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I would go with A
What about the purple boxes Im still undecided
I wanted her no really about Arena. 
I would bring poliT to B at least
Nero S Grave A Nihilister B MAchineguns C or below
Shud I actually undemote Anis and Centi, and/or promote Trina instead?
Poli treasured can A
What is Grave doing
She gives Durability
Huh
oh yea right B then XD
Would still be used by low level players tho
PoliT > Poli?
yea
My na acc started with grave and didn't even use her once 
Hard to slot
Basically she has extra life and will take all team damage until shield breaks
Trina spot in threatened by Label....
Centi is still better than Anis purely because SSR.
- respawn shield when burst
I am tempted to move Grave to C
you can tho
can I move evryone in C B2 down to D because they are useless af
flora at least B, same as regular mast, used for same reason as absolute squad buffer
Hear me out
Just take all of C tier down and it'll be easier
SRos is there too anw, no point Grave in B

New players who only have C will cry man
yes
And product 23
Grave doesn't worth A. Probably C is good enough.
EmmaT and Tactical team really good as 3
C tier has fricking Sw ye I think Most of C tier can go down
yea my bad on that Go C

Laplace don't deserve C tho
how much is Nihil burst gen again
Less than product 23 
DON'T BUILD HER
14* at 2rl, actually where i'm looking might be wrong, sources differ
but product 23 is SG
That pilgrim equipments hurts
I wished our Lappy was like this so she could be SSS. 
Lappy deserves more than C tho
4k ultra hd
pretty strong
*clip SG
Downgrade all of C and she will deserve C 
Downgrading all of C fixes a lot
Then all of D can go to E
Nihilister is really bad to build but burst gen no feed C or b
eeee C for laplace kinda SUS
After downgrade it won't be
hear me out guys
people just use Naga cus shes built for PvE
thank you for listening
SSS Blanc Strongest SPA comp right now
Realest shit I've read all day
naga is bad pvp
burst gen low
I feel called out by that statement
actually u know what
I think I will just raise Guilty Leona and Marci to C
Poli gets moved up anw
Downgrade crust arcana folkwang naga rh eve selegg raven bmilk sw 
Cant place them in D when the D units in B1 are like that
I think Nero still worth S. She isn't top meta anymore but still steadily winning CA every season.... Maybe A if you wanted. But not lower
Put ade in useful tier. She can stop soda stun 100%
Nero has the advantage of the common player always losing to her 
reaklly? ADe?
Maid ade
Clay?
I think both Poli can go B
me n the Gang Doing Nikke tier reviews and decisions
Nihilister still staring at me
Almost everyone is common player compared to this guy I guess. (top of SEA). 
Just B her for Bad
Shud I actually undemote Anis and Centi, and/or promote Trina instead?
You can also be top of SEA if you whale more than HIM
DO IT
Meta line dropped to A tier+ so no longer S+
Yeah I could go with this.
Rank raci-
Her team 1 is basically Mihara counter cause most ppl put mihara comp team 1
u want Trina alongside Jackal Noah Biscu Blanc?
Trina to SSS, Centi SS, Anis S. Then Trina back to SS if Label kicked Scarlet usage down a notch. 
Then move up Moran and maybe even noise, if Trina goes up
Try to cook scar without trina just saying 
why notjust push up everyone
Good RL shud be SS or S at least
for burst gen alone
Maybe just put Anis down because we had so much burst gen nowadays and she is SR.
bro wants Jackal Noise Moran Noah Biscu Blanc Trina in SSS
Yea we want Anis to change Costume to Overspec yup
how about
try to cook Trina without Scarlet
She could be burst gen and buffer for Cindy.
Moran+Trina+Centi+Anis+Cindy
Back in my day SSS pvp used to be special 
I meant, Keripo did just that. Scar Indom and Trina buff Cindy
It is wrong
but did he win
Drop Anis is good enough
He did
I don't think he used it for a while
Not as much as this guy. Maybe once or twice with that comp I guess
put S at least for trina
bro wdym
man top winners are massives whales
I know but we are discussing SS and SSS. Where did S come from
oh
my bad
You was about to drop Anis and centi. I mean, just drop Anis alone.
Centi treatment, bgen unit
My global has that issue
Still uses trina
Idw anis and centi to be separate
My na had scarlet but no trina for long time
Much more awful experience
We have enough bgen that anis being sr is an actual downside
But almost no one use Anis anymore in high tier SpA while Centi still fine.
Anis in CA could make you misindom more and easier to be killed by SG than Centi.
Eeee but not enuf to 5 2RL teams
Trina alone doesn’t even nuke rumani in ca against slow Cindy sometimes. No sss 
Imagine no core 7 4 black atk crit scar 
1 question how many rocks

