pvp-arena

[shell hazel]

bro I had 4 rocks and I rolled my xlud

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

was this

became this

[hollow lagoon]

def cheated rocks

[shell hazel]

where was this luck when I rolled my SW?

[hollow lagoon]

better than my xlud already

[tropic summit]

@hollow lagoon @shell hazel new global rank 1 believed in the rosanna

[hollow lagoon]

and it took me 30

off burst bready?

[shell hazel]

my t1 is extreme cope if I could actually have an alt team 1 I'd do... something

[tropic summit]

crazy

also he did QTE with SWHA

[shell hazel]

I tried various options for team 1 but I can't make it really doable with much else

[hollow lagoon]

oh so u discovered switcing to xlud burst is more damage gain than mihara burst

i was going to verify that

[shell hazel]

it totally wasn't when all she had was charge speed and def

it was when she actually had some ele and ammo

[hollow lagoon]

optimal noah rolls

[shell hazel]

before she was just there to do the qte she did like 100M the whole fight

[hollow lagoon]

i'm i even in the 3% still?

[shell hazel]

now she actually does a bit

I think we're easy 3% this raid is quite hard compared to normal ones

[hollow lagoon]

right i forgot i got 19b

[shell hazel]

when 20?

[hollow lagoon]

malded to 11pm even tho i sleep at 9 usually

[shell hazel]

[hollow lagoon]

lost my chance when i spent my union chips on tempura to 8 it to make @tropic summit proud

let me check what sync is the big whale now

@shell hazel 483?

he saving crates

gonna witness a 501 hippo when new chapter drops

[shell hazel]

no he's not he's 486

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

I'm 483 I can sync to 486, booba whale already 486 and skill issued on chap 32 still

zant give me a better team 1 to run than my cope team 1, without stealing pieces from the other teams

[hollow lagoon]

486 on 32 is cringe u can brute force it, i cleared 32-32 at 481 on mobile

tried raven over alice?

[shell hazel]

my raven unbuilt

one issue I have is that I need to have enough damage to kill the tentacle thing that spawns before it AOE me lol

[placid bloom]

Without Miranda you don’t have good way to spread water unit tbh

[hollow lagoon]

oh u stopped with the bull shit redhood b1 mald i knew u wisen up eventually

[placid bloom]

So you are stuck

[shell hazel]

I let the results do the talking

if I do more overall damage with alt comps then I use those instead

[tropic summit]

pvp main curse

[hollow lagoon]

where's ur delta ninja

[shell hazel]

I do have her (but unbuilt)

[hollow lagoon]

u can run my comp then

[shell hazel]

which was?

[shell hazel]

on my shopping list at least

[hollow lagoon]

i tried miranda i lose damage

[shell hazel]

I'll still build her it's an extra option

but we need treasure details too

[hollow lagoon]

i gave volyme a sr-5 now i'm dool mat dry again

[shell hazel]

hmm I know she is good with crown for the hp proc, what does she do here?

mine still on cope SR-0 😄

I was considering the same for s.elegg tbh

[placid bloom]

She is just dmg taken

[hollow lagoon]

damage taken skill 1 and heal cuz cindy is defender

so less maldy

[placid bloom]

But it’s not high amount

[hollow lagoon]

i use a invested 7/7/7 2 ele phantom in same slot and end up with same numbers but maldier

[shell hazel]

do I need to give delta ninja any skill levels?

[placid bloom]

At low core that team will do less than off burst B3

Not worth using Delta to buff low core neutral

[hollow lagoon]

only skill 1 but ur better off investing selegg

[shell hazel]

I can check it, unsure if my quency is good enough to kill tentacle thing tbh she has no ele at all

[hollow lagoon]

what tetacle thing

[placid bloom]

Nah not worth

[hollow lagoon]

my qeq had 3 ele no atk it does the job

[placid bloom]

You cannot break with just QEQ Cinderella without same core

[hollow lagoon]

i done it

on a way weaker account

idk whar ur talking about

[placid bloom]

[hollow lagoon]

mlb cindy and no dube qeq

[placid bloom]

With no ele?

[hollow lagoon]

i didnt even check the rolls

i only see 3 piece ol or something level 0 gear

u think he gonna have black line ele lol?

[placid bloom]

My QEQ do less than Cinderella

[hollow lagoon]

mine too

[placid bloom]

Even with 50 ele

[hollow lagoon]

tis normal

i have more than 50 ele still lower

its okay

damage is damage

i take my 2.6

@shell hazel prob ada for that slot

atk buff + life steal

over delta ninja anyhow

but both cindy and qeq prefer damage taken

and attack damage up

which is why they are in the same team

and under bade

[shell hazel]

so no with delta it's less haha

1.5 ;9

I can try ada there

[hollow lagoon]

for me with delta some mechanics i can ignore

which results in my damage

but my delta is invested 9/5/4

[placid bloom]

problem is Delta dmg taken is even lower than XLud

and her personal damage is no good

if you are not buffing very strong B3 it's always damage loss

[hollow lagoon]

its not about strength of the b3

its about what buffs/debuffs the b3s like

[placid bloom]

there is barely any mechanic to ignore

[hollow lagoon]

being able to shoot thru ziz blast and not is slight difference i'm willing to take

[placid bloom]

it's like 2 times the entire fight and it's barely 1 second each

I just tank 1-2 tick and cover the last tick

[hollow lagoon]

i tried enough combinations, i need my mihra level b3 off burst to beat it

and my mihara is on another team

so i'm left with?????

i could try ada bit neither unit prefers attack up

[placid bloom]

Cinderella XDiesel with QEQ off burst

[hollow lagoon]

xdiesel is worse

[shell hazel]

I think I tried that lmao but couldn't make it work

I tried a bunch of things. Ada version better btw but it's still ballpark and maldy

[placid bloom]

I am using Mihara, my Diesel is unusable

[hollow lagoon]

bade buff set and xdiesel is the very defination of over dilution

[placid bloom]

[shell hazel]

if I could sneak another cindy burst in for that it might do about the same as my alice one lol

possible I think with some mald, it might do a tiny bit more but we're talking 50-100M max

[hollow lagoon]

ue qeq not invested enuff

[placid bloom]

well I am also using Mermaid on that team instead of Rouge

[hollow lagoon]

is what i feel

[shell hazel]

my qeq rolled no ele and I have 0 rocks :9

[placid bloom]

[hollow lagoon]

so ur qeq is atleast OL

[shell hazel]

so yep 100% not invested enough but not much I can do

yes she has no OL but no doll levels

and 4/4/4 skills

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/honest-word-its-honest-work-it-aint-much-it-aint-much-but-its-honest-work-gif-13763573

[hollow lagoon]

look at that higher attack than mine better already

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/there-aint-much-man-alex-melton-beer-never-broke-my-heart-song-theres-nothing-much-theres-not-a-lot-gif-26983609

[hollow lagoon]

qeq is my first hand ful of b3 when i started this game

when every person on planet was crying about water i was like, tf u people talking about water goes brrrrrrrr

oh loves younger me

didnt even know burst gen is a thing

[hollow lagoon]

