pvp-arena

[onyx scaffold]

so still 2.5RL

[lusty gull]

2.5 is not a bad thing

rapunzel is important with this team

[worthy knoll]

24% or was it 25% CS Lib, is 28% gen at 5 SG time

[onyx scaffold]

why tho. against shotgun? im not sure about true dmg vesti cuz noise might survive or both noise and rapunzel might get killed

my 2.5rl noah got killed by vesti ada jackal team

[lusty gull]

mostly to counter soda, siren and also better against some stall team

[spiral onyx]

Is the Nikke.top maintainer in this Discord by chance? They still haven't added XSoline or Label 🙁

[onyx scaffold]

no

deen33 handles the site iirc

it is his bilibili not sure his discord tag

[hollow lagoon]

Soline is there not sure label

[worthy knoll]

Another solution is, as long I B1, my Nayuta can finish them off. Can either use Biscuit like in this vid, or just ensure you are quick enough to B1 before enemy B3s (2.5 RL time in deck). And ensure Nayuta is not the top 2 highest attack to not be targeted by Rosanna dispel

[scarlet adder]

holy shit you have many counters for scar 😮

[hollow lagoon]

@spiral onyx nvm I’m delusional xsoline ain’t there

[worthy knoll]

Scar def stocks was already dropping since Mihara release, then Nayuta.. then now its all time low coz of Label

[onyx scaffold]

i dont have resources to invest in emma eunhwa

[unique wagon]

Hey boys.

Retro made a sheet (PvP tier list) suggestion. I think it looks pretty interesting so...

[umbral crown]

For soline i use mary instead but would be nice

[eager mountain]

he did it, scar emi dumped

[unique wagon]

Ada Maiden was in A tier... I asked to make them S. Idk maybe A better but there.

[eager mountain]

got a link?

[unique wagon]

Why

There is nothing else there

[eager mountain]

saving the link cuz curious of future listings

[unique wagon]

Honestly this isnt so bad but Im not sure about Moran and Rosa beingup there

Pretty harsh tiering tbh but not wrong

It looks more... correct

[eager mountain]

if sacr emi got dumped then rosa doesnt seem to be there

tho rosa poor wr in ca has to do with sg team itself

[unique wagon]

Retro said he made public copy
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nnqHiLisC2bn2RvuZ5Ut1atfD8QNcEhbpjvrykLincc/edit?usp=drivesdk

[fathom rock]

I'm fine with ros ss, moran stays tho

[unique wagon]

His looks better than what I came up with anw

[fathom rock]

I'll work on the B tier b2 conundrum sometime tonight

[unique wagon]

I will visualize his TL hmm let me try

nah annoying

[worthy knoll]

Label A.. I think she should be at least S.. if not leave her A drop down the others 🤔

[fathom rock]

S just for countering scarlet and nothing else?

[eager mountain]

b1 still does some atk buff if shes bursting

[fathom rock]

Or as b1 buffer

[worthy knoll]

Scarlet and Cindy.. and as highest attack bait.. Manipulating Rosa dispel and B1 buffer for Nayuta

I'm fine with A but I don't think she should be grouped with those others at least

[fathom rock]

I see

[eager mountain]

id wait to see more ca cook results but she seems to around rh tier

[worthy knoll]

I mean Siren is like.. just a B1 stunner.. aside from that.. like her burst sucks.. while Label can do HelmT bait, is a defender can be Biscuit S2ed.. has a permanent shield that allows her to stall if no hard hitting RLs once she bursted, can buff too, and no need to worry against Scar S2 compared to the likes of Liter and XMica

[unique wagon]

I think Zwei needs to be nerfed other than that this what it looks like

[worthy knoll]

tho I'd say drop RH to A too if Label remains as A.. what does RH do nowadays aside from buffing

[unique wagon]

Winning under deficit.

[fathom rock]

I'll raise her before b2 stuff I'll also down Rosa lol
Label can help deficit warfare too tho

[unique wagon]

Backup B1. Doesn't suck on Defense as much as Label.

Also Backup B3.

[unique wagon]

Her most popular team is, you guessed it, Nayuta Label.

[fathom rock]

At this point just rank rh as 1 unit and make an omni tag

[unique wagon]

Of course its Nayuta indom with atk buff I mean who else

[worthy knoll]

Wdym? RH B3 is worthless now though, the moment you B3 with RH as safeguard is already a losing match

[unique wagon]

Not on some matchups

[worthy knoll]

low lvl matchups?

[fathom rock]

Some matchups give me og soline winning vibes

[eager mountain]

the emi scar dump result in s tier b3 being tied with... freaking anis is still something

[unique wagon]

But I dont like seeing Cindy in S

the problem with this TL is like if people dont see the tier list, they assume S is shit

[worthy knoll]

Convince me what match up RH wins?

[unique wagon]

Will have to check

[fathom rock]

If trina is getting ss that means people won't acknowledge centi if this is true

[unique wagon]

It is true

Also Noise > Rosa anw

[worthy knoll]

Sure, tell against a team later where it reeks I should RH this instead of a different B3

[fathom rock]

Squeezing everyone in first 2 tiers isn't the most accurate thing

[unique wagon]

I said backup B3

[worthy knoll]

And again the noment you want a Backup is already losing

[unique wagon]

Tell that to high winrate CA comps

[worthy knoll]

I meant RH as backup

And is that pvp tier list or CA tier list

[unique wagon]

Moran Noah HelmTr RH Emi still have 60%+ win rate according to this data

[worthy knoll]

If were talking pvp in just SP and Rookie, I I would never use RH as B3 just attacking wise

[unique wagon]

and there is Moran Lib Noah Helm RH variant

[worthy knoll]

Not even as backup

[unique wagon]

This is CA. RH is used as backup B1 most likely but she works

[worthy knoll]

Then say its CA tier list then

[unique wagon]

Its hard to judge the usefulness of Label in CA in the same patch as her release

Her winrate at top 16 rn is 43%

[worthy knoll]

Pvp is not just on CA.. the real currency is at SP

When will we be out of Beta?

[unique wagon]

Its not only about accuracy

its about whether its relatable

TL that is purely objective may be accurate but you know what happens

[hollow lagoon]

Rh kinda cope ish now days

[unique wagon]

This looks right... from A and below

[unique wagon]

it still doesnt look right above S

Hear me out

@fathom rock

Now this looks right

[cedar sorrel]

Is nayuta really only S?

[quick lake]

My Blanc and Bay agenda posting worked!

