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Don't have any other archetype to replace my Scar Trina that was just built so gonna keep using her
Iirc there's a bracket out there that's keripo, his punching bag, konto and skyjlv
that bracket sounds like nightmare
but scarlet team can just be moved to hit another team instead of label 
i'm not sure if i'm missing something but isn't it possible for Label to die against Scarlet because AR
If only I could pick what teams hits enemies when I'm defending
even with shield
Even with damage reduce?
oh right
just swap team 2 and 3 all the time and pray they dont check 
im not pulling label cuz i can beat scar easily 

sHE GIVES TEAM with 70% reduced damage at level 10
baka
My rock brick these last 2 weeks paid off. I got purple fake out Label in 10 pulls. 
for 5 seconds
wait does that mean i can run Label with SG and not auto lose into Scarlet
ya

But Rosa won against scarlet already and more. 
just think of it as free moran buff 2x vs electric units
for 5 seconds team wide buff at beginning of battle
use rosa for another team -. -
what are ppl cooking with label 
i cannot test label in pvp. rookie all run vesti
spa all with 50 levels higher

I don't have book for her until next CA. 
I'm also out of books 
not gonna whale on books 
that's a choice you making 
still salty I missed top 200 by less than 400m so my books felt even more wasted 
i knew i wasn't getting above 1% on mobile and without soline this raid
I honestly should stop spending extra books on solo raid only units.
well i probs could but i didn't wanna mald on mobile
if you stick to that element it's not too bad
ill fix helm and other water units, which element should i focus on next though
I've been 0.5% for a while now so only top 200 left as a goal for select elements, electric will stay dead
need skill reset to bring some raid units back to level 7 or below. 
Please help me set up 3 teams for PVP.
Does label damage reduction against electric stack with temper moran srdoll?
What are the first impressions 
My units that may get a reset. May be S.Anis as well. 
Well, Rouge at least still has use for cindy on ele
777 enough
I hate how Eve needs s3lv10 to function.
7710 then.
How much should I raise label?
F
My noir is getting reset for sure
My noir is 1055, no reset.
@swift mango @tropic summit is there something I can abuse? Because my Blanc would be linked over rapunzel

Fire asuka is 10107 so for sure getting reset
Oh right
I wonder if I should make my Liter and Blanc bursts 10 
Mod, Fire Asuka and Rei.A soon reset 
Tove for Doro and DKW for Tower tho
Next fire DPS, Rei.A will be out
I guess you can just make RRH b1 and go helm vesti
I meant for Ely tower mb
Unless your DKW is busted you would benefit from deficit
Oh yeah my 10101 mod should probs be reset back down to 771
what's doro?
B1 doro
Mari, Maxwell, Noir, Doro, Priv, Laplace, Leona into the skill reset pile 
Oh mana too my 10710 mana 
SSak too 

I believe in Maxwell and Priv, they'll get their treasure soon 
Priv treasure come back would be great
Sad
They will be missed
I only reset toget back yellow books. no shame about purple books investments
Oh wait
150 pulls zero elegg so I had to spend my only 800 tickets for her burst screen. This game hate me so I hate it back
Fire Asuka was SSS, and now out of meta 
Sad
Regret MLB-ing her 
mine is still 777 from her first raid and she is fine that way.
Asuka deadge
2 cdr units and tove 
if you ignore SR that's fine I guess 
why reset tove, what you gonna use the mats for 
I hate units like Eve/S.Anis who need lv9 - max skill 3 to function. The rest are fine at 777
Keep her 777, the yellow books I take it back.
ahh might as well keep it and reset the others instead 
No
I mean confirm uself
*No, u shud confirm urself because youre a mather
Can u ask for secret text
BRO HOW CAN I EDIT THIS WITHOUT IT SOUNDING WRONG
I prioritize s3 yellow books first. So I considering Eve and S.Anis. But they needed those to function. Darn.
Instead of having to look
U gotta see without seeing 
Verily
keripo said label slower
Thats so sad
Well then
Is there any more question
What does the fox say?
Here are the most common sounds they produce: Barks – Short, sharp, and high-pitched, fox barks are used for communication between individuals, especially during mating season or to mark territory. Screams (or “Vixen's Scream”) – A loud, eerie, and drawn-out wailing sound, often mistaken for a person in distress.
Let me triple check on this actually
I'll getup and look in like ~2h if needed
10/10/10 eve 
Kosmiu carrying EN pvp 
It's the same gen, I just used the wrong cubes
So..what's the best Rookie arena comp now? Snow White?
I thought I didn't need 3 quantum cubes on my Mana comp but turned out I did.
Still vesti
SW has delayed burst. So more time to make tech work like slow indom
Also easier to use rosanna on sw 
fml I don't have the new Vesti
F
ig Label just killed both my go-to comps (Scarlet comp & Cinderella comp)
I mean, you can still use them, not a guarantee people will roll/use label for the time being
Wasn't sure if i should run indomvesti, or yesterdays libby thingy, so....went with this
Won every rookie match so, win?
If they were willing to ol and pull for label, chance are it wouldnt make much difference. Scar isnt that hard to beat these days. Aside from scar soda rng
pvp cooked 
this new unit has to be op for pvp right dear lord
My pvp rivals are all thinking that I’m a whale.. i pulled a triple nayuta then triple SWHA and now triple label. MLB every banner so far through sheer luck..