7/10/9 is mine, skill 2 is bulk of her dps

but idk if she's worth a invest in current meta

but @tropic summit and @swift mango know i love SMGs

[unique mountain]

#1314995356068483152 message

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-gun-rico-gunslinger-girl-gif-13064966

[tropic summit]

water was kinda mid until things happened

things like helmt, sdoro and now swolSW

[hollow lagoon]

now electric is the weird mutant one

[unique mountain]

Yea helmT into sdoro into swole white is some crazy power creep

[tropic summit]

the irony idd

[unique mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/cinderella-cinderella-nikke-nikke-goddess-of-victory-nikke-goddess-of-victory-cinderella-nikke-cinderella-gif-2969242739511305659

[hollow lagoon]

i should save up for my eventual isabel OL

[hollow lagoon]

she got power crept so hard

sw kit should been what cindy does

[unique mountain]

99% of people OL isabel arcana just before that gets kicked out of elec sr

[hollow lagoon]

i dont see it happening

electric is full of cope

[unique mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/let-it-ride-let-it-ride-diem-gif-13460879079669063039

[hollow lagoon]

literal runs on true damage gimmick

do we have a electric b1?

we do shiet its rouge

i was like gonna lib sbs maid duo again prob need electric b1

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit @shell hazel

prob be good in pvp

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

that's a war crime

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

@hollow lagoon @shell hazel my non pve ass did a thing

improved from ultra copium to kinda copium

sdoro and swol white carrying my sorry ass

[hollow lagoon]

naga O.ooo

[tropic summit]

tiga in 2026...

[cedar sorrel]

Im not the one to judge or anything but it is quite funny how ur anchor is like core whatever and mast isnt even lbd yet

[tropic summit]

mast was actually from selector

several months she's wishlisted and never came, just like rouge

[gritty ridge]

Can you remake this, but just the first few seconds

[tropic summit]

[gritty ridge]

Btw rail, you did more dmg than me congrats

I was 9.6 bil

Also I finally cleared story mode

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/yay-yeah-happy-dance-gif-18266119187889292563

[gritty ridge]

I got over my skill issue of the 3 part blackscreen

Idk if it was rrh or mmast tho but somebody kept hitting the white circles

[tropic summit]

i'm only doing those with SMGs/ARs/SRs

any splash is kinda risky

[gritty ridge]

Lemme do it with my sg

[tropic summit]

oh that works too

although you've tove with SG so u can do it with her too

[radiant coral]

Time to send you back to bed gramps…

[shell hazel]

try unbuilt s.elegg 7/1/1 instead of RH, and just leave her there buffing the water dps

should do more than RH does here

amps your water dps

volume instead of dkw for lib sbs did more for me as well

[gritty ridge]

You guys are silly

Letting your sbs outdamage bready

[shell hazel]

my bready is in the bready bin mate

[gritty ridge]

Does rail have t.miranda

[cedar sorrel]

Danggg hahaha

[sinful vortex]

can anyone help make counter teams

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel

[tropic summit]

can reuse most of the nikke i see here i think, do you mind confirming if you've biscuit though?

[sinful vortex]

yeah i have her

[tropic summit]

ok can play it safe then

[tropic summit]

assemble these and show CP before running, you're on the left

@sinful vortex you can run this as spare T3, emilia can be either laplaceT or drakeT, both would be fine (if you don't have her)

[sinful vortex]

rumani is not built

[tropic summit]

yeah you meet CP requirement, looks good

other team i guess you're fine from the CP i saw earlier

as for T3, place her in synchro then show CP, maybe you can still hit CP requirement

she can be 0OL 4/4/4 R15 or R0

if you don't wanna bother it's also fine, T3 is sort of throwaway, although it has a chance to indom and wipe

[sinful vortex]

i got to 601

[tropic summit]

yep looks good CP wise here too

you can run those 3 teams then, T1 and T2 we expecting a win, T3 is gonna be 🍿

[gritty ridge]

Rail do you have t.miranda

[tropic summit]

nope

[gritty ridge]

Ok hear me out rail

[tropic summit]

else that RH you saw earlier woulda been miranda

[gritty ridge]

Blanc rh snow rouge x.guillo

[tropic summit]

for pve?

[gritty ridge]

For raid

[tropic summit]

hmmmmm

hyperbuff SWHA uh

might do decently

[gritty ridge]

Normally its t.miranda instead of rh, but team should still do well

[placid bloom]

I wish I pulled for XGuillo

[tropic summit]

mine is sitting on the lvl 1 bench

[gritty ridge]

Idek if x.guillo is who should be there, but she buffs without invest so I figured good for rail

[tropic summit]

ye it's not a bad idea

would make for a better team than the tiga one

i'll think about it

there's still days before raid closes

[gritty ridge]

It also saves crown for another team

[tropic summit]

mhmh

[sinful vortex]

it worked tysm

[tropic summit]

how did t3 go out of curiosity?

the team with rumani

[sinful vortex]

wiped

[tropic summit]

haha it tried its best i guess, thanks

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit so im doing a 3 team rotation in spa atm, wanna look over my 3rd team set?

[tropic summit]

sure go ahead

[gritty ridge]

Wait my team order is messed up on t3

Uh oh

[tropic summit]

ye was about to say

[gritty ridge]

Noah is not helping much

[tropic summit]

also not a fan of solo B1 noise in p1

[gritty ridge]

Ive personally never seen her die under a 25% deficit

Unless like 5 sg

Then she die fast

[tropic summit]

bsoda vestitu and lappy or similar combos can be lethal on her

and ofc sg team

it's a risk you can take if you think ur opponents are too 🐒 to run those tho

[gritty ridge]

Tbf

I do

The ones below c5 at least

Normally I run siren over manchor, but idk how I feel abt that on defense

[tropic summit]

siren in p2 can be annyoing

forces to run noah in a specific set

[gritty ridge]

Any other b1 you think may be beneficial?

[lean ore]

Does Biscuit serve a similar or analogous purpose to Sr Anis? I ask because I'm currently using Sr Anis as my flex battery/RL. But as such I don't currently have Biscuit on any team rn. And my Biscuit has a fair bit higher CP than my Anis.

[gritty ridge]

Biscuit and anis have 2 seperate jobs

Anis is a battery to make you faster, while biscuit is slow but provides alot of survivability if used right

Biscuit will make a defender immune to dmg at 60% hp twice. That can be 2 different defenders or the same one twice

[lean ore]

I guess it's also worth OLing Sr Anis since I imagine being an Sr character she needs all the stats she can get.

[gritty ridge]

I would honestly put anis at the lowest priority for batteries

[lean ore]

I have. All my others, have at least level 5 purple doll, plus OL, 4/4/4 etc.

[gritty ridge]

Oh ic

Then go ahead and overload anis

[lean ore]

Except Noah lol. Cuz I haven't pulled her equip yet lmao.

[tropic summit]

keep her at 4/4/4 0OL R15 imo, that way she retains the possibility to be easily sacc'ed

you'll be benching her soon enough, we've a lot of batteries nowdays

[gritty ridge]

I dont have t.lap so eventually anis will come off the bench for me

Cuz id rather it be anis than drake on my scar team

[molten bough]

Current team but I got the new Snow White and scarlet can I implement them?

