pvp-arena

[glad meteor]

[umbral crown]

i see pull issues

[glad meteor]

F2PBTW

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

My centi is core+5.

[umbral crown]

c2 here

blood with moran c7

[swift mango]

Nah just mlb

[umbral crown]

[glad meteor]

Moran going to give whole team 100% dmg reduction. It’s over

[umbral crown]

moran god tier

[swift mango]

I don't have the luck with Moran dupe

[umbral crown]

use your standar pulls

i recently got moran to C4

[swift mango]

It has been a year since I got her last dupe I think.

[umbral crown]

waos

bricked

[glad meteor]

up

[swift mango]

[glad meteor]

I forgot

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

Rail cooking

[raven plover]

time to use silver tick on moran instead of noah?

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta trina helmt bsoda rh
• jackal swha alice rumani blanc
• noah biscuit ein siren liberalio

Rookie

• swha helmt siren noah alice

Notes

• your utilities are mosty low invest, important to build up asap:
  biscuit, noah, jackal, trina, rumani, noise (aim for 4/4/4, 4OL, R15-SR5 doll)

================================

To answer ur question on jackal:

(1)

• she is one of the best batteries in the game, being clip RL but also enableing a "feed" system, based on bullet counts her and linked unis receive (linked units are the 2 highest atk% in that team when you enter battle, it's static and won't change during battle)

(2)

• linking allows distribution of dmg and receive feed, this is important also for indom purposes

(3)

• linking units ensures lowest HP in the link is generally indommed, under most conditions

================================

Your question on pvp guides/info:

• for PvP basic knowledge i suggest reading https://nikke.gg/arena-mechanics/
• once you're familiar with that, check the pvp core units guide here https://tinyurl.com/nikke-pvp-tierlist
• finally, play with burst gen to get familiar with speed https://nikke-deck.web.app/

[tulip quest]

Moran favorite item yey

[swift mango]

Nah I have her MLB while Noah lb1

[raven plover]

:dorowutdahel:

[swift mango]

Now send me the champ of your bracket.

[tulip quest]

wooooo

[polar valley]

Holy shit, thanks now i understand 100%

[tulip quest]

https://tenor.com/view/cr1tikal-penguinz0-meme-woo-yeah-baby-gif-19316511

Privaty Moran Centi 3 pvp characters

XD

[tropic summit]

are you kidding me... moran? how more broken do they've to make that unit

[tulip quest]

Yea I know im late im sorry

[tropic summit]

@covert lintel rejoice 15 seconds stun incoming

[tulip quest]

hahahaha stop

[silent torrent]

Woah, im blown away thxs for the insanely detailed answer i truly appreciate it ive no words. Thanks , i'll give those guides a look tomorrow since its really late where im at. Thanks once again

[swift mango]

Or the just buff her bugg

[tulip quest]

XCEPT i don't have dolls

[umbral crown]

thats the main topic rail, SU cooked this while you were away

[glad meteor]

Rosy going to c7 Moran

Get him rail

[umbral crown]

Me: wallet kun, we need to talk

[glad meteor]

No booli wallet kun

[umbral crown]

i know its kinda sudden but there is a thing we must do

[tropic summit]

not just rosy, the entire world is

[umbral crown]

CA will have an influx of C7 Morans

[tropic summit]

also dafuq is gonna zwei do, is this a pseudo ein treasure

[umbral crown]

now

we gonna have an Ein Treasure, Trust the process

[tulip quest]

cause Ein is stronk Zwei is MOTIVATED

https://tenor.com/view/vergil-motivation-devil-may-cry-gif-2364734360441336590

[umbral crown]

July is Ein month for treasure

[umbral belfry]

[umbral crown]

your moran C7?

[umbral belfry]

yes

as is centi, both sr15 already

[umbral crown]

hime did the thing already

[umbral belfry]

[umbral crown]

waos, strong

[umbral belfry]

stop

[umbral crown]

i imagine your moran is around 170k in CA

[umbral belfry]

171k

am f2p

[umbral crown]

waos

mine at C4 is 167k

[umbral belfry]

thats my wife!!

[umbral belfry]

whale

[umbral crown]

guess i need some more cores and better lines to catch up

[umbral crown]

thats what Kara said

[umbral belfry]

:k:

[umbral crown]

im just a pvp enjoyer

🇰

[glad meteor]

[umbral belfry]

🐟

[umbral crown]

compared to hime, im a koi

[umbral belfry]

fake news

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-gif-23265083

[tropic summit]

pvp casual

casually staying ch1 and nearly win CA

such silly casual dis rosy

[umbral crown]

we casual here

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/shiroha-naruse-9

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/wakatsuki-nico-1

[umbral crown]

Rail can confirm, fulll casual

Just trusting the process

[rustic sandal]

I'm gonna get cooked by whales soon enough.

[tulip quest]

Moran gonna be like SS or SSS in pvp in prydwen

[umbral crown]

Is not she SSS?

[fast nest]

Moran is already good. damn

What if treasure give her shield?

[tulip quest]

Or more defense so she only takes 1 damage per hit

cause that already happened to me sometimes XD Moran vs Moran 1 damage per hit

[raven plover]

what if.. moran reflect dmg like scar / nero

[fast nest]

Please add shield at lvl1 treasure so that pvper who don't read text be punished. Give enemy 1.25x burst gen

[tulip quest]

Nero ady proved to be good, and Moran has 3 Mini lives that's gonna be POG

[spark granite]

This person has used their boxes to be 33 levels above me. What would be the best way to beat these teams?

[tropic summit]

post this matchup

T1

• noah biscuit cindy helmt rumani (need 2701k CP)

T2

• jackal vestiTU blanc centi helm (need 2661k CP)

T3
skip

to confirm CP

[spark granite]

I see helm in both teams

[tropic summit]

ye i need to know CP

[spark granite]

Ooh

[tropic summit]

helmT in cindy team can be flexed as needed

assuming you've quantum 7, you can post this already in case

[tropic summit]

ok both would be in range, sub helmt in T1 with SWHA and let's see how it shifts

also confirm if you've quantum 7

[spark granite]

I’m quantum 9

Will be 10 by Union raid day 1

[tropic summit]

nice more than enough

now show other team with helmT, after that only 1 more check to run

[rustic sandal]

PvP next season reset.

