pvp-arena

[frank ingot]

Do I need to improve my team in SP Arena Defense, 1 guy keeps attacking me and keeps winning. There's also one waiting for me when I get attacked by the first guy.

My current defense:
Noah/Biscuit/Cindy/Emilia/Noise
Scarlet/Siren/Trina/Helm.T/SR.Anis
Jackal/Rumani/VestiTU/Blanc/Centi

[tropic summit]

change archetypes, opponent might've gotten familiar with those teams

[gaunt pulsar]

yea you can push really high with what you have, should be at least at 32-32 already, further progress might be slowed because of missing cinderella, also get 1 level to be 221 for cp jump

[frank ingot]

I was about to tell that I tried switching positions with my past teams and the attacker still win. I highly doubt that he will do the same again with my teams now. Still, I will try it. Thank you

[thin geyser]

I haven't pushed much lately, and I was stuck at crystal chamber already. ppl on team building said it's hard without cinderella, and I might need to build Ein, since Scarlet not that good there. I thought having 1 dps each element was enough >.<

[atomic wolf]

snow white with WHAT BURSTGEN

[quick lake]

30.8

[gaunt pulsar]

right... forgot it exists... it's actually not a very hard boss and SWHA should help alot at breaking his horns on either side, but still would need to use scarlet for qte probably, so your options are rapi/crown/SWHA/scarlet/+ nayuta or lib. boss dies to just breaking his parts, so should be doable as long as you focus them during burst

[gaunt pulsar]

what chapter crystal chamber you are on also?

[thin geyser]

Forgot it exists. Strong ppl built different >.<

First time encounter, 28-40. They said I'll meet it again twice later 😞

[thin geyser]

Okay I'll try later, thank you ~ I'm not that good at manual tbh, skill issues

[quick lake]

Same worsened with FPS issues

[gaunt pulsar]

if i did it with this you could do it with current meta push him, campaign matters enough in this game to try to do as best as possible

[thin geyser]

Okie >.<

Tbh it feels rather unrewarding after I finished story mode. I shouldn't have finished it.

[quick lake]

There is hard mode

[raven plover]

check dm

[thin geyser]

Ah that also. But hard mode no story >.<

[gaunt pulsar]

set a new motivation being higher on campaign progress means you getting more return on your core dust boxes and more per hour than your opponents, so if you want to stay competitive in pvp especially it's pretty much mandatory to try to be as high as possible

[quick lake]

Better SR/UR scores is a nice goal to work towards

and pvp

[atomic wolf]

red hood x snow white team back on menu

[atomic wolf]

challenger secured

[harsh tendon]

hi i need help with my teams. these are the characters i do not have. i only got helm, drake and tove treasure

[thin geyser]

Ehehe, okaayy~ I will try my best

[thin geyser]

Okaayyy

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-there-is-no-try-do-star-wars-dont-do-gif-5918158

[high stream]

Hey there, I'm back once again with a ton of resources and progression.
I now have every single Nikke in here except Emilia and Anne: MF. What are the two best possible defense teams I can build? I'll probably still use my campaign team for a third team, although my PvP teams are catching up in power, with every team being around 500K CP now.

This is me currently .. I hold Rank 11 since months now, no one tries to come for it. I think for a push into the top 10, I need to make sure I can't easily be defeated.

My bracket seems really competitive, with people spending gems, even at a loss, to maintain their ranks

[quick lake]

Main units to build:
VestiTU 10/10/10
SWHA 10/10/(1-10)
Moran 4/4/7 -> 7/7/10 -> 10/10/10
Liberalio 10/10/10
Trina4/10/7
Blanc 4/4/10

Secondary priority:
Soda 4/4/4
Noise 4/4/7 -> 7/7/10
LapT 4/10/4
xMaiden 4/10/4

[high stream]

I have almost all of this built already. The Level 7 skill thresholds are reached on pretty much all of them.
The Level 10 thresholds are met on most of them.

About the 2 defense teams, what would they look like?

Like .. the best possible teams we can have.

[quick lake]

Moran Noah Helm SW RH
Jackal Rumani Vesti Blanc Centi
Scarlet Trina xMaiden LapT Pepper(?)

[high stream]

Gotcha.

Say .. For attacking, I want to approach the ability to counter all teams thrown at me
I assume the units u mentioned up there will assist in that. Are there any other Nikke I need built to counter effectively?

[quick lake]

Hmm not really. The first 2 teams should demolish most SPA defence imo

[high stream]

Oh, good.

[quick lake]

Just good OLs on SW, like 4 atk (and 4 ele in pve)

Same for Vesti, atk ele, cs, ammo is good

[high stream]

OLs remain the hardest part. I saved up another 150 stones, but that's essentially nothing, when trying to perfect OLs

[quick lake]

I would say these are the only 2 DPS that wants good OL lines

yeah. As long as u reroll properly, its fine.

Every one is limited by rocks

[high stream]

True

Whales slightly less so, but not by much

It seems the max stones u can force by whaling is also limited

[quick lake]

yepp

[high stream]

SW wants doll, right?
I assume all my pvp nikke want dolls eventually, yeah?

[quick lake]

yep ideally

Still better to work on pushing campaign

early to mid game is mostly to out-sync ur competition

[high stream]

My campaign team reached its peak
RRH even has perfect OLs

[quick lake]

Very nice

[high stream]

The only thing I can do on my campaign team right now would be starting to perfect OLs on Crown, Siren, maybe RH, maybe HelmT

[quick lake]

Please dont waste rocks on crown

[high stream]

Thats what I thought, so I didnt so far

[quick lake]

I think Vesti is pretty good for campaign clearing

So dual campaign and pvp invest

[high stream]

I have her at 10/10/10, Doll and really good OLs, although her ammo count is uneven .. she has like 37 ammo or something

So at least for PvP .. she wont stop shooting until everything is dead

[quick lake]

Thats too much ammo

I think likr 16-24 is enough

[high stream]

I spent a lot of stones, but eventually stopped

To revisit later

[quick lake]

Slow grind

[shell hazel]

[crystal flicker]

WEakling

[worn ridge]

Should i use snow burst instead guys 🤔?

[pliant totem]

Yo is there a new guide or team builds that i should use for pvp, the last time i touched my pvp team was over a year ago

[shell hazel]

barely out of deficit 😄

they do look fairly weak though my teams are 1.1M at 481

[pliant totem]

I read the channel and this is what i came up with. I got all the characters but I dont have the pvp focused characters built. Is this good for now

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

is this rookie? if it is just run the team we ran for doppel yesterday

using snow burst instead of cindy won't win this because you still died at end of indom

[gaunt pulsar]

i think he had a chance, he just got 1 ammo checked, went into reload when he should've been keep shooting, he is on slower indom and sw attack lingers, but reload sucks

but in terms of burst or not yea, sw bursting wouldn't have helped probably, even longer charge time so harder to catch when vesti leaves indom

[shell hazel]

although she would not have been reloading then maybe as her shooting in burst is longer charge

[shell hazel]

don't run unbuilt pvp units just build them until cp is good then you can run

rapunzel is too niche, just build the others like jackal noise noah blanc etc

if you run unbuilt you'll just be cp diffed instead

[swift mango]

brilliant

[strange linden]

why using jackal for vesti? is biscuit+blanc not good enough?
I tried scarlet without jackal, she barely survive until she burst and then die lol

[swift mango]

so long as you can 2rl 3 teams.

