pvp-arena

[swift mango]

It should be That hard stage in h36 I cleared with Vesti+Crown+RH+Rapipi+Ada

not ch35.

[worn ridge]

Yeah its. Iron weak i remember i literally won a similar one with bunny soda

[keen vapor]

On burst she makes volleyballs go crazier in milliseconds

[versed mesa]

SBS has been my holy grail for virtually every stage with volleyballs

[keen vapor]

That was on wind weak, 35 isn't

[swift mango]

Just kill the volleyball on burst. or cover if it go crazy and not killed.

[keen vapor]

Tried, milliseconds won't allow it

[swift mango]

You could clear iron weak with SBS as well.

[swift mango]

But I did

on phone

[keen vapor]

And cover from 3 kills me anyways

[swift mango]

kill 2 with rapipi nuke. Or just SBS it

[quartz canopy]

you need the screenwide slash to clear the balls

just normal slash won't clear it if your cp is not high enough

[swift mango]

just use SBS.

[quartz canopy]

yea I mean SBS's screenwide slash when in burst mode

[swift mango]

I cleared at 516, Idk about echocho synch but should be higher

[quartz canopy]

it's quite rng if you ask me

I remember clearing it with SBS and red hood b1 too at lvl 501

[swift mango]

I remember 1 stage in hard 35, I cleared the ball or silencer then just cover the high dmg volley, Could be that one.

@keen vapor

[quartz canopy]

now I'm stuck at chp 36 boss waiting for lvl 521

planning to try snow white over bready for that boss and see

[swift mango]

I stuck at that boss waiting to pull and build Maid anchor.

[quartz canopy]

what's your synchro level?

[swift mango]

516, but could be 535 if I wanted to.

[quartz canopy]

at 541 it will prob be a lot easier that you could make do without maid anchor

I say prob because I haven't actually tried the boss

[versed mesa]

I wish I could remember what I was at when I beat it, I didn't have maid anchor Thelm burst was enough to outheal the damage, but I think I was higher synchro

[swift mango]

lowest level is around 521 in the clear.

[placid bloom]

Rouge B1

new tech

[swift mango]

could use use rapipi b1

who the heck have Rouge sr15 101010 and cp pad?

[placid bloom]

I don't think it needs to be that high, her max HP increase is higher than MMast after ramp

[swift mango]

Oh wait, you mean Rouge b1 for H36 boss? In that case idk

[quartz canopy]

there's a clear on youtube with rogue b1 yea

[placid bloom]

Rouge SWHA Helm

[shell hazel]

[swift mango]

Still need investment for the CP though

[quartz canopy]

yea and need SR15 doll too

[placid bloom]

I don't think doll adds much CP at that sync, it mostly depends on your OL

if you get unlucky 1 liner on all 4 piece

[swift mango]

Doll CP multiple by synch level ofc.

[quartz canopy]

it doesn't add much cp but it does give damage taken reduction iirc

[swift mango]

[lunar pawn]

higher doll increases your odds of survival due to its increased effects too

[swift mango]

Plus tempering

I'm still in

My crappy Nero team did badly though.

[upper grove]

it works

[umbral crown]

[upper grove]

just needs 2 MG for heads

[swift mango]

mg Heal what?

[upper grove]

for snake heads

[quartz canopy]

what is the trick to defeat the heads again?

I know you need distributed damage but I don't know what other way is there

[upper grove]

hit count if not using distributed dmg

[quartz canopy]

ah ok

[swift mango]

[upper grove]

SWHA is much higher dmg than sdoro (no core) + no need to build bready

[swift mango]

I didn't even get to 2nd heads.
And how are you synch 521 already to clear it?

[shell hazel]

501 clear

[upper grove]

I cleared at 501

[quartz canopy]

wtf, I need to try that too

[cunning crown]

[shell hazel]

is my next goal

[swift mango]

Even 501 is still pretty high level. Tell me which event did you started again?

[shell hazel]

@hollow lagoon evil!

[swift mango]

You clear with maid anchor right?

[upper grove]

1 week prior to EVA 1.0

[upper grove]

yes both maids

[swift mango]

Paid player?

[upper grove]

look at SWHA dmg diff same fight timings basically

mmast

[quartz canopy]

how many hours did it take you? last time I did chp32 it took me 12 hours

[upper grove]

spending for pulls, some pull bundles have core dust boxes but I never buy just core dust

[swift mango]

Guess that explained the low level clear but you buy box and gem claim no?

[umbral belfry]

@dense kindle looks like another top 8

[upper grove]

~3-5h? less than behemoth mald

[swift mango]

Yeah, that's enough to get some levels.

[hybrid fox]

(siren scar lost)
team 2 might win
team 3 is new, can I get some new atk team ideas for the above to coujnter?

[quartz canopy]

aight, I'll try that tomorrow too, thank you for the strat

[hybrid fox]

last try was too close

[upper grove]

it's still RNG during triple heads

[swift mango]

Why try so hard to mald and level up when you don't even go for CA.

[upper grove]

without crown you have to pray

[quartz canopy]

what kind of rng?

[upper grove]

I like malding because I get to play the game

[umbral crown]

Waos

[quartz canopy]

yea, only reason I mald in hard chapter is to push CA

[umbral crown]

[upper grove]

boss can nuke 1 character while rest stays at full hp

[shell hazel]

plus you've got to lead me through the bosses

[umbral crown]

Nani

[swift mango]

Mald for the sake of malding is plenty but push level fast is mostly for SpA.

[grand plaza]

Mind giving a bit more detail? Like how where siren is matters?

I am planning to use with Rumani but by the time she burst and attacks become a bit too late for Siren stun

[shell hazel]

gem income from SPA is very good I'd say this is better reason than CA

being in CA is just a byproduct of sync

[upper grove]

that's another perk I guess

[umbral crown]

Or investment

[quartz canopy]

ah yea my bad I meant SPA not CA

[swift mango]

Yeah, but if you are spending for pull anyways. 300 more gem is just nothing.

[shell hazel]

guy who is 3rd in my SPA has garbage invests but malds campaign and therefore still gets top 3 and CA

sync always wins here

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

But my invest is good but i rarely do pve things

[shell hazel]

I consider it a subsidy for my other spending lol

[swift mango]

Well, if you invest and mald then that guy could only eat dust.

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

You also have some arena invested.

[shell hazel]

I use the SPA gems to wipeout and refresh dispatches

[upper grove]

for us it was highest prio to get past MC for 102 cd/h asap to stay ahead

[umbral crown]

[upper grove]

MC down at 462, behemoth 483, snake 501

[hybrid fox]

😭 always have to ask for help here cuz whales

[swift mango]

For SpA gem/bully

[umbral crown]

You are the wheel here

[hybrid fox]

fellas maybe some help would be grateful cuz i know nothing about SW alt besides crazy burst gen

[upper grove]

more gems to wipeout, I use 120 for that daily

[shell hazel]

yeah is part of it but tbh I didn't do much lately and my earlier invests still mostly valid so I can keep top SPA spot

[swift mango]

Wipe so you could bully in SpA. Because you don't play arena.

[dense kindle]

lets gooo!!

[shell hazel]

other reason is to simply actually get through the stages before the end of time

I just like to keep the sync flowing without whaling on dust

[quartz canopy]

so wiping out is worth the gems?

