pvp-arena

[wild hemlock]

Nike top we were same speed which lines up cause moran bursted but yeah bay stunned and lib nuked got deleted

Yeah idk my tier 3 is 2rl though

[shell hazel]

vesti can fail if something dies in 1-3 before she does her first few rockets

[wild hemlock]

Probably what happened I imagine

[shell hazel]

the scar team can go quicker with some CS

it depends on your cs vs theirs for this one

damn I got free shepherd girl

[gaunt pulsar]

wouldn't have saved his lib without bay if scar was slower or faster anyway

4 screenshots at a time

[oak hatch]

@gaunt pulsar did u see this account, new sync 200 with 4 ca wins already and never saw him in our bracket, do u think there’s a younger bracket than ours now or just bot farming?

[gaunt pulsar]

~34000 is the highest i've seen in ours, probably new. dont think i've saw anyone at 34300

[oak hatch]

So probably new baby bracket that’s filled with mostly bots?

This guys pretty close

[umbral belfry]

I'll trade u my max sw for your cs

[gaunt pulsar]

who knows i think 34k is already few month old at this point, but probably partially with bots

[umbral belfry]

that way we both win

[oak hatch]

Yeah that guy got super lucky with his account start date then, basically 100% ca win rate atp with his spending and amount of real players there

[gaunt pulsar]

when i started our bracket was full of bots too

[oak hatch]

I started playing in our bracket when there’s like 3/4 real players, except the players there had 2 months older advantage than me

Wouldn’t be surprised if that sync 200 player gets into the top 5 most ca wins in the next couple months if they don’t move him up a bracket

[fathom rock]

What is this nonsense
541?
Are you crazy?????

[hollow lagoon]

nah dude u make miracles happen

[fathom rock]

I can only hope to make it to 581 lmao

Damage is reliant on fps because rrh mihara stuff

[hollow lagoon]

dude ur units are 4 ele 4atk

[fathom rock]

I have 60 frames per minute

[hollow lagoon]

i'm here with 3 ele 2 atk rapi

[fathom rock]

Also imagine you simply have 7 more rrh dupes

[hollow lagoon]

nah man u dont use mihara use swha

[fathom rock]

That's crazy

[hollow lagoon]

nah man

i was playing friend's account

rhh+mihara not even close

rhh+helm very close

[fathom rock]

Go blame their build

[hollow lagoon]

rhh+swha killed it

it is what it is man

i personally killed it with rhh+helm

[fathom rock]

I gotta pass glut first
My XDiesel is born ready

[hollow lagoon]

glut is free win

[fathom rock]

I'm sync 504 you think?

[hollow lagoon]

ya?

i cleared it with 1 of my b3 being dead for 40 seconds

[fathom rock]

🐳

[hollow lagoon]

glut is free kill

the stages before glut with them stupid volleyball on spawn is harder than glut

[fathom rock]

That's my specialty tho

[hollow lagoon]

they finish charging before u get to touch them so by the time u get to touch them they already ready to bouncy bounce

[fathom rock]

I have my ways

I'll iframe their kamikaze if I have to

[hollow lagoon]

i think i killed it by just letting my team be in cover and let B milk do the work

since she dont need to shoot to proc the slamy slam

[hollow lagoon]

nah man u can do it 521 i just realized my anchor aint even max doll

[fathom rock]

521 will be like 1.3m cp
Thats over 40%

[hollow lagoon]

dude u the man ho do 60% deficit

40% is cake walk

[fathom rock]

ziz is not clear able on 40% tho

[hollow lagoon]

u make miricles happen i believe in u

then u gonna clear only one 541

[fathom rock]

You have too much hope in me

[hollow lagoon]

i have hope in ur level 15 tempering cube

i didnt even use tempering cube for my ziz fight

[fathom rock]

Not even lv7

[hollow lagoon]

its ok man u in stronk union level 10 after union raid trust

mean while 3 month later ill have level 10 resilliance

[fathom rock]

I focus pve cube tho

[hollow lagoon]

tempering is pve cube

u think i can clear only one at my sync without tempering

its possible but idk how to I frame a pulsing aoe

maybe its my punishment for non max doll mmast

[pale knoll]

[hollow lagoon]

[wind kelp]

Well, it's a start, when i get to her. 7/9/9. Should probably throw those 4 ol in. Eh, i'll get to it 😄

[shell hazel]

overload doko?

[wind kelp]

Hmm? Whatddaya mean? 😄

[gaunt pulsar]

10 ❤️ 💔

what if she gets treasure

[shell hazel]

doko = where
overload = overload

[shell hazel]

nah it's Marciana getting that no need to worry about it

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-goddess-of-victory-marciana-whipped-burst-animation-gif-1478976720450571588

[fathom rock]

Overload = A gear upgrade that is achievable by max leveling a tier 9 piece of equipment with manufacturer bonus that matches the manufacturing manufacture of the nikke it is equipped on, which is obtained randomly upon beating special interception or participating in a non kraken anomaly boss fight or via the selector in the recycling shop, then using a custom module to enchance it which is obtained upon beating special interception or by participating in Anomaly Interception. The benefits it gives you are more base stats and additional stats which you can modify using more custom modules.

[shell hazel]

thanks AI

Retrobot :0

retro I need more doll materials so I can treasure Miranda, what do you think I should do?

[fathom rock]

Wait for sr

[shell hazel]

[placid bloom]

just 1 tap blue kit

[marble saddle]

push your CP the highest possible)
you can go as far as 20-22% deficit
well i did as you advised

thats with laplace fyi

[shell hazel]

[marble saddle]

this is with Testi at p5

[wild hemlock]

I think my days of winning CA ever again are over take everything

[shell hazel]

yeah unless I get shuffled around not sure I can anymore either lol

[wind kelp]

Oh yeah, when i get the modules, see, i'm always out as i only get 2-3 a day 😄 Notably because i've been fixing Swol White. The good thing is that i got a bit lucky with 3rd slots, but i have to purge the charge damages for atk etc.

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/marin-marin-kitagawa-kitagawa-bisque-bisque-doll-gif-916671610781629467

yep sadge

[forest zodiac]

okay what the hell do I do here

[wind kelp]

1: fast scrlet, turbo mode
3: Probably noah siren libby some such pew
2: Jund'em.
(Advice from Nomhare are to be taken at own risk )

[gaunt pulsar]

[shell hazel]

wen Marciana? 😄

[glad meteor]

Wen Indeed

[lunar pawn]

kana got their first win

[forest zodiac]

do I dare to ask a bit into more details? its easy for me to screw up at basic stuff

[acoustic light]

@placid bloom the gang's back together again

[glad meteor]

Sbs team is 2rl, scar won’t work

Soda cooking?

[lunar pawn]

1st team you can use noah+tvesti
2nd team you can run indom+nuke

[forest zodiac]

yeah trying to build that

[lunar pawn]

honestly can do noise+noah+SWHA first team, 2nd team tvesti indom

[forest zodiac]

should this work?

[umbral belfry]

mine

[glad meteor]

[wind kelp]

Listen to the people that know more, i just went with what my initial brain went to 😄 Jund'em ofcourse meaning an attrition team with moran, cindy, helm, what have you "i'm just gonna chill and chip away while not dying".

