#pvp-arena
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lmao


you got time to chat shit here go get stuck in campaign 
then crate to next major jump like Echo said
Probably leave it on auto and can still clear some stages
@ripe aurora are u outpost 397, just wanna make sure I didn’t miss any stages



Changed my defense. I'm good? 


Where noise
Anyway

Should I use her over Moran? I'm already 2RL
Noise doesnt boost speed, she balances Noah's taunt


@shell hazel i did the thing
I would replace helm with snow white
now i can compete in CA
Which nikkes I use in squad?
Can u help me to build at least 3 best squad for pvp
@umbral crown


barely lol

no gems Rosy 🙁
was the 100 pull or so, had to do 141 tribe tower floors and like 20 EX stages
I did 120 pulls
i started at 449 and ended up at 590
whats your current defense? did anyone cook for you before?
just 600 gems left in case some fights in sp
where did emilia go

Anyone figured out a decent setup for the new SW in SP Arena?
Alright thanks, replaced Moran by Noise and maybe I should use Rumani instead of Drake then.
Would the Nayuta team work with Helm instead of SWha? It's the first time I use Nayuta in arena
Thoughts on what to use to beat this comp 
I would run this tbh for nayuta
If you have t.lap at least
Youre basically making nayuta your biggest threat
Hi rail
Sadly I don't have her treasure built but I probably can and should. My Nayuta is 45% atk 90% ele for raids so it should work nicely
Is Centi better than Trina because of her burst or it's just whatever battery?
T1 kill snowhite with rosanna to eliminate their main threat, run a DPS team to deal with noise and noah stalling
T2 skip
T3 usual scar-trina-siren b.s., just bay, noah or indom it
e.g.
T1
- noah biscuit helmt vestiTU ros (this one allows you to dmg already SWHA, easier for uninvested ross)
- noah biscuit helmt ros laplaceT (this one won't hit p3, ros needs to be invested)
...
T3
- noise jackal SWHA bay xmaiden
- noise jackal SWHA bay emilia
...
Any battery, if you have trina left over you can use her in place of t.lap
That is a fat nayuta btw
Thank you for cooking, though I dont have a built Ross. yeah t3 isnt bad, mainly T1 and T2, T1 especially since I still am not informed on SW that well
think of SW as a vestiTU, albeit on the weaker side for DPS phase
I do like raiding, my Snow White, Liberalio and Helm OLs are pretty funny too
Thanks for the help 
Np
Does SWHA get rid of rosanna concealment
So basically just a delayed nuke
As long as she isnt linked id assume so
also at synchro 500+ you can't afford not having rosanna built, you're punished for that by a lot of things
with pierce?
I was hoping to avoid that
. I mean for some reason I wasnt attacked in SP arena for maybe a few weeks
and just fighting the same person and set up when I was attacked. so its been maybe 3 months since a different person attacked me
398 and 2/5
Use that https://nikkeoutpost.netlify.app/ and change it to English
I managed to beat them. but funny enough I just quickly put a T1 together and was trying to kill the T2 and T3 before reset and somehow T1 pulled through 
@tropic summit welcome back
Thank you for helping get ideas flowing and cooking, I hope you had a good New Year 
Quantum vs adjutant, which one is better to get level 15 first?
Welp time to go looking for the missing ones

to get a better idea you can Start sending your nikkes,at nikke tab on lobby, in-game settings > nearby > horizonal if on mobile and sort by power only.
this way is better to suggest you teams
@tropic summit 

dumb question, should i get trina or vestiTU?
Vesti
how should i change my spa teams, this is my current setup and what nikkes im missing
seeing swha also meta for pvp, now dont who to invest in
edit: missing nikke pic, SW, VestiTU and Trina (Power too)
I’m looking to take Challenger 3 this is their defense I have SWHA as well
Defense is obv different than my attacking teams lol this is just what I used to take Challenger 4 won R1 and R2
@tropic summit @umbral belfry
I made it to CA with Railtracer's guidance
I'm just going to use my normal defense teams, but I need 2 more to supplement.
Here's what I'm working with.
I just got Vesti from the 2026 pick box so she's a little under invested rn, but she's 7/10/9 with SR5 doll and one OL gear
Tempering 
For real??
Yes
Can never have enough dmg reduction cubes to go around
any counter for this team?cant beat it in rookie lmao
Saw a video for super fast 1.5RL swha team
New Snow White should hit after Noah and biscuit invul falls, if u can survive vesti
Hey! Anyone able to help me build a team for SPA and Rookie please 🙂 Thank you in advance
What’s the team?
since its rookie I tried
SW, blanc, biscuit,thelm, siren/jackel and it works. idk why but it works lmao
its either sw or thelm bursting cuz of the stun
Blanc gives sW indom
Jackel should give jumping Jackel to sw
any hope in here?
Did it look abit like this
with siren, my thelm bursted and sw died.(i think blanc got stun so biscuit bursted)
with jackel sw bursted and helm died
yeah both worked but might had gotten lucky. I stopped paying attention to pvp since like 6month+ ago but now theres vesti and none of my og teams can beat it anymore
Just make sure SW stays top 2 highest atk , otherwise jackals buff will goto someone and she will die
oh true i need to check that, it only has 2 attack lines
actually should be fine since my blanc and biscuit shouldnt have good attack
Yeah it works with that comp if it didn’t sw properly would have died before burst
She needs to be in slot 1 to take enough damage to be lowest hp so Blanc indoms her
if I dont have vesti invested, are these teams decent?
could also use noir instead of sbs but its not very invested compare to sbs for cp
but everyone is around my sync lvl so it shouldnt make that big of a difference
I’m small brain at pvp
but id put Jackel with Snow White and Blanc in t1, you can use red hood in mid if you have her (just make sure sw is 1~2 highest fAtk)
p2 looks fine, Noah can get stunned tho
scarlet, blanc, rh , flex rl, Jackel is probably stronger tho
cant get 2RL with that team
If p2 runs into a shotgun heavy def , noise will probably be slaughtered, so don’t atk one of those with p2
my attack teams in the past, team 2 against a shotgun and team 3 against anyone easy
yeah I might put jackel in snow white and rumani in t3
jackal + noah + swha lib and something else
might be helm
I’ll be switching in swha to my teams soon once I lose 
mine isn't strong enough 
maybe once i finish her 11/12 lines
Burst gen is 
luckily ive been top 3 and the only person whos been attacking me keeps failing
havent invested in pvp since
but lower cp than noah 
or all my other pvp support units
I Havnt changed my spa teams in weeks still
Noah/Vesti
scar/jackel
moran/helm 
mine is cindy team scar team and lib team
Moran is too cute to ever replace
im working on her before using along with vesti
so like moran scar team and vesti team
hoping ic an get her doll to sr15 and her skills at 101010 before usingthough
ive never invested in moran before 
She’s a PvP only unit so
only investing so i can use jackal with vesti tbh 
10/10/10 Moran is a lot of resources for a non duel unit ,
unless u live and breathe arena
im gonna get quantum to lvl 13, tempering/charge speed to lvl 11 over the next few months and probs stop the cubes there
probs, ill reset some units when it comes out and funnel it
most of my pvp units are 101010 anyways