[tropic summit]

@spark granite

for T1:

cubes:
noah quantum
biscuit vigor
cindy any
swha quantum
rumani quantum

(quantum is important here, you need be 2RL to deny part of their dmg)

for T2:

cubes
jackal quantum
vestiTU tempering
blanc vigor
centi quantum (if available, else any)
helmT tempering

HP and link is important here, ensure:

• vestiTU has lower HP than jackal and helmT
• ensure vestiTU and helmT are linked (based on the units there, it should be default)

to check HP and link, run in shooting range, enter battle, pause, check units HP and if jumping jackal buff is active on helmT and vestiTU

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/what-the-hell-did-you-just-say-natsuki-subaru

[upbeat dock]

damn, i guess we bank resources until they release the deets on fav items right.. good thing i didn't OL Rumani yet, can put it into Centi instead if she turns out to be good

[tropic summit]

you gonna need both, but do get centi first if her treasure is gamebreaking

[spark granite]

This is the end results and ya jackal is linked to helm and vesti

[tropic summit]

CP is good, did you put quantum and checked HP on vestiTU and helmT?

[spark granite]

Yes I checked and they are linked and put the cubes that you said

[tropic summit]

what about HP?

[spark granite]

Vigor cube?

[tropic summit]

the lazy way is to put vigor on helmT ye, but you'd prefer tempering as you're taking SG dmg in p5

if you don't mind check HP and ensure vestiTU has less, else run with vigor on helmT

[spark granite]

Oh ya helm has tempering and I can check hp

[tropic summit]

enter shooting range battle, click on vestiTU and helmT, check HP upon entering (without vigor on helmT)

[tropic summit]

ok vestiTU is lower HP regardless of vigor, put tempering on helmT, you're then good to go

[spark granite]

No vigor cube both have tempering

The first team lost because nayuta lived long enough to kill Cindy, team 2 was amazing though

[tropic summit]

did you record?

[spark granite]

Yes I’ll dm

[tropic summit]

oh wow

that's a well built nayuta

[keen vapor]

Change your subtitle

[tropic summit]

good point

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

change cindy team to this

let's recheck CP then you good to go

noise vigor
rumani quantum
cindy tempering
swha tempering/any
noah quantum

[swift mango]

[keen vapor]

Change subtitle

[swift mango]

[keen vapor]

Next batch is in July

[tropic summit]

12,6% deficit, in range

[keen vapor]

Good lord, whale territory

[swift mango]

[keen vapor]

Why I have Zwei Boots

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/kick-boot-gif-11217168

[keen vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177116972593463316/1441497155465515008/1026322546934698004.gif

[tropic summit]

why the boots when a lot of other clothing is available

you settle for too little, young man

[tropic summit]

a world too unfamiliar to us common mortals

[severe dawn]

Hello 🤗
The only important thing to remember in this table is Second Shot Onwards column, isn’t it?

[tropic summit]

ye in most uses cases it is

[severe dawn]

Then what is the point of the First Shot column?

[tropic summit]

when on very high deficit

as in, above 26-30%

at that point being hit may change a lot of things

[severe dawn]

Can you give an example 🤔?

[tropic summit]

at that high deficit minimun amount of dmg on non invulnerable or non indommed unit can be lethal

[eager mountain]

moran centi T...

[covert lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/ikuzo-temerra-high-low-the-worst-gangster-school-teenager-gif-23872629

https://tenor.com/view/kung-fu-panda-gif-24482421

Should i finally 101010 her?

[tropic summit]

this man scares me

now he legit gonna have a reason to privaty

[covert lintel]

I used her in SR all this time

[tropic summit]

@vapid lake @shell hazel what is this adorable creature and where do I buy one

damn they really cooked in this game

[vapid lake]

Don't let tibi see her

[tropic summit]

@eager mountain wake up fam, time to play arknights

[strong hull]

Rail-chan

[tropic summit]

Thien ma dude

[strong hull]

Neko atsume

[eager mountain]

i likely would if it goes down the snowbreak path and i dropped one of my games... likely nik

[tropic summit]

ehhh going down the snowbreak path would be something else

but ye too many gachas are harmful

[eager mountain]

i mean adorable creature can be one of my tastes just that nik usually fails me when it comes to other tastes... usually ruined by z cups

[quick lake]

oh my lord, treasures are here

[tropic summit]

privaty centi and moran, 3 pvp units

inb4 they fix zwei dual burst gen and make her into clip SG

[quick lake]

I did not expect Centi or Moran

[vapid lake]

PVP treasures, i sleep

[tropic summit]

moran is so uneeded, how much stronger do they need to make her when she's already unique in her role

[quick lake]

That’s kind true too

PLEASE make her scale on DEF

[eager mountain]

lib hype cant last forever...
tho union is also holding me from quitting lol...

[vapid lake]

Join me in factoryland

[eager mountain]

shouldve stayed in a random union so that i wont need to hesitate when quitting, sigh

[covert lintel]

Idk why SU always speedrun pvp char

[quick lake]

U know why? Because CA beta gonna end

new ca mode surely

[eager mountain]

ig its a w for lib

[upper grove]

hexacodes and rocks from CA rewards?

[vapid lake]

My factory

[tropic summit]

dayum

[eager mountain]

its beene beta for too long and ppl dead*ss investing based on "beta" meta
if they making major changes to ca then lmao...

[quick lake]

Bless, devs actually scrapped Surface Content

Give us 50rocks air drop please

New CA game mode will
give us 1 rock for each CA rank

[gaunt pulsar]

1 rock for each champ frame because you will have to recycle it for it, silver/bronze/gold would only give credits

[eager mountain]

so su knows its unredeemable

[quick lake]

At least they are aware

[eager mountain]

su better have something for sb2, not like i played sb but thats where niks resources went to

oh and zweiT just gonna be harranT
source: trust me

[quick lake]

ZweiT gonna be more SW copium nuke team

[eager mountain]

back then we only have like 1 chara viable for pvp every 2-3 months or so

and now we getting these every single month or even every single update

[quick lake]

now we getting pvp unit galore

my gems

[eager mountain]

so my take is to never invest niche ca units based on current pacing, they might became more relevant in the future if meta shift in their favor, but chances are they gonna get powah creep'd

unless u wanna be da chef

[gaunt pulsar]

wonder what they gonna do for privaty 3sec stun on burst could be nice to stop enemy b3, that is if she gets other useful properties

[eager mountain]

she becomes a b1 when team doesnt have b1 like rhh

there we go even more absurd then helmT changes

[shell hazel]

can't wait for this one

but I note no Marciana :9

[tropic summit]

common sense won here, incredible.
then again it was obvious to anyone that it sucked dry balls

[gaunt pulsar]

Maintenance Period
⏳ 1/29 11:00 ~ 15:00 (UTC+9)

is this before new CA starts?

i think it is, or on the same day

[eager mountain]

being h0rny makes her look more intelligent indeed

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/moran-nikke-nikke-goddess-of-victory-gif-15958302663300684403

if they scrap surface how will I get more rocks? 😄

[eager mountain]

its a w that no more surface dailies for the rock race
no rocks for u and no rocks for em

[shell hazel]

0.5 rocks and some gear xp per day on the beta were welcome

we need that more permanently imo

[gaunt pulsar]

they said they plan to distribute it through other means while they stalling implementing surface content so might see increased rock income through other content

[eager mountain]

annual ex raid with hundereds of rocks...