[forest zodiac]

t3 is skip because its cp gap

[placid bloom]

just wait til we merge with XX

[gaunt pulsar]

looks good i think? dunno anything about 2nd one, but should outlive as your indom will last longer that their nayuta

[lunar pawn]

tvesti vs his t2, SWHA for his t1, check cp and check rl

[glad meteor]

Imagine biscuit s2 procs too late, but it shouldn’t lol

[forest zodiac]

why swap vestitu and swha?

[fast nest]

I saw his squads by accident and it made sense.
At early stage, where resources should be invested is important.

[umbral belfry]

lemme in there

[gaunt pulsar]

with swha it shouldn't he shoots at p5 and then 2nd one happens on burst with vesti idk

[lunar pawn]

his t1 has no survavibility outside noah, SWHA with her delayed shots should be enough to wipe him, alternatively you could even make thelm burst and SWHA offburst, should still win

his t2 will get cooked by tvesti, ravaging mihara+biscuit, who might not even proc

[shell hazel]

2d said no

[fast nest]

In our group, you have seen absolute squad do decent job but people barely invested it by far.
Instead, they invested moran nero or something shotgun.
Considering even our group goes on like this way, their group would be also same.

Absolute squad = minimum investment but decent result.
At the early game, investing and using absolute squad is very important.
Here is my reasoning.
CA is basically with 3 teams + 1 noah team+ 1 blanc team
If one of 3 team can win noah or blanc teams, your chance to win in CA match would escalate.
Examples: 1) scarlet soda 2) shotgun rosanna 3) absolute squad

Yes. He used an absolute squad and his is the one I suggested at the early stage.

[umbral belfry]

mods ban @formal quiver

[placid bloom]

maybe in 2 year when playerbase drop enough

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

Modernia: confirmed

[gaunt pulsar]

@forest zodiac go with @lunar pawn suggestion

[glad meteor]

True, should hope to activate biscuit s2 early is all. P5 being water weak is nice

[lunar pawn]

remember to record

[forest zodiac]

swapped vesti and swha

[marble saddle]

@tropic summit

[lunar pawn]

even if biscuit procs, that's 5s invul, and then cindy dies by tvesti harassment

[acoustic light]

we need him too fellow enjoyer

[forest zodiac]

thanks @lunar pawn and others

[acoustic light]

u can have radeki cup ace and dpx

[umbral belfry]

[glad meteor]

That vesti looks strong enough to me

[umbral belfry]

at least I'll still make CA

o wait no I won't

bullies

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/curse-on-you-golden-girls-angry-annoyed-sophia-petrillo-gif-18838273

[umbral belfry]

[acoustic light]

gotta 🐳 less on endfield

[umbral belfry]

am f2p

[formal quiver]

against her nature

[lunar pawn]

people who whaled via paypal on endfield on day 1 are the real winners

full refund + kept their stuff

[umbral belfry]

I shoulda spent on PayPal just to get refunded

[glad meteor]

[acoustic light]

shoulda downloaded the game faster

[umbral belfry]

get banned phoric

[acoustic light]

tbh i just dont get what there is too whale on since dupes are so bad

[lunar pawn]

I don't particularly care about "generic open world gacha number 506083" but I can appreciate it

[acoustic light]

yea its suprisingly fun

[lunar pawn]

from what I heard they're cheapskates with currency

[acoustic light]

maybe but ppl will always be upset about that sort of thing

[umbral belfry]

phoric has everyone at max core and weapons at max

[acoustic light]

ppl complained about wuwas at release event though its the best of them all rn

[acoustic light]

projecting

has the fire girl been fun to play

[oak hatch]

Yeah, it makes sense then with that beginners absolute team he would win easily, I tested the flora absolute team in my rookie and it works quite well. But sadly that team no longer works in our bracket, lots of the meta teams counter absolute now. I did notice u running Rosanna which seemed quite useful in absolute now for beating the bad matchups

[fast nest]

If you want to see his comp to prepare for the next CA (possibly you could meet if mixed) , I can send you it through PM

[shell hazel]

@tropic summit got me an Ember 👀

[umbral belfry]

yeh she's pretty fun ✂️

[oak hatch]

Yeah sure, although my teams are pretty much set for now since I don’t have resources to invest in other stuff. They might have a tough time in our bracket tho if mixed since lots of people invest hard in PvP here

[high stream]

@tropic summit He gave up for quite a while, but he's trying again to get his #10 back.
How does this look? It's a bit odd to me .. He switched in Lib and Drake in Team 1, but why? Lol.

[lunar pawn]

meme teams only work if you're the whale in your bracket

[static plaza]

Need help build a team to beat this
This is rookie

[lunar pawn]

if you try to do a funny the whales will just cp gap your new shoddy team and call it a day

[lunar pawn]

tvesti indom, noah can get siren'd

[static plaza]

Ty

[placid bloom]

tbh if I started WuWa on launch I would probably quit

launch char kit is so awful to play

and the first region is the most annoying to explore too

[fathom rock]

https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/1464351637060714749
Upvote pls if yall care about the 2x that got robbed from us

[lone sequoia]

i will be happy with +6 free rocks instead of nothing x2

[shell hazel]

I upvoted it

[shell hazel]

2 x 0 = 0

[noble python]

Time for the daily Challenger 3 beat down zzzz

[shell hazel]

that is my normal on full burst days

[lone sequoia]

+7 free rocks then

[noble python]

Box start here

[acoustic light]

thats fair I actually enjoyed 1.0 alot the echo overworld faming and stuff

but the patches after that were rough

wouldve likely dropped it if it werent for changli

[placid bloom]

yeah you can feel the gameplay diff even between earlier chars

[drifting schooner]

how do we use label in pvp?

[noble python]

@tropic summit

[placid bloom]

it's like playing lv1 laning phase in LoL, your skill have such high cd that you spend almost all your timing just using normal attack and movement

[lone sequoia]

you don't... or just a flex against 2RL scarlet or 2~2.5RL cindy

[placid bloom]

it don't feel like your char has anything unique

[shell hazel]

need 100 free rocks :9

[placid bloom]

100 free rock every day

[acoustic light]

I feel like jinshi and changli were saved kit wise bc of quickswap

[lone sequoia]

there is also a way to reduce enemy burst gen with reload dodge/whiff but that is just for RL teams that you know label will get stun and dodge some hits

[acoustic light]

Im not sure anything will ever beat changli design and character wise for me personally for a while

[lone sequoia]

what about 1k?