Where'd you think I should stick t.laplace for CA?
Maybe scarlet team
Need help with this
Woa wtf, why so many peeps trying to steal my Gmail this week. They didn't use my password but somehow requested to change my recovery email. 
How could they log in without using a password

Couldn't, both Centi and Anis are what's pushing rl on that team and single b1 is soda.
Scar Trina Soda Anis Centi
Put her into
Jackal - Besti - Laplace - Blanc - Ada team.
Moved Pepper to Noise Noah Lib Helm Pepper which pushed it to 2rl
Cookies
You got a cookie stealer somewhere mate
Or you lost your old device somewhere
Then it's time to nuke windows
The last time I lost a phone was over 15 years ago. 
Only your Gmail was logged into too, right?
You sure your other accounts you have sessions in your browser with are safe?
Yeah, log in without using password. The Google app said so. 
From all the way in some country.idk
I still don't get how tf I'm losing to these.
Nayuta 
Go band for band? Should I remove Drake?
Nice 3 2 rl teams?
I need laplace for my spa so I can make 3 2 rl
I used TikTok shop first time recently, could it be? 
I think Vesti is 2.5 on paper without fiddling with cs and stuff
Also, created an account on Manhuarmmtl website. That's the only 2 unusual account I created this month.
It might.
Usually info stealers grab everything they can.
Meaning every site you have logged in to could be compromised
Sickening...
So a MTL site or TikTok are stealing personal info now. 
Did u check ur device/pc for malware? My friend used some site recently and he got malware and didn’t even know so he kept getting discord hacked
Assuming you got info stealer.
There's could be api f**kery too, but that's usually displayed via Google security page
I only use my phone recently
What changes are needed to beat this guy? @swift mango
iOS probably safe idk about android
I'm thinking I should switch soda with red hood.
Soda isn't built yet and I am not sure if she can survive to burst even in p3
So I need to check my phone for malware? Idk if I could. 
Even mine is dying at sr5 full ol 
P2 or p3?
Search up how to check, apparently both can get it but less likely on iOS cuz better security
P2/p3/p4 all dead to scarlet
You didn't win?
If it’s not built it can work in 4 but also have to pray no running into scar
Am I correct in assuming that Scar is the most statistically likely team 3?
Lots t3 scars
Could scarjack their scarlet team. And use the helm team on Vesti I guess... Maybe burst with Libby instead of HelmT.
Maybe I was half asleep and hit allow on some pop up sometime. 
No idea I gave up trying to predict where teams will go since I’ve faced scar in all rounds
Round 4 least likely maybe
My friend kept changing his password and he was like no way they will figure it out, but it don’t matter when ur device is infected
He was on pc tho
Could thoroughly check in your security settings for sus devices and thirdparty apps again
rosana the team 2
I run into vesti for 3 a lot
i'm assuming u win t3 already?
No idea either.
Turn slow Cindy into faster Cindy? 