Don't need this much to nuke Rumani. 
How much
Depend on both player investment and research level

VS FAH2 how much
Just crit
I guess Miranda is stronk on that regard

Miranda does not help you crit
NANI
Does mirT crit rate work for scar nuke if she's reloading when casting nuke 
No. Nuke happened before fb

Ah s* I should have put Endurance on Anis... She is in an Indom team and I could lose to a random SBS .... Ruining this CA. 
Fml....
Not even FAH2 can stop RNG
This was a RNG I could avoid
No I mean the Random SBS from downtown
She won't hit Anis if I put Endurance on her
Nani please explain
SBS hit lowest DEF on third attack. Which is often Anis because SR, causing Misindom.
Equipping Endurance cube prevent that
hmmmm noice thanks
info
If I lost to a random SBS this CA I would be so mad. 
I will put Anis exclusively with Endurance cube from now on. 
anyone can suggest which 3 sp arena def teams I can run?
Check rheax post in pin.
Idk if it up to date but try
yea I'm looking but I'm unsure what's good what's not
also do you know what the note means on cindy comps?
tf is label
2rl Blanc-Vesti/SW
2rl Noah-Vesti/SW
2rl Scar-Trina
I see, that's enough for me to make some teams
The newest unit
I guess whether drop one, drop both or keep both won't affect much. Do whatever you want. 
Centi is better than Anis most the time though.
I used to be "top of SEA" 16 seasons ago. That's enough for me. 
Bro, send me you bracket winner teams this CA, thank u
Like SAnis
Last one isn't 2rl
Jackal/Helm/SW would each help make 1 2rl team
oh wait oopsie, I looked at wrong comp in the pin
Hi Im back
14 month 
I see
Oooo
But one tier diff?
Should be 1 tier diff
Other wise you are telling people what’s the point of getting poli into poliT
I dont think its enuf for 1 tier diff
The point is its not enuf diff to put in another tier

Same usage
More like no usage
Emma and delta ninja should go to same tier
Prob around/below clip shotguns
Mast (base mast) crown flora should be below / around Emma /delta ninja
Eh I dunno I'd say Centi vs Anis is a no-brainer. Centi is SSR and can max dupe, her skills are more useful than Anis if she actually does need to b2 (other b2 dies) and maybe eventually gets a treasure
for me Anis is lower prio to build even with similar burst gen
Anis gona get phased out the moment we get another thing that provide similar gen
Tag
Anis is good but it's essentially dead unit build wise
Yeah Ig core 7 is a good reason I will promote 1 tier for that
Also scarlet can very much drop a tier 
and yeah if you can't quite fit in everyone Anis is first to go
We’ll talk to multi CA winner @shell hazel about 100% scarlet usage then
Scarlet will depend how prevalent Label usage gets
The problem is I dont want Trina in SSS and I dont want Centi = Trina in SS
Scarlet will likely drop out of the meta at some point like S.Anis did
Tis no brainer
Trina > Centi > Anis for sure
Yes but I dont want Trina in SSS
U hate the design or something?
Because that wud be saying she is as impactful as Jackal Biscuit Noah Scarlet SWHA Emilia HelmTr and TVesti
do you consider sub position a thing? I mean for me even in SS or w/e the left most one is usually the best in that tier
No
Trina will buff any new AR elec as well, could be very clutch
I do think Scarlet may warrant a tier lower than SSS now tbh
with Label countering her if someone uses Scarlet on SPA def it's enough of a reason
she is a step below Vesti/SW etc on the b3 list now for me
Need a team that beat mine and enemy
That doesn't change Trina's rating position though
Trina is the best b2 gen battery that isn't Noah basically, as good as blanc/biscuit can be they have low gen
you need Trina and crew to make them work
If we talk about how impactful Trina is, against some versions of indom vesti one of the most popular defense comps,Trina is a critical piece to achieve 100% win rate, scarlet can do nothing against thous, jackal is not involved Blanc not involved, it’s just Trina Moran Noah. Moran is one of the go to p1 defenders for attack and def in SPA and CA and Trina is one of the highest protential unit with Moran
I'm running scarletless CA for the first time and it wasn't just Label that made me consider it
intro of vesti and sw and others has made Scarlet less reliable as most teams have anti nuke and 2RL now
imo trina is the best b2 along side blanc / noah / biscuit and would warrant a place at the top until we get some new meta stuff
Basically scarlet threat is carried by gamba with soda
U might as well make soda sss and scarlet ss
@shell hazel well I guess there’s also sac scar to rosana for profit but idk if scarlet is on same tier as Emma

scar counters whilst being sacrficed as well 😄

Yeah maybe she can stay sss
Trick enemy player into thinking I’m doing scar burst
But I’m actually doing lib nuke
emma though controls where she taunts so can position
imagine trying to sac scar at p1 and you're against defending SG they'll just hit your p5
That’s the thing
In that case it becomes scar nuke in reverse

