pvp-arena

[tame vessel]

what biscuit does guys

[hollow lagoon]

biscuit= tasty snack

eat for profit

[tame vessel]

not the real life one

[hollow lagoon]

read skill 2 for enlightenment

[tame vessel]

i dont know how to read

[hollow lagoon]

reading is too hard ye

[tame vessel]

come here lil echo

[keen vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177116972593463316/1441497155465515008/1026322546934698004.gif

[tame vessel]

so she provide invicible for defenders

[lunar pawn]

team @worn ridge suggested? seems kinda slow, though Idk how feed works on jackal with SW, with her spamming AOE every moment

[tame vessel]

sadly i dont even have her

[hollow lagoon]

seems too fast to me

[keen vapor]

Selector

[tame vessel]

i'll have to hoard that

[keen vapor]

Why

[tame vessel]

cuz i dont have mmast too

[lunar pawn]

I can give it a shot though, it's rookie anyway

[hollow lagoon]

bro did ca before?

[lunar pawn]

lost 3-2 today

[hollow lagoon]

gib that team a try then

figure u know ur share of slow mihara cindy indom by this point

[lunar pawn]

na I stopped caring about CA setups for a while, til last shuffle they removed the whales sitting on top 4 and gave me a shot now

[tame vessel]

whats early game pvp team guys

[lunar pawn]

I did run mihara cindy setups in a few CA seasons but not this one

I don't really understand it, I just follow suggestions

[hollow lagoon]

idk?

[lunar pawn]

whatever you have

[tame vessel]

[lunar pawn]

it's like someone requesting a team but not sharing roster

[tame vessel]

i have to ols my pvp nikkes while stucking hard at mc

[hollow lagoon]

i ol my pvp back when mother whale was hard

which is like

[tame vessel]

2 years?

[hollow lagoon]

7-8months ago?

[tame vessel]

wah

but mother whale is still hard

[hollow lagoon]

in tetra/elysion/missilis tower maybe

[tame vessel]

electric weak still a nightmare

[hollow lagoon]

mother whale is easy now

[tame vessel]

man i need helmt and sw to build up

[hollow lagoon]

boss difficulty wise its Onlyone>ziz=mc>behemoth>mw

[jagged mesa]

what the

i really dont know about that

[tame vessel]

why is people said indivilia harder

than mc

[hollow lagoon]

indivilia is interception, dosnt really matter

[jagged mesa]

id say mc > mw > behemoth > the others

[lunar pawn]

harder to stage 9

[hollow lagoon]

how is behemoth>MW

[tame vessel]

idk

[jagged mesa]

no i said MW > behemoth

[hollow lagoon]

MW got 1 soft counter when rapi rh released, then 1hard counter with nayuta and now hard counter #2 with SWHA

[tame vessel]

i hate mc so much

is helm a good one to do mc

[jagged mesa]

oh i havent tried mw since nayuta/swha

but still, mw because you need crown or another taunter sacrifice

[hollow lagoon]

MW is easier than Crstayl Container if i'mma be honest

[jagged mesa]

its really not fun doing mw without crown

[tame vessel]

whats the sacrifice part

[hollow lagoon]

tower wise its relative to personal power tho. by the time i hit MW 580 in tower its gonna be fun

[jagged mesa]

i just mean even in campaign

no crown - rough time in MW

behemoth is simple stat check and helm heal during red lightning

[hollow lagoon]

invest diesel treasure

MC is also stat check

and so is ZIZ

[jagged mesa]

yeah but behemoth stat check is easier than MC relative to progression

[hollow lagoon]

tru

[lunar pawn]

so this?

[jagged mesa]

MC check also requires one shot units for slippers

[hollow lagoon]

now days people cheese it with Ada

but yes limited unit

[tame vessel]

mc stat check is a nightmare

[hollow lagoon]

lets see how it goes

[jagged mesa]

yeah im gonna hit MC hard soon

going to run ein ada

[tame vessel]

i saw people do mc with helm

[jagged mesa]

but ill need another like 60 synchro to beat it

[hollow lagoon]

i just brute forced it 481

[jagged mesa]

im 393 right now

[tame vessel]

[jagged mesa]

i wont clear MC for probably 3 months

[hollow lagoon]

ill deal with your problem if u deal with mine

[jagged mesa]

i feel like thats doable no?

i think my alt beat 42N at higher deficit

[hollow lagoon]

how old is ur alt

[jagged mesa]

i meant normal, sorry

mistype, edited

[hollow lagoon]

ur lookin at a not 14 month yet account, 2 ele+2atk roll is great 3 ele roll is luxury 3ele+3atk is best of the best

[lunar pawn]

slower indom wins the day

[jagged mesa]

holy moly 582 at 14 months

[lunar pawn]

SW almost died though lol

[jagged mesa]

id just repalce QeQ with mmast

[tame vessel]

Whats indom

[lunar pawn]

though tbf SW was using resi instead of tempering

let me try with tempering ig

[hollow lagoon]

could have mis indomed any unit not sw, but the deal breaker is speed anyway

so it looks woncky but in reality u always would ahve won

[lunar pawn]

technically no, since jackal shares dmg with SW and biscuit, and biscuit has higher hp, so as long as SW doesn't die, indom goes to her

[hollow lagoon]

mmm

then it would just always won

[lunar pawn]

let me see if tempering makes it smoother

[hollow lagoon]

what do u eman smoother u wanna speed them up even more,

and slow ur self down even more

[lunar pawn]

mmm

[hollow lagoon]

change ur sw to a slower gen unit

[lunar pawn]

biscuit almost stole that indom now, thankfully she died before she had a chance

slower gen means vesti will have more time to wipe

indom will be whackier

[hollow lagoon]

wackier is more fun

try a rosana thing when?

[lunar pawn]

mmmm unsure who to pair her with for most damage

either rosanna with indom on someone, or kill all 3 dps before blanc can b2

[hollow lagoon]

feel like before blanc b2 is rough since its already 2rl

[lunar pawn]

I managed to kill a noise before she could burst at b1, but vs a team with no jackal

[hollow lagoon]

what u can do with rosana is break link and play snipers and force them to mis indom onto helm

unless helm dies then nobody know what happens

cursed team indeed

so cused i wonder what would happen

[lunar pawn]

unlikely, tvesti isn't linked, and at worst the indom would go to SW

[hollow lagoon]

their vesti isnt linked?

[lunar pawn]

nope

[hollow lagoon]

so what they link sw and helm?

[lunar pawn]

yea

[hollow lagoon]

well run absolute comp with rosana

dead vest and sw will force indom on something

[lunar pawn]

what is that thing

[hollow lagoon]

feel free to change mast to crown

there we go

[lunar pawn]

when do I burst

[hollow lagoon]

u dont

or u do when most of ur units are dead

[lunar pawn]

that's hoping his vesti has cs%

else by the time someone dies they're already doing b1

[hollow lagoon]

that's ok

gamba team is gamba

[lunar pawn]

I need more cooks

[fast nest]

This is full dopamine comp.

No retreatment. Just go crash or dead

[hollow lagoon]

crown also have atk dmage up

[fast nest]

Crown 21 % vs Flora 31%

[hollow lagoon]

i know

[lunar pawn]

that's also

[hollow lagoon]

but u know cost

[lunar pawn]

coping that I have enough cp

[hollow lagoon]

mast better than crown tho?