My snow white is probably not CA worthy yet.
RDoll 0, 7-7-7 0 OL
She'll be ready by next CA, probably
Use her for battery then
If I qualify
Second best battery
Haven’t tried yet and was wondering if it’s good to go
Anis gives some def increase idk how impactful but maybe save scar
I have 2 candidates actually.
Anis on scar and Ada on Besti team.
Both 0 invest
u can make vesti into 2 rl with her?
Wait how are u gonna do indom with vesti with uninvested laplace and ada 
Laplace is invested to the gills
Ohhh
Well not 100 but close, Laplace is 4ol 10cs (rancid rock luck) and 4 9 9
This is 2 rl if vesti has cs
@ripe aurora
100 ele and 33 atk tho
plese dont invest product 23, needs to die
Got cs on jackal?
10 ish
is running 3 2rl teams for defense overkill?
Is having 3 billion in the bank bad and overkill?
Worth trying then ur vesti strong don’t need ada
just because it's all 2RL doesn;t guarantee it's safe
that's why I'm asking for a second opinion
T1 and 2 are kind of easy to beat,
T3 rapu stun is nice but shouldnt be difficult to beat
what should I change then
u trying to make 1 rl or somethin?
yeah I do have a tvesti I can use
t2 can die to nuke that has defense, t1 can be killed by rosana or back spawn nayuta-mana-hood
just 2 rol rosana proc into hood and vesti for a dream
Btw, got rapunzel recently.
Now I need 7 RL dolls 
that depends on your attackers knowledge
on how to counter it
all seems breakable to me
I tried that comp with blanc but really risky
ur bait could die along side pos 2
Neverending list of units to build grows evermore longer
I have her too but unbuilt
so uh do I replace emilia for tvesti?
pos2 cant die, its biscuit noah
We need like x10 burst day at this point
how did u come to that conclusion? u run it till u it breaks then u change
And X2 drop rate should be the baseline
Fax 
wait is the emilia assumption that she has a maxed s1?
becuase then it's slightly behind 2rl
rn my emilia s1 is 7
I’m trying to figure out if I go all in on my vesti team and make my other team weaker or make two good teams but beatable
Isn't Besti + Emi is like killer combo on its own? Or they step on each other's toes?
Build absolute and go burstless Besti 
Too broke for that
good idea
Better yet we can go after aimyon
Or that sync 400 guy he prob almost sync 500 now 
Imagine if he ran into level cap because with all that core dust he forgot to pull? 
what if I swapped RH and Siren?
both teams still 2rl
They have like every character 
I hope they put me far away from our bracket whales again
Haha yeah
Really hope I ain't getting Cindoro
We should get the 2 free groups like some I've seen in last CA
I seen 1 bot I think
i donno, id ont have emilia i cant judge
Ur spa guy and mine were too free 

