the platform, like Valco guy, cuz I genuinely don't know who anyone in my union is

anyways, the leader sends us messages about the weather though and wishes us good health (but idek what's going on in japan)

[versed mesa]

Some have discords for their union, I don't though. I just send the union mail notif when a raid is going on.

[glossy sierra]

hmm I should ask them

[shell hazel]

I'm in union with @hollow lagoon @nimble swan and @cunning crown we discuss many things

in discord

[hollow lagoon]

about hot spicy bunny nikkes

[shell hazel]

but it depends what you want, personally I prefer an active discord community

because it's way more fun than being in a silent union, but some people don't care and just want easy UR

[versed mesa]

Yeah that is why I haven't made one though I have thought about it. Don't wanna clutter my discord, if there is basically nothing going on there.

[shell hazel]

yeah you need a good number of people who will use it to make it actually work

[hollow lagoon]

also need spicy hot bunny nikkes

[shell hazel]

and that too yes 🙂

[hollow lagoon]

[umbral crown]

We know no jp

[glossy sierra]

tbf I only play in jp server cuz I live in SEA

[hollow lagoon]

sea has sea server

[glossy sierra]

wait what ?

[umbral crown]

`` /

[umbral crown]

This

[glossy sierra]

Ohhh right I was rerolling

[hollow lagoon]

yamete

[glossy sierra]

nvm nvm I was rerolling that's why

[umbral crown]

Kudasai

[shell hazel]

janai

[umbral crown]

Arigatou

[hollow lagoon]

[umbral crown]

But thats ok

We have plenty of cn in global

To the point top 8 in CA were CNs

[shell hazel]

us vs Asia

[umbral crown]

Indeed

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/frodo-keep-your-secrets

[glad meteor]

Scar trina rosa is a fun comp

I got scar pretty damn late

[marble saddle]

@tropic summit here i go

nope...

[glad meteor]

Nayuta clip sg clip sg siren clip sg?

[swift mango]

why not just vesti it?

[marble saddle]

i think there was a CS issue

[swift mango]

then just 3rl Blanc+Rapipi it

[austere marsh]

is there like a staple Nayuta team?

[glad meteor]

ZweiT will come and you can tap snow at 1rl surely

[swift mango]

Noah+Biscuit+Cindy+Helm+Siren

[marble saddle]

nothing is staple in PVP. every team has a counter

[marble saddle]

meh im already rank 5. might as well yolo 1 more time

[glad meteor]

[marble saddle]

@swift mango nice try

[swift mango]

3rl Blanc rapipi maybe an Easier win

Rapipi+Blanc+Biscuit+RH+Jackal
Blanc+Rapipi+Helm+Biscuit+Jackal

[marble saddle]

ill try that next reset im out of attempts

[swift mango]

you got beaten with Off burst SW lol

[light verge]

why do not you try Jackal SnowHA Laplace Blanc Helmt if cp allows it

[marble saddle]

CP strat coming in clutch for him

[tropic summit]

stun landed on SWHA anyway, RIP the plan

[marble saddle]

shit happens. no worries. we'll get him next time

[tropic summit]

it's a very tight timeframe afterall

[glad meteor]

Would be better if cindy killed sw and stunned blanc

[tropic summit]

spaghetti code in this game doesn't help

[glad meteor]

[marble saddle]

CP Pad strat > anything

[swift mango]

it's indom SW, just beat it with 3rl indom.

[tropic summit]

obviously, 💳 master race

[tropic summit]

he's on deficit genius

[swift mango]

Eh, not 2.5/2.7m is defict.

[light verge]

when snow and helm are in the same team, things become a bit trickier

[marble saddle]

im not penalized tho. im 14% deficit

[glad meteor]

Have Core 7 mpriv and drake, 4 ele

[tropic summit]

then do it, slow indom cheap way out

i thought you were gapped

[marble saddle]

#pvp-arena message

3 wins 2 fails. so net rank was 2

[tropic summit]

ye looks about fine, just don't get dmg on fire code

[worn ridge]

@tropic summit

[tropic summit]

SWHA pre burst hits like a truck

[glad meteor]

I was thinking

Nayuta clipsg clipsg siren clipsg
Nayuta xmaiden laplace vesti siren

[swift mango]

Jackal+Blanc+Rapipi+Biscuit+Helm

use this next time.

[tropic summit]

close nice try, do vestiTU instead of s.anis and that's a win
(careful on burst gen and timing tho)

[swift mango]

Check nikke.deck though, if it's 2rl, could try replace Helm.

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

check enemy team feed

it's probably around 8-11%

[marble saddle]

fq

[swift mango]

https://nikke-deck.web.app/deck?deck=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

This should be fine

[glad meteor]

[swift mango]

Link doesn't show image

[light verge]

[tropic summit]

[keen vapor]

Nice coding

[marble saddle]

[keen vapor]

I mean :tf:

[tropic summit]

ye you'd be 2RL with that feed, gotta push the team down a bit in burst, see with SWHA or vestiTU

[swift mango]

not much feed with Blanc p1

[tropic summit]

you still get minimal feed in p2 and p3, but definitely not enough for 2RL i guess

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

that fixes it

[swift mango]

don't put Quantum on Jackal

[tropic summit]

also if/when you got free attempts and this isn't in deficit, show me if you can kill blanc

scarlet vestiTU trina emi jackal (jackal quantum, scarlet tempering)

[marble saddle]

resistance then?

[swift mango]

vigor to be sure. Rapipi is the only one without vigor in the link

So no mistake

[marble saddle]

all other 4 need vigor?

[swift mango]

only Jackal, Biscuit and Helm if you don't have enough investment on them

[marble saddle]

glad i leveled my vigor cube to 13 then

[swift mango]

[marble saddle]

only thing they dont have is min maxed OL stats
everything else is maxed

[swift mango]

You need to kill both Blanc and SW so Rapu doesn't revive Balnc

[marble saddle]

all 3 c7
all 3 10/10/10
all 3 SR 15 dolls
all 3 bond 30

[keen vapor]

Guys

[marble saddle]

No

[keen vapor]

New chapters
New lost sectors

[keen vapor]

New cube!