Even xsoline

TL looks great

[onyx scaffold]

sugar?

flora mast pascal sugar can go up 1 tier
bunny ade grave tove down 1 tier

[tulip quest]

9/10 for me

[shell hazel]

there is a certain point where it's essentially unusable pvp units so being C D E tier no real distinction

may as well throw everyone like that into the same tier and call it a day

[hollow lagoon]

Imagine a 2 tier gap between biscuit and Ada

[tulip quest]

Aiyoooo

[hollow lagoon]

Delta ninja flora and mast are def on Bade tier

[fathom rock]

My ears are fully listening and my eyes are steadily looking

B2s still need fix

[onyx scaffold]

Sure but I have seen tryhard pvp ppl with full units still decide to use them.
So either like u say, merge the tier and call it a day. Or make it properly

[fathom rock]

B2s will be fixed

[hollow lagoon]

I still think the sss ss s is derp

Should go meta pick/comp enablers/useful pick/niche pick/copium

[tulip quest]

Again Charge damage Shift up likes this Roll on Vesti or I dunno asdasdasd

[quick lake]

Why would u lock line 1

[tulip quest]

No plan to use More rocks on Vesti

[quick lake]

but but… still

[hollow lagoon]

I lock line 1

[tulip quest]

Be a man and Gamble

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gambling-gambler-gif-572068894331490223

[hollow lagoon]

Like that time I only had 6 rocks and get my 4th cs on helm on line 3

[tidal lichen]

i think emma should be a tier below eunhwa

[onyx scaffold]

me too

[hollow lagoon]

The other way around

[quick lake]

3rd line gamblers smh

[tidal lichen]

why

[hollow lagoon]

U never used force taunt Emma sac to rosana before? How misguided you must be

[onyx scaffold]

Sure but let be honest, u would rather use them together or none of them

[tulip quest]

Gotta gamble more

[quick lake]

[tulip quest]

[hollow lagoon]

[onyx scaffold]

what do u chase for? I can do math

[tulip quest]

Guys help me with this question Shud I keep Effect or Change Effect

[tulip quest]

Just normal third line

any

[hollow lagoon]

Keep so SU feels like it owns u something

[onyx scaffold]

If any, then 30% => averagely 9-12 rocks

[tulip quest]

tats the problem 1 rocks remain

how can I multiply more rocks HELP

[hollow lagoon]

Better luck tmr

[tulip quest]

yEA 9 Rocks Tommorow minimum amount be Dee Pink's math TRUST

[hollow lagoon]

Mean while I just want higher crit rate on my Cindy’s and it ain’t going higher

[onyx scaffold]

I have been getting 1+1 rock daily for the past 7 days

[tulip quest]

Story of my Kraken

RELEASE THE KRAKEN

[hollow lagoon]

Wow I just get da pity

[onyx scaffold]

I dont get 0+1 at least

[tulip quest]

https://tenor.com/view/fear-me-i-am-the-kraken-the-kraken-will-eat-you-be-careful-gif-16429975

I change effects gotta Move on with the lost rocks you know Gotta Give them respect their Deaths won't be in Vain

https://tenor.com/view/salute-gif-8977961

[onyx scaffold]

Do surface/outside content

[tulip quest]

Assuming it will even Return or maybe SHIFTED UP above schedule so delayed

Like C.A Forever Beta man

[onyx scaffold]

by outside content, i mean get a j*b

[tulip quest]

I tot surface content XD

[onyx scaffold]

but i dont want to say it directly cuz i also need to do outside content

[tidal lichen]

[swift mango]

Hit rate it is

you will get it in 20 rocks

[swift mango]

First kill all S-ss-sss tier. put everyone in E tier then start move them up.

Then you will have a list that doesn't need anything SSSS

100 gems

[brazen nova]

just build snow and maiden ice to usable, who i can replace with them?

[keen vapor]

I really wonder since when that Cindy team has been a good idea

Replace Anis with Snow and let's see what happens

[brazen nova]

i just copied the 4th guy and in 5th with that team 😔

but seem like always losing to lower bros

[keen vapor]

I still lost to a guy with that team thrice (lost to the other 2 teams he had)

[swift mango]

Worst initial roll ever... 10 rock in and not even CP improvement let alone AtK line.

[keen vapor]

Oh no

I tried rolling her, unsuccessfully

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-oh-no-anyway-gif-18887547

[swift mango]

she onk need atk

[umbral belfry]

@dense kindle it's been a honor

[keen vapor]

I meant pulling

[hollow lagoon]

Poor bastard Cindy burst couldn’t even take out Mihara

[swift mango]

I got 4 CS today in 10 rock. It only it was a RL.

[hollow lagoon]

Oh waif

It’s cuz label

[keen vapor]

Ofc???

[hollow lagoon]

Fast Cindy ded

[keen vapor]

little mermaid
Fast

Choose one

[hollow lagoon]

Not 4/5rl is still fast

[swift mango]

Whale bully normal atk a pleb to death

[keen vapor]

Why attack anyways

Blood, caster buffs won't use attack lines

If there's another reason, tell me

[swift mango]

So she steal rosa dispel

[brazen nova]

is this team better?
still clueless about who to put on scar trina team 😔

[keen vapor]

That's wrong as well

She targets attackers

Not highest attack

[swift mango]

She steal the dispel already now

[swift mango]

Rosa dispel highest ATK.

[keen vapor]

Have Biscuit?

[swift mango]

Petition to demote Chime

[brazen nova]

ah yeah i have biscuit

[dense kindle]

Radeki

[tulip quest]

Label

[keen vapor]

Ah, a skill/burst difference...

[swift mango]

[keen vapor]

I don't think I want to invest Rosanna with Label released

[swift mango]

rosa kinda counter label though

I guess Label with 1 ATK line is enough to get over SW. So maybe 2-3 ATK line and I won't need to remove ATK from Emi.

[keen vapor]

Put jackal on Scarlet team, replace maiden with Siren and let her on position 2

Blanc first, vesti second
Add biscuit, add Maiden and replace Anchor with another fast unit

Actually, you shouldn't need Helm and Snow on the same team ....

[hollow eagle]

there's no way

[keen vapor]

No B2 flex

[swift mango]

Label should partially block 2.5rl Cindy as well.

[hollow eagle]

I should not be here bro, first time winning this far and im alr trolling so hard

😭

[swift mango]

It's because there actually is 2.5rl cindy in your bracket.

Good to know though

label also block 2.5rl

[glad meteor]

Is that assuming sw doesn’t have atk ols

[swift mango]

my SW has 20%

And MLB

[hollow eagle]

even though I didnt even burst?

[glad meteor]

No 4 atk. Brick

Good for pvp though

But using label and sw in same team is interesting

[keen vapor]

You didn't burst Moran?

[swift mango]

Moran burst at least, their Cindy normal attack not enough to kill Moran

[hollow lagoon]

Bro is crazier than me with the team building

[hollow eagle]

it's just a one time mistake

[hollow lagoon]

What ever get u w

Also I think I’m dead for my next one

Traaaaaagixc

Unless group 7 don’t fight group 8

[swift mango]

now be a legend and get champ without b2

[hollow eagle]

[keen vapor]

The way of PVP can be rather mysterious

[swift mango]

She even steal link from 26% AtK Emi now. Guess I won't need more ATK line on her... That means 8 rocks were wasted.

[glad meteor]

Rocks

[swift mango]

My bracket today is funny. All the old names that often high ranking got killed early so top 8 all new blood.

[torn obsidian]

@raven plover

[raven plover]

final gonna be you vs the guy next to me I think I forgor the name

I think you can win this

[torn obsidian]

let's see, i think tomorrow's match gonna be a hard 2-3 / 3-2

i have liberalio p3 into a vesti

[raven plover]

nah its fine

[oak hatch]

@gaunt pulsar it was pretty close tho I didn’t really expected to win, seems like mihara sold the first matchup or something

[swift mango]

Deficit win.

[gaunt pulsar]

it was so close yea first one just robbing you away

[umbral belfry]

I died with honor, I have no regrets

@wild hemlock I lost now that means you instantly lose too

[swift mango]

But you can't.