[shell hazel]

my spending prob similar to warudo's mostly packs/skins some have cd in them

[swift mango]

To be frank, you would be merged into more hard core bracket sooner or later... And your CP won't be enough to hold those guys that malding Campaign and 60 levels over you.

[upper grove]

I had to mald because my old SP bracket had 3 synch and pull whales, ~40-60 lvls ahead or so. current bracket I have not been hit once since shuffle

[shell hazel]

imo yes to a point - depends how f2p you are

[quartz canopy]

pure f2p

[shell hazel]

f2p I'd say free + 50 is OK

[umbral crown]

But my cp is similar to a 520 boi and im 476

[umbral belfry]

[hybrid fox]

am not, if u see how much I am bullied

[lunar pawn]

p1 to p3 to get taunted afaik, otherwise she focuses on your p1, if you have noise+noah, you gotta make sure your noah is faster than noise in CS, so that taunt priority goes to noise

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

low spender who buys gem pack for 100 gems each day could do free +50 + 70/100

[hybrid fox]

sooooo plz helpu me

[shell hazel]

honestly they're totally slacking on pvp invests with that much sync gap if they didn't you'd be in deficit for sure

[swift mango]

Similar CP mostly can't def. Especially 521 whale who use low CP teams because their synch higher than rest of the bracket already... But 541 should be normal for f2p in your bracket.

[umbral crown]

You have soda built?

[umbral crown]

Only 541 is a dolphin in my bracket, rest are 481+ , some 501 but nothing to worry about

[swift mango]

Oh wait you are 476?
You should be 80 level below already if your F2P guys in your bracket mald campaign.

[umbral crown]

I just recently got to 32-30 hard but they passed MC long time ago

[hybrid fox]

some what

[swift mango]

And gem claim 50-70 ofc

[grand plaza]

[umbral crown]

I never do that uwu

[umbral crown]

Let me try to think somethin for you

You also got SWHA ?

[swift mango]

Try to clear MC for 102 then start gem claim

[shell hazel]

your ein should be good to go at least

[umbral crown]

But according to a post i saw, i need to clear some stage in chap 34 to get 102

[shell hazel]

34-25

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

if you can beat MC it's reachable imo

[glad meteor]

Just push ez

[umbral crown]

Too much mald, i will wait some more chaps

[glad meteor]

You can push my campaign, i get so bored doing it

[radiant coral]

does anyone here know if Snow White HA gets taunted by Noah and Noise?

[umbral crown]

My electric need more ele, specially cindy

[hybrid fox]

untrained

[umbral crown]

Have not touch her in a while

[glad meteor]

[lavish leaf]

not the aoe

[swift mango]

MC you need to manual or you won't even be able to clear even at 521

[umbral crown]

manual...

581 it is then

[swift mango]

But could wait for new chapter for 102.

[umbral crown]

[radiant coral]

alr thanks

[swift mango]

It's not that hard at high level. It's just shooting the 4 mirror poke out during phase 2 when it charging making loud sound with charge shoots from Ada or Ein, even Cindy with enough buff while everyone else taking cover.

[swift mango]

Even F2P could do 50(+70)

[hybrid fox]

I want cindy to touch me

[swift mango]

You should be able to do it at 501/521. 481 is a bit harder so could just wait. 461 is for malders.

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-goddess-of-victory-cinderella-little-mermaid-siren-punch-gif-8275090892711293519

There she touched you.

[grand plaza]

My last cook

Idk why I ignored Trina, she doesn't want much investment anyway.

Last team I believe Noah will die since she only has r15 doll no OL, so Rapunzel can respawn her and burst and hopefully gg.

[swift mango]

P1-2 she stun taunter on hit like Noah, Noise.
P3 she stun p1.
Taunt all could taunt her too.

[umbral crown]

For team 2 tell me the cp of:

Noise/Noah/Cinderella/Emilia/Laplace

Team 1 change siren for RH

[grand plaza]

Damn.. good to know

[umbral crown]

Makes sense

<@&946725432554836008>

[hollow lagoon]

[vapid lake]

the kind man trying to help me earn some money got deleted

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

Yeah I got 2500$ from them.

Just need to spend 420$ to redeem

[vapid lake]

How will i have the money to whale on ananta now

[umbral crown]

Blood gonna wheel gacha skin

[swift mango]

Give me 420$ so I could redeem my 2500$.

[umbral crown]

Thas the money for next half anni gacha skin, passes and collab skin

[grand plaza]

Can nikke.top calculate cindy p1-p2 feed?

[umbral crown]

Imagine we get re zero rerun and i do not have money for emi gacha skin

[hybrid fox]

dies

[umbral crown]

[hybrid fox]

2120395

[hybrid fox]

love of my life

[umbral crown]

With RH in team 1 you are naturally 2 RL, enemy is at much 2.5 , you should be fine . Buffing scar enough should do the trick

Your noise can tank till burst?

[hybrid fox]

not 100% sure

maybe dangerous I believe

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel @cunning crown

[umbral crown]

[hybrid fox]

wanna try?

[umbral crown]

Zael knows spanish

[umbral crown]

I would but thats up to you

2 rl noah cindy beats those kind of scar rosanna trina teams

[hybrid fox]

wanna switch noah > noise?

[umbral crown]

If you trust your noah, sure

[umbral crown]

Saving for 3.5 nikke?

[hybrid fox]

yes

how did u know

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/imagination-spongebob-squarepants-dreams-magic-gif-12725683

[hybrid fox]

jackal core 6!

[cunning crown]

Which of us has teams better positioned to take out chinese nayuta in top 8

[umbral crown]

[hollow lagoon]

No clue I voted you

[cunning crown]

Based but I voted you

[umbral crown]

Tell him: no se, tu dime

[cunning crown]

[hollow lagoon]

[umbral crown]

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/jersey-shore-pauly-d-vinny-guadagnino-bromance-sweet-gif-15884249727946132456

[tropic summit]

still too vulnerable t2 and t3

[hybrid fox]

I think noise didnt tank it
also team 3 lost

1st team win tho

maybe biscuit to team 2?

[umbral crown]

something like this in team 2?

[tame vessel]

Is sw burst in pvp good

[hybrid fox]

sw not yet built

[umbral crown]

@glad meteor rail gonna avenge you

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

those teams aren't even aware why they're winning

@grand plaza (edited, fixed positioning)

the way i see it you could go for 2 good teams and a slow cindy team filler for the time being

[umbral crown]

4-1 tho

[tropic summit]

first time i see my SG team win any matchup

[umbral crown]

first win of my weird cook

[tropic summit]

oof slow cindy got libbed

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

and he misindom no wonder

[umbral crown]

killed centi and they lost gen, by the time scarlet was bursting soda burst killed them

if defending my chances are high

[umbral crown]

[worthy sedge]

i found this team online but my bay is completely uninvested and i don't wanna invest, who could I replace her with?

[tropic summit]

i suppose the goal of that team was having an anti nuke regardless of noah being alive or stunned

just add a spare b1 and move noah to p5

[worthy sedge]

i am too dumb to tell you i just found some templates for good teams and I wanna refresh my roster a bit

[umbral crown]

i see

[tropic summit]

this partially retains the logic of that team

[umbral crown]

so you tried noah p1 instead noise?

[worthy sedge]

i put rumani in that spot, hope it's good?