[strange linden]

using this team, I heard you only need 8% CS on vesti for the breakpoint which is important here to go from 2.5RL to 2RL, is that right?

[swift mango]

No

Need at least 15%

And that's still not 2rl

[strange linden]

damn, well I'll try again

[swift mango]

But if Vesti 5-8% then SW 2nd attack could be trigger for full burst. That's still not 2rl but faster than Vesti 3rd shoot

Put it in Nikke work for more detail. I just check by eyes here so not that accurate

[umbral belfry]

@dense kindle I love ruining cheers

[umbral belfry]

you have a grave error in t3, check your b2 and see which one is bursting

[hollow lagoon]

@nimble swan

@shell hazel

Zael did me in

[umbral belfry]

[swift mango]

[umbral belfry]

your rocks are mine

[hollow lagoon]

What I’m I supposed to do he used salad,

[pliant totem]

jackal->biscuit->vesti?...This is just to hold my position as it been a while since i touched the teams, I was still using the privaty SAnis stun tech. The server is full of whales so i doubt i will ever get higher

[hollow lagoon]

Managed to biscuit my vesti set too

[umbral belfry]

no sir you don't want bisc bursting there. you want blanc

or you lose out on your 10 sec of indom

[pliant totem]

ah...The team still won against the guy ive been trading places with

[hollow lagoon]

I’m stuck at top 16 but I don’t really hate my placement

[umbral belfry]

thankfully for the other dude he doesn't know how to team build bc that's an easy win for them

[hollow lagoon]

@umbral belfry cook me ca

[shell hazel]

@cunning crown champ run?

[umbral belfry]

also assuming it's a def team, you have no way of knowing what teams he fights

[hollow lagoon]

[umbral belfry]

[hollow lagoon]

[hollow lagoon]

Has to be, he took me out did what u and taarn couldn’t

Broke thru the curse

He’s the ultimate chosen one

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/the-one-he-is-the-one-gif-14744864

[dense kindle]

to all the doubters

-# ps i will be copying your comps at the end of this CA

[shell hazel]

gz Hime 🙂

Hime champ run?!

[umbral belfry]

I'm locked in

[shell hazel]

damn my blind majority vote failed, goodbye credit cases

[umbral belfry]

[swift mango]

U just got champ recently

[hollow lagoon]

That’s like 3 season ago

I’m not consistent

[swift mango]

My last champ is 14 season ago

[hollow lagoon]

I think getting champ is getting lucky with a truly unique anti meta comp

Cuz the alternative is whale even harder which I’m
Not willing

[swift mango]

It's just lucky

[umbral belfry]

first glance I'm making it top 4

[hollow lagoon]

Nah same Chinese whale gotten Champ 2x in a row, looks like a 3rd

[umbral belfry]

after that? i dunno

[hollow lagoon]

Teams are pure black dolls, including anis

[swift mango]

Whales have my more luck on their side

[shell hazel]

failed in quals twice in a row lol

[hollow lagoon]

lol

[worn ridge]

I used the one with doppel , but snow always get the buff so i iust let her burst and won

[hollow lagoon]

Not even I was degenerate enough to max maiden

I just core 3ed

But this whale being stuck at 32-32 is funnier to me

[swift mango]

That's contribute to the luck.

I still got it.

[hollow lagoon]

winning run?

[swift mango]

Nope. I saw some sure lose on the way.

[shell hazel]

did you try the moran noah helmt biscuit trina ver?

[shell hazel]

that is where booba whale is

[worn ridge]

Mi noran is weak

[shell hazel]

they got to same sync as me more or less, def buying some dust as I've been ahead of them in campaign for a while

[worn ridge]

Moran noah trina helm biscuit

41 lvl difference too

[shell hazel]

biscuit left of trina I think

[hollow lagoon]

Not everyone can clear MC like @shell hazel after all 461

[covert lintel]

Because of SW, SG's worth has become lower in CA

[shell hazel]

they're mobile gamer challenged maybe 😄

[hollow lagoon]

[hollow lagoon]

Just can’t pull timings like what I can do for PC

4burst on anchor for ziz

That thing is tight

[umbral belfry]

[hollow lagoon]

Hime let me have 8 rocks today

I worked hard

[umbral belfry]

no

you lost I have to take them

[hollow lagoon]

But zael used my salad comp to beat me it’s like I won

U can’t do dis

[umbral belfry]

[hollow lagoon]

Eah my rosana couldn’t take out the Ada

[swift mango]

At least my shit Nero team is still winning.

[hollow lagoon]

I don’t comprehend it

But rosana got taunted

Looks like my scar Rosa needs a dead unit

[dense kindle]

So strong

[hollow lagoon]

But dead unit = emma

[tulip quest]

Nikke his casual hobby

probably

[hollow lagoon]

He out whales me

[tulip quest]

yea max cores I saw

[hollow lagoon]

For a rosana enjoyer I been neglecting

[shell hazel]

thoughts on scar-less SPA def?

[hollow lagoon]

Weak helm

No dmg

[shell hazel]

will just out-sustain super moran

[hollow lagoon]

Prob gets killed by cycle 2 version stall

[shell hazel]

probably but that is quite costly to run

[hollow lagoon]

How is it costly

They don’t need Noah version

[shell hazel]

most here won't have nero stall built

[hollow lagoon]

YOU don’t have Nero built

[shell hazel]

I do a bit 😄

[glad meteor]

Scar kinda mid in sp def. The rapu soline stun team worked well for me but if you know how to avoid pressuring p1, then its pretty easy to beat. And soda scar kinda rng and need cs and strong stats

[shell hazel]

my main issue with nero is her LB0 state

[hollow lagoon]

Oh it’s 2.5 u can still get rosanaed

[shell hazel]

it's not 2.5

it's basically 2RL on next moran auto-attack, it's like 4F slower than 2RL

I can make it exactly 2RL with another quantum but it's essentially 2RL

[hollow lagoon]

Rosana helm for profit

Slower indom your sw team

[shell hazel]

I guess I can set this for now and change up if anyone can actually beat me

[hollow lagoon]

Arnt u the whale of ur bracket now? They don’t even try

[shell hazel]

no they don't you're right

so I just want to set something and I'll switch up some if it gets beaten

[hollow lagoon]

Ur giving them new comps to study to make CA tougher if anything

[quartz rover]

Should I swap out my padded team for an actual one? Think I can make something with these

Adding liberalio dips my power a lot

[shell hazel]

I doubt anyone will attack it tbh most are too focused on battling for 2/4/5

[hollow lagoon]

I don’t even check my spa

Only will matter for next reshuffle

[shell hazel]

my last def was booba whale over 60 days ago before shuffle

[hollow lagoon]

How often does shuffles happen anyway

[quartz rover]

Shuffle added like 4 whales to my ladder

[shell hazel]

it's every 3 months afaik

[quartz rover]

One doesn't care about spa, the others are annoying

[hollow lagoon]

Come to my backet it’s relatively peaceful

[shell hazel]

so two more SPA seasons I think

[hollow lagoon]

I don’t even wanna invest my PvP units anymore

[shell hazel]

I didnt touch mine in 2 months

I'm building anchor for snek

[quartz rover]

Would something like this be ok for a team? I'll have to move it around still

[hollow lagoon]

I touched flora a bit for copium but I nd up not using her

The goal here is to lib burst?