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit he made new teams again

[gaunt pulsar]

or full burst day for a whole year

[tropic summit]

should work the same, you're stalling xmaiden indom on your p1, then gotta tank a few shoots with around 5s of indom left

t1 is still 2RL and your vesti is ideal to deal with it

[warm monolith]

Oke, t1 stays the same

What else

[tropic summit]

t2 stays the same, as i said above you're gonna tank xmaiden indom

you should be killing both vestiTU and lappy

even if lappy gets indom it's an xmaiden B3, so they're stuck on p1

[warm monolith]

Then im running this

[tropic summit]

ye should work

[warm monolith]

Oke thanks.

[tropic summit]

you might wanna record at least T2, in case they've changed CS%

T1 should stay consistent

[swift mango]

I guess because they can't turn surface content into clash of clan they just gave up?

[warm monolith]

Both won. I can still share the footage if you still want

[gaunt pulsar]

temporary postponed the implementation was their wording which i guess means - rn reworking it is too much work

[swift mango]

At best 4 extra allowance every months. The way the word it.

[tropic summit]

oh you don't need to, i guess they didn't change CS%

probably went as i told you earlier, xmaiden/lappy got stuck on p1 for a while then you finished them off

[fathom rock]

Wutdahel moran

As if she ain't broken enough

[glad meteor]

that’s what I’m saying

[warm monolith]

Im just wondering what buff theyll give it to her

[eager mountain]

casually 7x her gen like helmT

[shell hazel]

[swift mango]

It's because you guys refuse to make her SSS that SU had to intervene

[gaunt pulsar]

b1 re-enter take it or leave

[warm monolith]

Nah, if they wouldve made those big of buffs then why was Bay buffs was mid

[eager mountain]

wont expect big buffs

also bay buffs wasnt mid, its literal dumpster fire

[hollow lagoon]

Moran Centi treasure

Holy

Privity treasure

Doro team back?

[gaunt pulsar]

sanis one

[tropic summit]

we going full 2024

[eager mountain]

doro needs more then just a dedicated buffer to be bottomline viable again

[hollow lagoon]

U mean b1 dps

She don’t buff bro

She only got part damage for team

[eager mountain]

need of a trina-like buffer doesnt imply that she buffs if that makes sense

https://tenor.com/view/sour-lemon-poputepipikku-lick-pop-team-epic-gif-16566362

[fathom rock]

Then they proceed to make a arcana and suddenly that changes

[hollow lagoon]

If they change the part damage to attack damage up or just attack up she be back to top

Or just actually make doro do so much damage she don’t need to be a buffer

[fathom rock]

Increase attack damage by 90% for all allies and adds 5sec cdr when using a water b1 rifle in leftmost position

Pls don't make privaty a dps

[eager mountain]

more like increase leftmost water b1 ar atk by 690% alongside cdr

690% should do

300% would still be literally useless lol

[fathom rock]

No way man

[eager mountain]

also doro nuke ignores most buffs

[hollow lagoon]

For solo raid museum

Man blue train green storm bringer tf

Moran Centi treasures are W tho

[eager mountain]

elem is ignored, atk dmg prob also ignored, fb bonus ignored, crits also ignored... seems like only atk counts
donno if dmg taken debuff counts or not, but even if so the said buff might need to last post-fb for it to even work

[hollow lagoon]

b1 or b2 or gasp b3

[swift mango]

Unless she had unexpected skill like Soline s2, she would be useless for arena.

[hollow lagoon]

Prob still useful in bed

[glad meteor]

[hollow lagoon]

Could just be a damage taken but for wind~ ergo kick Mmast out of pure wind comp

Is my own speculation anyway

Just give her some noir like tech for ammo management and Tis done

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

Moran treasure salad stronker?

[hollow lagoon]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6S9aeozFQrY

Why is texts in Chinese

Holy crap it’s not on NIKKE EN, the China version gets updates before us

Oh nvm it’s in shorts

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

Bro I just realized

It’s another tetra sniper

[vapid lake]

i just learnt that in funny factory game u can move the factory hub tower around

[tropic summit]

better late than never?

[vapid lake]

iv'e been designing my factories assuming that tower was stuck in that spot and cant be moved, im gonna have to tear everything down and start again

[swift mango]

make her nuke 999% x 99 times

the rest of the skill can be skipped

[shell hazel]

got enough dupes to treasure any of them at least, which wouldn't be true if it was like nero lmao

[shell hazel]

question for ye - I can make more stuff than I can sell, how do I up the rate of valley credits for facilitating more sales? ;9

[swift mango]

I finally have a usable SW after 150-200 rocks

This is why I don't invest in pve

[quick lake]

I think Priv treasure will be more PvE, off burst buffing. maybe make SAnis Priv comp viable again

[raven plover]

damn you guys have 150 roks

[quick lake]

Stunning longer than 3s kinda OP

I have 1.5 rock

[raven plover]

1.5k wtf rheax

[quick lake]

No, 1 and a half rock

[swift mango]

He is lucky enough, 15% CS each Nikke with around 20 rocks

Or less

[swift mango]

Okay so u also broke

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/report-calling-the-police-im-disturbed-gif-14028290

[glad meteor]

Stun 8 seconds. Sw bye bye

[quick lake]

Very broke. I needa UR and PvP

[quick lake]

exactly

[glad meteor]

solace gon

[quick lake]

[tropic summit]

why stop at 8 if you can make it 15

[strong hull]

[tropic summit]

stun also carries over next round

[glad meteor]

Residual stun

[shell hazel]

[raven plover]

wtf

stun carries over to rookie

[latent bobcat]

how to beat this team?

[tropic summit]

jackal vestiTU helmt siren noah

[latent bobcat]

thanks i will give it a shot

[swift mango]

stun carries over to the next battle you make tomorrow.

carries over to CA too

[tropic summit]

carries over then to SR

[swift mango]

make boss stun 100 seconds for each second carried over

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

My Centi is very ready for her treasure.