They both use scarlet and cindy comps too so that works out nicely
Wutdahel
This is just wrong....
so im assuming label kills scarlet
You aren't close to a whale until you had 60+ level over the rest of your bracket and every gacha costume available since you started.
jesus
Or at least core+7 every pilgrim 
yeah thats the forever open wallet for nikke whale
dude is 200 level above 
JON NIKKE
whoa whoa technically thats 180 above but yeah thats the whale
my whale is 80 above
even if i was wealthy i wouldnt be a whale in a gacha
you just get rid of the challenge which is the whole point of a game
but if you are wealthy you can because you are wealthy not rich
Everyone in my bracket is close to each other.. let’s see how badly the reshuffle screws that up
u haven't tried a war game where top whale spent around 1 million dollars in a year.
well the 2nd guy is also a whale to my knowledge lol loook at my level 

i need them to reshuffle whales into their own block
like i wanna see battle of the whales
Maybe you were just bricked. 
it sounds like whales are just rich peoples spoiled kids
Arab oil prince.
look at me dad im winning in warfare 
i made it past the group stage a couple of times, still havent won a match after tho 
I’ve made it into champions arena every time ever since i started playing since my bracket are all new players… pretty funny seeing a level 100 commander up against a group of 600s
i only got to champion because this guy kept trying to bump people and i stayed in 5th basically the entire time
so he lowered everyones scores trying to raise his own and thats funny
im just curious if label burst gen is good and if she beats scarlet
Welp, there goes the investment i guess, it's been fun 
my scar was pretty heavily invested too lol
just 1 dupe away from core max
i dont think its that bad chill out?
well..still using it for now, the one below me still too afraid to attack my scarlet for some reason
luck
kept pulling on the banner despite already having her

so..i'll keep it until it breached, then i'll replace her with lib
i dont think i'll pull for her
i dont got resources to build her and besides my wishlist needs something to pull for
you can make a unit have 100% teamwide electric resistance and it still wouldn't make scarlet any less viable 
yeah doesnt scarlet team go off and wipe a whole squad before she can do anything
how good is label guys
and i tought i was lucky 
the only missing unit in my nikkepedia is just arcana...and power
Good morning #pvp-arena
which map is 35-26
good night
Idk I cleared everything

the electric reduction activate at the start of battle, not on burst

so build a slower burst team and they die lololol
yeah, you can do that
or, don't run scarlet into label? 
people starting to use slow cindy to attack that
my scarlet team be losing regardless so zzzzzzzzz
oh i cleared 35-26 so i dont know what it is
is snow white going to get used in pvp champion arena and if she is how/where do i use her?
my current teams
which nikkes want cs% the most?
Ideally I want to burst even faster (between 1.5RL and 2RL)
pretty sure u either get cs for all of them or it doesn't matter
Aside from SW
Hello, I'd like some advice for rookie Arena, this is my current team and my nikkes ordered by power, ty 
Jackal and Noah need more CS than HelmT for the same result.
SW doesn't need CS.
Vesti is complicated. But could put her on same tier as Noah/Jackal on needing CS to be faster.
you're already expecting a lot of cope from landing the timely rapunzel stun from that comp, might aswell just drop rapunzel for something better
alice is a poor choice of B3, your instant nuker close to full invest is ein and helmT, although helmT is single target
maybe run double buff ein on 2RL
Look fine but may misindom
what about lib?
she takes 1RL to land nuke, you've no antinuke, if she's dead before nuke lands, her nuke is without all of her buffs
even assuming you do run with anti nuke on 2RL, opponent has leeway to run 2RL or 3RL noah to catch it
way i see it, stack your CP with units that let you hit early pressure and stick to 2RL or 2.5RL
that'd be RH or liter buffed nayuta and 2.5RL or 2RL team with helm and any invested battery
you could also just run generic 2RL noah alternatively
@swift mango ignore my team and quality. This bursts faster than ordinary 2RL. The team I sent the only one I can use realistically rn. I tried to tweak and see how they do that. I suspect his SW equips Quantum and some CS here and there in other units
Hmm so what would be a good team then? I'm kind of a pvp noob 
Like maybe liter noah Thelm and Ein + something
build up your noah and swha then you can improve the team, until then run CP pad
With a bit of feed and some CS on HelmT you would burst very fast.
Alright, I will try my best. It's a bit let down when I finally find the comp that works against him and he just whales up and boosts his OL and suddenly my team doesn't work anymore xdd. Happened 3 times in last 5 days lol
He has Noah anti nuke. 
Sure hit team is bad but he has anti nuke. 
read what i said earlier, he's using a weak B3, he can have anti nuke but if he's getting p1 locked he can lose to deficit
he has SWHA unbuilt, that would fix a lot of issues
until then he can run w/e on high CP instead
Just use Libby nuke. No point worrying. He would lose harder without Libby anyway. 
and then opponent runs 2RL or 3RL noah and bye bye libby
why not just stack CP and deficit them
i mean you're the one who prefers stacking CP so i shouldn't even be the one suggesting it 
Maybe that was his highest 
additionally his biscuit and noah are 3rd and 4th line
dolless, uninvsted and at 260 synchro
With CP I can go up to ~342k CP
you're saying this because you didn't look at his box
Maybe auto team and burst with helm. 
that's better, you can gap until 289k
ye prolly better approach
I'll try my midhara
She has a joke ol line, 4 atk 3 crit
Ok thank yall for the advices 
where's privaty
you're at least running 1 team with privaty aren't you 

