pvp-arena

[coarse lake]

she's very good

[misty finch]

All the way?

Might as well also built nero if I'm building moran right 🤔🤔🤔

[coarse lake]

max doll 7/7/10 is good point

nah you don't need nero really

up to you, her burst is most important

[misty finch]

I heard stall team was meta though

[coarse lake]

nero moran not so much, but sure that's an option

but requires nero s1 max and moran max, plus tempering

[misty finch]

So you'd build moran over either baytr, soda or rosanna

Who would you build after

[coarse lake]

bayt doesn't need building

soda doesn't need building

rosa sure if you got the resources

[misty finch]

But they'd still need some level of investment for CP

[misty finch]

Does the meta stall team require quiry?

[coarse lake]

moran is the only one out of those mentioned I would use for sp for sure

no

[misty finch]

Is it just not meta anymore then 🤔

[coarse lake]

yeah not really, just moran these days

how much cs is your vesti

also if you build rosa it would make teambuilding a lot easier, since no sg team or absolute, it's a bit difficult...

[misty finch]

Like 5 😔

Noah and helm are 15% though

Maybe 18%

[coarse lake]

how attached are you to your rumani nayuta

you ok with just running the standard slow cindy

[misty finch]

Yeah IDM

That team just looked cool

Ada worth building for PvP?

[coarse lake]

throw a bit into s1 wouldn't hurt

like 7 is fine if you can spare it, not required tho

[misty finch]

She has zero investment currently 😭

But IG I'd also use her for raid

IDK I'll just see what u cook up first

[coarse lake]

any plans to build rosa?

[misty finch]

Kinda iffy tbh but if she's that good I can

[coarse lake]

is draket or bsoda good invest

in terms of lines

[misty finch]

Yeah

Well high CP but maybe not in terms of atk%

lemme check

[tropic summit]

copy pasta this, you can place SHWA instead of anis or instead of lib and keep anis in scar team

[misty finch]

Yeah they mid 😔

[coarse lake]

this should be workable

if you build rosa (7/10/10) with max doll then you can transition that t5 into nayuta sg rosa, and put vesti elsewhere

[misty finch]

Guess I'm putting some invest into ada and bay

[coarse lake]

bay doesn't need anything

ada a bit into s1 is fine

[misty finch]

I need to OL0 at least

And might as well get baytr if I'm using her

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta centi SWHA RH drakeT
• jackal vestiTU laplaceT blanc rumani
• noise noah lib biscuit helmT

[coarse lake]

bay doesn't need treasure either

although it does help a lil' bit

but she does 90% of her job by existing

[misty finch]

Does CP defecit exist in CA

[coarse lake]

no

[misty finch]

Or is it just a number

[ivory violet]

I always have trouble remembering what bay treasure even does

[coarse lake]

only thing notable is healing team on auto hits

[misty finch]

So I can no OL too?

[tropic summit]

ensures bayT gets some cover available on burst and adds minor sustain

[coarse lake]

sure if you want, although her hp does matter in stall fights

[ivory violet]

Even though I read and reread her kit when it was first datamined

[misty finch]

Also how does this slow cindy work

[coarse lake]

personally I would swap centi and lapt, but then the moran team needs 4 quantum

and idk if you got the invest in there to matter

[misty finch]

Can't I put quantum on the scarlet team instead?

[coarse lake]

if you use lapt there sure

but lapt isn't doing too much

[misty finch]

Centi doesn't do much either right 🤔

[tiny scroll]

Anyone feel like taking a look at these and giving some feedback? I have a strong TVesti as well but not sure where I can plug her.

[misty finch]

What would laplace do in the other team

[coarse lake]

comp basically relies on high invest moran burst + lapt to win most fights

it has never lost a 2rl scar nuke matchup

regardless of who gets stunned, they'll need to crit lapt

[misty finch]

Is laplace naturally tanky or smth?

[coarse lake]

moran bursts in time to give the dr

so lapt lives non-crit trina-buffed scar

bay doesn't even need to be fast enough to activate, she just needs to cast

but idk if you got the invest for that

prob worth a try anyway, max out moran burst if you can

[misty finch]

Yeah probably not I don't think my laplace skills are that invested

[covert lintel]

T4 wrong position
Should be rumani blanc cindy biscuit mihara

[misty finch]

Yeah I can 5/5/10 or 7/7/10 moran

[tropic summit]

for vestiTU:

T1 can replace lib for better early dmg and DPS and forsake 2nd rotation nuke
T2-T3 replace emi with vestiTU, emi can replace anis in scar team

teams look solid as is, but you wanna use vestiTU for sure

[coarse lake]

my lapt there is 4/7/7

main thing tho is you want 4 quantums on there

can go less if you absolutely have to, but 4 maximizes your speed

[misty finch]

Yeah can do

I still don't get how slow cindy works ngl

[coarse lake]

just tank stuff while mihara dot kills them

[tiny scroll]

Thank you, appreciate the feedback.

[misty finch]

And I don't have enough XP to OL bay or ada 😔

[coarse lake]

more or less, it's also heavily invest dependent, but I don't think you can afford to not run it, too cheap

[tiny scroll]

Thank you. Will see what works with your suggestions 🙂

[coarse lake]

they don't need ol much

[covert lintel]

I used that T4 previous CA and they lost
It's better with noah than bay

[misty finch]

Oh ok huh

[coarse lake]

ofc, but noah better elsewhere

[misty finch]

u mean bay and ada?

[coarse lake]

yes

[covert lintel]

And lap+ to rh for the second burst if they meet another stall

[coarse lake]

can't afford to use noah there, bro doesn't have trio, no home for sw/vesti

[misty finch]

Does 5/7/5 lapace work 🥺

[coarse lake]

gotta think cheap

probably ok ig

[junior mesa]

what rolls should i have for tactical vesti?

[misty finch]

Yeah I don't have the XP to build other units 😔

[tropic summit]

2-4 atk
2 ele
2 ammo
2-4 cs%

[coarse lake]

s1 is max value at lvl 4 already, or even less, I don't remember

minmax lapt is just 4/10/10

[misty finch]

And should I stop bringing units to OL2 for CP padding idk if it's better to vert or horz the XP

[coarse lake]

lvling ol gears for cp padding is not efficient

lvl gears for dps

[misty finch]

So only do it on the top of the line meta and leave everyone else at OL0 or OL1?