[placid bloom]

some char cannot be saved with quickswap though

like Shorekeeper, you have no choice but to normal attack for like 10s on her first rotation to build concerto

it feels so bad to play her after swapping to Morneye

[shell hazel]

nah I need 10K

shorekeeper sucked to manual

as good as she was

[acoustic light]

u pulled morneye

[shell hazel]

unfun to play tbh

[placid bloom]

she has such a boring kit with how high her cooldown is

[shell hazel]

I was just simping Cantarella for a bit

[lone sequoia]

just enough to get a good 1st line with 3 rocks reroll

[acoustic light]

https://klipy.com/gifs/my-man-my-man-hd-1

[placid bloom]

it's literally just spamming normal and then press R E Q outro

[shell hazel]

no locks though you gotta perm lock with rocks

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/bros-bro-high-five-dillon-duke-gif-12955092

[placid bloom]

Morneye actually feels like playing a combo dps

except her damage still peepee

cuz support healer

[acoustic light]

ig its fine if healer has basic kit

dont expect much as long as they look cool

and stellarealm looks cool

[placid bloom]

well after first rotation it is a lot better cuz her field time is shorter, and yeah Stellarealm is nice

just the first rotation feel like I'm playing lv1 ADC in lane with 1 skill

with 20s cooldown

it's so bad

[acoustic light]

wait do u have to do na to build up energy

[placid bloom]

it's 5 normal to fill forte, then enhanced HA

[acoustic light]

feel like a couple quick dodges in and its almost enough

[placid bloom]

it depends on enemy ofc

but some enemies take forever to even start attacking you

especially the early game ones or trash mob

[acoustic light]

not in ToA

[placid bloom]

so you don't even get to dodge counter

yeah but that's what I mean

newer enemy attack faster and give you more opportunity

like if this was Verina building concerto in 1.0

I would quit if that was her gameplay

[acoustic light]

just get her s2

[placid bloom]

it's like Genshin gameplay

press E Q R and then you have nothing to do until cooldown come back

[acoustic light]

who are u pulling next?

[placid bloom]

Aemeath

even if she suck

I am skipping the male dude, don't even know his name

[acoustic light]

lmao her design is nice

[placid bloom]

not even gonna look at his kit

[acoustic light]

wonder if youd like her gameplay

but waifu over meta

[placid bloom]

I mean I don't even have that many pulls to work with since I only started like 3 week ago or something

[fathom rock]

@noble python what's the power like on
Noah biscuit cindy helmT rumani
Vesti blanc SwHA siren jackal

[acoustic light]

well shes obv meta but atk string is very cutscene heavy

[placid bloom]

so I can only pull the newest char and hope it's enough

[small gale]

just confirming that snow white heavy arms' burst hits 3.2 sec after she actives burst?

[fathom rock]

Not always because the charge time of her current shot carries over

[placid bloom]

no

it is basically never 3.2s

you always partially charge when you cast

[acoustic light]

but you've been enjoying it 👀

[placid bloom]

I am fairly certain true 2RL SWHA nuke lands during true 2RL Noah burst window

[placid bloom]

only cuz of new char

[fathom rock]

It does

[placid bloom]

before Morneye release and Iuno rerun my team was Shorekeeper Lynae Encore, that team is so boring to play

except Lynae, she is fun

but Encore is like the definition of not fun kit

[fathom rock]

Wuwa used to be hard
But
Shouldn't ignore people when they ask

[noble python]

Which for which team?

[fathom rock]

Plan to use cind team vs scarlet and vesti team vs moran
Need to check power then links

[acoustic light]

aemy will save u soon

looks like should be good pulls next patch

[lone sequoia]

gacha games are not hard... only bs

[fathom rock]

Holograms used to be hard when no ways to one-shot them was available

Now i just do danjin solo to enjoy the combat

[placid bloom]

I mean they are still okay if you are fighting them while 20 level under

but if you are level capped they are probably not fun

even 10 level under is already a little easy

[fathom rock]

I did solo danjin ape while underleveled good times

[fathom rock]

Take the 2nd team into shooting range and screenshot the buffs on vesti, siren and snow white

[placid bloom]

I think most char are not that fun as solo char

it's also why I don't like co-op in these type of game as much

[tropic summit]

T1 noah biscuit cindy helmt rumani
T3 vesti blanc rh centi jackal, you're kicked in 2RL via feed

[fathom rock]

Solo danjin is my left fun

[fathom rock]

Almost same exact cook

[tropic summit]

tbf marin should clear these teams on his own now

this is an archetype we already helped marin with b4

someone getting lazy

[noble python]

Vesti and SWHA are linked

[fathom rock]

How much power on rail t3 cook

Probably vigor SwHA and you'll be fine there but better check all options

[tropic summit]

@noble python @fathom rock

#pvp-arena message

[tropic summit]

clear: #pvp-arena message

[fathom rock]

Not even much different

[fathom rock]

Just send it

After checking link

[noble python]

I won

[tropic summit]

ofc you did, we already cleared those

[noble python]

Not getting lazy I just couldn’t find what team we used last time lol

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

that's called lazyness , i literally just checked your sent pictures

[noble python]

Oh wait I can do that?

[tropic summit]

aye, do this next times before asking help

it's not because we don't wanna help you ofc, but you need to learn and try on your own too sometimes

[noble python]

Fair and mb I didn’t realize I could even do that

[tropic summit]

dw

[noble python]

So how exactly do I do that

For future reference

[tropic summit]

ctrl + f in this chat, then top right just type what you see in my SS

in your case:

@noble python followed by clicking on "image" as filter

[noble python]

Kk

Ty Rail-san

[fathom rock]

Ctrl
Some ancient tech?

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-high-five

[fathom rock]

Reshuffle in 5 days

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/takumi-nishijou

[glad meteor]

More like

[noble python]

Also I’m at 307 Sync

[fathom rock]

Is it one of these keyboard buttons
I'll go check my keyboard

[tropic summit]

you don't know yet, it's shrodinger reshuffle

• maybe you're isekaied
• maybe you get 2-3 new whales
• maybe nothing happens

[noble python]

My reshuffles is usually the 3rd result

[fathom rock]

It is omg

Pog

[tropic summit]

bah in my case 3rd option would be probably best case scenario

i fear what kind of whels lurk around the edges of my brackets

it could be a @hollow lagoon or a @umbral belfry

[noble python]

I’ve yet to see someone new shuffled in unless their at the very bottom

[fathom rock]

My brackets all cursed because I start at a major event

[hollow lagoon]

i got summoned

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/can-a-boy-girl-friendship-survive-danjo-2

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/super-action-news-thorti-soup-spoon-stare-gif-24054411

[noble python]

What pieces should I reroll on Libby to lethal?

[fathom rock]

Rail be grateful you started after me not before or at same time

[glad meteor]

2-3 old whales more like

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

thank you for your sacrifice, for real

[hollow lagoon]

i started at old tales was fine ish

[fathom rock]

Those gloves holding her cp back and there is little ca I'd probably work on that, there is place for cs on helmet too

[hollow lagoon]

ii know a bigger whale close to my bracket but he hasnt bergest into me yet

[noble python]

What is CA?

[tropic summit]

@fathom rock wait i'm confused, no full burst day yet?

[fathom rock]

Cs massive typo lmao

[hollow lagoon]

the rocks i got today

[fathom rock]

https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/1464351637060714749
Upvote pls

[tropic summit]

my god they were gonna do a funny one

[gaunt pulsar]

thats in 23h

[noble python]

It’s only the 23rd Rail

[tropic summit]

so it's safe to say i better wait 11hrs before doin' dailies

[fathom rock]

No

[noble python]

Full Burst is on the 24th

[hollow lagoon]

no its the korean 24

its always friday then sat for us

[tropic summit]

so it's in 24hours?

[fathom rock]

It already started bruh

[noble python]

Yes

[fathom rock]

So there is this thing called timezones

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

as it ever happened full burst day activated in the middle of the day btw?

[fathom rock]

No

[gaunt pulsar]

actually it does should have started but it's not in game

[hollow lagoon]

full burst activates at the reset

[tropic summit]

then we can't get trolled... right?