Let the man win CA for once

no he has to spread the privaty propaganda
Label reading smut turns her into tryndamere
1.5RL privaty stun 
Wait still overspec privaty
Whats the first impressions for the new hottie? From what I can see skipable right?
She's like a noah
can I get some spvp def ideas?
i won't win
There's teams listed on pins
I wonder what new variations we can do with Label 
@tropic summit brain puke version 4
She is a strong burst 1 buffer that's also a tanky defender with mag RL burst gen outside of her elec anti niche. She should worth the pull if you do CA
T1 copium yolo
T2 ok, that's less of a salad
T3 nobrainer
T4 ballsy
T5 what in the world
Put Midhara p5 at least
Just use Noir instead of scar tbh
how to make t1 better
nah man scar kill self dies faster than emma prob
noise doko
i was going to ask that too
back to the kitchen then
but if rapun some how live it be great profit
Hmm not bad
But she doesn't have the burst gen so your team 3rl anyway even if she ded
Nah I am stuck at 6-10, gonna skip this one. Need to save a bit 👍
At the last CA, enemy Sw instantly erase my p5 mihara. Would putting mihara p5 be still valid?
Need time to spread chain.
didnt know
And she burst instead of Cindy 
my mihara got off 1 burst in like
the entire time she's existed when i ran this comp
which would be 1 out of 10+++ ca seasons
for noise noah SWole Sbs rumani
SWole died I think its cause rosanna
You are lucky but 1 time is bad enough
just need to win with rest of the comps
but sbs hp enough for noah burst
ye that's about normal, water code shouldn't survive rosanna
Just put your Spa in then auto 2 teams. You just need to win 3 to win a match. 
even my core7 HelmT doesnt so yeah
ele weak increases dmg too much to tank it even on full hp on most cases
you'd need to land a noise or moran b1 in time to possibly prevent 1hitko on water code
doubt possible with rosanna usually
alternateively break rosanna cloak with SWHA or similar splashers, although you can't break it if she's jackal linked
correct, you'd need CS% advantage
I do
wdym?
Helm burst instead of SWHA? right
situational
in that team whoever designed them wants you to get lifesteal over snipe or nuke pressure, which is reasonable as most opponents will try to noah biscuit against it
@tropic summit
he's using vestiTU and SWHA offburst
I don't think SW extra hit can break concealment. 
Scarlet counter didn't, no reason SW does.
I like how scar is useless now
same for cindy (likely)
Is there something wrong with these teams? Bro has no scarlet or noah and is beating me even after hitting 301 spike and he's 15 levels behind 
T1 gud
T2 rip salad, gud
T3 lappy in p5 if linked, you wanna prevent SG buttr4ping mana, although rosanna will dispel her if she's 2nd linked unit and you lose revive
T4 unoriginal, no emma, boring... but ok
T5 i've no idea
can uh.. I get some help on a 3rd team for def
that is not scarlet? Label is disabling scar I heard
T2 and T3 are weak to multiple things, T1 overcommited with biscuit he's skipping it 100%
lappi not linked for t3, sg team can rip mana and vesti but cant splash blanc and laplace end up living to burst anyway prob
make a nayuta team and remove 1 clip RL from T1 for a flex clip SG burst gen tier battery
you'll misindom on jackal unless lappy gets hit
that's fine sg team and have fun killing jackal
if you've side advantage yes, else only jackal left alive
50/50 ill take it
but who cares it's CA, don't bother assuming all scenarios 
throw a dice and roll with it
that's how it goes
which is why i considered noise vs rapun and went rapun initially
but i'll trust rail wisdom today
it could work, huge gamble, i'd prefer noise but you're free to test it out who knows
nah trust your instincts, CA rewards the most weird sh*t
i just feel bay would have more synergy with noise no?
by far, rapun heal won't do much, noise will give you extra instant hp, dot heal and DR
rapun is just extreme gamba
how do I make a nayuta team?
cindy
like this?
Ig...
what?
Is it even possible to 2rl Cindy without over investing?
my first 2 team is like this so idk how to make a 3rd
@spiral onyx im getting slower than mana
like every team is just overlapping noah and vesti and things...
.2 base isntead of .25

Hold on Cinderella team can hit 2rl with laplaceT for some reason?
dayum
I like her too
Run full team on calc
But, maybe
Laplace has amazing burst gen
Calcs are on pins (I default to Nikke deck)