[glad meteor]

[marble saddle]

i said it privaty was getting a treasure

[glad meteor]

I though echo name said something else for a sec

[tropic summit]

when

[glad meteor]

ZweiT boo||t||s

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

[keen vapor]

February

[marble saddle]

1/4 is still a win imo

[swift mango]

@marble saddle could work if you killed both SW and Blanc. Rapu revive SW and can't burst.

[tropic summit]

thank you captain obvious

[tropic summit]

ye that's the idea, just curious

[marble saddle]

thats what rail was trying to get with siren

[keen vapor]

I don't have early access to stuff

[tropic summit]

then what are you waiting for?

[glad meteor]

I’m still gold. Not yapper enough

[swift mango]

but it's hard if they had high CS on HelmT and Vesti.

[marble saddle]

lurk less shitpost more

[keen vapor]

Centi

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/winterz-soon

[tropic summit]

simp

[quick lake]

Centi was unexpected

[keen vapor]

She's a hard worker 💪

[quick lake]

Bet her treasure gonna be useless

[swift mango]

Centi gonna be new Noah

[quick lake]

Either be new giga clipRL or trash

[tropic summit]

unfortunately, there are useless treasures around, can see it happening

the next good thing would be she gives a shield on burst to whole team, kinda like crown

[swift mango]

Hard to make Centi useless.

even small improvement is an improvement

[keen vapor]

Centi spamming shields per full charge

[quick lake]

Best would probably be letting have another proc of gen. Thats great enough. We’re no where near 1RL meta anyways

[tropic summit]

wait wut, do we really wanna go the 1RL route

who's gonna defend against that

[swift mango]

Elegg 0rl nuke

[quick lake]

shiftup prob wont allow 1RL. Kinda breaks pvp

[swift mango]

The last line is pointless

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-girl-142

[keen vapor]

What Moran can improve on, seriously

Is she getting the Bay treasure?

Surely an extra HP bar helps but...

[tropic summit]

from unkillable to god i guess

[keen vapor]

That's only one skill

[swift mango]

give her Reflection

[keen vapor]

No

[tropic summit]

better hope your vesti ada are built

[keen vapor]

THEY ARE

How dare you to suggest otherwise
-# Vesti missing ammo as usual

[swift mango]

double her s3 number

[keen vapor]

[glad meteor]

Immunity to true damage

Soon

Dispel attack buffs

[swift mango]

Well, 1000000000 * 0 = 0. give her 100% dr

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/three-little-piggies-building

[keen vapor]

Oh
Build

Right

[placid bloom]

you know D is even better than Elegg if she work in PvP

[swift mango]

98.56 is slow. instant burst is the win.

[placid bloom]

instant don't matter unless you are weak to Ros B1

[keen vapor]

He has a point

98 is the difference between 1 RL and 0 RL

[swift mango]

0.3rl team could lose to 1rl team. 0rl team can't

[tropic summit]

[placid bloom]

1 SMG already make it 0.5RL

2 SMG will make it 0.25RL

plus you have stun immunity

[swift mango]

0.5rl even weaker.

[placid bloom]

you don't run RL

you run SMG and AR

ofc RL is bad in that team

[swift mango]

Soda 0rl would still stun you

[placid bloom]

no there is stun immunity at start of battle

it's not at full burst

that's why I said if she work in PvP

but she don't

[swift mango]

3buff rosa would" still beat your ass

[placid bloom]

yes it's weak to Ros

[swift mango]

[placid bloom]

but so is Elegg

so no diff

[tropic summit]

🍿

[swift mango]

my Elegg rosa is faster than your D rosa.

[glad meteor]

Treasure will just fix to 100% surely

[placid bloom]

hmm Scar D already 0.2RL actually, better than Mermaid

[tropic summit]

i like how we speeduring any% to fully break arena

[placid bloom]

which other AR have good burst gen

[glad meteor]

sg instant hit?

[placid bloom]

I guess SG is frame 0 hit

[swift mango]

Then Elegg treasure would make you b1+2+3 simultaneously

[placid bloom]

well this is just Elegg but stun immune

[swift mango]

slower

[placid bloom]

now it don't lose to Ros either, only lose to Label

[glad meteor]

Nayuta biscuit cindy team surely

[placid bloom]

unless they fix Cinderella to lose to Noah again

do you think they will fix Cinderella

[glad meteor]

But would need to kill moran

[quick lake]

what is this moran copium

[placid bloom]

no space for Nayuta + Biscuit though if you want to fit SG for 0 frame

[glad meteor]

Moran will be unkillable, immune to true damage and dispel atk buffs. Trust

[swift mango]

Nah she would have 66666666% atk wipe.

[glad meteor]

[quick lake]

They’re probably gonna buff Moran’s DR numbers imo. VesTU and SWHA is annoying now. Moran should be new counter

[placid bloom]

get Nero to 140% damage reduc so it is still 100% after Blanc

[swift mango]

Vesti can be counter with 3rl Noah+bisucit, or Rapipi indom.
SW could be countered by 3-4rl indom.

[quick lake]

Maybe some Anti-indom mechanic. More lifesteal maybe

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/the-office-michael-scott-279

[placid bloom]

dispel all enemy buff when you FB

[quick lake]

Interesting to see how itll be implemented

[placid bloom]

counter all defensive B1 and B2

[tropic summit]

forget that, that'd be such an abusable weapon from whels on deficit

the opposite of vestiTU, it counters underdog cuz moran can then solo

[swift mango]

Give moran Revive.

[quick lake]

idk how they gonna buff her maybe give her more useless DEF

[placid bloom]

change defense gain per % HP less to damage reduc per % HP lost

[umbral crown]

Rail, how do i fight moranT teams?