[fast nest]

yes. she contain crit dmg

[hollow lagoon]

but my vesti needs to crit

[fast nest]

Gorgeous moment

[hollow lagoon]

so beautiful

i'mma invest this

my core 4 emma's getting ahrd to sucide anyway

[lunar pawn]

my mast flora emma eunhwa all lvl 1

[hollow lagoon]

my flora mast not good either

ill prob just crown

and mast/flora

[worn ridge]

How is this possible?

[hollow lagoon]

why isn't it possible

[wild hemlock]

Nana is running almost that exact setup

[young sphinx]

Any ideas for a new set of Arena teams? im starting to fall behind my group again.

Current teams:
Jackal, VestiTU, Blanc, Centi, Drake
Crown, Biscuit, RH, Anis, Siren
Monk, Triana, Jellyfish, HelmT, Noise

Arena:
Jackal, VestiTU, RH, Monk, HelmT

I pulled SWHA, rumani, and maidenIR since ive last built these teams. Missing Noah and Scarlet still seem to hamstring anything I can come up with

[hollow lagoon]

[young sphinx]

this is about what ive come up with

[lunar pawn]

too much investment into eh characters

so vesti is strong enough to wipe before anyone can burst

[hollow lagoon]

ded blanc
lib too slow
team 3 no clear goal

[worn ridge]

Bro why u using jackal/helm and snow together

[young sphinx]

Because i dont know what im doing in pvp

[hollow lagoon]

just whale sync more

[lunar pawn]

me neither

[young sphinx]

The most i know is bigger number better

[lunar pawn]

I mean, if you run dum dum team, then you can lose even if rival is on deficit

[young sphinx]

I dont think my current teams are dumb. Those are

[hollow lagoon]

yes

snow white has been a great boon

[lunar pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-comendo-picoca-gif-9669437860846841235

[hollow lagoon]

i been waiting for a unit that target entire team for a long time

finally i achieved yeetism of the greatest order

[worn ridge]

Without noah is hard to beat pvp

[hollow lagoon]

time to buy that pilgrim selector

[young sphinx]

but that requires spending 55 dollars

[hollow lagoon]

ur in the pvp channel

it means u care about winning

not having noah= u dont care about winning

now are have a conflict of interest

[worn ridge]

He needs more luck

[hollow lagoon]

or u can be a literal god like @quaint granite and literal pull noah on the day pilgrim selector drops

[young sphinx]

this guy gets it

[young sphinx]

shes been on my wishlist sinse starting this game. just havent pulled her

I think i have the equipment for her though

[glad meteor]

Need 55 buckos to get her

[hollow lagoon]

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/sounds-very-tempting-the-man-with-the-golden-gun-james-bond-roger-moore-gif-25691027

[glad meteor]

rosy bout to wheel

[hollow lagoon]

it would be funny if @young sphinx is on global and in SHihai's bracket, i shouldbe telling you to take it slow and chill out

the sync is similar

[young sphinx]

global 763

ill lie if it gets me advice though

[umbral crown]

Probably

But since no issues in sp... that can wait

[glad meteor]

In this economy. Rosy rich

[umbral crown]

[worn ridge]

Noise/ trina/ cindy /centi anis sr.

Jackal/
jellyfish/blanc/rumani/snow white

Moran/ anis summer / biscuit/helmT/tia

[umbral crown]

Not really

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-who-dr-who-david-tennant-sad-emotional-gif-5325479

[worn ridge]

Problem here idk if your nikke have treasures

[glad meteor]

I need to build pc, but ai making everything more expensive

[young sphinx]

just wait 5 years

[quaint granite]

Funny that it was the 20th pull of SWHA banner

[young sphinx]

ill give these a shot

thanks

[pale knoll]

[umbral crown]

[pale knoll]

[hollow lagoon]

had to fix some weird bits

[cedar sorrel]

So after railtracer has made me teams practically no one is fighting me let alone beat me. The only thing I can do I try to beat the people in challenger. Anyone can help and see if I have a shot?

[hollow lagoon]

show CP difference

[young sphinx]

Team 5 is just hope you live long enough for cindy?

[hollow lagoon]

biscuit prevents cindy and rumani from being dead fast, mihara prob dies to somethign random and poison enemy team, if u live, u burst after their noah expire and they eat cindy nuke and have a great day

[cedar sorrel]

This is the player with the lowest overall cp. Maybe I could just put all my good nikke on 2 teams to beat this guy?

[hollow lagoon]

intuition tells me ur very dead

ur goal prob consist of getting their team 1 to sucide p1 p2 on scarlet
live the nuke of team 2 (anc counter nuke)
and team 3 is kind of free kill ish

[young sphinx]

got it, thanks. Ill give these a try as well

[cedar sorrel]

Even if I change my teams around to beat t2 and t3?

[hollow lagoon]

team 2 and 3 u prob have a real chance

team 1 stacked their cp high so kind of rough

their team 2 have no nuke protection

problem is ur team 2 cp is low af

[cedar sorrel]

Yeah Im getting hella cp gapped in all forms of pvp

[hollow lagoon]

let me see

[cedar sorrel]

Like maybe moving my t1 to t2 is already enough to win? If cp is an issue I can maybe change drake and tvesti around which would get me 25k more cp

[hollow lagoon]

is ur vesti stronk?

[cedar sorrel]

Shes my 3rd strongest nikke

Rh is 50k tvesti 49k and rrh 48k

Wait thats 2nd lol

Also thinking about it maybe I shouldnt even do this yet because if I enter challenger Im definitely gonna get killed

So if I just wait till season end and then try I can maybe snipe the position

[hollow lagoon]

@cedar sorrel blanc guud?

[cedar sorrel]

Nah my blanc is 0 investment

[hollow lagoon]

lib and helm and redhood which 2 atk higher

[cedar sorrel]

Rh and lib

[hollow lagoon]

helm treasured?

[cedar sorrel]

Nope thats a wip

[hollow lagoon]

rip

sw lib and rh which 2 atk higher

[cedar sorrel]

I just unlocked her through bonus recruit. Never showed up from wishlist

[hollow lagoon]

acuallt it dosnt matter

[cedar sorrel]

Rh lib tho

[hollow lagoon]

can u shwo me ur highest units in terms of cp

[lunar pawn]

think this wipes blanc before she bursts in 2RL?

[hollow lagoon]

try and find out

[lunar pawn]

curious, I am

[cedar sorrel]

After sw it 20k and below

After rrh its 34k and below

[lunar pawn]

mm nvm can't wipe

since she's not in p1 to p3

and wiping jackal before she can b1 in 2RL seems far fetched

[hollow lagoon]

@cedar sorrel check the cp

[cedar sorrel]

Bababooey

[cedar sorrel]

I dont own noah sorry bro

[shell hazel]

get noah

[hollow lagoon]

get noah

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/castorice-honkai-star-rail-star-rail-rice-fried-rice-gif-15126117275146411567

[cedar sorrel]

I used my selector on jackal

[hollow lagoon]

pilgrim selector 55 bucks

[shell hazel]

noah wasn't in that one anyway

[cedar sorrel]

I am definitely not doing that

[hollow lagoon]

not winning is okay

[shell hazel]

wishlist noah

[cedar sorrel]

She been on my wishlist

[shell hazel]

wishlist her again

[hollow lagoon]

then pull noah

[lunar pawn]

is it? didn't even check price

[shell hazel]

it is lol

[quaint granite]

[shell hazel]

zanta we're being invaded!