[coarse lake]

yeah

unless you got exp and creds to spare

[misty finch]

0 or 1 do u think

I used to have XP now I don't 😭

[coarse lake]

the only steps I go for 0, 3, and 5

but that's just me

[misty finch]

1 is so cheap though

[coarse lake]

sure if you want

not really gonna matter much

[misty finch]

Fair enough

So 7/7/10 for moran or does 5/5/10 work

[coarse lake]

5510 prob ok for that comp specifically

[misty finch]

Ight

Oh I actually have absolute but they aren't built

The other two

[coarse lake]

sr5 with s2 lvl 7 on them is good enough to be used if you want

but it also depends on how built your vesti is

but trio only really useful in ca for the most part

so up to you

[misty finch]

Kinda eh

[misty finch]

Yeah might just not 😔

[coarse lake]

that's good enough to run with trio

[misty finch]

can't vesti go in the mihara DoT team

[coarse lake]

not really

well at least not enough of an improvement to justify using vesti there

[misty finch]

Ight

[mystic wind]

Team suggestion please🙏 @tropic summit

[misty finch]

Does bay and ada get used in SP def?

[coarse lake]

sometimes, but usually not

[misty finch]

😔

Guess I'll just treasure bay for the lobby then

Are moran skills meant for her to solo the rest of a team

[tropic summit]

you're on the left

T1: no particular conditions, check CP
T2: vestiTU linked, check CP
T3: skip

if you're not on deficit you can run those

[coarse lake]

yes

but also to give the rest of the team dr to solo

[misty finch]

DR?

[coarse lake]

which is more of the focus in that cook, giving lapt the dr to live

dmg reduction

[misty finch]

Oh ok

I still don't know how laplace is more tanky than the rest of the units there

[coarse lake]

libby takes splash and extra counters due to multi hit

helmt is weak to elec

so usually lapt lives

[misty finch]

multihit?

[coarse lake]

my libby has only bursted in that comp once (aside from vs slow cindy)

[misty finch]

U mean vs scarlet?

[coarse lake]

yeah

it's borderline a moran bay lapt comp, with libby and helmt for gen, but libby is to also guarantee win vs slow cindy

[misty finch]

What would a moran SP comp look like 🤔

U run her with scarlet?

[coarse lake]

prob the moran noah b3 b3 rh setup if you can

[misty finch]

Is that meant to be stall so RH bursts eventualyl

[coarse lake]

If facing a stall sure

[misty finch]

Wait doens't cindu pos here give extra burst gen

[coarse lake]

Yeah, but doesn't matter much

[misty finch]

So what's RH doing in the team 🤔

Is it for if moran somehow dies?

[misty finch]

Ru sure helm needs the quant cube here I thuoght she wasn't affected by it that much

[coarse lake]

Team needs every bit of gen to be as fast as possible

[tropic summit]

use the calculator and you'd find out, you're barely 2RL

[misty finch]

IG moran really needs dmg reduction cube

[leaden canyon]

that team just needs 4 quantum's, you could also just put it on moran but I would like tempering on her more

[misty finch]

Guess I'm upgrading tempering to 7 now

[leaden canyon]

also its assuming you have level 7 quantums

[misty finch]

Ye I do

I leveled quant cube back in the day but tempering only became good semi recently I think

Maybe I'm tripping

[leaden canyon]

Tempering has been good when it got released for pvp

Like ever since its release

[misty finch]

I'm tripping 😔

[leaden canyon]

Its probably just become more popular over time because of like vesti in the game doing so much damage

[onyx scaffold]

quantum was good until people learned how burst gen was calculated

[leaden canyon]

yep

Now its more about cs

[onyx scaffold]

"i put quantum here and it will magically help me burst faster"

[leaden canyon]

I wonder when we will get that last slot on cubes

cant believe cubes still just have an empty slot

[wild hemlock]

Is just Moran buff enough to survive vs trina/scarlet

[leaden canyon]

I think it would need a redhood buff also

if I remember right

[tropic summit]

single buff scarlet is generally non lethal against a B1 moran/noise active

[leaden canyon]

so yeah it would need hood also to kill through it

[tropic summit]

scarlet blanc + RH buffed or trina + RH buffed is generally still lethal

[wild hemlock]

Hmm ok gonna stick with RH then I think

[leaden canyon]

I wonder what teams are like now with SWHA

for CA I did noise vesti SWHA emilia noah

For SP I did noise noah biscuit vesti SWHA

[opal aspen]

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtMTY4OTA0NTk3Nzk1MTY5ODA2MDg%3D&openid=MjkwODAtMTY4OTA0NTk3Nzk1MTY5ODA2MDg%3D

any improvement i can make to the def team?

aside from putting them in synchro i forgot they were part of the pvp defense team when i took them out of synchro

[leaden canyon]

so building vestiTU and getting helm her treasure are good steps at improving your pvp

[opal aspen]

ive got helm's treasure now, but i guess icould invest a bit into vestiTU

[leaden canyon]

also vestiTU with SWHA is apparently performing good in campaign

SWHA is the new snow white

[opal aspen]

wish I had noah but I dont want to spend 55$ for it

[leaden canyon]

For that amount of money I'm surprised its not even all the pilgrims to select from

You could get bay treasure

depends how invested you want to be in pvp though

[opal aspen]

i could get it but id rather save it for units i like

[leaden canyon]

Could run this with what you have

[opal aspen]

ohh thanks, but whos this

[leaden canyon]

thats treasure drake

can also just be regular drake

[opal aspen]

oh wtf okay, yeah i have treasure drake

thanks thanks!

[covert lintel]

Oh nice
Someone put sw in rookie already

[opal aspen]

would the comp be the same for attacking teams too?

and are units like cindy no good?

[leaden canyon]

attacking teams really depends on what you are attacking but for the most part yeah you can use the teams I gave you for it.

[leaden canyon]

Cindy is ok in pvp, she can be countered pretty easily by noah, bay or a blanc team

[opal aspen]

same as scarlet?

[leaden canyon]

scarlet at least has better kill preasure because cindy nuke is actually delayed to hit while scarlet is instant, scarlet also has pre burst kill preasure with her skill 2 and her regular attacks

[covert lintel]

Nvm, can't test
My cp is too high
Even with 1 lv1 nikke It's still 200k diff

[leaden canyon]

what are you trying to test

[covert lintel]

I want to try this can win or not

[whole hull]

can anyone make me a team for my special arena?

[fervent beacon]

Hello

I just got trina, how do i improve my scarlet team

Note: Scarlet is linked with Jackal

[covert lintel]

This too
And many teams to cook

[fervent beacon]

I also have centi geared up if that matters

For reference, this is my team 1

[gaunt pulsar]

you either use trina or blanc in this one, trina+blanc doesn't really exist because you cannot burst with both, unless you use trina just as battery

[fervent beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1273933998762229845/1447180652037537883/Gz_nCIvbIAAtgoU_1.gif

[fervent beacon]

Any other replacements?

Hmm, i'll try to make my blablalink work

For some reason, when i share my blablalink, it just shares nikkepedia

[lunar pawn]

Bless your soul

[gaunt pulsar]

you have to set your nikkes as visible to all here

[fervent beacon]

how to find that

[gaunt pulsar]

just in your profile

or press shiftypad, it's first icon on the left

[fervent beacon]

here???