It’s like lib nuke vs scar nuke choose your options
if you even get to b3
Lib
Threat is bigger
Good gen and strong nuke, easily blocked but that goes with every nuke

Ya hit or u don’t but u force enemy to Noah it because it goes thru bay for whatever reason
So lib nuke is less resisted Vs scar nuke
Scarlet burst is instant. Most other meta arent.
And so are other nukes
Multiple vids here showing lib nuke go thru bay ur missing out
bay kind of mid at blocking nukes outside of scar/cindy
vesti overwhelms bay
lib bypasses bay
sw overwhelms bay
Wew
Lib force your opponent to Noah
Ig no pvp tl revamp till I can decide muehehe
and if you happen to send rapi at it, she blows up bay and the whole team with the damage share too 😛
bay is just noah at home
Anywho Trina stays SS, Centi Anis go to S imo
You just reminded me of the rapi b1+xb3+ada dual leech comp

I totally forgot what were the pieces
If ure not using Scarlet then Trina's value also drops
i'm running with moran this CA curious to see how it does 
Trina maintain value via Moran still, and u still buff lib nuke with it
Still better than Centi so Im giving her SS. Centi Anis go S. S will be Mihara, Ada and the gang.
If u wanna buff lib nuke for whatever reason
my moran trina
Centi going same tier as anis is fair
Yeah Moran is SS so Trina being SS is fair
But as soon as another clip RL shows up anis should go lower
What is this
in truth rumani would usually be on same level as centi but we have so few good b1 options that she's higher there
Yes Rumani is rated higher
2 hours ish to see if my cook is cooked
oh I'm so cooked lol
cooking or cooked, we'll have to see

I still think label Nayuta Cindy slow Cindy would be better than trying to derp out with Mihara sac
But then SG in shambles
Can you check my changes screenshot
which one?
if you want people to check the tier list before you make lots of changes it would be even better to have a beta version of it that is live so to speak
because then you can see proposed positions more easily
I cant add pics that way just texts
yeah I saw it it's just hard to visualise where this winds up looking like because of stuff flying all over the place

atm it's like this
Yeah I will make a sheet later with my changes
Thank you
which I get. but harder to make sense of what it will be after you move all the things around lol
a text version or spreadsheet with just names would be easier to re-arrange
What does purple box mean?
AI may even be able to spit out such a thing, though it struggled a bit to work out the tier list data because it's user filtered when I asked it to
33 boss was annoying. Jaw said you used SW? what comp did you run for MC?
guessing SW was good for the slippers.
I didn't have SW when I did MC or 33 boss as it was before she came out. but I can see how SW would be capable of nailing the slippers to help
Time to eat roasted fish with sumai 
I used swha on normal ziz for my friend’s account
SW carried me yeah
i am on 33 boss and i want to cry
this was my 33 boss it was extremely messy I ran vesti because she could kill the parts, none of my other snipers could do it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpROLLo2mKY
crown cind rapi SW helm @shell hazel
very cool nicely done indeed 🙂
btw SW makes 36 boss easier too, 501 clear possible or a bit behind if you got anchor built
if you don't one tap the shoulders like the slippers for 33 boss they go immune
33boss I used Ein Laplace true damage build, idk what I did when I malded my friend’s, it’s like read redcirxle charge time and get lucky
I think I did Ein vesti?
there is a debuff on the boss that ticks down, cover and one tap with a strong nuker like SW or Vesti burst
if you auto shoot the boss the shoulders just go immune and it has 50 million def
The one tap is readable redcircle
I think SW would work well here
Idk I just tru damaged it
figure if u can pass mirrior container u can pass this thing
if the boss gets that + icon the shoulders are immune, one per shoulder
so you can wait it out and cover/burst gen, then hit the shoulders with a larger nuke at once
liter here was good for b1 cover rep
built Ein can do the shoulders too, mine wasn't good enough
ysteri cleared MC quite early same as me 461
Just my 481 copium
Yall needed 461? 
Trust me it aint that great I just spent 50 rock yesterday for nothing
you don't need help for this one
, it's biscuitless and indomless vestiTU in T2
keep T1 as is
indom T2 2RL with any indom that is not wind code (need 862k CP)
jackal indom flex blanc centi (if blanc is SR15 tempering you can keep her in p3)
ye looks good then
To me all of you are rock cheater, how have I not gotten a single character to 4 ele is mystery
Maybe I’m just that cursed
retro absolutely bosses his SW with less rocks than I spent by far 😄
it's a scarily good SW
She's just fine 
show him your SW retro!
Meanwhile anything 3 ele or 3 atk is good in my account if I have both I think I was blessed