[tropic summit]

did you make the team i gave you?

noise rumani SWHA ada Noah

[worthy sedge]

oh That one no oops

[tropic summit]

if you keep noah in p1 that team is dead in the water

[worthy sedge]

I did the first thing u told me

[tropic summit]

which is?

[worthy sedge]

nvm, i did the second team

[hybrid fox]

not yet

[worthy sedge]

but now another team I had with Ada lost her 😭

[hybrid fox]

u mean mine?

[worthy sedge]

nah he was referring to mine i think

[hybrid fox]

Rosy is to me ok

just that it was incidentally same for Noah p1 hahaha

[tropic summit]

that team is fine as long as noah can survive to 2RL against those autos from enemy team

in general it's prefered you've noise p1, but you can split tank scarlet with your 2nd taunter

[worthy sedge]

so now what do I do with them?

[hybrid fox]

noise (prob) died and lost

[umbral crown]

but have you ever tried noise p1?

she should be able to survive till burst

[tropic summit]

noise on SR15 with temperance should not die against that before 2RL B1

[hybrid fox]

yes I lost

well s he did haha... wanna try noah?

[tropic summit]

run her with temperance

[hybrid fox]

she has, lv10 tmepering

[tropic summit]

noah has even less HP and DR than noise does pre burst

run that team with biscuit then

[hybrid fox]

that's what I thought to

[worthy sedge]

help here please im absolutely Terrible at pvp teambuilding

[tropic summit]

ada is flex offburst buffer, any RL or SR unit that keeps that team 2RL is fine

use this and assemble the team that gives you 2RL
https://nikke-deck.web.app/

[worthy sedge]

so im looking for the 2RL number to have 100% or more, right?

[tropic summit]

yes, here's an example

it has to be a B1 or B3, if you place a B2 it will prevent noah from casting, which is what you don't want

aim for a B3 that offers something to the team even if she doesn't burst

it can be added DPS or passives, ensure it's an RL or SR class so you don't feed bullets

[worthy sedge]

oke, i put a Treasure laplace

[tropic summit]

ye that's perfect, good choice

[worthy sedge]

yey!

[fair pivot]

Is 2RL noah weak to siren without noise?

[tropic summit]

depends on positioning of the units

noah p1 will get stunned by siren in any position if she's taunt priority and team does not have 11CS% team wide

noah p2-p3-p4-p5 will get stunned only if siren is tauntable, meaning she has to be p1 or p2, conditions above then applies

[umbral crown]

@shell hazel still doing the thing

[hybrid fox]

biscuit > laplace?

[tropic summit]

that's my dolphin rival in SP arena

[umbral crown]

[fair pivot]

Hmm... So Rumani Noah Biscuit will stun rumani? after she bursts?

[umbral crown]

bro is 517

[tropic summit]

yes p1 b1 on 2RL will not be stunned before she bursts

[tropic summit]

if you sub laplace with biscuit in that team you're no longer 2RL

use https://nikke-deck.web.app/

[fair pivot]

Interesting. I learn something new every day.

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor @umbral crown make a guide about siren stun mechanics, i'm tired of repeating myself

https://tenor.com/view/back-to-work-gif-18382095

[hybrid fox]

3RL anyway

[tropic summit]

yes that's too slow

[hybrid fox]

oh

[tropic summit]

rethink that team, you need 2RL noah

[hybrid fox]

centi!

[tropic summit]

that doesn't solve the issue if noah dies

[hybrid fox]

dam

[tropic summit]

and you've 2 attackers exposed to rosanna

this is an option aswell:

at this point noise can die, you can burst with rumani

and noah being in p2 shouldn't die

[hybrid fox]

HelmT is used in team 1

[tropic summit]

change approach in team 1 then

it means you're overcommitting somewhere

here's another approach for against scar-ros 2RL

say you want to remove helmt... you can then remove noise for rumani

tada, you've freed helmT

[hybrid fox]

maybe centi in team 1 then

[versed mesa]

Since the C1 rival I've had messed up my snipe, I went for C3 instead, but now I am worried, because the C3 only used the freebie tickets and didn't manage to take it back, but last time I went for him, he used like 700 gems for extra attempts. So now I have no idea if he is plotting some scheme against me by not doing it right now or if I'm just super paranoid for no reason

[hybrid fox]

ok if centi > HelmT I lose team 1

[tropic summit]

post these 3 enemy teams

[umbral belfry]

bully

[hybrid fox]

sure

[tropic summit]

laplaceT and emilia steal link from scarlet in T1 if used with RH?

then again aren't your current T1 and T3 already winning on their own?

oh nvm you've unprotected blanc in T3

scrap T3 and focus on T1 and T2

[hybrid fox]

LWW

[tropic summit]

so scar trina rh don't make it in time to wipe cindy or you die to noah and rumani invulnerable?

[umbral crown]

team 3 won?

[hybrid fox]

I think not in time, HelmT > centi is win

[tropic summit]

cuz you've CS% on helmt i guess

[hybrid fox]

rosy killed the first 3
then emi + la+ > sw + jackal

[hybrid fox]

correct

[umbral crown]

as cooking

[tropic summit]

so you're just trying to get 3 wins

[versed mesa]

I did some really dumb stuff at one point. My opponent, I just mirrored his teams completely 1 to 1 still managed to win, probably because had better cs% rolls.

[hybrid fox]

I was trying to go random bullcrap go for team 3

team 1,2 first prior

[tropic summit]

ok makes sense, if you already winning 2 out of 3 then you're done already

[hybrid fox]

team 3 is very close so I better fix?

[tropic summit]

it's close because you can sub blanc for nayuta

[hybrid fox]

if possible, otherwise it sometimes just trick me

[tropic summit]

blanc is just there to die

[hybrid fox]

my og thought is to blanc besti/emi

[versed mesa]

There is a certain dopamine hit if you manage to win with all 3 though

[tropic summit]

actually you kinda need someone in p1 to die or you're not 2RL

[hybrid fox]

yeah

[tropic summit]

either get T1 and T2 or T1 and T3 from the looks of it

[hybrid fox]

is it not better for blanc to burst slightly later

[hollow lagoon]

evil

[umbral crown]

not me

[glad meteor]

[umbral crown]

[worthy knoll]

Just Siren in P4

[versed mesa]

Can the SP arena reshuffle come any sooner? It's getting too nerve wracking trying to fight against 3 strong opponents for that top 3 finish every season Inb4 none of us get shuffled to separate groups, or get reshuffled with even more challenging ones

[hybrid fox]

[grand plaza]

Thank you, I am curious tho is second team is a valid team that can win?

[tropic summit]

everyteam is beatable and works good or bad against certain archetypes

if opponent uses the wrong approach, it will win

[grand plaza]

Got it, thanks

I wish I wouldn't use my last doll mats on Trina tho

[tropic summit]

you can keep her R15 or SR5 for all it matters

and as long as you don't use her in p2

[versed mesa]

I think I should try and remake my defense teams a bit stronger, of course my opponents have higher combat power and seem to be quite knowledgeable with team building so might not matter still

[grand plaza]

I literally used my last blue box, R0 is best I can do atm

[sly summit]

could i get some help with defense teams? those are the current teams but i feel like i cant hold anything consistently, i go from chal 6 to dia 1 all the time

[tropic summit]

who's spreading unprotected noah in p1 and blanc in p1 in the current meta...