[gaunt pulsar]

press your name again

[fervent beacon]

i got mine set on visible to all

[gaunt pulsar]

well, now if you send anyone your nikkipedia it will be visible

[fervent beacon]

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtMTEzMTgwNTQ2NDYxNTA0NDkzODQ%3D

welp wrong one

[fervent beacon]

oh that looks like mine

finally it worked XD

[fervent beacon]

now with all that laid out, please do give an advice for how i can improve my scarlet team

[gaunt pulsar]

dont have time to look through all right now and cook teams
but personally using helm in there feels a little overcommitted you could use her in other teams with libe for example or as main b3 of her own
and t2 is slow enough that rapu doesn't really add anything in there, with no cs on noah/rapu you might as well replace her with siren, also your noise+noah isn't working because noise is on 10%cs, and noah - 0%, which means noah shoots after her and taunts enemy p1-p2 to herself = she can easily get stunned

[fervent beacon]

Shes just there till i get trina

[gritty mantle]

Please make me pvp teams

[fervent beacon]

Im planning to change it now since i just got trina

[tame vessel]

Hi

[fervent beacon]

The team with rapi was not a pvp build, im just using it as a placeholder as im focusing on just 2 for now

As for Noah and noise, who do i give more charge speed?

I only recently started working on my pvp team, mostly invested all my stuff on Kraken team

[gaunt pulsar]

noah should be 1 tier faster, so if your noise is 4.92%+4.92% with rounding that's 10%, but it is still the same as 8% cs tier, which means noah should be 11% cs, that's where she becomes faster, and noise will have taunt priority
it's not something you should fix immediately but for the future it's better to be done because it's just leaves her open to stun = her burst becomes useless

[fervent beacon]

Okay thank you!

[fervent beacon]

Should i keep defense if i roll it?

[gaunt pulsar]

it helps, but cannot tell you by how much, if it's in 3rd line maybe keep it, but if it's in line 1 or 2 - just reroll

[fervent beacon]

ok thank you!

[slow forge]

What are the 3 best teams I can make for pvp. I have every nikke in the game except for these 5

[peak jungle]

Thoughts?

[covert lintel]

Good

[wind kelp]

Oh right, i need to put together some teams. Eh, i'll think of something :p

[lunar pawn]

happy new year @twin osprey, are you sideline from my bracket? 98 rookie

[covert lintel]

Lap+ beam becomes super heal

[misty finch]

What does RH do in a moran noah flex flex RH team?

Or just in general how do you use moran outside of the stall team in SP

[tulip quest]

XFMTACNMKOPD my Code Join Nikke en Web event guys

if certain number of players do stuff can get like 5 free rolls

3 invites 900gems and even if u lazy just login can get 1 n free stuff

[covert lintel]

#pvp-arena message

You can get an answer from this

[heady peak]

sooooo I'm kinda wondering if new SW has legit and viable pvp playability

[misty finch]

Wasn't the RH person gonna win anyway?

[misty finch]

yes higher than clipRL burst gen

[tulip quest]

BROKEN

Even her burst gen HelmT level

[heady peak]

ya, i saw how much burst gen she was doing.... and I was like.. wait.... can she be used... but I wasn't sure how to use her. What teams I need to put her in

[tulip quest]

Blanc is good

[heady peak]

cause she is only burst gen right? she's not bursting to kill

[tulip quest]

Jackal SW BLANC FLEX FLEX BURST GEN

[tulip quest]

Possible damage

This guy btw outlevels me by 56 just for clarity

[heady peak]

here's my current set up roster... any fixes or who I would replace around to get snow white in there?

[tropic summit]

make any of these with the units you've most invested, prefer 2RL teams and teams that involve vestiTU and indom(blanc)

#pvp-arena message

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• jackal siren scarlet trina laplaceT
• nayuta centi lib SWHA RH
• noah bis cindy helmt rumani

Notes

• invest in your utilities (noah, biscuit, rumani, centi, jackal)
• build up vestiTU, she can replace either lib (early pressure 2RL) or scarlet (indom 2RL)
• build up noise

[heady peak]

@tropic summit i saw your list above about just copy paste these pvp teams for CA... got a problem though.... what if my viper is max treasure...

[tropic summit]

you can use her but you need a main B2 and she should never burst

[heady peak]

that would put nayuta in lead then

[tropic summit]

e.g. put noir in p1, nayuta p2, viper/drake/bsoda can follow based on invest, and ofc rosanna

[tropic summit]

p1 should be a saccable unit

[heady peak]

ooh noir in p1 ok

[tropic summit]

possibly your squishiest/weakest SG

[heady peak]

ya i realized after the fact that it's a rosanna team

[tropic summit]

viper in p1 is good because she's water code and arena is dominated by elec code, meaning chances are high she gets ele weak focused

[heady peak]

ya, that's why I stopped using her. i accidently maxed her treasure.... i used to have her in there... ; ;

[tulip quest]

Centi change to SW H.A if you don't intend to burst with her more burst gen + more damage

[heady peak]

ok, bet

@tulip quest so I want to be bursting with SW HA or still be using jellyfish

[tulip quest]

SW best with blanc, you should first test her with that comp bursting to be sure

still has like 2 days before C.A starts can test on rookie

[swift mango]

She is not like Cindy, her charge shot already enough to break cover. Then 5 small hit. Even if her 15 shots snapshot, can bay cover last to that point?
Not to mention she won't stop at just one charge shot, but 2-3.

[heady peak]

well that's my current build with her... so I would probably need to redo all my pvp teams I guess.. ya might as well test on rookie

[tulip quest]

Yeap test different stuff with her

[heady peak]

sounds good thanks

[tulip quest]

She's really good

[swift mango]

I have her max bond. She just need to OL and upgrade skill 1.

[heady peak]

problem I have with Rookie... no one is literally in my league.... so it's never going to be a decent test

[tulip quest]

[swift mango]

[tulip quest]

you can try 4 Nikke vs 5 to even the cp odds

some guys here test with 3 nikke vs 5

[tropic summit]

call them with the right naming

those are f2p

🐳 kind of f2p

[tulip quest]

zantarath then

[swift mango]

Well, rookie full of bricks so it's normal to use less nikke to even the CP.

[tropic summit]

sounds like what a 🐳 would say

[slow forge]

🫡

[umbral belfry]

happy new year

[upbeat dock]

are there any key considerations i need to take when building a blanc indom comp.. i figure P1/2/3 could be Jackal, SWHA, Blanc.. or alternatively, run Vesti/SWHA/Blanc/P4/Jackal and that way either Vesti or SWHA will take indom?

