pvp-arena

[tropic summit]

do ppl still run 3RL on rookie

[swift mango]

Try

Siren+Jackal+Trina+Scarlet+HelmT

It could be 2rl if Noah p2-3-4 and make them burst faster my bad

[tropic summit]

or 2.5RL if they've CS%, but ye

noah remains siren vulnerable either way, so you're not wrong on the approach

[swift mango]

I mean it's easy to beat but I don't know their investment.

So still hard

[tropic summit]

ye he didn't share box

[swift mango]

He can just indom Vesti.
Or 2rl Moran Bay to be sure. Noah without Noise is hard to use and not making them 2rl

[stuck pike]

Its 3 rl. Lm will stun your p1 but this may or may not matter if you either burst fast enough with a b1/b2 or put in a dud to eat the stun or god forbid use sora to cleanse it. You can just stun his Noah with your own lm which make biscuit burst, or just nuke him with a buffed 2rl team like with scar or besti before Noah bursts too. A well thought out indom aoe dps can also win this. Many options.

[charred wedge]

Both approaches lost, yours and trails . There is a cp gap of 20ish

[swift mango]

[charred wedge]

other situations my b2 gets stunned

[swift mango]

If there is Cp diff you need to show it so we adjust

[tropic summit]

bro is on deficit

[charred wedge]

[tropic summit]

post your box and enemy matchup with CP so we know if you've a remote chance

[charred wedge]

Im beating him clean in sp arena tho

rookie is the problem

[tropic summit]

ye give us info and that's beatable as long as you're not gapped beyond

plus if you knew your noise wasn't up to speed why even run it

[charred wedge]

Maybe i saw hope

[tropic summit]

there's no hope, only misery in this game when gapped

[swift mango]

Send the screenshot of your box first page

[charred wedge]

we can start what i got on RL units and sg

maybe?

[tropic summit]

noah jackal vestiTU laplaceT at least are built

[tropic summit]

assemble the team on the left and show CP against enemy team

this uses a good chunk of your high CP units so it will give us an idea of how you fare

[charred wedge]

this me

[swift mango]

Do your units all have 11% CS or above?

[charred wedge]

thats him

[tropic summit]

just take a screenshot of the VS screen where it shows both teams CP

[tropic summit]

perfect

[tropic summit]

you need 814k, so CP wise you're there, need to fix speed now

[swift mango]

Should work

[tropic summit]

hold on, if they're 2.5RL they still get to cindy B3

and we're on 2RL

[swift mango]

No they are 2rl if they had 1 quantum onanyone

[tropic summit]

eh how? it's 80% to 2RL

[umbral crown]

still vesti will hit cindy and decoy maybe affects siren

[tropic summit]

thing is, if we kill siren before they burst we gud

if they get to B1, cindy and noah are invulnerable, and we eat cindy nuke

[swift mango]

My bad it should still be 3rl

[charred wedge]

all i know is their cindy survives with noah intact

wait, noah dies and only cindy wipes

[umbral crown]

noah will be stuneed, ez

[tropic summit]

is enemy 3RL or 2.5RL via CS%

if 3RL you can run this team, if 2.5RL we need to slow it down

[spark granite]

@tropic summit the first team couldn’t survive, maybe because of the level or cp deficiency. But the 2nd team survived and my rag tag team for the third somehow survived long enough to beat soda after her Blanc buff. I’ll dm you the results in a bit

[tropic summit]

oke good

[swift mango]

I'm more worry about 3rl Cindy still get 5 hits to 2rl noah

[spark granite]

Tyty

[tropic summit]

could gamble and assume they're 3RL

[charred wedge]

wtf u guys are smart

[tropic summit]

nvm bro went ham

[swift mango]

No, it's only Rail.

[umbral crown]

no need to worry slowing down a team with vesti bursting before them

[charred wedge]

ty

[tropic summit]

turns out they were 3RL, siren died pre burst

oh nvm i see damage on vesti, we ate partial nuke

[umbral crown]

even so noah is stunned, when vesti burst they will be entering b1 then biscuit but vesti would have deleted them anyways

[tropic summit]

good thing nuke hit link i guess

distributed between siren vesti and jackal

[swift mango]

It's jackal link dmg.

He didn't eat the nuke I think

[tropic summit]

eh that much in 2RL?

their autos are kinda weak

[swift mango]

[umbral crown]

[charred wedge]

My screen recording was acting up but here it is

[tropic summit]

ye siren didn't get to burst, that's 3RL alright, blood was right only dmg on link from autos, no nukeroni

[swift mango]

Someone no longer exists.

[gray grotto]

i agree with @formal quiver here, there is definitely different cs thresholds for vesti. made this note last month from observing my vesti in CA:

was expecting "21% CS tier" for my vesti:
4.92 + 4.92 + 4.92 + 5.51 = 14.76 + 5.51 => 15 + 6 = 21
but after analysing that CA's replay frames: its still same performance as "18% CS tier" from previous season replay

[swift mango]

Well, then there need to be a different math if we are rounding to 0.5.
If it's just threeholds difference and rounding is the same then it's not the same as what he said.

[gray grotto]

just saying the pinned CS tiers doesn't apply to vesti, and how vesti's frame reductions are calculated inaccurately on nikketop

[swift mango]

Supposed we use his math here. 21% and 18% are still of different tier. Not same tier like you said.

Even if we are rounding to 0.5 your new CS is still 20.5 and exactly at the new tier. No matter how you round it. Edit: Wait you could round it to 20% but it's weird against current logic.

Not old tier anymore

So his tiering is still incorrect.

Maybe Vesti in Nikke.top isn't right but idk what is true either. So whatever it is.

[swift mango]

Could you post the 2 video here?

Do you remember if you used Adjustant?

[gray grotto]

its a note i made from last month, can't remember the exact videos alrdy

[swift mango]

Maybe we could use the old tiering but just double Vesti CS.

Like 4% is 8% for example. That would make 4% being a threshold correct.

[gray grotto]

i also alrdy rerolled away 1x CS line because i didn't see the frame performance difference

[swift mango]

It's hard to apply rounding CS to his chart. We need more definite resources to use...

[gray grotto]

up to the vesti gods to figure out the exact maths

[swift mango]

It's not 1 frame difference with current CS threshold for normal RL either.

And his chart calculate on 1 frame basic. Not really put out the real threshold to follow.

Maybe it's 1 threshold per 3 frame? Edit: I think it was 2 frame per threshold with normal RL?

Or sth.

Anyway, just my luck.

[covert lintel]

Same as me today wasted 8rocks just to roll lower stat

[swift mango]

My Blanc so smol.

[swift mango]

It was tier 2 ATK to tier 1 ATK.

[rustic sandal]

[tropic summit]

another funny matchup without jackal noah and blanc

[rustic sandal]

Winnable?

[tropic summit]

box from 17/01: #pvp-arena message

[swift mango]

No don't send

[rustic sandal]

Yeah. No changes.

[swift mango]

U send u lose

[rustic sandal]

I can fight CH2 instead.