[tulip quest]

Naht trolling but Rather Flexing

https://tenor.com/view/mias-omias-nolimitmias-nolimitjay-tiktok-gif-16222143090616452612

[covert lintel]

Finally you beat him

[unique wagon]

What does Label do exactly there

[tropic summit]

probably won't play it, got no time for another genshin pseudo clone, although lemme know if it feels different and is actually fun

[unique wagon]

Its way different from Genshin lol

[glad meteor]

I see your name. I’ll join too

[flat fern]

I finally get to invest in lova stocks (again)

[unique wagon]

Who

[flat fern]

a name I see get mentioned from times to times here when I lurk during the CA season lol

[coarse lake]

Considering Cindy snapshot, it's probably full block

As long as label team has it when Cindy casted

[shell hazel]

will do

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/shouko-makinohara-1

[shell hazel]

[coarse lake]

@swift mango blanc lib vs bay bisc if you're curious

honestly did more than I was expecting

did like 60% of their hp past noise burst, might have done a lot less if they had 1 or 2 already invulned I think

[wild hemlock]

[tropic summit]

interesting... and it was a blanc buffed lib nuke

[glad meteor]

Bay already lost her cover before lib aoe’d

[tropic summit]

ye it's biscuit denying overflow being mvp here

noise alone would've probably still got lethal'ed

[glad meteor]

Noise op

[noble python]

Alright time to climb back up zzzz…

[wild hemlock]

Wait what. I had my bay/noise vs nana lib before with no buffer and I got 1 tapped even after I full bursted

[glad meteor]

Bay Bisc Noise is tankier because of dmg distribution

[wild hemlock]

Oh lib team still won, but still interesting so far I've never seen lib not 1 tab there

[wild hemlock]

It's the biscuit saving the entire team somehow like rail said now looking at my video

[tropic summit]

you already beaten these b4

[umbral crown]

@tropic summit did i beat the privaty boi?

[tropic summit]

i don't see you, which means it's a bad sign

[umbral crown]

[wild hemlock]

Noise/Bay for sure still dies

[glad meteor]

Rosy has new name

Maybe thats why

[wild hemlock]

Non buffed Lib and I have noise/Bay maxed here

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

team order diffed?

[umbral crown]

Kinda

Time to recook again

[glad meteor]

Dmg dist when bay is up is
40 to bay
15 to everyone else

Bay gets invul from biscuit and team can tank better for a while.

[umbral crown]

Everything was going fine

[tropic summit]

wew invest diffed here

[glad meteor]

Blanc vs nayuta diff

[tropic summit]

oh ye there's a blanc

[umbral crown]

[glad meteor]

Blanc is nayuta worst nightmare

[tropic summit]

the other was a vestiTU into slow cindy with nayuta and scarlet into noah

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

3 out of 5 already team order diffed

[glad meteor]

Bro switched nayuta and blanc

[tropic summit]

and uh misindom here?

[glad meteor]

🤓 thats why we bring rapu cope

[noble python]

Ye

[tropic summit]

one of the reasons i don't like indom via biscuit

[glad meteor]

If my scar was strong. Maybe I could’ve killed lib with noise buff

[noble python]

Next

[tropic summit]

well he'll get em next time

[tropic summit]

what's enemy T2

[glad meteor]

Rosy avenged us at least

[glad meteor]

Nayuta plus wotever

[noble python]

Too high deficit

[tropic summit]

show it anyway

[glad meteor]

Oh. Wrong person

[tropic summit]

not very abusable, nvm

[umbral crown]

Yeah, biscuit p3 madd me lose many matches

[glad meteor]

You running absolute again next season?

[umbral crown]

But that noah was 2.5 and scar was 2

[noble python]

Ye

[umbral crown]

Yeah

[tropic summit]

show CP don't run

[glad meteor]

[umbral crown]

Need to tune it more this weekend

[glad meteor]

But treasure

we not coping?

[umbral crown]

Maybe if i have the unit sr15 already

[glad meteor]

MA. Give us deets

[umbral crown]

Absolute treasure, trust

[wild hemlock]

Scarlet/Jackal/Soda deniers in shambles

[tropic summit]

post your box

need to pad

going on guessing, i think this should fix T1 and keep T3 below 20% deficit

[glad meteor]

Rh trigger prob

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

rapunzel and noise higher CP than liter?

[noble python]

I never got to finish Grandma’s gear bc she got replaced lmao

[tropic summit]

reasonable, see if you sub liter for siren how's the CP affected, if it kicks you away from deficit run siren, else keep liter that she helps lib

[coarse lake]

well you prob make it to finals then

you beat nisaya, haven't checked the guy facing me (who prob beats me), even if I win, you beat me

good odds it's you vs nana in finals

[tropic summit]

oke run them

[strange linden]

https://medal.tv/fr/games/goddess-of-victory-nikke/clips/lWY4s3RuGKwndg2EL?invite=cr-MSxKR0UsNDk4NjUwMzE0&v=30

Damn, I was certain I'd lose there

[noble python]

Ez wins hehe

[strange linden]

but yeah, do I need blanc with SWHA to resist SAnis? Not even Moran saved her

[noble python]

Now to take back my Challenger 3

[tropic summit]

you gemming?

[noble python]

I gemmed in the past I had it saved for a moment like this

[tropic summit]

check CP and check links in T2, need rosanna linked

for vesti gonna turn it into noah biscuit forgot to edit

[tropic summit]

hmm CP is in range... not convinced on T1 by not being able to give vesti at least 1 buffer tho... what if you turn it into

noah biscuit vestiTU rumani ada, how's CP?

[noble python]

Yeah no doesn’t work

[tropic summit]

oh can also
noah biscuit vestiTU drakeT rumani

[tropic summit]

in range

your vesti is gonna need to hit hard in T1

[noble python]

Yeah

[tropic summit]

T2 should be relatively safe, you've a lot of water code dmg on link and on whole team, ada will get 2 snipers shooting her

[shell hazel]

would sw swap with vesti be better?

[tropic summit]

record and give it a shot

[shell hazel]

or is cp too harsh?

[tropic summit]

what's the reasoning with moving swha instead of vesti?

[shell hazel]

her burst potential is higher

[tropic summit]

against moran bay?