[hollow lagoon]

so they forgot to toggle on

[fathom rock]

100 rock compensation

I want

[tropic summit]

i swear i don't trust SU on this, gonna wait a few hours before i do any daily

[fathom rock]

Same I'll go beat ch38 instead

[hollow lagoon]

or do ur daily and get compensated

[fathom rock]

What's your camp prog rail don't make me check your prof

[tropic summit]

stuck at snek, i'm dedge at 2nd spray

once new chaps hit in feburary i'll clear it

can jump to either 521 or 541

[fathom rock]

Power?

[tropic summit]

sec let's see

[tropic summit]

with mmast

[fathom rock]

Yikes

[tropic summit]

with crown

[fathom rock]

Swap rrh for rouge?

[tropic summit]

i'm gated by its spray dmg, my own dmg is actually kinda there

[tropic summit]

ah yes my kinda-looking-grey-rouge just like my emilia

[fathom rock]

Do you make it to spray with fill hp and manchor helm heals

[hollow lagoon]

bold of you to assume he built a rouge

[tropic summit]

i dedge at the 3 sneks tbh

if i do clear those, i die 2 double spray

[fathom rock]

You can live that probably
Looks maldable but the spray after will prolly kill you

[tropic summit]

cuz i used up helmT and on CD for sustain

[tropic summit]

ye if i'd invest a ton of time i could maybe pull it off

[fathom rock]

I send you vid

[tropic summit]

but i figured it aint worth the stress if i'm 1 month away from 521 anyway

[fathom rock]

https://youtu.be/MJZugcQlUZc can u pull this off with rrh

[tropic summit]

i'm losing out on less than 9k-11k red dust compared to my rival

he can grab a level for all i care

[fathom rock]

[hollow lagoon]

ur rival passed?

[tropic summit]

he doesn't save up on boxes but he's between dolphin and whel

[hollow lagoon]

my rival is still at 32-32

[umbral belfry]

am f2p

[fathom rock]

Sir your rival is on a different server

[hollow lagoon]

let me check the different server one

[tropic summit]

me rival

91 skins, total chad

[gaunt pulsar]

you mean normal 32-32 right?

[tropic summit]

dis the korean guy right?

[hollow lagoon]

looks like it

[tropic summit]

i pity him

[fathom rock]

Good malder

Wait is this NA

[hollow lagoon]

The Chinese

[fathom rock]

Looks global

[hollow lagoon]

i'm global

[tropic summit]

ye zant is a global threat

[fathom rock]

How are they rivals if
If you're double their sync

[hollow lagoon]

i'm not double their sync

i'm only 160 over

[fathom rock]

Only

[hollow lagoon]

it aint 200

they can pull retro magic and out clear me prob

i can smell it

[fathom rock]

It's not magic it's mald and ele dmg

[hollow lagoon]

the red chinese guy got mirrior container interception clear before i did

[fathom rock]

Not surprised if you still believe in crit that much

[hollow lagoon]

more like

if i cant roll ele then it is what it is

[tropic summit]

zant is the type to be living in his large ass mansion, but gets worried a guy with a roulotte pulls over close by

[hollow lagoon]

also crit build totally works

[fathom rock]

[hollow lagoon]

tf is this

[tropic summit]

winner

[hollow lagoon]

that looked cursed af

[tropic summit]

it's just slow cindy

with elec immunity pre 2.5RL

[hollow lagoon]

and no dot

[tropic summit]

aye

[hollow lagoon]

shrug of the shrugiest shrug

[tropic summit]

you say that but he got pretty far

surely not because he got team ordering favoured or anything

[hollow lagoon]

i feel like i struck gold with my sets

even hard countered on positioning the guy who took me out needed to win coin toss with soda

[tropic summit]

C0 against C7 hard counter may not be the same as same or similar C hard counter

[fathom rock]

Sir the one using soda doesn't need to win the rng
You're the one who needs to win it

[hollow lagoon]

u mena c5

[fathom rock]

How many Cs zant have

Not charge speed

[hollow lagoon]

my average is around the c5 range

[fathom rock]

That's......

[hollow lagoon]

my charge speed is mid ish?

[fathom rock]

Ig they compensate for the bad rolls

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-tired-3

[hollow lagoon]

cant cheat rolls like you

[fathom rock]

Make space for me

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/iochi-mari-iochi-mari-skill-issue

[hollow lagoon]

havent pilgrim in 3 weeks feels kinda dry

[fathom rock]

I pulled nayu from pil mo

My 13x losing streak is broken

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/completly-normal-phenomenon-chernobyl

zant experiencing the average lag experience

[hollow lagoon]

i need more cores on isabel

and grave

and sbs and nayuta and lib

[tropic summit]

and your sister

[hollow lagoon]

who;s my sister again?

[tropic summit]

#pvp-arena message

[hollow lagoon]

dayum i always wanted a sister

[hot shuttle]

Anyone know a good counter measure to this team? Jackal/SWHA/blanc/Vesti:tac/Thelm

[hollow lagoon]

tape ruler so liter or centi

[fathom rock]

Fighting a different team 2rl rapi indom

Just make sure your rapi and blanc don't die

[tropic summit]

le rosanna or high fire rate indom B3

[hollow lagoon]

absolute set vesti blow up their blanc easy win

[fathom rock]

P1 rrh would get destroyed by the splash lmao

And the link with it

[hollow lagoon]

idk why u pick them weirdly difficult decisions

[fathom rock]

Fun

[hollow lagoon]

its a single buff vesti indom, just salad it

[tropic summit]

it's actually SWHA B3 tho

[hollow lagoon]

even better

but the safest way is to just blow their blanc into oblivion on absolute set

and they cant burst and u win

[tropic summit]

he could scarlet vestiTU trina emilia jackal for p3 murdering approach i guess

[hot shuttle]

Could a Rosanna team work maybe?

or maybe that team

[hollow lagoon]

rosa would work

[tropic summit]

vesti in p4 won't be very low on HP, so you could leave her alive

[fathom rock]

Me when ross kills 2 b3s and the 3rd one screws u over :

[tropic summit]

also ye there's still helmt bursting

[onyx scaffold]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1012288696336273428/1388455514282917958/E6B405C23E354A398A80842BA80B4D9D_0.gif?ex=697494f6&is=69734376&hm=3162e2b80a8f30fdbba9c771c8b3b675d55effb6215c9adbf9f176a03d635800&

[hollow lagoon]

that positioning suggest vesti gonna live after rosa

[hollow lagoon]

well i didnt get this

[tropic summit]

ye gonna be hard to lethal there

[hot shuttle]

Would Scarlett/trina/centi/rosanna/jackal work?

[hot shuttle]

Or would that be too weak?

[tropic summit]

t2 may die to early damage

[onyx scaffold]

Still a weak team in defending

[hollow lagoon]

problem with rosa is u deal with a indom jackal and a alive vesti, so u need to live that some now

[tropic summit]

he's attacking

[hollow lagoon]

do we just send a salad and see if it works?

[hot shuttle]

That team, I will never use for defending only attacking

[hot shuttle]

Maybe try this team first?