[sly summit]

i just put things together to get high rl number

[tropic summit]

oh oke at least it wasn't teams provided to you, that's fine then

[hybrid fox]

not me I go random bullcrap go

[sly summit]

i wish i could tell which teams are losing on defense

[hybrid fox]

so I go p4 siren as @worthy knoll says for nayuta besti rosy emi la+?

[versed mesa]

I just look at the meta teams and make my own cursed attempts in recreating them, usually having to try something else since I don't have the best ones built at all

Rumani, Moran, Rosanna, all just waiting for a day I actually have resources for them

[hollow lagoon]

i mean

i do noah p2

[worthy knoll]

I just meant just use a P4 Siren then work your way from there, not P4 Siren on Rail's team.. your Biscuit is still unused, you prolly have an idea now how to work it. As long Blanc don't burst, any B3 will do fine

[hybrid fox]

blanc dont burst?.

[worthy knoll]

Yeah, RH will be bursting

[hybrid fox]

rh is on enemy team? or u mean I put my rh cuz prob not a good idea

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• jackal vestiTU drakeT blanc trina
• noise siren SWHA lib Noah
• nayuta centi cindy helmt rumani

Notes

• increase CP on your utilities (rumani, centi, noah, biscuit, jackal, noise... etc)
• finish building up vestiTU and SWHA
• consider building rosanna and laplaceT in short/mid term

[hybrid fox]

my fight here

[tropic summit]

you play a different game when you're C7

[hollow lagoon]

my poisoning the minds of the next generation

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/daring-today-are-we-spongebob-squidward-gif-22508233

[hollow lagoon]

bro cant take out soda scar it is what it is

[worthy knoll]

I said enemy will just RH RH Vesti at most, but at least its not on indom, and you have an unused Biscuit, I'm not gonna spoonfeed now how to use that, @tropic summit prolly has an idea how with what I mentioned

[tropic summit]

ye i do but he already wins 2 out of 3

and we already told him how to beat t1 and t2 in case he wanna drop t3

that equation is already solved, i wouldn't spend more time on it

[hollow lagoon]

when in doubt send salad comp

[hybrid fox]

yeah I put in biscuit too

[versed mesa]

I need to make a salmiakki-sauna-suomi-perkele comp 🇫🇮

[hybrid fox]

just asking if I go centi > helmT in team 2 do I still win that fight

i think yes?

[tropic summit]

you need to be 2RL to tank scar nuke

[hollow lagoon]

lets see it

[sly summit]

ok i will try these ty , also is there a prio on what cubes for pvp? my quantum is only lv 5 and tempering lv 4, is it quantum lv 7 then the rest into tempering?

[tropic summit]

quantum 7, tempering 11 or more

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit i'm just so glad i'm not green name no more

[versed mesa]

SU needs to make a Nikke that uses Molotovs

[hybrid fox]

yeah 2.5 is close

[tropic summit]

blue best name colour by far

[versed mesa]

And Tove needs to be there somewhere

[hollow lagoon]

Bunny Mast Incoming

[carmine gale]

does anyone know who win?

[tropic summit]

SU needs to release the idol version of this spankable ||ass||et

[carmine gale]

guys welp!

[hybrid fox]

what about siren in t1 hmm

[spiral onyx]

Coincidence lol

[hybrid fox]

gonna try tmr

[lean ore]

So recently I used the pinned post to try to figure out the most optiminal teams in SP Arena. However in that post some of the same Nikkes are used in each of the "optiminal" teams. So was wondering what the actual 3 best teams are. Can't use Jackal and HelmT everywhere haha.

[tropic summit]

any combination of 3 teams on 2RL or 2.5RL with gimmicks

try at best for those teams to meet the following criteria:

• 2RL or 2.5RL
• nuke resistance or immune
• non vulnerable p1
• non stunnable p1
• SG resistant
• siren resistant

[lean ore]

Is RL just because they hit multiple units AND have crazy burst gen?

[tropic summit]

RL and SR do not feed many bullets, which can be abused by enemy jackal teams to earn extra burst than they should've or punish you harder with scarlet

clip RL or special classes just happen to be also the highest burst gen contributors

[swift mango]

My team is so bad even if I won today there are guys that surely win it later on... Guess I need to spend more time to make team next time. Doesn't help that most of my team auto lose to that smol whale absolute.

[tropic summit]

just play a better game altogether

arknight endfield coming soon

[swift mango]

You don't even play Arknight.

[lean ore]

Interesting. Well I deff appreciate the insight and also your suggestions to someone else's question regarding defensive team above.

[tropic summit]

i used to play it on release... for 2 months

[umbral belfry]

we have no way of knowing unless you show their teams

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/cena-ass-john-cena-gif-12412994414466314679

[carmine gale]

so it's different for everyone?

[umbral belfry]

yes

[carmine gale]

different brackets?

[umbral belfry]

not including region, theres diff brackets

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/hp-harry-potter-snape-always-stare-gif-17584635

[umbral belfry]

imagine a lv 900 commander level vs a lv200 commander level

you'd be cooked!

[carmine gale]

i guess im gonna use the losers frame

gg

[lunar pawn]

Is there a way to know when your team is fast enough not to get b2 siren stunned?

[carmine gale]

im cooked anyways 🫠

[swift mango]

But that lv200 commander be super whale who max synch by Credit card and never claim from outpost. While only clear story up to map 25.

Or a max out mod account

[tropic summit]

yes use nikketop https://nikke.top/

[sterile hornet]

for champion arena, do you need to vote for each match to get the frame awards or can you just vote one time and then afk the season

[tropic summit]

example @lunar pawn

[swift mango]

Idk about now but when we did it before you need to vote every match

[umbral belfry]

missing a single vote = try again next season

[sterile hornet]

damn guess i missed out on one

[umbral belfry]

see you next season

[versed mesa]

I got the vote all winners frame on the second CA by pure dumb luck votes

[umbral belfry]

got my winners by voting for myself and then I became champ

[sterile hornet]

im only missing the loser frame. i remember missing some matches but still got the winners frame anyway

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/steak-bbq-food-cooking-grilled-gif-17842586

[plain kayak]

What is this table for?

[tropic summit]

from top to bottom the best burst gen contributors

[umbral crown]

rapipi should have renamed itself prika

but the only way to know its showing teams of each boi

[umbral crown]

ez way

[lunar pawn]

I never really understood that website, so many lines

[jagged mesa]

ptsd

[tropic summit]

there's 1 line you need to care about, if your B2 is behind or after it

[lunar pawn]

where is that line

[tropic summit]

[placid bloom]

the vertical one that says stun

[lunar pawn]

example

[jagged mesa]

holy booba

[tropic summit]

if your Noah is behind it, you're stun immune
if your Noah is after it, you're stunneroni

[jagged mesa]

wtf

[placid bloom]

sir this is teen 12+ game

[lunar pawn]

how do I know if noah is behind or in front of it though

[tropic summit]

you're trolling

[lunar pawn]

I'm sure this chart makes perfect sense to you but it's 100% confusing for me

[tropic summit]

the blue dot you see there is your B2, the blue dot after is B3, the blue dot before is B1

[placid bloom]

the bottom-most line is the only one that matters, it gives you the timeline for when you reach 100% burst gauge and when your B1~3 cast

[tropic summit]

i even circled the B2

[placid bloom]

the lines above are all the individual shot timings but that's not important

[tropic summit]

@lunar pawn

with the setup you've set there, you're siren immune

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/blinding-light-jerry-smith-rick-and-morty-too-bright-adult-swim-gif-9951096662630262377

[lunar pawn]

aha, so left line shows how you build your gauge up to full, then the following blue line is when b1, b2 and b3 triggers?