[gritty ridge]

Replace anis

Or cindy and burst with lib

[molten bough]

With who?

[gritty ridge]

Snow

[molten bough]

Ok thx

[gritty ridge]

Scarlet requires trina or blanc to be used well

[lean ore]

Is there a "more or less" conventionally considered best rookie arena attack team?

[gritty ridge]

No

Atk is tailored per defense

[tropic summit]

keep cindy in there, at synchro 160 CP matters a lot, go with replacing anis

[lean ore]

In that case is there a more or less best rookie defense team? Haha

[gritty ridge]

You can rotate between a few

[tropic summit]

strictly speaking, early pressure rookie or gimmick teams work the best in rookie

The first because it adds general difficulty and needs specific counters
The latter because people don't know how to deal with them

examples would be absolute or early pressure stack splashers and slow cindy

[gritty ridge]

The humble 1rl scar

[hollow lagoon]

Yes send me to my deth

[tropic summit]

early pressure rookie

SWHA noah VestiTU laplaceT jackal
SWHA noah vestiTU emilia jackal
SWHA noah vestiTU flex siren
SWHA noah vestiTU HelmT rosanna
**
slow cindy variants**

blanc rumani midhara biscuit cindy
nayuta cindy rumani biscuit midhara
blanc siren rumani cindy biscuit

[gritty ridge]

If my helm wasnt so high cp I would use swha over helm on my rookie team

Its like a 40k difference between the 2

[hollow lagoon]

Just gib swha high cp

[gritty ridge]

Bro shes sr15 with good lines, helm just has 12/12 lines most at tier 11

And also helm is c7

[hollow lagoon]

I have sr15 with mid lines

As all my units are

[gritty ridge]

This guy has 170 sr15

[hollow lagoon]

Quat

I have 40 ish

[gritty ridge]

I have 21

[hollow lagoon]

Or is it 30

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-angry-kid-congrats-nice-happy-for-you-gif-16045257244806990422

[gritty ridge]

Why are you upset

You have more than me

[hollow lagoon]

One day I’ll have good lines on my units

[gritty ridge]

My snow is 70/30 which i think is a solid amount

[hollow lagoon]

Better than me

[glacial haven]

May someone help a fellow commander?

[gritty ridge]

Yeah zant

[lean ore]

Pvp is interesting haha.

[gritty ridge]

Help a fellow commander

[hollow lagoon]

I have def roll I’m tankier

[gritty ridge]

[hollow lagoon]

[glacial haven]

I need some spicing cooking, since mine tastes like shit.

[hollow lagoon]

I think the 40 is th ammo

[gritty ridge]

I can help season your cooking

[cedar sorrel]

How do u see those stats neatly like that

[gritty ridge]

Blabla link

[glacial haven]

Thx. I will throw you some data that I got. THis guy is truly giving me a headache.

[tropic summit]

what troubles thee

[hollow lagoon]

Over powered

[tropic summit]

oh it's the soda opponent

[tropic summit]

@hollow lagoon get back to work

[gritty ridge]

I knew it

Zanta issues

[tropic summit]

honestly might aswell just facetank scarlet nuke

[cedar sorrel]

Wow thats cool I wish blablalink was like an app or something

[gritty ridge]

It is lmao

[hollow lagoon]

[cedar sorrel]

Really?

[gritty ridge]

Yes

[glacial haven]

I dont want to ping or bother anyone. So...

[hollow lagoon]

He didn’t use my team

[tropic summit]

you don't bother don't worry

this is the purpose of this chat

@glacial haven for starters can you make this team and show me its CP against enemy team?

[glacial haven]

I say this, cause yesterday, i saw someone ping you, and well... The answer wasn't "nice". But still, i rather prefer that some good willing commanders would help me, and if it don't, it is what it is.

[compact ore]

bother people, its the point of a ask for help chat

[glacial haven]

Sure.

Everything is in CP wise. So, no penalties there.

[tropic summit]

team on the left, that's not the team

[glacial haven]

I know, but still. I rather keep polite and humble. Since I'm a noob trying to understand the bs arena is.

[glacial haven]

Face tank with bay and noise?

[tropic summit]

also you sure it was me? i generally don't turn down pings in this chat unless they're meaningless

[tropic summit]

no the logic of that team is to reduce RNG from soda stun, if she needs to stun 2 B2s or 2 B1s that's less RNG than needing to stun only one of each

[glacial haven]

Sorry. My mistake.

[upper grove]

@tropic summit how are you rail? Is this considering meaningless

[tropic summit]

reported and blocked 10/10

[upper grove]

Nooo who is gonna cook with my weak ass arena knowledge

[placid bloom]

it's not fun to ping people that are already here

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-thats-right-youre-right-gif-6015959

[placid bloom]

there

[tropic summit]

what a booly

[compact ore]

your main source of gems as a f2p, thats what it is

[upper grove]

I can mald sr and campaign like a madman but I'm not familiar with pvp at all

I copied my CA bracket winner 2 CA ago but didn't make it out of groups this time

[high stream]

Alright, I want to push for Rank 10 in my bracket and hold it .. This is the current Rank 10. Can I beat them?

[glacial haven]

Hmmm, My fear is that my Bay isnt really invested and she probally will tank my CP. But We could give it a go. (She doesn't have treasure too)

[high stream]

I gotta go against one of these guys

[tropic summit]

just post that matchup with the units so i can check CP?
this is the approach you looking at with that setup btw

it's the team that reduces soda RNG the most

[versed mesa]

If you don't overuse pings it's fine, also people can just mute pings when they don't want to be disturbed

[upper grove]

So true pinging sussy for SR teams isn't even half as funny when he's already chatting

[tropic summit]

ye you can beat these

[high stream]

In that lineup as well? Or would u change anything?
I have everything except Emilia.

[tropic summit]

i mean it's a 4RL scarlet

[glacial haven]

One sec.

[tropic summit]

is your vestiTU 4%+ CS btw

[high stream]

4% Charge speed? Let me check ..

[tropic summit]

aye

[versed mesa]

Is 4% enough for VestiTU?

[tropic summit]

generally speaking yes

[placid bloom]

even 0% is enough in a lot of cases tbh

[tropic summit]

good, this is gonna be one of the teams, you've quantum lvl 7?

[versed mesa]

Huh... In that case I've gone a bit too ham on digging for those lol

[lusty gull]

better to aim 8 or 11

[placid bloom]

it's only when you are running something like Moran Noah Vesti that you need cs

[high stream]

No quantum Level 7. All cubes are Level 4, Resilience is lvl 12 and bastion is lvl 7

[tropic summit]

guess we gonna have to use an helm then

[high stream]

This is against his first team, yes?

[tropic summit]

posting shortly

[high stream]

kk

[glacial haven]

Honestly... Not bad. I though it would be way worst.