[tropic summit]

this one might be doable

[swift mango]

Build some different teams

[rustic sandal]

Ey man. I only need to win 2/3 times. The last one can be just one unit and then condense my power into two winnable teams.

[tropic summit]

this one is a bit more tedious on T2

@rustic sandal just confirming you didn't get siren either right?

[swift mango]

Nvm, I see, it has high CP

[rustic sandal]

Thats... bruh...

It's in the name.

[tropic summit]

good lord, cursed af

[rustic sandal]

I did get Crown 2 days ago. Now it's Siren left.

[swift mango]

This one you should win yeah

[tropic summit]

mother of god there's no biscuit either

maybe ch2 really is easier, just gonna sudoku both teams into them

[swift mango]

He could win c2 by hitting attack.

180k vs 240k

[rustic sandal]

No Jackal, Centi, Trina, Noah, Blanc, Biscuit, and Rumani.

[tropic summit]

ye thinking the same

[rustic sandal]

And I somehow still cook these guys.

[tropic summit]

27% deficit advantage on T3

his 2 snipers will melt p5 onward

[rustic sandal]

2RL nuke.

If you have Libe, she can wipe out RH before they can burst.

[tropic summit]

little tweaking and you good to go to hit ch2

[latent bobcat]

same team just take out SW huh?

[tropic summit]

punish 2.5RL noah with siren and a nuker imo

[tropic summit]

noah biscuit vestiTU helmt siren

[latent bobcat]

i was thinking that

[swift mango]

Now that I look at CP you maybe able to win this too.... The team 2 idk though.

[tropic summit]

T2 he will, he's got vesti on 2.5RL

[tropic summit]

we need a backup B2 tho, nayuta gonna get stunned sec, CP is gud at least

[latent bobcat]

thank you guys

[rustic sandal]

Shouldn't I put VestiTU in P1 just in case Nayuta gets stunned?

[tropic summit]

ye but wanna burst with vesti here

[rustic sandal]

I can put SWHA then.

Wait no that's dangerous.

[swift mango]

His Vesti could kill siren before she burst

[tropic summit]

just swap RRH with RH screw it, wanted to give you more SR pressure on T3 but the trade off is an headache, that way you've backup B2

T3 will win anyway

[rustic sandal]

[tropic summit]

what a box tho there's nothing but sucide approach left

oh you've an anchor

there's hope

[rustic sandal]

Okay. I'm not attacking yet.

[tropic summit]

we can get you to ensure you burst on T3 aswell

as for T2 you've backup B2 and buffed vestiTU, should be final draft

T2 needs 209k to be fine

[rustic sandal]

Ah shit.

[tropic summit]

rrh instead of liter my bad

should hit CP requirement then

[rustic sandal]

Ye.

[tropic summit]

alrighty go get em

SWHA instead of drakeT tho, mentioned it earlier

you can get to 3RL instead of 4RL

either way works anyhow, it's overkill on 3RL anyway

[rustic sandal]

Nice. Let's do this.

[tropic summit]

yuki gonna be CH1 soonTM

reshuffle will surely take CH1 away and replace him with someone weaker

[rustic sandal]

Hopefully.

[swift mango]

SW should be much lower cp

[rustic sandal]

It's all about having the right team and having investments on them.

[tropic summit]

not if you looked at their box

which you clearly didn't

[rustic sandal]

Sending a recording.

[rustic sandal]

That's old though. Lemme send new one.

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

maybe drake 40k, vesti 25k

[tropic summit]

he was on 27%, 24% will probably still do

[swift mango]

doubt, my scarlet could wipe at 23% but mot 26%

[tropic summit]

there's no scar here

and SWHA was hitting ele weak on p5 vesti

[gaunt pulsar]

3 more days

[tropic summit]

until uninstalling nikke? a wise choice

[wild drum]

hey railtracerr so idk which one of my pvp teams are the strongest

[gaunt pulsar]

first ca in 7month just to lose in league

[swift mango]

the one with the most cp.

[wild drum]

idk who to invest in to make better and idk which 2 are the strongest teams

[tropic summit]

rather than the team you should prioritize the pvp core units

[rustic sandal]

5 minutes to send a 60 MB video.

[wild drum]

oh idk who is pvp core i showed my loadout a couple times

[tropic summit]

from what i see, number 1 priority blanc, then SWHA, then biscuit and trina and centi

[rustic sandal]

Oh wait nothing really changed.

DAMN THERE THEY GO.

My internet is so bad.

[wild drum]

@tropic summit

[rustic sandal]

It took 5 minutes before everything gets sent.

[wild drum]

sorry some of the pictures include only the namese lol

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/perfection-michael-fassbender-1

@swift mango look at your 24% deficit

vesti died to 1RL SWHA

whale gamin'

[rustic sandal]

7/7/7 0 OL btw.

[swift mango]

c2?
I thought u hit c1

[tropic summit]

number 1 priority blanc, then SWHA, then biscuit and trina and centi

[rustic sandal]

I CAN'T.

I can't win against that.

[tropic summit]

imagine being CH1 with literally the most cursed box, whole new record

[wild drum]

raillll

[rustic sandal]

I already did.

[swift mango]

@spare brook stayed c1 with 3 blue nikkes.

[tropic summit]

i replied to you, twice,

1
#pvp-arena message

2
#pvp-arena message

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/gigachad-13

[wild drum]

so i don't need to change my teams?

[tropic summit]

do i need to say the same thing again?

[rustic sandal]

I already did it before.

[tropic summit]

what a beast

[swift mango]

tell me more

[wild drum]

i'm just you didn't clearly say

if i need to change my teams or not

[rustic sandal]

Not a big difference.

[tropic summit]

dafuq isn't clear in:

number 1 priority blanc, then SWHA, then biscuit and trina and centi

build blanc then SWHA then biscuit then trina and centi

[tropic summit]

you don't, you need to build the above

[wild drum]

so i just build those in my current teams right now thats all? (im trying to be 100% sure)

[tropic summit]

build. those. units.

[wild drum]

okay thanks im just like not good at making up my mind

[tropic summit]

yeah... i noticed

[swift mango]

build crow!

[swift mango]

me too

[wild drum]

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/durarara-ascii-media-works

[rustic sandal]

Need me more boots.

[tropic summit]

wishlist noah jackal and biscuit harder first pls

put them twice or thrice in there

[rustic sandal]

Done.

[gaunt pulsar]

imagine if it was possible

[tropic summit]

it is possible, fixed it for you @rustic sandal

[rustic sandal]

Yeah. This is beautiful!

[rustic sandal]

I like how Elysion isn't changed.

Poli isn't good anymore? Let's wait for her Treasure then.

[tropic summit]

screw poli, you've like other 8 priorities right now

[swift mango]

poli treasure isn't good anymore

[gaunt pulsar]

poli isn't really needed, unless you want to spend resources just to experiment

[rustic sandal]

Oh... it's not even good?!

The meta sure have changed from 2 years ago.