[placid bloom]

yes

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-toobright-gif-22151987

[lunar pawn]

awesome, thank you

[jagged mesa]

its ok doppel i use nikke.work (nikke.top??) occasionally and i still need to brain on when i look at it

[placid bloom]

work is dead

[tropic summit]

that's because you're just st- strong

[lunar pawn]

has this website ever been wrong? also, what happens if b2 lands at the same time as siren stun? which takes precedence?

[tropic summit]

it's either after or before, there's no such thing

either way B2 has a short cast delay, so stun would apply first

[lunar pawn]

interesting

[placid bloom]

if it's same frame on the calc then you are leaving it to fate how the game engine decides to resolve the actions

[lunar pawn]

theoretically anything before the stun line means 100% will be cast then?

[tropic summit]

nah it's been proven with noah and blanc delay, effects take precedence

[tropic summit]

ye

[lunar pawn]

awesome, bless you

never understood this website to this day

[tropic summit]

[lunar pawn]

is nikke deck updated with the same calculations? or is nikke top more accurate?

[umbral crown]

[placid bloom]

well there isn't really a good way to show detailed information without a full timeline

deck is just for ease of use

you won't be able to check stuff like 2.1~2.4 RL with deck

even though those are still perfectly safe builds

[jagged mesa]

deck is for the pvp tourists like me who dont have any cs rolls to think about

its what i use when im busy and i just speed build and cross my fingers that my opponent is also a pvp tourist

[placid bloom]

like this Moran team would show as 2.5RL on deck but it's fast enough to cast Bay before Scar nuke

[lunar pawn]

first would be like 1.9RL and second 2.2RL

interesting

would this work as defense

[umbral crown]

if your rival is not that brigh, probably

[worn ridge]

Why is drake bursting?

[lunar pawn]

immediate damage

plus only nayuta bursting really matters here

eh I'll keep it as a maybe for later

[worn ridge]

Helm is better

[umbral crown]

wll nothing to lose, just give a try

[placid bloom]

it loses to slow Cindy Mermaid, which is probably not good since that team is relatively low resource

well maybe SW hits are fat enough to kill before Cindy team can burst

[jagged mesa]

without her entering b3 buff? no way

oh slow cindy

[placid bloom]

she is Drake buffed

[lunar pawn]

the idea is to kill before b1 can burst, but can get whacky due to jackal feed

[placid bloom]

yeah but if you burst RH instead of Nayuta it will lose to slow Cindy if SW can't carry

[umbral crown]

but there is just 1 jackal

[lunar pawn]

it's a rookie team test anyway

only 1 guy attacks me in SPA every now and then and he wins by cp penalty either way

[placid bloom]

hmm there is 2 SW charge shots post FB, might not be enough to stop Cinderella from bursting

unless the proc so fat it kills Cinderella through decoy

I guess it is RH and Drake buffed shots

still dunno how much I like those odds

[lunar pawn]

just a fun switch to the usual teams

unga bunga won't work

[tropic summit]

pff, that's a lie

i'm gonna double jackal link indom 2RL

can't tell me what i can or can't do

this is 2026, i can be an apache helicopter if i want to

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/toradora-kitamura-glasses-heh-evil-plan-gif-21328862

[placid bloom]

PvP co-op mode

[tropic summit]

10v10 let's go

[placid bloom]

why run 1 Vesti when you can run 3 Vesti

[tropic summit]

why stop at 3

the intern kun reading this chat lurking meanwhile

[hollow lagoon]

me thinks u need to stay loyal to your tru waifu

[hollow lagoon]

need me 5 rosana

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/gintoki-sakata-gintama-serious-seriously-wrf-gif-15139351

[umbral crown]

people are not ready for this cook

[tropic summit]

@hollow lagoon what happens if i cut this?

[hollow lagoon]

as a engineer

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

the clothing will like fail at red and split along the seam highlighted in blue

and the scene will no longe be safe for work

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/haikyu-haikyuu-nishi-yu-nishinoya-ryunosuke-tanaka-gif-7663510405764418072

[umbral crown]

next CA rail gonna use tove, trust

[tropic summit]

i only use her in 2 places

[umbral crown]

[placid bloom]

Tove Soline Leona SDoro

[tropic summit]

[placid bloom]

ViperT

[umbral crown]

phase 3

[placid bloom]

with PoliT

[tropic summit]

brick

[placid bloom]

guess we can kick Leona

[hollow lagoon]

bed room and shower?

[tropic summit]

unleash the emma propaganda

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/smug-anime-nisekoi-false-love-smirk-gif-16228071

[hollow lagoon]

dont tell me, its not the shower but the back yard

or rather

the shower is in the back yard

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878

[onyx scaffold]

im cooked again. this left team lost.
i won with helm (instead of snow) last time

[placid bloom]

surely Soline can keep Viper alive

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/rabbit-stealing-baby-lemon-burglar-gif-9572650

[tropic summit]

left lost? how the f

[hollow lagoon]

ate a stun prob

[onyx scaffold]

and im never using this team again

[umbral crown]

[hollow lagoon]

this is gold

[onyx scaffold]

bay cover got destroyed too fast this time

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

got too greedy using her in p2, i still use her in p4

[onyx scaffold]

also lib nuke has delay

[hollow lagoon]

bay cover got yeeted by lib as well

for one of my fights

or maybe i'm delusional

[shell hazel]

i saw Tenshi had an interesting bay cook

[umbral crown]

cooking

[onyx scaffold]

someone copied my bay p1 cook (that I got suggested by hoboman) and won CA

[hollow lagoon]

nobody copy me

[shell hazel]

needs some CS to be 2.5RL though

[hollow lagoon]

except @shell hazel

he tried me once

[onyx scaffold]

what is the best scar jack team without helm

i feel like using rapunzel b1 now

[placid bloom]

Rapu Scar Soline

[onyx scaffold]

will probably run this

[shell hazel]

that's my usual scar comp

jackal makes it costly though, I don't love the soda version either

[onyx scaffold]

i dont have soline

[shell hazel]

I said soda :p

[onyx scaffold]

yeah but i dont have soline to run rapunzel soline version

[umbral crown]

🧱

[shell hazel]

I got her with the step up new year thing

what did you use yours on?

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit help pls

[placid bloom]

top don't have Soline, have to sub with Mary

[swift mango]

@worldly osprey Remember to use Noise+Bay, Moran+x next season. They could counter the Smol whale Vesti better than Noise+Noah, Moran+Bay.

His Vesti team is with LapT, Mast and Absolute to kill without bursting. We need to make tanky p1 team to counter that.

Common build make his team a free win. I should have noticed this sooner but I wasn't into CA these past few season.