[versed mesa]

I am at... checks notes 17%

[tropic summit]

assemble these, you're on the left

[tropic summit]

ok looks like that is gonna be one team, let's see for the other 2

[high stream]

My noise is not built enough I believe. Any subs?

[lusty gull]

it's not a bad thing, only another way, but i personally would avoid more than 11

[glacial haven]

Here i took out Noah and Rumani.

[versed mesa]

I only recently even realised about the breakoff points, so just been trying to get CS% on most things, while trying to get attack and ele with them

[tropic summit]

assemble these, you're on the left, post a SS again for T3 we can check CP
last check to do is run that T3 in shooting range, tell me if vestiTU gets jumping jackal buff

To test:

1. enter shooting range with that team
2. pause
3. click on vestiTU, check buffs active

[glacial haven]

Here is THelm. Usually, i win with easy against this comp, but his noah is on crack.

[tropic summit]

rapunzel or rumani, got those?

[lusty gull]

it's what you need to do on most pvp units but rare cases need your own adjustment

[versed mesa]

But that means I can just keep my two highest CS% pieces and try to bump for CP on the other two

[high stream]

Rumani is built to the gills

[tropic summit]

either would work, just a flex b1 RL unit

[high stream]

kk

[versed mesa]

But damn is the rock requirement such a roadblock for gearing

[glacial haven]

T2... (Lmao) and T3.

[tropic summit]

gacha mechanic, limited resources, RNG to obtain them, RNG to use them

[tropic summit]

ok CP looks good for T3 aswell, do the test in shooting range like i told you earlier and then we're gud to go after ensuring vesti is linked
ref.: #pvp-arena message

[versed mesa]

Yeah I know why they do it, doesn't mean I can't hate it still

[glacial haven]

https://tenor.com/view/rule-246-kaz-mgs-gif-4633966729607415466

[tropic summit]

absolutely right

[high stream]

@tropic summit Will my defense be fine?

[versed mesa]

I just wish I had not been so unoptimal in using my rocks for the first few years, probably wasted hundreds of rocks on absolutely useless rolls

[tropic summit]

went as expected, good job

[tropic summit]

hmm T1 and T2 look ok, T3 i guess it's a CP pad, it's not bad per se

[high stream]

Yeah, I asked for a CP pad in here, that is a bit more optimal than a campaign team, I was given that

[tropic summit]

ye looks ok

[high stream]

Here, if u wanna have a look.

I have ALL pvp Nikke except Emilia

[tropic summit]

'is fine, whoever cooked that knew what he was doing

[high stream]

But not all are built as well

[high stream]

[glacial haven]

Yes she is getting linked.

[quartz vortex]

damm i opened some cases and now i can reach challenger

[tropic summit]

alrighty, give it a shot with those, record the match

[glacial haven]

I shall throw LVL 7 on Jackal's skill. Just for good measure.

[tropic summit]

cubes if you wanna minmax:

noise any
rumani any
noah temp
bay temp
helmT any

vestiTU (don't vigor)
blanc healing
rh any vigor
swha any vigor
jackal quantum

[high stream]

As soon as my res cube is 15 .. Ima go for quantum 7 i guess, lol

[tropic summit]

ye it can help for situational teams

[quartz vortex]

is it me or most tetra units have no burst gen

[tropic summit]

as you saw earlier we had to swap around helmt for swha

[high stream]

Yeah

[tropic summit]

sometimes you wanna avoid using helmt

[high stream]

Why is that?

[tropic summit]

because she's probably more useful in another team

[high stream]

Ahh

[tropic summit]

whenever making teams you generally try to avoid using the most powerful batteries

because when making 2nd or 3rd team, you still have them open

[high stream]

Understandable. You need at least 2 teams that are super powerful, you can sac the third

[tropic summit]

exactly

[high stream]

Kinda crazy that now teams are being made with Scarlet benched and such

[tropic summit]

she still has usage, just more situational because everyone builds def teams assuming you've her

[quartz vortex]

for my 3rd defense comp should i leave it like this or just auto it for higher cp?

[placid bloom]

this look like waste of good unit

[tropic summit]

blanc p1 is very abusable by siren, avoid that

[placid bloom]

I would rather make Vesti one of the strong team and CP pad a different team

[quartz vortex]

they are all really weak thats why

[placid bloom]

unlucky

[quartz vortex]

my 2 other comps

[tropic summit]

yeah as kuwon said, move that vesti from the cp pad

T1 SBS is a weak choice

[placid bloom]

it's probably selector Vesti with no invest yet

[tropic summit]

hell lib on def as main B3 is also copium

[placid bloom]

so can't really use

until she get some invest

[tropic summit]

i'd say get SWHA as main B3 in T2, unless she's not invested
move vestiTU in T1 as main B3, move w/e is left on high CP in T3, but don't run blanc there, just run regular indom

[quartz vortex]

only missing boosts for swha

[tropic summit]

jackal vestiTU flex blanc flex

[placid bloom]

if you are stuck at MC wall waiting on sync then you can just take a month off to work on PvP unit tbh

or if you pass MC and stuck at Behemoth wall, same thing

[glacial haven]

@tropic summit

[tropic summit]

someone talking from experience...

[tropic summit]

you won lotto, both B2 stunned, that's 20% chance
as for vesti, can you get her 1 more ammo OL?

[placid bloom]

well it is the best time to work on PvP

1 month of rock while waiting for sync cannot always fix campaign team

but it can do a lot to make PvP unit usable

[tropic summit]

soda stonks

true evil

i'm just glad i don't have an enemy that runs that same thing on rookie, it would be 🍿 everyday

[placid bloom]

just need fat enough Noise to survive for 1s then Noah burst when unstun and win

surely Scar don't build ele dmg

[tropic summit]

he could probably run a 3rd b2 at this point, thinking of anchorIM to eat the nuke

[quartz vortex]

my TUvesti is only 4/7/7 still burst bursting?

[glacial haven]

I dont belive this is possible.

[tropic summit]

you've 2 low lvl ammo lines, would be nice getting those to 60% both

you missed the last barrage on noah earlier... else we gotta change approach and really consider eating scar nuke faceon

[glacial haven]

His T2 (Vesti team) is this hard to win against?

[tropic summit]

need rosanna, you got her invested? or moran

[glacial haven]

I got rosanna

[tropic summit]

7/10/10 SR15 40% atk?

[glacial haven]

7/7/10 SR 5

Well... Somewhat i got her.

[tropic summit]

where's the atk% OL

[versed mesa]

The atk% rolls are in the other universe, where rng is actually on our side

[glacial haven]

😅

[tropic summit]

we gonna help rosy with lappy and vestiTU

try these next time when you got an attempt

[glacial haven]

She got her initial lines. When you get the OL gear.

[versed mesa]

I tend to always have either attack% or ele% on my rolls, but never both

[tropic summit]

atk% and ele atk% together, the elusive dream

[quartz vortex]

do you mean someting like this?

[tropic summit]

ye looks go- wait what's alice doin' there

[placid bloom]

5 quantum

[quartz vortex]

cp

didnt change their cubes lmao

[tropic summit]

does vestiTU link in here?