[cedar sorrel]

The game just doesnt want to give me the good pvp units. But I have crazy luck with pve units

[lunar pawn]

55 bucks and you can only pick from the shabby pilgrim pool they refuse to buff

[hollow lagoon]

he's one of mine its cool

[shell hazel]

I know that's why I said we're being invaded

[arctic jewel]

If you want to spend 60 bucks, you can get a guaranteed Noah

[cedar sorrel]

I dont spend money on this game

[hollow lagoon]

not winning is a lifestyle choice

[arctic jewel]

[lunar pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[shell hazel]

I don't either. f2p btw

[hollow lagoon]

vile fresh water aquatic mammal

[cedar sorrel]

I also started in the middle of resident evil event so I guess I'm new

[quaint granite]

You have Ada right?

[shell hazel]

you have some good units all the same

[cedar sorrel]

So if Im stuck at top14 in spa then so be it

[shell hazel]

for f2p it's good

[cedar sorrel]

Yea she was my carry in early game lol

[quaint granite]

Thats great now you aren't struggling as much

[shell hazel]

sync wins in the end, as efficient f2p who pushes campaign you can still do well and top 10 or so is possible

[quaint granite]

Noah still gives you a boost though

[cedar sorrel]

My team at some point was n102 flora privmaid ada and idk anymore

[hollow lagoon]

i'm struggeling how do i win

[shell hazel]

💳

[quaint granite]

Pinne Squad

[hollow lagoon]

shiet pinne squad

[quaint granite]

https://tenor.com/view/doro-dorothy-nikke-goddess-of-victory-doro-nikke-ドロ-gif-2769997707736412017

[cedar sorrel]

Ive been holding onto all my.boxes. i feel like the people in my pool popped all of them already

[shell hazel]

you should open the boxes when you get stuck to get unstuck

[cedar sorrel]

All is a lie. Sometimes I pop some to progress in camp

Yeah exactly

[shell hazel]

make sure you buy the hard mode extra tries young man

[hollow lagoon]

cant win

[cedar sorrel]

I didnt do it in resident evil cuz I didnt know but ever since Im doing it

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-mr-burns-evil-plan-evil-smile-excellent-gif-5090669

[quaint granite]

Need those dolls upgraded

[shell hazel]

have you got biscuit built?

[cedar sorrel]

I havent pulled biscuit either

[quaint granite]

Noah and Biscuit is important in PvP

[cedar sorrel]

Like my pvp SSS tiers are severely lacking

[shell hazel]

that SG team is stupid easy if you have biscuit

[hollow lagoon]

i'm out of doll mats modernia took them all

[cedar sorrel]

Railtracer is mega cook for getting me to top 11-14 with his teams and my pool lol

[lunar pawn]

what do you think I can run here? won 3x with diff teams but none of them felt like a sure win #pvp-arena message

[cedar sorrel]

Trust me shes on my wishlist

[hollow lagoon]

that first version os sw was sure win

idk why u deviate

[lunar pawn]

did you not watch the vids?

[hollow lagoon]

i did, u indom slower thus u win

that's the final truth

[lunar pawn]

so you didn't pay attention

[hollow lagoon]

its a case of

dont blame the unit blame ur sync

[lunar pawn]

no cp penalty either

[hollow lagoon]

try same battle if ur same sync and see if its still yikes then

[cedar sorrel]

My pulls made sure to dodge all the pvp units

[quaint granite]

TU:Vesti is a good start

[cedar sorrel]

True shes insane in both gamemodes

[lunar pawn]

wdym both, she's kinda garbage in pve

[quaint granite]

You have Maid Mast? Miranda is not important at the moment

[cedar sorrel]

I have her shes also lb once

[cedar sorrel]

U mean bossing? Cuz in story shes absurd

[quaint granite]

put her and Maid:Anchor on wish list, they are the best

[hollow lagoon]

nope

she's mid and gets beat out by neutral options

[lunar pawn]

used her in hard mode story, she's overhyped

[hollow lagoon]

she can do good in high deficit just cuz tru damage

but high deficit is a not a permnant thing

[shell hazel]

there's several chapters she's great as fire weak

[cedar sorrel]

Yea and Im always at a deficit lol

[quaint granite]

TU:Vesti is best at clearing mobs

[shell hazel]

she's still generally very good I run her sometimes in the campaign bits

[cedar sorrel]

Just to lb?

[lunar pawn]

in theory yes, in practice the constant turnover of enemies makes her auto firing whack

I feel you can clear the content without tvesti if you're clearing with her

[hollow lagoon]

this is what i find, not every person on the plant do pause tech like @shell hazel

[quaint granite]

yeah get them to mlb if you can or collect other Nikkes if you want to

pray RNG

[lunar pawn]

nah, if you're gonna be a tryhard with pause tech then you can 1000% clear without tvesti, people only run her because she usually brings the cp a bit lower so tryhards can strive for that lowest cp clear

[cedar sorrel]

I know mmast does buff from caster atk so dupes help. Same for anchor? I can remove eunwha from the wishlist and miranda if need be but I really want the eunwha lobby screen lol

[hollow lagoon]

bro is into sports panties i can respect that

[quaint granite]

Totally cultured

[cedar sorrel]

She is something to look at

[umbral crown]

Owo

[hollow lagoon]

just tell me something degenerate and ill prob agree with you except pdf styff

[lunar pawn]

does nayuta burst hit the entire enemy team?

[quaint granite]

yes

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

i'd be curious how this worked Doppel

[hollow lagoon]

its a aoe yes

[cedar sorrel]

Me too my reset attributes on rrh have been going horrendous

[lunar pawn]

didn't try, isn't it gonna suffer due to blanc burst?

[hollow lagoon]

if u watch the vid, his helm dies even on ada buff, moran will be the deciding factor

[shell hazel]

heal + moran should work similar to your hell/lib version

[cedar sorrel]

I understand why everyone complains about rocks because this took like a lot pf rocks and it isst even optimal

[shell hazel]

but more stable pre-burst due to biscuit

[cedar sorrel]

Maybe I should.just give up on it and start rolling lines on other pieces

[quaint granite]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-impressive-very-nice-coping-patrick-bateman-gif-26518058

[shell hazel]

moran and noah would essentially be invincible before you burst

[cedar sorrel]

High quality gif

[hollow lagoon]

prob be the most stable comp

[quaint granite]

ikr lmao

[lunar pawn]

#pvp-arena message I ran smth similar here

[hollow lagoon]

biscuit does gib moran mroe staying power, but its a lower powered helm burst

so sw off burst need up make up the damage

she prob could

[shell hazel]

yes you did this is same concept but less risky due to biscuit immunity on top

[cedar sorrel]

Should I just move on to this piece and lock the ele? Because my reset attributes lock has been horrible on that other piece

[lunar pawn]

I'll give it a shot

[quaint granite]

Moran gave that Vesti a big punch in the face

[shell hazel]

your helm/lib version isn't native 2RL btw needs some quantums to make it so

[hollow lagoon]

my helm just dosn't die to the typical vesti so kind of moot

[hollow lagoon]

salad

trade mark

[lunar pawn]

yea I had to run 2-3 quantums to reach an alleged 2RL but it didn't really, Idk why, nikke deck may be wrong

[hollow lagoon]

[quaint granite]

Its really good for the time being

[cedar sorrel]

Hmm

I can also go for the gloves and shoe then theyre just 2 lines

And try get a good 3rd line to then lock

[hollow lagoon]

why lock a low roll ele

and what part are u not happy about

line 2 def?

[shell hazel]

who are you rolling this for?