[umbral belfry]

• don't put a b3/blanc p1 on def teams, you're asking for a siren stun to ruin things (do jack p1)
• for 2 attackers (e.g sw or vesti) that are close in cores and/or hp, put the one you don't want the indom with vigor cube. (but vesti indom is great too, still good to make a habit of nonetheless)
• blanc in p1-p3 is dangerous if you fight a strong enough vesti that'll kill her before she can even indom someone. put her in p4

helm has the highest burst gen in the game and trina + jack are both clip RLs (also very fast)

[hybrid fox]

can.. I even win? idk haha

[upbeat dock]

thanks, good points

[umbral belfry]

t1 and t3 are winnable but t3 you're relying on mihara rng to land

assuming she does land on all then yes, winnable

[upbeat dock]

what does that yellow lightning bolt icon mean?

[umbral belfry]

charge speed

there's certain breakpoints to reach in order for that to count (look up and press the 'i' )

although vesti is a different case

[upbeat dock]

hm, so how does that work then since there are multiple breakpoints but its just a toggle

[hybrid fox]

team 2 won before
so that sounds good, thx

[umbral belfry]

in most cases (e.g jack here for example), to break through into 2.5rl territory you'd need 15 cs. that's when you would click the lightning bolt to signify it

[hybrid fox]

are there any other rookie team that takes this

[umbral belfry]

I'm surprised t2 won I assumed drake dying on counters = rosa goes off. but interesting

[umbral belfry]

2rl indom vesti or sw

indom sw seems easier though, indom vesti you need to make sure you have enough ammo + atk

[latent bobcat]

Any suggestions for champion arena?

[hybrid fox]

@umbral belfry actually t1 lose

oh I just notice this mf copies my def

[umbral belfry]

even with noah stunned?

might not have been able to cut through noise hp buff

soda (p2) is a better pick if your aim is to stun but she'll likely dip your cp even more

[glad meteor]

Scar is mid

[umbral belfry]

[placid bloom]

Scar already crept, now you win 1 team Vesti 1 team SW

[umbral belfry]

thanks su

[spare nimbus]

does this win?

[umbral belfry]

if vesti doesn't have the highest atk on that team to not eat helm nuke it's gg

[placid bloom]

Maybe Emilia can’t wipe

[spare nimbus]

i think it will kill laplace, but won't vesti and emi die anyway?

[umbral belfry]

baby emi

[placid bloom]

0 buffer

[spare nimbus]

from my vesti

[umbral belfry]

idk how geared your vesti is so I can't say

it's very risky if you do choose to fight though

[umbral belfry]

still risky, not the greatest attack

[spare nimbus]

oh well, imma give it a go

[umbral belfry]

gl

[spare nimbus]

wlw

[umbral belfry]

[spare nimbus]

Dude swiped just to lose again

[umbral belfry]

new year same bullying

[umbral belfry]

that's one baby vesti if I ever saw it (your opponent)

[spare nimbus]

lol I hope I got on this guys nerves

he's changed defense 3 times alr

not used to losing after sitting in p1 for 2 years straight lol

[noble hatch]

Your T1 will lose

[noble hatch]

You can start watching from here.

https://youtu.be/-IrwOjgI2N8

[torpid kelp]

just rolled sw:ha. wondering what i can improve upon. both my atk and def are the same teams

[hybrid fox]

yeah I lost

[noble hatch]

I've seen too many such battle, my team had encountered this lineup before. The cindy team can tank thru your scarlet and wipe the floor with you.

[hybrid fox]

it prob did

[noble hatch]

no need to rush and forcibly add sw into any team. So far rookie and special arena are stable because we had enough characters to build 1 or 3 good team. However, to answer your question, I would replace your Noir with SW:HA

So far, I would treat SW:HA as another TVesti with higher burst gen.

so potentially u could replace TVesti with SW:HA too

[torpid kelp]

thank you JJ

[noble hatch]

This up coming CA would be an interesting one

[torpid kelp]

this is my rookie arena team. nothing to change right?

or replace helm w sw:ha?

[hybrid fox]

any idea to win those then? the t3 is kinda unstable

[noble hatch]

Looks good

[torpid kelp]

i can keep the defense as that too right?

[spare nimbus]

he changed his defense again lol, would this work?

[quick lake]

I needa cook new CA teams

[noble hatch]

You can use my opponent's cindy team to beat my cindy team. I am looking for other match up.

https://youtu.be/hXxLxtT42jA?si=TS-nZ6E15fbRZnAW

[noble hatch]

Yes. However, actually there's counter to every team. It depends how your rookie arena competitor reacts and whether they can solve your team.

I know how to break your team thou.

[tropic summit]

copy pasta it from previous CA champions

[raven plover]

ok you cook I copy

[noble hatch]

Hahahahahahahaha

[umbral crown]

[quick lake]

How are u gonna cook SW teams

[raven plover]

idk either

[tropic summit]

lib that shiet, 2RL or 3RL lib, keep in mind your p1 will get stunned

[tropic summit]

slap SW on an indom or noah or bay team, else slap it on any team that needs 2RL 🍿

[quick lake]

Too many options

I thinking just omitting scarlet altogther

[crystal flicker]

2RL Stall?

whats her gen

[noble hatch]

your match should work but your cp deficit penalty is very steep at around a 15.5% deficit or higher.

[tropic summit]

nero moran 2RL

[haughty mortar]

Could I please get a CA cook?

[noble hatch]

Someone posted a rookie or special arena clip showing how he defeated sw:ha

[tropic summit]

a lot

[quick lake]

I thinking in terms of CA teams

[umbral crown]

Then you win this season

[noble hatch]

same concept

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/kanata-no-astra-astra-lost-in-space-aries-spring-lol-laughing-gif-8406049554701449697

[umbral crown]

Not gonna get SW in time

[tropic summit]

you kidding me

[umbral belfry]

into the kitchen you go

[umbral crown]

The only way would be wheeling but not feeling like it now

[noble hatch]

RIP, I know sw:ha has lesser burst gen than fav helm, but damn, thats a lot of burst gen. Thanks for the info, now I know what to do

[tropic summit]

weird T3 choice but ye lib worked as intended

[quick lake]

are u gonna cook

[umbral belfry]

I already cooked

[spare nimbus]

im confused on how noah got stunned

[tropic summit]

what the hell, 2026 just started and rosy already drunk

[umbral belfry]

and by cook I just mean I replaced someone else for sw solely for burst gen purposes

[spare nimbus]

Basically cindy wipes and rapi cleans up the rest

Had to rack my brian for that one

[noble hatch]

Thanks to that info I know what to do now too

[umbral belfry]

got no room for main dps sw so this is the next best thing

[glad meteor]

No gold mileage?

[noble hatch]

W same thought

[umbral crown]

Not enough

[tropic summit]

inb4 he C7 diesel

[umbral crown]

Have like 155

[glad meteor]

[noble hatch]

Look at what i said earlier @umbral belfry

[umbral crown]

Skipped both units

[glad meteor]

Time to do tribe tower lost sector

[tropic summit]

how are you so broke tho?