is this better now? emila as burst gen for a buffed rh
Emilia can die middle of her 3 sec casting burst
isn't red hood gonna be the b3 there too
yeah that's why I'm pivoting to rh burst
you can
the problem is a biscuit protected defender or indom
yeap
just changed comp if it's broken
no comp is unbreakable
you welcome, i didn't, probably had the worst christmas and new year in a while, as i was mostly in physical pain, but i'll live... 
ye looks beatable, deal with T1 and T2 if you don't have rosanna for T3
T1 is ok, T2 you won't stun noah and they'll catch your nuke as they're 2RL
Nowadays Rumani worth building for pvp or nah
Im sorry to hear that
. Hopefully things pick up from here 
@tropic summit dumb question, is forcing 2rl on all defense teams too much?
its about time you show us your real cook in CA
you making a lot of jokes lately 
So what should I do about that?
there's no such thing, i don't invest in CA units, cope is da way 
you should post your box so we know what you can run
it's not too much, it's quite doable, now even more so thanks to SWHA being downright broken
good, SW built is gonna be quite useful
you're on the left, assemble the teams then show the matchup so we can confirm CP
Ok
as last bit of info, confirm your vestiTU has at least 4%CS
She has more than 4% CS
only need to fix CP on T1, you need 365k
can you get bay doll to R15 or SR5?
alternatively finish doll on SWHA
try to mess with cubes
give all your max lvl cubes to those 5 nikke
as you're natural 2RL you don't need any quantums
T1 with all Level 7 cubes
fix CP and you're good to go, for now that team dies to deficit
you need 365k
How am I gonna fix CP tho?
affection, overload gear, dolls, skills, OL lines
Also I have Rosanna but she’s not too built
just fix the teams above
improve rumani or SWHA as they're both worth it
add 1 or 2 OLs for example
alternatively if bay doesn't have any overload, overload her chest and head piece
This is SWHA only OL gear
Yeah Bay has no OL and I can’t even level her gear up
well once you fix that you're good to go
until then just wait it out 
4K CP is very easy to obtain via just 1 extra OL or gear, you should be able to do that within days
What rolls does Rumani want?
CS%, rest can be pretty much w/e, although you can get her 1 or 2 ammo and some atk%
your objective is 4k CP so really just get her 3 random OLs on any piece that are not poor lvl and do not decrease the current ones
there are but with risks
you can try facetanking scarlet with HP stack team
move noise into T1 and rapunzel into T2, add trina as extra HP stack, pray your cindy tanks it
as in, are they even functioning defenses? yes I could have put in Anis in SWHA's spot but ofc that wouldn't be that much damage
they're quite functional
any 2RL with threat forces a lot of cards out of opponent
So top team is T1 and Bottom is T2
they're facing the teams on the right, that's your opponent
for defense do you need to be careful about hanging a b2 or b3 in the case that Siren is used to stun them before even the b2 timing on 2RL?
you gonna need to check CP again @noble python
yeah you're in range with both, you can run those
record the match it's gonna be interesting to see if you survive scarlet single buff
viper is a terrible option here
slows down your burst skill rotation
even if you swap her and centi's positions it leaves you vulnerable to siren
defense is all about making it as hard as possible for the opponent, laying traps or adding gimmicks
stuns, early aggro, sustain, taunts, AoE, indom
play around and combine any of the above as much as you can
obviously aim always for 2RL or 2.5RL (with nuke resistance)
if your team is 3RL, already consider it a loss
your defense is as good as your 2 worst teams, so don't overcomit either
as for your question of siren, having p1 B1 on 2RL ensures you're siren immune
noah can be used with moran on 2RL or with noise taunt priority, else with 11CS% team wide to burst on B2 before stun applies
I’m trying to send the video lol
did your T1 live afterall?
Yeah it did
sassuga noise + trina
You’d actually be able to watch if the dang video would send
the wonders of HP stacking
🍿
well i pretty much know what happens afterward it's fine, thank you 
Fair enough but yeah I won R1 and R2
wat of my b1 is rh? take a gamble?
or set a b2 before her to threaten a b2 chain into her lifesteal and taunt?
i don't understand what you mean, your p1 needs to be B1, if your p1 isn't B1, they can be siren stunned
Should I change the SG team and add SW to make a 2.5RL for CA? I don't know how much help she needs in pvp tbh, does she need Miranda there too?
yeah what if I have rh in p1
on defense you shouldn't place a flex stunned target, because opponent will use that to their advantage
RH can be kited and locked into attacking p1 taunter invulnerable
Also is there anything I should change about my defense?
you're not gonna defend succesfully against the guy you just beaten, if your def isn't broken by anyone else below you, you can keep it as is
problem is my team 2 is so slow to kill otherwise
emila burst is slow charge and so is swha
you generally don't use emi as main B3 on def teams, as for SWHA she's good on indom
Which team should I put Rossana on? I don't know whether to replace her with Siren or Soda
It was beaten by 1 guy who was originally Challenger 6 and is now Challenger 4
But that’s about it
siren adds important threat on slow cindy, rather sub soda if you really want to
once you've SWHA fully built you could change some stuff up
yeah emi is just burst gen
I have 1 2rl team with Siren and the scar jack trina with centi
the other one is 2rl Rumani Noah Cinderella Helm biscuit
hmm they're overall OK teams
Kk but I should focus on building Bay and Rosana too first tho right? Since I already have SWHA 2/4 OL while Bay and Rosana have 0/4 OL lol
so yeah now this manchor/rh/swha/emilia/lapalce is what I have left, swaping in blanc makes it too slow and swapping in rapunzel is no buffs plus still vulnerable to nuke
bay is way too situational to actually advise you to build her up, just keep her situationally for when you can afford dealing for cheap against scarlet
rosanna on the other hand yeah, go and build her up
Will do
7/10/10 SR5-SR15, 20-40atk%, 20-40%ele atk
aim for somethin between the above
crit rate is also an added bonus if you get it
RH as B3? you sure about that?
build yourself rather these 3
indom SWHA
noise/noah vestiTU
scar-siren
yeah, not sure how a swha would work
think of her as a vestiTU
she nukes then she does more DPS during indom phase
but with more burst gen?
ye more than vestiTU but less damage output
she's although water code, meaning enemy can just slap a rosanna to deny her entirely
but that's a common problem in this game, you can't really do much to prevent a rosanna
so uh like this?
that's siren vulnerable tho
And I should OL Rosanna’s head and arms first yes?
for attackers in general yes
oh swap blanc and rapu
that's SG weak then
put in a centi instead of laplace just tank slightly more?
Also don’t put Wind Weak units in P1, P2, P3 T Vesti will immediately roll them put them in P4 or P5 she can’t reach them their until she has burst Nayuta is the only exception
here's to give you a few ideas
T3 can sub noise for a biscuit then move rumani and noah around
alternatively, if you fear enemy vestiTU, put noah in p5 and noise and rumani in p1 and p2
T1 and T2 are very flexible, suit as you like
hows swole white's batter 
who can we compare with her in terms of speed
second only to helmT
SU had a little accident like they did with emilia and helm 
that happens when pvp is an afterthought
is there any way to sneak in a scarlet trina anywhere?
scarlet glass cannon is actually weak
unlike vestiTU, she has little pressure pre burst and her kit is limited to her nuke and s2
ie lib can do the same aoe with less risk?
it really only takes a bay and 2RL to deal with her
Yoo welcome back railtracer
lib is also nuke dependant and in fact probably worse than scarlet as it's not even instant, but ppl aren't as familiar with her so ur chances are still better
in that team although you've sustain, antinuke and DPS (emi), so it's not really just a nuke oriented team
people don’t run Mihara no mo?
if they wanna get libb'ed 

i think slow cindy although can still throw off some ppl, the issue is that it's became too famous
so ppl are familiar with how to deal against her
also does tvesti need 16% cs for that to work?
iirc 4%CS is enough to hit her threshold needed for the extra burst gen at 2RL
8%CS is definitely enough
mine has around 15.93% cs
max ammo is unforunately tuned to +7
what does siren do for that comp again?
time to copy 
struggling a bit with the last team due to low power, for context I've fighting at a near 15% deficit from someone 40 sync above me
can i get the comp
blood showed videos that bay can not tank libe

pins are a mess 
@tropic summit wow some one ask me for spa comps they are out of their minds
i'm like the worst person here with spa comps
gl hf, it prob wont work
or it could work
i wont know because i never run them
except the scar team that is
rip, does the same apply to cinderella?
#pvp-arena message just take rail's set
Tq
Hello, can anyone please help team for CA?
I also have a selector (maybe for VestiTU?) and can get SnowWhiteHA from shop.
I havent updated my defensive teams in forever any recommendations for SP Arena?
How do you counter Blanc Mihara Rumani Biscuit Cindy? Used to use Scarlet, but doesn't seem like it's working anymore