But lib needs to live

[quartz rover]

The goal is to boost burst speed with centi and liberalio

Dunno what to do beyond that

[hollow lagoon]

Still looks slow

By my standards

[quartz rover]

The selection doesn't seem very impactful

[shell hazel]

why is RH at p1 😄

[quartz rover]

I picked them in order of appearance

In my box

[shell hazel]

you think RH prettier than fish waifu? 😄

[hollow lagoon]

Why Donny run ur team thru NIKKE deck

[shell hazel]

zanta will have a problem with that

[hollow lagoon]

Fish waifu prettiest

[quartz rover]

Is sdoro on defense even impactful

[quartz rover]

What if I made her burst on defense

[hollow lagoon]

Sdoro is pertty bad in PvP

[shell hazel]

no s.doro is too slow to be good

almost any other b3 is better

[hollow lagoon]

It’s like a worse redhood

Basically hood that feeds

[quartz rover]

Is liberalio burst bad in pvp? Used it a few times in rookie and it has good numbers on paper but didnt seem good

[shell hazel]

easily countered is the issue

just catch her nuke with noah and she's kind of meh after that

[hollow lagoon]

Lib burst is good if u know what ur doing

[shell hazel]

decent burst gen/flex battery

[hollow lagoon]

Lib is better off making helm shoot faster

Oh wait how did my salad work again

[shell hazel]

you throw stuff in and it just works

[hollow lagoon]

Oh Ada gets lib’s buff

Nun-huh

Salad was calculated team

[quartz rover]

What is laplace used for in pvp

[hollow lagoon]

Gen and splashy

[shell hazel]

splashy gen you could say

[quartz rover]

Do you need her to burst for that

[hollow lagoon]

Her burst kinda weak

[quartz rover]

My lapT kinda weak

[shell hazel]

though I think someone showed her healing beam 😄

[hollow lagoon]

Maybe could be good if CA 10 seasons ago

Ada Laplace?

[arctic jewel]

👀

[hollow lagoon]

[arctic jewel]

@hollow lagoon name of artist? For... uhmmm... research! Yesh, that reason!

[shell hazel]

@hollow lagoon #pvp-arena message

healing beam

[swift mango]

@worldly osprey With luck we may meet in the final but probably won't happen.

[hollow lagoon]

Ripped it from interweb didn’t check

[arctic jewel]

😭

[versed mesa]

I'm voting for Bas7ial in my next CA vote

[swift mango]

@him then

[hollow lagoon]

Won’t work against big explosions but seems fancy

Also biscuit weak

And nayuta weak

[shell hazel]

I know was just funny to watch

[cunning crown]

[hollow lagoon]

Ye

[swift mango]

I would probably lose then. The majority is always wrong.

@median flare ⚔️

[quartz rover]

Something like this?

Lapt and Moran make it 3rl regardless who is there

[swift mango]

Normal attack and burst gen

[worn plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-banging-shield-rahhh-thiccatina-gif-2077174781171827192

[worldly osprey]

I think i can win ' ' if my scar can use burst and i in def too. Have a small chance i can win him in t1 t2 t3 t4

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/lock-in-locked-in-lock-tf-in-cat-cat-meme-gif-13335816645637017379

[versed mesa]

My rival hasn't leveled up, or changed his teams at all, yet all 3 teams are 50CP higher or lower than yesterday That always makes me so nervous on what he has done in the background

[hollow lagoon]

Are you also a fish enjoyer

[swift mango]

Well, rather than noise bay, it's Jackal Linked Noise lol... Moran is fine on her own.

Noise not much so

[hollow lagoon]

Recycling room then

[shell hazel]

maybe they forgot to put cubes on before 😄

[swift mango]

Just reroll attribute and got 2 Ele black

[versed mesa]

I thought about that but all teams should be higher, one team is down a little

[hollow lagoon]

Cube change then

[swift mango]

Or upgrade cube. We just had union raid

[shell hazel]

not had the rewards yet. wondering if I had enough to tempura 11

[hollow lagoon]

I’m contemplating which cube

Tempura?

[shell hazel]

my plan is resi 13 and tempura 13 then I'll worry about another cube

[swift mango]

I would be tempering lv15 next month

[cunning crown]

SUZAKU NO

[versed mesa]

Yeh. I guess, one time in the past he made such a minor cp change that I thought "eh prolly means nothing" yet my teams that won easily suddenly lost

[swift mango]

One union raid = 1 level.

[hollow lagoon]

Plan to tempura 8

Then try to resil/bastion/destruction 10

[cunning crown]

Showdown in top 4 with our bracket terrorist if I pull the next one off but we'll see

[shell hazel]

both blanc variants made it to top 8 again in ours lol

[swift mango]

I used tempering for the bull and would use tempering for the snake probably....bSonueah, tempering al
L the way.

[shell hazel]

moran/blanc guy and the clone

[hollow lagoon]

If u win CA taarn will go berserk

[versed mesa]

I dunno what to go for I have lvl 15 on Resilience and Quantum, bastion is 13, rest are between 8-5

[shell hazel]

actually me too lol

tempura meant Rapi could survive one rock hit

without it she died

[hollow lagoon]

U got hit by rock?

[shell hazel]

yup

[hollow lagoon]

Just break them

[shell hazel]

can happen timing was tight

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

bro I know but if timing is slightly off, rock to face

[versed mesa]

I couldn't beat Behe until I could guarantee rocks breaking every time

[quartz rover]

[shell hazel]

I could eat one rock made malding the runs a bit less maldy

[quartz rover]

That's such low power but its 2rl

[hollow lagoon]

Behe’s kinda easy now days

[shell hazel]

which was tempura to the rescue for me 😄

[hollow lagoon]

Back to like mid ass boss with bit of mechanic like mother whale

[versed mesa]

Siren was great for behe, didn't need to time bursts for the focus fire

[hollow lagoon]

I did it without siren first time

[shell hazel]

I recorded my behe run here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnnJv3Zi5oQ

problem is zanta you didn't clear at my sync, it's a different game at lower sync/cp

[quartz rover]

I didnt use siren for behe, but I did use 5 pilgrims/os which is easy mode I imagine

[shell hazel]

if you get high enough sync the whole fights easier

[hollow lagoon]

Give me a 4/4 ele atk Cindy Lel

[shell hazel]

damage was fine it's gen that's the issue

[hollow lagoon]

Irrelevant point anyway next Behe clear require ziz

[shell hazel]

no one has any gen except helmT so have to manual charge her all the time

[polar valley]

@tropic summit my man, any idea to beat this hawk tuah?