[glad meteor]

Ex stages

[tropic summit]

minigames to scrape the bottom

[cunning nacelle]

Hi all, what cube to use for SWHA for PVP if wanna put her in?

[umbral crown]

Did last night like 11 floors ans the pulls did not get me sw

[noble hatch]

W Rosy, I am doing New Year New Sword now at Normal 1-5

[umbral belfry]

I agree with that yeah. but sw and vesti are a bit different imo

[umbral crown]

Blame besto vesti and libe

[tropic summit]

resil/bastion, just give her stats, or tempura if you fear she gets early pressure

[tropic summit]

did you MLB them

[glad meteor]

I would remove all lib dupes for sw dupes

[umbral crown]

Ih, have many of those , even from hard chap 2

[glad meteor]

[noble hatch]

Thats the closest I can draw similarity with. At the core yes they are different, TVesti is 1 nuke, SW:HA has serveral medium aoe

[cunning nacelle]

ooh ok! Thanks Rail!

[tropic summit]

wow you guys actually go for MLB?

[umbral crown]

Besti C3 from lb1 and libe mlb

[umbral belfry]

can't do the f2p thing and c7 sw bc I can't have her linked

[tropic summit]

looks at my C0 or at best by mistake C1 new units

[raven plover]

[quick lake]

Im really think of not using scar at all

[umbral belfry]

p3 blanc in this economy

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

Its fine

[tropic summit]

bench the sword lass

[noble hatch]

I may get a lot of rebukes, but I am thinking SW:HA is better than TVesti

[tropic summit]

easy on the drugs my friend

[umbral belfry]

I wish I could say the same for the p1-p3 2rl blancs my besti ate up

[umbral belfry]

better burst gen for sure, but idk about anything else. def not preburst dmg

and it's hard to judge their burst bc they act differently

[tropic summit]

better abs

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

i'd ||touch ||those abs

[umbral crown]

Its because the enemy vestis are not well invested so my blanc lives to burst anytime

[noble hatch]

Lucky the word is touch, not the L word

[umbral belfry]

baby vestis

[umbral crown]

Indeed

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/lick-gif-2135061738640696850

[noble hatch]

Daaaameee dayooo~

[tropic summit]

it's cuz you're 🐳

C7 blanc SR15 40% def

[spare nimbus]

does hitting cindy negatively affect burst gen? idk why I'm 2.5 rl with this team

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

proccs work poor against decoy

[spare nimbus]

still tho...

[umbral belfry]

it's her decoy, so yes assuming the SRs were hitting her

if they weren't hitting her then

[spare nimbus]

snipers on atk hit p5 right?

i mean I don't see biscuit taking damage

[umbral belfry]

yessir

[spare nimbus]

must be hitting cindy

how does cindy work? I thought they'd skip her

[umbral belfry]

[spare nimbus]

like when cindy is p1

[umbral belfry]

not for SRs

[spare nimbus]

rip

[umbral crown]

[lunar pawn]

is this a good team to test SW with?

[umbral crown]

Just go for science

[slender geyser]

I am new in this server can u guide me best squad for arena

[umbral belfry]

I think? iirc sw doesn't care about noah bc she's so delayed

[umbral crown]

Delayed burst meta

[umbral crown]

For now start checking the pins and the guides there

[umbral belfry]

check pins

[slender geyser]

Thanks

[lunar pawn]

first test

[noble hatch]

Yup, I remember someone said that too. SW:HA burst will take effect after Noah's invul or something

[lunar pawn]

what if thelm bursts

[umbral belfry]

[quick lake]

Hmm Noise Noah SW aint that good ic

[noble hatch]

Maybe CP diff

[lunar pawn]

nope

[umbral belfry]

helm said 'there's only one meta water sr around here' and beat sw

[lunar pawn]

let me try with ada

[latent bobcat]

Thank you I was able to cook up something

[lunar pawn]

new test

[spare nimbus]

will noah get stunned by p2 siren? or will moran burst draw it away

[lunar pawn]

second test with ada, smoother though tankers almost get wiped

[swift mango]

5 rocks for this.

[hollow lagoon]

I done worse

[lunar pawn]

new test, worth trying? had to slap thelm in there due to cp diff lol

[swift mango]

It's a bummer nonetheless.

[hollow lagoon]

The free 5 rocks got me line 3 crit rate on my Cindy

truly lucky 2026 rocks

[spare nimbus]

which one would be better?

both are almost the same speed

[hollow lagoon]

U get more out of having 2 defenders on second team

[spare nimbus]

ok

[hollow lagoon]

U also get wipe resistance with bay

[swift mango]

That's good

[hollow lagoon]

Better than charge damage Lel

[swift mango]

I can't get even a single like 3

[hollow lagoon]

My sw could use a lot of fixing still

But honestly she’s not much worse rolled than my Cindy

And better than my sdoro

[lunar pawn]

test vs no indom tvesti... I almost didn't get to full burst lol

[swift mango]

Finally I lack yellow books

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-diesel-brick-gif-8904973372501827928

[hollow lagoon]

beginning of the end

[lunar pawn]

but tvesti got deleted as soon as noah shield went down

[hollow lagoon]

Oh it’s the rail

Happy new year

[quick lake]

i cant cook ca teams

[noble hatch]

U got 1 more day to cook

[hollow lagoon]

When in doubt play cursed teams

[spare nimbus]

i think imma try this out

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/great-pretender-anime-guns-laughing-happy-new-year-gif-19862862

[hollow lagoon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/946719897390563328/1452792702143037501/Alice_Laptop.gif

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/kekver-gif-12843051005216017811

[hollow lagoon]

Dead laptop but

[lunar pawn]

what else can I test

[tropic summit]

i can trade places with it if you need to save it

[hollow lagoon]

I’m a virgin remember

[tropic summit]

virgin by choice, you don't wanna get any hoe

[lunar pawn]

would nero moran thelm SW survive tvesti? no indom or noah

[tropic summit]

you're looking for the one

[hollow lagoon]

I need me a fish waifu

[lunar pawn]

mm problematic

[hollow lagoon]

Why stall

[lunar pawn]

testing

[hollow lagoon]

Sw gets no Dr from Nero

Only Dr from Moran

Ur vulnerable to aoe wipe of 2rl

[latent bobcat]

@noble hatch I have Rumani here but she isn't OL'ed. Is it okay to keep her there or should I sub her out?

[hollow lagoon]

Matter of speed

[keen vapor]

Rail

[tropic summit]

Echo

[hollow lagoon]

Chime

[haughty mortar]

Brother @tropic summit could you cook me CA?

[keen vapor]

Crown

[lunar pawn]

too much?

[tropic summit]

move blanc away from p3

[hollow lagoon]

HER HIGHNESS

[lunar pawn]

why

[hollow lagoon]

Ded Blanc

[keen vapor]

Ojou-sama

[quick lake]

Do u still have attempts, can help me test

[lunar pawn]

got 1

[latent bobcat]

I should leave it then?