CS doesnt work on her 
Where you get her gen tho
i hope he didn't spend 100 rocks fishing for cs specifically
It's first roll lmao
From a normal atk + rocket lock on
The first shot + all the rockets
Thats about same burst gen as a shot from helmT
30-ish
whew HAHAHAHA
Are you sure CS isnt working tho
I havent tested myself, but consensus is that it doesnt work
Can try testing. Ur shots should still be at 1.2s fixed
Theres no way shiftup would lie in skill description right 
Bay skill desc 
I'm done testing, seems like she's still shot slower than normal rl
So her shot is permanently fixed at 1.2
It may not be fixed if Rosanna erase it. 
recommended teams for champion arena? (excluding shotgun)
also it seems, Nero team losing every time... she's well built and her team too and everything but always loses... did they nerf it somehow?
How is my setup for this CA?
I have treasure bay too but I don't think she can help with the teams?
I set up log in with my phone number. Not password.
But they log in without neither.
T1: Helm burst is better. Can run Helm Vesti RH
T2: Fine
T3: Replace RH with Soda
T4: Looks fine
T5: Indom SW better that indom Lib

Oo helm burst > vesti? Vesti doesn't need to burst to kill I guess
The idea behind Moran Noah Helm, is helm lifesteal, then stall until u get another burst rotation for Besti/Lib to nuke

Not sure if using Anis for 2rl for T1 is better for rh for the additional burst rotation?
Can swap out Anis. The team despite be seen as 2.5RL is closer to like 2.1-2.2RL and Noah’s shield can block 2RL nukes
What's more funny is that there is no record of any other device login, in the Google account page. But somehow they could request a recovery email change. 
From another country to boot. Maybe they could disguise as my own phone IP to log in. 
Try to look at third-party apps
They could login your acc through that
they can stole cookies
Like my banking app? 
Or maybe nikke.deck?
TikTok?
I mean this
Not your installed app
How to check this?
I have shopping apps and game apps.
Nikke, Arknights, even usume
Then webnovel, webtoon, Quora..
Maybe it's webnovel
Should I delete Nikke connection?
needs a def team i'll suck you off thx

Is new Snow White PvP viable?
She is new meta. Burst gen similar to HelmT and very strong dmg if she burst
what teams recommended for champion arena excluding shotgun team?
Bit of a silly question, but will dupes have a heavy chance of screwing me over in terms of Blanc indom? Vesti's ready to MLB, but I'm hesitant on doing that given I already had to stick Emilia with vigor cube here
There's a strong chance I'm bringing in a MLB SWHA to replace Emilia anyway which makes the point moot, but now I'm just curious about others' experience
yes in my case i have core 1 T.vesti and 2 star emi and my vesti has more max HP so you know what happens next
Thank you
U can use blabla to check. But likely HP cube should easily help u manage HP differences
Yeah, HP cube is 9.69% HP which translates to maybe 4 dupes difference?

hi guys, can you please let me know whether my teams synergise each other?
Hows my teams
Why is scarlet black dhadow on the last team that makes no sense
i was trying to get more burst generator and CP. who do you reckon i can swap sbs with?
Sbs has horrible burst gen
Use centi
aight thanks
what do you guys think for CA?
ill counter your team thanks
ill counter your team thanks
Dair in PVP whut whut
lol
what's the point of 3.5RL SG team? Is it just to run moran + bunny soda to try to wipe electric team w/ jackal?
if it gets a kill its 2.5
if it kills 2 its 2RL
also if one of mine die before burst the burstgen increases
Basically only struggles against biscuit or scarlet teams and scarlet teams can be 50/50
maybe move nayuta to a diff position so ur sg units can sacc easier?
Bang it with rosanna
also, why do folks put mihara:BC w/ the slow cindy comp?
There are 2 ways of winning
- Mihara chain with Rumani > Blanc burst.
- Biscuit let Rumani and Blanc alive until burst.
- While their being alive, Mihara spread her chain and die.
- Blanc burst amplify Mihara DoT dmg and let them die while Rumani being alive by Blanc burst.
- Rumani > Blanc > Cindy burst.
- It usually happen against Nero Moran Helm team. Helm burst kill Mihara, not Cindy. So rumani > blanc > cindy burst wipe them all.
you could either rosanna nuke it if your rosanna is strong enough to one shot or you can out stall it with moran noah bisuit helmT vestiTU
so for CA, something like this maybe? (don't have emilia / anne, no lvl7 quantum, no treasures except thelm)
Starting to have trouble beating anyone, is there any obvious upgrades to my team? I have venti at an ok level but idk if that helps
if your Rosanna is built enough and you are not in deficit you can do nayuta rosanna jackal helmT vestiTU/emilia/SWHA, put quantum on jackal and vesti/emilia. you want the team to be 2rl .
hmmm, rosanna might still one shot, there is no trina there, scar going to be losing health and helm is water with rosanna being electric
although scar s2 at deficit does suck
I mean no matter what I do im at a deficit
200k deficit with nayuta/rosanna
so.. 1/8th
whats your team cp and his team cp
1590000/1330000
Damn your close to not being in deficit by 1%
I'll be able to make it there shortly
flip this around you need 0.846 or higher to be out of deficit
it's 0.836 so close
I need to put my CA teams in 
I just found a super fast team that makes me want to build but it would consume all the rocks that exist
is it building Crow? 
nope
How is Snow crit in pvp doing lol
Look how fast that is if you build it
the standard noise vesti emilia lap noah thats pretty fast cant even get to b1 before the other team
If you had all that cs
I have no idea how to read that
also howd you get laplaces picture to look like that
blue line all the way at the bottom, the dot right before the red dot next to the stun line. The blue dot is my b3 going off and the red dot is the enemy b1 bursting
Nero Moran no longer run as often. As such Scar Trina RH teams also less common.
Moran Noah Helm
Scar Trina Soda
more common
mmm
Not bad. Replace Siren with Soda
funnily enough makes no diff on noah or jackal the CS here, it's strictly tied to Helm 2nd shot and vesti 1st shot landing
even if soda isn't built up at all?
this is basically my rookie comp atm except moran instead of jack
Problem is I dont have soda or bay built 
Yeah, its fine. Just 1/1/1 is fine
how unbult is bay? not treasured?
soda doesn't have high build reqs but does want some minimum doll level etc I think
yeah and skills low, shes overloaded though
Non-treasured Bay works fine. The only time u want treasure is in Nero Moran teams
soda has nothing on her, and I mean nothing. Shes naked
pervert