[quartz vortex]

its was test page

[placid bloom]

SBS have more burst gen than Alice but adjusting link might be issue

[quartz vortex]

no weakest unit

[tropic summit]

...

[placid bloom]

[glad meteor]

Could try something like this

[tropic summit]

jackal vestiTU blanc helmT flex

^ change it to this

[versed mesa]

Lvl15 cubes have 12 slots, have to use them somewhere

[placid bloom]

you need to put defender battery into p4 for Vesti to link

but your CP will get wrecked

[tropic summit]

flex unit needs to not steal link from vestiTU

[glad meteor]

T1 without ade invest will be rng unless you can tank

[placid bloom]

so it is not really something you can do until Vesti get more invest

[tropic summit]

already won the 20% lotto

[placid bloom]

then you can put better unit into p4

[glad meteor]

I saw

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

I used to sacc with qeq. But dont think many invest

[quartz vortex]

thats why i originally put her in team 3 just to take the hit

[tropic summit]

ah so you just remove scarlet early on, ye not a bad idea

his ros is 0% atk tho

and SR5

[glad meteor]

Vesti and laplace autos should be enough to weaken it

Or even kill scar outrught

[tropic summit]

oke that's worth a shot

[glacial haven]

T2 - 1005801
T3 - 1062382

[tropic summit]

looks like you're in range

[glad meteor]

The rosanna team is vs scar

[tropic summit]

@glacial haven up to you if u wanna try the Kara's suggestion or this 2nd mine suggestion, i don't mind either way

[glacial haven]

I dont have TViper.

[quartz vortex]

could try to build treasure laplace once i build some electric units

[glad meteor]

Could use any clip sg prob.

[tropic summit]

any low invest water code unit?

[quartz vortex]

got it to mlb already

[tropic summit]

possibly non RL or SR

SMG/AR/SG prefered

(they commit sudoku faster into scarlet)

[glacial haven]

Depends on what you want. But in the 'usable' threshold, it only goes until Lewdmilla. After her, its pretty much uninvested.

[tropic summit]

@glad meteor phantom, privaty, viper, elegg, poli, feels like there's a lot of options

he could just viper

[glad meteor]

Qeq

Shes dual smg so dies asap

I put her in p2 so enemy loses rlgen

[tropic summit]

too bad she's uber invested in this box

[glad meteor]

She should still die relatively quick

[hollow lagoon]

@umbral belfry hilking me for hamster support again the lack of rock is real

[glad meteor]

No way they 2rl if shes in p2

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/sunnyfication-gif-20299408

[glacial haven]

@tropic summit I will give it a go on your comp.

Dude posting scam schemes.... Shame...

[tropic summit]

sure, kara's comp is curious because it can kill scarlet before she goes off, i'd say definitely wanna try that one afterward

[glacial haven]

Oof... Almost...

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

hmm we gotta move helmt back a bit or get you a p1 that can stall like nayuta

probably easier to go with kara approach on T1 and you can keep T3

i think we almost there

[hollow lagoon]

[glacial haven]

At least, rosanna one shooted vesti and laplace

[tropic summit]

yep

[glacial haven]

So, instead TViper, Quency?

[tropic summit]

@glad meteor

[glacial haven]

Just as sacrifical matter?

[tropic summit]

how you wanna change with qeq in mind?

[glad meteor]

I was thinking

Laplace quency Vesti Ros Helmt

[tropic summit]

is that 2RL

[leaden canyon]

if somebody snipes me and when I check when it happened, if the time is right on reset and not a minute before, does that mean they messed up their snipe and used their attempt for after reset?

[glad meteor]

With quency sacced to scar. Ye

[tropic summit]

oh ye 93% to 2RL

+33% from sacc

@glacial haven urn to victory?

[tropic summit]

ye correct, either way if you checked at x:59:40 and there was no attempt, it's very likely AFTER reset

[leaden canyon]

I logged in right on reset and it said recently and then all the time stamps have been right on reset

[glacial haven]

No B2 on T1?

[tropic summit]

ye you killing them with autos and sacc

that's Kara masterplan

i'd trust my unborn baby to kara's strategies

[swift mango]

[glacial haven]

Really curious... Alright... It's game.

[tropic summit]

@glad meteor 🍿

~~inb4 quency lives ~~

[glacial haven]

NOOOOO

Someone attacked him and took his place off

[tropic summit]

we'll never know, shrodinger quency

total blueballed

[glad meteor]

Surely they were lurking

And stole our plan

[tropic summit]

10/10 mind games

[glacial haven]

Sighs....

Well, Surely he will attack later on, and than i will attack him. Mind if I ping you both @glad meteor @tropic summit with the replay?

[glad meteor]

Ping away

[tropic summit]

absolutely share the replay

that T1 is juicy 🍿

[glacial haven]

It's a deal then. I can easly take the thrid spot right now. but it's worthy to spend gems afterwards?

I dont think so...

[tropic summit]

eh up to you but i wouldn't, we can wait

don't worry 👍

[glacial haven]

Says the guy who spend 800 gems on the same guy... (Btw its the same one who I'm trying to win. Again)

PvP fatigue is real.

[glad meteor]

Indeed

[glacial haven]

I hope I'm not abusing your goodwill, but mind to give me some opinions or suggestion on my defense?

[tropic summit]

teams look ok to me, but you can get more opinions i guess

[glad meteor]

Need to fix t1, sw burst wont do much without indom or noah

[tropic summit]

shift vestiTU with SWHA?

[glacial haven]

https://tenor.com/view/naruhodo-gif-21492424

[glad meteor]

Maybe, but then will need to switch centi for like ade, so the team is less rosanna-able

[tropic summit]

ade meta

[glacial haven]

Something like this?

[glad meteor]

I meant ada wong i always get them mixed up

[glacial haven]

No problem.

[glad meteor]

looks fine

As long as snow white is ensured to have indom

If I had to guess. Laplace and snow are linked.

[glacial haven]

I could check. But I belive it too they will get linked.

Ada is getting linked.

[glad meteor]

Will need to do math with vigor cube

Or just put vigor cube on ada and test if indom goes to her in range

[glacial haven]

Forgot to tell. SW and Ada is getting linked. So, I think SW should get the indom, since she is in P2.

[lunar pawn]

how much deficit is usually too much deficit?

like, hitting 1, or getting absolutely devastated by the enemy

[glad meteor]

The damage is distributed equally between the linked units so ada will get indom

[placid bloom]

depends. Jackal links can die before bursting as soon as deficit starts sometimes, but Biscuit p1 tank can go quite high if there isn't a lot of splash threat.

25% winnable with Biscuit

[tidal lichen]

rumani xmaiden nayuta biscuit flex wins against team1 with no rng involved

and just noah vesti the 3rd

[placid bloom]

30% I think was usually when older unit no longer have kill threat, but maybe Vesti win at 30% too

[leaden canyon]

my unbuffed vesti is able to kill at 25% deficit

[placid bloom]

35% deficit might be limit testing

1 Biscuit p1 tank 1 Nayuta p1 can maybe test 35%

[glacial haven]

Saved. Just in case...