[shell hazel]

harder for moran to live through it

[tropic summit]

marin's swha is less invested than vestitu tho

[shell hazel]

I've not ran SW into bay

yeah true :9

full send it marin

record

[tropic summit]

water code would still hit for ele weak on bay though

so assuming swha isn't too far behind in invest than vestiTU, i could see that advantage

i would like to fit a RH in there but he lacks burst gen... would need an emilia or lappy in T2 but marin doesn't have those

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

i wonder marin checked links tho in T2

if rosanna no linkeroni it's gonna be pasta

[noble python]

I did

[tropic summit]

eagerly waiting for the vid 🍿

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

fake 2.5RL

[umbral crown]

Indeed

[tropic summit]

like how is this 2RL

i smell funny spaghetti code RH hitting pierce on cover

[noble python]

It says 3RL

[umbral crown]

Even if full cs and quatum

[tropic summit]

we need someone smart to explain this

[noble python]

Nice video finally sent XDX

[umbral belfry]

you went on without me! (good job)

[tropic summit]

jesus christ the nayuta clutch

had a heartattack when vestiTU was still alive

[formal quiver]

redhood gets extra gen while piercing

[tropic summit]

and glad we gave vestiTU a passive atk% buff, ensured moran didn't try comeback solo

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/perfection-michael-fassbender-1

[noble python]

Yeah

[hybrid fox]

Can I use Rosanna to defeat their team 3? Is it a stretch

I know I win team 2 but idk how to deal with blanc Besti team1

[noble python]

I only don’t have Emilia bc I wasn’t around for her banner as for Lappy you told me I can wait on her

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel @umbral crown @noble python

[wild hemlock]

Nana has a better record vs me than she does vs cn players I fear

[tropic summit]

ye she can wait, just useful in this context to move SWHA around, but you made it

[noble python]

Ye

[tropic summit]

team 1 is actually fairly easy, you can assume worst case scenario where they've heavy CS% and manage to kick into 2.5RL, that's still p1 blanc siren weak

all you need is a team that can indom and stun, you'll win the trade

or also a noah biscuit archetype that slots siren

i'll give you 2 examples

[hybrid fox]

'its easy'
well I am stupid

can I not use noah, I can slot in siren fr
I wanna keep team 2 which is sure win

[hybrid fox]

will siren + blanc be too slow? they are both slow gen type

[wild hemlock]

It's RH pierce. If you put that setup into nikketop every RH pierce makes you burst even faster

[tropic summit]

here you go, pick w/e approach you prefer

T1 condition: swha and laplaceT (flex) linked
T2 condition: none, vestiTU assumed 4%CS and invested

[tropic summit]

isn't the pierce RNG based tho?

[hybrid fox]

swha and lawing is very interesting
besti CS is ok I think

[wild hemlock]

I think so idk what the % chance is though

[tropic summit]

[hybrid fox]

2.5 RL blanc + stun + burst kill

that's a team I should record?

[umbral belfry]

nana is a g o o nette like me?

[tropic summit]

no it should be safe unless you're in deficit, doublecheck before you run
check links obviously

[umbral belfry]

sasuga, @valid inlet

[wild hemlock]

By taking out the CN overlord I've only made Nana more powerful

[hybrid fox]

overlord hehe that's a surprising name among nikke

[hybrid fox]

check link via. guild thingy or just check attack kek

[umbral belfry]

I wish I could join your bracket but I played nikke too late

so I'll never see you and nana

[tropic summit]

with check link i mean ensure vestiTU and laplaceT are jackal linked, you can run that team in shooting range and check buffs upon entering

you'll want laplaceT and vestiTU with jumping jackal buff

[wild hemlock]

Smh these guys all voted against me despite me winning the exact mirror last match

I know who you all are

[umbral belfry]

[hybrid fox]

SWole

[tropic summit]

oh ye swha

[hybrid fox]

yeah I mean better not be lazy for this and open up shooting range

[tropic summit]

the amount of copy pasta teams in here

[hybrid fox]

u got me

uh oh

laplace doesnt get the jackal
its siren who get the buff

[wild hemlock]

The CN winner from last season didn't change or move his teams. The guy I vsed before him copy pasted it

[hybrid fox]

oh right my siren is PvE ultra invested and laplace is not

[tropic summit]

hmmm i guess you could put blanc in p3 if you've her on SR15 with tempering, do you?

SR5 may live too

[hybrid fox]

let me check

SR 5 only

[tropic summit]

wanna kick her into SR15 for extra safety but up to you

[hybrid fox]

about time

[tropic summit]

tempering on blanc and swha, jackal and lappy quantum, siren any

[hybrid fox]

jk high chance I cannot get her SR15 even if I want

its RNG bro

[tropic summit]

bit risky but probably safer than getting siren to give you ele weakness damage on link

[hybrid fox]

SR10 rn

[tropic summit]

oke, tempering on her then give it a shot

check CP if you didn't already ofc

you need 1986k

[hybrid fox]

oh SR15

[tropic summit]

MLB SR15 on tempering, should live to 2RL

[hybrid fox]

going in

it crashed so I dunno

[tropic summit]

check results, should probably still went in

[hybrid fox]

correct

win but idk how

[tropic summit]

well it worked as intended then

0RL-2RL you take p1 p2 p3 dmg
2RL B2 you indom, enemy blanc is stunned
3RL-5RL your SWHA wipes

[wild hemlock]

It's funny cause I was going to bed and I had an epiphany that what if CN guy doesn't move his teams so I moved my scar/soda to p1 instead of p3 and I was right. Granted I guess I would have won either way since my SG team won as well

Paved the way for Nana's victory

[spiral onyx]

https://youtu.be/2QH75_weBzQ?si=u3iio4gnSfLnwN_u

[swift mango]

Voting the underdog.

[swift mango]

Well, Libby is just that strong.

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit hey,so im currently building rosanna but since i had one free try i used on these teams,t1 won. On t2 my vestitu died while almost gonna cast her burst,couldve won but enemy and me had same ammo on vesti so i wasnt sure if i couldve won. Just wanted to share

[swift mango]

Your game setting doesn't show enough numbers. Can't even check if the hits crited.

[tropic summit]

could try to focus on T1 and T3 then

even half-4ssed rosanna will suffice for T3

[warm monolith]

4ssed? As of skills or ols

Oh i get it nvm

[tropic summit]

as long as she's 7/10/10 even without much atk% we can probably lethal swha in p2

[warm monolith]

Also kinda funny story,another guy runs a similar team as enemy t2 and ive been winning against it purely because his vestu runs out of ammo and while she recharges mine kills his.

[warm monolith]

Sadly currently 7/7/7, i need to look at the resources she lacks asap

[swift mango]

Bay virtually doesn't give any protection now.

[warm monolith]

And 19.94% atk

[coarse lake]

wdym

[tropic summit]

check CP

[coarse lake]

1495026 crit, 1024888 non-crit I think

[swift mango]

No number on Biscuit and Noise.

[coarse lake]

a few numbers hidden, but around there

I'm on max settings

wdym

I see them

[warm monolith]

Anti Bay propaganda

[coarse lake]

you're just blind

[tropic summit]

@swift mango time to wear glasses

https://klipy.com/gifs/laugh-anime-9

[swift mango]

You mean the dmg that did on Opponent team appeared on your team?

[coarse lake]

yes, bc ca map likes to flip

[tropic summit]

gotta have those fancy camera angles nobody gives a f*k

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit i'mma die next one

[swift mango]

Bay doesn't do anything.

[tropic summit]

believe in the me that belives in you

[warm monolith]

T1 858k at least needed 885k to be not on deficit.
T3 871k not on deficit

[hollow lagoon]

the one time i won was the time i didnt believe in you

[warm monolith]

Anti Bay propaganda, i dont hear you,no

[tropic summit]

throw in laplaceT instead of centi

[coarse lake]

too many non-single nuke dps, and even single nuke dps that semi bypass bay

bay more irrelevant every patch

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/sealyx-makeine-4

[warm monolith]

Ye safe

But no more attempts,should i gem it?

[tropic summit]

record that and yolo

T1 is gonna be sudoku cindy with extra copium super ultra

[warm monolith]

Should i gem it?