[cedar sorrel]

Lock 3rd line cuz its hardest to get. Also its rrh

[hollow lagoon]

man i kept a line 3 def

[cedar sorrel]

Im striving for 12/12 units cuz why not

[hollow lagoon]

i woudl keep the piece and move on

[cedar sorrel]

Ill do that for now then

[hollow lagoon]

but u could have infinity rocks and not care

[cedar sorrel]

Def line is an eyesore tho

[hollow lagoon]

if u have the infinite rocks cheat please let me know

i like me def lines

it does something

[cedar sorrel]

I have the used all my rocks cheat

And then get 1 rock during full burst

[lunar pawn]

[hollow lagoon]

oh ur paying child support to @umbral belfry too then

[shell hazel]

[cedar sorrel]

Like isnt full burst x2 how tf do I get 1 rock

[hollow lagoon]

inb4 the sw force misindom

[cedar sorrel]

Was I getting 0.5 rock without full burst live

[hollow lagoon]

cuz u some times get no rock

[shell hazel]

for meta units can be worth but for most too expensive to go for 12/12

[cedar sorrel]

I can tell

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/shh-quiet-loki-tom-hiddleston-cute-gif-22001570

[shell hazel]

rapi is OK with just the atk and ele there for now though

[hollow lagoon]

he's not doing solo raid yet

[shell hazel]

mainly if doing that you want a good line 3 so you can improve on it later on

[cedar sorrel]

I dont even know how people do this for every good char and every niche char and then everything that comes oit after

Actually I do know they pay money

[hollow lagoon]

you dont

[lunar pawn]

had false hope, then tvesti humbled me

[cedar sorrel]

Not winning is okay

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

damn was close haha

[lunar pawn]

I really cooked a mean defense

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel loooks liek the salad is a magical thing

[shell hazel]

slower indom it is then

[umbral belfry]

[lunar pawn]

think I tried 2 slower indom teams which are rng

[shell hazel]

unless helm lib somehow makes the moran win reliably? it feels like it essentially winds up at the same point

[lunar pawn]

no sure wins yet

[cedar sorrel]

JP Mustang actually jumpscared me a bit

Ive never heard that cuz I just play ENG

[lunar pawn]

missing out on DIO's voice

[shell hazel]

similar concept doppel

jackal and blanc will be immune so no risk there

give snow white a vigor cube so rapi has less hp hopefully

[lunar pawn]

at this point why not

[cedar sorrel]

I changed it I think cuz of mmast burst line in jp

[lunar pawn]

gonna be funny if biscuit steals the indom

[shell hazel]

shouldn't be possible

put her at p4 if you want but I think nothing would be hitting her at p5

[lunar pawn]

tempering on redpi, vigor on SW, sounds about right?

[ripe aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-angry-kid-congrats-nice-happy-for-you-gif-16045257244806990422

[shell hazel]

yeah, run with bisc at p4 for certainty on that link will be on SW

[shell hazel]

swap 4/5 then send

[lunar pawn]

there, cus thelm shots

[shell hazel]

thelm should target p1

[lunar pawn]

right, then why

[shell hazel]

but yep hit it

[lunar pawn]

leggo

[shell hazel]

SG's on def target p5

[cedar sorrel]

No blue or black line

[shell hazel]

SR's on def target p1

[lunar pawn]

yep

[ripe aurora]

Getting ele+atk is the hard part

Black/blue lines come

[cedar sorrel]

Yea I did get pretty lucky with that tbh

[timid blaze]

Can I please have help with building special and rookie arena teams

[lunar pawn]

I got the blanc bug, nice

[shell hazel]

haha

maybe we fed them a bit too well with rapi as well

rapi feeds jackal and that opponent team is quick as it is

[lunar pawn]

blanc already bursted in this still

but yea, if it's too close, blanc will usually throw her burst into the void

because why not

[quaint granite]

She indom the enemy instead

[lunar pawn]

why I also don't wanna try any SGs here

[lunar pawn]

old soline helping the enemy

[shell hazel]

you could try a diff main indom target

same thing but flex which dps is at 3/5

[quaint granite]

who is it on btw

[lunar pawn]

if I'm flexing why not go tvesti

[shell hazel]

you don't want to be too fast but you could try it

[lunar pawn]

ah yea

[quaint granite]

flipping the coin?

[shell hazel]

or sw as the main indom target, cindy can flex in to keep you a bit slower

should have good cp and low gen

also as a defender I think she's less likely to yoink indom

[cedar sorrel]

Rrh

Shes currently 3atk 3ele 2ammo

[lunar pawn]

will try tomorrow, out of attempts today

[fickle jetty]

[lunar pawn]

best defense keeps you guessing

[cedar sorrel]

U need more cp bro

[shell hazel]

nice to have a challenge all my rookie stuff is ez lol

[quaint granite]

Now I am jealous lmao, nice one though

[cedar sorrel]

💪

I guess Ill move on from her cuz everyone is hyping.it.up lol

[lunar pawn]

and I'll go listen to baby got back

[cedar sorrel]

Head looking like yung bratz

[austere marsh]

Would this team work? Or would Rumani take the Blanc buff? The link would be Jackal Vesti Centi

[lunar pawn]

is that 2rl

[worn ridge]

It should be 2rl

[lunar pawn]

would switch vesti and rumani pos then

give rumani a vigor cube if you feel she might steal the indom but it's unlikely

[worn ridge]

2.5 rl lol

[languid mason]

what determines a good pvp team, i was never able to make a team of my own and would just copy others

[lunar pawn]

feed should get him to 2rl, but yea, not natural 2.5

[shell hazel]

yeah jackal feed will get that to 2RL but also assumed no CS on vesti

if vesti has even a little bit it veers into 2RL nautrally anyway

[austere marsh]

Vesti has 17.62% CS yeah

[raven plover]

one that beat the enemy

[vapid lake]

https://tenor.com/view/ohh-i-under-black-guy-gif-1247944034220562367

[worn ridge]

Soda should be able stop jackal from bursting ? also could with blanc but the rng sucks

[lunar pawn]

At same speed jackal won't get stunned, plus that team is a bit faster than 2RL

[worn ridge]

💰 🐳

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel @tropic summit cursed cook

[lunar pawn]

Those look like fat empanadas

[umbral crown]

the good synergy in the team and is able to burst in time to defeat most of the enemy units or have the sustain to kill after burst

[hollow lagoon]

similar but filled with chive and tofu and meat

[terse abyss]

ive tried snow white burst and its kinda lackluster in pvp 🤔

[azure star]

looks like my rookie group starting to beat my 300k cp team , I better increase it to 350k cp

[azure star]

It’s great wdym

Unless you mean the older units

[terse abyss]

a lot weaker than vesti it seems

[azure star]

Well

SWHA im my experience isn’t for taking on vesti head on unless your giving invul or indom. Rip , she’s good at being a delayed burst that attacks once the opponent has blown their load

[terse abyss]

so probably need blanc in the team i guess

[azure star]

I run swha in scarlets p1 spot with Blanc and RH

[terse abyss]

i like the speed thats about it

[lunar pawn]

She's good as a battery and offburst dps, though she can be good as main dps in some situations

[tulip quest]

As long as you can eat it good enuf for me

[hollow lagoon]

Taste not bad but cursed

[tulip quest]

can eat shud be okay

Unless thats with too much seasoning n stuff like fast food

FAST Life

[hollow lagoon]

Nope

My mom hates heavy seasoning

[quick lake]

9 rocks wasted, got nothing

[rustic sandal]

could anyone suggest a rookie arena team to start me off?

[quick lake]

Nayuta SW Drake Anis Pepper

No need to worry too much about pvp this early. Pushing campaign most impt for more outpost levels 👍

[umbral crown]

kinda same

but helm got atk and black ammo, need to reroll for blue/black and upgrade her cp to 200k in CA

[swift mango]

So you don't have good teams.