[tropic summit]

here's the options imo (i didn't put indom 2RL cuz that's boring)

[fathom rock]

Blanc rrh jackal biscuit SwHA

[hot shuttle]

ok i’ll try those team

[tropic summit]

option 1 and 2 are interesting

• 1 will delete link and stall p1 for helmT in case she lives
• option 2 kills blanc pre burst, in theory

option 3 don't do it yet imo, at that point try mirror indom instead

[fathom rock]

2.5rl indom

Snow is the bursting one anyway

[hot shuttle]

Do you want me to record it? Cause last time when you were helping me with that guy with the higher CP u wanted to see the recording really bad

[tropic summit]

well ensure you're not on deficit ofc, multiply enemy CP for 0.846 and check u're above

if you're not on deficit, sure record them

gives us info on their CS% too

[fathom rock]

Rail disapproves indom

[tropic summit]

if you running T1 ensure rosanna is linked btw

[tropic summit]

it's cuz it's too easy

[hot shuttle]

Yeah, the guy is only 10 levels higher than me so CP shouldn’t be a problem

[tropic summit]

noice

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

leaving here slower indom option if 1 and 2 don't clear

[hollow lagoon]

should be cursed enough

[hot shuttle]

ok thanks btw do y’all know what the problem is with the double rewards today?

[tropic summit]

[hot shuttle]

It should’ve started hours ago, but it hasn’t started yet

[hollow lagoon]

drake diesfast to water sniper

[fathom rock]

Dev said it today
It snot today
Thats all

[fathom rock]

And feeds enemy to 1.5rl defeating the entire purpose

[hollow lagoon]

they can be whatever rl as long as noah blocks it

[hot shuttle]

oh well, that never happens ever so hopefully they’ll compensate us maybe or give us an explanation on why they decided not to do it today

[fathom rock]

Imagine Dies from 2nd snow shot

[placid bloom]

Not the first time they forgot something

[fathom rock]

Just look at Champ-

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

beta season 100 when?

[fathom rock]

[hollow lagoon]

they cant stop the beta stuff untill some one gets the full crown

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

looks yikes as hell

[tropic summit]

time for RRH to get a shower

[fathom rock]

Bro left morna nero and scar soda just to run ts

[hollow lagoon]

are you sure ur slow enough to win it?

[tropic summit]

it's natural 2RL

[fathom rock]

Yes

[tropic summit]

in fact retro will feed them to be slightly faster

[fathom rock]

I'm feeding him + I'm not natural 2rl

[hollow lagoon]

its indom on indom

[hollow lagoon]

indom on indom just feels derpy

[tropic summit]

lmao the biscuit 2nd stack was gold but you actually outlived via lifesteal too

enemy vestiTU a bit bricked

[fathom rock]

Free

[hot shuttle]

Yeah, the first two team got wiped out the third one worked.

[fathom rock]

Outliving indom vesti is possible?

[tropic summit]

so you were never lethal on both linked units uh, sadge

but that's the problem with vestiTU in p4, you need a stacked rosanna to 1hitko

[hollow lagoon]

u didnt sac for the rosana?

[tropic summit]

ye non ada indom vesti can be non lethal on moran, dair showed a vid before

[hot shuttle]

Yeah, also i’m not sure if it’s relevant but my snow white is kinda weak. It’s skill level 7-7-8. Also, it’s head OL I just got yesterday and it’s only level four.

[tropic summit]

you can actually kite her

or i think it was doppel

[fathom rock]

Can't believe no one runs indom Mg to beat me

[hollow lagoon]

kek?

[tropic summit]

@fathom rock found it #pvp-arena message

you can't kill an idiot who doesn't know how to die

[hot shuttle]

My Rosanna is 7-7-10 skill level. And it’s attack from OL is 40.20%

[tropic summit]

damn that's actually well built already

[hot shuttle]

Yeah, someone on Reddit told me to build it last year, so I invested quite a lot to it.

[fathom rock]

I love my moron time to try a new def comp with moran in it to mess with the one dude who tries to beat me

[tropic summit]

well she's situationally useful on SP arena and good in CA, not a bad decision

[fathom rock]

Glad there is good info on reddit

[quartz vortex]

is label a prio pvp unit or not really?

[hollow lagoon]

not prio

but good side parry dagger kind of thing

[fathom rock]

So what stops a vesti from killing noah if I choose to run this

[hollow lagoon]

have a core 7 noah la?

[fathom rock]

Son of a-

[hollow lagoon]

let me see if a solution exist

[quartz vortex]

counter it with a core 7 vesti xd

[hollow lagoon]

hard life bro?

[fathom rock]

Very, it takes 1 rosy boi

[hollow lagoon]

if u tell me u dont have c7 helm u need to redeem your self

[fathom rock]

I have c6

[hollow lagoon]

Time to pull

[fathom rock]

I fear the 6k

[tropic summit]

C6 best C, cuz you may get one randomly anyway

[hollow lagoon]

Helm used in raid PvP pve

And in bed

[hot shuttle]

Yeah, she’s useful for certain situations in SP arena

oh btw I thought I should let you know for some reason MJ stop spam attacking me. And I’m still in Challenger three as long as I could collect the chip points, I think I’ll be able to still get 3000 gems.

[fathom rock]

I got 3k once in my whole life

[slate falcon]

I’ve reading and learning a little bit about the PvP and this the comp I came up with. (Do I need any changes?)

[hot shuttle]

What’s your current ranking?

[hollow lagoon]

@fathom rock been running this version since the girl failure canceled drunklet, can replace helm with swha

[upbeat dock]

I think my pvp rival quit nikke for arknights.. he hasn’t logged in for 2 days now so i haven’t been attacked at all.. actually feel sad 😔

[fathom rock]

C6

[hot shuttle]

oh I see is the person in C3 on your list are there a level pretty high than yours?

[fathom rock]

Only by 80

[hot shuttle]

Oh, damn that’s a pretty big difference hopefully the reshufflw that’s happening in a couple days will help you out

[hollow lagoon]

Hopefully refhuffle don’t send me some where too scary

[gaunt pulsar]

interesting, time to check from time to time in my, seems like whale in our bracket also didn't logged for 2 days doubt he will quit though

[upbeat dock]

Yeh, we’ve been consistently attacking each other for months, then it just suddenly stopped.. lines up with arknight release so i assume it was that

Oh well, ez challenger 1 now i guess

[onyx scaffold]

Why do emma and eunhwa need SR15?

[hollow lagoon]

So they don’t die I guess?

[teal ledge]

Hey fellows, what’s a good counter for this one?

[upbeat dock]

Indom comp

[hollow lagoon]

Siren

[lusty gull]

they don't really need, well, maybe emma because scarlet counter attack but it's less important nowadays

it's still better to sr15 but sr5 is ok

[teal ledge]

@upbeat dock nope

@hollow lagoon stun Noah?

[hollow lagoon]

Yes

Stun and wipe with aoe

[teal ledge]

Yeah good idea

Idk I think his SW and red hood might take siren out

[hollow lagoon]

How

U put sirenn p1? lol?

[teal ledge]

Oh duh

[teal ledge]

Yeah that work good haha. I used Noah biscuit siren Cinderella SWHA

[hollow lagoon]

[teal ledge]

Thanks brotha

[hollow lagoon]

[hardy bison]

Hey all, any suggestions on dealing with these teams? https://prnt.sc/tL6P4kgZBT1k https://prnt.sc/abpGAulm9B7d

[quiet fiber]

What team should I use against this?