[tropic summit]

no

i've 0 confidence in T1

[hollow lagoon]

my union's discord

[warm monolith]

r/nikkeoutpost has Bay profile too, idk why

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-grab-sazanka

[warm monolith]

[hollow lagoon]

rapi head bay body kekek|?

[warm monolith]

Im on every gacha discord server i play lol

[hollow lagoon]

head position is better

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

gem it until u beat it. duwit the whale way

[warm monolith]

btW we exist

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit he telling the truth?

[tropic summit]

not worth it

don't trust blood, he's chaotic evil

and he's broke

never trust someone who MLB label

[coarse lake]

wot

[hollow lagoon]

my label core 1

[coarse lake]

he mlbed label while having to skip key units last year already?

[warm monolith]

This is more convincing to me

[tropic summit]

what ISN'T core 1 in your lineup

[coarse lake]

that's ballsy

[tropic summit]

aye, total mad lad

[swift mango]

then I can be trusted because only lb2

[hollow lagoon]

crow aint even mlb

[tropic summit]

YOU WENT LB2

[coarse lake]

how many pulls did you do

[warm monolith]

Ill try to get her with 20 pulls today,wish me luck

[swift mango]

cheap, only 90

[hollow lagoon]

[coarse lake]

ok that ain't that bad

[warm monolith]

Weird way of saying good luck but thanks

[coarse lake]

can't wait for you to skip maids again in a few months tho

[hollow lagoon]

one degen to attaract another

[tropic summit]

@swift mango roll more maybe you find rapunzel too

[swift mango]

I have all maid wdym

[tropic summit]

inb4 emilia will rerun before you get rapunzel

[warm monolith]

New treasures when?

[hollow lagoon]

mmm i saw some drew a noise in bay bunny suit

[warm monolith]

Send it.

[coarse lake]

you can't say that and not share

[tropic summit]

sauce?

https://klipy.com/gifs/osaco-1

[placid bloom]

[warm monolith]

Dang i thought Bay on noise outfit:(

[tropic summit]

@hollow lagoon a job well done, good sir

[warm monolith]

Thanks tho

[swift mango]

I need to save some gem to gem claim.

[hollow lagoon]

wouldent want ngv yeet me into oblivion

[coarse lake]

those 50+ ish pulls worth of gems you used past 1 copy of label could have helped

[warm monolith]

@hollow lagoon thanks for sharing the 512th photo of my Bay collection

[coarse lake]

don't worry I doubt they check this channel

[shell hazel]

chaos rules here

[hollow lagoon]

they did last time and warned my filthy degen ass

[coarse lake]

[swift mango]

we could @ them

[warm monolith]

Also theres a app called enikk that has fan art collection of every nikke in the game if anybody wants to find fan arts of some units they can check there and download it

[tropic summit]

last time we took a chance, this happened

then again there's also this:

be smart

[coarse lake]

well... then it's considered spicy

[swift mango]

New Makima rerun first

[coarse lake]

seems about right

cindy should be snapshotting the dr

so even if part of it is after dr expires, main hits should still be affected

[swift mango]

3RL Cindy with Noah and No biscuit already lose to slow Cindy though.

So doesn't change much.

In this case

[hollow lagoon]

change is freeing the blanc

tho this version does lose to vesti a lot more

[swift mango]

I mean any slow Cindy can win it. You don't even need Blanc or Label.

[hollow lagoon]

[swift mango]

You only need Cindy+Biscuit and 2 defender

And low enough gen

[glacial haven]

@tropic summit Even worst run, but still a win

[coarse lake]

jesus that's close

[glacial haven]

Thanks to Label's skill...

Now, a new headache appears...

[valid inlet]

Maybe 3 years later after a lot ppl retire

[valid inlet]

Eon and I found that the cn guy has a track record of running the comps unchanged if he won champion previous season

[valid inlet]

Actually I have better chance against him this season as well, if meeting you it will be decided by the SG mirror RNG again I guess

[silk iris]

need help idk if the cp gap might be too high

[glacial haven]

It's good.

Cp gap as it is.

[umbral belfry]

wait for meee

[silk iris]

the teams are okay? comp wise

[wild hemlock]

I hope not cause you won last time

[glacial haven]

Change litter

She wont help your comp there

[silk iris]

i have this team now would this work

[wild hemlock]

I can understand running the same team but not moving anything is crazy work

[gentle merlin]

I think im stuck permenantly now 🥹

[glacial haven]

Made it worst

[silk iris]

oh damn

[glacial haven]

Try to outburst is team

[silk iris]

so go back to the last team and change liter for who?

[glacial haven]

Another battery

SW maybe?

[shell hazel]

Diagnosis: credit card issue

[glacial haven]

Try to reach 2RL

[silk iris]

should i send u my box? my sw isnt as strong i feel

[silk iris]

#pvp-arena message

[glacial haven]

Dont need too much on her. Since wyou gonna use her as a burst gen.. and some missiles

[silk iris]

the regular sw or ha?

[shell hazel]

take a guess 😄

[silk iris]

HA?

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/de-nada-bingo-guiño-gif-7208449200817841090

[gritty ridge]

Hippo run old snow

[shell hazel]

the snow white team

[silk iris]

this the cp gap now

[shell hazel]

it's meta

[gritty ridge]

Hippo run this

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/no-u-reverse-gif-22928333

[gritty ridge]

Nuh uh, youre stronger than me

[shell hazel]

what am I going to run this against?

[glacial haven]

13% defict. You're in.

[silk iris]

hell yeah thanks! i won

[gentle merlin]

could I ask for 2 strongest attack team I can have atm ? 😂 gonna try to OL them all

[shell hazel]

build jackal and noah as swiss army knife uses for pvp teams

build nayuta and snow white new one for pve + pvp dual usage

vesti TU is great in pvp and good in hard mode deficit as well

crown seems somewhat far down your power list for how good she is too - give her some build if you missed stuff on her

[gritty ridge]

Ca

[shell hazel]

as does Rapi

finish HelmT treasure as well

[glacial haven]

Maybe minimum investment on Centi, Rumani, Blanc, Trina, Rapunzel. Just enough to make them PvP worthy and open your array of comps.

[shell hazel]

I'd build pve first and foremost

pushing campaign is better than pushing pvp

[glacial haven]

Agreed.

[shell hazel]

dual purpose stuff like snow white and nayuta wins for that reason

but rapi is way too low for how good she is

🐐 unit

[glacial haven]

Maid Mast and Anchor is a good choice too.

Specially later on Elysion tower, where they are a must.

[shell hazel]

mast > anchor

[gritty ridge]

Maids are also peak on black snake

[glacial haven]

@shell hazel Sorry to ping you like this, but, may you help with my teams? I dont know where to tackle the opponent's team, and I'm really needing some advice and new perspective.

[shell hazel]

in what sense?

[glacial haven]

On my team building.

[shell hazel]

like crafted teams with specific opponents or what?

[glacial haven]

This is what I'm going against with.

T1, I somewhat got something in mind. But T2 and T3, I don't know where to go.

[shell hazel]

scar is easy to counter esp if you have label built

generally you'll pick the 2 weakest looking teams to attck

[marble saddle]

@tropic summit

[shell hazel]

for anti-cindy t2 you'd want a noah or similar, or a label at least

t3 might be weak to helmT snipe if it's not fast enough

what do you have in mind to run against t1?