[tropic summit]

@swift mango so many years later and still no cure

[lunar pawn]

moran and centi getting fav item

zwei should still be useless, and privaty might see the light of day again

[swift mango]

I would like to refer to it as parallel world because if it's actually future then Arknight story would be useless.

[swift mango]

In before Zwei x4 her burst gen

[lunar pawn]

her only use will be a glorified battery

[swift mango]

That's better than HelmT

[lunar pawn]

thelm, the best nikke in the game?

are you ok?

[swift mango]

X4 Zwei burst gen is 56% in 2rl

[lunar pawn]

if you'll strictly talk about a potential burst gen improvement only, sure

[swift mango]

56% on 2rl and she would be best Arena unit

SG shooting much faster than RL

[lunar pawn]

again, burst gen wise, sure

but overall thelm is unbeatable

they haven't released something this OP since crown

and maybe redpi ig

[swift mango]

Helm is mostly for burst gen in Arena.

[lunar pawn]

overall

[swift mango]

Many peeps don't even use Helm in Campaign now.

[lunar pawn]

"many peeps" being what, 50 people vs the millions of players nikke has?

[swift mango]

Mmast de-crown her. Only people who don't invest much in PvE like me still use her

[lunar pawn]

crown mmast is only really usable if you mald + better for bosses only

[swift mango]

No like majority of the lowest CP.

[lunar pawn]

lowest cp clears will use any unholy combo just to ensure they have the lowest cp

not because it's the best team lol

[swift mango]

Mmast is actually best for Campaign now. When you don't need healing.

Could just @ experts malders like @vapid lake
@pale knoll

[lunar pawn]

also when you don't need to survive by bursting fast

exactly, you need to mald with her, while thelm can clear the exact same stage with no malding, and potentially on auto

[swift mango]

They manually play so a RH or sth is bursting fast enough.

[swift mango]

Actually if you wanted to auto

Carrier+Crown+Siren+Helm+MMast

Are good enough.

It's RH b1 that got kicked out.

[lunar pawn]

siren crown is a given, then just thelm as offburst, redpi as b3, and a flex b3 (varies according to element)

can power through almost all stages except bosses

flex b3 can be RH as well if you get those stages where you die if you don't crown burst in the first 2-3 seconds

[swift mango]

The best auto campaign the for me is

Rapipi+Crown+RH+Siren+HelmT

But ofc Mmast could replace RH for those who had the CP.

Siren actually love MG.

That's why Mmast is meta in campaign now

[lunar pawn]

I don't really get stuck in non boss stages anymore

[swift mango]

On boss stage the lowest clear still use Mmast morr

[lunar pawn]

well yea, you gotta specialize your team for bosses, thelm won't be the no brain choice 100% of the time

[swift mango]

So what is better for snake?

[swift mango]

But mast is

I think I will come back for snake after I level 15 my tempering

And pad my Anchor a little

Her body is 1 line.

[hollow lagoon]

Just pass it bro

To think is to doubt

Also I used sbs, universe is prob a lot easier with swha

[swift mango]

My Manchor is 777, basic OL only 7 lines and sr5

[hollow lagoon]

My anchor was

8/8/8basic ol?

And 8 lines

She’s ol level 3 now cuz ziz

Boi she a lot of hit rate, extra accurate RL

[shell hazel]

strong anchor

I think yours had rolling advice from my xlud

[hollow lagoon]

[glad meteor]

Wutdahel

[shell hazel]

yup it was easily my worst rolled initial OL ever lol

[umbral crown]

[hollow lagoon]

[tulip quest]

Sdoro is goated on Snake with SNOW H.A shud be easier

[swift mango]

My crown was like this too.

And label

And grave

And mast

[shell hazel]

I need to go back and fix lib rolls one day just looks expensive

[swift mango]

My Label stopped here.

Maybe I would need 2 more atk

Wasted like 12 rocks for that line 1 AtK.

It was hit rate

[onyx scaffold]

imagine moran burst becomes 20 sec

[hollow lagoon]

my sdoro was so bad by the time i got there

[swift mango]

I would throw tomato at SU if it was the only change

[hollow lagoon]

qeq was a stronger water dps than my sdoro fro a whillllle

[onyx scaffold]

she is already broken.. hold on
worth c7 moran with silver?

[shell hazel]

we need to see how kit is

[swift mango]

If you already c7 Noah you could do whatever

[onyx scaffold]

dude. she is meta without the treasure

[onyx scaffold]

my c5 noah is killed pre-burst by vesti ada

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

Don't put her p1-2

Without protection then

[onyx scaffold]

moran p1 noah p2

who should be p2? LB0 vesti? -. -

[swift mango]

Then it should be 2rl team with high CS

[strange linden]

I just saw the treasure sneek peak, good thing my moran is already SR15 lol
I wonder what they'll do for centi

[hollow lagoon]

my c7 noah lives most of the matches except full absolute comp version vesti

[swift mango]

You don't meet whale with more research level and rocks for Ele than you.

[hollow lagoon]

i did

my noah lived

so it is

[swift mango]

Check the guy if he crited or had 90% ele

[hollow lagoon]

tbf it was only a core 6 vesti i suppose

[swift mango]

On vesti

[swift mango]

[hollow lagoon]

but my noah had good 20% hp left

[swift mango]

My nikke sorted by Ele

Barely passable.

For campaign

[raven plover]

way better than me

[keen vapor]

More shield

[strange linden]

seperate shield like crown/Tia
not sure if that's useful in PvP

I don't think they'll buff a lot Moran too, she's already so good

[swift mango]

200rock

[umbral crown]

Thats me

[swift mango]

Ah you mean your whole list? Post it then

[umbral crown]

[hollow lagoon]

o missed the first few ones

how is my label highest ele

[umbral crown]

Hows rosa 18 atk

[swift mango]

It's because you don't go for 4 Ele lines. But I have way less units at 60% and I started 1 year earlier

[umbral crown]

[hollow lagoon]

no rocks

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

My 60% stopped at siren on the first image

[hollow lagoon]

op

[raven plover]

200 roks each?

[raven plover]

[swift mango]

The 80% plus? Aside from SBS yes

[swift mango]

Yeah everyone has more Ele than me if you counted 55% up

[raven plover]

wtf I do like 60 each dps and never look back only sbs and alice went to 100+ without good results

[raven plover]

nah overall dps you still win my ele went to supports

[swift mango]

Show the rest of you list then, not just the first page

Show it until it reach 45%

[swift mango]

Where's AtK?