[ancient sun]

Rosanna VestiTU are good in both cases

[tropic summit]

for T1, you can

noah biscuit vestiTU siren helmT

for T2, you can

noise noah helmt vestiTU/SWHA/laplaceT jackal

[glad meteor]

Rosanna invested?

[tropic summit]

you can prevent their indom from going off and get your own indom or just anti nuke them while still stunning

• noah biscuit helmt siren vestiTU/SWHA/laplaceT

or

• jackal swha blanc centi siren (swha lower HP than siren)

whenever you see a blanc in p1, you can always stun her with siren

unless they've wild CS% either way

[quiet fiber]

Unfortunately no.

[glad meteor]

11%CS can evade siren maybe

[tropic summit]

ye i haven't seen a blanc avoiding siren yet, but since noah can i imagine a blanc can too

[glad meteor]

This should win even if siren doesnt stun. Since slow indom

[ancient sun]

@tropic summit Can Siren stun Noah in any position or only in p1?

[tropic summit]

yep, safer pick if opponent suspected of high CS%

[glad meteor]

Worst case is vesti reloading

[hardy bison]

Don't have Rosanna invested yet

[hardy bison]

I'll try this out, thanks.

[tropic summit]

noah in p1 is stunnable by siren in any position, assuming they don't have a noise taunting you in p1 or p2, then only p3 p4 p5, and assuming opponent isn't 11CS% team wide
noah in p2-p3-p4-p5 is only stunnable by siren in p1 or p2, as you gotta get taunted to hit her

keep in mind 2RL noah on 11CS% team wide or with a moran B1 will be siren immune regardless of positioning
same applies to a noah p2 with noise taunt priority

[glad meteor]

Could do something like this too

Vigor cube on rh and helmt

[ancient sun]

By team wide 11CS you mean on Noah? And why she avoids stun?

[tropic summit]

@glad meteor the day SU decides to add a unit that boosts fire rate pre burst it's gonna buff siren to stun pre 2RL

i wonder if they ever will

[ancient sun]

I just wanna SG unit that hits through invlun

[tropic summit]

because you're then around 1.9RL, which is enough to cast B2 before B2 is stunned
siren fire rate is static, she can't fire faster... but you sure as hell can burst a tad sooner (frames)

[ancient sun]

like this? xD

[hardy bison]

I forgot my Noise isn't invested, got any other suggestion?

[tropic summit]

check where your B2 is bursting, if it's before the redline you're good to go

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

rapunzel or rumani

[glad meteor]

Just wait till they make pvp 60fps one day

Just because they said so lol

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/winterz-soon

[worn ridge]

Nah that's imposible

[ancient sun]

This tool is so useful

[quiet fiber]

I tried the 2nd team and it worked. Though it looked pretty close.
Anyways, thanks for the help Railtracer & Kara.

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

yeah they had CS%, @glad meteor you sussed right

you won the indom trade via ammo count it seems

your opponent isn't f*ing around

[glad meteor]

Pvp gonners

[glad meteor]

For a while it was faster than 30fps when they introduced the fps setting for pve. Siren was stunning before second rl shot

[ancient sun]

Yeah 60 fps, imagine Scarlet Trina Jackal killing Siren before she even breaths

[worn ridge]

That explains why they nerfed it

[umbral crown]

Kara cookig

[glad meteor]

Rail cookig

[tropic summit]

Rosy cookig

[rich quail]

cookig clss

[tropic summit]

@glad meteor 1 more broken burst gen unit and we're close to ultra toxic btw

oh nvm it already is possible

how badly you want to piss off your rookie level: Yes

[umbral crown]

Im old

Now the young people is cooking better than i i could

Thats rail

[tropic summit]

you're still young and kickin'

you can call yourself old when you've won CA 5 times like blood

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

he has a foot in the grave already

[umbral crown]

[hollow lagoon]

[keen vapor]

I'm not old? : DoroWutDaHel:

[tropic summit]

young and healthy, you've 60 years ahead of you of working to do

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

by the time you reach 40 the world life standards will have raised to 110 years old, so you can work up to 80

[keen vapor]

: Poggies 2 idk:

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/shikanoko-nokonoko-koshitantan-torako-koshi

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/shikanoko-shikanoko-nokonoko-koshitan

[glad meteor]

https://klipy.com/gifs/shikanoko-shikanoko-nokonoko-koshitan

Midnight soon here

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/koshi-torako-shikanoko-23

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/everknight-evernight

midnight? how about evernight

[glad meteor]

Gacha?

[keen vapor]

No, I don't want to gacha PVP battles

[tropic summit]

you're literally living in a gacha

[glad meteor]

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

the world is a lie, you're the main character of your story

||the only problem is that you're 1 star rarity character ||

[keen vapor]

So I need to farm to upgrade my stars, gotcha

[tropic summit]

good luck

[keen vapor]

don't worry, BA already teach me the way

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/fbi-kana

[glad meteor]

So safe to say no fb

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/i-know-what-kind-of-man-you-are-moist-i-know-what-kind-of-mand-you-are

[keen vapor]

You can upgrade the useless characters stars there

[tropic summit]

are you saying you can relate

[keen vapor]

No

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/run-1036

[rustic sandal]

Huh...

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/easy-button-1

[rustic sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-archive-plush-koharu-shimoe-no-gif-17791975049742690156

[tropic summit]

imagine scoring defense win without blanc, jackal and noah

[keen vapor]

lol, weird to happen but satisfying

[tropic summit]

yuki ultra chad mode

[rustic sandal]

Yeah. At least the Dia 1 players are out of my sight.

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

he gone cookig

[umbral crown]

Waos

[rustic sandal]

[hollow lagoon]

Ngv gonna yeet you

[keen vapor]

A lovely puppet

[tropic summit]

fine i'll remove for safety measure

[keen vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-archive-plush-koharu-shimoe-no-gif-17791975049742690156

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-anime-girl-164

[hollow lagoon]

[keen vapor]

Don't you like puppets?

[rustic sandal]

Against a big spender as well.

[tropic summit]

winning upon winning

[tropic summit]

[rustic sandal]

Now it's just uh... uh...

Nah. I'm gonna do this again once my Crown is Full OL at 10/10/10.

[tulip quest]

you don't have cindy?

Snow H.A?

[rustic sandal]

Low CP.

[tulip quest]

K

[rustic sandal]

Low investments.

Maybe once my Cindy gets a purple RL doll.

Yay or nay? I pretty much gap this guy.

Wait no. I'll save my attempt for later.

They're all asleep when it's evening. I'll strike at that time.

[tropic summit]

T1 win
T2 much win

[rustic sandal]

Noice.

[upbeat dock]

It’s been two months.. no blue RL doll

I can’t even spend money to get it, even if i wanted to whale

[tropic summit]

how the f

[rustic sandal]

Too bad I can't beat Siri and 789O.

Ah WTF? Why is cheering so hard?

I won all cheers except the Finals.

Now I'm back to square one again.