"Laplace has amazing burst gen"
When she has favorite item*
Using Cindy makes my team power go to spaghetti
Because she only works with a select few nikke
And liberalio isnt good
Idk wtf to use for nukes tbh
nayuta flex helmtvestiTU SWHA/flex B1 buffer
No good? 
😭 THEY ARE USEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
distribute your unit and use flex better
Holy burst gen
vestiTU, laplaceT, SWHA, helmT, centi, emilia, trina, drakeT
these are going to be ur best friends to flex positions with
2 of them will be inevitably used as either indom or offburst in a noah/moran team
rest make a nayuta 2RL or 2.5RL (2RL can be annoying even against noah 2RL and can prevent indom as you hit jackal ele weak)
trina is usable without scar?
How's this

you can get extra synergy if you use her with moran
but can fit her anywhere you need burst gen
so rosanna is confirmed to remove label's buff?
change T2 main B3, too abusable
T3 is overcommitted, you don't need SWHA
Well idk wtf to use for b3
SWHA
does this even work
which you're using for nothing in T3
jackal vestiTU flex blanc centi, flex can be clip SG burst gen to be already sufficient for 2RL
this is 2RL but idk
@quartz rover move your SWHA from indom to your bay biscuit team, as for lib use her where you need padding or clip SG burst gen, else to the bench when defending
Don't cut the gen.... Well, ig is 2 RL
what cit the gen
May I request assistance for CA teams?
drake was an example, use w/e you got built
She's the most built clip sg
try building them yourself this time, time to learn sorter
I can slap liberalio in there
Units like Heavy Snow, Emilia and Vesti are preferred to go on Blanc/Noah teams when used as main damage dealers, since their focus is to survive while they shoot
does this work or maybe biscuit > rh?
Besti is on t1
I'm merely explaining
with biscuit you're 3RL, dead
posted should be correct now
what
T3 keep nayuta in p1, no need for noise, use better flex B1
Is there an exact percentage in what the lightning bolt is?
My vesti does have quite a bit of cs ol
I do have these atm but wanted to improve them if possible.
cuz you removed RH, single cycle burst that team loses all of it's logic 
there's no other B1 in mind
rosanna wont work unless u want soda
rapunzel and siren maybe too low cp
how is siren low CP... that's concerning 
low burst gen
Also, should I level up Rosanna's burst to 7? She is 7/7/4. I do have resources to drop to upgrade Moran and Noise.
Found this
My bad
oh that's what you mean, slot in label then? actually good synergy to protect ur water code from elec abuse
and B1 buffer
i mean RH is also fine if you don't wanna go the extra mile
god dam I spend so much time for this goofy ahh ahh spvp that might just get cracked
rh stays in t2?
Is the way I see if my team is 2rl by slapping them vs someone 2rl in rookie?
@hybrid fox RH variant
10 PULLS
why that's not me
and I got label
Rail, good morning
I forgot but skill 2 max
Was this made in that nikke PVP site?
What should team 3 be?
maybe
Noahless 
you seen this already?
#pvp-arena message
good morin'n either way, working force
So Label is good?
she wrecks electric units esp. scar
Yeah from her kit that was clear. Are there that many Electric PVP units? She's only going to be good against 1 team.
Man, the timing is awful for me. I just got scarlet last month and I've been building her ever since and she's been carrying my second team in SP arena and now label is gonna destroy me most likely.
you can use her on attack, just bench her on defense
scar trina rh
scar trina ros
scar blanc rh
scar soda trina
still retain usage on attack
rosy can clear the debuff
SWole can pierce label's thing too
So time to retire this team then.
Balanced 
that's not the problem with that team, it's the fact label can open up a noah or a bay or an indom you'd have needed using against it

Yeah i think i'll do that. I was working on my scarlet and trina for defense but i probably need to remove them. I still got SWHA. I think i'll keep building her so she takes scarlet's place.
ye that team can go bayonara
oh some CN dude say rosanna can cut label 
So then I guess going a nayuta team
@hollow lagoon bet u can't guess who this is
I got some label test vid
@marble saddle
Mermaid Helm