Just some stats:
Scar Siren Trina (Win rate: ~50%)
Scar Siren Trina Jacka (Win rate: ~60%)
Tldr: Scar without Jackal is pretty bad
SG + Rosanna win rate ~ 40-50%
Moran Noah Helm Lib/Vesti RH about ~60%, highest afaik
and also Indom Vesti ~60%+

I think among the common teams, SG has the lowest, lose against Jackal and Slow Biscuit, that’s 40% win rate gone
I did the siren replacement
not sure what to do if I do the moran noah helm lib/vesti rh team since that will make the other team not have the units on it
which I still dont understand why rh is on that team
drops the CP of that team by 10% O.o
imma go with survive burst and solo bursts as a backup?
CP is useless in CA 
they don't do scaling?
Is mostly as a backup B1/2 in case Moran/Noah dies while waiting for 2nd burst cycle
no scaling/deficit/penalty in CA
can probably just do this now
Should be great yeah 
idk what to do with the other team now :/
last question - better to put blanc on cindy/mihara team instead of crown (filler defender), and move nayu to Swalt, and anis to SG team? or just keep as is?
yeah blanc is better on slow cindy/mihara team
Does scar survive better with anis or centi on the team?
I prefer Blanc with Vesti/SW
Then yolo the slow Cindy/Mihara/Nayuta
Shouldnt matter afaik
yeah nayuta yolo can work too
i was right, look at me go
ty
with nayu on slow, couldn't she die from not being defender?
she cant die for 10 seconds
Dair can you tell me current PVE comp, Sussy and shrimple are susy and Shrimple
Like the current best?
ye
The one change I have seen going around that isn't the old one, is rrh/siren crown vestiTU SWHA helmT
I tried it too
it actually works
Last old one for me was siren/crown/rrh/helmT(orRH)/naga
m.Mast?
maid romantic mast
the gen is actually pretty much the same because siren
another mg with siren is just more burstgen
M.mast you want to burst with though at least every 3 bursts
Ah so you need to actually not be braindead and just alternate between RRH and RH
if you try hard it you basically do crown crown M.mast, crown M.mast crown with the M.mast bursts being with rrh and then just repeat the rotation.
You are giga buffing rrh with M.mast
it melts stuff
helmT is more auto friendly
mmm
Well thanks Dair
appreciated, will have to build mast up
As well as Nayuta
Yeah, if your deficit isn't bad then you can do siren nayuta rrh hood crown
I wouldn't run that at like 40% deficit though
Nono, doing Nayuta for PvP
ah
cuz I want to beat the guy whos been CP diffing me
Literally just copies my build and sits on me with 70k extra cp
tried running these 3 squads as someone recommended it for me and they feel a bit lackluster (im also just getting level diffed)
yep, thats the best thing to do 
where can i fit the new snow white in
the annoying thing is he wasn't part of my arena like... 10 months ago
I was numbah 1
and then they slapped me down for my hubris
well your noah lib are probably getting nuked by vesti, your vesti team is vulnerbale to rosanna and just splash killing vesti outright, and your slow cindy team dies to a lot of things
yeah that cindy team is pretty bad
no joke a sg team would be better
and then you could do jackal blanc vestiTU biscuit SWHA
what are your 3 squads looking like
Or use biscuit to protect your noah
i have a billion resources of everything since i didnt really care for pvp until like 2 months ago so i can invest in whoever
VestiTU, SWHA, Lib and Moran for skills ig
this but I still only run moran stall helm stall because I have to super invested
good ol scarlet rosanna still putting in work for me
Man I really have to invest in laplace
Anybody know off the top of their head what kinda CS a 2rl team needs to beat 2.5rl noah
oh also sorry late answer to this, its just on the site, unless you're saying you actually just dont have that icon on that site
nono
I figured it out, they clipped fav image
I guess it works to diff treasured/not
yep
it does help with burstgen stuff but that moran stall team is not casual friendly
it requires a lot
All 2RL team, excluding Cindy should win 2.5rl Noah, edited
I assume you meant 2.5rl Noah, but really? I thought 2.5 was safe from base 2rl
I have the table
Table me up
Mostly Scar and Vesti. Lib is a little slow and can get blocked by Noah, as well as Cindy

Could anyone help me with SW?
I'm stuck against mirror container
Hmm okay. Thanks yall
Mirror container pure dps check. this is a mix of dps and timing
I recorded it but it gets messy towards the end lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnnJv3Zi5oQ
We need 1.15m cp for 34h? 
Not blanc for Vesti?
At least it's not MW
yes basically minimum, a bit under maybe works with right build
no single clear below about 1.1M anyway
can SW with thelm heal survive tvesti indom? 
I wouldn’t call myself a casual
I could def invest
Is this squad good for PvP??
Ez