[upbeat dock]

Lol.. i haven’t even got the “lose all cheers” let alone the win all

[upbeat dock]

Yeh.. went through the last two solo raids with zero RL drops, blue or purple

Starting to really piss me off

Purple at least has the option to swipe for

But paying money to put a zero star purple on something feels dirty

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

SR lv0

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/the-office-michael-scott-104

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/koiseka-anime-blush

[umbral crown]

check the doll not the things

[tropic summit]

sorry i was distracted

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

[umbral crown]

Happens

[umbral crown]

So at the end we did not get FB weekend

[umbral belfry]

big scam

[tropic summit]

i'm gonna wait until the middle of the day, if it still doesn't happen i'll just do my dailies

🍿

[umbral crown]

I will do them, if anything they just need to add 1 more day

Your mid of day is like my 8 am

[tropic summit]

[upbeat dock]

if anything, you would want to do your dailies asap so that you might have a chance to double dip

theres no shot that they switch it on and say, "well those who missed out are out of luck, suck shit"

[swift mango]

illusion of generous, the did one week fb before so they need to subtract it somewhere, that somewhere is no fb for 2 months.

expect the next fb day in valentine event.

Korean company is very calculating the detail.

Only in this gacha game do I feel the resources balance across months movement. The CN gacha, I don't feel it., it's all over the place.

The quota for fb days should be 4 a month excess it and they subtract it to the next months.

[shell hazel]

or just every damn weekend like we need

[swift mango]

Koreaners are often stingy.

It comes from culture and society system.

can't change it

just accept it

[tropic summit]

can't have too many resources now can we, gacha game is based on being as stingy as possible to make people spend to get those advantages to mitigate it afterall

basic gacha strategies

[tropic summit]

someone is grinding on arknight pretty late in the night eh

[spark granite]

Hi this one is tough, the opponent last team, 2 of my teams can beat but the first 2 teams I’m having issues with

[tropic summit]

synchro 728, holy moly

[swift mango]

CN games can be stingy but they aren't that calculative. If surprise occasion happened, they give extra rewards, and no subtract them from future event. It's cultural thing.

[spark granite]

Ya they were easy to snipe before but ever since snow white it got difficult

[tropic summit]

CP requirements out of the way meanwhile:

T1 2.542k
T2 2.487K
T3 2.417k

speedwise T1 and T2 are 2RL, T3 is 2.5RL via CS% most likely

T1 is directly weak to noah biscuit cindy helmt rumani

T2 would be weak to vestiTU stall and/or indom, but probably a well invested moran

T3 is weak to many things

[spark granite]

Maybe that’s why I can easily beat team 3

[umbral crown]

as i thought, 1 more day extended

[tropic summit]

the issue is just rosa on 2.5RL which still will kill attacker unit

[tropic summit]

could mitigate it with 3 attackers i guess

[swift mango]

spending a bit extra time to code so free pulls doesn't give mileages is already a red flag.

[tropic summit]

for reference what you using to clear T3

so i already know which units to not take for T1 and T2

try with this and record

notes for T1: midhara highest atk% in that team (should be by default)
cubes for T2:

nayuta any
trina quantum
helmT quantum
VestiTU quantum
rosa any

rosa is assumed 7/10/10 atk OL 40%
vestiTU is assumed at least 4CS%

[spark granite]

Thank you very much. I’ll give it a try when I get home tonight.

[upbeat dock]

What is this.. I was promised 100 rocks

[swift mango]

for 100 day of play

[swift mango]

4% not 5% now?

[tropic summit]

4,5%

[swift mango]

I mean the mileage for Vesti is 4% not 5%?
Maybe she behave differently then.

[tropic summit]

it's 4% as far as i know

i used to run 8% but some lad told me 4% was enuff

then showed me le vid and he was bursting fine on 2RL

[swift mango]

Please don't listen to strange advice and use it to advise others without verification.

4% is basically 2%. There is no difference in how Vesti uses CS.

[brave silo]

Please give me a team for special arena, I have all nikke, no abnormal

[tropic summit]

now put it in a team with other CS% units

if we talking about 2RL and 2.2RL it's one thing, if we talking about 2RL and 2.5RL then i'd agree

[tropic summit]

here you go, prefer 2RL teams and teams with SWHA/vestiTU

#pvp-arena message

[swift mango]

Well put it yourselves but 4% is 2% so if you wanted to advise 4%, just go with 2% instead. If you wanted 5% with cube, go 3%.

Or just 0%+ Cube is already equal 4%

[tropic summit]

1st and 2nd are with 8%CS and 4%CS
3rd is with 0%CS

[swift mango]

0-2-5-8 are the mileage.

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

i don't get it, i think blood is just drunk

not gonna spend a minute more on this

[brave silo]

What a pain, I got one team now, but I need 2 more

[tropic summit]

1 indom
1 noah-biscuit
1 stall

jackal indom flex blanc centi
noah biscuit flex flex flex
moran flex flex flex flex or noise flex flex bay flex

[brave silo]

I didn't invest on centi tho

[tropic summit]

any clip RL

or just flex with clip SG burst gen tier

pick ur poison

[swift mango]

What you don't get? Position matter. The 4% and 2% is the same. Just change 4% in your pic of the chart to 2%.
The 4% you showed is exactly my pic of 2% if it was p3-4-5.

0% just equip her with adjustant cube

[brave silo]

Feel like I'm learning math

[tropic summit]

or post your box and we can give you 3 teams

may be easier on you

[tropic summit]

no what i meant is, 4% vestiTU is 2RL or 2.2RL, but definitely not 2.5RL, is that correct?

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

2% make her 2nd shot at 2rl if she was p3-4-4

In your pic

[brave silo]

Here is some that I put in sync

[tropic summit]

ok, meaning it doesn't matter then if she's 4% or 5%

if you still 2RL in time for B2, that 1% you gain for those extra frames won't matter

[swift mango]

I mean don't need to ask people to get 4% just tell them to get 2% or equip adjustant cube

Tier 1 CS is 2%

[formal quiver]

is there a source for that other than nikke.top

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta naga helmt rh drakeT
• jackal vestiTU laplaceT noir blanc
• moran siren swha lib noah

Notes

• wishlist trina, rumani, centi
• build utilities, especially biscuit, noise, noah

[tropic summit]

blood... i'll be honest with you... who the F has 2% over 4%... and why would they keep a 2%CS OL even...

either they got 0 or 4 or 8

maybe they get 5-7, because 1 is 4 and the other is 3 or 2

but realistically, who keeps a 2%CS

[brave silo]

Why should I wish list them when I have all 3 bodies, it's just that I didn't invest in them, sadly

[swift mango]

Some one who has blue line on other 2 and tier 1 CS and don't want to waste more rock?

[tropic summit]

i don't see them in your SS so i assume you don't have them, hence wishlist
if you do, then build them, they're pvp core units for burst gen

[tropic summit]

if they're trying to pvp they realistically won't keep a 2%CS line come on

just assume they've at least 4 or 8%, if they don't that's why i tell them to get at least 4%

[brave silo]

Well, PvP is hard then the hard chapter I play so far

[tropic summit]

at that point, as you said, adjutant can fix as needed

[tropic summit]

no pvp is dumb as hell, you need 2 teams to climb to challenger, afterward maybe 3 teams

[brave silo]

Will this work on attack and defend?

[swift mango]

I do keep a tier 1 line sometime because I don't have rock to 2 lock reroll.

[tropic summit]

attack is based on what you facing, those are def teams

[brave silo]

Can I use to attack too?