hey folks, i know this is a pvp channel but can i ask about strategy against a hard boss?
Thanks @tropic summit
can I even post link here
ofc
What about this defense team? Also why isn't the box highlighted?
because you're slow af
u
are not going to burst
that team is 99% to 4RL, meaning you're essentially slower than 4RL
Well I think I've spent all my burst genners in other teams. Who are my choices?
hope this helps u guys cuz I am dumb in spvp
Till S30, trust
Rumani not fast enough
doesn't label need to burst in order for the damage reduction to be activated?
I have these 2
both of these videos showed that label died before bursting
oh nvm, it's an affect that activates from the start
Is she sss PvP
IS THAT A COCKROACH WHEN U ENTER LABEL'S EVENT
If this is Label, then all she does is make Scar into an E unit on defense
does having rosanna on the team prevent ur scarlet from being useless tho? rosanna can remove label's buff?
yeah I reread the skill
rosanna dispells buff from the 2 highest atk% units, meaning the other 3 units still retain dmg reduction
How does label actually performs in PvP ?
Alright where are the cn players placing label into ca comps 
Does she not just reapply it. Like constantly?
just once
but dang if that's all she reduces, I'm disappointed
OMG this color role is so atrocious
really? so it cant be dispelled?
So then it means rosanna will be useless as a countermeasure
How does label actually perform in PvP ?
Ask the masters
Hm, ok, so I wasn't hallucinating
@spiral onyx
well at least it can kill the 2 highest attack which is useful in most cases unless its like cindy that is the one that is nuking
Why didnt anyone tell me you can lock a line with 2 shards and it stays locked
I just need to find out where the cn cooks are since I bet every cn player in our ca is going to have a label cook already 
I know
what
it says at the start of the battle activates once per battle?
nga
no it means that the opponent only needs to adapt
SURELY thats 2rl
denies fast scar/cindy teams on attack, bypassable when used on defense
Keripo s guildie
So meta on atk, not meta on def, meta on ca ?
CA is RNG... you've 1 chance out of 5 she meets a scar or cindy fast teams, cindy is generally used as slower variant so only realistically scar soda or scar ros
Why we can't never say meta on def
as if Noah/Blanc weren't bypassable
u might want biscuit with label
hard to call her meta on attack too because attack has got so many tools you could heal starvation in africa
at least they still serve a purpose, her kit is literally "pls hit me, here have a buff and lol if you're not elec cya"
im just thinking to put scarlet and rosanna together in CA so scarlet is still useful?
Time to see if my vesti has enough cs to be 2rl
So any advise regrading my two existing defense teams?
check. the. pins.
stop asking, get cookin' 
you're not a newbie anymore
y not replace liberalio with helm T?
Js go vesti team and noah team
rosanna still useful, scarlet still won't hit for much on the other 3 units, bypassable by defender units
Because I'm testing if a defense team is 2rl
Can the pvpers see if I bursted fast enough 
the i will put label with shotgun so shotgun wont get reflected to death by scarlet?
SGs still die very quickly to s2
More like 1.5
What
oo S2 doesn count as damage from electric unit?
Yes I am a newbie. There is a reason why I am asking. I don't really understand this stuff, and prefer to ask those who know. And I don't have the time to dedicate to learning the ins and outs of this content.
oh dam if s2 doesnt count as electric unit attack then its pointless
nga .com is cn
I checked the Vesti teams possibilities and am already using some of the nikke in it.
we've been teaching you stuff for months, the least you could do is put minimal effort to improve yourself
this is not because we don't want to help you, but you sound just straight up lazy
won't motivate people in helping you further if you don't put some effort yourself
outside of burst priority and getting targeted priority, is there any other benefits to being on the left side
I am just asking if the teams I am showing you are good and advise for imrovement. Not fresh cook. And while I am appreciative of your efforts to teach, I just don't have the time to dedicate. At most I can recycle what I had and ask for improvements.
I did say something similar before!
2RL vs 2RL, you did, but you indommed lib, you might wanna fix HP on vestiTU to be picked for indom instead
Ooo 
I am dumb too
Sorter - you fix 
sorter?
@haughty mortar build those 3 teams then share them here and we'll help you
oh
ya kinda gotta realize, our time are valuable too lel
I shared 2
I cba to cook people teams all the time either 😄
u guys speak a differnt language
where's 3rd #pvp-arena message
Which I know.
oh you editted ok
waitin' on the 3rd then
if it's just scrapped together it won't count, so put effort 
@tropic summit pareton when?
outside of burst priority and getting targeted priority, is there any other benefits to putting units on the left side(p1-p2) or are they reserved for tanky non B3 characters
some day I imagine that would be called against me
I am not sure what I can swap due to Label. I only have this going
bad team try again 
use your main B3s and batteries better
and check pins for ideas
but I try to think myself sometime
I noticed that, how do I fix the hp exactly?
Lib already has a vigor cube
You guys are all too kind.
Sorter, just google it if you need a quick answer.
I may just do that LAWLZ
pick a different flex than lib that allows vestiTU to get indom
I can always raise lib's doll
the only thing u can slot in this to reach approporiate2-2.5 rl speed is swha or helm and u got no defences to allow u keep up the pressure
ye that works
I am already using both in the other teams.
these exist too and they're newbie friendly
#pvp-arena message
Burst gen cal no need coz I am using that still bugged nikke deck site
it's one thing lacking knowledge or being unfamiliar with things, it's another asking for help since months, being taught things and just being lazy to sort their own stuff on their own 
This too
its kinda not so useful now because the old teams are weak (and those electric teams are also cooked up) and then the rest easily conflicts
at least I tried to make some teams that could stop the arses getting on me
You have everything already, so whats next? 
do it for him 
that pin expects people to know they can't use 2 same units in the same team
@tropic summit almost forgot to say
after my scounting work I realize Label easily dies if she's p1 COMPARED to noise
how abt that
yes you'll want situationally to give her a biscuit
she feeds afterall
It's not like I am not getting what you're throwing, but as I said I don't really have much time during the day. Anyway. I will see what I can do and see what sticks.
@tropic summit do i update my defense to this piece of work 
?
step by step sorter, you don't need to build 3 teams from scratch, take 5 minutes of your time to check ur units against pinned teams and use whatever is good invested for a flex T3 that is also at least speedy
I got stuck in thinking a 3rd team
will noise switch with label work IF this fails some how
oh wait i cant do trina in that team
OK, fixed the hp I think
But 3RL is still slow
then there's a next question
if I slot in bsicuit into whoever, its 2.5RL isn't that bad for a def?
add CS% to vestiTU, siren in p2 is vulnerable if unlinked
I am rockless, and am currently investing in SW for pve
your vestiTU is 4-8%CS no?
I don't think she has any such lines
Well bro, if you don't put in the effort, you wouldn't be deserved to get the W or anywhere you think you should be at.
you've only 1CS%, is it at least 4%?
It's totally not bugged for anyone basically only seems like it's your device/browser - I'd say user error :p
regardless that team Cp is probably low, you've 2 utilities and 1 half ass-invested unit, siren and nayuta carrying your weight
scar is still ok if + rosy?
Well, the doll raising of lib just made her curb stomp snow white 
CS%? I don't see any Charge Speed here
nah that scarlet exist to self drain and die, p1 and no trina
It's the same for me, my PC died for a week and I am focusing on my work and other stuffs, so I didnt do well for my last SR and CA.
no, only 2 units get dispelled
your browser probably blocking something
I am using brave
noscript or adblocker or you're using edge 
i'm using edge
have you tried it on another browser?
Yes no script prolly on coz too much shit online
it could be a brave browser issue
Hey rail, its impossible to see who got indom here 
bit harsh to blame @lusty gull if it's literally your device/browser causing the issue 😛
Could even be an isp thing
Is label better than bay?
No
@lusty gull its not you its me, i'm the problem, i'm the cursed one 
Apparently script block is off
you need to look at the icons below the char, check for the icon that gives indom
you can check the icon for indom via shooting range
Check out guitarrock stream, he experimented on Label
Im surprised my team shredded them before Noah burst
The issue is that I have to refresh multiple times for certain characters to show
experimented on label? 😮
The power of vesti
label good nuff to replace rumani blanc on slow cindy? liks @placid bloom redicted?
experimented team on Label haha
I got a black atk line on my vesti while fishing for higher cs
All I can say is I am a driver not a mechanic.
Where does Label fit on a team?
In bed
Right now the issue is she would get herself stunned when her shield is broken, but her purpose is to shield, so its very niche.
when attacking, as B1 flex to get your elec resistance and without needing noah/bay or DR to survive
Can it?
rail, do I just cope for 2.5RL then?
I mean refreshing isn't an issue. All I am saying is it can't just be my browser.
hmmm that's okish, if you got nothin' else it will do