not even 12 lines
@oblique gyro my old nemesis is skill issued on MC and can't beat it even at 489 sync 
I want it would put me below 1% solo raid on her own with your rolls :9
I could have cleared it sub 481 with my current account power
how is he still there
it's good for me means he's slow as balls
Is he even in your bracket
nah but I find if I had someone before it may shuffle me in again
so I keep track of them vs mine progress
lot of people struggle on MC they don't want to invest emotions on him XD
Well it would be him dealing with you not the other way around
eventually though raw cp would win it
One of my friend just made me mald it instead 
yeah it was very much the other way around before
30 sync less + max core whale teams
was fighting crap like this before vesti/sw
even their underwear are max core
exactly, and we all know that removes the underwear
He out pulls me
I'd not ever want to do this can only beat the boss once. I gotta do it myself
I know which is why I rejected some one offering to mald my boss before
May have been retro
retro can clear it one handed
the paradox of ultra whels
- don't check how to clear stages or the internet
- don't improve themselves
- wait till the gap makes it no brain enough
which is good because max core underwear removal
I would say I’m atleast decent 
dangerous when whel + knows what they're doing though lol
zanta is killer whale
apex whel 🐳
Mw before 301 is something
321 ish
SwHA make mob clear easy but port dmg is...
ye like you, zanta and hime 
I'm malding something else rn
although hippo is leaning more on dolphino
I was here 
All Deez whales ruining my ca
wut you maldin' 
22 was whel or was it nihil?
Real ones know what this is
oh wow you picked up a bad beast there 
Nihil
good luck to you good my good sir
yeah it's not $0 spent but it's not insane money either... more dolphin but I spend a bit more if a gacha skin I want
Whale 21
gotta get the lewds 
I skip a lot of them tbh
Wont this work? @tropic summit
By that point my RH ain’t even invested
I cleared whale on Laplace Modernia
I'm just waiting for AI hardware costs to increase the value of my spinny hard drives then I'll sell em
And then I discovered rapi explosion can tag whale bombs when I do tower and it was over 
Nayuta happens then and now swha
yeah I cleared latest tribe whale with nayuta but I wasn't strong enough to take the core down
so I had to use crown taunt on the elite wave
Speaking of port damage that’s just red cube of destruction’s job
yes that's a different approach on T3, blanc in p1 so she's siren weak as long as you know opponent doesn't have the CS%, which is a gamble
my approach has no RNG, this approach has RNG
could work, but you take more risk of assuming opponent has no CS%
I usually don’t get core down period I always play the port game
Prob piercer+ red cube
that fight gets stupidly easy if you kill it though
but if you can't, then just kill ports and mobs and have a plan to sac/taunt on the elites
Low fps can't do crown taunt
Taunt/sac the elites is un avoidable no?
the taunt timing is fairly tight too
Gamble?
they do nothing if core is dead
don't be lazy and cook T2... 
Didn’t know
Allright


My sync in shambles 
Commander level pass my sync by 9
MF... 
503 rail
I though u were like 481 something
Much suprised
with boxes i'm 541+ 
waitin' on february
Cheater
Jackal/libe/sw/blanc/centi?
Its 851k so under deficit but its 2RL
mine gone past by 100 :9
Register’s in my birthday
Put Trina left of Centi. Left mean better. 
presentu desu
@shell hazel we r bound by fate you and i
what's lib ele code
Sorry forgot that
I think is wind or water
there are good indoms on eletric, water and fire, look at your box 
they've no anti nuke... so...
Sw?
You could consider Scarlet SS, Trina SSS? 


Them both in same team anyway. Let Scarlet take the fall
If you don't want Trina Centi same tier
iron code lib, instead of tsunami it's earthquake 
fire code lib, instead of tsunami it's meteor 
eletric code lib, instead of tsunami|| it's deeze nuts
||
Label’s basically made to ruin scarlet’s day anyway(prob even just soda scar, hood scar can out put enough I feel
not sure even hood scar can beat it
Iron code lib is lightning storm fire code lib is hurricane , water code lib is earthquake, electric code lib is volcanic explosin
Anis would be Iron and the gust from her fart would bow enemy team away. 