I would if I wasn't using jackal for scarlet
idk what to run besides this really 
No jackal for vesti is that bad?
vesti becomes more vulnerable in my opinion without jackal, she can just get splashed to death
doesn't help that SWHA is now in the game too
Honestly I might as well try, I need some new teams since opponents on my SP found a hole in my defense so I'm constantly losing 
what are you running thats losing 
For a while I was using this, my Nero/Moran 80% invested probably carried me but it doesn't work now (or maybe it does and it's the two other that doesn't)
is that siren linked?
Should be, she's pretty invested compared to trina/centi
its probably losing to mirror but with rosanna
also
Blanc can get siren stunned there
I also tried this comp from the pin but it was a lose first try.
Maybe my moran team is too slow and leaning more to 3RL than 2.5L
guys swha so op in pvp ???\
tbh moran team is weaker now with lib and vesti in the game
single buffed lib or vesti kills it
Yeah shes good, she has the second highest burstgen in the game
also does good damage without having to burst
omg bro
pvp and pve she is so op
Yeah so I'm not sure what to do
It's going to be a pain to play the cat and mouse alternating two places again
I'm at that point too where idk what to change
Hmm, only managed to OL and bluedoll 1 Heavy Snow with what i had(9skills), i think she'll have to wait for next round on league.
so this current snow white is worth max OL if I burn goldens?
yes
is it possible to do 3 good 2RL teams then?
?
tripple 2RL is possible yes, if it works then great, but it doesn't always work
I'm running 3 2RL or faster in mine since SWHA release. It hasn't been cracked yet but I'm sure it will be eventually. The people in my bracket are pretty good.
You could attempt to run this
rapu or quency need enough cs for the burstgen increase, same with helm
also vesti needs 8% for her increase
I have her at 7.79%, does it round up to 8% or do I need the cube?
that rounds up
how much? rapunzel is at 10%, THelm has 13%, quency none 
yeah if they dont know what they are doing those can be annoying
the cs increase break points
you just need 15 for the minimum on RL and 11 for SR
so your stall team is actually 3RL
that could be a problem
so I was right about leaning more to 3RL 😭
Rapunzel has many decent stats for cp padding so I can't really change her but I can try on Quency
👍
Can someone help me beating this SP defense?
@swift mango finally i have besti at home
Stacked vesti 
hi yall, just pulled Noah and im aware of her use in PvP
the above are my current SP Defence teams, with BayT and HelmT
about to get DrakeT and working on LapT too
question is, where does Noah go?
no issues with investment i think since whoever Noah is going to replace likely has minimal investment
What beats this?
T2: Noise Rumani Cindy THelm Noah
T3: Jackal Vesti SW Blanc Centi
T1: Blanc SW Mihara Biscuit Pepper
T2: Noise Rumani Vesti THelm Noah
T3: Scar Siren Trina Centi Jackal
Hopefully they work 
There is no good way to respond that won't end up making it sound like some inuendo, so I will leave it at that 
well ofc you're running scar straight into noah 😄
the opposite wins on attack, noah at similar speed just beats scar
Cook me your ways!
t2 wins right? so we don't need to change it?
Yeah it wins
just copy their t3 but vesti instead of cindy

noise prob better here than rumani as well if you want to mix it up
Can't do that as some nikke are being shared
So can she do damage or is she just another helm battery
who? your t2 is siren etc, I don't see anyone being shared there
I kinda accepted not being able to get Noah or scarlet. Don't feel like paying 55 bucks just for one copy 
that package is just plain exploitatin and scammaz
You know it
Maybe if you're a new player with 0 pilgrims it would be enticing
Wait I wonder if they have sdoro in the package, imagine 
Nah this is scammaz there's only two good ones
And I'm not talking pvp exclusive
If it was $20 or 25 I'd grab it for SW
eh you kinda overkill on that vs scar tbh
I said id do anything for scarlet so I can use my stellar blade skin, but I will not pay 55 if thats the anything

One day I'll replace my SG team and it'll be 5x 2RL 
try this against the vesti
this against the scar
this against the cindy
note quantums for noah and trina are needed rest is w/e
give moran tempura prob
No Rapunzel or Cindy
Its that time of the week, hope everyone is prepared, lets go!
flex in another low feed b1 or b2 that is RL or SR
maid anchor is OK here
avoid defenders though
cindy not on any of the teams I sent
isn't noah getting stunned
I know. Felt I had to mention
So should I use SW somewhere?
Who would you choose based on what I have?
Maybe take out Noir and use SW instead to have higher CP and faster burst just for the memes
I guess technically I can run 5x 2RL but standard SG team still much better
Idk
you'll need noise there instead of moran Sorter
Hime is right noah gets stunned
if your noah has taunt priority she may still get stunned
can you filter
b1 or b2
supporter or attacker
RL or SR weapons
saves me scanning 4 pages of nikkes
yeah just run anchor there
well well well, doing some last min revision to the CA team? I've been there and done that, it will just make one's more panic. Time to lock in the prayge to Nayuta ♥
This towards me? I am trynna get to #2 on the pvp
Well well well, i've thought of this but im not using this. Anyway, this up coming CA is gonna be CINEMA!
Oh u mean Special Arena?
can you record? I hope your noise can survive 😄
give her a tempura cube at least
ash watching this convo rn like 
She loves seafood
we have no backup b1 so if she dies before 2RL could be gg
if noah has less CS than noise noah is getting stunned as well
Burningum is smiling
o7
Hello, can anyone help me building 3 SP defense teams?
My current teams are a bit outdated but don't know where to start
Nikke Champion Arena Season 18 - 6 December 2025
Team 1 removed Blanc and Jackal
Team 1 added Rapunzel and Anis
Team 3 removed Nero and Mana
Team 3 added Noah and Red Hood
Team 4 removed Noise, Noah and Red Hood
Team 4 added Jackal, Maiden: Ice Rose and Blanc
P.S. overall feeling strong and solid, however, I will be facing Umbra at Top 16. I h...
Forgot to turn off the insta battle, but still only won T2
Well I was hoping since I leveled up a bit, but no worries. Better luck next time.
Thanks, but miss like 1 character in every comp
there is a replay option bottom left sir if you quick battle
Try to fit in with character that has the similar concept
@haughty mortar
howdy
I blew my 2 attempts already. I will try tomorrow. And that is what I meant. Forgot to turn it off.
yes if you accidentally quick battle
there is a replay button bottom left of the post battle screen so you can still watch it
if t2 won still then it's less commited than your previous t2 was, means just need to adjust to beat t1 or t3
i'm lost
without a recording of how it went though it's hard to tell what one would be easier to try
ash called a hit on you, forgive me
just a little love tap 
Be gentle