[tropic summit]

source for what? burst gen?

https://nikke-deck.web.app/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11KWYeyvef91A-vfFuqglJJ8-OhR90TcKFVpJ6Ny_5h4/edit?gid=1990278246#gid=1990278246
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JUiiuHysG3vlWRPVx_wT6zUwkc5Ob9n8G0azCbuwlA8/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[tropic summit]

if you've no clue what you doing yes

[formal quiver]

no im saying 2-5-8-11-15-18 isnt correct for vesti

just cuz you saw it on nikke.top doesnt mean its correct

[brave silo]

Alright, I use it randomly

[tropic summit]

not as far as i know, although units with specific CS% you can count them on your fingers

[swift mango]

4% needs to be at least tier 7 CS. And sometime I needed 20 rocks to 3 rock roll a tier 1 to tier 7.

[tropic summit]

@formal quiver

vestiTU needs 4-8%CS
helmT is fine on 8%CS
emi is 8% or 16%, or 25% if you're brave
rest of the batteries are 15%, 11% for siren resistance if team wide

[formal quiver]

thats not what im talking about

[tropic summit]

?

[formal quiver]

blood is talking about thresholds for saving 1 frame because hes using nikke.top as a reference

but theyre wrong for vesti and lib

[tropic summit]

there you go, you could get along @swift mango

[brave silo]

Thank for the team

[tropic summit]

you welcome

[swift mango]

How do you know.

[formal quiver]

u can frame count. but also u can do 30 fps cs math. theyre different full charge times than other RLs and SRs

you cant just assume theyre the same cuz thats what top says

[swift mango]

Yes, they have different full charge time but how do you know Nikke.top is wrong.

Do we have a meta thread or discord for those formula.

[formal quiver]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1438671724383178882/1446246840621338795/image.webp?ex=697534d4&is=6973e354&hm=bef163292624aa282c3f9438d7f5f5cdd08af8087f59513e510462a9658dd572&=&format=webp&width=283&height=873

vesti

[swift mango]

It could be logical if 5% for others is 3% for Vesti and so on.

[formal quiver]

lib

[brave silo]

I try it, and it work too on attack, at this point, I should upgrade some of them, should I give them defend ol?

[tropic summit]

you should do what i told you in the notes

[swift mango]

Is this yours self chart? CS don't really change RL speed every frame though.

[tropic summit]

build your utilities, trina, rumani centi, biscuit, noise noah

aim for 4/4/4 at least, R15 into SR5 and 4OL gear

[brave silo]

alr, I put them in sync

[tropic summit]

your other B3s are pretty well built so they'll be fine

it's your utilities that will bring your CP down atm, so fix those and you're gud

[brave silo]

I love burst 3

[brave silo]

Since I'm lack of stone, and resources , I don't think i could get 4ol

[tropic summit]

that's no problem, take ur time building them up, those 3 teams will do for now

[swift mango]

Also, 4 isn't a threshold in this chart. It's 5% the same.

4.5% is 5%.

[formal quiver]

yes for vesti they round to halves

the right column is the frames it releases

[swift mango]

This is kinda nonsense. The game rounding to nearest number already bs but proven true. And now you tell me the game round to 0.5

[brave silo]

Wait, what if I put crow

[formal quiver]

it rounds to whole numbers with units with 1s charge time

[tropic summit]

yes you can put crow, in the chimney

[formal quiver]

alright fine dont believe me lmao but dont go talling poeple to not beleive nonsense when youre following nikke.top like its the bible without framecounting yourself

[swift mango]

If you round to 4.5 it will be different math and 4% meaning 3.54 to 4.04 isn't 4.5%. I don't need to believe you but telling people 4% is fine is also wrong in this contest

And the next tier after 4.04, 4.56 is also 5% is the current math.

So whatever math you used telling people 4% being a threshold is wrong.

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

so whats the breakpppint for vesti over 17%

18.5?

[swift mango]

If the game actually round CS to 0.5% for Vesti only before calculate the match. We would need to use a whole another math for CS.

3.54 is 4% for example before sum up. We would them need to be changing to 3.54% is 3.5%.

Or was it 3.45? That's not 3% but 3.5% now

The game is doing a whole different math for Vesti alone is just hard to believe.

And the game already not do threshold for every 1% already, it's 0-2-5-8. Not 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8.

Much less, 0.5-1-1.5-2-2.5-3 like he said.

[swift mango]

@formal quiver

[umbral crown]

do the math for me, you are the expert

[swift mango]

We you need different threshold for the math now since eher since the game rounding to 0.5 and 1 not even 2-5-8

[formal quiver]

this doesnt really make any sense. it doesnt do the math like you think it does. thats just the framework of how you chose to understand it

[swift mango]

How do you explain my 6% CS in Blabla being basically 10% in Blabla of other people because of rounding

Rounding exist no matter how you slide it. You could see it with your eyes.

[formal quiver]

everything is calculated at infinite frames. and then when u need to actuall make things display and happen at 30 fps things get rounded. the end result is what you think is t his system of rounding

so when vesti has a 2s charge time and is being affected by charge speed lines its not happening as being rounded then doing whatever you think it does

it does the cs lines and then rounds to 30 fps

[umbral crown]

[formal quiver]

may be a bit of a simplification but the rounding is not donw first

[swift mango]

I mean how do you explain 2.54+2.54+2.54 being the equal to 3.45+3.45+3.45.

If rounding doesn't exist

[formal quiver]

6 cs isnt the same tier as 11 no matter what unit youre using

[swift mango]

My bad but I mean tier 8%

[formal quiver]

8 and 11 still arent the same frame

[swift mango]

Nvm still wrong math

[swift mango]

Let's do it again.

5.21+5.21+4.98

Being the same as

4.56+4.98+4.98

Being 15% if rounding doesn't exist?

And 5.8+5.8+5.8

Being less than

5.51+5.8+5.8

If rounding doesn't exist.

These to be observe with your eyes.

[formal quiver]

im saying rounding does exist. the behavior is exactly what you know as happening with 1second charge time units. it doesnt happen the way that you think it does and doesnt apply to vesti

by saying the game is doing different math for vesti is a false

im going to bed. go frame count if you want to talk about observing with eyes

[swift mango]

Like I said, if rounding is different for Vesti alone the game need to redo the math altogether.

From 5.51+5.8+5.8> 5.8+5.8+5.8 to less.
(5.51+11.6=6+12>17.4=17)
(5.51+11.6=5.5+11.5=17<17.5=17.4)

And threshold need to be remake too

It's definitely not each 0.5 then

It's crazy but yeah I guess it could work.

[swift mango]

I mean I doubt the rounding math at first but it has proven true to me after I watch on slomo many times. It's weird but it works.

Maybe the game could do the same rounding math with Vesti then add a x2 or ÷2 somewhere. Without changing the math.

[charred wedge]

Having trouble with this person. how can i break this team apart? @stuck pike

[tropic summit]

noise noah vestiTU helmT biscuit

you need a noah biscuit archetype but instead of nuke a DPS B3 and you will win the trade

[charred wedge]

Haven't build noise. shes almost there but ty will try to force her in

[tropic summit]

no need just change strategy

knowing your box would help make a different approach

[swift mango]

Same team but siren p1 instead. and Jackal instead of Helm

[tropic summit]

assuming opponent doesn't burst in time for noah to B2 in time?

[swift mango]

That team is 3rl

[tropic summit]

oh ye it's slow af