[tropic summit]

got powercrept by nayuta right after, even in her meager role that she gained in CA

[rustic sandal]

How about BayT?

[tropic summit]

situationally good

has usage in CA and SP

but considering your box, getting yourself lappy treasured would at least add burst gen

then again you're antinuke-less too so bay would help, but you can run her 4/4/4 2OL for all she needs

[gaunt pulsar]

dont need bayt for that though, i mean as a chase unit, regular bay is fine

[rustic sandal]

This is why my Cindy and VestiTU are cooked.

Next Solo Raid I'm probably gonna pick SR for RL.

[swift mango]

technically still usable in CA if you lack other options

[rustic sandal]

I definitely lack every single option there is.

I wish I can finish Chapter 31 boss faster, so I can get my 7th recruit voucher, then clear the Lost Sector for the last 3 vouchers, and then I can pull.

[rustic sandal]

Well that didn't last long.

[tropic summit]

there's noway you gonna defend without those pvp core units, pad to heavens and hope for the best

[glad meteor]

We wait for dev notes

[glad meteor]

Where is the Crow Treasure Waiting Room

[rustic sandal]

[wild hemlock]

Missed this. She's literally just x4 atk but not great rolls

Max skills

Does pvp SWHA care about max ammo OL?

Or just what OL do you want on Snow white anyways

[swift mango]

This investment is exactly for 2rl Nayuta+RH

[swift mango]

use this 💳

[swift mango]

nothing but Atk is always welcome unless you needed to manipulate atk.

[rustic sandal]

Can't.

[swift mango]

Use this

[rustic sandal]

I think I can

I'll also sell my left lung.

Maybe my left eyeball too.

[coarse lake]

huh...

then something is causing your nayuta to do half dmg compared to mine

some dispel from rosa? it should get rid of the indom first tho

[swift mango]

Crit, RH buff. Level.

[coarse lake]

sg nayuta vs sg nayuta mirror

both nayutas in question doing 1v 2-3

rosa alive in both...

my vid if you wanna look, my main hits do about 2mil and aoe (no cd) should be about 400k

which is approx double that of what you're doing, and what I've seen a lot of other nayutas do

so something is going on

[wild hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-demon-summoning-spell-gif-20055457

I fear I was cursed during my CA match by evil forces

[swift mango]

Ofc the guy who hit 4 deal more dmg.

[swift mango]

[marble saddle]

@tropic summit either bro is doing some 5000 iq cook or he's not that knowledgeable about teams.

[swift mango]

If he could get to CA then he could be testing his team for next season

[marble saddle]

He's 2.9 million vs my 2.3 million cp.
That must be a very scuffed team.

I have been changing Def teams tho.

[swift mango]

1.8m because you have Ele. He doesn't.

[coarse lake]

I'm not talking about nuke

Later hits, esp killing hit on drake

Then aoe crit on Rosa for 600k

[swift mango]

Those hit could be visual bug or share HP bug. Or some sort of bug. But it doesn't really matter at that point

His Nayuta could be doing that much dmg too. You just doesn't know because you couldn't see it

[coarse lake]

My direct hit on Rosa killed her from around half hp

[swift mango]

The 2m hit is obviously this one

weapon in use:
Charge time: Fixed at 1.8 sec
Damage: 275.18% of final ATK
Full Charge Damage: 250% of Damage

That's a 700% dmg hit with 45% ATK buff from Nayuta skill 1+2.

[coarse lake]

Yes

And others do like 1mil with it

[swift mango]

We don't see "other dmg here"

Charge Dmg affect it. Drake also buff it. And it could be some kind of bug that doesn't matter anyway

[coarse lake]

Pic from his fight, idk why it's white kekw

That's main hit + aoe

About half of my dmg

I saw a nayuta whose aoe barely out damaged temma regular healing...

Like even looking at hp bar I'm doing around double

On phone rn, so can't look at vids (potato phone)

[swift mango]

Could he reverse dmg bug like Midhara. Like she died but deal overkill dmg to other. Nayuta weak to drake but could be stronger instead because of Indom.

But it doesn't matter at that point anyway.

[coarse lake]

my nayuta somehow finding a way to do double dmg and it doesn't matter? Need to figure out what causes the diff

[swift mango]

When she is near death so it doesn't matter

Could be the overkill dmg flow back to Drake like Midhara vs Scarlet

[coarse lake]

It matters when it comes to being able to kill a SG resist team or not, or having teammates left to guarantee win in mirror

[swift mango]

Only happened when everyone else already death anyway. What's teammates?

[coarse lake]

We don't know that it only happens when solo, bc I can't get good vids in other cases

I'll look through my old vids again tomorrow and see if I can find something

[swift mango]

I wish people in my bracket changed their teams to vesti

The dude in C1 used Vesti but p1 no biscuit Blanc. So kinda hard...

Maybe I should try to keep his Blanc alive

[warm monolith]

So, sw died but just as i was about to full burst, all the team died too. Also i mightve forgot to use this team until today

Also @tropic summit i raised my rosanna atk below 20% to almost 40%

But skills are still 7/8/9

[wind kelp]

Well, Rosnna starter OL lines weren't great, but also not bad for a plceholder. Although probably just rerolling until i hit 3rds.

So we have a starter Rosanna, mid-build Rosanna, now someone post their finished Rosanna and we have a full set 😄

[remote dirge]

how does position matter in pvp?

[wind kelp]

In a nutshell: much
In open nutshell: depends on team

[remote dirge]

which position is targeted first?

[north brook]

Not great? Thats not 4x hit rate/charge speed/charge dmg

[marble saddle]

Mostly left most.
Somewhat rightmost

[onyx scaffold]

Most weapon, from p1 to p5
SR p5 to p1
SG p5 to p1 when defending. P1 to p5 when attacking

[scarlet adder]

hello, i have a question. Lets say there are two teams equally fast. One team has nayuta as b2 and the other has blanc as b2 and nayu's initial nuke kills blanc. Will indom of blanc be fast enough to activate or cast speed is too slow and blanc team loses?

[glad meteor]

If blanc bursts, i’d expect what’s more important is if the indom target dies or not during the cast time

[rich quail]

Keep it going

I got my 4th atk line just now

[warm monolith]

Its moran tho bro

[rich quail]

I know

I just buffed mine because I like her

My bad I need my eyes checked lolz

Thought you posted Moran

[wind kelp]

Yeah but she doesn't need crit dam or charge speed, MG go brr :p

[gaunt pulsar]

blanc pressed b2 > blanc dead next frame(look at flying cat screen) > helm still gets indom

as long as she presses the button she can die, but yea target should survive until effect applies

[marble saddle]

Is SWHA's Burst considered delayed or instant?

[hollow lagoon]

She takes time to charge

Missile targeting starts but missiles take time to hit

So she’s most defiantly considered delayed

[marble saddle]

then if i use a 3RL team against a 2.5 RL SWHA team can my noah block it?

[hollow lagoon]

Do u not know how swha works or?