[keen vapor]

Rail, I'm gonna mileage Heavy Snow

[tropic summit]

vesti and emilia reach up to p3 pre burst, she suffers against 2RL with early pressure

[tropic summit]

you've a job, you can afford to 🐳

[quick lake]

Nayuta RH SW THelm Noir
Against Opponent Noise Noah Cindy if possible

[lunar pawn]

yea I see why, there

[tropic summit]

that's better

[keen vapor]

I have less than a month-salary on my account

[tropic summit]

soon to be rich

[hollow lagoon]

Check ur speed?

[quick lake]

I just need shiftup to give me another passive buffer like Noir

[lunar pawn]

nobody like that

@broken lark you around? happy new year

[hollow lagoon]

I have a bit more than 7 month

[latent bobcat]

Oh deck build right? I forgot

[hollow lagoon]

NIKKE deck

[latent bobcat]

Yea yea

[broken lark]

yo what's up

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit

[quick lake]

Nayuta RH SW THelm Noir
Should technically be able to Nayuta B2 Nuke before opponent 2RL B1

Even Noise cant save them

[keen vapor]

Me poor

[hollow lagoon]

Me too

[lunar pawn]

there's this team to try

[hollow lagoon]

Pre burst damage ?

Is ur helm unlinked?

[quick lake]

This works!

[lunar pawn]

you want RH to b3?

[quick lake]

yep!

[lunar pawn]

and noir is a must or any clip sg, like drake?

[quick lake]

Noir ideally yeahh

[broken lark]

you wanted me to try this?

[lunar pawn]

oh you're here

testing SW teams atm

[tropic summit]

throw vestiTU and drakeT in synchro for starters

[lunar pawn]

you free to change once in rookie?

[broken lark]

my defense team?

[haughty mortar]

What difference does it make? Doesn't CA boost them all to 400?

[lunar pawn]

@quick lake what did he need to run

[lunar pawn]

yea, or if you got a built SW, I can adjust my defense, if you still have attempts and can record

[quick lake]

Noise Noah Cindy THelm Rumani
Any 2RL Noise Noah Cindy works 👍

[broken lark]

i did my hits already

[noble hatch]

If u OL'ed her hp then its all good.

[lunar pawn]

mm we can test after reset then ig, no prob, thanks anyway

[hollow lagoon]

How does this work tho? NIKKE deck speed says 2rl

[lunar pawn]

this?

[broken lark]

i changed my defense team

[quick lake]

yeah, but we actually burst at SG's 4th shot

[hollow lagoon]

[lunar pawn]

this then?

[quick lake]

yep! Actually can burst with SW thanks

Perfect ❤️

[hollow lagoon]

Why not Burt’s with noir for more aoe

[lunar pawn]

can? do I swap SW and RH?

[quick lake]

yep swap RH with SW, nuke with SW

[lunar pawn]

ah noir too

[hollow lagoon]

You are up are u not?

[quick lake]

Nayuta SW RH THelm Noir

[lunar pawn]

SW will be delayed

but let's try

[quick lake]

[hollow lagoon]

I can’t try anything anyways

[lunar pawn]

ty @broken lark you can switch back

[quick lake]

Thanks virtue

[tropic summit]

run these

[broken lark]

np

[tropic summit]

for what? i wasn't reading for a while

[lunar pawn]

@quick lake nayuta test

[hollow lagoon]

Railtracer stocks are up

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/stonks-up-stongs-meme-stocks-gif-15715298

[haughty mortar]

TY! Will hopefully be able to boost up SWHA doll to SR15 soon

[minor egret]

How to win that?

[tropic summit]

build your vestiTU already, i told you this long time ago

[hollow lagoon]

Anchor enough to save from wipe?

[lunar pawn]

oh I lied I actually have 1 more fight

somehow

[quick lake]

Very nice! Thank you! Indeed Nayuta did nuke before Noise even had a chance to burst

[haughty mortar]

But now with SW:HA she is hitting backburner status again..........

[tropic summit]

nope

it needs to be noise + anchor to be reliably surviving things

[hollow lagoon]

Why not bay then?

[tropic summit]

look at his box

[hollow lagoon]

Tell him to get bay

[tropic summit]

he didn't even build vestiTU yet even tho i told him probably more than a month ago

[hollow lagoon]

@haughty mortar bay

[hollow lagoon]

I built vesti tu late as well (by a week or so)

It’s not like I can get punished for it anyway

[tropic summit]

a week is a bit better than months

[tropic summit]

disgusting f2p

[hollow lagoon]

My vesti could use ele roll but I already OLed my eunhwa for PvP (should have done Bready)

I prob won’t make 1% dis raid

[swift mango]

My hoard

[hollow lagoon]

Man my CA bracket needs me to break the Chinese whale’s win streak

[heavy hearth]

Question about this, do you not want viper to re enter burst on the shotgun team?

[haughty mortar]

Bay what? I don't have her.

[hollow lagoon]

Then get

[haughty mortar]

Don't have Cindy or rapunzel

[haughty mortar]

Rng don't give

[tropic summit]

you've to fight poison with poison, you see attacker water codes, your rosanna should be your first thought

do you've rosanna built?

[tropic summit]

sub rapunzel for noise
cindy is core part of that team so you've to change it altogether

[haughty mortar]

How?

[tropic summit]

run oldschool 3RL indom

[pallid gate]

so i received news that new SW become the biggest burst charger?

[tropic summit]

2nd best charger

[pallid gate]

who still the best?

[tropic summit]

your mo- helmT

[swift mango]

gotta do 1x10 pulls fir new year, wish me luck!

[pallid gate]

[tropic summit]

no that's detrimental to speed, do not burst with re enter, ever, in arena (so far)

the one day they make a re enter actually worth losing on burst speed then we could talk, but that's not today

[pallid gate]

so in the end emilia burst charge speed might lose to SW eh

[swift mango]

The game decided to give me the Arena gift.

[tropic summit]

incorrect if CS% is involved

[pallid gate]

interesting, checking up how my emilia is

[swift mango]

Not that I have much non Arena units in my wishlist.

[tropic summit]

filthy pvp main 🐳

[heavy hearth]

Alright good to know, I’ve been running that same team in CA. I fix now. Welcome back by the way

[swift mango]

Nothing much else I could do.

[haughty mortar]

Why was ViperT placed as offburst?

[umbral crown]

no helm c7?

[tropic summit]

lmao you still really didn't get rapunzel

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

#pvp-arena message

[swift mango]

okay since my helm would be max core with the guarantee, should I just delete helm from wishlist?

[haughty mortar]

Thank you Rail sensei!