Lib is off element on water she would be off element elsewhere as well
she can be off element in my bed too
Which also means there’s gonna be a element version of Siren that swim through lava
lava fish 
After a few years of power creep they would make Dark and Light Ele soon.
and 0.5% rate pilgrims
Roasted fish 
wow adding a new code?
SU: we don't do that here, game already breaks when we release a new unit that does anything different 
They would make new faction for that. Like the Alien that drove the queen to Earth
They just make queen tier nikkes, pull Liliweiss (stepmother) and pull only one (daughter)

Not waifus very sad
To make queen tier nikkes they must have above queen tier enemy
We just take them down with the power of numbers 
@tropic summit its either jackal/cindy/sw/blanc/centi with 2.5 RL but no deficit or jackal/ein(or scarlet)/sw/blanc/centi with that its 2RL but deficit(with scar its 848k with ein its 843k but scar has more burst gen)
“Blood” the all life juice god

Did u get ur def teams from rail
Or anybody here
If u did then it means ur opponent is smart
And it means it dorover 
post your box
New code but same effects. 
welcome to the average arena experience where opponents know what they doing 
We know sea creatures are wind codes Atleast
Well, rail own def couldn't hold either.

Opponent smart dorover
Just be zan and auto 3 team
My def teams are functional, they are just old
you on jackal, they feed you + you have quantums, even that cindy team can be natural 2rl with 3 quantums
but yea, better post your box
Here


Idk what you mean but go attack C3 now.
check CP with T2, then check if SWHa and laplaceT are linked
laplaceT more HP than SWHA
i'm already CH1 
I get my def here and have rail help me on 3rd team
haven't moved since 3 months, good times, best reshuffle ever
not only are my opponents smart
they are also malds
Okay,one sec
should I train mana
My opinion is no
@swift mango look at this beauty
I’m the biggest mana glazer, she ca unit with niche use case
She has more hp and its 889k
Allthough its 2RL right?
why are you asking me, do your own check 
stop being lazy 
tempering on SWHA, lappy, blanc (blanc SR15 you gotta tank vestiTU fire weakness hits)
bay w/e
jackal quantum
Rail being tsudere and checks for him anyway and tell him cube placement

I am 662 now
4more sync for 666
yeah
I robbed someone's here
was it urs
dafuq scar bay ros on 3RL 
U sac scarlet for lib nuke and in reverse sac lib for scar nuke
Okay chill i just thought you did. Whats w/e?
Was a thing I build off of my friend’s incomplete box 
From resident c4 to c1 is huge improvement.
Too bad there are only 2spa bracket at my level in SEA. 
i can smell the copium 

i smell the isekai coming in 2 weeks gonna ruin the fun
w/e means whatever
Okay,im running it
well endowed
I’m not
thx

no I havent, I just dont have mana
Looking as big boy’s bracket mana might not be needed if ur Blanc is thicc enough ti take vesti splash
Just put whatever high attacker with higher hp than vestei prob
@tropic summit Worked,thank you
I might get 2.7k gem this season
Wow u insane teach me how
you're probably the only box i ever seen where i've to use bayT as a CP pad unit 
you gotta keep using her when you fighting deficit, she's both your saviour and anchor at same time, heavy weight to carry at least she's mag RL
I meant the special arena
Zant doing same as me.....
Wot
I know
and he started months later 
Tbf I only one tried it
That's not 2 ele you 
Holy dmg bro
But its from before,so i dropped down to 3.11%
the crazy thing is that zant is not only ahead of me, but soon ahead of my own whale in my bracket @fathom rock
Nikkunny sounds like a chill union ngl
how big of a whale are you if you can outwhale a whale who started months earlier? wild 
Mother whale
they seem to rank pretty high every UR
I did it on my friend’s account 14.38 I think , dropped to 3.03
That's phantom show snow show helm show sdoro
You siad 2 ele me
I said that's not 2 ele you 
Phantom is me I splel like shit
@hollow lagoon looks at my own phantom... ye... you stay there 
this is a war crime, jail this man 
0 ele Selegg 
he's playing a different game than us 
More like no way ele is this massive compared to crit rolls 
tbf i don't think the day zant starts to regularly appear in top 100 is too far away
Yeah is better but is it MUCH better
Absolutely 
I can't on my phone but I can show u dmg formula 
Is my Bay build good?
@tropic summit just once rerolled
🍿
I saw the formula
Then you know
My first 220k btw
CS% 15-24%
def 40%
would be a good start... she's just very fat in CP it seems 
how bad are your other units if this is your strongest Bay 
The only winning move is not to play ahh
I expected better tbh
Cp≠good lines?