[marble saddle]

@tropic summit its not 100% success since it depends on his scar dying

[glacial haven]

Before Label, i countered with Noah-Rapunzel-SBS- Centi-Rumani

[shell hazel]

if your bay is OK it's a cheaper option than noah for that team

if your label is OK I imagine you can yolo that a bit, I didn't actually build my label yet so no idea how well she works

[glacial haven]

Well... I could send a replay with my label running against a Scarlet comp.

Yes, i got Tbay and Label invested.

[shell hazel]

then you can bay the scar

mainly need an attacker to bait the ros nuke

then you can noah t2

[glacial haven]

I even though using Rosana on T2, but Soda stun is bugging me out

And Sniping TVesti on T3, is out of question. Cause Label.

[shell hazel]

can try this for t1

this for t3

[glacial haven]

The replays with Label.

[shell hazel]

quantum on bay or xmaiden should be fine

[glacial haven]

They're the same team, but soda stuns goes differently. So I believe is worthy a look.

[shell hazel]

t2 is more annoying because of soda who will get taunted by noah etc

[glacial haven]

My Moran's somewhat basic. OL gear, doll R 0 and 4/4/4. I honestly dont know if she is going be sufficient and tank my CP.

Surprise. Cp wise on T1 is alright.

[glacial haven]

Trina and SW already has quantum. Does Maiden needs too?

Maybe this for T2?

Trying to get the burst chain going no matter what.

Well, Let me attack before resets the attempts.

HOLY.....

[craggy pier]

Any thoughts on this sp trio?

To defeat them)***

[glacial haven]

@shell hazel Think about a lucky run. (T2). Your's teams ran flawlessly.

[versed mesa]

My main rival got tired of swapping C4 and C1 with me and he did something he has not done even once before, hit the C2 heavy gemmer This means I am still in C1, but about to get bombarded when that guy logs in, because I don't think he has beaten my rival even once so will just skip revenge .

Why does the last season before shuffle have to be so dramatic

[warm monolith]

Missilis day but no label again

Also @tropic summit both teams lost but sadly i cant share the footage atm

[wind kelp]

got to those x01 x21 x41 synchro jamps, 42k extra cp is yummy, even if just goes from 1.05 to 1.1 mil :p (or rather; those 5% jamps in cp)

Especially as tomorrow is doomsday again, best of luck to all shuffled and shuffled in'ees.

[tropic summit]

did you watch them at least?

T1 how low was moran HP
other team, how low was SWHA HP

[tropic summit]

is T2 2.5RL?

[craggy pier]

Hey i used the teams you gave me last time but with jackal/snowwhite/blanc/nayuta/centi
T2 noah/ bisquit/vesti/helm/rumani
and won against 2 and 3, thank you gor the reply

[tropic summit]

not only dependant on scar dying, it's dependant on enemy scar s2 procc rate
might want to try a rosanna approach afterall, even if on small deficit

[craggy pier]

Yep all my teams are 2RL

[tropic summit]

ok looks like a good setup then

[craggy pier]

I may be wrong but if nayuta is linked to jackal, do they all become indom?

[tropic summit]

you mean the team above? no jackal is linked with ros and any of the other 2 water code dependaning on their atk%

you can only link with the 2 highest atk% in the team

[craggy pier]

Oh that was opponents i can grqb my teams quick

[tropic summit]

ah ok so it wasn't your teams but teams you need to defeat

[craggy pier]

Yes sir !

[warm monolith]

Ye,moran hp recovered near end but before that she was bit lower than half.
But i dont remember t3 sadly:(

Sorry man

[strange linden]

I'm so worried about the next shuffle, if I'm against people with all meta units I don't think I can even stay at top 10

[tropic summit]

you're on the left, T1 is throwaway so don't worry if you lack the units
T2 and T3 i assume you probably have the units

cubes

vestiTU tempering (is assumed 4CS% OL minimun)
blanc tempering
rh any
centi quantum
jackal quantum

noah any
biscuit any
cindy any
helmt any
rumani any

against T2 you need 816k CP
against T3 you need 751k CP

[tropic summit]

i see hippo cooked you a triple win later down

[versed mesa]

I'm going back to my roots. The displaced gemmer did indeed go for me directly and put me in 4th, so went for C3 instead. I'll try to hold him down to gain point lead that way.

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/do-your-best-anime

[craggy pier]

Thank you, im just grabbing my gear stats from shiftypad

[versed mesa]

Haven't yet pulled the trigger on the team you gave me, but saving it as my hopeful ace in the sleeve if needed

[tropic summit]

ye don't use that yet this season imo, the less you reveal the more it may last

[versed mesa]

Tbh if none of the other 3 in top 4 get shuffled out and I'm giving up I'm getting too much anxiety from getting so invested in it, over a measly 300 extra gems every 2 weeks

[tropic summit]

that's what most ppl conclusion becomes after a while

the effort needed to keep monitoring and min/maxing your timing on attacks is not worth the headache for those extra gems

also called common sense

[versed mesa]

I got too attached to the freebies since before the last shuffle, no one challenged me in C1 for 6 months.

[tropic summit]

assuming a bracket is made of all challengers that are near-same invest and have a bit of pvp knowledge, you could see one starting C1 and ending up C10 in minutes

that's because of how this game is attacker oriented designed, and it's gonna get worse the more broken units like helmtT, vestiTU and SWHA get released, as defense will always get easier while attack will get more tools to bypass them

it's the paradox this game pvp has been facing for a while

and until SU takes it in his hands to give more defense tools that can't be abused by offense

[versed mesa]

Yeah. I'm looking at this as my attempt at a last hurrah, then depending on how the shuffle goes I'll either keep somewhat trying to stay top 3 unless it is way too hectic

[hollow lagoon]

back when i didnt gap, and didnt know sp arena give gem, i just scorch earthed it, oh you attack me, welp ill attack you back, oh i'm out of attempts? welp that's what gems are for i suppose

[strange linden]

I'm lucky enough there's only one guy that attack me, games give too few attack free attempts so I'd be doomed to lose rank if more people attack

[tropic summit]

you beaten up all those poor peasants

[strange linden]

This mode just sucks and I'm forced to play for the gems

[hollow lagoon]

nobody near my rank would be pesants anyhow prob just home owners with mortgage, unfortunately for them i dont have mortgage anymore

[versed mesa]

I don't even really know how to "fix" the pvp system, since it is obviously tailored around trying to get people to spend for advantages over others.

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/smug-maki

[strange linden]

They should have never been a bracket shuffle, we should have kept being in the OG bracket where 99% of people are gone

[hollow lagoon]

EEEEENNNNNTTTTAAAARRRRTTTTTAAAAIIIINNNNMMMMEEEENNNNTTTTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[versed mesa]

I'm a day 1 player so my bracket might actually just be so dead that the shuffle might not even soon have anyone except addicted everyday loggers like me

[hollow lagoon]

hopefully this game run till i die of old age

[strange linden]

People might complain about this being too boring but screw them, I want a free 10 roll per 2 weeks

[tropic summit]

best we can do is EoS after surface content becomes repetitive grind hell

[craggy pier]

I totally forgot about surface content

[hollow lagoon]

i will miss my waifus

i was kind of fine with the surface stuff tbh, extra rock every once in a while was welcome

[tropic summit]

there's gonna be more waifus in better games, where your money might be even a tad better spent if it has to be spent

[hollow lagoon]

[craggy pier]

I just single pulled Cinderella just throwing 300's at SW

[tropic summit]

we're not too far away from prototypes of human-like AI bots with good/customizable appearence and that will do whatever you tell them to do

[strange linden]

I think they really cooked with Cinderella and I'll be sad when it'll eos because of that

[hollow lagoon]

already bought my cindy figure

[craggy pier]

Eos??