[marble saddle]

havent used her yet so no i dont

[hollow lagoon]

Think of her like Ada

Delayed attack with pulsing aoe

[marble saddle]

havent used ada as well so not much help there

[marble saddle]

so basically is like dot?

[gaunt pulsar]

like vesti, she keeps shooting, 3 sec not gonna save you from that

[hollow lagoon]

Dot with strong single target delayed pew pew

[marble saddle]

welp. then i prob need to use indom.

[marble saddle]

wait its st? doesnt she atk 10 targets?

[hollow lagoon]

Do u not read kits bro

She has 2 large sniper shots and bunch of missiles

And no the missiles target 15 not 10

[marble saddle]

i do but i cant say i understand them

[hollow lagoon]

Increase by 10 from 5 =5+10=15

[gaunt pulsar]

and if there no 15 targets she attack 15/5 so 3 times each target because she increases her ammo too

[marble saddle]

and all of those are st?

[marble saddle]

so that means its team wide for pvp.

[hollow lagoon]

Think Cindy

[marble saddle]

yeah....

the problem now is its 3 secs long and noah aint tanking that

[hollow lagoon]

Bru it’s a swha team just poke it with rosana and it’s dead, universe ain’t complicated

[marble saddle]

even if the opponent is higher cp?

[hollow lagoon]

That’s just ur skill issue?

[marble saddle]

fair enough

[hollow lagoon]

2.5 rl u might ba able to get away with a fast nuff scarlet

But what does opponent team even look like

[gaunt pulsar]

swha regular shots > 5 targets get locked and get hit once from effect 1 of skill1, and once from effect 2 of skill 1 + on top of that she shoots from her sniper like any other SR at p5.
swha on burst gets 2 giga buffed shots and increases her special ammo by 10 so first 2 shots get increased dmg, charge time becomes longer and max special ammo becomes 15 instead of 5, which means her basic SR shot becomes single target nuke while effect 1 and 2 get buffed and she deals more shots with effect 2, basically delayed screen wipe

[marble saddle]

this is what im thinking

[hollow lagoon]

Opponent is the Noah?

[marble saddle]

yup top is enemy

if i fail to kill his swha i die.
simple as that

[glad meteor]

[hollow lagoon]

Do u know their links?

[marble saddle]

their? do you mean mine?

[hollow lagoon]

Nvm I’m thinking derp

Do u know their core count

[glad meteor]

Rosa get’s taunted by noise noah with that positioning, rapu can also res snow?

[marble saddle]

ah fq

[glad meteor]

Can’t you just run vesti blanc

[marble saddle]

i prob can, i was just trying to figure out a different team tbh

[hollow lagoon]

Maybe too fast

[glad meteor]

i see

[marble saddle]

my ada isnt built so not applicable

[hollow lagoon]

Skill issue part 2

Just indom then

[wind kelp]

I think i avoided a big champion shuffle, the listing seems pretty same, maybe a couple other in the 5-10 range.

[glad meteor]

Technically you can try this

[hollow lagoon]

Their 2.5

[glad meteor]

Noise noah taunts soda so they rapu biscuit always

[glad meteor]

Yeah. Siren should work

Just put her in p3-5 and some biscuit cindy I guess

[hollow lagoon]

@marble saddle they are Friggen 2.5 with Noah p1 so siren for profit la

[high stream]

Could I get some help with this?

[marble saddle]

ok. can you check this one first tho?

[hollow lagoon]

Blanc p1 with no protection you are brave sir

[high stream]

Nevermind, he isn't top 10 anymore

[hollow lagoon]

Unless ur Blanc is thicc like mine

[marble saddle]

yeah i wondered about that but i dont trust vesti to stay alive

[hollow lagoon]

Core 7 that is

Vesti should be fine

[gaunt pulsar]

she is linked how do you not trust

[patent sail]

all skills are tauntable?

[marble saddle]

i tried something similar but fricking forgot about enemy helm
so vesti + 2 linked died

and ive never been the same

[marble saddle]

dunno if this thicc enough, her doll isnt sr 15 yet

[marble saddle]

[gaunt pulsar]

was it on deficit?

[hollow lagoon]

What u don’t like extra ammo vesti?

[gaunt pulsar]

.

[marble saddle]

skill issue 3: my vesti's CS is shit

[hollow lagoon]

Hence I gib u noir so u can put adju cube

I know everything

U only need like 5%ish cs?

[marble saddle]

yeah i got that much at least

[hollow lagoon]

That’s more than enuff

Don’t even need adju

[marble saddle]

so quantum instead? or resilience for the stats?

[hollow lagoon]

U want to make sure

She’s lowest hp

So u slap whatever cube tha deal damage and gib ur other attacker vigor

And idk tempering on jackal or something

What’s ur jackal’s CS

[marble saddle]

alot worse

[hollow lagoon]

Ain’t good nuff for this then

Unfortunate

[marble saddle]

does this imply i got 7% CS on each 3?

[hollow lagoon]

I think it’s 15 on rl and vesti need like 5-8

[marble saddle]

my biscuit's CS

does noir need any special investment?

[hollow lagoon]

Not really I just slot something that make it 2.5

I wonder if vesti aoe can catch them if 2rl tho

[marble saddle]

kk. My Testi's HP is the lowest of the 5

[hollow lagoon]

U are using noir?

Fancy

[marble saddle]

you suggested that

[hollow lagoon]

U could as long as ur cp holds

[marble saddle]

k lemme check that then

[hollow lagoon]

U can also just helmT

[marble saddle]

doesnt get cp nerfed at least

[hollow lagoon]

Try for Kekw

[marble saddle]

k. does noir need any special cube? shes naked on arena cube now

[hollow lagoon]

Bro I donno tempering

[marble saddle]

done

here i go

@hollow lagoon

[hollow lagoon]

10 sec Noah yikes

[marble saddle]

it is what it is

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit I cursed another today

I made him use noir in rookie

Funny shit is if he put rapunzel p1-3 I would derped out

Noise p5 is pertty derp

Idk I think our opponent didn’t count for existence of siren

I would shove 5x into him to teach him a valuable lesson of life and he should thank me for the great enlightenment

[marble saddle]

well. bro had a breakdown earlier today

[hollow lagoon]

Lose?

[marble saddle]

i just had to kick him while he was down

[hollow lagoon]

[marble saddle]

it was the kindest thing i could do for him

[hollow lagoon]

Keep up the great work

[marble saddle]

ty for your contributions. when he asks how i beat his ass i'll be sure to include your name alongside rails

[hollow lagoon]

I mean put his Noah p1 in a 2.5 he’s basically asking to getnspanked

[marble saddle]

bro cant help it,
hes been winning via cp gap for his entire pvp career

now all of a sudden someone isnt affected by his cp shenanigans

[hollow lagoon]

I been winning via cp gap

[marble saddle]

yes but you know better than to put noah on p1

[hollow lagoon]

U could if ur 2rl and Noah have 11% CS

[marble saddle]

why would you do that if youve been cp gapping 99% of the competition

[hollow lagoon]

I put the big nasty on my def incase shuffle give me bad time guess I don’t need to

[charred wedge]

I need big nasty defense team

[marble saddle]

all that is missing is a biscuit for the extra thicc wall

[hollow lagoon]

@marble saddle back to my electric def team

[marble saddle]

you remind me of tech when he was younger

[hollow lagoon]

Surely one of them can use a label to beat me

I made it that obvious already

[worn ridge]

Moran stats?