The thing is ive only once rerolled her stat,the other 3 is all from the upgrading
you could have 4 hit rate black lines they'd give you more CP than 4 average atk% lines
Trust me,i can do way better
I expected more love tbh

ye don't, improve your other units 
they better to have good lines
but having cp pad pieces isn't bad either, it's just your Bay is barely rolled, she is on initial rocks that lucky rolled on 3 pieces with 3 lines, expected more invest
I love her so much i dont need to change it
Surely bay love is enough for 12/12 blacks
@tropic summit I resigned my fate to perma 0.5-1% I’m on the neutural side of things 
@tropic summit retro might be right. I must stop investing on my units and build Bay 12 black lines
bayT solo raid boss let's go 
But nah,she is perfect the way she is
dafuq why, go score top 100 you deserve it, look at the scores you makin' already 
Until more units like Selegg come out and ele lovers like @fathom rock gets diluted into shambles and then my crit rolls can shine

So i wont reroll any
he's not an ele love, he's just poor, like me 
I’m poor too
I spent 72 and it's 150% better than the 10 rock version 
How the hell yall getting that much rocks???
either way time to go drive and do groceries with pain, took my (non working) painkillers, wish me luck 
You make more in 1 month
@fathom rock does it help if I max my unit skills
Like grave
Will I go higher in the rankings

I always spent them.
Unironically that's from the start of this year
Use some weeds 
it's simple, you steal them from @shell hazel on a regular basis
I have 0
Holy,bro i have 3
yeah that's gonna make me see blanc dancing in front of me instead of cars 
3 more than me
The only thing that i passed you over
I'm actually in rock debt
Prob pass me in ele in units as well
No come back I have a 2 ele sbs
U didn’t finish laughing at me yet
Hmm...all ele,atk and def black lines on Bay?

I have 4. 💪
I have zero
It do be like that
I mean,its decent?
thats good, more attack would be better, but it's good enough
Better than mine 
i'm in the car, i'll just consider i didn't read this line and didn't look at my phone
lib doesn't need CS% luckely for you anyway 

She needs 0 or 21+
That 1 cs came at great cost
58 rocks 
This man here really abandoned PvE.
havent even started, i've just dropped so much and didn't had chance to work on her more 
Breec
Not only in pvp but also pve

I got 0 cs, 0 ammo on Lib 
So much check list CS I didn't do. 21-25% Emi. 21% Libby. 15% Vesti. 
Nice ele
Above 90 is whale
Whale with an asterisk
Rhea breecing himself
My Nayuta 
Whats your Nayuta
You mean rock bottom

Wait, what?
For this matchup, I’m bursting first which means I’m applying indom first.. shouldn’t that mean my indom wears off first? How come I’m consistently winning the matchup when it ends up in a 1hp 1v1

Cinderella almost killed everyone then your Mihara indomed won 1v1
With basic attacks I suppose
Am i just lucky that he happens to be reloading right as my indom wears off.. lol
Okeh Blackwil bro, I'm weak, but not SO weak 
Indom Midhara stronk
Bros gonna lose next CA cus he won this time
Only took me 21 CA seasons to get my first top 64 
Technically you can just mirror indom with a nikke that has higher fire rate
well your indom is much slower than them
ros conceal op
It's supposed to be rumani indom
I lose in League as expected.
This 2rl wannabe is full win
I think karma is real you guys. First time in almost 9 months that I probably won't finish top 3 in SP arena, but instead I get out of advance for the first time ever in CA 
I can retire now, doesn't even matter that I will 100% lose my first match in Top64 

Another CA where I placed a bricked linked team 
There is still 10 day in SP, but unless the 681 boost gives me some leverage and maybe getting some better defense teams made that actually hold, doesn't look good. Was even C5 for about 7 hours due to shenanigans from other people 
A little less than 4k diff in atk when it became sync 400, wrong link, wrong indom 
If one of the whales actually has decided to use gems like the other two, then that will definitely be the final nail in my coffin as a never use more than the free tickets player
Maybe I should roll off Ele. This match up doesn't work because my SW too strong.
At least I know to not use it anymore
@tropic summit mis indomed soline cuz scarlet counter
guess its a pick between sg weak or scar weak for my thing
or i gib soline OL
I think it's just because you can't screen wipe biscuit team with only a follow up attack
You should make helmt go first
Watch again... My bay lose her Cover because my SW killed Midhara with her normal attack. 
That's the disadvantage of having many atk line
Oh right she tanked all allies dot
I'm sorry for my league mates, they should have passed instead of me, I went in with 2 brick teams.. I won league 3:2 against all of them, and lose on the exact brick teams 
My SW wasn't this strong last CA. 
@hollow lagoon 
I didn't record XD
This CA. 
Not yet happened
oh okay okay
cause I was always losing prelims XD
surprisingly enuf I won prelims this time my Vest Abosolute won vs Nero Moran
really Close
Luckily Mana didn't ressurect anyone
died to VesT burst XD
Tried for a label dupe.
Hahahahahhaha Insane outcomee
Ur lucky man I tried 80 pulls gave me 0 SSR
0
I had 2 brick teams, yet opponent 1 lost all 5, opponent two lost 4 and the last one who actually seemed like he knew what he was doing, probably lost to my 3 "actual" proper teams just by unlucky team positions 
Not much luck because I would max core HelmT with the guarantee. Already MLB Crown. Doesn't use Ein.
Lucky but not. 
I got the message with Crown so I stop
But still have SSR tho
Could someone suggest me pvp teams
bro u even got crown
you make a handicap for yourself and still won?
What's the 3 team that won all?
Very good 30 pulls just not what I wanted. 
30 and crown MINE WAS 80 With Nothing BRUH
XD gimme ur crown please
My last 3 pilgrim molds gave 3 belortas
Make her a battery next