[onyx scaffold]

i should have swapped my team positions sadly

[tropic summit]

you're in deficit in both teams

fight someone else

[shell hazel]

rng arena

[warm monolith]

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/gushing-over-magical-girls-maho-shoujo-magical-girl-surprised-disturbed-gif-13120696653143240502

[shell hazel]

can't predict what you'll face nature of the thing

[warm monolith]

You can do it

[onyx scaffold]

i face the same guy who beat me last time and neither of us changed the pos

[warm monolith]

[tropic summit]

no i won't

stop asking me to help you when you're in deficit, it's annoying

[swift mango]

That's your fault
The loser need editing, not the winner

[warm monolith]

But thats why im asking in the first place,knowing you could do it

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/cheers-here-im-gif-12576554215365085622

[tropic summit]

i won't

[onyx scaffold]

should i use rh B1 or rapunzel? actually i dont think rh p1 is helpful cuz i dont need to do more dmg

[warm monolith]

Okay

[shell hazel]

don't make Rail ill again Bay

[tropic summit]

RH if you wanna wipe slow cindy

rapu p2 actually gives you a bit more resistance to other archetypes

[onyx scaffold]

why can't this team?

[tropic summit]

you expect that team to 1hitko cindy?

[onyx scaffold]

i mean my soda scar can nuke cindy

[tropic summit]

fascinating, mine never did and it's a 40% atk scarlet and maxed out trina

then again i'm f2p maybe it's a core issue

[onyx scaffold]

My scar is mlb

[shell hazel]

it can win but she needs to crit I think

if not it's wet noodle damage

[swift mango]

If your bracket has absolute normal attack teams then Rapunzel is better. Because she heal and stun all. Rapu also better against Rosa.

But weak against Cindy tanky team which isn't used much now

[onyx scaffold]

To clarify, I can nuke 172k cp cindy but there are many 200k cp cindy here

[tropic summit]

is the stun actually reliable tho

conditions are pretty strict to trigger it

while i do agree with the healing and ress though

[swift mango]

With Mast+Vesti+LapT+Absolute, yes.

Rapu p2 would be on the brink.
And you would lose if no Rapu

[onyx scaffold]

Hmm I will run RH b1 cuz some guys running noise bay cindy biscuit moran

[swift mango]

This is slow Cindy though. They won't even burst 1 before you wipe

[tropic summit]

that's one hell of a weird team

noise and moran in same team... but then you also throw a bay and biscuit in it

sounds crazy

[onyx scaffold]

Still needs to fix my lib team. Losing against 2rl scar, noah, maybe vesti/sg too is too much

[onyx scaffold]

They want to save blanc

[tropic summit]

ye but noise and moran in same team... those are few units that can actually bother being p1

then you've biscuit when you already have noise and moran

and bay what even is she doing in a non 2RL team

[shell hazel]

they're just having a tea party

[onyx scaffold]

Just a defender b2 ig

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/echidna-tea-rezero-gif-18141176

[strange linden]

Mihara DoT works even after she's dead? dam,

[umbral belfry]

not surprising loss

[versed mesa]

Railtracer is a true legend. I used my last free ticket, sniped C1, he wasn't online after all to defend, all 3 of my teams won attack

[umbral belfry]

rumani p1 = always confirmed indom bc blanc also gets bisc immune from counters

you can only pray that their mihara misses

[onyx scaffold]

I did lose last time so not surprising either

[strange linden]

Thought I'd lose there

[umbral belfry]

[umbral belfry]

crown

[swift mango]

The use of absolute + another dps, team is the reason Linked Noise is so popular now even in Emi bracket. And 2rl Moran. Plus Rapu+Scarlet. Even Nayuta SG. Otherwise it's basically a free win for opponent.

[tropic summit]

might be popular in SEA, in global i've yet to run into one

[onyx scaffold]

If I had more resources. i would have invested in absolute and soline

[tropic summit]

although i do understand the reasoning if you're expecting that team

[onyx scaffold]

Is it time to pick Soline from new year selector???? I forgot about it

Zzz time

[tropic summit]

a selector for a CA only unit? is she used in pve SG teams?

[swift mango]

Well, lower bracket use absolute more. Higher bracket it's just rouge because Emi exist so more burst gen. And people has more research level thus being tankier.
But when you meet it you could die. Also, it need more investment. To LapT and Vesti DPS. This not everyone have.

[shell hazel]

she can be yeah cdr for SG team with no b.soda

[tropic summit]

uh at least she has other usage outside of CA then

[onyx scaffold]

She is but i dont really care about SR.

[shell hazel]

also I mean I had basically everyone else anyway

so I figure soline time 😄

[tropic summit]

i'm saving my good ol selector for now

nothing of priority anyway

[shell hazel]

it doesn't get updated for any new units so

may as well use it for a missing something

[tropic summit]

ye but im waiting to use it when i don't find specific units for months

[onyx scaffold]

2nd option is Rosanna. My rosanna has only 1 dupe. She cannot nuke most of the time

[tropic summit]

my luck is either i find the wishlisted nikke in 1 or 2 weeks or 1 year

[shell hazel]

that only applies if you're missing someone now though really

[tropic summit]

i do, just not uber meta stuff

[shell hazel]

I am missing two units now, Viper and B.Milk

[tropic summit]

b milk for iron code could be useful

SR wise at least

[swift mango]

Another reason absolute+ DPS isn't more popular is because it need precise investment. Crit, ATK, Ele for LapT not everyone have. We often invest into CS.

And done

[tropic summit]

and here i thought you only needed stats on vesti for that stuff to work

[shell hazel]

yeah was my next pick but I'll wishlist and get later prob

[upper grove]

I had union mates bricking their UR comps by not having maidmast

[swift mango]

LapT normal attack helpskill Scarlet, Noise with Ele.

[tropic summit]

so what would that team be?

emma eunwha vestiTU laplace and?

[swift mango]

Mast+Emma+Forehead+Vesti+LapT

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/naruhodo-anime-weeb-i-see-glasses-gif-14617903

[onyx scaffold]

@swift mango u didn't reply to my ping

[swift mango]

Which one?

[onyx scaffold]

Overload for vesti?

[swift mango]

4 ATK.
16+ Ammo if indom/Noah
Ele/Crit/Crit dmg.

CS as needed

5-15-21

[onyx scaffold]

Yeah my favorite 40 lines Vesti

[tropic summit]

@swift mango btw not sure u replied earlier, you gonna play arknights endfield or nah?

[swift mango]

Depend on if you wanted to use Vesti for burst gen. Get 1 more hit in. Indom to kill. Or just Normal attack with absolute.

[shell hazel]

whilst i am not blood I do plan to try it out

[swift mango]

Idk how that game work so Idk.

[placid bloom]

is it not just Genshin but with Arknight char

[tropic summit]

all i know is that it's gonna have a factorio part and some action part

[placid bloom]

I didn't actually watch gameplay vid

[tropic summit]

the action part sadly looks very gensh*t-ish

[placid bloom]

I mean that's like almost every mobile game now

only diff is whether you can have 1 char on field at a time or all of them

[tropic summit]

how is ppl even playing the same crap over and over

[placid bloom]

this one look like you can have all 4 on field at same time

that's only diff

[swift mango]

Party of 4 auto attack without turn base? Remind me of the game Kingraid

[tropic summit]

hurray...

[swift mango]

If it worked like Kingraid I would play it.

[tropic summit]

the waifu are good at least

[placid bloom]

King Raid getting rerelease

[tropic summit]

dayum surtr is there

[swift mango]

someone knowing about King Raid?