[raven plover]

its true

[keen vapor]

Hoboman proving it's nitro status again

[raven plover]

a kind guy gave me nitro because I said I love mast

[umbral crown]

free nitro

[languid mason]

any team builders here :)

[lunar pawn]

@sacred verge

[raven plover]

nah not him

[hollow lagoon]

I can give a cancer untested thing if u want

[lunar pawn]

[languid mason]

hit me

[hollow lagoon]

Anyone else get red dot on outpost when opening game?

[sacred verge]

[hollow lagoon]

Syncless level 1 Emma

[charred quail]

@swift mango I won. Ur pvp skills are busted.

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/dorochill-gif-14415927157981314889

[charred quail]

Im reading pvp fundamentals rn so that i can get some knowledge on pvp and maybe increase gem income a bit in sp arena from it. if i have any questions, ill ask in here

[swift mango]

do experiments in rookie to gain experience for SpA. Don't be afraid of losing there.

[charred quail]

👍

[plain kayak]

Hey everyone, what do those percentage numbers displayed on Nikkei when you enable ShowData mean? Are they % burst generation?

[swift mango]

yeah. It's the % of the burst gauge at that specific time frame. 100% means you burst.

More doesn't do any. Just aim for 100%

[plain kayak]

Okay, thank you!!

[spiral onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/mando-way-this-is-the-way-mandalorian-star-wars-gif-18467370

[spiral onyx]

If one were to somehow tally my SP Arena win rate, it'd probably be under 30%. For every winning cook, there's at least 4-5 failed cooks.

[onyx scaffold]

how did u reroll your snow white gears?
im kinda curious cuz all of them have atk line 3 and ele line 1

[quick lake]

means cs% on OLs. Click top right to see

[gaunt timber]

Hey everyone, what charge speed percentage is needed for this?

Yeah it has multiple tiers

[quick lake]

8/11/15/18/21/23/25

[gaunt timber]

So which tier is needed for 2rl?

Just 15% charge speed? Or full 25%

[quick lake]

I think for Vesti is like 18-21+. Your Besti will always be the limiting unit, so more cs% in Besti generally always makes the team faster

[gaunt timber]

Yeah noticed she is the deciding factor when factoring other units charge speed too. Just wasnt sure what tier i should aim for for her

Appreciate the insight tho

[quick lake]

Vesti teams doesnt really need to be exactly 2RL tbh. 2.2-2.3RL with 11-18%++ cs is fine. All we need is to B2 before opponent’s 2RL B3

We want Blanc’s indom or Noah’s shield before opponent’s nuke. That’s all that matters

Similar logic with Liberalio as well

[gaunt timber]

Yeah trying to avoid a jackal link for now tho so sooner better to make sure she doesnt die is what I was hoping for

Got a weaker try hard blowing through gems to take my spot so trying to make it as painful as possible for them so experimenting teams

[quick lake]

Moran Noah HelmT Vesti flex
2rl indom SW/Vesti
Scar Soda maybe

I also ran like 2RL nayuta RH nuke

[gaunt timber]

Yeah I did nayuta helm rh 2rl for a while and it works decently well instead of indom vesti

Debating what to do with scarlet honestly, tried putting in p5 spot to avoid siren stun?

[urban mulch]

does sw kinda achieve the same thing as vesti

[quick lake]

roll away ammo

[onyx scaffold]

[quick lake]

cs% doesn’t affect her, but similar yea

[proven marsh]

How do i counter a team like this again? Was doing fine before, also using the same team. Maybe sa team power gap is just too much?

[onyx scaffold]

this snow team also loses against SG

[urban mulch]

deficit prob destroying you even if you bursting first

your scarlet burst i imagine isnt wiping and then sgs just execute you

would be easiest to see where the issue is if you just went through it with quick battle off

[restive heart]

the deficit too huge... 18.6% cp deficit super huge

[proven marsh]

Yeahh figured as much. Dude probably emptied their stash of dust to level up.

Sorry. Quick battle is usually turned off for the others i know i can beat.

[fathom rock]

Bruh/10 lineup, 4 of my units died from vestiTU without deficit

I'm washed

Ded before burst

[tropic summit]

they're bursting with biscuit and s.anis on 3RL, it gives you a lot of leeway to pad it out, you can remove trina and biscuit for higher CP units, all you need is scarlet on RH buff and jackal in p5

[tropic summit]

average vestiTU experience

[fathom rock]

No wonder no one hits me on my na spa anymore

[tropic summit]

yeh you can gain some speed and change it to double threat

go ahead

use siren to prevent blanc indom and ensure you're 2RL to punish it before SWHA gets going, noah will prevent most of their damage while you can safely wipe them behind the shield

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/castorice-honkai-star-rail-star-rail-rice-fried-rice-gif-15126117275146411567

[fathom rock]

I think we wanna know if that team wins not how to win

[tropic summit]

the whole point is to make an optimal team instead of weird cook

why take chances if you can just ensure the win

[fathom rock]

I'd just kill blanc with besti

[tropic summit]

ye that's an option or SG it

[jagged mesa]

i won that, i just wanted to pick your brain. the goal was to test interactions

[rose kayak]

is there a simple answer for what the best teams are for Rookie + SP Arena if you have every Nikke?

[onyx scaffold]

Check pin

[nimble root]

Thanks! I maxed out all those units from the teams you made me way back then, and I've got every cube and things like Quantum lvl 7, etc

[onyx scaffold]

quantum is useless

[nimble root]

I've been using it for awhile now

[covert lintel]

@swift mango This thing is so hard fr
I spent 17rocks just for 1 ED

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• jackal siren scarlet trina xmaiden
• nayuta centi helmt emilia rh
• noise noah vestiTU lib rumani

Notes

• get SWHA up to speed, can improve one of the teams
• get laplace treasured
• invest in rosanna

[tropic summit]

build any of these teams:
#pvp-arena message

prefer 2RL and teams that involve vestiTU and SWHA

[rose kayak]

Thank a lot! who would you swap Snow for?

[tropic summit]

can sub lib or xmaiden as they're both flex batteries but give less burst gen than SWHA

you'll also have much more variants open once she's available, can make several more defense patterns

[nimble root]

Which of these teams would I be putting SWHA on? I've got 400 pity so I'm probably gonna wait until the last day to grab her(I've currently done 26 10 pulls without a single SSR spark on her banner, she literally hates me )

[tropic summit]

as i said, you can replace lib or xmaiden for SWHA

turn T1 into natural 2RL with added early pressure

or turn T3 into natural 2RL if your vesti doesn't have 4%CS

pick the first if your vestiTU has the CS%

[nimble root]

Thanks! I didn't know all I needed was 4% CS for Vesti, I actually got lucky with a 5.8% CS line on her

[tropic summit]

without CS% she loses out on burst gen to help reaching 2RL

[nimble root]

You're the GOAT, I really appreciate it! I need to come by here more often

[tropic summit]

say the truth, you probably sold him feet pics

[wind kelp]

why on this one!? ....although the elem lines landed pretty sweet :p

[plain kayak]

What do the indicators 4~8 and 0%-0% mean?

[onyx scaffold]

@swift mango vesti ideal OL from your opinion?

[misty finch]

This wins?

Not sure how SBS vs biscuit works with linked units

And is there a risk that siren targets blanc randomly?

[gaunt pulsar]

distributed dmg doesn't deal anything agains't immune, only against indom

[misty finch]

So the linked units will also not take damage?