[umbral crown]

blood gonna whale the pilgrim selector to get rapu, trust

[tropic summit]

just add rapunzel twice in the wishlist

[umbral crown]

of course

[tropic summit]

he's not gonna spend a cent on this game

i trust his judgement and that he wouldn't fall into the trap

[umbral crown]

he will, trust the copium

[tropic summit]

no he won't, he's a levelheaded person

he can control his impulses

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

that's why he went broke rolling for a specific waifu

[swift mango]

I'm just broke.

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/elegg-nikke-beach-nikke-goddess-of-victory-shock-and-boom-gif-6224140340726731921

[haughty mortar]

Control THIS impulse

[cloud adder]

iw ant to start investing into pvp. what are the top 3 teams peopel use nowadays? i really want to spend all my investments

skipped on investing in one solo raid so far

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/konosuba-anime-slap-gif-7864657

[tropic summit]

vesti indom
scar soda/siren/rosa
moran noah variants

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

why you didn't put rapunzel twice

[umbral crown]

good

[swift mango]

I wish.

[tropic summit]

fixed it for you

[cloud adder]

vesti is safe to invest into right? im plannin gon 10/10/10 her

[tropic summit]

she just happens to be one of the most broken units released in arena

hard to go wrong when SU makes those silly accidents

[umbral crown]

si

[swift mango]

ty

[cloud adder]

for pvp, i should just focus on 3 lines instead of specific lines right?

[tropic summit]

it's dependant on the nikke

batteries can use CS%, carries generally want atk% and ele atk

some want ammo too

[cloud adder]

isn't getting higher cp more important

[tropic summit]

CP is important but the stats are also relevant to specific nikke

a scarlet with 0 atk% is gonna suck balls even if you've several black lines

[cloud adder]

10/10/10 safe for vesti?

[tropic summit]

7/10/10 is enough

[swift mango]

8 black line crit

I could take it over 4 atk.

[tropic summit]

and then you wake up

[cloud adder]

what's the most optimal vesti team

i saee 4 of them in pins

[keen vapor]

And I was going to ask you skill invest for Heavy Snow

[spare nimbus]

Whichever one has highest cp

[swift mango]

I would go 10710

Skill 1 is more important

[keen vapor]

Why

[swift mango]

dmg taken debuff and her dmg modifier are unique upgrade.
S2 only give atk

with you could get from OL

[tropic summit]

or you could take the 10/10/10 way

[keen vapor]

DMG taken is minimal

[swift mango]

yeah, she is 101010 but skill 1 first. Then 2+3

[keen vapor]

[cloud adder]

hmm is she gonna be a mainstay in arena teams too. kidn of want to invest into her
also i see some rosanna's too. is she good also (3 team arena not the 5 team ones)

[keen vapor]

Attack, elemental, and nothing else

[gritty mantle]

Thanks i am going to build Noah biscuit rumani centi and noise but when I build them whom should I replace it with ?

[tropic summit]

rosanna and rumani are both SP arena material

[tropic summit]

noah biscuit rumani are all already in the teams mentioned

noise can enable different variants of the teams, you'll need them once your def breaks

[gritty mantle]

Thanks btw which other units should I look for ?

[swift mango]

I would also argue that s2 is more valuable than 3.

[tropic summit]

#pvp-arena message

[gritty mantle]

Thanks

[swift mango]

I think s3 can be left at 7 if you lack books.
It only really gives out some smaller dmg.

But yeah, I have no books anyway.

[keen vapor]

Yeah, noticed is only attack damage

[cloud adder]

what purpose does rosanna serve

[keen vapor]

Snipe Heavy Snow

[cloud adder]

whose sthe last. it says clip RL so l ike snow maiden?

[keen vapor]

Yup

But synch Rumani pls

[ruby iris]

How could I improve these teams with SW?

[umbral crown]

yes

[keen vapor]

Mmmmm Mambo

[keen vapor]

Wait, you shouldn't put Rosanna first, that's shooting at your own foot

At least in targeting department

[ruby iris]

Oh so I don't have to burst with her? noted

[lunar pawn]

Worth testing here?

[ruby iris]

Imma put jackal first then

[keen vapor]

You don't put her first but you should keep her at the left of jackal

[keen vapor]

Not sure if Noir fast enough also, only Nayuta will stay alive

[lunar pawn]

Another test

[ruby iris]

Should I try and add SW and make a third 2RL team? (Possibly)

[cloud adder]

do we know if which equpiment part from lvl 0-lvl 5 gives the most cp increase

hmm how do i even guarantee indom on vesti

[quartz vortex]

who goes well with rumani?

[lunar pawn]

She's a battery, so doesn't matter much

[shell hazel]

is this rookie?

[cloud adder]

testing it out in rookie yeah

[quartz vortex]

her over rapunzel?

[shell hazel]

vesti needs less hp than xmaiden

to more likely get it 100% to vesti give xmaiden a vigor cube

[cloud adder]

but my maiden is to the other side so she gets the brunt of the hit

[shell hazel]

it's damage share on jackal link

likely xmaiden has less hp than vesti does

your jackal link is jackal + vesti + xmaiden right?

[cloud adder]

no my maiden's attack is too weak

[shell hazel]

jackal links two highest atk units beside herself

check who links in a mock battle with the same team

pause and inspect the buffs see who gets the jumpin jackal flash buff

[swift mango]

Clear behemoth at 515.

[shell hazel]

blanc is an unlikely link candidate as is rumani

i'm going for behe at 481 I think I can do it, if not then some levels later but I'll try

[swift mango]

My Blanc could link ofc. If my team only 1 attacker.

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/nikkeatbat-nikke-goddess-of-victory-nikke-nikke-tetra-line-nikke-bunny-gif-7140829650970111161

[cloud adder]

i can't even pause in the arena

[shell hazel]

in a mock battle, a non-arena battle

[cloud adder]

my blanc looks to be higher

[shell hazel]

it doesn't calculate overloads

just put the team into an AI mock battle with kraken or smth

[cloud adder]

oh like in interception

[shell hazel]

yes

[cloud adder]

yeah i'm cooked

[shell hazel]

use an attacker instead of xmaiden then

jackal is much more likely to link with 2 built attackers

[cloud adder]

maybe emilia

[shell hazel]

wait how are you such high sync but so few dolls maxed?

returnee?

[cloud adder]

no...

i usually stop at the lvl 1 purple

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/explain-cat-confused-gif-7427957627644190403

[swift mango]

he is @keen vapor ex extra

[hollow lagoon]

[keen vapor]

Extra?

[shell hazel]

exextra

[shell hazel]

this is self-bricking don't do this

[keen vapor]

I don't self brick

[still storm]

@quick lake need help with cahmpions arena

[quartz vortex]

is swha a burst or battery for pvp?

[shell hazel]

imo battery more than main burst

[quick lake]

i myself dk what to run

[keen vapor]

But Vesti 2

[quartz vortex]

if i had to choose between her and redhood who should burst?