[hollow lagoon]

Pertty bad rolls

7/7/10

Basic ol with no rerolls

I should improve but I’m pve

[worn ridge]

Is atk good if you use her with helm? Full dps moran all the way?

[hollow lagoon]

That’s a Strat that’s been explored but mine’s not good nuff

Even tho I pioneered the salad as a counter indom vesti thing

[swift mango]

Then it's good.

[glad meteor]

ele not 23.56 = reroll

[upbeat dock]

What’s the most likely counter to my team comp? A slower indom vesti?

[hollow lagoon]

I only reroll if less than 17%

[swift mango]

Yeah, it's a common lose
Vesti indom lose to life steal.

[hollow lagoon]

Wasn’t common till I start spreading it

[swift mango]

I was posting Video losing against it when I started testing Vesti during her event. So yeah, not new to me.

[worn ridge]

Mine just need sr15 doll to be good , i only use moran with biscuit and anis comp but vestis are nerfing her

[worn ridge]

Yeah a 2.5rl team

[swift mango]

Me blue lock at 22.4%

[hollow lagoon]

[hollow lagoon]

Poke u with rosana and MIs indom u onto jackal and ur done

[upbeat dock]

I guess i can prep for that by replacing helm with something slower?

[swift mango]

Remove Rosa.

[upbeat dock]

Battle of the slow indoms lol

[swift mango]

Misindom using Rosa and/or SR. Or just kill with Rosa.
Siren to stun SW mid charge.
Slow Cindy with Blanc.
Noise+Noah+Biscuit 3rl
Indom Rapipi, doesn't need to be slower.

[hollow lagoon]

Oh noes

@umbral belfry

[gaunt bane]

so they've updated their team into this, with team 2 now have slightly lower cp but still quite hard to not get gapped
I tried butting 2RL vesti against T3, killed vesti but wiped to SWHA. Need new recommendation 😅

I could run a slightly slower 3RL indom Vesti (2nd image) against their T2 which barely meet the CP gap, would that work?

Not sure about positioning yet, but lib probably has to be in P1 to tank with the link and get stunned by siren. But not sure how much they would be feeding me.

[swift mango]

Darn it's maid event next?! Hope it's nothing meta

[hollow lagoon]

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

Use Siren to stun Blanc.

2rl Noah/Blanc/Bay against scarlet.

Just scarlet Trina the ASS team. 3rl Noah Vesti fine too. Could also stun Noah with Siren.

[gaunt bane]

I dont have siren tho
Already running a 2RL Noah vs scarlet

[swift mango]

Then

Jackal+SW/Vesti+Blanc+Centi+Another B3 linked

[gaunt bane]

dont have enough invested battery, that'd tank my cp too hard

[swift mango]

Doesn't need Centi just flex

[gaunt bane]

wdym? Any thing else will make that team 3RL

[swift mango]

Jackal+SW+Feed is already 2rl

If Vesti then use DrakeT as link p5 or sth. Be sure Vesti/SW lower HP than Jackal and the p5 link

You also don't need 2rl against S.Anis. 3rl enough.

[tropic summit]

he's trying his best

[tropic summit]

good keep it up

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-kitten-kiss-gif-6588078957197429086

[keen vapor]

Licking

[hollow lagoon]

I thought it’s me violently eat face but ok

[keen vapor]

It's licking

[warm monolith]

Ill raise her atk a bit over 40% and leave her as it is

[tropic summit]

T1 remains very easy to clear, any indom 2RL (or 90% 2.5RL since you get decent feed from enemy scarlet) will be able to clear it
if you can't afford indom it, you can nayuta and any 2RL sudoku team, nayuta stays alive while both kill each others
T2 this one has SBS as main B3, means a defender + taunt with biscuit will deny all of their damage while you can keep safely hitting them

noah and rumani excell at this, get yourself a B3 DPS like vestiTU or SWHA that can hit them while you stall

T3 is the most expensive to deal with, at least if you don't have siren, can leave it for the other 2

your main issue here remains CP, so pad as needed, multiply for 0.846 their team CP to see how much you need

[swift mango]

You have someone that you no gapped?

[tropic summit]

@swift mango so no surpirse full burst day afterall, guess it's time to do dailies

[swift mango]

I actually pulled for all these 3 girls on their debut banner. Funny how I didn't skip this squad even though they aren't meta or Arena.

[tropic summit]

i know why you're broke you don't need to remind me

[swift mango]

One of the better squads in this game.

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

Maybe the only squad where I like all of the girls in it.

[tropic summit]

ye that's more accurate

[swift mango]

There's also Folkwang and Bay squad where I like the whole squad I guess.

The main squad, Rapi squad I actually don't really like Rapi. Not like I hate her, just no comment.

Anis and Neon are more likeable.... Okay there's also Pioneer squad.. There's nothing to not like about the weirdo squad lol.

[broken quest]

@tropic summit gg

we won

[swift mango]

Now hit c5

[swift mango]

Each of them has a different theme. The only squad being like that.

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/onimai-anime-sleep

[crystal minnow]

Hi

Can i ask good teams for arena?

[broken quest]

I did, won 1 others are to cp gapped

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

yes, you can refer to these and make them on your own
#pvp-arena message

or post your box and someone can make you 3 teams

[swift mango]

My molds and blue pulls were all purple before these friend pulls though.

Now I wished I had Emma or Delta to sacc.

[lone sequoia]

i need a social points cap or i will have to wait 7 years more

[swift mango]

Unknowingly I missed out on PvP units because I thought they were PvE.

Finally reading Delta skill because a guy in Jpn used her as sacc, and turning out she is the best Sacc for Rossanna.

Winter soline is SG counter for example

[umbral belfry]

my wife

[hollow lagoon]

Arcana hime lost forever

Never to return

[umbral crown]

Is not your wife velvet

[shell hazel]

not today crusadia chan

[glad meteor]

bro won ca

[shell hazel]

indeed I am +60 sync on em though

and not like my units are junk pve nonsense 😛

in SPA they're 2nd but I have +1M cp

2.3 vs 3.3

[glad meteor]

Scar soda trina helm jackal (scar will need to nuke rh though)
Noah biscuit snowwhite rosanna jackal
blanc mihara rumani biscuit cindirella?

Oh. 2rl vesti and snow indom can work. As long as noah doesn’t survive

[glad meteor]

Can be a slower rl but would need
blanc dps biscuit flex flex

[ancient sun]

What are solid Nayuta non RH teams on SP defense?

[worn ridge]

Could i beat him?