[hollow lagoon]

she self buffs, its fine you assume i would gib mroe than 1 rock for her/

[swift mango]

I want her to have more AtK than atker with 3-4atk lines

[hollow lagoon]

u want her to get linked with jackal>

interesting

[swift mango]

I want her to eat Rosa dispel

[loud orbit]

how much has the new snow white shifted pvp meta? Is the recommended rookie arena defense team still jackal blanc biscuit vesti: TU and HelmT? does the new sp arena defense 3 teams have 1 team centered around snow white?

[swift mango]

Vesti is still the better dps yeah

[loud orbit]

so rookie arena def team is still vesti TU then

[swift mango]

But u could replace Helm with her

[loud orbit]

is that just dependent on how built they are? both are built for me but helm has max dupes

[swift mango]

SW partially counter Rosa

[loud orbit]

i see i see

[swift mango]

Not really important but it's there

[raven plover]

sry just finished 1 HoK game

wtf its so blurry

[swift mango]

I guess we have similar Ele investment then. But you don't invest Ele at all even for Campaign and AI.

So mine was better

[raven plover]

:caught:

Im wall of bricks

[swift mango]

I guess you used rock for CS and ATK then

[raven plover]

gonna keep sw at 20% atk so ros target label

[swift mango]

My ATK

Try yours

[shell hazel]

why da hell is my RH the highest ele lol

[swift mango]

Down to 25%

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/zenitsu-running-away-run-anime-demon-slayer-gif-17734736

[swift mango]

I'm sure you have tons of 40% then.

[onyx scaffold]

how many sec can priv stun rn

[swift mango]

3

[raven plover]

nah not much just 9

[swift mango]

Then tons of 30%

[raven plover]

[onyx scaffold]

hmmm. i think it is safe to get SR15 for diesel and brid now
i wont have enough mats to fav all centi moran priv anyway

[swift mango]

Wtf is this logic?

[onyx scaffold]

wdym. i cannot get priv treasure soon. no point in saving kits for her

moran is already sr15
centi is sr10

raid is in 3 days

[swift mango]

Brid and Diesel kits suck. So check other units kits first should be the norm.

Ah you mean the Christmas ones...

[onyx scaffold]

ofc

[swift mango]

But they don't require sr15 at all.

[shell hazel]

I still need to treasure Miranda - from R-0

[swift mango]

Do it in 80 blue like @gritty ridge

[tulip quest]

why does helmT not have CS Heresy

[swift mango]

I had to trade 11% AtK from ReiT for Ammo here .

[swift mango]

She has 4 lines. It just doesn't show

[tulip quest]

Shud I post mine also?

[swift mango]

Post you bracket champ teams

[tulip quest]

oh that I forgot

I can look at it

I lost interest cause I lost op 32

Rossana sniped my SNOW

[gritty ridge]

Chat what should I run as t3 here

[swift mango]

That Rosa must have high ele

[glad meteor]

[swift mango]

Why Noah p1
Just scar Trina for team 3 then

[glossy sierra]

I need a third team. Idk what to run though that has decent burst gen. Btw is sbs a good burst generator

[gritty ridge]

I dont wanna give extra feed by taunting to p2

Its siren proof anyway

[swift mango]

I guess it's fine if you had enough CS on vesti

[gritty ridge]

Yeap

Scar rosa t3?

[swift mango]

I mean 5 screenshot of hit 5 teams

[gritty ridge]

Nikke-deck is the builder you should use, it has every nikke listed in order of burst gen. For now just run your 5 strongest for t3

[tulip quest]

Scar Rap, SG Rossa Alzheimers Girl, Vesti blanc Ada, Noah Lib Cookie, Nayuta goes BRRRR

[gritty ridge]

What? Theyre good teams i think

[glad meteor]

I was reacting to hippos

Miranda booli

[gritty ridge]

Ah ok

[fathom rock]

Rail bro you ok

[tulip quest]

DYNO WHY

[gritty ridge]

Noise link should protect from rosa right?

[glad meteor]

Not really

[swift mango]

2 comment 4 image limit each comment

[fathom rock]

Rosa remove link

[glad meteor]

Maybe noise burst can help tank

[gritty ridge]

It does, but ill still be 2rl

[glad meteor]

But doubt it

[gritty ridge]

Im hoping noise burst will keep snow alive

[fathom rock]

Linking isn't really why a noise comp would live

Against ross

[gritty ridge]

Its extra feed to make sure noise bursts before rosa

[swift mango]

Thank you

[tulip quest]

Hahaha nope Noise burst 1st snow still dies

[gritty ridge]

Why

[tulip quest]

it's my C.A life

[gritty ridge]

Make your noise stronger

[tulip quest]

I assume high atk n ele rosa

[gritty ridge]

Thats alot to assume of a random player tbh

[shell hazel]

the factory must expand

[glad meteor]

2 rl Rosa with p1-2 pressure like laplap should be enough

But can just run slow indom

[glossy sierra]

tysm, but what does the lightning sign mean at the bottom left of the character? is it charge speed ?

[glad meteor]

[gritty ridge]

Yes, that means you have the cs% breakpoint

Assume 15% for rl 11% for sniper

Vesti is 5% emi has her own inputs on their

[swift mango]

Or her crit

[glossy sierra]

vesti genuinely a godsend

[gritty ridge]

Well I mean, no team is unbeatable im just trying to make it harder

[gritty ridge]

Vesti is probably the best pvp unit atm

[glad meteor]

I see

[tulip quest]

late but here you go

by Ele

[glossy sierra]

Wait why is cinderella's burst generation so low ? I thought she was rl unit

[tulip quest]

Her RL is multi hit mini lazerr

pew pew pew

[lunar pawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-MW5XwtHeo mast doko

[tulip quest]

RL special

[gritty ridge]

Cindy is an automatic rl, they lowered her gen as compensation

[swift mango]

Well, when Manchor and survival are needed mast isnt used. Just like snake

[pastel horizon]

help i need to update my defense teams

[lunar pawn]

only no brain choice nikke in pve is crown, and maybe siren

[swift mango]

Actually they would use maid mast instead of Crown when duo with Manchor

Crown is fine but not need

[lunar pawn]

and tbh if you're bringing mmast to a fight, you could probably clear it with thelm as well since it won't be a hard fight if you're not healing, you'll just mald harder

<@&946725432554836008>

oh they rank mods now

<@&1450788368702111765> you guys got any power

[tulip quest]

can we please ban this scammers?