New besto question here

[placid bloom]

shoot them until they are dead

[quick lake]

Mirror MoranT with stronger MoranT

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

you slap this and pray for the best

surely true dmg will counter moran's def% stacking

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

i do not have Ada, who can replace her

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/ive-got-some-bad-news-bazarack

[umbral crown]

Preparing you for common questions

[umbral crown]

[gaunt pulsar]

here now it actually procs

[glad meteor]

bye bye mihara rng

[swift mango]

Replace centi with SW BB or Helm

[tropic summit]

less likely ada stays linked with those, but ye if one can afford to do so why not

[swift mango]

You don't need ada linked just vesti

[tropic summit]

depends on what you facin'

[light verge]

that would be crazy

[cedar sorrel]

Anyone can help me improve these teams? They were railtracer teams that I changed around for atking purposes. I have jackal at a pretty good cp now too

[umbral belfry]

best tank moran about to be even tankier thanks SU

[versed mesa]

Damn I wish it wasn't possible to gem in Arena

[keen vapor]

Idk
Jackal could be on any team.... Wait, wym attack

You only attack with 2

[versed mesa]

Two opponents who I can hold back with defense for a bit, but they just keep gemming to force through, even though they are already in the minus for the gems they get back for doing that.

[cedar sorrel]

What

[keen vapor]

You're supposed to do a Crow single unit team (or whatever you like) to focus and make those 2 better

[cedar sorrel]

Yea currently my t2 is pretty bad. But the people in chall have 3 times with pretty equal cp so theyre better off on def than me for sure

[versed mesa]

I make three attack teams always and I win with all 3

(usually)

(sometimes)

[cedar sorrel]

The people Im fighting got like 210k+ cp teams usually so I gotta throw a matchup away usually

[keen vapor]

[gritty ridge]

What if moranT is just 20 sec cd with grave style gen increase for 2nd burst

[versed mesa]

I don't even have moran built as is and now she gets treasure too Though Centi getting one is cool since I have her at SR15 already

[keen vapor]

At least everyone has Privaty

[versed mesa]

I've gotten Privaty dupes so many times that I could have 2x Core 7 of her now

[craggy pier]

I thought Bay would be better in pvp, mine is really built too

[keen vapor]

No Noah is better

[glad meteor]

Built bay. And unbuilt bay isnt really that much different unless under certain circumstances

[fathom rock]

RAIL ITS BEEN 31 HOURS

[glad meteor]

Rail-san

[keen vapor]

Rail-sama?

[glad meteor]

Rail-kun

[silent torrent]

is there a way to slowly learn when one can win a battle or is it something one learns through trial and error without it being an exact science?

[keen vapor]

Rail-sama

[fathom rock]

Trial and error is learning

[silent torrent]

trial and error it is then, rookie arena doesnt matter as much right? I believe thatd be the best way for me to try teams for now

[craggy pier]

you can put your team in the online tools pinned here and see what it says

[glad meteor]

You can learn speed and timing of skills. Though you’ll hit a place where your asking if there’s enough invest to see if it’d work as expected

[fathom rock]

Rookie = learning grounds

You can learn speeds and invests etc but nothing gonna be like trial and error

[keen vapor]

Nikke Deck tutorial

[craggy pier]

the biggest things for me learning: Siren will stun slot1 or taunt character after 50 hits - 2RL teams burst faster than she can stun, scarlet jackal teams shred shotgun/machine-gun teams because scarlet counters each hit, jackal gets burst gen each hit, trina makes scarlet invulnerable for 2 sec and keeps her alive, bisquit will make noah/cindy or any defender invincible for 5 sec, blank keeps lowest hp teamate indomitable for 10 seconds

oh and Nayuta starts with 9 seconds indomitability so with helm burst, shes one of my top right now instead of scarlet

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit the same guy again, yesterday he was 499, today he was 500 and now he is 501

[keen vapor]

Omedetto

Gosaimasu

[warm monolith]

No japanese

[keen vapor]

Congrats, you have a whale

[spiral onyx]

Damn, bro was forced into an ultimatum. And he chose Nikke PvP
https://x.com/axel_nikke/status/2015767844055916722?s=20

アクセル@NIKKE (@axel_nikke)

私事で恐縮ですがこの度ゲームを辞めるか結婚するのを辞めるかの2択を迫られてゲームを続けることを宣言して交際相手と破局しました😭
この選択を後悔しないためにもより一層メガニケ特にチャンアリを頑張っていきたいと思います💪

X · Jan 26, 2026, 12:44 PM

[keen vapor]

Into who?

[spiral onyx]

An ultimatum. A non-negotiable Option A or B scenario

[keen vapor]

Wth is meganeque

[spiral onyx]

"It's either me or your jiggling butts game"

He chose jiggling butts

[keen vapor]

WHO

[spiral onyx]

Slang translation.Chaanari = Champion Arena. I'm not sure what Meganeque is

[keen vapor]

That sounds very Wuwa like

[gaunt pulsar]

sounds like "mega nikke"

[glad meteor]

JP gons

[keen vapor]

Still doesn't makes sense

[craggy pier]

yeah dont try showing your wives even the bandage Marian story, they don't get it lol

[opaque chasm]

On what point of investment Vesti TU is?

Do I need to 10/10/10 SR15?

[spiral onyx]

Bro's wife/fiancee told him to stop playing Nikke. He refused. She said it's me or your jiggling butts game. He chose jiggling butts game. He is letting the world know that he will now have more time to focus his attention on Nikke, especially Champion Arena

[craggy pier]

lol

[gaunt pulsar]

well he wants to put more effort into nikke and champ arena is how i would interpret it

[keen vapor]

Mine is 4/10/7

[quiet merlin]

scarlet/blanc/rosanna/swha/helmT
how do i beat this?

[craggy pier]

for vesti, i mean i'd see how the next new character is but I got mine to 19.97% charge speed, i think that's the biggest thing she needs

[glad meteor]

Noah biscuit cindy helmt jackal

[spiral onyx]

For additional context

I have no idea who this guy is btw, I just saw this randomly on Twitter lol

[keen vapor]

Ok

[glad meteor]

Like 5k

[opaque chasm]

How about doll? Is SR5 enough?