[glacial haven]

Ok, i will mess with some cubes here and force the link on LaPlace.

[tidal lichen]

you also have blanc jackal left so u can just 3x win

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit

friendship team is now private equity

[hollow lagoon]

sounds about right breh

[glacial haven]

Even without cube, Ada still getting linked. LaPlace is using resilience (My best one) and no success.

[hollow lagoon]

last bit of possible copium

u can buy more

of the stuff

[tidal lichen]

doesnt really matter

just make sure snow has the lowest hp

[glacial haven]

Even copium i dont have. Already spended everything.

[glad meteor]

The only option you have for that team is the vigor cube. It gives hp% to a nikke.

But need to do math or test if the % is enough

[hollow lagoon]

just chill with fish wife

[glacial haven]

So, vigor on LaPlace. Let me see here.

[hollow lagoon]

pvp is an illusion

[tidal lichen]

defense is an illusion nowadays

too many op asf units

[glad meteor]

Vigor cube on ada

Laplace is core 3 so should be fine

[glacial haven]

I rather have a killer wife or a dead wife.

[hollow lagoon]

i tell my friend

who is a redhood lover

redhood comes out of rapi during full moon

https://tenor.com/view/caterpie-pikachu-sadness-sad-pat-gif-16929957292473132806

[glacial haven]

We got Red Hood at home.
Red Hood at home:

[hollow lagoon]

my cultunion need 1 more

time to try to get

[glacial haven]

No luck.

[glad meteor]

Try blanc burst and see if she gets indom buff

Maybe it’s not worth running the team in the end

And you can just run centi or xmaiden

[glacial haven]

Well, theoretically SW should get the indom, since she is in P2. Thus receiving blast damage.

Just checked. SW should get indom in PvP

[glad meteor]

Vigor cube on ada

Worked

[glacial haven]

Yep.

[wild hemlock]

I'm never maxing snow white doll I guess

[glacial haven]

Not painful enough as my Rapipi. Got Super on phase 9 1/2 and 14 3/4.

Still hurts me to this day.

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit its closer

[swift mango]

don't worry I got to almost phase 14 and 9 before I finished my Nero doll. You could do it.

[swift mango]

make rapi pregnant and rH came out of her forever

[hollow lagoon]

maxwell didnt finish the wombforce thing yet

[swift mango]

just believe

[swift mango]

if you got to phase 9-14, a red guaranteed a super.

don't ask why I know.

[glad rock]

My sp arena guy just decided to build a wall and its such a pain. Any suggestions on how to deal with this?

I got more or less a full box, but going like for like just means i stall out instead of winning

[wild hemlock]

[gilded plover]

Are there any different teams I should use at the moment for SP/Rookie arena or people I should work on building/improving? Figured I should overhaul my current comps after building SWHA. I think I have most of the relevant units but some aren't built yet.

[leaden canyon]

Your noah and blanc can be siren stunned and if siren is not jackal linked she just easily dies to vesti splash

and for rookie blanc just dies to vesti

[gilded plover]

Uh, let's assume that I only vaguely know what I'm doing here.

[leaden canyon]

Do you know how jackal and siren work in pvp at all?

[gilded plover]

Uh.... something something Jackal make burst gage go brr? And no clue on Siren.

[oak hatch]

I experienced worse

[gilded plover]

All of those teams were a straight copy/paste off the recommended ones I saw in a pin here like five months back based on me having the units, not a deep understanding of the intricacies.

[leaden canyon]

So with jackal, your two highest attack units get linked with her and share any damage taken between jackal and the two other units which greatly helps with survivability with those linked units.

Siren will stun the 1st position of your team by the time you do your b2 burst in a 2RL speed team.

[gilded plover]

Oh, so the burst position in the first slot needs to be one that's got some team redundancy built in then.

Or someone less critical to the team function.

[leaden canyon]

well you can do noise noah centi cindy helmT, however if noise has more charge speed or equal to noah then the enemy siren in either position 1 or 2 can still stun your noah because noah will taunt her instead of noise taunting her

Also with it set up like this noah is vulnerable to dying to splash from a vesti team

but at least you cover the siren weakness

the blanc team will always just die to siren though

cant have blanc p1

[gilded plover]

Should I be swapping SWHA (or VestiTU/Nayuta after I build them) in somewhere?

[blissful stream]

hello, could somebody help me build 3 teams for arena?

[leaden canyon]

For now you can do this without having to do a lot of changes

If siren ever gets more attack than laplace then you can use her instead of hood and put her back into position 2 on the scar team

I wouldn't really bother running siren if shes not in p2 linked

[gilded plover]

Gotcha, thanks

[leaden canyon]

Actually might want to put snow in p2 and blanc in p3 just to make sure snow gets indom

But yeah thats like the only change

so it would look like this actually

@gilded plover Actually is your scarlet linked with jackal with lap and hood on the team

you can check this in shooting range and pause to check the buffs on your units, the buff you are looking for is jumpin jackal flash

[gilded plover]

She isn't

[leaden canyon]

Ok let me look at this a little more then

[leaden canyon]

What level is your quantum cube, is it 7?

[gilded plover]

Yes

I could bump it up to 8 rn if that helps?

[leaden canyon]

no it just needs to be 7

do this

Also if you happen to have VestiTU and shes not built at all, I would build her. Shes a god tier pvp unit and can be used to screen clear in regular campaign stages

this is also assuming the charge speed skill on emilia is 10

[gilded plover]

Emilia's skill is at 10, and yeah, VestiTU is next on my build list, only got her recently.

[tidal lichen]

this to p1, vesti blanc to p2 preferably with ada, slow cindy with nayuta to p3

mihara or nayuta should have the most atk on p3

idk why im calling the teams "p"

[swift mango]

Core dust day

[blissful stream]

could somebody help me:((

[shell hazel]

[rustic sandal]

T3 loses. What adjustment can I make?

[shell hazel]

try not to be in deficit is a good starting point

[rustic sandal]

Oh. Damn... so that was the problem.

[shell hazel]

it's part of it yes

otherwise siren will stun your b2 grave and you may lose as a result of that as well

[rustic sandal]

I'll try again by moving a few units.

[shell hazel]

opponent is b2 with anis instead of bay which is fun

[gaunt pulsar]

do you have drake? they cannot burst if their siren is dead

[rustic sandal]

Yeah that's better.

[shell hazel]

yeah looks like lib ate the stun

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit

[rustic sandal]

Better than Grave, and not having burst.

On the first team, I had 185K vs 138K.

[shell hazel]

not as glorious as zanta but I'll take it and for now

[shell hazel]

funny thing is you were probably putting them into deficit

and they to you on the other team

relying on deficit to win it's not a good idea though

[rustic sandal]

Ye. That's why I put RRH as B1.

More deficit for them.

I didn't bother with their T1. Jackal in between Blanc and Cindy is not what I wanna deal.

[umbral crown]

[rustic sandal]

It's so dangerous. I'm tethering between Rank 11 and 10.