[glossy sierra]

damn yall have like synchro 600+

[gritty ridge]

Mods who do we ping for scammers

Ourple or the bleue

[lunar pawn]

the rank is a mouthful, by the time we finish typing the guy scammed 20 people

[gritty ridge]

I wanna ping the mods for a request but I dont wanna get banned for 500 years

[steel urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/both-nolosdos-why-dont-we-have-both-brilliant-gif-4553911

[gritty ridge]

A mod

[gritty ridge]

Can I make a request of you
👉 👈

[glossy sierra]

This seems good

[steel urchin]

For me?

sure, shoot

[gritty ridge]

Can we increase the image limit to 5 pretty pls

Thats how many teams are in CA, it makes things alot easier

[steel urchin]

I think that would be a request better directed to modmail, as then the actual people who can change those settings can see and decide.

[gritty ridge]

T3 isnt terrible, but it is vesti food. Also its important to factor cp into your teams as its the single most important stat in pvp

[gritty ridge]

Okeydokey

[glossy sierra]

well, I am like 4-5 levels below my competition since i'm like challengers 8-5, so I can't really out cp them

btw why is the challengers 4 guy like 40 levels above me

[gritty ridge]

That just happens

Whales and the like

4-5 levels isnt bad tho

And 40 is workable

[glossy sierra]

can I really win at like 50k+ deficit ?

[gritty ridge]

Yes

[glad meteor]

What matters more is the % difference

15.41% difference is where you start to get a stat penalty

[glossy sierra]

Ok you were right

[glossy sierra]

Wait it's different from campaign types of deficit ?

[gritty ridge]

It is

Its also much harsher than campaign penalty

[glossy sierra]

I've learnt a lot today

[gritty ridge]

[glossy sierra]

is 80 levels workable though

no right ?

[gritty ridge]

On rare occasions

With the right invests

[glossy sierra]

I don't think I have enough resource to upgrade my pvp units to be able to beat that

[gritty ridge]

Fair enough

It does take away from your pve invests

[glossy sierra]

I kinda wonder if I made the right call though, I kinda slowed down my progress a bit on the campaign in order to upgrade units for pvp. more specifically I didn't max out the OL gear for my RRH and stuff, and also wasted some rocks so the lines on my OL gears aren't that great either

[swift mango]

At campaign deficit you don't need to heal because they one shot you from full hp anyway.

[gritty ridge]

Getting a consistent challenger spot will benefit you in the long run

[glossy sierra]

ight, yipee

[lunar pawn]

true, but the buffs+burst gen are juicy enough

[gritty ridge]

Dont put too much effort into pvp tho, make sure you do good in campaign

[lunar pawn]

saying that in #pvp-arena ?

https://tenor.com/view/we-dont-do-that-here-black-panther-tchalla-bruce-gif-16558003

[gritty ridge]

I say it nicely compared to rail

Its also kinda late for him to make the switch to pvp, at that sync he most likely has some solid raid invests

[glad meteor]

If they dont ol their nikkes and have poop teams. You can even beat like 150 plus

[glossy sierra]

Well, the issue is that these top 3 players are whales and their stuff is genuinely cracked out

[glad meteor]

Yep, thats whales

[lunar pawn]

making it to top 10 should be like the breakpoint to balance things out, as in, work on your pve progress too

[gritty ridge]

Thats what I said

[glossy sierra]

Am I bricked btw if I am at chapter 40 in normal campaign and 19 in hard at level 390

[gritty ridge]

Dont go by level

Go by sync

[glossy sierra]

sync 305

[gritty ridge]

You could probably push to ch 24 in hm

[lone sequoia]

push your outpost lvls, you should clear campaign around 30~35% deficit, 40~45% is a bit more harder

[glossy sierra]

I thought 25% was already really difficult

dang

[lone sequoia]

depends on the units you have... but for meta units +40% is the norm since ssrapi

[glad meteor]

Nesso

[glossy sierra]

I think I have the most meta team for campaign?

Vesti Thelm Crown Siren SSRapi

[lone sequoia]

for bosses... is all on the brand new unit (at the time)+ manchor (probably) every skills of the new bosses oneshot

[gritty ridge]

Do i have dementia?! I swear im typing messages

[lone sequoia]

hi

[glad meteor]

[glossy sierra]

I'm already challenger 4, what else could me more pvp coded than that

[lone sequoia]

i still use scarlet in my campaign team xd

[gritty ridge]

CA invests

[glossy sierra]

Is it even possible to get to CA as f2p

[gritty ridge]

Yes

[glad meteor]

Just depends on your bracket tbh

[gritty ridge]

C1-C4 get in

And yeah, heavily depends on bracket

[lone sequoia]

but should be something like.... crown-nayuta/siren-ssrapi (b1)/ssrapi(b3)/swha (2nd dps)/helmT(burst-flex)

[glossy sierra]

This might be possible, hmmm

[glad meteor]

In some brackets. Theres f2p that just sit in c1

[glossy sierra]

as in points right ?

[lone sequoia]

you have to be lucky with your bracket, earlier sub-servers are full of whales

[gritty ridge]

I run crown vesti rh rrh siren

I am one of 7 whales in my top 10

[glossy sierra]

Brackets of doom and despair or smth ?

[glossy sierra]

7 whales what ?

[gritty ridge]

Brother is that 2 people over sync 400

[glossy sierra]

you da real bracket of doom and despair

[glad meteor]

Cooked

[gritty ridge]

Double leviathan is terrible

[lone sequoia]

is not that bad compared to all in the same union

[gritty ridge]

Yeah, only me and c1 are in the same union(ish)

[lone sequoia]

day 1* f2p players are around 661~700 sync but these whales are +800~900 sync

[glad meteor]

Ready for new treasures?

[glossy sierra]

tbf I'm mostly here for story and collection purposes, so extra gems are nice but it's ok if I'm not the best

[lone sequoia]

you have a dupe problem, we are in the same team

[glossy sierra]

?

[lone sequoia]

3/4 already... zwei is naked

[glad meteor]

[lone sequoia]

low dupes count- no mlb or cores compared to other people

[gritty ridge]

We have the list?

[glad meteor]

Yes

[gritty ridge]

Where

[glossy sierra]

how could you even tell ?