Usual Nero team, Noise Rosanna Lib, Label team
Dude thats normal luck
damn
Try opening 8 and get nothing
Doesn't change anything. Just have to use different team.
Because she would still kill Midhara off burst 
did u lose cus u tried my cursed stuff or what
Story of my C.A life always
what did u delete
won 3-2 2x, lost 1-4 1x
I'm curious about label team
The later part of the comment you quote. I just add them to 1 comment
yea I should've changed my teams

I saw that 
Its just slow Cindy with Label
Oh changing rumani to her?
This comp isn't bad
I lost so can't take my revenge against this team. 
when Rapunzel stuns all + Rumani Taunts Shotgun teams
I use Nayuta not Mihara, and Label at P1
that's what i wasnted to try but eah
you got absoluted
Dorky win 
and you got labeled
scarlet in shambles
it's a funny CA season
Didn't even need to burst chain to win 
cursed teams only go so far
iknow
the one team scarlet could solidly counter
now in shambles
Nah I mean, just my team order could beat him I lost in league. 
Whale luck I guess.

it's fine it was funny so I don't mind
f2p only win in rookie brackets
boooo. didn’t make it to the next round of CA. i’m thinking of adding Soda to my Scarlett team. will i need to OL her and any skill investments ?
which team lost the most
Poor soda, got baited with label's first self stun
@cunning crown u killed the top 8 rapi
oh wait its hood now
This is so doro over. Even my Helm with 0ATK got linked over Label 
3-0 team: Moran Noah Trina SWHA Ada
1-2 teams: the rest 
no team went 0-3
I mean, attacker will have higher atk than defenders
swha ada opop i guess
Look ma, I did a thing!
unless you OL lvl 5 all defender atk gear and slap purple gear on your attacker
I guess I could use Slow Cindy with Label at least
Oh i won against a weird label
True Cause Label wrecks electric teams
Time to test label team
well i guess that can happen against scarlet specifically, soline feeds
but that's 1 out of 5 chances... then again ye just put a better flex and put a stone on it if you fear scarlet matchups 
i know but
you critted cindy MF 

It's to be expected as I have 3 crit lines

"to be expected" he says 
No wonder this didn't work out
All label does is get stunned in p1
Was your Label before or after Jackal?
Does it matter? This is shooting range. 
Yes it matters
Her atk buff is an on entry buff coz delusion is on entry
Jackal is also an on entry buff
So if you place Label after Jackal, jumping Jackal is applied first before Label atk buff is appliex
It doesn't really matter. Mana would always take the link for example
@tropic summit I'm a real boy! Only took 21 seasons of trying 
On your HelmT, not Mana
@glad meteor @umbral crown gonna be spectating you guys, i got team ordering diffed
@upper grove @tropic summit the struggle
still who needs 2nd cycle anyway
Ca beta approaching 1 year anniversary soon
MF that's matchup advantage 
And we still getting rng diffed
What makes Label get linked is due to her S2.. but if Jumping Jackal is applied first, Label has yet her S2 at that time so even she should be linked, she wouldn't
what beta, this is final version 

Hey you are right, it does go from left to right 
what do u mean i dont get leech for 10 whole seconds from that invuln noah
can anyone help me on what teams i should use for sp arena?
Yup
MF their team damage is lost at 2RL the moment you noah'ed it 
they then need to auto a f*ing lifesteal moran
Awesome lets go!