[hollow lagoon]

end of service~

my last gatcha that i played was Iron maiden Legacy of the Beast, ran for 8 years

[versed mesa]

Element of Surprise

[craggy pier]

I thought they were doing good i hope that doesnt happen

[hollow lagoon]

we def doing good

but feel like they diverting resource to another game atm

[craggy pier]

Oh i see

[hollow lagoon]

like for new years we didnt get a short new years event story unlike last year

and new treasures not announced

[versed mesa]

If they keep doing stuff like Stellar Blade I'll be happy with that.

[hollow lagoon]

honestly slowing down the character introductions is good for this game

last year was rough

triplle banners and limited pilgrims

give us some time to stock up resources and finish up some characters

[versed mesa]

Yeah, that is probably the biggest thing that has kept me away from gacha games until Nikke. Stuff just keeps coming before I got enough fun out of what was already there.

[craggy pier]

Yeah ive been saving up but really decked out my Snow White

[hollow lagoon]

need more dead on arrival characters like K and Sora hahahahahhahahahahaha

collect for waifu but dont spent resource

[craggy pier]

I just want Yulha's jacket to be removed and giver her fav item, and put Exias costume in cutscene

[hollow lagoon]

My union has a Yulha lover

[craggy pier]

Hell yeah

[rustic sandal]

YES! I HOPE I DON'T SEE KIETT AND JACKLB AGAIN!!!

[tropic summit]

who's gonna tell him?

[rustic sandal]

Oh wait... they're gonna stay huh?

[hollow lagoon]

have you considered, more whale going into your group>?

[rustic sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/kill-me-drink-bleach-gif-22890796

[craggy pier]

My yulha needs OL gear but im about to buy 3x Nhilister

[hollow lagoon]

maddness

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/pray-feet-1

[versed mesa]

I'm hoping for shuffle to do something for SP, but there is a chance that the reason I now have 3 annoying opponents is actually because the player pool is shrinking around my starting date, so chance is even more hc mfs are going to be added, instead of shuffled out

[hollow lagoon]

i hope shuffle dont merge me with the royal knight guy

'shudder'

[rustic sandal]

I'd be sick to my stomach if whale invades my rookie.

[hollow lagoon]

[gaunt pulsar]

my current rookie and sp are slightly different, that means there is a place for both to exist hope some movement happens in sp, but i guess some signs will be in rookie pool already

[versed mesa]

I'm happy that Rookie is so useless for any meaningful rewards

[rustic sandal]

I need those manuals.

[tropic summit]

...he's coming

[hollow lagoon]

[versed mesa]

I have two of the annoying opponents from SP also in my rookie. I think if the third one appears after tomorrows reset, I think that will pretty much guarantee that none of them will be shuffled out of SP

[tropic summit]

but with your superior cursed cookin' skills you'll prove yourself stronger

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

[versed mesa]

[craggy pier]

Mind if i post my sp defence for reccommendations?

[strange linden]

More like, do not make unit like Label ever again
I'd rather have a busted unit like bunny/TiaNaga at their release than this stupid unit that is useless on 99% of content even on PvP where she doesn't seems to be useful on CA but she has that niche that breaks a whole meta in PvP meaning you still have to roll for her

[hollow lagoon]

girl failure make u mad

[strange linden]

Maybe it's SU attempt to force people to pay

[hollow lagoon]

ask the rail

[tropic summit]

ask the zant

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/rule-6-gif-13749987567767943029

[craggy pier]

Haha

[hollow lagoon]

what's the point of making another cursed thing then fix it later

[tropic summit]

if the curse fails make it even more cursed

if you don't know what your team does, the opponent also won't

4D chess

[gaunt pulsar]

[tropic summit]

CP is well distributed, teams are fast, there's decent threat and antinuke/gimmics in each

don't see much to change here minus subbing scarlet because she's downright nerfed on defense

consider a nayuta or rosanna team instead

[craggy pier]

Okay thanks, is Bay any use? Mines built, but dont know how to keep her alive, low burst gen

Kk i just need to reroll rosannas gear

[glacial haven]

Yes, yes. He helped me on two teams. I cooked one team only. But nevertheless, he did manage to score a win.

[tropic summit]

if your defense breaks, switch to this, it's going to be rather transparent because it re-uses most units

[craggy pier]

Lol yeah i think i only did first roll for each of hers

[craggy pier]

Awesome thank you!

[tropic summit]

centi/anis/lappy are interchangable if you need to balance CP, just ensure you stay 2RL

if anis is used in T3, be careful she can steal indom so avoid using her in there

[strange linden]

Nayuta team is better than liberalio team for you? I was wondering what third team I could use when my two first teams were

Moran/Noah/SWHA/Ada/Trina
Jackal/rumani/VestiTU/Blanc/Centi

I opt for Noise/Bay(not treasure)/Liberalio/HelmT/LpT
It has 2RL but I honestly don't like how slow lib's burst is

[tropic summit]

lib B3 on defense is weak

will lose to indom and to even 3RL noah, as 2RL lib lands when 3RL noah B2 can be cast, meaning opponent won't even spend much burst gen units to deal with it

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit

[strange linden]

Yeah and I guess 2RL scarlet will kill lib first

[tropic summit]

i like that version 2

the emma sacc is wild 🍿

[strange linden]

Now that I think about it, they never did a fast aoe burst since Scarlet

[hollow lagoon]

Version 2 team 2 is rosana resistant

[coarse lake]

how

[hollow lagoon]

3 b3

[coarse lake]

... are we talking about same team? the emma one?

oh t2

[marble saddle]

will have to try i tommorow since season ended. plus he might change his def team now that he knows i can beat him, even if inconsistently

[coarse lake]

I mean technically I guess

until you jackal invuln

[marble saddle]

lets be grateful it aint 5 b2s instead

[tropic summit]

that'd be better for you

he can't punish you with fast team + CP pad

if he slows that team down to push CP up you can lib/vestiTU on deficit which is way easier

[marble saddle]

hes got almost every unit at c7 and at 701+ sync so he can def keep the cp gap up

[strange linden]

@tropic summit this is fine then? On nikke deck I had 102% at 2RL

[tropic summit]

ye looks ok

[marble saddle]

that depends on how much he wanna spend money. cause this guy used to be below me
then his wallet exploded

[tropic summit]

he learned the p2p ways

discovered that if he spends enough, he doesn't need to touch that gamemode anymore

[marble saddle]

pretty much, he couldnt beat me previously cause i kept changing teams in rookie
then he found out about cp gap strat and all of a sudden his sync is like 20-40 levels above and 90% of his PVP units have black doll symbols

[terse abyss]

damn this Eli vs arxce matchup i have no idea

[strange linden]