bad idea? u are cp gapped
u counter them but u might flip over from low cp
So that T3 I shared is bad?
Haha yea I know that I'm CP gapped is label powerful enough?
worst case ur noah might just die
U must keep it within 15.4% cp gap
you need to improve its speed and distribute CP better
ur label will die 99%, rumani will then burst
Yea it's not a hard rule tho
but if railtracer talks about speed then its prob too slow
Just do it bro then record to see your loss
then that means ur unprotected Noah will die
heheheh
So basically gotta demolish the other 2 teams and swap around
am I correct?
yep you fixed her, gj 
noah is not THAT tough without her burst 
not demolish, look at pins, look at what you got, assemble 3 teams that are 2RL or 2.5RL and well distributed CP
avoid using scar/cindy on 2RL
I spent so long for spvp haiyaah
U asked "can I', but you already exceed by 20%+ gap
Indom vesti is so stupid, yet its my greatest pleasure to be able to do
one of the best no brainer teams indeed
Well even this is just 3RL which is bad
where's your quantums
Use moran+bay
that is true
Don't have Bay
then check again
Moran+label then
click on the box in the upper corner of the nikke icon
add quantum cube
(it's assumed lvl 7)
Lol
Don't have Label, not pulling
you gotta bench lib for a stronger burst gen flex then
or bench biscuit viceversa and move noah to p5
So Noah goes to 5 regardless?
noah in p2 is vulnerable to early pressure unless she's SR15 on tempering
you put her p5 because you drastically reduce early damage on her
p1 and p2 are exposed to general splash
p3 to emilia and vestiTU splash
So you are looking for a good def , show your def what rank are u now in sp?
I am 2nd
Show ur current def
As for def it's this and I am trying to modify my 3rd team as Scar got shredded. #pvp-arena message
nighty night, I hope my def stays as long as possible
@haughty mortar
put more effort next try, although i appreciate you at least tried
run these either way, they're taken from your #pvp-arena message
for T1 and T3 helmT use vestiTU where you've the most CP
p.s. where would you use jackal to fix and improve speed and threat in the teams you'll sub helmT for vestiTU?
hint 1: jackal siren?
hint 2: make an indom?
solution (don't open until you tried): ||jackal vestiTU lib(flex) blanc trina||
any thoughts on the new unit?
I don't recommend noise with blanc , try idk other dps scarlet black/Vesti TU to get the indom
dont think i really understood the vid
water code survives scarlet nuke
situational against elec
all you need to know is that essentially scarlet and cindy 2RL got nerfed
(on defense)
1 copy is good?
if f2p sure
Rail-chan
sh*it it's alive 
ping him and he may appear