[keen vapor]

MAX

[craggy pier]

yeah more is better for keeping any of them alive but we do have some new fav items to save for

[quiet merlin]

didnt work

[keen vapor]

Centi Privaty Moran Zwei

[spiral onyx]

Just over $6k, enough to buy a decent wedding ring or a luxury bag or two for her

[glad meteor]

can you show cp

[opaque chasm]

Thanks

[glad meteor]

Maybe cindy stole biscuit s2

[glad meteor]

Hmm

[tropic summit]

you need to play with CP padding here

[glad meteor]

Scar s2 too strong

[stuck hearth]

new def team is really strong or i havent found the right counter. wdyt

[tropic summit]

use these archetypes and fix CP yourself

scarlet is weak to either bay or noah
their T3 you already have the same team ready to counter them, you can see it attached

keep T3 on 2RL with rosa b1 and nayuta p1
keep T2 2RL with either noah or bayT bursting

[glad meteor]

Their rosa hit p5. Interesting

[tropic summit]

nayuta rosanna jackal helmt laplaceT, rosanna linked, 7/10/10 20-40atk%, SR5
or
scarlet trina rh centi jackal

[glad meteor]

Can you retry but swap jackal and cindy position

That was cindy decoy tank rosa burst

[warm monolith]

Let me check the deficit on those teams real quick

[quiet merlin]

ya that worked

[warm monolith]

On second thought my cp is almost reaching his so no need

[tropic summit]

against scarlet with cindy team you can be 18-22% deficit

[glad meteor]

p3 rosa scary

This is a usual team I used to use against that

[tropic summit]

a man on a mission

[quiet merlin]

i can try tomorrow

[warm monolith]

No deficit in any, but why t2 burst with thelm?

[tropic summit]

helm dies to rosanna, you can put her in p4 she'll die regardless

but ye move cindy in p3 on the assumption enemy rosanna is pepega

maybe she's not well built and won't even lethal

[glad meteor]

Is your pfp hestia from danmachi?

[tropic summit]

silly kara, i'd recognize those in a second

[quiet merlin]

indeed

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

Gimme a break

[tropic summit]

weak weeb

[glad meteor]

Been a while since I watched

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit Both worked,thanks

But my hand made team lost,so im sad

[tropic summit]

a couple that can't respect each other hobbies has no future... although ofc common sense to a certain degree is still needed... if the partner spends way too much time on a single gacha game, then he's kinda part of the problem.

Balance is key

[warm monolith]

My team was vestitu/blanc/rap/centi/jackal. I thought i could save vesti with rap but they targetted them on p3, would she be saved if she was in p4 in that situation. Also i was in a bit of an deficit

[tropic summit]

p2 blanc and p3 rapunzel on deficit can go wrong

try to always avoid deficit

if you have to still fight in deficit, use either nayuta p1 or noah biscuit archetypes

[warm monolith]

I mean, it was just a test team so i could learn. I just wanna know if rap on p4 wouldnt have died and used burst

[warm monolith]

Its leftover team

[tropic summit]

maybe, i didn't look

not a team i'd run in the first place anyhow

[tropic summit]

you should actually be happy with yourself, your self cooked team with rosanna and bay is working well against enemy indoms

[shell hazel]

Railtracer I need to get commander level 34 so I can get to the next zone :9

[warm monolith]

I wanna name it Bay's Place

That team is called that from now on

Nayuta/tBay/sw/rosa/tlap

[tropic summit]

weakness disgusts me

[shell hazel]

do we run bays place or amaranthe salad like @hollow lagoon says?

[tropic summit]

but i'm probably behind you in main story progression, i've done quite a few secondary quests

[keen vapor]

Wym 42 level on Enfield

Do you sleep

[tropic summit]

5-6 hours a day

i mean penguin is ahead of me

that's even more concerning

[warm monolith]

Rail i wanna go to ca, can you cook

[shell hazel]

the only day I played a lot was sunday tbh I was busy before then

[tropic summit]

there's no beating those, meta teams on severe deficit, RIP

[tropic summit]

you hit for 1 dmg against those, 90% stat deficit

[warm monolith]

Yeah i was just joking around

Ans this guy is fine with 2. Place, he doesnt even fight

[tropic summit]

near 200 synchro lvls ahead is wild

[warm monolith]

Money talks

[shell hazel]

if you go enough into deficit maybe it will buffer overflow and the opponent into deficit instead

[warm monolith]

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel

[shell hazel]

chesty 😮

I need a plant from the next zone for my factory

[versed mesa]

Last day before SPA shuffle. we all get good shuffles

[shell hazel]

so I'll go for 34 today and see if I can sneak it in before I go to bed

btw I'm going for hard pity on the ordinary ticket equivalent

[versed mesa]

If my new bracket is as shit as this last one though, I'm retiring

[shell hazel]

I'm successfully 10 away from a guranteed 6 *

[tropic summit]

f2p or you spent money?

game is so generous i'd think it's a waste p2p in this game

[shell hazel]

f2p

[tropic summit]

oh noice

[shell hazel]

I'm not planning to spend on this one atm

[tropic summit]

i think i'll save up, standard units are so strong as is already

[shell hazel]

maybe not ever tbh I'm sort of casual it

this is for the ordinary tickets not lev banner

[tropic summit]

ah got it

[shell hazel]

you'd want 120 pulls worth for lev banner for 100%

pity does not carry over

[tropic summit]

i might skip her tbh, from experience day 1 limited chars get powercrept in a few weeks if not months

[shell hazel]

btw the mid battle pass is worth if you hit the end, 29 original things and you get 32 back

it's free shit but only if you complete it

no spending needed figured you'd like that one

i'll wait till I can def do it all though, if you're missing last tiers it's not as good as 7 of them are on very last one

booba whale finally passed MC at 495

[stuck hearth]

neither worked. their burst is faster than mine. even did a stack of pure burst gen and losing the burst war lmao

[tropic summit]

they're 2.5RL theoretically, i guess they've very high CS%

[rich quail]

[tropic summit]

guess you can punish with indom then, they've no lifesteal

[rich quail]

I AM NOT A WHEEL

[tropic summit]

vestiTU helmT blanc centi jackal (ensure vestiTU has lower HP than helmT), tempering on vestiTU

[rich quail]

ARA

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/ara-ara-gif-20411190

[stuck hearth]

Sadly dont have vesti TU invested at all.