He changed rh for snow

[ancient sun]

I used to have a very weak third team at the detriment of having strong two. Now I reworked it to the best of my knowledge and invested units ( for this reason I put Rapi in team 1). Could I do something better for Nayuta?

Edit: rosanna in p4

[acoustic raven]

What the cube for this team

[hollow lagoon]

Oh he’s back

Oh wait

Crusadia he’s in my bracket for CA

Huh weird I don’t see him

[versed mesa]

I'm tempted to just copy my main opponents defense teams, since the other two vying for top 3 seem to not be able to beat it at all, even though he hasn't changed it in like a month.

[forest zodiac]

will my t1 win?

I know t3 wins, and I skip t2 because gap

yeah, won pretty easy, was just confused with his team - what it supposed to do?

[cunning crown]

something to this effect

[versed mesa]

I think he is trying to counter a Siren stun maybe with having M.Privaty in P1, while still having a "nuke" B3 if she doesn't, though seems really weird, especially as I think Privaty B3 isn't that strong in pvp?

[worn ridge]

Yeah he is 3rl you should win

[oak hatch]

Rosa gets stronger when units die so maybe he was hoping on private dying early so he can burst around 2 rl and get rosa to wipe two of your characters

[shell hazel]

they are not they are in my bracket. might be a different crusadia member

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

[hollow lagoon]

Man 3 rock only from full burst day

[shell hazel]

I got 4 but 1st run was 3 lol

just went downhill from there

I'm OK with 2 per normal day, just hate it's when 0

[sinful granite]

Where am I best trying to squeeze HelmT in here?

[hollow lagoon]

And I spent and got nothing

[shell hazel]

I burnt like 10 rocks or so on s.doro for garbage lately I'll wait some I guess see what comes next

[worn ridge]

Replace alice for helm

[sinful granite]

Yeah that was my thinking, thanks

[grand plaza]

Well, you wanted this Scarlet

[tropic summit]

you could beat him if you let him laplaceT B3 on invulnerable p1, they only have p1 and p2 damage

e.g.

nayuta trina vestiTU helmT RH
or
nayuta trina LIB helmT RH

since they've noise and anchor, they're stacking HP, prefer vestiTU to slowly DPS them to hell

i think you should be able to clear them as long as you're not above 24%-27% deficit

HP stack counters underdog a lot

another option to give you more time to DPS them

blanc vestiTU rh biscuit jackal

although you gonna need to live to 2.5RL with dmg on 1 linked unit (jackal and blanc will invulnerable)

[glad meteor]

[leaden canyon]

@tropic summit we now have this

[glad meteor]

🧑‍🍳

Bro is ada bursting. Respect

[tropic summit]

he's trollin

[tropic summit]

vestiTU on deficit is criminal

ofc he includes a SG to essentially give you dmg on p1 p2 p3 and p5

real piece of work your rival

[leaden canyon]

I have had sucess solo hood bursting that team before but s.anis might just kill my hood with her skill lol

[tropic summit]

the good thing is that you only need to get close to 15% deficit

that team will never burst

[leaden canyon]

true

[tropic summit]

you tested moran HP stack already against ada indom btw?

else just gonna slack and throw an indom scarlet against it

show CP

@glad meteor does nayuta or crown buff lib more assuming both are the B2 bursting?
assume crown also pops her atk% via biscuit heal

[leaden canyon]

it happenes against the ein ada team but I think ein burst and ada got the indom, so I dont think we have actually tested it with ada bursting

[glad meteor]

Shud be crown right.

Crown has s1 s2 and burst

[tropic summit]

if you wanna test it go ahead before running indom scar, T3 can stay as is

[tropic summit]

ye since lib doesn't cast immediatly iirc she gets the full kit

[leaden canyon]

t3 is 192

my crown and lib have low cp

[tropic summit]

26% deficit ultra yolo

honestly i don't think it should lethal but do it for science?

if it fails run vestiTU instead of lib

you can then sub crown for nayuta

the 2 variants

what even is their other 3rd team anyway?

[leaden canyon]

Moran noah lib sg sg, the one we cant deal with yet

[tropic summit]

eh could commit to that one with 2RL vestiTU on RH buff, will lethal noah

but go with the above first, it's curious deficit matchups

[leaden canyon]

We tried killing it before with vesti

[tropic summit]

if we tried with RH before we can actually rosanna noah instead

[leaden canyon]

Rosanna wont one shot though at deficit right?

[tropic summit]

no but you were close to lethal noah

[worn ridge]

I'll try with indom i tested laplace/snow/blanc/rapunzel/jackal and ofc laplace died and jackal got the indom

[tropic summit]

run the previous 2 teams i gave you, we need benchmark anyway @leaden canyon

[tropic summit]

on deficit realistically you only got around 3 or 4 teams

noah biscuit archetype
nayuta archetype
blanc indom biscuit archetype
crown biscuit flex flex nayuta archetype

the B3s there will situationally be lib or vestiTU

as they're those who can still do something on deficit

situationally buffed helmT and scarlet can also deal with deficit, but way more niche

[tropic summit]

that was easier than i thought, boring

lib mvp give her a lot of pats

also your MF of rival still running weird af indom

dunno what he smokes but it does its thing

[covert lintel]

Finally I've reached my goal for 4crit 4ed

[tropic summit]

so 26% deficit against team without DR/HP stack crown buffed lib retains lethal, good benchmark

[worn ridge]

Man i feel ill lose anyway im laready using noah/biscuit/ lib/rh/helm against it's scarlet team , what about rossana+blanc? Could that work?

[leaden canyon]

im pretty sure he has high cs on the units that want it plus he has swha in 5th to shoot faster and maybe quantum on her too

[tropic summit]

show their 3 teams so i've a clear picture

[tropic summit]

eh probably, just so weird

[worn ridge]

Ok give me a min

[worn ridge]

[tropic summit]

hmm CP is very tight here

the good thing is that you can deal with that glass cannon scar relatively easily

[acoustic raven]

What the cube for this team?

[tropic summit]

soda any
nayuta any
drake tempering/any
rosa tempering/any
noir any

do not give soda vigor or tempering

[acoustic raven]

Oke thanks

[tired root]

hello, quick question, how much faster is SWHA compared to XMaiden in charging the burst gauge for PVP?

[tropic summit]

show CP for reference with these

in that T1, in the flex spot, put any non clip RL and non clip SG B2 flex unit that keeps your CP high, possibly eletric, we gonna sacc that one

Need:

T3 2192k CP
T2 2166k CP

(T2 can be in deficit of up to 20-22%)

we want to stay 2.5RL or 3RL to let laplaceT be B3

[glad meteor]

Way faster. They dont really compare

[worn ridge]

S hwa is superior bro

[tropic summit]

near twice as much (assuming 2RL)

[glad meteor]

Its kinda impossible to not have a 2.5 rl snow white team

[tired root]

tq for the replies, i figured she was superior but that is insane, i lost on defense recently in SP Arena after a month and figured i should change things up a bit and saw XMaiden taking up one of the slots lol.