why 2RL
in particular
her 5s?
Iirc he had no maid anchor until now
I am very sad caught him in 4k
So thoughts on label so far?
what is the problem ?
And if you have trina you can use scarlet/emilia/rapu/trina/laplace treasure.
can skip, there's plenty of tools for attacking
alternatively, get her to have 1 more tool to deal with scar/cindy
would, but I dont like smelly 
nothing i'm just creating chaos
“Tools” refers to units yes? Or no?
, some one else blamed you for something tho
ye units
wtf i lose
for what ?
will i win
why you doin' this 
im bullied
50 min and 3 attacks
no i mean scar mirror but ok i appreciate the context 
how to beat the anis team above with scar??
you don't use scar, that team wants to stall scar
noah + biscuit
ok...
fortunately it's just the 0,1%
idk man i create chaos it seems to be working
think this is the first time ever that i hear "the app is bugged"
which app?
which team?
there are only rh, scarlet and sanis here but all of them are countered by noah biscuit
oh it's another account of yours?
CN
is RH or liter available?
yes
you need to be lethal on rapunzel
scar blanc rh centi jackal
or
scar blanc liter centi jackal
quantum on jackal, scarlet linked, you're kicked to 2RL via feed
i've no sleepin' schedule, i sleep when i'm not in pain nowdays 
Ugh if there wasn't a deficit I'd have this guys number. probably
you could try to hit for ele weak on their B3
if you remove vestITU early, they'll have less DPS to deal with you
noah biscuit swha flex jackal, pad it out as much as you can
once both shields are down, your SWHA should be 1shotting vestiTU and dropping low helmt and emi, you still need to survive the afterward

next step, win CN CA
there are only 2 whales in my bracket
swha being?
snow white
I do have trina, but Scar trina is ded on def coz of Label
Can't wait for CA to turn into 5 different units that completely block each element 
but then you miss the order and elec tries to block wind 

RNG diffed 
Appreciate this! Also, which of the two Helm teams?
Oh ok gotchu
And I AM to use VestiTU? You saying she is good enough to be used atm?
what did you build her for 
Investments wise
surely not to gather dust in a corner
Tower? And maybe some PVE level?
She does look lovely with those cobwebs that have been forming

There are 2 Libbys too
So swap Jack in for either lib or Lap in either team
Not comfy with that T3 CP doe.
It is 2026 and pve people still tell others to invest in Quantum cube for pvp
what if i use Trina to buff Moran instead of Scarlet 
how is label vs cindy or a summer anis + hood team
or label just really here to counter scarlet lmao
What if people don't pull label expecting everyone to stop using scarlet, resulting in scarlet still being usable
would it be better to just wishlist the new unit?
We will get Label
Is a matter of sooner or later
But
We've had Noah since release day
I got her 2 weeks ago 
In pool*
we are still not sure about that @bleak shale
most of the time, yes
Does label block the entirety of a 2RL cindy nuke?
should block 2rl cindy, think it was 2.5rl~3rl cindy not blocked
pretty much can still run scar for now i think but id expect labels being used to break defenses using scar at some point in future
the big deal is really it makes it a lot easier to deal with scar so u can use noah for a diff team
more new units for lazy people
you can't defend since cindy banner unless heavy cp penalty
but you can buy more attacks which works just as well
I use scar rosa on defense, I wonder how label affects that
not much, there are many options to attack that team, and i don't know why people would use label to hit scarlet there, probably add a bit more for 2RL nayuta or some comp with 3attackers
you can also tank rosanna snipe with noise b1 and for other teams you can just tank scarlet nuke (at high sync) because trina alone is not enough to wipe
i only pull for limited/pilgrim units and pray i get normal units from WL
yeah, slow cindy isn't countered by label; in exchange, slow cindy is countered by a lot of other things
there are options and if you play pvp you already have them, now label is easier to use for people that don't play pvp but the cp deficit is still a thing if you don't build your units
yeah, not everyone can afford to change their defense team setups right away, so label has a lot of value on offense
i hate label as a character and unit, my speed scar team is weaker against her unless my team can tank the enemy dps
how much burst gen does label have ?
its posted, its regular AR * s2
aka .2 base
so lower than mana, i will update, maybe tomorrow
please do because I need to make CA teams and considering to run her 
Any meta sp deff for this patch?
My sp deff kinda outdate
Since not use snowwhite and nayuta
Still old
Scarlet fast burst
Blanc ventitu
Noah anis summer
Kinda miracle i not being attack for almost 2 month 😂
basically drunklet in def is dead
could try running blanc sw then noah vestitu or blanc vesti noah swha
please, how do I deal with this?
my attack teams were fine for a while until hhe put SW in T1 and put cindy at p1 in T2
box -> #pvp-arena message
so label worth to use in CA?
@hollow lagoon 
no
random unit, you can just increase your scarlet counter by 1 team (now 2 with noah) but your teams will be weaker against other comps unless you waste biscuit or something
Anyone can help?
Scar has so many counters in CA atm
I smell cp penalty
yes and +1 as unit/team doesn't change much
i was summoned
Sg, 2rl noah, 2rl bay, label, nero moran
I just wanted to say hi
@umbral belfry took all my rocks today
depends on the comp, only noah teams are true counter, just because is anti -nuke
You have 2 minutes to send me the source,sir. 
for bay teams is more about cs check, she is slower than noah so you can just land the nuke before the shared dmg
I accept dm's too
uhhhhhhh
I hope its not where i think it is from
Nayu sg being a counter to scar is upsetting
Im going to bla bla,take good care of yourself yall
i have spicier
I'm probably gonna use her instead of blanc in my cindy team
I catched more
the first one daaaaa