I'm doing something similar for SWHA but would that works against Sanis or Rosanna? They are the biggest threat

[craggy pier]

I think scarlet trina jackal counter shotguns because scarlet counters for each pellet

I may be wrong though

[hollow lagoon]

It would make anis comp a joke

Rosana depends

Slow comps like SG rosana in ca can’t do anything about it

But 2rl rosana will screw u

Unless of course

Their rosana ain’t lethal and then they just deal with Ada burst instead of sw burst

[shell hazel]

nice work, sorry was afk a bit getting food and such 🙂

[strange linden]

Yeah my ada is squishy right now, she doesn't have an SR15 yet
I'll try to get it asap and even then I'm not sure she can tank it at lb0

[shell hazel]

maybe could have nayuta'd t2 for the extra survival

weird their cindy didn't clear you though with no protection lol

[strange linden]

Is your jackal team 3RL or 2RL with feed? I could do the second version with lib and Emilia for more cp (tho is it fine if Vesti can't get the damage share? Not sure if she'll get it)

[hollow lagoon]

Mm I use helm twice? Hahah

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/helm-nikke-helm-nikke-goddess-of-victory-nikke-gov-nikke-gif-3078860819791695202

[strange linden]

Yeah I checked it but I remember that it could be higher with Jackal's feed
But not sure how much

[hollow lagoon]

11% charge speed on vest = 2.3rl

I don’t want indom comps toooo fast anyway

5% is like 2.5 8% is 2.33 11% more like 2.25

@craggy pier

[craggy pier]

Oh for getting Bay in? That looks like a good comp, i need to get laplace some charge speed, my Vesti has almost 20%

[hollow lagoon]

Laplace don’t need charged sped

U can also sub rapunzel with noise but it wont be as fun

[craggy pier]

Oh ok, well mine just needs her fourth gear OL'd for stats if nothing else

[hollow lagoon]

[craggy pier]

Rapunzel is one of the only Nikkes im missing lol

I do have Mana LB3 but no investment yet

[hollow lagoon]

Anyways they are forced to rosana the T1, mess with the indom in T2 that may or may not be 2rl or rosana it, lib nuke 3t and spend Noah on it to live or rosana or Indom

[strange linden]

This is what it looks like for me, I really hope my opponents don't have a big rosanna

[craggy pier]

Do Scarlet and Moran work on same team or does Trina only buff farthest left?

[hollow lagoon]

Don’t use scarlet on def

Canceled by

Free kell team

Free keels r bad

[coarse lake]

only farthest left

[strange linden]

It's only the most left one
I don't think it's thaaaat big of a deal for Moran but more damage is more damage

[hollow lagoon]

U can also use biscuit for t3 to make ur t3 absolute proof if u want

Like Moran Noah biscuit sw/helm Ada

Since running absolute +crown flora is a thing

For big robust spike damage

Do note my teams are pretty cursed and @tropic summit will give u stable performance teams but he prob sleepy

[strange linden]

I don't think I'll need her, I'm confident my Moran will survive, she's quite invested and she even manage to win on her own here lol
https://medal.tv/fr/games/goddess-of-victory-nikke/clips/lWY4s3RuGKwndg2EL?invite=cr-MSxKR0UsNDk4NjUwMzE0&v=30

Also I'm going from 2RL to 2.5RL so scarlet nuke would beat me (I think?)

[hollow lagoon]

Full absolute can surprise u mate, problem ain’t the Moran it’s the Noah

[strange linden]

True, Noah could die
I need to get her at SR15 too, so many unit to get doll max

[hollow lagoon]

No def is perfect

[strange linden]

Yeah but it was more manageable until they add

[hollow lagoon]

If u wanna fiddle with mana u can play with this

[strange linden]

Here's the issue ||she's not built||

[hollow lagoon]

Prob not worth building now days

[strange linden]

Is Bay worth building?

[hollow lagoon]

But she looks like this hot Japanese intern that worked at this chem lab I volunteered in back when I was in high school

[hollow lagoon]

She can save you from non lib nukes (scar Cindy etc)

Like Noah lite

My opinion is yes

Treasure is good but u can use non treasure version (but u prob need her in p4)

Lib nukes will over whelm bay, but it does force your opponent to lib nuke

Hence my bay set is also on lib nuke so we on mirrior, but if opponent wants to guarantee win they need to Noah

That means they can’t Noah else where

Or they can indom

Also means they are not indoming else where

So they have to Rosanna to kil ur t1 to win

Which is fine

They lose skip to t2

Swapping vesti to t1 and sw to t2 is ur next set after they figure out the rosana t1 for profit

Then they have to rosana t2 for profit

[quartz vortex]

do i put cinderella in pvp?

[umbral crown]

[quartz vortex]

would this live to be able to fight?

[strange linden]

You make it sound like it's painful to force use liberalio but like I said earlier, her burst is so slow even a 3RL noah can tank it, she doesn't have a lot of use case to me, it's good to know she can counter Bay tho.

So looking at your teams, I'd use Noah+Lib on T3 and T1 I'd Vesti+Blanc and it should be ggs for me

[hollow lagoon]

Vesti Blanc t1 is not guranteed win

[strange linden]

No lmao, don't use RRH on PvP

[quartz vortex]

rrh was for cp pad

[strange linden]

Oh? Why not?

Then Rosanna + VestiTU, I think mine with 80% ele dmg should kill SWHA

[hollow lagoon]

You could with that yes

[strange linden]

This only matter if your cp is way way higher than the other opponent which I don't think it would be the case unless you're a whale

[hollow lagoon]

But if ur doing that you could still have to deal with Ada

[winter kraken]

rumani instead of rapi and mihara in for centi and u have a stall team

[hollow lagoon]

Ur running rosana on vesti so ur gonna use a lot of resource to make that 2rl

[quartz vortex]

dnt have miharabc

[winter kraken]

are u trynna defend or attack a certain team?

[quartz vortex]

oh just defend for my last team

the 2 others

[winter kraken]

mm yeah rumani in rapi out

[hollow lagoon]

Not that it matters in my bracket

[haughty mortar]

These should win right?

[winter kraken]

yeah i like how nayutas gonna soak that entire sg def

[strange linden]

Wouldn't that be better actually to have a slower team like 3RL?

Since SW's attack is slow after her burst, I'd have time to burst and Rosanna could kill SW meaning you wasted a burst III

[quaint anchor]

did your opponent say we ball and just running pve teams

[hollow lagoon]

No def is perfect

[strange linden]

Where are those guys in my bracket

[quartz vortex]

what cube you use on cinderella in pvp?

[hollow lagoon]

My current defense

[strange linden]

You highest leveled cube for cp padding

I don't think it should matter on your bracket but Label made her useless so if you saw on someone's def comp or if you think someone used her, just switch the team

[haughty mortar]

SG (4RL) and mishmash PVE beyond 4rl team Just CP Pads

[hollow lagoon]

Bastion

[versed mesa]

These are cursed? Then why do they, with the exception of T3, look like what I used to run a few season back?

[strange linden]

Using scarlet team despite Label? Is your bracket that comfy

[hollow lagoon]

50% deficit gaming

[strange linden]

And wdym all core max
Smh 🐳 🐋

[hollow lagoon]

Dude these are so dated

[strange linden]

The insane luck to have non rate up pilgrim at core max