[glad rock]

thanks, will give this a try.
think i over stacked for my sw lineup, which hurt everything else

[shell hazel]

doesn't matter that much 10 isn't that diff to 11-30 for actual gems etc atm

you're better prio campaign pushing to keep ahead in pvp without heavy invest needed, and building units that work in both modes helps a lot with that (snow white, helmT, vestiTU)

[rustic sandal]

My ego was fed when I made it to Ch1.

[rustic sandal]

I am. I'm stuck somewhere.

[leaden canyon]

I dont even buy those core dust cases anymore, I need credits

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/taraterrorful-tara-terrorful-cute-cat-cat-sad-cat-gif-4503999093402539113

[shell hazel]

if credits get desperate I can trade the daily resource pack for 30 crates per day at least

instead of 10 cd ones

[leaden canyon]

I have more coredust than credits to use on levels

[low barn]

Anyone can help me improve my pvp team?

[shell hazel]

sure it will get me sometime but it's not yet... 484 sync and a good surplus of credits compared to the others still

[leaden canyon]

we would need to see what else you own

[low barn]

oh yes sorry

[rustic sandal]

Heh...

[shell hazel]

I had such battles earlier on but no one attacks me for now

some rivals where we'd hit eachother 5 times a day lol

these days mostly I try to spread the pain and just hit people 1 time and move on

[noble python]

The OG Challenger 3 guy is being so annoying he’s using Gems to refresh and I keep taking 3rd back when he hands me 6th lmao

[tropic summit]

oh dayum cookin'

[tropic summit]

you did the thing

[noble python]

It might be time to pull out new defenses Rail

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/gintoki-gintama-cooking-anime-gif-15149256

[low barn]

anyone please? 🙏

[tropic summit]

didn't we just update those? ch3 probably knows how to pvp

[noble python]

Yeah but you said once people break through we’d use Ros and Siren teams

[hollow lagoon]

getting hippo into the union give me bonus damage

if i get rail will i hit 21b?

[noble python]

If knowing how to PvP means refreshing with gems to get arena tokens to keep taking back 3rd then ig so

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-yes-gif-21160558

[hollow lagoon]

[leaden canyon]

guessing your quantum isn't level 7?

if quantum isn't 7 just do this

[gritty ridge]

What if its me who's hitting them

[leaden canyon]

you will have to build up noise a bit though

[low barn]

oki thank you !

and for beginner arena?

[leaden canyon]

@tropic summit If this worked only once what would you change it too for SP defense

[leaden canyon]

Jackal blanc vestiTU biscuit helmT

[low barn]

Oki thank you !

[tropic summit]

how many times did he fail against the new def?

[tropic summit]

ye this can be done

[noble python]

None

[tropic summit]

hmm T1 is a bit too much abusable, T2 may have gotten indommed against, not much you can do about it if not adding rosanna, T3 is expensive probably got skipped

[leaden canyon]

Hmmm damn I really am like out of ideas

thats triple 2RL btw

[tropic summit]

that's a bad sign, as i said means he knows what he's doing or he's gapping you

we can try a few more variations i guess, gonna look at #pvp-arena message

[leaden canyon]

Jackal vesti rrh blanc SWHA was being run by an oppeneant and it was kinda nasty, even if you nuke rapi and vesti then snowwhite gets indom

[noble python]

Yeah and oki

[frank ingot]

2 attackers from my group now wants my spot. I am trying to create teams for sp def, is this good?

[leaden canyon]

idk what to do for a third team if I'm doing this

I guess rosanna nayuta sg? idk

not many great options

Nayuta slow cindy maybe actually

[tropic summit]

try these next

check rosanna is linked in T1 via shooting range

[noble python]

This dude does not know when to quit smh

[tropic summit]

well just like you're beating him he's beating you

this is very typical on near same invest / same synchro

[tropic summit]

a noise bay team or a sacc team

or scar soda

[leaden canyon]

I have bay overloaded but no treasure, I dont have soda overloaded

[tropic summit]

go for a sacc then

anis p1, flex flex ros flex

nuker should be something instant and potentially lethal

[leaden canyon]

alrighty lib

or cindy

[tropic summit]

with sacc try to be 2RL though

(from sacc'ing, not naturally)

1 KO should be around 33% burst gen on a 7/10/10 rosanna

[noble python]

She is

[tropic summit]

so aim for a team that is 70%ish to 2RL

[tropic summit]

good to go, lemme know how those go

[noble python]

He still won

[tropic summit]

you set the teams then immediatly attacked him?

it needs a few minutes to update your teams

[noble python]

Then he attacked

[noble python]

Gotcha

[tropic summit]

swap them around and keep them as is with the new one for now, give them 1 more chance i dunno if the updated teams were used or your older ones were

[noble python]

Kk

[leaden canyon]

So even if lib dies then cindy still goes off

[tropic summit]

ye will do

[leaden canyon]

Guess I'll also put a quantum on anis, puts it at 80

Unless you think she should have no cube

[tropic summit]

doesn't matter

opponent will need to choose to bypass or deal with the B1 and sacc, cube won't do much to change the difficulty

[tropic summit]

@hollow lagoon

https://tenor.com/view/antman-what-the-hell-happened-here-avengers-gif-18240147

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/scared-pick-me-up-mom-mommas-boy-chaos-gif-10631341

[lean ore]

What are the most important Nikkes to have quantum cube on? I bet it varies but like generally speaking.

[terse abyss]

damn didnt know that

and here i was trying to change my team last minute

[hollow lagoon]

Swha/trina/centi/rumani/anis/jackal
some times Xmaiden/laplace/libby/clipsg
quantum cube is situational tho

[tropic summit]

it's situational

sometimes you don't need quantum to hit the threshold, sometimes you will, always use burst gen calculators to find out when you need to use it

@fathom rock

https://tenor.com/view/classic-back-to-the-future-bttf-marty-mcfly-ive-seen-this-one-gif-19802188

[lean ore]

oh. So, some teams hit the threshold without the aid of that cube while others hit it because of the cube?

[tropic summit]

ye here's an example of a team you can promote to 2RL via quantums

as you can see team on the left, without quantums, is 98% to 2RL

add quantum, you've now enough burst gen to hit 2RL

quantums essentially can enable teams that usually wouldn't be 2RL or 2.5RL

[hollow lagoon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/946719897390563328/1454971531984896097/Cindy_Pat_Glass_Princess1.gif

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/kamome-kashima-higeneko-pirate-anime-gif-2429412309763451578

[hollow lagoon]

Looks like AR~ not PvP

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/yell-gopher-kit-gif-14542575

[raven plover]

ar defender

[leaden canyon]

@tropic summit The defense actually worked

[tropic summit]

must've been a 🐒

at your synchro ppl still falling for those traps is something else

[leaden canyon]

Usually if I do get a succesful defense against this guy he breaks it next attack so we will see

[tropic summit]

he should

unless he lacks the tools for T1 and T2

[leaden canyon]

nah he got the tools, he also has bay and soda built for pvp

his rosanna is mega built also

[tropic summit]

wait your rival lost to that?