[shell hazel]

I could sometimes make it past all the rocks without eating any but it was RNG

so having a cushion of one rock helped a lot

[hollow lagoon]

U don’t need to manual charge helm all the time only first bit where boss force reload unless u manual

[shell hazel]

nice unprotected noah at p1 would be a shame if siren stunned her

[hollow lagoon]

But on siren Nayuta version that become not a thing

[shell hazel]

need to get back to burst asap not 100% of the time no

[versed mesa]

1240 Tribe Tower Ziz is a nightmare, so much higher CP requirement than hardmode campaign

[hollow lagoon]

Ur not playing my comp, im still clearing lower sync than ND

[polar valley]

But.. my R3 is perfect though.. i only have a problem with R1 and R2

[shell hazel]

but at end of each burst cycle I have to be charging up the ol' helm

[hollow lagoon]

Mean while I get stuck at siren cdr

[shell hazel]

I did try nayuta ver just not enough damage

[quick lake]

I hope we get another good B1 CDR unit

[shell hazel]

not at these deficits

mast for the win

[polar valley]

Idk.. seems to work for me, not even single of them died, but R1 and R2 lose badly

[hollow lagoon]

Deficit gaming is meme anyways u won’t even have it anymore by next year

[shell hazel]

i'm talking about behe fight sorry not your pvp match

[tropic summit]

do you've biscuit and nayuta?

[quartz rover]

Why does sbs build burst slower than scarlet

[polar valley]

I have nayuta, no biscuit

[quartz rover]

Scarlet isnt even a rl

[shell hazel]

a year from now? probably true

[hollow lagoon]

Why does Cindy build burst slower than anything but swha gets a pass

[shell hazel]

although new chapters will raise the ceiling a bit

[quartz rover]

yeah the humanity

[glad meteor]

Sr15 absolute

[hollow lagoon]

Just give Cindy regular rl gen every shot

[tropic summit]

ok and moran and noise?

[quartz rover]

Snow white pretty much has this

[shell hazel]

i'll surely slowly outpace deficit but I think it will be after I'm like sync 600 or so 😄

[polar valley]

Moran, no, noise also no.. i do have helm though but not treasure yet

[hollow lagoon]

ur gonna need to make a alt to experience it again

[placid bloom]

SW is their apology to all the people that don't have Emilia

[tropic summit]

post your box i need to know what you've because you're lacking a lot of units

[polar valley]

Uh okay

[shell hazel]

I won't do it

[covert lintel]

Nah, it's even more chaos for those who have emi

[shell hazel]

I like the game but 1 account is plenty

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel playing friend’s account, clear hard whale 301

[shell hazel]

I'd rather play another game than two accounts

[polar valley]

Thats all

[shell hazel]

that's why I'm forming a guild in the new Arknights Endfield game with Rail when it launches

[polar valley]

The absolute team is fine already, but my R1 and R2 has a problem

[hollow lagoon]

I don’t got money for another gatcha

[shell hazel]

you can f2p a bit too 😄

you don't have to whale on em all

[hollow lagoon]

Nope

[shell hazel]

all in?

[hollow lagoon]

Ain’t doing it

I wish I played a 3d gatcha instead

[shell hazel]

do note you can switch to horizontal view means you need way less pics, useful for whoever is looking at them (in this case Railtracer)

[hollow lagoon]

But I’m in too deep with dis one

[placid bloom]

3D gacha you don't like anime boobies

[shell hazel]

he wants to play LADS

[hollow lagoon]

3D animu boobies are good

[polar valley]

I see.. hol on lemme resend

[shell hazel]

I'm guessing he means with actual 3d models like genshin etc

[hollow lagoon]

But I’m in too deep for dis one

[versed mesa]

I want a 4D Gacha

[shell hazel]

4D? 5D is where it's at

[placid bloom]

you can join me on WuWa, I started last week

[crystal flicker]

Life is 4D gacha

[hollow lagoon]

I been tempted, but nah

[shell hazel]

I didn't really get this either, if I'm playing the game I want to beat the bosses not let someone else do it, even if I'm copying someones strat/team comp

[crystal flicker]

I dont have time for another gacha

[shell hazel]

speaking of my aim for snek is to copy za warudo comp I got some work to do 😓

[worldly osprey]

That's problem. My noise just build cs. No atk so hard to noise get link if use 2 dps on team

[placid bloom]

your MAnchor is too skinny, not enough core

[shell hazel]

she needs building beyond cores 😄

she was SR-5 7/7/7 with no OL

[placid bloom]

she needs to eat her own omurice instead of feeding to you

[shell hazel]

that is an idea

I'm working on her next and more rolls for SW

[cunning crown]

Is your MC clear with ada still up

[shell hazel]

I took her to 7/10/9 so just doll and OL's to fix

[shell hazel]

I don't think I recorded/posted it only had result screen lol

[versed mesa]

My MAnchor is only one core from Mlb, really wondering if I should use the selector for it.

[magic dust]

Hey there, I’m looking for help to improve my defense team, if someone could give me some pointers.
I’m lacking Rumani, Noah, Centi and Peppers that I’m aware are well used in PvP, the rest I likely have though not necessarily well invested (including the new SW).

[shell hazel]

I was kind of done with that fight by the time I did it

[versed mesa]

Has been so good on Black Snake and Ziz

[hollow lagoon]

He wanted to have me try his normal ziz, cuz I spoke of the mythical 4 burst anchor timing, but I saw the hard whale and I went at it

[worn plinth]

They don't really fit my taste buds honestly, I only eat fish fingers (thats how its called in my language) otherwise not really

[shell hazel]

feels a bit wasteful if you're missing someone, can wishlist that last dupe

[cunning crown]

Nyooo

[tropic summit]

ok probably last question, does you vestiTU have 4%CS or more? (charge speed OL)

[cunning crown]

Will probably feel the same in a month though

[polar valley]

Yes, thats why my R3 is untouchable, but R1 and R2 have a huge problem

[placid bloom]

I wouldn't spend 6.6k gem on a dupe

it should only be for chars you are missing

[versed mesa]

Yeah that is why I'm not doing it yet, the Mlb probably won't help me as much atm anyway, need more overall CP for Ziz in Tribe tower

[nimble swan]

Lol and you voted on him.
Anyway I would probably have clapped you both
But shoo shoo, I’m only after that CN Nightmare. Next CA will be about retribution

[hollow lagoon]

depends on cook skill

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

Warudo has a clear with lib if yours can do the slippers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmOHAX0OGwg

mine could not I utterly failed to get any atk at all lol

[worn plinth]

No no, thats not how I meant it. I just don't even have the tendency alone to lower my finger over a fish. I just don't like how they taste in general

[shell hazel]

my lib is like 0 atk roll :9

[hollow lagoon]

That’s a massively bricked lib

[shell hazel]

it is

but her ele is decent enough to work

[hollow lagoon]

What did u try? 4 ele? Baited by the fake news?