[gaunt pulsar]

mmm, i think yes they dont double guessing myself now, but afair as long as she shoots into immune target no one gets any dmg because there nothing to distribute, she has to deal dmg for it to be distributes so it works against indom but not immune

[misty finch]

Should still win even if the damage gets spread right?

[gaunt pulsar]

if your indom setup is right - yes

[misty finch]

Ight I did win 🙏

[gaunt pulsar]

sbs is do be weak this days worked for me great at the start of my pvp journey but when we all became more invested - I don't like that she cannot kill without any buffs, it's pretty much mandatory to use her with red hood for her to be somewhat lethal

[misty finch]

SBS died before I could see what was going on with this 😭

[misty finch]

really damn 😔

But you might as well use nayuta at that point 😔

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/gülmek-komik-gif-12950352696137374051

[unique valley]

Am I cool to throw my roster in here and get some help with arena on both the Normal and special arena?

I also have the 2026 SSR Selection box and was thinking of getting Jackal as she seems to be the absolute best PvP unit from what I can gather

[ruby iris]

Are these good? (I changed my 3rd team)

I had nayuta and mihara in there before

[onyx scaffold]

what is rosanna doing there

[unique valley]

Is this a website you use? I keep seeing this and idk how to do it myself

[ruby iris]

Yes nikke deck

[onyx scaffold]

are you admitting that u never read the pin in the channel?

[ruby iris]

Chilling (I swap her and siren normally lol)

[unique valley]

Yes, I am admitting that i do not read and am a total bot at this game

[onyx scaffold]

yeah u can but i suggest doing that when this guy is around

[unique valley]

Ah okay, thank you. I will keep my eye out for when they are active

[onyx scaffold]

snow white will die in 1 second then u will have no burst gen and slowly die

[ruby iris]

Damn... so unless I go 2RL it's a no go, or should I place Bay in P1?

[onyx scaffold]

that is not ideal but that is better. u know how biscuit works?

[ruby iris]

Yessir

[onyx scaffold]

also if u are not bursting with cinderella. why even use her?

[onyx scaffold]

im saying that. u should put a defender in slot 1. and rumani is the better option.

and only use bay in 2RL team

[ruby iris]

Oh okay, I was using Rum-Mihara-Nayuta/Siren/Blanc-Biscuit-Cindy but I just got her treasure so I kinda wanted to try her out

I guess I should try her in CA next time

[onyx scaffold]

look up for bay team in CA for ideas

[grand plaza]

Can siren stop 2.5rl noah?

[rustic sandal]

I need a new defense team soon. I got Rosanna but at what cost? Still missing Jackal, Rumani, and Moran.

[tropic summit]

yes any B2 or B3 that is not 2RL 11%CS team wide and doesn't have noise taunt priority or moran redirect on 2RL will get stunned

[tropic summit]

the last 2 numbers are bullet feed count and burst gen feed % against jackal

[fair pivot]

Between Trina, Noise, Moran what's the best to use my selector on?
Current team cores are 1. Scarlet Jackal Blanc 2. noah biscuit SW 3. Nayuta with Vesti

[onyx scaffold]

moran. then dont use scarlet

[tropic summit]

moran is more of a CA unit, trina and noise are used in SP arena more than moran

make the choice based on whether you need to boost your SP arena or just want units that can help you in CA

[fair pivot]

I've yet to get past the group stage in CA

I guess I'll go trina since she has some use in raids too

[tropic summit]

that's reasonable

she's very helpful on attack teams too

meanwhile moran needs a team around her

and far more expensive to build

[grand plaza]

May I ask your opinions for this defense?

[tropic summit]

T1 skip
T2 siren weak, SG weak, can be noahed or indommed against
T3 lacks anti nuke, can be nuked, can be indommed against

i'd say rethink T2 and T3, turn one of the 2 into early pressure and the other into anti nuke with stalling

[grand plaza]

Is there even a counter to indom other than also having an indom?

[tropic summit]

you're probably using a wrong way of thinking

you're not gonna win defense, you need to make your defense although as difficult as possible

right now T2 and T3 are serving an easy time to the attacker

turn those 2 teams way more difficult to deal with

start by reducing the main weaknesses, siren weak and SG weak

you're not gonna resist indom hard carries, those are really hard to defend against

you should also introduce rosanna asap into either of those 2 teams, as she can give you leeway against indom and attacker oriented pressure

[bitter dagger]

anyone know how to counter this?

[tropic summit]

also T1 is overcommited, move helm elsewhere and put a differen flex battery

[grand plaza]

Alright now I understand a bit better. Why second team is Siren weak tho, isn't 2rl already enough?

[grand plaza]

Yeah I switch it SW instead

[tropic summit]

noah biscuit vestitu helmt jackal
noah biscuit swha helmt jackal
noah biscuit flexDPSB3 flex flex (2RL)

[tropic summit]

2RL noah in p1 is siren weak unless you've 11%CS team wide

since you've SWHA, that team is not even natural 2RL but more of a 2.1-2.3RL team

[tropic summit]

avoid having water code linked units tho, makes your link electric weak... and eletric dominates arena already

[grand plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-peter-griffin-damn-it-this-is-too-hard-too-hard-this-is-hard-gif-26564961

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/kanna-kamui-miss-kobayashi-dragon-maid-hey-yay-anine-gif-1013234361731925763

[grand plaza]

I mean I am barely reaching 2rl with SW/Jackal/Rumani, unless I give up blanc I don't think I can take out SW can I?

[tropic summit]

your vestiTU has 4%CS? (or more)

[grand plaza]

Near %9

[tropic summit]

then you already ignoring an important detail

[tropic summit]

add that flash icon to vestiTU, as your CS% enables her to hit 23% burst gen on 2RL

[grand plaza]

[tropic summit]

the example above i gave you is essentially

jackal indom flexclipSG blanc flexclipRL

[covert lintel]

Wha
Now vesti only needs 4%?
Why it always cs deflation

[grand plaza]

May I ask what exactly flash icon means? because I also know that different cs values matters

[tropic summit]

it's CS% threshold

[grand plaza]

I mean is it always the same value?

[tropic summit]

8% for helm
4% cs for vesti
8% (or 16% or 25%) for emi
15% for every battery
11% for team wide siren resistance

[grand plaza]

Hmm so site automatically applies depends on the character ok

[tropic summit]

it assumes you know what you doing to a decent degree ye

[grand plaza]

I have %4 for helm, I will try to make %8 until next SR

[tropic summit]

there are some units that have unique CS% requirements for min/maxing without having to hit the generic threshold, like helm

[grand plaza]

Maybe this site is just better for such details?

https://nikke.top/

[tropic summit]

sure use w/e you more comfy with

4 SS at a time

[lunar pawn]

4% cs for vesti only?

[arctic jewel]

@tropic summit what are the more common teams for the new Snow White? Thinking about building a team for her

[grand plaza]

About this team, only enough invested unit around maiden speed is Drake. Is it worth using her considering feed?

Jackal + Vesti has %8 cs + jackal feed, I guess this team safe from sg + siren as well.

[tropic summit]

4% or 8% or 11%

anything past that is sort of overkill

[tropic summit]

ye that's fine, the team still serves the purpose of enforcing a rosanna or having to deal with vestiTU indom

[grand plaza]

Hmm thanks, I am gonna keep cooking then

[tropic summit]

here's 3 examples, although in general you'll want her indommed or behind a noah, else can use her as offburst DPS and/or battery

T1 is early pressure glass cannon
T2 indom variant with hyperbuff, SWHA needs to be linked
T3 generic stall, assume noise is linked if using jackal else p5 can be any flex B1 that does not feed

[grand plaza]

The one issue I am having is "game makers"

Like Jackal or Blanc, I used them on first team. Now I have Biscuit, Noah (which I just dropped ) and kinda Siren and Rapunzel I guess?