[glad meteor]

Moran
Centi
Zwei
Privaty

[gritty ridge]

Moran

[glossy sierra]

man has it better than me 😭

[gritty ridge]

Shes lb0

[gritty ridge]

I did say I was one of the whales

[glad meteor]

Be like @umbral crown c7 her with silvers

[gritty ridge]

No im doing that to noise

[lone sequoia]

about you or the rest? your team is 2 dupes (2 lb1 and 3 lb0) of a potential 50 value, most of the units in my bracket are max core (enemy teams) my units are lb0~mlb after 3 years some a bit more but value of 10~20 against 45~50 of enemies

[gritty ridge]

Priv is mlb, centi is mlb, zwei is mlb, moran is lb0

[glossy sierra]

I barely understand XD

Tbf I can't expect much since I'm f2p

my helm is C4 though

[lone sequoia]

for cp you have to count your OL piece with tier from 1 to 15 for each line for a total of 45(ele dmg is like 20% more per line); for units or teams are 1~10 unit for a total of 50 (dupes)

[glossy sierra]

that 300 extra points they gave me was a blessing

[glossy sierra]

ok I get it now

anyways I'm doing some david vs goliath type of stuff so wish me luck ig

[river dune]

Would I be able to beat this?

[hybrid fox]

One more reason to hate PvP

[gritty ridge]

You could siren vesti wipe pretty easily

[hybrid fox]

My Nikke stuck loading after 1 Spvp round

[lone sequoia]

lets say you get a piece with the average 11.81%atk-def and 23.xx ele dmg, the value of that piece is tier 11 for atk (of 1~15 potential)- tier 11 for def and tier 11 for ele dmg so you have a piece with 33/45 in this case one is ele dmg so you get a bit more compared to other stat in that line

[gritty ridge]

Wait nvrmind

Im dumb again

Anyways just indom bestie smh

[glad meteor]

Depends if their nayuta can kill

[umbral crown]

[glad meteor]

Blanc should be safer

[gritty ridge]

Scar into nayu is a nogo

[glossy sierra]

Alright so OL=CP
High stats=more CP
Me not have high stats
Therefore me low CP, got it

[gritty ridge]

I was wrong, baby red shoes isnt mlb

[glossy sierra]

Same with cores

[river dune]

Some battles in the past I die cause of Nayuta

[lone sequoia]

noise/siren for scar, just stun helm and you win

wait

helm is p5 xd, my bad

just noise b1 ez

[gritty ridge]

Yeah I made a similar mistake lol

[glossy sierra]

btw how do I counter blanc+Harm white teams ?

[gritty ridge]

Harm white

Rosa

[glossy sierra]

heavy arm+snow white=harm white

I have great naming sense thank you

[gritty ridge]

I call her heavy snow

[lone sequoia]

depends in the sub-dps, you can fight indom (with bit slower team and sustain) or just speed check and nuke them, you can also use siren for stun in case of blanc p1, or heavy dmg snipe with vesti/rosanna if she have the atk lines

[lunar pawn]

check lowest clears for where you're stuck at, compare cp and decide whether you're bricked or not by yourself

[onyx scaffold]

He is bricked. I can tell it

[gritty ridge]

Dee in pvp chat

[lunar pawn]

[glossy sierra]

bricked up yh

[river dune]

This is one of those who I won't immediately be able to treasure,Privaty and Centi would be the easiest treasure them the moment they get there, and the other one is in the same boat as Zwei,of the old one's only Bay is left since got her to 1 lb,not even 2 so no bond 30

[gritty ridge]

Rip your lobby screen for no bay

[glossy sierra]

I don't have maintenance kits for treasure 😭

shift up I need this

my nikkes are kinda treasureless

[gritty ridge]

I wont be able to treasure moran instantly cuz I dont have enough dupes

[lone sequoia]

too much red here

[tulip quest]

I guess you will have fun watching people treasure Moran then cope

[river dune]

Oh yeah it was her yeah I am in the same boat as well

[tulip quest]

still not this patch tho

prolly next patch or somethin

[lone sequoia]

UR this week

[tulip quest]

treasure wasn't mentioned

[gritty ridge]

[tulip quest]

0

ayoiyoi

[lone sequoia]

lv0 vest?

[tulip quest]

Black ticket harder to get than gold

cause we don't really pull normal banner

[tidal lichen]

what can they even buff on moran

[gritty ridge]

Nobody gets leveled armor round here pardner

[tidal lichen]

isnt she omega good already

[gritty ridge]

She is

[tidal lichen]

maybe slight shift towards pve?

[gritty ridge]

They could increase her gen

[tulip quest]

Shift up wants to make her busted

[tulip quest]

Her kit doesn't really justify pve

Unless HelmT level monster treasure then pve is a big no

[swift mango]

If you are login, could you send me your bracket champ teams bigboy?

[tulip quest]

wut are you even cookin?

[gritty ridge]

Yeah one sec

[tulip quest]

https://tenor.com/view/sugar-spice-everything-nice-powerpuff-girls-gif-4834542

[swift mango]

Well, you could check bettor pic for record of champs

[rocky creek]

I don't know what the deal is with this guy in PVP but he hits me 3 times in a row every single day. It seems like he uses Sakura summer to high DPS the highest attack power nikke and uses straight DPS strategy. I'm sync 381 so I might just melt no matter what. What should I build towards to counter this guy?

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

[glossy sierra]

If he tries to melt you perhaps try jackal? Or nayuta?

[lunar pawn]

oof zwei is lb1

[swift mango]

Thank you

[lunar pawn]

guess I'll just hope to get lucky with pulls

[gritty ridge]

Im gonna start bullying lova in special arena

He doesnt need this many wins

[swift mango]

Could I ask for yours too Doppel? 5 teams of your bracket champ

[lunar pawn]

What

My bracket is the same as keripo's

[glossy sierra]

is zwei gonna be good or smth

[swift mango]

Slow Cindy usage are dropped even more this season.

[swift mango]

I didn't have his as well

[gritty ridge]

I wouldnt use my champ as an example, he just really likes his t5

[glossy sierra]

my goat getting pushed out of meta on campaign, pvp and bossing 😔

[lunar pawn]

Want team pics of top 4-8 or smth?

[gritty ridge]

Slow cindy is pretty common in my bracket

[swift mango]

Only the champ, 5 teams

[swift mango]

You are Jpn? Send me your champs too if possible pls it's a rare find

[glossy sierra]

how did you know I was japan ??

[lone sequoia]

remember... a shield for moran is a soft nerf in most of her teams, but a buff in the 2RL nuke comps

[rocky creek]

even with jackal my nuker seems to get face melted before the burst even goes off, maybe from summer sakura's ability. I currently run with Scarlet-blanc-Snow White-rapiRH-Jackal

[swift mango]

It's in your profile. Click on it

[gritty ridge]

Cuz youre not in my bracket

I wouldve been getting you

[swift mango]

I mean 12 champs I collected this time counting you, only 3 slow cindy

[glossy sierra]

maybe it's with the order of your team ? I don't think jackal can die that quickly

[swift mango]

Would be great if you screenshot like this

[lunar pawn]

Dude I gave you even better info

[swift mango]

I mean the fight record is nice but to show case just the champ. Doll level and CP are better

[umbral crown]

Blood has special eyee

[lunar pawn]

[glossy sierra]

Ohh wait I think he saw the names of the other people who had japanese letters

[umbral crown]

That reminds me to echo

[gritty ridge]

Nah, its on your discord profile lol

[swift mango]

Thank you.