[shell hazel]

just boss is elec weak not wind weak :d

[hollow lagoon]

Baited by fake news indeed

[placid bloom]

who will be lowest MC clear with SWHA

[shell hazel]

same as always I go for ele and atk

just she didn't roll any and ele was OK so I left it for now lol

[hollow lagoon]

Should go for attack and crit with splash of ele

[hollow lagoon]

Says he 0 atk roll, shows atk roll

[cunning crown]

[tropic summit]

ok so your R3 wins but the other 2 lose, let's focus on your R2 matchup, here you go (you're on the left)

since you lack moran/jackal/biscuit, we gonna need something that lets you survive p5 enemy SG pressure... the next thing you've is soline

[quartz rover]

Im trying to rookie to see who gets my indom but my team is destroying everything

[placid bloom]

go to shooting range

[quartz rover]

I saw swole white get it so I gave her a vigor cube but I cant see if it works

[placid bloom]

well actually I guess shooting range only do 1 dmg

[polar valley]

I have soline ticket though

[tropic summit]

this

[hollow lagoon]

She grown up yet

[shell hazel]

30 is rookie numbers 😄

[gaunt pulsar]

it's 2 easy checks

• who is linked to jackal by having higher attack>check in shooting range
• who out of linked units has lowest hp including jackal, should be at least a few thousands difference
  if no one in party outside of link gets damaged harder than linked units, your indom will land on lowest hp in the link

[shell hazel]

if you have ein and ada built then MC is mostly a case of just running those two with mast I think and you can do damage even if you can't break slippers

[tropic summit]

@polar valley since you asked me about soline i'm not sure you know which snow white we talking about in the pic, so to confirm it's this one

[polar valley]

So this will do?

[tropic summit]

make sure she's 7/7/7 with at least arm and legs OL'ed

[polar valley]

R2 power seems to be lower though... doable?

[tropic summit]

it won't, you're gapped in T2

that's a loss, build snow white HA

either that or you gonna need to move lib

[quartz rover]

OK I cooked this up

Still paddy but makes it 3rl now instead of 50rl

[polar valley]

Alright.. so for now its a tough opponent?

[tropic summit]

the problem is your box

your pvp units are lacking

[shell hazel]

if you gonna pad you may as well nayuta p1 so she can tank that team will die

[polar valley]

Yeah.. 😔 shit luck moment

[tropic summit]

it's not undoable, you need to break T1 though

[polar valley]

How to break T1?

[placid bloom]

any team that is not 2RL should be Biscuit tank or Nayuta

[quartz rover]

It's either pad or use very weak nikke and make this team the weakest

[tropic summit]

move SWHA instead of lib and lib instead of SWHA

[placid bloom]

I would rather use CP pad than 3RL def tbh

[tropic summit]

this should fix your CP problem

[placid bloom]

[shell hazel]

just keep 3rd team cp pad I reckon

[polar valley]

Noted

[shell hazel]

you can move to better teams later better to focus two good teams + cp pad

[quartz rover]

Should sbs or rh burst? Defense

[polar valley]

Like this?

[tropic summit]

cp looks good give it a shot

[polar valley]

Alright

[polar valley]

No luck.. although my T2 start the burst first..

[tropic summit]

wishlist jackal, biscuit, noise, rapunzel, trina
get helm treasured
build SWHA to 7/7/7 4OL R15-SR5

this will make your life a ton easier

looks like soline did her job tho, i see a lot of tanked and healed damage

it looks like lib didn't even get to B3?

[polar valley]

I have swha.. but only 1 OL, gotta invest for her more i guess
And i have helm but not treasured yet

[polar valley]

She get it, but afterwards, died

[tropic summit]

ye SWHA would've been faster nuke instead of lib that takes roughly 1RL to land

[polar valley]

Hm... got it.. but it seems my r3 still untouchable even after u told me to replace lib with Swha, interesting..

[tropic summit]

the core part of that team is emma vesti and eunwha

[polar valley]

Noted

[tropic summit]

your p1 nayuta is just a flex buffer and tank, p5 is burst gen battery and offburst dmg

if you had moran or noise, we could sub nayuta and put her in your other team, then you no longer need soline

[polar valley]

I see.. it seems soline did a great job though.. should i invest her more too?

[tropic summit]

she's currently your copium noise/moran/biscuit

as she prevents most units from dying pre burst

[polar valley]

I see

Damn it.. i wish i get any of them

So for now hawk team is just unbeatable for me?

[tropic summit]

no it's a strong early pressure team

most teams cannot live to 3RL or 2.5RL against that

if anything p1 p2 p3 are generally ded by then

[umbral belfry]

if I'm seeing this in using vesti on sight

[tropic summit]

@polar valley since we know soline works to keep you alive against SG pressure and we know lib needs to be p3 to survive splash, you could try this

[shell hazel]

we can't just siren the noah at p1 for team 1 Rail?

[polar valley]

I see.. hmm.. hes quite smart though.. because before that new formation he just made a change, his R3 supposed to be all strong unit
P1 noah
P2 biscuit
P3 thelm
P4 lib
P5 Jackal

[shell hazel]

is it a cp issue?

[tropic summit]

no CP is fixed by rotating lib around

i want to clear this with soline though

[shell hazel]

if t3 wins maybe something focus on siren the noah for p1? we have our own noah available as well

[tropic summit]

ye that's a biscuit locked sustain with offburst dps team

[low path]

https://tenor.com/view/cyberpunk-abbreviate-walter-white-hank-breaking-bad-gif-11609305132227978440

[polar valley]

like this?

[tropic summit]

ye looks good, let's see soline working her butt off to keep noah and drake alive

[polar valley]

Alright

Initiating

[tropic summit]

[polar valley]

R1 total loss

[tropic summit]

ye that's fodder dw

[polar valley]

R2 WON WOW

Ok, win

[tropic summit]

yeah that fixed it, soline is actually pretty cool

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/death-note-keikaku-dori-keikaku-dori-death-gif-19559967

[polar valley]

Thanks

[cunning crown]

[tropic summit]

ironically she can actually substitute your moran/noise/jackal until then

[polar valley]

Yea, y know what, fk them, imma invest soline

Fr thanks lol, u save my ass

[tropic summit]

eeeeeeeeeeh i'd still recommend wishlisting them at least

[polar valley]

Yea, for T1 right?

[tropic summit]

ye no worries, i'm not too familiar with soline yet so i didn't know she could carry that hard pre burst, good experience for me too

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/soline-soline-nikke-soline-frost-ticket-bell-ringing-ringing-gif-11033764228750989715

[tropic summit]

yeah you need those units for a 3rd good team

SWHA and helmT built will already drastically improve your power

biscuit and jackal would be cherry on top

[polar valley]

For now, i love that Absolute Team as long as nayuta sit there as a wall

[shell hazel]

I knew there was a reason I picked up soline over b.milk

[tropic summit]

ya pretty much

[shell hazel]

people doubted me but I had no doubt, it was always soline

[polar valley]

I mean... shes hot cutie too-

[tropic summit]

someone who can make any unit a pseudo moran pre burst? ye that's valuable

[shell hazel]

she's more cute than hot, too smol for me

[polar valley]

Idc about size, its still y know...

[shell hazel]

but I like her all the same

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/kobayashi-kanna-loli-police-dragon-gif-12823520

[polar valley]

[shell hazel]

I haven't had a chance to build her yet

[polar valley]

XD

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/fbi-open-up-open-up-fbi-raid-gif-17397897

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/rapid-response-team-police-fbi-anime-manga-gif-20615492

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/no-randy-jackson-dawg-gif-12730917

[polar valley]

Fr, thanks @tropic summit , bet this Hawk will Hawk Tuah after this

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/theyll-soon-be-back-greater-numbers-star-wars-obi-wan-kenobi-gif-5275166067737091139

[polar valley]

Hes quite smart i must say, gotta give him that

He split that 320k cp team to balance all team

[quartz rover]

You'd beat the padded team just as easily though

I swapped out siren, put in nayuta and made sbs the burst 3

[polar valley]

Because he knows if he keep up like this, i can still win 2/3

[quartz rover]

Spit on dat bitcoin

[tropic summit]

he should change his teams again now

you'll probably face something else soon

[polar valley]

Yea i bet he will for sure, me and him always fight

B2b

(Back 2 back)

[quartz rover]

@remote palm is your ign hawktuah? Maybe we can squash some beef

Realized their ign is just hawk and cant delete without ghost pinging

sorry bud

[umbral belfry]

[polar valley]

Oh, it was u? U that hawk guy?