Like if I use Biscuit + Noah it creates a solid team but then 3rd team becomes weak af. I am not sure how to create against SG without Biscuit anyway. I don't have such build defender right now like Moran, I literally couldn't drop her

[real abyss]

i dunno how to position

[tropic summit]

use nayuta in p1

or just sacc with rosanna

or use double threat teams

avoid using noah in p1 if your team doesn't have 11CS% team wide, as it's just easy siren fodder otherwise

[grand plaza]

May I ask what these 2 means

[tropic summit]

typical example of double threat with rosanna

[quick lake]

T1: Noise Noah Centi Vesti Drake
T2: Rumani SW xMaiden(or clipSG) Blanc HelmT
T3: Scarlet Siren Trina Lap Jackal

[arctic jewel]

Hmmm 🤔

[tropic summit]

@grand plaza

opponent here has to assume he's gonna either let scarlet nuke or vesti nuke, assume he tries to kill both, he still has snow white bursting, and even if he does kill them he's gonna procc rosanna, meaning he has to deal with early pressure at same time

[arctic jewel]

What scares me is Rosanna one shotting SW

Or electric weakness in general

[shell hazel]

the triple threat

[grand plaza]

I simply don't attack if I see a team like this

[tropic summit]

ye that's what you need to do with your def teams

[shell hazel]

well if you noah it successfully they have zero defence against you

[tropic summit]

they need to be expensive or tedious to deal with

[shell hazel]

it's glass cannon essentially

[tropic summit]

good, they're now without a noah, the other 2 teams can be built on that assumption

the whole point is to make them spend cards

since you cannot win, make it is as hard as possible

you've to make the opponent miss their attack

[tropic summit]

that's nothing you can do about, opponent will always have at least 1 rosanna, 1 indom team and potentially 1 stall team

build your teams on the assumption you've to deal with those combos

[arctic jewel]

Makes sense, make them commit too hard

[grand plaza]

Hmmmm I think this is a good one

Alice + Helm has %12 cs, Anti SG, has nuke

Weak against nuke but it is what it is I guess?

[tropic summit]

weak to slow cindy, weak to siren unless you've CS% on noah, helmt, biscuit and rumani
can be kited and can be outDPSed... i wouldn't go with this

highly suggest you stick to

1 rosanna team
1 indom vesti team
1 proper stall team or 1 stun/early pressure team

[grand plaza]

When you mean %12 cs, its only for batteries?

[tropic summit]

use nikke top and you'll see how many units you need with CS% to get noah to B2 before siren lands stun

from that i team i think you need noah biscuit helmt and rumani on 11%CS average, helmt can be 8%

[grand plaza]

Wait.. everyone need about %11 cs? I literally summed them

[tropic summit]

ye ofc

[grand plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/shit-leslie-jordan-gif-11334450875675318506

[tropic summit]

that's why i said don't bother and use noah with a noise or moran

solves the issue way more easily

moran noah vestiTU flex flex 2RL
noise noah vestiTU flex flex 2RL

don't bother bursting with helmT on defense, that's just slow cindy free win

that is unless you've a B1 and/or a B2 that applies pressure or a gimmic (stun, rosanna, nayuta...)

example of a team that is siren resistant

as you can see all the units minus RH needs that CS%

what happens if you drop any of those units CS%?

noah is no longer bursting in time

[shell hazel]

Noah! you had one job

besto shieldo

[grand plaza]

Looks like I need to invest on some pvp units, I don't have Moran, I am not invested on Rosanna or Noise etc.

So far SR %3 was my focus and now I finally reaching it, I can spare some for pvp.

[hollow lagoon]

How can u live this day and age without rosana

[tropic summit]

that's fine you don't actually really need CS% to win in SParena, although they do add difficulty to your defs

[grand plaza]

About this, these 3 dots are b1 /b2 /b3 right?

[tropic summit]

getting rosanna and noise although would greatly be to your benefit

[tropic summit]

ye that's noah B2 timing, it's after being stunned by siren

[grand plaza]

So far never dropped top 10 with sheel willpower

[grand plaza]

I can give SR5 doll + base OL for CS

After all the reruns and older units I just dropped I FINALLY have some to spare.

[signal hull]

Man, how did my Anis survive again... (Rosanna was under Blanc's protection)?

[lunar pawn]

#pvp-arena message what can I run here?

[hollow lagoon]

Oh god top 10

[tropic summit]

maybe you're getting some funny interactions with your indom

that's rookie?

[lunar pawn]

yea

[hollow lagoon]

Rail cooook

[gaunt pulsar]

no way anis skill is active, it needs 30s

[grand plaza]

Honestly I don't even imagine above top6, they are simply whales with at least 20 sync level difference and usually more.

[tropic summit]

punish p2 and p3 with splashers and rosanna, then have noah catch helmT nuke and stall them out while they indom auto your p1

[tropic summit]

then i dunno

hidden secret passive of SR anis

an anis surviving a vestiTU blanc buffed nuke is fascinating

[lunar pawn]

smth like this?

[tropic summit]

ye sounds good, should be lethal on p2 and p3

[lunar pawn]

kudos

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

too slow, emma propaganda tho

[hollow lagoon]

Can’t be too slow is Emma diesKEKW:

[tropic summit]

oh you expect her to sacc once taunting

ye that'd kick you into 2RL

[hollow lagoon]

And boost Rosa

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/sora-cooking-food-wars-shokugeki-no-soma-fire-gif-17443420

[gaunt pulsar]

wouldn't noah taunt too with first shot? or emma still would have full priority on herself?

[raven plover]

bro has 25% cs emi

[tropic summit]

and a house unlike you

he be rich

[raven plover]

its so over

[hollow lagoon]

Wouldent matter, if ur Emma is level 1

I put wack positioning too for even more cursed look

It does spread damage out a bit to help things live

[gaunt pulsar]

oh it's not ca, thought it's some ca cook still would probably swap helm and rosa positions

[hollow lagoon]

Rosa positioning kinda irravalent cuz sw will
Break her cloak regardless

Here’s hoping units take a bit of time to turn because p5-01 target switch but I Wouldent know if it happens

[lunar pawn]

got rosanna's doll to max

[arctic jewel]

Anis broken confirmed

[plain kayak]

Guys, what is mean atker?

sounds like DPS, but it doesn't seem to be

[lunar pawn]

what's the context

[plain kayak]

My friend said Rosanna aims at the atker, not dps . but I’m not exactly sure atker mean

[tiny scroll]

There is Attacker, Defender and Support

Rossanna targets Attacker

[crystal flicker]

Yes, Attacker is in game class that specialized at dealing damage
DPS is any in game character that can deal high damage

[tropic summit]

s.anis is a supporter, but also a DPS
cindy is a defender, but can also partially DPS

siren is a supporter and can also DPS

nayuta is a supporter and can partially nuke and DPS

the list goes on...

[plain kayak]

So that means Rosanna can’t aim at characters like S.Anis, Cinderella, Siren,...? I understand now—thanks guys

Is there a list that shows which characters are DEF and support, but can also function as DPS?

[grand plaza]

@tropic summit What do you think about this team?