[placid bloom]

well it was okay back in the day

I forgot when it was

[swift mango]

It has very good story.

[tropic summit]

this?

[shell hazel]

I'll probably get tired if it has no sweep lol

[swift mango]

Yeah

[tropic summit]

that's the problem with most gacha, gameplay either made fast and easy to get rid of or if you've to play it's utter boring grind

imagine making games you actually wanna play

[shell hazel]

is one part of why I quit wuwa had to manually farm the daily farming stages

which were zzz

I don't mind playing em but I want to actually try where it counts not on daily farm gear x stage of zzz

[swift mango]

MC and his GF turned into demon king in the end. The goddess was actually the bad guy that trapped and turned him into demon king. The cast are all very likeable.

[placid bloom]

I don't remember anyone except the coffin girl

game too old

[swift mango]

It's good that you remember someone.

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit i cant get any higher than this on my own all enemy teams are 1m+

[tropic summit]

you've reached your comfort zone then

play defensively and enjoy the gems

[shell hazel]

Rail gave me some rocks back for once

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/steal-doro-gif-1027805425862452031

[warm monolith]

Theres one guy that has high cp but bad defs,cam we at least try against him?

[placid bloom]

oh yeah I forgot the reason that King's Raid was good, there was no char gacha. You unlock the char by playing the game

[tropic summit]

ask someone else if they're available

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/doro-gif-5568225387860547379

[warm monolith]

[tropic summit]

my god the good times where you unlock stuff by actually playing

[placid bloom]

I think it was like League of Legends shop mechanic? Where you can unlock char for real money faster or you can just play to get them

[tropic summit]

or unlocking that juicy skin that required experience/skill/investiment

bring back those times

nowdays meanwhile, 💳

[placid bloom]

too bad, market model already solved

[tropic summit]

we gotta go back

[placid bloom]

don't need to rely on small spender when you can just make bank from big spender

[tropic summit]

this timeline is beyond fked

[tropic summit]

best part is that it's self inflicted, if players actually realized they getting scammed we could stop this sh*t trend probably in weeks

but then they easily lose to these skins anyway

[warm monolith]

Help pls(i will be in deficit)

[swift mango]

But the grind is very very heavy. F2P grind for unique weapon and armour would take age.
I kinda like this guy lol, an oldpaladin with a big stick.

[tropic summit]

wouldn't sell well nowdays, no waifu no muney

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-toothless-laugh-trendizisst-gif-23028890

[tropic summit]

oh shop resetted

time to grab more credits

[shell hazel]

yeah! picked me up some nice things

doll crates and such

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/kazuma-satou-money-pay-day-cuddling-money-konosuba-gif-6269342205239264257

[swift mango]

This girl should be the most popular waifu in the game. That's why Kuwon remember her.

[winged reef]

Any idea on how to beat the following team? I've tried with scarlet, I've tried with SWHA, I've put several iterations but it seems to always boil down to this: TVesti lives thanks to Blanc's immunity skill and wipes my team before the immunity wears off.

Here's the enemy Team (350k CP):

[tropic summit]

wowie she cute

[placid bloom]

yeah I don't remember anyone else but I remember her

I think her coffin fire laser beam, she is like Laplace

[swift mango]

She is like Makima. No dying after dying. But also have a small wipe for arena, or that Laser beam you mentioned during coffin stage.

[tropic summit]

you've several options:

1. kill blanc, use scarlet + splashers

• scarlet vestiTU laplaceT blanc jackal (scarlet linked)

2. kill vestiTU and helmT, force a xmaiden indom

• noah trina helmt ros biscuit (rosanna needs hard invest here)
• noah trina SWHA rosanna biscuit (alternatively, should reduce vestiTU hp enough for a non fully invested rosanna to be lethal, needs quantum on trina)

3. slower indom, this is trickier and i don't recommend

[swift mango]

But this oldman basically kick her out of the meta thanks to his smashing that dispel her immortal coffin stage.

[tropic summit]

would be so hard to sell this nowdays

[shell hazel]

for snow white, why can't this be ele instead of crit?

[tropic summit]

lock 3 and 2, get ele on 1 = profit

[swift mango]

No girl going for handsome middle age man anymore?
I remember he had female players fangirling him.

[placid bloom]

even the male banners on Genshin don't make that much

[shell hazel]

it may well be the move

[tropic summit]

in fact im surprised genshin moved from female only honkai impact

[placid bloom]

Idk if there is old man banner on FGO

I assume not

young adult man is as old as it gets

[tropic summit]

most profitable 20-30 years old community
somewat ok 18-20
still ok 30-40

obviously male...

[shell hazel]

I have 2 line 1's to fix on her now

[tropic summit]

but then you've exceptions like LADS, which i still can't believe actually had better sales than prominent gachas

[swift mango]

Middle age man but need to be handsome like this guy who raised 3 kids in Arknight I guess.

[winged reef]

These are the 3 teams I've tried. I have a 4th that outweights their CP but it has no synergies so they still die:

Team 1 (329K): Scarlet / SWHA / Noah / THelm / Jackal
Team 2 (299K): Noah / SWHA / Biscuit / THelm / Jackal
Team 3 (293K): Noah / Jackal / Scarlet / Biscuit / SWHA
Team 4 (451K): RRH / Naga / RH / Alice / TDrake

The problem with Noah is that she often dies before activating her burst, no matter the position, they just gun for her (I guess the taunt activates)... thus I have to put biscuit, but then I don't have enough dmg... sigh. Also I don't understand how Blanc always manages to use indommitability on TVesti :(.

[shell hazel]

lotta thirsty women out there

[tropic summit]

ye i can see grills rollin' this one

[shell hazel]

gotta respect it

[tropic summit]

use scarlet indom with splashers, once you kill their blanc and indom yourself you'll easily kill em off

it's the 1st example i gave you

[placid bloom]

I remember some Chinese gachas attempted some grandpa banners, they don't sell very well

even if they are meta

[tropic summit]

all of these teams are wrong because indom vestiTU directly counters these, as long as you don't kill blanc

[tropic summit]

honestly, if i was a spender, i'd spend money on that hot looking waifu, not an op meta grandpa

s3x sells is a lesson they've quite well learned after fate/GO

in fact current gacha trend may aswell thank fate/GO for starting it

[shell hazel]

although I'm down for good drip outfits as much as I am fanservice ones

gimme some aura farming

[tropic summit]

honkai impact picked it up fast enough into 3D and action

[swift mango]

It's like the highest revenue gacha in the world right now thanks to having no competition.

[tropic summit]

and from there one we spawned hell

[placid bloom]

they really have no fear, even gave the grandpa paid skin for New Year

[tropic summit]

ye it's wild

was a survey ever done to check male/female audience for LADS?

i'd be downright curious how many male players are spenders in that one

[heavy lodge]

any helps on how to beat these SP arena teams? the third one used to be a cointoss with scarlet but not anymore

[swift mango]

What about hot looking grandpa? Surely we have this niche lol.

[heavy lodge]

this rookie team is literally my mirror that I can't beat and I'm running red hood ratherthan siren too

[winged reef]

It worked!! I swapped TLaplace for SWHA (I don't have TLaplace yet)

It looks like it came down to the wire though XD

[tropic summit]

uhhh you didn't kill blanc before she indommed vestiTU?

looks like you won 1v1 indom via reload timing

so essentially method 3

well let's just go with what todd would say

https://tenor.com/view/todd-howard-it-just-works-bethesda-this-all-just-works-gif-20598651

[swift mango]

Male players mainly pay for meta or for the units that their girlfriend like.