[shell hazel]

charge takes too long unless you are fighting a specific comp

[quartz vortex]

i see

[shell hazel]

she seems to do good damage and such even if not bursting

[hollow lagoon]

Self harm is a life style choice

[quartz vortex]

this could work?

[shell hazel]

alice main b3 is definitely a choice

[quartz vortex]

shes my strongest unit so i have to fit her in somehow

[keen vapor]

Alice dying is definitely a choice, yes

[keen vapor]

It seems so

[quartz vortex]

so do i swap raumani with jackal?

[keen vapor]

Swapping Rumani? Yes, that can help

But in general

Is a bad team

[quartz vortex]

its my 3rd team so its kinda fillers

not sure what to put

[keen vapor]

What you have left

What you used jackal on previously

[quartz vortex]

thats 1 and 2

[keen vapor]

Let me guess, no biscuit or noise

[quartz vortex]

thats whats left

[quartz vortex]

i do but no gear

[keen vapor]

well, then best third team is auto team

Until you gear them up

[still storm]

@tropic summit need help with CA

[quartz vortex]

if i put them my cp will tank quite a bit and im already lower than msot

[hollow lagoon]

[keen vapor]

Wait a minute

Stellar Blade units? 227 synch after half a year?
I'm seeing bigger problems than PVP building

[hollow lagoon]

Finally someone stepping up to help rail with CA instead of the other way around?

[quartz vortex]

?

[keen vapor]

That's why auto team

Auto chooses highest power units

[quartz vortex]

whats the issue?

[keen vapor]

You have leveling problem

Do you push campaign until stuck?
Do you play daily?
Do you buy event attempts to farm core dust on hard mode week?

[signal hull]

Oi! What's the word on new Snow White? I just checked burst gen graph and... SECOND?! 33.6?!

[quartz vortex]

yeah i do, but prob slower on the campaign side

[keen vapor]

Yes

[signal hull]

Is she good as main B3, or still better to use T.Vesti and such?

[quartz vortex]

i started during stellar blade event

[keen vapor]

Chapter 22 ?

[quartz vortex]

32

[keen vapor]

That's not too slow

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/shes-a-monster-bea-smith-wentworth-shes-evil-she-is-a-bad-person-gif-22839087

[keen vapor]

So, where's your core dust cases

[quartz vortex]

what i usually do is not touch campaign for a while and do a massive push

[keen vapor]

I see

[quartz vortex]

in my inventory i was told to not use them

[shell hazel]

if you can still push without using them

[keen vapor]

@tropic summit forgive me for not using my core dust

[quartz vortex]

havent touched them since i started playing

[shell hazel]

crates improve with campaign progress and outpost level. if you're hard stuck use some to boost a bit to get unstuck imo

[shell hazel]

🧱

[keen vapor]

Oh my god :deadge:

[signal hull]

SW worth using as main B3 or we still going with Scar/T.Vesti/Cindy and SW is just for burst gen and off burst dps? Like, what is it, a screen wipe, delayed screen wipe?

[shell hazel]

yes very delayed

[arctic jewel]

Noah/Siren/Biscuit/HelmT/Besti

I used slow Cindy team to beat this, but is there a better way to win against this?

[signal hull]

So might be good vs Noah perhaps...

With same burst speed...

[hollow lagoon]

So how does one beat the pre b1 Nayuta aoe wipe set now

[arctic jewel]

Hmm? How does that team look like?

[signal hull]

Never run in any problematic Nayuta comps yet...

[quartz vortex]

how much want to use to improve? get to blue cp?

[arctic jewel]

I haven't faced any Nayutas yet...

[keen vapor]

Every 20 levels is like hard limit I'll say

[keen vapor]

201, 221, 241 and so on

[quartz vortex]

damm jumping 20 lvls?

[keen vapor]

What the hell it finally happened, we need a new calc

[arctic jewel]

SW is the new Snow White?

[quartz vortex]

thats huge

[hollow lagoon]

@quartz vortex sounds like your account is brick

[cunning crown]

always winning baby

[keen vapor]

You can try with 5 but every 20 is when the bigger boost happens

[hollow lagoon]

U should take it easy and chill and do what u can

[shell hazel]

are you stuck in both campaign normal and hard? like actually stuck?

[quartz vortex]

to be fair i could get it to 240 now

should i do it?

[hollow lagoon]

If he’s 200is sync he be stuck eventually

[keen vapor]

@quartz vortex

[shell hazel]

well you want your crates to go further where you can

[quartz vortex]

im not stuck

[shell hazel]

if not stuck then it's a case of getting stuck

[hollow lagoon]

U should do stages with your strongest team until u start to not be able to pass with 10+ tries then u can sync up

[keen vapor]

Not so brick, only case need to be open

But you know your strongest team, right @quartz vortex

[hollow lagoon]

He’s not stuck sounds like brick to me

[shell hazel]

on the other hand you may as well use crates a bit otherwise they're just decorative

[keen vapor]

Sounds like having a job like me

[hollow lagoon]

I have job too

[quartz vortex]

i juist havent really pushed much recently

[shell hazel]

me too

[arctic jewel]

You basically want to use crates when you feel like you can't progress for a long time (if you rely on accumulated resources)

[keen vapor]

You guys can push?!

[shell hazel]

241 261 281 etc are all major CP jump points

[keen vapor]

You guys beat 35-26 already!

[hollow lagoon]

Nope

[quartz vortex]

cuz campaign takes a big chuck of my time

[keen vapor]

I DON'T DO CORE MAX UNITS

[hollow lagoon]

If I switch sw with Qeq then only helm is max

[keen vapor]

I'm not maxing Helm Core

[quartz vortex]

i think that when im actually stuck i just comeback after a few weeks

[mystic rain]

@swift mango whats ur champs lineup this season with SWHA :3

im actually stumped idk where to put snow and vesti in my champs since both r competing for my blanc team

[hollow lagoon]

Healthy light spender that started bit after Stellar blade event I think?

[shell hazel]

that is when you should crate a bit, but you should get stuck in both campaign types not just 1

[keen vapor]

😭 title is beautiful

[quartz vortex]

yeah i do do both at the same time

[oak hatch]

What sync are they now?

[hollow lagoon]

And it will never happen again

[shell hazel]

so are you stuck or not? 😄

[hollow lagoon]

282

I tell hippo I’m stuck at 10% deficit

It makes my life easier

[shell hazel]

you're not stuck you just have skill issues with the final boss

[hollow lagoon]

[oak hatch]

Oh I somehow passed them or they not opening boxes, 287 rn

[hollow lagoon]

Idk how to live the wipe

That made my year

[quartz vortex]

now that im thinking, if i used my crates the gap wouldnt be so big

[shell hazel]

my gif is gone 🙁

[hollow lagoon]

New year new curse

[shell hazel]

it was just rapunzel from the actual game lmao

[keen vapor]

Uh huh

[oak hatch]

Don’t use them now just to close some gap, u can close it more if u push up further in campaign and then use