I wished ppl made more romantic Bay fan arts too
@hollow lagoon Found it
Ye:D
What’s a good counter to this?
idk but it would be fun i guess
well my bay is only 7 on the thing
Allthough there were not much of art i could find i accidently refreshed the page too,i need to probably look at it again later. @hollow lagoon Thanks,my collection is getting bigger
Skills?
ye
Yeah poor scarlet against that
donno if good but
we'll see
please elp-elp ❤️
Why is nayuta p2 and not p1 in SG teams?
Generally you want your p1 unit to die so you get more burst Gen from rossanna passive


Rumani will taunt when you burst so p1 or p5 is generally preferable.
Have built Heavy Snow?
yeah

Should I put rumani p1 then? I think bay wants cover for her burst?
She's treasured
you gonna be bursting with bisc? 
Depends how fast you burst. If your bay gets stunned, biscuit will burst instead. Your charge speed determines if you'll burst fast enough to not care about that
The team is 2rl I believe
Replace Scarlet alt with Snow then.... Bruh, why you put RH where you did 
Helm has like 13%, biscuit has around 3
it was bait for siren @keen vapor 
Use this against Cindy
Don't
how many ammo has Scarlet
drunk one? 53
2rl isnt equal across. Depending on the frame your b2 goes off, either lm will stun before or not. Only cs ol can change that, but keep in mind swha isnt affected by cs.
You'd have to calculate it to know if it avoids stun.
Generally b2 often still get stunned in most teams
nooooooooo
What stun?
Lm stun
Siren
how much ammo siren has? or what
You may get b2 stunned
Intended for Trash Doves
or how much HIS scarlet has?
If siren targets p1 then rumani p1 would be best, right?
rumani used in t3
I now realized its not ideal bc biscuit is p5 now
I can try running the team vs siren and see if rumani gets stunned?
Jackal will be 
put jackal in t3? or put jackal in your suggested team?
I mean, that works too
But meant on Snow team
Really either works
And back at the 1 spot, not for long maybe, still, it's the principle of it :p
Yeah, siren stuns p1 before b2 
If u have 11 cs on either rumani or bay it would be fast enough for b2 to go before siren stun
thanks I'll try, but rumani is only b1 in snow team sooo I guess I put jackal in t3 instead of rumani
.....
do you watch the battles?
no I thought it would work and wasn't recording this time
Why only one B1 will be a problem
because my question was about rumani that is taken for t3
which is only b1 in your suggested snow team
thats why I need someone else for t3 (t3 did win)
I see
Well, calc doesn't has a function to put alternative options
I'm sniping Biscuit 
Prob put helm in p5
Better than losing to dude sirening bay then nuking
P5 Bay?
Oh ok
I decide to take a break from work and THIS is the first thing I see?!
Not that I am complaining. Surprised it hasn't been taken down
I'm calling the mods
What's a good Summer Anis is stall team?
Chihi and NGV are busy 
The answer is no 
Why
Imagine SU's mod is deleting SU's own game art
Been ages since Summer Anis had got enough firepower 
Stole this ty
@zinc lion can you tell me something? The rule applies to #questions only or....
you mean #guidelines ?
cuz yes it's for the entire server
no exceptions
The one about that kind of media
i'm not quite sure to understand what " media " are you talking about, could you clarify please ?
The official assets who are questionable
L
E
W
D
Spicy
Spicy is the word I was searching for 
This in and of itself is BS. If that is true, then SU should just stop making them?
One thing is SU game and another public discord server 
...............
If SU official art will have to be removed then SU should just NOT have such art. And just be a kids' game for 12 y/os
It depend of the media itself, What's allowed in NIKKE might not be allowed on Discord, and being a Discord server we have to abide by Discord rules so some medias from NIKKE are restricted in NIKKE Official, it's the same for many games like in Azur Lane
🙁
exactly
Well, Discord can...................
The next word started with S 

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