[glad meteor]

All them max cores

[tropic summit]

can indom SWHA instead then

SWHA helmT blanc centi jackal

same rule, SWHA less HP than helmT

[glad meteor]

Snow siren blanc centi jackal should be interesting

[shell hazel]

I've been so dumb lately, I know I wanted to do miranda treasure at some point - but she's on bond 1 lol

[glad meteor]

Stun noah

[shell hazel]

sorry @gritty ridge

[glad meteor]

[gritty ridge]

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-ehehe-shy-gif-25842019

[shell hazel]

almost enough to become officially old

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

stop raising your synchro

you catching up to me and blood

[shell hazel]

I can't help it!

https://tenor.com/view/friends-doug-chandler-work-lines-gif-18170008

[glad meteor]

Enikk should update after ur

[shell hazel]

blood is slacking though he's still on behemoth at 521+ sync

[tropic summit]

uh for real?

even i beat behe at 501

[shell hazel]

what can you sync to now rail?

[tropic summit]

with a f*ing s.anis

[glad meteor]

He can raise to 1000

[tropic summit]

1001

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/anis-nikke-nikke-goddess-of-victory-cheers-gif-4503918877696626486

[glad meteor]

Trust

[tropic summit]

dunno let's find out

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/watermelon-cat-funny-gif-2280908438162700469

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-infinity-war-gamora-what-did-it-cost-gif-14001403

[tropic summit]

behold, my whel power

[glad meteor]

Rail the whale

[shell hazel]

got a whales to go then

[wise horizon]

This looks ok to go?

[glad meteor]

@umbral crown

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/stop-stop-hes-already-dead

[shell hazel]

wait how bricked is rosy? 😮

is that indom cindy I see? 😄

[tropic summit]

you eating fire code ele weak on link with 2 sgs, as long as you live to indom T1 is probably fine
T2 is direct counter so no problem there

[shell hazel]

that haircut looks similar!

[tropic summit]

opponent running linked blanc in p1 uh

[glad meteor]

Are you esdeath pfp

I’m trying to reawaken the weeb

[shell hazel]

nah he at snek like me I think

[shell hazel]

nah is not esdeath

[glad meteor]

Gacha or anime

[shell hazel]

anime

[tropic summit]

why are you at snek so early

[glad meteor]

Recreators?

[shell hazel]

early bird catches the snek

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/re-creators-anime-gif-8281049

correcto

[glad meteor]

[shell hazel]

I may need crown instead of mast we'll see how much is survival vs dps

[glad meteor]

I hated snake

[shell hazel]

i'm planning to go for it at 501+ or the new chapters

[tropic summit]

hippo is mad, snek at 501 is gonna be sudoku

[shell hazel]

I could probably sync 501 and do it but with 2 new chapters in feb I'd lose some cd

nah it's doable with new SW

[glad meteor]

[glad meteor]

I used scalter

[tropic summit]

times were different

[glad meteor]

Retro

[lunar pawn]

Altair my beloved

[tropic summit]

the man the legend

[shell hazel]

484 was lowest sync but not lowest cp no anchor even lol

[tropic summit]

probably 30fps, third party tools and god knows what other secret tech cheese

[glad meteor]

Who need tank

[shell hazel]

I'd love to see how they did it

[tropic summit]

there's crown so he definitely cheesed with taunt

[shell hazel]

that's the soline guy in my SPA

or was soline, change to rouge

[tropic summit]

then again high cores on all units

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

they play a different game than the normal pleb

[shell hazel]

is whale

[glad meteor]

Rouge skin

[glad meteor]

Giga water

[shell hazel]

they got all the latest skins yeah

inc rouge and the other gachas

[glad meteor]

WE about to fund nikke and buy trony skin soon

[shell hazel]

not biggest whale I saw though, doesn't seem to be buying lots of sync

trony not my type of unit at all big skip for me lol

[tropic summit]

hippo not a feet person

[shell hazel]

not really no

or a smol person person

[tropic summit]

legal petite grills can be gud

can't say the same for the extreme instead

then again just slap the "she's an elf, they look young but are 500 years old" and noone bats an eye

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/horusultra-rias-gremori-anime-pose-gif-12207972

more of a rias type fan tbh 😄

[glad meteor]

Kazehana

[fathom rock]

@tropic summit almost 33 hours bro the bills....

[tropic summit]

33 hours of wut

[shell hazel]

the factory must grow

[tropic summit]

oh it's also because i leave it running while i work/do something else

[fathom rock]

The bills

[tropic summit]

that's probably not real on the actual time played

[shell hazel]

pc doesn't cost that much to leave running

[tropic summit]

they're not too bad when you live alone

[fathom rock]

[shell hazel]

my power grid usage today

[north brook]

Black snake right? Likely just kills before getting heavily nuked, or skips the nuke phase/has helm heal barely live it

Swole is a really big jump in dmg from just having helm

[shell hazel]

yes

easier with their cp as well

[north brook]

Max core is pretty much like having mlb + 20 level bracket

Or 0lb + 40 lvl bracket

[shell hazel]

yeah

[north brook]

Id assume they rng swole to crit every time with mmast

Helm nuke too

Unreal malding likely

[shell hazel]

didn't seem to take em that long but yeah cp does help in that regard

doubt it's doable at 484 with 0LB same units

[north brook]

Ya wouldnt be possible u need that base atk

[gritty ridge]

My favorite was irina

If thats her name, its been a long time since I watched dxd

[shell hazel]

?

[gritty ridge]

Yeah

The angel girl

[keen vapor]

Someone said.... Angel?

https://tenor.com/view/heavens-lost-property-gif-7460596

[gritty ridge]

Is that miku

Is that triple baka

In a car

[lunar pawn]

damn

cp gap was so big my blanc died before she got low enough to trigger biscuit invul

[rustic sandal]

[wild hemlock]

No anchor is crazy. Idk what my synch was but the only way I could survive was anchor burst. I think crown burst doesn't even block the big aoe hit. Although this was before SWHA so idk maybe you do so much dmg now you can blast through everything

[gritty ridge]

Whats happening in that t1...

How many unoverloaded units did you put in?

[leaden canyon]

@tropic summit well look at that, its almost like we got spies in here

[rustic sandal]

All. I'm too busy prioritizing my campaign units.

[tropic summit]

show CP

Need:

T1 2142k
T2 2193k
T3 2134k

[tropic summit]

T2 can stay in minor deficit... T3 needs to avoid deficit

[leaden canyon]

I can try and fingers crossed nayuta for more cp i guess

[tropic summit]

30k short gonna need to push them up

post your updated box

might actually gonna go for sacc here

we can abuse the needless amount of dmg he's putting in p1 p2 and p3

[leaden canyon]

Did you want the blabla link?