top guy appears to have quit but was top 8 last CA 
at least I have the snow white advantage this time 😄
hippo fighting sora's nikke acc 
You mean Emi at home? 
I made teams in 10 minutes today. Expecting to lose in qualifier. 
Why do I get bunched with team overkill?
is this your first ca?
3rd

or 4th? 🤔
This is my first CA!
.
.
.
.With SW.
I mean we will fight each other
blood
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.
.
me too 
maybe the game will change its mind 
Early final. both japanese name and 8 dots were last season Finalist, now they face off each other at Group 1 xDDinside
my teams, I didn't really know what I wanted to run and just went with 
I forgot to change my Bay to Tempering in Nero team. And SW also no max doll.

Not a chance. So I am already at 1 loss. Need to
for winning vs other 2.
This time round the bracket looks very weird, a lot of new faces, I feel that many have left Nikke, so they compressed the competitor or maybe im wrong.
not same 
was forced to not do the f2p thing bc then no noise link 
Dang you fighting Sora
yeah, who is sora?
It's from my early CA bracket
they seem to have quit
He always made it to top 8
last sign-in 26/12/2025

Just like me, no?
I didn't even have the time to fix cube. 
Even though I offline for 2 weeks, I still made it to top 32 lol
Only 10 minute between nikke deck and editting 
Guess i'll just do this 
you pretend to be quit
come home
Who should use what cube?
There is someone who made top 8 in my preliminary group, welp, see you guys next CA
No way in a million years I'm beating that
Old tested team is better than 10 minutes yolo teams without editting cubes. 
Especially we have new Meta now
I just open Nikke when I feel like it
SW:HA = new meta?
sw can be used for either burst gen/sub dps or main dps
Yeah
so more or less
just believe in luck 
A 2nd HelmT is huge. 
So are her guns 
My teams are pure ass 
how ass we talking 


If I show you, you are going to ask me to quit the game 

why are my strongest union raid team so weird
zanta gimme union raid teams onegaishimasu desu
also what did you run for CA with new SW?
My Union only goal is just clearing normal day 1 for those max rewards, hardmode is just whatever
OK now I have to see it
i think i did dis but i dont know
i don recall if i put cube on sw
i did not
Thats why I said, this CA is gonna be CI-NE-MA W


well it's nice to see zanta teams are a bit unique
my match with sora will be interesting even though they are dead/afk
if u let me rent u for my union for 3days
can anyone help?
I'm on left sora on right, some clash of new/old teams so will be fun to watch these replays!
I dunno who atk/def yet ofc.
lots of mirrors
Last CA i got beaten by a guy name teddy.
This time I meet him again and we run same old teams at same placement. So sad
@hollow lagoon I beat Behe so off to see snek 🐍
yeah I
there
I found ur union member @hollow lagoon
Hope you guys didn't eat yet, this is my nightmare fuel CA team roster 

i dont ship zoro and robin
thanks for the service
u covered
, shoudl only cover noir
prob win against me
@umbral belfry I think we need to give @versed mesa a time out, send him to bed hungry
I didn't build brid yet 🙁
to be fair nix did warn us
to the dungeon he goes 
well in that case dkw in water and liter in fire and and no brid
fire/water/wind?
I'll give em a shot thanks Zanta 

I'm ahead of booba whale btw in sync for the first time ever
once winning always win then
maybe although you can sync pretty quick if you pay shift up some cash
so the new snow white unit is like vesti?
look at dis 481 fat whale it was 1almost 120 sync gap now its 105
more liek rapi pve power and vesti pvp power rolled into one on top of libs not giving crap abotu ammo management and helm's burst gen
My main rival definitely dipped in the honey pot, went up 3 synchro levels yesterday, when we were leveling at almost the same 1 level every 3-4 days for the past months.
time to mlb i guess
SWHA is prob the metaest of meta
where will she struggle you say? i donno? she has missile spam so hit count raptures gets wittled down still
she also get pierce scaled
while not having bad damage liek most pierce unit
almost guaranteed theres gonna be a costume gacha skin at some point
cuz eh, the design is kinda whatever at the moment 
the only thing she hates are hit count raptures and jumpy raptures