[spiral onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-eye-roll-annoyed-awkward-awkward-silence-gif-8519527199733944803

[worn ridge]

Is anis a good choice?

[tropic summit]

you need CP

put naga for now and show the deficit

[worn ridge]

She is c6

[tropic summit]

that's fine w/e just show CP

[glad meteor]

[worn ridge]

Im cooked

[tired root]

oh, you always want SWHA to burst first right lol, is there ever a use case in PVP where she doesn't burst first?

[worn ridge]

[tropic summit]

depends, show the CP, as long as you hit a certain deficit it's still fine

T3 2192k CP
T2 2166k CP

[glad meteor]

You can use her as a battery too. Sw is forced to have blanc or noah

[worn ridge]

Just use another nikke snow is good to burst with indom

[gritty ridge]

Rail you goober

All clips get quantum

Protect against whiff

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

yeah you're cooked, fight someone else

T3 can't be in that deficit

you tried

[gritty ridge]

Sg can lose a massive amount of Gen if they kill with like 1 pellet the rest dont gen

You slap quantum on to be safe

Can end up fake 2rl and burst the shot after when you normally would

[tropic summit]

what am i looking at here

[gritty ridge]

A better chance at bursting 2rl timing

[worn ridge]

He is. The only one i can fight

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/azumanga-daioh-osaka-2

[eager mountain]

shouldnt 0cs lib 2.5 rl gen be 19.6 (true 2.5rl) or 25.2 (0cs compred to 15cs rl "5*3f reduction" which is more like 2.6rl)
it accounted sw volley timing but appearently not libs lol

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/wake-up-roll-over-funny-cute-fall-gif-5293517

[glad meteor]

https://klipy.com/gifs/shikanoko-shikanoko-nokonoko-koshitan

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/nichijou-sleep-go-to-sleep-gif-16494920

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/kiss-35453

[tropic summit]

don't ask me i'm shooting range main

[glad meteor]

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/paripi-koumei-gif-25342395

[eager mountain]

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

[leaden canyon]

Well my defense got broken rail, I went back to my version, lets see how that plays out

6th place guy didn't fall for it

[tropic summit]

keep playing 4D chess with them, run weird things that work

[leaden canyon]

I know for a fact hes running a fast scar team with rapi and soline

[tropic summit]

good, you can prevent it with

2RL noah moran
2RL noise bayT
2RL indom

[eager mountain]

@bleak shale

[leaden canyon]

I'll try it if this version doesn't work

oh rival just attacked me lol

and its actually a bit different now

[bleak shale]

i dont think i did lib i was on a boat

can u send me a vid rq

[leaden canyon]

I think I scar nuke 3 right?

[tropic summit]

dafuq he finally rejected CP gapping you?

[shell hazel]

level 1 anis trolling

[tropic summit]

and that T2 is so weak

all you need is to run 0 p2 damage

[shell hazel]

best unit

[leaden canyon]

Wait its a problem if anis dies?

[tropic summit]

that's actually smart, he's trying to make him whif and deny burst gen

[tropic summit]

yes you'll whiff

[shell hazel]

surely you just send in some sg's and anti-scar?

they'll gen by hitting jackal

or SR's

[leaden canyon]

Well I have no idea what to do then sense hes never done this lol

[shell hazel]

p2 dead screws with some gen like with vesti or other RL

[tropic summit]

just bring units that do not need to rely on p2 dmg

[leaden canyon]

so sg team?

wont that make him like 1.3 RL

[shell hazel]

you can use snipers too like helmT

[eager mountain]

wont have CSless lib data anymore if using mine. the only 0cs record i had was from shooting range not arena

[glad meteor]

You have label

[bleak shale]

i think arena has different projectile timings

its kinda weird

[tropic summit]

give me their T3 we got so many units to spare

[tropic summit]

oh ffs

[leaden canyon]

yep

still that

[tropic summit]

good thing we still got biscuit and nayuta free

hmmmmmmm

yeah we lack CP for this regardless

[leaden canyon]

Could maybe kill noah?

[tropic summit]

kinda need an absolute-ish approach to this

[tropic summit]

try for the luls this T3, other 2 teams should be safe bet

if you already know you can indom scarlet even with trina, you can add trina instead of centi and give vigor to lappy

else keep centi to avoid misindom

also if scarlet stays linked with emi you can use emi instead of centi

[leaden canyon]

I have done it before with trina and the link stays

[tropic summit]

oke up to you

[leaden canyon]

I mean I still have enough damage without trina right?

[tropic summit]

i want you to indom because there's an off chance cindy and rumani get biscuit

normally you could scar trina rh emi jackal aswell here

but your rival is stacked on CS%, so expect always the worst

[leaden canyon]

Ok will just go with this I guess

Lap need burstgen cube?

[tropic summit]

scarl tempura
lappy tempura
blanc vigor
centi quantum
jackal quantum

you're kicked in 2RL via blanc

[leaden canyon]

blanc also has temp

vigor better?

[tropic summit]

won't need tempura here

p3 is only hit by swha

you can sub laplace for emi if she's better CP btw

you can procc biscuit faster on p3

although blanc will probably sudoku into biscuit s2 via counters anyhow

regardless use units you know can ensure link and indom on scarlet

[tropic summit]

low ammo scarlet? put indom vestiTU instead of scarlet

absolute suffers from the same issue anyway, noah around 10-15%ish HP

fix link as needed to ensure indom vestiTU @leaden canyon

rest run as is, he's gonna think you fumbled on T1 probably

he'll change only T2 if you clear now

[leaden canyon]

vesti and lap will be linked

[tropic summit]

sub lap for any similar burst gen, i guess you've lib or drakeT or similar

[eager mountain]

main sr hit resulting in 19.6 gen at 2.5rl should be the same regardless of add hits, even if volley projectiles has diff timing... it should only slightly affect 4rl gen (from 2rl to 4rl)

[tropic summit]

as for scarlet, i guess resil/bastion could've solved, but w/e

[leaden canyon]

lap should be fine because she has more health

so vesti gets link

[tropic summit]

you mean atk%

[glad meteor]

They just had slower indom

[leaden canyon]

wait is it a problem if lap is linked

[tropic summit]

they B2'ed? i didn't check

oh ye they did

that team needs to go @leaden canyon

need to kill SWHA and procc biscuit on blanc and rumani, so you can kill cindy and they've no B3

rosanna emi and scar will do that

or vesti instead of emi

[fast nest]

I was trying to suggest comp against moran and noah team but it seems there be high cp deficit.

[tropic summit]

T3 issue is just CP

[fast nest]

yeah. just giving it up as you suggeest seems better.