[gaunt pulsar]

[umbral belfry]

no I was booing at the joke LMAO

[polar valley]

Oh 🤣

[umbral belfry]

[polar valley]

Was about to say "serves u right" 😭🙏

[umbral belfry]

[hybrid fox]

thx for whomever suggested siren p4

barely win btw

Triple win btw^

[tropic summit]

it was @worthy knoll iirc

[wild hemlock]

@valid inlet

1. Idk
2. Idk
3. Rng, if I stun rumani or blanc I win so slightly in your favor
4. Idk
5. Idk

There are my expert predictions

[shell hazel]

those aren't teams those are mobs

[placid bloom]

[shell hazel]

t1 - has no defence at all
t2 - weird scarlet team
t3 - biscuit locked attack = gg

[tropic summit]

show CP with these for starters

[tropic summit]

his problem is probably the 30 lvl synchro difference anyway

[shell hazel]

only if pvp stuff not built

if you're in cp range none of those look too difficult to me

[tropic summit]

T3 is clearly CP padded af

[placid bloom]

team 3 can Biscuit or Nayuta p5

[tropic summit]

T1 is partially padded

[shell hazel]

you can prob beat 3 even at a small deficit it will get stuck on biscuit lock p1/p5

[tropic summit]

yes vestiTU biscuit locked can do that

Dair and BigBoi abuse vestiTU on 25%+ deficit all time

[shell hazel]

bro has core max nayuta so is not messing around

spender for sure

[tropic summit]

all his units are high core

[placid bloom]

what if his SAnis proc so fat it can one-shot at deficit

[shell hazel]

core 5 SBS

spends more than I do

[tropic summit]

we actually had that happen

[shell hazel]

biscuit doko?

[tropic summit]

assemble the teams i gave you pls so i can get benchmark for CP

[hollow lagoon]

i was summoned

[shell hazel]

just assemble rail teams to start with

my highest core pilgrim is rapi c5 and is mostly because she randomly kept showing up lol

[hollow lagoon]

rapi pilgrim?

[shell hazel]

I had no real plans to dupe her beyond mlb

[hollow lagoon]

when did u hack SU

[shell hazel]

oh yeah, you know what I mean, 1% pilgrim style 😛

[hollow lagoon]

is that why you ahve better rolls then me all the time?

[shell hazel]

I wish

rail and hime eats all my rocks all I have is crumbs

[placid bloom]

Rapi got kick out of harem and become homeless pilgrim

[shell hazel]

another 100 rocks on sw to get her rolls good easily

[placid bloom]

[hollow lagoon]

witness my 2 ele sbs

[shell hazel]

fix her

[hollow lagoon]

no

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-yes-gif-21160558

[hollow lagoon]

CS> ele anyway

[tropic summit]

depends

on snowhite? nah
on vestiTU? oh ye

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

where do you see rumani in T3

i guess moran and rumani are the same person?

it's just helmt that i need to benchmark

you need 893k for T2, out
you need 972k for T3, out

ye still out

show CP for T1 for reference

(enemy T1)

not much better than T3 and considerd it's even more difficult scrap that

you gonna need to fight both T2 and T3 on deficit it seems

one for sure is gonna need to be biscuit locked

T2 only has p1 damage so nayuta could do

you're lucky they're at best 2.5RL in T2

now then let's see what abominations we need to make for this

[shell hazel]

or we're in deficit so we

I think that is sometimes the best idea 😄

if you take it you likely can't hold it

use boxes efficiently more for campaign push than arena imo

461 is your next target

[tropic summit]

assemble these

[shell hazel]

if 461 lets you move more in campaign could be worth considering, depends where you are stuck

[hollow lagoon]

just get 581 and beat him up

[tropic summit]

they should both do ok in deficit

[shell hazel]

let's see how that looks

[hollow lagoon]

not suciding scarlet into a rosana+lib nuke?

[tropic summit]

28% deficit

[tropic summit]

invert jackal with moran

[hollow lagoon]

oh no rosa let me fix

[tropic summit]

nayuta jackal cindy helmt SWHA
noah biscuit vestiTU RH moran

[hollow lagoon]

for t3

[tropic summit]

he's dead before he can breath with that, you didn't look at his box

[hollow lagoon]

nayuta will still till burst

and then will be a lib nuke

[tropic summit]

and do no dmg because he's over 25% deficit

[tropic summit]

lib is dead, all buffs lost

run these and record

[hollow lagoon]

how tho,, u burst before they do

[tropic summit]

lib needs to be alive

[hollow lagoon]

lib needs to get killed some how

[tropic summit]

he dies to autos genius

[hollow lagoon]

nayuta?

[tropic summit]

look. at. his. box.

[hollow lagoon]

he no nayuta?

[tropic summit]

enemy team is on the right

[hollow lagoon]

ye

moment scarlet dies trigger rosa to burst either nayu or trina then into lib

and enemy auto nayuta

[tropic summit]

with that team he's on beyond 30% deficit

liberalio isn't vestiTU, her damage drops

and she needs to be alive

[hollow lagoon]

skill issue then

[tropic summit]

that team is dead within seconds to auto

you're just not used to deal with deficit

and you're not looking at his box

[hollow lagoon]

my comment is get a better box

[tropic summit]

didn't even kill siren

invest in your pvp or just plain give up, aint killing that

noah and biscuit aren't maxed for example

[tropic summit]

and try get more lines on vesti, she's not in 1st or 2nd line

[shell hazel]

461 jump if it helps with campaign is my rec 😄

[urban mulch]

the biggest kicker looks like Noah stun to me, if she didnt get stunned you had a chance

[hollow lagoon]

can still try my comp for t3 for lulz

[tropic summit]

considered it was 26% deficit you still got fairly close, more atk% on vestiTU might do too... but honestly if you hit 461 then you're set

[shell hazel]

can you get to 461 and does it help you in other areas?

[tropic summit]

vestiTU is your best anti gap unit, especially if buffed

[hollow lagoon]

u can try to yeet mirrior container at 461 and get 102 core dust

[tropic summit]

the other anti gap is cindy which you saw worked fine

[placid bloom]

Biscuit p2 into LapT

I think you need to put a sacrificial p2

[tropic summit]

both her stacks were used on noah and moran anyway

[placid bloom]

I guess

[tropic summit]

she served her purpose

problem is lack of lethal

[placid bloom]

his SAnis actually too fat

[hollow lagoon]

@cloud pagoda ur competition is prob having fun with 102 core dust while ur eating 93

[placid bloom]

just kill with proc right after Vesti burst

[shell hazel]

MC is doable at 461 but it's tight and needs specific builds

[tropic summit]

and they didn't burst yet

[shell hazel]

if you don't have them best wait for 481 and new chapters

[hollow lagoon]

new chapter feb ish?