[tropic summit]

no oldschool screenshot of the box is better

[leaden canyon]

Yes my centi isn't SR 15, RIP

At least my moran is ready though lol

Watch centi treasure turn her into a re enter

[tropic summit]

show CP with this

kinda want that T3 to be out of deficit

[umbral crown]

[leaden canyon]

fighhting kraken real quick

[umbral crown]

whats your overall cp right now rail

like 4m?

[tropic summit]

campaign or you mean defense teams

[umbral crown]

defense

you know i will never ask for pve

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

i'm running meme teams atm, it's a bit more than that

[umbral crown]

waos

[glad meteor]

C2 seems kind

[tropic summit]

hasn't fought me since 3 months

real wingman

1 less MF to defend against at least

[umbral crown]

im 3.5 at 486, i still have a chance me thinks

[glad meteor]

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

ok out of deficit with this one... gonna need to remove cindy and you might be good to go

[tropic summit]

change it to nayuta moran vestiTU ros emilia

if emilia nukes your CP we gonna need to put lappy

oh hold on

SWHA still available and she's way higher

[leaden canyon]

yeep

[tropic summit]

nayuta moran vestiTU ros swha

[tropic summit]

deficit

[leaden canyon]

I can throw rocks at nayuta

[umbral crown]

snow vs sanis not gonna last much

[tropic summit]

nah hold on

[tropic summit]

that's the point

[umbral crown]

[leaden canyon]

I would like to say that my hood can solo burst kill his entire team with only her b1 buff

[tropic summit]

@leaden canyon should fix finally CP

[tropic summit]

well you can sub ros for RH, you're on around 3RL if SWHA dies within 2RL

but you need to be out of deficit

[tropic summit]

can move lappy in p5 to last longer

[tropic summit]

ye out of deficit

[leaden canyon]

lap has temp cube on, keep that or change?

same with SWHA

[tropic summit]

up to you which path to take:

nayuta wipe

• nayuta swha vestiTU RH laplace

rosanna proc

• nayuta laplaceT vestiTU ros swha

both are relatively interesting

T2 i'm guessing he's gonna be 2.5RL hence why i'm making you 2.5RL via SBS

as long as you hit noah B2 when he's on B3 you're fine, link will get nuked and you go into sustain mode

make sure you equip those quantum 7 on T2 for 2.5RL

getting same results from nikke-deck so it should be OK

[tropic summit]

for rosanna sacc don't tempering, but do temper vestiTU
for nayuta wipe you can temper lappy

[leaden canyon]

I have cs

[tropic summit]

that's still 2.5RL works fine

in fact ensures you're 2.5RL without quantums

you can pad with good cubes, temper helmt and sbs, vigor noise and biscuit

[leaden canyon]

already got that on them

[tropic summit]

you're an expert at this point

[leaden canyon]

Ok sending it

[keen vapor]

No

[leaden canyon]

Ok well you're going to laugh at this

[tropic summit]

🍿

my popcorn is ready

[glad meteor]

🍿

[leaden canyon]

Oh let me reupload it

[tropic summit]

🍿

[leaden canyon]

hmmmm

let me re edited it then

[tropic summit]

at least i got to see T2 still didn't watch T3

🍿

[leaden canyon]

Was it loading for you?

[tropic summit]

ye it was

[leaden canyon]

Oh

Wasnt for me so I thought it broke

Yeah still doesn't load for me lmao, but if it does for you thats all that matters

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/perfection-michael-fassbender-1

took a while for T2, T3 ironically looked way easier than i thought

if you RH instead of rosanna i think nayuta might've solo'ed

perhaps s.anis could live

[tropic summit]

btw were you on noise or noah taunt priority?

[leaden canyon]

Noah hhas more cs

[tropic summit]

yeah then aggro worked as intended

split tanked between noah and noise, noise pulled aggro slightly after shield ended

[leaden canyon]

Lol even you sennding it back to me it has the exact same loading issues

weird

I did another edit

[tropic summit]

bah works fine for me i wonder if your discord just broke

[leaden canyon]

Same problem

discord broke for me

[tropic summit]

nice try btw with scarlet, that team was on deficit ye?

[leaden canyon]

yep

209

[tropic summit]

still did fairly nice all considered

if we commit CP to it it might win

[leaden canyon]

I just know it needs blanc there because if we nuke everything but moran, moran can still kill scarlet if not for blanc

[tropic summit]

would be interesting trying a scar ada blanc combo

but i don't think your ada is up there with CP

[leaden canyon]

Well its already in massive deficit, whats a little more

[tropic summit]

ye could do a throaway team with her next time

[leaden canyon]

But isn't it funny how the one time we beat that team he does the perfect counter to what we did

[tropic summit]

assuming only noah and moran are left alive, scarlet might actually lifesteal back

[tropic summit]

to me it looked more like he's trying to gap you on 3 teams

but ye he fixed noah positioning to avoid p2 and p3 dmg

kinda obvious

[leaden canyon]

Which ALL the other times hes lost, he has not touched that team because we nevver beat it

[tropic summit]

true...

[leaden canyon]

We should probably delete the evidence

Meeh

[tropic summit]

there's something we can troll with if he keeps noah p5

[leaden canyon]

too much evidence to delete

[leaden canyon]

Whats that

[tropic summit]

especially thanks to your stocked SR's atk%

[leaden canyon]

OH

I didn't even think of that

[tropic summit]

noah will pull vestiTU at 1RL, she gets x3 SRs shots + vestiTU partial barrage

[leaden canyon]

Mad worried for hood there but let me check cp

[tropic summit]

gonna need a flex p5 ye

either helm or swha

[leaden canyon]

Idk how tf we would kill another team with SWHA, helm and vesti being used in 1

[tropic summit]

ye in range, need 2142k

[tropic summit]

SWHA or helmT can be flexed with lib/emilia

2 SRs are probably enough since vesti will also hit

nayuta B2 also happens before their B2

[leaden canyon]