[tropic summit]

tbf T3 was almost doable

it's just that noah won't die because of CP

[leaden canyon]

worked

[gritty ridge]

Hehe

[tropic summit]

yeah should've rosanna'ed from the beginning

i guess doing 3 things at same time is making me distracted

i blame arknights waifus

[gritty ridge]

I had a misindom on biscuit one run, I assume she caught a scar counter

[leaden canyon]

I been playing that to

Made it to wuling

[tropic summit]

good sh*t so far, hope late game doesn't screw up

[leaden canyon]

I have so much recorded data I need to go through and put the ones that worked in a file lol

[tropic summit]

you're burning through his defenses like no tomorrow

even while gapped on multiple teams sometimes

he probably dreams of you or is a maso at this point

[leaden canyon]

I mean I'm the one geming him but even when I ignore him and he gets knocked by the other guy he only attacks me

[tropic summit]

so much love

[leaden canyon]

yep

[fast nest]

True love

[leaden canyon]

Feel the love

I need to go into his unions discord someday

[fast nest]

That toxic relationship could end in this incomming shuffle.

[tropic summit]

it's not dair who should fear the reshuffle, it's the others that should fear dair reshuffling in theirs tbh

[hollow lagoon]

[leaden canyon]

if it at least kicks the whale out then top 3 is fine, its awkward right now because none of us can attack the whale

[gritty ridge]

Youre next zant

[leaden canyon]

last time reshuffle didn't do anything though

I think my bracket is just going to be this

[hollow lagoon]

Better sync to peotecc my self then

[fast nest]

Actually they should fear you.

[leaden canyon]

SWHA is fine being in p5 as the only b3 for defense right?

[gritty ridge]

My rookie shuffled out 2 whales, so that may happen in my spa too

[hollow lagoon]

My rookie feels the same

Didn’t change much

[glad meteor]

[quartz vortex]

would win with this gap?

[glad meteor]

Sw burst is delayed

I think. You could lose

Nayuta can just tank your srs too

But you could kill liter I gues

SG on deficit is rough though

[gritty ridge]

Sg on deficit is free eats

Just use bisc

[umbral crown]

[glad meteor]

Ohayo

[umbral crown]

Hai

[keen vapor]

I hate how this almost cost me an attempt

I hit everything but her decoy

Got saved by clutch
-# team was on deficit

Ngl, recovering my position is fun with this guys

Too bad reshuffle is about to happen

[swift mango]

3rl Cindy can partially nuke 2rl Noah now.

[swift mango]

3rl Cindy can partially nuke 2rl Noah now.

[keen vapor]

This is nonsense

[umbral crown]

Centi bursting and you almost lose

[umbral crown]

I mean... you lost

[keen vapor]

NO NANODA!

[umbral crown]

How in the world echo

[keen vapor]

Woah, people at Nikke GG is getting lazy even at naming emotes

[umbral belfry]

it's a good day to be a velvet simp

[rustic sandal]

I can gap T1.

Probably can beat T3 using RLs and SWHA.

[keen vapor]

I skipped coins in rush

[umbral belfry]

[keen vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177116972593463316/1441497155465515008/1026322546934698004.gif

[rustic sandal]

This wins probably.

Yeah. Their T3 is slow. Jackal is only linked to Cindy. Idk man.

[umbral belfry]

t3 looks like a lose to me ngl

fast team with jack, centi, and helm likely other link (2 clip rls and + best burst gen in game), and your nayu is stunned. cindy is going to clear you

[rustic sandal]

Hmmm...
Ye. Then maybe I should fight T2 instead.

[hollow lagoon]

@umbral belfry

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/scissors-gif-11511235885924031825

[placid bloom]

her menu options are too sfw

only hand holding and hug

[umbral belfry]

aint nobody looking at the menu options

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

[hollow lagoon]

Ngv can’t yeet me for this one

[umbral crown]

context

[spiral onyx]

The premium options are on the other side

[swift mango]

their team 3 is hard to beat without protection. Try Bay and see if you had the CP.

[rustic sandal]

Hmmmmm... still thinking...

[swift mango]

You could wipe it quickly with Scar trina too.

[rustic sandal]

Hmm yeah. If I have them yeah.

[swift mango]

You could also beat it with Cindy and biscuit

if you don't wanna use bay.

post you box

[rustic sandal]

I can use Bay. Is skill investment okay? I can do the bare minimum.

[rustic sandal]

📫

Anyone past Tove there are shit units.

[swift mango]

Jackal+b1or3+Bay+flex/orB3+Flex

[rustic sandal]

No Jackal.

If you don't see it in this box, I don't have it.

Hell, the only ones I mainly use are on the first row.
Second row are tower units.
Third row are fillers. The good units end at Tove.

[swift mango]

could use Label to beat Cindy

[rustic sandal]

I didn't bother taking a second screenshot cuz they're ass.

[swift mango]

B3-b3-B3-b2-Label

label need skill investment

s2 to 4 or 7 if you could

[swift mango]

could go with
Nayuta+b2+B3+b3+label

[rustic sandal]

S2 is on 7 dw.

[swift mango]

yeah so assemble your team and let me see the CP.

[swift mango]

basically change Vesti/Helm/SW here into label

and put her p5

if enough CP you should be fine

[swift mango]

This should be fine, could use
Nayuta+Helm+Vesti+RH+Label
for more cp

[swift mango]

but this should beat it

[swift mango]

could I ask if you had CS on Vesti and HelmT?

[rustic sandal]

Only HelmT. Not a lot though.

VestiTU has like 2.5%. Her OL substats garbage.

HelmT has like 8%

[swift mango]

well you should be beating them fine

use the RH version for better CP and more tanky

[swift mango]

as for this team. You may beat it as is, if your Vesti could wipe them before Cindy done wiping you.

[rustic sandal]

Hmmm...

I'll try later.

[rustic sandal]

Yummy.

Okay how about this one?

Team 1 guaranteed win. Just need something to fight Team 2. Which is like a stall team.

[unique wagon]

Time to discuss TL aga-

[gritty ridge]

Nuh uh

[gritty ridge]

Hi pookie

[unique wagon]

How to place units in the TL

B2
Noah Biscu Blanc
Trina BayTr Nayuta Centi
Bay Anis Nero

B3
Emilia SWHA Vesti Helm Scarlet
Cindy
MiharaBC

Probably Mihara not S but

Its either XMaiden goes in SS, so Mihara can be S, or XMaiden goes in S, and Mihara goes to A.

Cindy Lib LaplaceTr should be SS

That leaves AdaW XMaid and Mihara

Im leaning toward Ada being in S because shes more of a support unit than a solo, and when she was released, people here com

[unique wagon]

What is your name even

-plained we rated her too high at SS so Im confused

I will just place her in SS

Maiden and Mihara can be in S

Hmm is Ada a filler or a carry though

[tulip quest]

ada is a support cause so many more better bursters than her unless u have no other better burst 3 option

[unique wagon]

But do people use Lib's burst

[tulip quest]

yea we do but not better than Vesti tho

[unique wagon]

Hmm ok

[tulip quest]

delayed + only 1 time can be noah blocked

[unique wagon]

Why does Bursting Ada bad

[glad meteor]

Single target and whether she beats biscuit teams depends on invul timing

But technically vesti and sw have that issue too if only one defender in that team

[tulip quest]

damage only 1 - 2 units within range

[unique wagon]

Hmm ok