[placid bloom]

wait no

[hollow lagoon]

unless they do a delay

[placid bloom]

they did burst, that was Nayuta palm

[tropic summit]

i meant when he bursted

3RL vs 4RL

[shell hazel]

end of feb roughly

[tropic summit]

your defense is fine

doesn't look like they ever broke it

just built your noah and biscuit and add atk% to vestiTU

then you could probably anti gap on deficit

dropping from 26% to 22% would already be a big help

no problemo

[placid bloom]

it's actually kinda close, I can see Nayuta palm falling as Vesti burst is still resolving

[tropic summit]

tbh a bit more atk% or less gap and he's lethal, problem solved

[hollow lagoon]

might hit 601 then

[high stream]

Can I ask how I should handle cubes for my pvp lineup? All cubes you cant see are Rank 4.

[shell hazel]

34-25 is the current benchmark for 102 cd/hour

[placid bloom]

probably need more ele dmg

to kill Mermaid

[shell hazel]

with the new chapters in feb this will be 32- something prob

[tropic summit]

moran temp
noah temp
helmt any
SW any
RH any

jackal quantum
rumani quantum
vesti temp
blanc temp
centi quantum

siren temp
crown any
alice any
rrh any
sbs any

(move siren to p3 or p4, she's your only b1)

[placid bloom]

cuz nobody else on that team is really doing damage

RH shooting p5 and Moran Noah can't help

[hollow lagoon]

how are peopel still using alice

[placid bloom]

so Vesti has to solo Mermaid

[tropic summit]

it's a padded team

[shell hazel]

look at his sync prob cp related

you have these glasses on where sync and things don't matter but for most people it's slow as balls lol

[high stream]

Tyvm. Also, for third team .. any way I can improve that team without losing too much CP? I have all PvP relevant Nikke except Emilia. Although I'd prefer to avoid fully building another one.

[shell hazel]

then they have not hit 102 cd/hour yet either

[hollow lagoon]

338 sync should stopped padding like 261 ish

[shell hazel]

no chance, I was padding into the 300's a bit and I was actively building stuff

[tropic summit]

i see nayuta scarlet lib cindy laplaceT drakeT available... you could work with that for minimal CP lose but way faster burst

[placid bloom]

I see Scar Trina but the CP looks low

[high stream]

Gotcha. Tyvm.

[hollow lagoon]

i stopped the pad 250 ish

[high stream]

Is that the team formation as well, in that order?

[shell hazel]

but you have no challengers really, haven't had any for a long time prob

[hollow lagoon]

nope, i was 2nd highest sync back when 250

[shell hazel]

the only way you will is if they isekai someone in who spends as much

[hollow lagoon]

highest was 255

[tropic summit]

nayuta lib drakeT siren laplaceT

[high stream]

My bracket is like .. hyper competitive, they spend gems even at a loss to maintain their ranks. And some people here are using 700-800K campaign teams. There is 3 whales that have like 30-50% more CP than EVERYONE ELSE. So I'm not sure if a third pvp team here is better than using my highest cp team.

[shell hazel]

200-300 sync was a weird time anyway, a lot of lacking units and builds

people still finding their footing in those sync ranges

[hollow lagoon]

600 gem a day to maintain #2 back then

[placid bloom]

200-300 most people are still investing campaign

[high stream]

Drops by 100K CP .. but no cubes yet. And maybe I can do some more investing.
What cubes for this team?

[placid bloom]

nobody has spare rock to spend on PvP battery

[hollow lagoon]

ya but he post 300 now

[tropic summit]

nayuta any
lib temp
drake any
siren any
laplace quantum/any

[high stream]

Tyvm.

[hollow lagoon]

i was stuck at mother whale till 348 so i OLed a good amount of pvp units that time

now days mother whale folds 300 ish tho

SWHA +nayuta yikes dead whaley

[high stream]

I dont have enough quantum/Tempering cubes .. what do I do in that case? Just go with my highest level cube to pad?

[tropic summit]

ye

[hollow lagoon]

check unit ammo

[high stream]

Can u elaborate

[hollow lagoon]

and slot cube accordingly

if ur alice have 10 ammo slot bastion

if ur alice have less than 10 slot wingman

if ur mg cant shoot for 10 seconds without bastion slot bastion

[high stream]

Hmmm, I dont fully understand the logic. A resource I can read? Unless u want to fully explain what's going on there

[high stream]

I'd like learn/understand myself

[hollow lagoon]

u want unintrrupted damage

[high stream]

Ah. And if ammo is too low, damage will be interrupted?

[hollow lagoon]

inotherwords if u reload during the fight ur gimped

[high stream]

Ah, I see.

So cube helps with ammo, offering more shots, meaning it wont interrupt as fast

[hollow lagoon]

meaning u dont stop dealing damage

[high stream]

And wingman offers percent ammo .. which one gives more 'real' ammo?

I guess it highly depends on the magazine of the nikke .. but generally?

[hollow lagoon]

cube/ol line specific

[high stream]

of course

[hollow lagoon]

hence u check

dont invest wingman tho that thing falls off flat

like if ur 1-2 batteries from leveling maybe

but otherwise leave it alone

adjutant also falls off past 5 i think?

asist cube is derpy, i have no comment but i aint touching it

[high stream]

Hmm, I see. I'm trying to get resilience to max right now
Not sure if I should invest into pvp cubes .. maybe a little bit at least.
Considering im Rank 11 .. stable since 3 months and am definitely capable of contesting up to Rank 6

Above rank 6 .. in this bracket, impossible. Mostly cause of the 3 whales up there

[hollow lagoon]

resilience max why are u in pvp chat

[high stream]

lmao

[hollow lagoon]

tempering to 7 right now

[high stream]

Really?

I was told multiple times to proritize resilience over pvp

even in here before

[hollow lagoon]

dis place dont belong to resil maxers

lies

[high stream]

I didnt get union currency yet

[hollow lagoon]

resil/bastion/destruction 9/9/9

[high stream]

So I could use that 10k or whatever to put some in tempering

[hollow lagoon]

i'm trying to cheese only one with destruction cube right now its half working

[tropic summit]

yes get resi to 10 or 11 first, pve/campaign matters more than pvp that's why you were told that

[high stream]

yes, i recall it was something like that

[tropic summit]

tempering is for when you're comfy to invest in pvp

[hollow lagoon]

i went tempering 7 when my resil is 8

[high stream]

i mean, i dont think i'll lose rank 11, no one can beat me thats below me, i see them keep failing

But i eventually would like to push for top 10 and stabilize it

[hollow lagoon]

in my opnion resil uc an stop at 8 then raise other cubes then back to resil

[high stream]

which means i gotta go to war with one of the guys above me

[hollow lagoon]

post 8 the bonuses are so small

[high stream]

Yeah

Which is even right now .. it wouldnt be worth it for me to push top 10, cause these people spend gems at a loss

I'd have to make sure .. I can hold it.

[hollow lagoon]

i ment cube level

[wintry viper]

@tropic summit how is SWHA in PvP?

[tropic summit]

SS or SSS tier

[hollow lagoon]

pull

[wintry viper]

what's her team comp?