[tropic summit]

doubt noah can live early dmg + nayuta buffed nuke

well, just an idea to keep in mind if we wanna fight that T1

[leaden canyon]

yep

I guess this does leave noah biscuit lib open for another team

[tropic summit]

jackal moran trina aswell

[leaden canyon]

yeah

[tropic summit]

i picked T2 and T3 because they required less brain anyhow

[leaden canyon]

Speaking of moran, I was just joking about her getting a treasure and be a raid boss shift up, what have you done

[tropic summit]

that's is gonna be a royal pain in the harse if she's getting even stronger

[leaden canyon]

Only way shhe gimps is if they turn he into a re-enter

I think they learned their lesson though with re-enter treasures

Has not been one since viper

[tropic summit]

re-enter can be good for pve

if they wanna kill a unit for pvp tho it's the right call

[leaden canyon]

Btw are we getting two different treasure sets? because I saw feb and july are going to have treasures

[placid bloom]

they are just sticking to their normal schedule of 6 month per batch. Feb one just a bit late, but July is on time

prev batch was last July too

[umbral crown]

Yes

[leaden canyon]

ahhh alright

[rustic sandal]

I cooked.

[umbral crown]

[rustic sandal]

Oh damn. NCC is in CH1.

I gotta love how no one actually lasts in CH1. Everyday there's a new one.

[north brook]

How did nayutas indom work exactly again its just first 9 sec nayu has indom?

[gritty ridge]

Yes

[light verge]

as long as rosanna does not dispell her buff, she will have 9 secs without die

[tropic summit]

at start of battle nayuta has indom on herself, this buff can be dispelled by rosanna if she happens to be 1st or 2nd highest atk% in the team

[hollow lagoon]

looks like you just use a nuke with siren to make nayuta not burst

wrong ping

[hollow lagoon]

looks like you just use a nuke with siren to make nayuta not burst

[north brook]

Ya first 9 sec alright

[tropic summit]

team wide 11CS% exists, that's the problem

[hollow lagoon]

then i guess u need something that livest nayuta burst after

[tropic summit]

ye noise B1

or moran B1 too

[hollow lagoon]

or just a indom of sortsd

[tropic summit]

nah indom gets f*ed

blanc cast is after nayuta dmg is applied

[hollow lagoon]

well shit

[tropic summit]

also she hits ele weak on jackal link

[hollow lagoon]

oh well

[tropic summit]

that's why i give that team a lot on defense

it's monkey-proof and costs cards to deal with

[north brook]

Need to prep for bracket swap now

[hollow lagoon]

wood work?

[tropic summit]

@hollow lagoon example with nayuta B2 on basic CS% team wide

[tropic summit]

ye would survive nuke... you still gotta eat 3 palms in the face but should live it

moran if anything will win the duel if whole team is wiped during palms

[leaden canyon]

@tropic summit He shifted stuff around again

But guess what, t1 unchanged

[umbral crown]

@tropic summit guess i did the thing with my team from 8 months ago

72 levels gap

[leaden canyon]

@tropic summit thats what we got now

I guess I Rosana nuke t2 and just go and do noah biscuit vesti against his t3

[tropic summit]

these 2 teams are actually weak looking compared to previous attempts, ye you can probably handle both that way

just pad as needed avoid deficit on their rrh team

as for noah biscuit vestiTU on T3 place vestiTU in p4 and have a resistant p1 and p5

[leaden canyon]

Ros team is fine

[tropic summit]

21% deficit, you're used to worse i guess

should be a breeze for your vesti

[leaden canyon]

yeah worked out

[tropic summit]

he didn't put effort in this one

no triple threat indom... mere CP pad T3

either he's bored or running out of ideas

[umbral crown]

or not having a back up named Rail

[tropic summit]

considering the cooks he makes, he's very knowledgable on his own

i'm just a pleb with a burst gen sheet and playing tetris to fit CP

[umbral crown]

you just too good at it, i would never

[swift mango]

Moran Nero
You actually could use re-enter b1.

[swift mango]

Guess these fb are for the missing surface content.

Good enough

[umbral crown]

It was extended 1 day

But tonorrow will be gone

[swift mango]

Yeah, I still only get 4 rock in full burst day anyway. No better luck.

[umbral crown]

I got 6 today but 2 days ago was 0

Sometimes luck is not in my side

[swift mango]

Used 6 rocks to CP pad from 1 line, good enough.

[swift mango]

Just f up and hit change effect instead of upgrade gear.
2 rock flight away just like that.

Just wanted to upgrade the boots level

My luck today is shit now

[umbral crown]

Had to lock atk

[rustic sandal]

And once again...

I think this should guarantee a Top 10 spot.

[haughty mortar]

How am I looking?

I am thinking, swap teams 2 and 3?

Or this?

[oak hatch]

Siren probably dead in t1, and their siren would stun ur jackal or Noah if u use either teams

[oak hatch]

This looks better but need to make sure sbs gets indom, and move siren to p2 to stun their Noah

[haughty mortar]

Does Siren position really matter?

Swap Siren with bis?

[oak hatch]

Yeah ur siren only hits p1 from there but when she’s in p1-p2 she always stuns taunter

[oak hatch]

Should work probably

Maybe move helm to p5 so biscuit doesn’t risk getting killed by naga

[haughty mortar]

Can I try buildin a 3rd threat?

[haughty mortar]

She already there.

[oak hatch]

U already have scarlet there and im not familiar with non meta pvp characters so maybe can build a fast scarlet Trina comp there

[oak hatch]

Anything faster to replace ein?

[umbral crown]

how about:
skip team 1

for team 2: Scarlet/Blanc/Red Hood/Centi/Jackal

for team 3: Noah/Biscuit/HelmT/SnowHA/Rumani

your rh should live to burst against doro

[haughty mortar]

Lib?

[swift mango]

Oop I didn't see jackal

[umbral crown]

was about to say that

[haughty mortar]

So what's the final verdict?

[oak hatch]

Just go for the two wins

[umbral crown]

2 rl helm to nuke their link and scar to fight team 2 is the easiest way

[umbral crown]

could also change sbs for centi for more speed

[oak hatch]

Isn’t Noah wasted there with siren? In p4

[haughty mortar]

Should still be good right?