[lunar pawn]

[umbral crown]

[glossy sierra]

wait that's a thing ?

[umbral crown]

[glossy sierra]

i didn't even know I entered that info

anyways here ya go

[rocky creek]

Jackal does survive but my nuke chain gets broken before anything significant happens. I'm at a 20k CP deficit. Against a dps heavy team such as his, am I just out of luck being low leveled?

[glad meteor]

Label stonks

[umbral crown]

Interesting teams

[glad meteor]

Mpriv

[swift mango]

It's from when you first log in to serve question check. And Thanks.

[glossy sierra]

I think Rapi RH is the issue here. Perhaps run Nayuta to tank ?

[swift mango]

What about yours? Send me your too thank you!

[umbral crown]

Noise bay with absolute

[umbral crown]

Kara is with rail and i

[glad meteor]

I’ll send when i login

[glad meteor]

You ady sent?

[umbral crown]

Rail did

[glad meteor]

Ah. Rail sent

[umbral crown]

[lone sequoia]

i'm proud of speed scar, she is now "meta" after some years

[swift mango]

I see.

[swift mango]

Are you in Keripo bracket nesso?

[lone sequoia]

now need centi with a team buff/shield sustain or dmg for that team

[lone sequoia]

yes, league 1 NA

[umbral crown]

I like these teams

[rocky creek]

Rapi RH pads my CP hard. After subbing in Nayuta, my CP takes a 4k hit. At a 25k deficit, I don't know if I'd have the DPS from Snow White bursting to finish off his team in time. I suppose I could try it out and see

[glossy sierra]

These teams are pretty unconventional, imo

[glossy sierra]

I think you should nuke with scarlet ngl

[lone sequoia]

if SU give centi a new team buff that cast before rosanna dispel i will change the 2 DEF lines on my scarlet for ele dmg, to kill swha with counters

[umbral crown]

Thats their appeal

[glossy sierra]

Since that team has like 0 nuke counter

[gritty ridge]

Im gonna beat him up next CA

Hes not ready

[umbral crown]

[glossy sierra]

btw 25k is nothing, i just learned that deficit only applies at like 15% in arena

[umbral crown]

Bigboi is ready

[swift mango]

14 champ collected this season. Come to @unique mountain discord if you wanted check.

[glossy sierra]

Hmm synchro 305 giving advice to synchro 380

idk if I'm the right fit

[gritty ridge]

Im gonna beat him up in spa too

[gritty ridge]

I give advice to 600 sync lol, its not a matter of sync

[umbral crown]

[glossy sierra]

oh ight

[umbral crown]

But theres 1 day left

[gritty ridge]

Thats ok

[lone sequoia]

it is fine, people learn at different speed

[glossy sierra]

I really should've taken yall's advice earlier, I might've been in CA rn

unfortunately i'm at like C6 in points

[umbral crown]

Next season, trust

[lone sequoia]

reshuffle

[rich ledge]

@tropic summit succeeded thanks

[glossy sierra]

WAIT THERE'S ONE ?

[glossy sierra]

PLEASE NO

[umbral crown]

Yes

[glossy sierra]

I don't want to have more whales in my lobby 😭

[lone sequoia]

it is what it is

[umbral crown]

Be the wheel

[glossy sierra]

😔

[glad meteor]

Like @rich quail

[umbral crown]

Indeed

[glossy sierra]

what is ch42 final boss's cp ?

oh wait I should ask that in questions

[swift mango]

Okay, only 13, I just checked again.

[umbral crown]

Kinda 2.8 or so

[gritty ridge]

Im excited for shuffle

[lone sequoia]

normal or hard mode?

[gritty ridge]

Nm

300 sync

[unique mountain]

[umbral crown]

[lone sequoia]

not me, i will get more cn players

[gritty ridge]

Uhhh, I think 700k?

[lone sequoia]

right now 6/10 are from don union in my top 10

[glossy sierra]

normal

[gritty ridge]

Oh no

[glossy sierra]

what ?

[gritty ridge]

I meant for nesso

[glossy sierra]

RIP my boy

[gritty ridge]

Like I said tho, I think ch 42 is 700k ish

Nothing too hard

[glossy sierra]

should be 35% ish deficit then

[lone sequoia]

for campaign 30~35% is fine, for bosses after behemoth 30% is a good range to clear, higher than that is way harder because all last bosses are just dps check or unit check, no interesting mechanics

[gritty ridge]

Only one is an s.doro check

[lone sequoia]

40~45% campaign clear is to min-max all your resources and lvls

[small gale]

How much weaker is Harran's burst compared to Scarlet's?

[glossy sierra]

behemoth is painful with no Cinderella No crown

[lone sequoia]

is that the last boss? i only clear hard mode boss the last day before new chapters

[swift mango]

Harran is useless and dead

[gritty ridge]

Yeah

[glossy sierra]

don't we already have a better water dps though, harm white

[gritty ridge]

Kinda

[lone sequoia]

that depends in who is your electric unit, ein or sanis, helmt is really good there, you can go full dmg with nayuta or ssrapi b1/b3 if you don't have the units you will get stuck

[gritty ridge]

Doro is higher part dmg, which is the dps check

If you cant clear the 1st tentacle you lose

Snow is a sniper so shes bad for that

I cleared with rrh

[swift mango]

Or just wait for lower deficit

[lone sequoia]

both are good units that work in different ranges, sdoro count as snipe for a SG with SG bonus dmg, swha count as distributed for a sniper, i think sdoro is easier to use than swha in normal stages as main dps, swha burst is bad against many mobs because you have to charge 3 sec

[glossy sierra]

Issue is that you can't sustain nor clear fast enough without one of them. At least at like 15% deficit

[lone sequoia]

scar/trina?

[gritty ridge]

[rocky creek]

okay I'll try subbing in Nayuta and see if that works. She does seem like a good counter pick with her indomitability. I think I might try just building up my Moran because she seems like the perfect counter pick with a taunt to draw away DPS

[glossy sierra]

Hmm, i haven't tried, mostly cuz no built trina

I tried ada, I tried Ein, neither worked

[gritty ridge]

What are you struggling with specifically

[glossy sierra]

nothing rn

I was talking about me before crown and cinderella

[gritty ridge]

Oh ok