[leaden canyon]

no this the other guy

[tropic summit]

oh oke

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

i'd be surprised if the other guy would lose

[leaden canyon]

the one who cp gaps me is just holding third spot

I'm fighting for second

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/blood-blockade-battlefront-sonic-speed-monkey-sonic-monkey-gif-1189640096706968236

[leaden canyon]

I got some attacks to show you btw

[tropic summit]

🍿

[leaden canyon]

I thought the nayuta win here was funny

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

wow the lifesteal

[hollow lagoon]

Wow

[tropic summit]

that team was born situationally, but it's actually damn strong on its own

i like how he tried several variations of indoms everytime

[leaden canyon]

if I remember right round 1 and 2 are deficit

[tropic summit]

ye they look like they are based on dmg taken

nice triple 🍿

your rivals and that bracket turned you into a monster

[leaden canyon]

The only time that nayuta team didn't work against a blanc team was when he was doing jackal vesti rrh blanc SWHA

I had to do blanc instead and sac SWHA

thought I recorded it but I guess I didn't

I think he has it set up the same now but replace rrh with cindy

[swift orbit]

Good morning, could someone help me put together a counterattack team for that guy? I used to be able to beat him with these teams, but since yesterday I haven't been able to, apart from the fact that I'm always attacked by five people.

[tropic summit]

@hollow lagoon jesus le christ swol white against le dragon, way to trivialize tower

[tropic summit]

oh ye i can see how it messes it up

[tropic summit]

good call

[tropic summit]

so enemy teams are rather mild, in particular on the slower side
you can take advantage of that:** (your teams are on the left)**

T1 and T3 you should expect a win, as they're direct counters, T2 is gonna be RNGy-ish but it's a throw away

double-check CP (multiply enemy CP for 0.846, your team CP should be equal or higher value to avoid penalty)

if it doesn't hit requirement lemme know and can probably tailor them, but i don't think you'll have that problem

[polar valley]

@tropic summit recent update, still unstoppable wall
Hawk can't tuah the wall no more, great technical broski 🤝🏻

[polar valley]

https://tenor.com/view/cheers-toast-salute-here's-to-you-heres-to-you-gif-3182433711752800466

[umbral crown]

besto chef

https://tenor.com/view/pool-boy-dopinder-deadpool-live-the-dreams-mr-pool-gif-22377230

[swift orbit]

They significantly improved the CP on all teams above my opponent, but the first team with Cinderella still climbing is still 50k behind.

Can it work?

[tropic summit]

Yep it's fine

[rapid nacelle]

brothers, I call for aid, for my ass has been getting kicked down to Diamond 3 in arena
assuming friction build level isn't a factor, what are the best comps I can put together right now?

current comps, for baseline

[leaden canyon]

you can replace noir with laplace when ever you get her treasure or if you ever build xmaiden. Also make sure vesti has less health than noir since they are both linked, who ever has less max hp in the link will get the indom, you can help fix this with a vigor cube put onto noir

You also do kinda need noise built for pvp

[rapid nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/back-to-the-future-taking-notes-notes-michael-j-fox-im-writing-this-down-gif-16242461

[leaden canyon]

Also if your noise has less charge speed than your noah thats a good thing because that will let noise taunt instead of noah and prevent your noah from getting siren stunned

[rapid nacelle]

can that be solved with quantum cube on noah?

[leaden canyon]

no its a charge speed thing, so at the very least its the charge speed cube

So if your noah has charge speed lines you're probably fine

Just to be clear, only having the charge speed cube on is not enough charge speed, you need at least a couple charge speed lines

its not a lot just a bit

Unless of course your noise rolls charge speed also lol

then noah needs more

[rapid nacelle]

I've got about 30 custom modules gathering dust, gonna put them to use
(after I grind to level up noah's gear)

[leaden canyon]

before fixing the noah speed stuff, does your vesti have at lesast 8% cs?

because thats a burstgen increase point

[rapid nacelle]

not yet, I only just got her out of the daily pull this weekend

[leaden canyon]

ah ok

[swift orbit]

Thank you

[noble python]

Hey Rail just one question after I get Rosanna’s SR Doll to 15 who would be next in line for maxed doll?

[rapid nacelle]

thanks for the advice, got a whole new set of goals to grind for for the next few weeks

[leaden canyon]

If vesti, helmT, lapT, SWHA already have max dolls then probably jackal and noah and if they already have some then you can either do more batteries like trina, centi, rumani or do noise/moran

[leaden canyon]

np

[noble python]

VestiTU and Helm T do

[leaden canyon]

so no lapT and SWHA doesn't have one

[wintry viper]

what are the ideal levels for the harmony cubes?

[leaden canyon]

7 is the max level for the cube effect

[noble python]

Correct

[leaden canyon]

After that its just stat increases and ele increase

[noble python]

SWHA is at SR 5 Doll and Lap is at SR 10 Doll

[wintry viper]

which cubes to prioritize?

[leaden canyon]

Are you able to get lapT when she hits 15 or is she not affection 30

[leaden canyon]

for pvp content?

[noble python]

Not affection 30 yet only 24 but I’m working on it

[wintry viper]

and PVE as well Hard mode

[leaden canyon]

So if you are not 100% into pvp I would just focus on resilience to push your PVE content, get resilience to 15

[noble python]

I had her hard capped at 20 affection for so long because the game wouldn’t give me another copy…

[leaden canyon]

For pvp tempering and quantum cubes are important to have at least at 7

[leaden canyon]

So lapT would be nice for more burstgen options, or you can try for SWHA 15 since shes always going to be on a team in pvp no matter what

More options is always nice personally but SWHA is going to always be used

Not to mention SWHA is going to be used in PVE as well

you can wait to see what rail says though

[noble python]

Kk

[north brook]

Prob better to max sw for now unless ur rlly struggling in missilis tower

[wintry viper]

okay Res to 15 Temp and Quantum to 7, any other cubes to prioritize after these?

[leaden canyon]

A couple paths you can take. Either bastion to 7 for PVE and you would only really put bastion on MG units that have a lot of ammo. Destruction cube is a PVE option to get to 7 if you want, thats being more competitive in SR though. can do Adjutant Cube to 7 for pvp or you can get tempering to 15 for pvp so you can have almost everybody with tempering and 15 cubes give lots of cp.

It takes a long time to level cubes up though at a certain point

just getting resilience to 15 will take a while

I have bastion at 13 and dont even use it anymore

Pretty much just res 15, temp 15, and I have my quantum and adjutant at 7 for the max cube effect to use in pvp when I need it

[noble python]

Also just got Rosanna SR Doll to Level 15 and got to 301 Synchro level

Some very nice upgrades

[thin geyser]

how much nikke slot for a lv 15 cube?

[leaden canyon]

pretty sure its 15 slots off the top of my head but let me actually just check for you

[thin geyser]

aww, thank you~

[leaden canyon]

its 12

also heres this

[thin geyser]

okay, noted. thanks again

[wintry viper]

Thank you

[brittle oasis]

Should SnowWhite HeavyArm need ammo if using her in pvp? I think i will ovl her with 4e4a and 1 ammo, should i build like that?

[noble python]

Need help beating this guy I’m pretty sure I can do it

[noble python]

Nvm I won