I think its overall a pretty decent team that try to beat lack of cs with alternative

[crystal flicker]

Some funny match

[worn ridge]

Mmm , i mean she focuses on killing the two stronger dps nikkes with the highest atk , but if the are not dps/attackers it will focus against defenders/healers but it wont be too much effective

[grand plaza]

My SR12 SW doll stares this with anger

[quick lake]

Prydwen has a list of all units eg Defender/Support/Attacker units. To mind only Cindy and xMaiden have good personal dmg

[shell hazel]

I had my moran beat a vesti indom as well but the vesti was bricked with 8 ammo

[plain kayak]

Thank sir

[shell hazel]

check out that sw damage lol

with helm lifesteal she could survive more ammo vesti maybe, but yeah won that I think purely on the time the opponent vesti spent reloading

[grand plaza]

Nvm I just saw link sign

[tropic summit]

siren weak, SG weak, rosanna weak, indom weak, not instant nuke so opponent can run 3RL and still be fine.... probably your worst team so far

do not run lib as main B3 on def unless she's indommed... and even then there are better indom on defense, namely vestiTU

[grand plaza]

That hurt

The thing is, I realized that I simply can't even create 2 anti-siren, anti sg etc. with characters I own. I might but that would make 3rd team totally trash.

[sullen dawn]

[plain kayak]

...

[tropic summit]

yep, as mentioned earlier just make them the hardest to beat possible, if you can't make 3 proper teams aim for 2 good ones and 1 fully CP stacked

[grand plaza]

Even my first team is anti-siren because of Rumani, I simply don't have CS lines to go against that

[tropic summit]

p1 b1 on 2RL is siren resistant though

that team is siren resistant bro

[grand plaza]

🤦‍♂️

Too much overloaded information lmao

[ashen basalt]

[grand plaza]

That was my current potantial build, I will try to create that 2 good teams

[tropic summit]

T1 perhaps is even too good, maybe change vestiTU for another good indom candidate, that way you can vestiTU in T2 or T3 behind a noise noah or even just as glass cannon

running scar-siren is also fine, that way you know opponent needs to use a bay or a noah at least

[grand plaza]

Sadly don't have Scarlet

[tropic summit]

then even more reason to move vesti from T1

[hollow lagoon]

Bully, why don’t go after the 25 ammo vestis

[grand plaza]

How about Lib instead I can also go SBS but she still easy to counter with Biscuit I guess

[tropic summit]

lib on defense is bad, too easy to deal with

as you mentioned, SBS instead can get p1 locked

go for something else

[shell hazel]

i'm not going after anyone anymore lol due to ded

[grand plaza]

I mean, I need someone who can work nicely with indom and also has somewhat decent burst gen, I don't think there are many candidates?

[tropic summit]

show me your box

[crystal flicker]

Snow White Alter 2

[quick lake]

or Vesti

[crystal flicker]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW5eTb6klUU

[grand plaza]

Characters below here simply don't have investment

[umbral belfry]

People keep saying sw is vesti 2.0 but emi=sw is right there!!

water, delayed burst, hitting multiple enemies

[quick lake]

I have no Emi, so Emi doesnt exist

[umbral belfry]

little did you know....same

if only we played earlier

[quick lake]

[quick lake]

I was there during Emi banner. Didnt pull her

Meanwhile Rem sits unused

[umbral belfry]

[umbral belfry]

why would you do that

[quick lake]

Cause i didn’t play pvp then

[lunar pawn]

tbf I got rem to mlb, and emi lb0

but got her still

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/played-yourself-dj-khaled-gif-11099992

[lunar pawn]

rule of thumb is get all collab chars, ask questions later

[umbral belfry]

[quick lake]

My best decision was getting Makima but not power

[grand plaza]

Noah gets the Siren stun even if she is not P1 because of taunt, right?

[quartz rover]

[lunar pawn]

depends if she's the only taunter, where siren is positioned, and your own taunt priorityy if more than 1 taunter

[quartz rover]

Man I wish Noah would spook me now

[lunar pawn]

you could go for the $55 pack ||"buy one of the pilgrim nikkes we killed so we don't have to buff them"||

[hollow hamlet]

2nd day in a row. Don't get some people.

[lunar pawn]

it's rookie, they could be testing teams

[hollow hamlet]

Nah they are one of two whales and they are trying to pad score for #1

[lunar pawn]

sad

[hollow hamlet]

What is Swole Whites ideal cube?

[umbral belfry]

noah alt

[lunar pawn]

10s teamwide invincibility

[swift mango]

You were there for makima banner even

[swift mango]

I have always used Rem less

[runic coral]

I heard snow white is good, where would I place her?

[swift mango]

Rapunzel is killed?
Technically, her brain is still there.

[swift mango]

She has good burst that need stalling Blanc, Bay, Noah to use.
Otherwise, she is similar burst gen to helmT and just use her like Anis, Centi.

[runic coral]

makes sense, does she deal burst after or before noah invuln drops?

[swift mango]

But yeah, the story is basically for money. They are too afraid of giving Pilgrim dupe out for silver mileage with treasure so they killed their body. So they could only have Alt, not treasure.

[keen vapor]

What other outcome there was from the last battle?

[swift mango]

That's why the story was all for money

[keen vapor]

That wasn't an answer

[swift mango]

It's easy to just pull technology from their ass to remake their bodies on the spot okay? It's every easy to write. Just like Emma newbody.

Just don't make improvements so it's not newbody.

or Alt

[lunar pawn]

the age of good nikke plots are over

[crystal flicker]

[lunar pawn]

this is basically the equivalent of the last seasons of game of thrones

[keen vapor]

Treasures cannon don't really go about becoming stronger other than mentally ...

[swift mango]

But you lost?

[swift mango]

But game play it does. It's all that matters.

[crystal flicker]

I lost 3 mirror and 1 slow Cindy lmao

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

Treasure basically shitkikan date day

nothing more, nothing less

[lunar pawn]

it's just about nikkes deepening their bond with the skk

[swift mango]

yeah, I meant you seemed sastified with the lost. using this emote.

[crystal flicker]

Yeah, I know I ain't gonna win against this whale

4 mirror, but he has more cores

[tame vessel]

i've come for echo

[swift mango]

@keen vapor

[keen vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177116972593463316/1441497155465515008/1026322546934698004.gif

[swift mango]

what is your synch now? Still stuck in ch35?

[keen vapor]

[worn ridge]

35-26 ? Why is that a hard one lol

[swift mango]

Idk, maybe balls or silencer

There was one hard stage in ch26 with 3 balls and 2 tanky high dmg, a bunch of one shooter pop up at the beginning. But not 25, I think ch25 hard stage was silencer.

[worn ridge]

Yeah i just checked thats the one , but its not that hard all depends of your cp and your timing with burst its a level that requieres skill

[keen vapor]

Is a level that requires no siren

[swift mango]

Ignore the 2 Silencers at the end, just nuke the boss with Rapipi burst. Delay bursting if the timing isn't right.

[keen vapor]

Haven't reach the end

[swift mango]

Siren is good against silencer though.

[swift mango]

kill the silencer at the begin. Uncheck auto aiming, switch to the nikke that the tanky dealer attack to cover them asap

Idk if I remember the right stage lol

[keen vapor]

Not against volleyballs

[swift mango]

it's a volleyball and silencer stage?

You could tank a round of volleyball by covering everyone too.

And ignore the volleyballs at the end to kill the boss as well.

For these kind of stage use HelmT instead of Mast to burst faster. Uncharge shot with RH as well.

[swift mango]

To be fair Siren could help focus fire on the volleyball outside of burst.

[swift mango]

You could also use SBS instead of Rapipi in those stages.

I remember clearing some volleyball stages with SBS

[worn ridge]

3 volleyballs with 2 tanky and high dmg units at the beginning