[hollow lagoon]

how is swha not SSS

[placid bloom]

it depends how much you want to pad your campaign team with res cube but eventually cube CP don't really make a big diff

[tropic summit]

noah biscuit SWHA flex flex
jackal SWHA flex blanc flex
glass cannon (nayuta centi swha RH flex)

[quick lake]

she is

[tropic summit]

SSS on attack
SS on def, cuz water code

rosanna needs to sneeze and she's ded when you attack her

[quick lake]

from prydwen tierlist at least

Yeah, the water code can be annoying

[hollow lagoon]

ur just racist to water code

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/nope-leaving-yuru-yuri-anime-gjb93-gif-14614005

[hollow lagoon]

elect code's not even the beeg threat now days

[placid bloom]

nobody believe in 2.2RL Moran Bay Nero

[tropic summit]

that's what your helm said yesterday when i sticked my big huge ||rosanna ||in her

[hollow lagoon]

1 team out of 5

[tropic summit]

oh you meant CA, i don't really consider that for tierlist

CA makes tierlist meaningless because it's pure RNG

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

your team can go from SSS to C rank based on the matchup RNG

[placid bloom]

imagine SW 1 shot hit 3 Jackal link and eat 7 Scar proc at once

[hollow lagoon]

its the only game mode that gets me excited at the moment

[tropic summit]

its the only game mode you can play because noone can hit you*

[hollow lagoon]

they can hit me the just dont want to

lifestyle choices

[tropic summit]

you already know the harsh truth

https://tenor.com/view/sakuta-azusagawa-mai-sakurajima-seishun-buta-yarou-wa-bunny-girl-senpai-no-yume-wo-minai-rascal-does-not-dream-head-pat-gif-11620612559245250700

[tropic summit]

you saw the lad earlier on 26% deficit how he ended up

that's what your opponents face too

[hollow lagoon]

leaving me here without testing ground and all i can do is theory weird shit in my brain for ca and endds up cursed

[tropic summit]

but worse

[hollow lagoon]

its only double that deficit they can overcome it

@proven mauve can take me at 461

[tropic summit]

wrong hippo tagged

[hollow lagoon]

his name too hard

[tropic summit]

skill issue

[hollow lagoon]

what is it now EncouragedHippos?

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel

[hollow lagoon]

or EncoumberedHippos

EnlightenedHippos

EngagedHippos

[placid bloom]

EncounterHippos

[hollow lagoon]

EncephalitisHippos

who else here remember when he was just HungryHippos

[quick lake]

[placid bloom]

nope he was always challenger

you remember wrong

no HungryHippos here, only angry red hippos

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-park-shade-big-pile-of-shit-jeff-goldblum-gif-15372128

[tropic summit]

delta propaganda again

[lusty gull]

[cunning crown]

damn he was so wholesome and innocent then

[tropic summit]

will we ever have a raid without cindy?

[placid bloom]

she is pretty close to getting kicked on neutral

[hollow lagoon]

supposed to be with out, prydwen downgraded her ranking recently, but i dont got infinite resources

[placid bloom]

[tropic summit]

uh interesting

[placid bloom]

but Doro Priv in 2026 is brave tech

[hollow lagoon]

prydwen want me to roll a half baked 4/4/4 bready with no OL in place of cindy i'm sorry that's delusional

[placid bloom]

on no parts boss too

unless Only One spawns count as part

[hollow lagoon]

it does

i break horn with destruction cube, without destruction i cant touch it

u heathens not believeing in the red cube of justice is your skill issue

privity is in the comp just for attack boost to begin with

only have to check if dorothy can old up position of liter

[hollow lagoon]

rail=pvp lord

rail=tove

post things with tove=pvp

[tropic summit]

there are exceptions i'm willing to overlook

[placid bloom]

but f2p cannot bikini

only baseball allowed

[wintry viper]

@tropic summit which teams should i use for SP Arena Defense?

[tropic summit]

where's your nayuta?

oh found her

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta centi/trina helmt rh laplacet
• jackal vestiTU drakeT blanc trina/centi
• noise noah SWHA emilia siren

[hollow lagoon]

ok then

liter is out, especilly when doro gets simped by black smith slowed on 5bursts and, and missed 1-2 bursts

[wintry viper]

Team 1 and 2 both have Centi

[tropic summit]

trina/centi/rumani interchangable, just read what i typed

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/i-was-born-to-win-i-got-this-i-can-do-this-determined-fast-and-furious-spy-racers-gif-15818248

[wintry viper]

oh apologies, i was just looking at the image, thank you

[valid inlet]

Ahhh nice meeting you again Boop

[high stream]

While I'm here.. what is like .. the best Rookie Arena defense u can set up?

Do we have a single 'strongest' team?

[merry knot]

any recommendation against this team?

[tropic summit]

rosanna available?

[tropic summit]

there's no such thing, pick any 2RL from here #pvp-arena message

[high stream]

Well, since we got SW now .. and mine is built to the gills.
What would that team look like and what would be the formation for it?

[tropic summit]

jackal SWHA flex blanc flex (2RL)

[high stream]

Aight.

[tropic summit]

pick w/e you've more invested of these

[valid inlet]

@wild hemlock
My guess:

1. I think I win?
2. My Vesti needs to crit hard and kill Moran soon enough, rng
3. I lose if Blanc is stunned, Our b1 should happen arround the same time
4. rng
5. rng (defense SG has slightly better chance I guess?)

A lot of rngs lol, it would be a fun fight

[merry knot]

thanks i was trying to fit one with rosanna but the cp wont do haha

[tropic summit]

you need 1672k to not be in deficit

[merry knot]

what was the math to calculate the CP?

[tropic summit]

enemy CP multiplied for 0.846

your team CP must be higher than the value you obtain

[merry knot]

thanks i tried the third team first thinking it could work haha vesti is a monster hahaha

[shell hazel]

sun dried tomato salad failed

@hollow lagoon noooo

[tropic summit]

it's heavy invest dependant afterall

[tropic summit]

that's fine your moran needs to be pretty thick for that to work against properly invested indom vesti

[merry knot]

indeed

[shell hazel]

if not this then slower indom/rapi indom should be good but may need some tweaking

[tropic summit]

some others won with the usual scar indom too

probably dependant on reload window though

not a fan of mirror indoms

[merry knot]

yeah same not fan of mirrors haha still i can work with some of the ideas i just need to invest more on my units

thanks

[tropic summit]

you welcome

[merry knot]

the sad part is that i just simple cant fight this other guy i dont reach the CP required with any decent team haha

[shell hazel]

Sonic is simply too fast

https://tenor.com/view/gotta-go-fast-sonic-the-hedgehog-fast-speed-motion-blur-gif-18342829

[merry knot]

indeed back then he was around 40 levels behind me but now i am the one 20 levels behind haha

[tidal lichen]

you can gamble with mihara

[merry knot]

ohhh a dot team

[hollow lagoon]

[tidal lichen]

mihara blanc rumani bisc flex

[merry knot]

never tought about that sounds interesting

[tidal lichen]

just make sure flex isnt a defender so bisc goes to blanc rumani

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel sync diffed?

[haughty mortar]

Yo rail, has ash gotten a upgrade?

[tropic summit]

ask him why me?

[haughty mortar]

Coz u da pvp god

[tidal lichen]

noah vesti might win asw if siren isnt linked