[umbral crown]

not really

when helm and snow are in the same team, it makes you avoid stun

[oak hatch]

Makes sense sw+ helm too fast

[swift mango]

Should be fine. ASS and Moran and Nayuta feed you to heaven

[haughty mortar]

AMEN BROTHA

[umbral crown]

just go

auto and hope for the best

[haughty mortar]

[swift mango]

Even 3rl wipe would still win against this team let alone 2rl.

[umbral crown]

team 3 has no protection so helm nuke gonna delete 3 units

and you will be lifestealing and maybe enough time for a 2nd burst with snow

[swift mango]

They would just die even if helmT doesn't kill.

Team can't live that long

[umbral crown]

i know , just in case you know

[haughty mortar]

Won. But man it took so long to load up! I was recording it too!

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/the-dark-knight-its-about-sending-a-message-joker-heath-ledger-the-joker-gif-18201880

save the ss in case you forget, you know how to counter it

[haughty mortar]

I have something better: The video!

[umbral crown]

the good way to win is going for 2 wins instead 3, for 3 wins you need more investment and cp

upload it

[haughty mortar]

I think I coulda done a triple kill

I wanna trim the fat on the video. The first 3 mins are literally just buffering

[umbral crown]

crop it to when the battle starts

[haughty mortar]

What's the best way to do that?

What do the cool kinds use nowadays?

OK found a tool gimme a few

2 large...............

[umbral crown]

you need nitro for that me thinks

[urban mulch]

or js trim it into separate vids if its too big

[swift mango]

Not MLB though.

Kind okay to use

[unique wagon]

Hello people

I guess the TL is delayed because we get Centi and Moran treasure

Perhaps they will help me finalize the TL

• SSS: These units are a must have either for attack or defense. Not owning them can lock you out of beating certain comps completely.
• SS: These units are strong. They have good burst gen or provide more value than units in lower tiers. You can still excel without them in SpA, but you need them in CA.
• S: These units are not as present as units in SS+, but they are generally more valuable than A. In this specific context, they have no alternatives. Units in S and below don't have guaranteed use in CA.
• A: These units are niche/situational, but are unique in their niche (no alternatives). On attack, they can be used to great success, but on defense, they act mostly as deterrent to limit enemy's team flexibility. They can also be replacements if you don't have better units. In CA, they often get used because they enable certain comps (and you can't modify your team to attack/defend), but value wise, usually they are not higher than S+.

[quick lake]

[raven plover]

damn lb2

so reech

[unique wagon]

• B: These units are replacements/situational only. They are not ideal to use for defense at all because they are easily counterable. On attack, they can still be powerful tools to defeat specific comps. Like A units, they can be used as replacements if you don't have better units, but they are not as common. You don't lose much from not owning them. If you know nothing about PvP, we highly recommend consulting experts before using any units in this tier.

• C: These units see nearly no use in CA or SpA. That doesn't mean they are not usable; they are just not as worth using as B+. That being said, you can still use them to success if you know what you're doing. If you know nothing about PvP, don't touch anyone here at all. Their use is much, much more specific.

[swift mango]

I won.🤏

[swift mango]

Then no units are SSS but Blanc and Noah. Maybe Biscuit.

Demote them all

[unique wagon]

Thats the tl now

[swift mango]

I mean Jackal, Helm, SW, Vesti to SS. Because you don't need them to beat any comp.

[unique wagon]

U sure?

[swift mango]

Yes

Give me a comp that I need them to beat.

[unique wagon]

But if u dont own all of them u cant beat anything

So the point still stands

Lets reverse logic this

[swift mango]

There are currently 7 units in your SSS right? Gimme any comp I could use just 3 units max of those to beat it on ATK.

You could actually lack all biscuit, Noah, Blanc and still win ATK

[unique wagon]

Say you don't have anyone in SSS

Now u cant beat all comps right
If you get 1 SSS units and it allows you to beat a certain meta comp, then it can be considered SSS

[swift mango]

Not really if you lack the B2 on SSS to be frank, you would be hard pressed to win AtK.

If you lacked the B3? No problem at all.

That's why no B3 can be SSS.

[unique wagon]

If you lack one, not all

SpA needs 3 teams, CA needs 5

[swift mango]

Yes, you can throw all SSS B3 away and still win ATK.

But if you got all your B3 SSS, and lack the B1-2 you still can't win.

[unique wagon]

That sounds very cooe

Anyway u can prove that

Oh can u win on DEFENSE though

[river dune]

These stats are good for base Scarlet right?

[swift mango]

You can't win on def if your opponent knows what they are doing.

The only way to win def in this game is if your opponent are idiots, doesn't know pvp or got deficited.

[unique wagon]

But can u prove u win on attack against someone who knows what they are doing, without ANY of Cindy, Scar, Emilia, TVesti, SWHA, Helm. Ok remove Cindy I accidentally typed her

[placid bloom]

you can win def if you get new unit and they don't

[swift mango]

Scar, Emi is SSS in your list now?

Okay I could do without them.

[unique wagon]

Not sure if we will demote them but maybe

[swift mango]

Gimme 3 team

[unique wagon]

Kuwon, can u make 3 def teams for me pls

[placid bloom]

Idk what older bracket use I only know some newer bracket team

which cannot get 3 team of 2RL

[unique wagon]

Just make a strong 2026 SpA team

[swift mango]

I could beat my C1 tomorrow without any of those 5 B3 if you wanted.

And post the video

[unique wagon]

But why are you not C1

[swift mango]

But his def isn't that good

[unique wagon]

Shu-

[swift mango]

He could beat my def and I use him to test team.

I could change my def but he is 50 level over me anyway so no point

[unique wagon]

Can u remove the SSS B3 units from ur def and see how far down u get

[tulip quest]

Dude that's insane much more in deficit

[swift mango]

Well, I'm talking no deficit here.

[gaunt pulsar]

@oak hatch i think he is out 01-22 last online

[unique wagon]

Ok im changing the wording to "beating certain comps (or being beaten by)"

[swift mango]

My HelmT my highest CP so I use her to not get deficit often. So does RH.

[placid bloom]

me guessing

[unique wagon]

Yeah u can beat that without SSS units

[tulip quest]

Even with no deficit it makes the defense increasingly harder if your opponents are knowledgeable in compositions, it's like Saying : "Hey my comps are weak attack me guys 🙂 tehee"