that's not my problem, i'm saying they died before 2nd cycle comes into question to begin with
not much of a talker but a lot of the discussions here helped out tons
I guess I could use Mana to bait Rosa dispell and still keep the link.
ye but your lineup literally counters theirs, you wouldn't need a 2nd cycle at all 
who would i need 2nd cycle against if i can melt a defender set anyway
Is Hippo here
Did you try?
@shell hazel he's taking a shower
Oh
Yeah, I was like why did she had no link when I was trying in AI 
i should impost a tax for summoning my union people 
I mean using Mana to make Rosa dispell her and keep your p1 linked. 
You could also let her be dispelled but still retain linked
@versed mesa winning run time
i gave him an alibi, i think i should get paid for that tax instead 
Just 4 other buffs as decoy aside from jumping Jackal is enough to save the link
just hit them 

just auto em
Btw @tropic summit when you got the time can you look at my defense teams and box for SP? Doesn't look very gouda for my chances of top 3, but I'm not fully giving up yet. Next synchro level gives me CP boost, so if I can trip up my opponents even a little might have a chance.
true blue cp campaign enjoyers
Isn't dispell random?
or in zant's case: blue cp SP gap enjoyers
Nope, first buff first out
that ch1 chair probably growing mold by now
can enjoy the jiggles longer
If BSoda and Noir are in A, shud DrakeTr be in S?
true minmax
Then how linked out last.
new meta
Jackal P5
Story of my C.A Life XD I can relate
the rest of the bracket: when will this whale leave our bracket 
Then 4 other on entry buffs to the decoy unit within P1-P4
he has probably the biggest aggro in his bracket, ppl with a knife waiting to stab him in the flanks 
Jumping Jackal is Def buff first before link buff, so just 4 buffs as decoy is enough to retain the link as the last buff to be dispelled is JJ's def buff and not the link buff
Some people here even made Calculations of burst gens n stuff you will many nerds here that will help your pvp life in Nikke
noone was aggro enough to spend as much as him, a true rival will rise soon 
especilly whey look at my outdated def comps, they prob thingk man i can yeet that s easy if not the cp 
i heard a certain korean guy approaches
We're already thinking of Rossana counters?
I mean where that 4 buff come from 
only for then discovering the harsh truth, if it ever happens in the first place 
Ayo I am ded
Zero answer to my question
It's always Cinema whenever C.A starts
rail will finally gib me def comps 
how to win against this in rookie arena?
it's actually first time I saw a 0% cheer
I am sadge 
depends on game mode and side
SG on def are cheesable
SG on CA are situational, specifically drakeT burst can be situationally good or bad, bsoda burst is preferable albet mid tier, noir is even weaker
then you've elemental advantages... drakeT can eat wind, namely noah, so that's a plus... bsoda although can counter most elec, which is even better... then you got noir who can put pressure on iron code, but it's meager
SG on attack in SP arena? can be abusable to hit vulnerable p1s, so higher tier than on def
bsoda and drake + same tiers
I'am also losing in cheers bruh whether I win or not 
Mmh for example, Like P1 Label, label herself as link is 3 buffs already, can add any other on entry buff like Mast the buffs Label, she gets dispelled but her link is still in tact
hard to say, noir being windcode is advantage
needs her to die, drake buff sg but cant die fast enough
@swift mango
brid 
Oh cool I can vote on my own match. Obviously I vote for my opponent since no way in hell am I winning
and I need those cheer credits boxes badly.
Its not a proper team, just to test out Rosanna dispel order 
Most guys who cheers just look at last season placement anyways I'am always advance so understandable
that's how it b
wow i'm "everyone else" alrighty, friendship ruined, reported and blocked 
i won ca 3x my opnion should matter
Noooo
I actually got to top 8 2 CAs ago

So Relatable XD
faith
always vote your self
how big of a difference like a 300k+ cp difference makes in CA
YESS I MOVED TO 33%!
SSS SWHA, TVesti, Emilia, HelmTr Scarlet
SS Liberalio, Cindy, XMaiden,
S Ada Wong, MiharaBC
A DrakeTr, BSoda, Noir
No way in hell am I that lucky, I think even the fact I got through advance this time was purely position rng
But it does tho as long as your not Trolling
I think that 6 hours credit box is more important
Now, pray tell, where does LaplaceTr go?
i aint getting loser frame that stuff bad juju
dude the opposite of the other guy 0% also 2nd time I saw 1
drake T gen with no feed 
S For me opinion
How
comps like
Guess I will need to build Label with 4 AtK. 
life steal lazer is a thing
Vest T Emilia Laplace are like Psedu Abosolute comp
Why not? If your opponent immediately voted themselves first then it would be 0%
Why S and not SS?
if you put Moran Noah then Absolute comp with defense