Otherwise it's not male but gay.

The game need to spend a lot to keep up with meta ofc.

[tropic summit]

set this team and tell me if your vestiTU stays linked

vestiTU blanc rh swha jackal

(you can test it in shooting range)

[swift mango]

We have another cereal now.

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/smoke-smoke-anime-smoke-dandadan-dandadan-smoke-smoking-anime-gif-5001479403911799719

[tropic summit]

i dunno if i'd play that game for my girlfriend

[swift mango]

Some guy made a Reddit post saying that game teached him to be a better boyfriend.

[versed mesa]

You guys have girlfriends??

[placid bloom]

nvm I misremember, the grandpa was free char. But he did get paid skin for anniversary

still no fear

[tropic summit]

just look down at your right hand

[versed mesa]

But I don't want the left one to get suspicious

[swift mango]

Yeah, we have hot grandma why not hot grandpa? Could this pass for a hot male grandpa gacha?
I'm sure he is more handsome than all the guys on this chat

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/buenas-noches-amor-cumple-años-gif-16935597126230636805

[winged reef]

The problem is that the enemy team burst really quickly and I can't seem to be able to kill their blanc fast enough. Even by the time I hit my own B1, my team was almost dead:
it is a miracle Scarlet got indom before dying

[placid bloom]

maybe they do collab with Morgan Freeman, how many people would pull on his gacha

[tropic summit]

that's a well built vestiTU you facing

[swift mango]

He would be given out for free.

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-gif-24496447

[heavy lodge]

tried it and it links swha

[tropic summit]

oke then let's take a diff approach

[tropic summit]

assemble these, check CP, then you can run them if you're not in deficit

(your teams are on the left)

the good thing here is that their soda is on a 3RL or at worse 2.5RL team... although only one way to find out if they've CS%

it will still be a bit RNGy if they're 2.5RL because soda can stun before you're on B3

if she stuns SWHA, ripperoni

uh

could take the easier way out actually with siren now that i look at this

fight poison with poison

[swift mango]

Surely girl would pull for him
because he hires them to pull

[heavy lodge]

i have quantum cube at 8, im sad because swha is SUPER badly invested
like, she's already at 1 copy, max doll, overload and full skills BUT the overload rolls on 3 equipments just got the first line and I'm out of rocks (invested in cinderella recently)

[tropic summit]

i think we can take a different take actually

let's just go the stun route

[heavy lodge]

hm?

[tropic summit]

@swift mango what you're not convinced?

[heavy lodge]

i haven't attacked yet 😭

[tropic summit]

is the CP still OK with these?

post both matchups so i can get a clue of your CP against theirs?

#pvp-arena message
#pvp-arena message

[swift mango]

Finally a darn Ele.

[tropic summit]

2 rocks left

[swift mango]

One day I will get Crit, ATK or ammo there instead of def

[tropic summit]

hopefully 1 day before EoS

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/sure-john-cena-are-you-sure-gif-5783187

[shell hazel]

so far sw eaten about 100 rocks and will probably do it again before I'm done with her rolls

[tropic summit]

healthy diet

[shell hazel]

lore accurate at least

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-goddess-of-victory-anime-gif-1065198904595747607

[umbral belfry]

me with @hollow lagoon's rocks

[swift mango]

Share me some too.

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

i'm stocking up for the rainy days

all of @shell hazel rocks

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

good you're not in deficit... now only one problemo, i'm not really confident lib blanc + helm buffed is actually enough to lethal moran with bay active and on trina's buff

[hollow lagoon]

why is life so hard

[heavy lodge]

😭
I got cinderella too

[tropic summit]

@swift mango @glad meteor @umbral crown is this lib lethal on moran with that team?

[tropic summit]

cindy gets bay countered partially here

[hollow lagoon]

still one of my best units i suppose, turned line 2 hit rate into ammo

[shell hazel]

just gotta atk on that line 1 but I guess the charge dmg cp pads a bit and the ele is fine

[heavy lodge]

we just ignoring the third team right? guess there's no counter to blanc vesti :^)

[tropic summit]

there is but it needs rosanna

[hollow lagoon]

its not nothing

[tropic summit]

you got her built @heavy lodge ?

[hollow lagoon]

just like cinderella tho, charged dmg not too important, but better than cindy i guess

[heavy lodge]

she's not overloaded but i can have her skills be 7

no dolls too

[tropic summit]

she needs 7/10/10 4OL R15-SR5

so you could say she's not built

[heavy lodge]

rip

nikke just dropped nayuta AND liberalio AND snow white to a f2p??? (didn't build diesel or brid saving for Anis)

[lone sequoia]

for a true scarlet pilgrim

[tropic summit]

how's your midhara?

[heavy lodge]

she is built alright

[ivory mango]

hello

[tropic summit]

oke slow cindy it is

[ivory mango]

can someone help

[heavy lodge]

10/7/7 4OL doll at SR 15

[tropic summit]

run these

[ivory mango]

@tropic summit you available ?

[tropic summit]

<@&946725432554836008>

[ivory mango]

<@&946725432554836008>

[placid bloom]

they are back

[tropic summit]

it has indeed been a while since i saw a spammer in here

[tropic summit]

what do you need

[ivory mango]

I win T1
following is my box (sending after cd)

[tropic summit]

deficit again

stop making me deal with deficit every time

[ivory mango]

[wild hemlock]

[tropic summit]

T1 keep as is
T2 blanc rumani midhara cindy biscuit
T3

show CP

[umbral crown]

think so

[tropic summit]

gonna make him try a safer approach first with slow cindy

[lusty gull]

[tropic summit]

if it fails i'd give it a shot

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

is it you?

[tropic summit]

aye fight someone else

[tropic summit]

CP looks good, try these

(record if you can)

[ivory mango]

ty

[lusty gull]

i know him from fr channel and he's funny

[heavy lodge]

alright, and kek I will try to use this one too

[tropic summit]

if anything speed test if they're 2RL, that's useful info

sustain team against indom vesti isn't actually a bad choice

[ivory mango]

[glad meteor]

Maybe , i mean mine breaks through bay

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit i kept getting spanked

[tropic summit]

i'm more concerned about moran surviving and winning the 1v1 tho

[heavy lodge]

i got a free quantum cube from not using centi, who should I place it in? vesti ta?

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/konosuba-anime-slap-gif-7864657

[tropic summit]

quantum on lappy trina and jackal

vesti and scarlet tempura

[glad meteor]

Yeah, that could be an issue i guess. Lib also loses attack buff

[tropic summit]

that's what i thought

slow cindy with midhara DoT is probably safer

[heavy lodge]

tempering cube is only at 5 vs 13 resilence

[tropic summit]

doesn't matter use it

[glad meteor]

Enemy broke through

https://tenor.com/view/david-tennant-cry-doctor-who-sad-rain-gif-11794483

[tropic summit]

time to get cookin' with your superior brain

https://tenor.com/view/noko-kanoko-anime-my-deer-friend-nokotan-shikanoko-nokonoko-koshitantan-gif-1127032685120984755

[ivory mango]

okay