If SW has base gen like RH on all of her hit then she would gen about a Clip RL in 2rl, if.
#pvp-arena
swift mango
raven plover
yea without the debuff, if debuff adds gen.. truly 1 RL team 
covert lintel
That pierce buff is guaranteed for 5 secs
swift mango
yea without the debuff, if debuff adds gen.. truly 1 RL team <:xdd:1395964445976...
She hit in 1.2sec, can't be improved by CS. She only shot once in 2rl
raven plover
first shot before 2 RL right 
raven plover
That pierce buff is guaranteed for 5 secs<:pepehmmm:955702916294008923>
that affect s2? 
covert lintel
She hit in 1.2sec, can't be improved by CS. She only shot once in 2rl
Shot once and followed by 5 attack sequences 
swift mango
The 5 lock on shots in sequence so it won't be instantly. Probably need to get to 2rl to all landed.
raven plover
covert lintel
that affect s2? <:Pog:1280581001499775049>
It should be
swift mango
Shot once and followed by 5 attack sequences <:hmmz:955829922088235068>
the 48% that hit all too.
1+5+5
raven plover
It should be<:CrownOwO:1451374290057560336>
imagine the dmg taken is like jack
every 0.2
so 6x5
then her first shot
5 x 2 follow up
40 source of gen without pierce? 
covert lintel
Besti killer
swift mango
so 6x5
then her first shot
5 x 2 follow up
40 source of gen without pierce? <:xd...
Then her base gen would be like MG or Cindy.
raven plover
Then her base gen would be like MG or Cindy.<:hmmz:955829922088235068>
instead of 3.55 jack its 0.5 
covert lintel
Then her base gen would be like MG or Cindy.<:hmmz:955829922088235068>
It will be like lib's
Trust
swift mango
instead of 3.55 jack its 0.5 <a:kekwwa:1016228345823907880>
0.05
raven plover
covert lintel
So many good attackers, but the most important thing isn't updated
Like blanc, biscuit, noah
swift mango
Bay
umbral crown
besto shieldo
raven plover
So many good attackers, but the most important thing isn't updated
Like blanc, b...
we might find that out soon today
covert lintel
Bay<:CrownOwO:1451374290057560336>
Weak
raven plover
swift mango
Weak<:NoahCry:1336195796797886606>
Nero
covert lintel
Folkwang treasure
10000% agree
umbral crown
Folkwang treasure
swift mango
Make Folkwang+Ludmilla a duo,
umbral crown
Same
Need to babysit her with healing<:NoahCry:1336195796797886606>
give her rapunzel and bayT, so your helm can go somewhere else
placid bloom
pilgrim selector costs money 
so no Noah
umbral crown
pilgrim selector costs money <:clueless:1030024390190055445> so no Noah
its besto shieldo time
swift mango
Ludmilla treasure give her AoE attack calculated by her HP.+ATK. Also change her DR to at begin of burst phase 1.
Folkwang treasure give buff to defender as well and dr.
That would make real arena queen.
gritty ridge
Dolla treasure make her helm nuke at b2 timing
quick lake
do we know her gen alr
quick lake
the mines should have the data 
worn ridge
How can i beat this ? I used to beat him with this team but he just level up
umbral crown
Indom vesti
wild hemlock
when are servers back up
oak hatch
In 4 hours
wild hemlock
umbral crown
quick lake
swift mango
raven plover
wind kelp
looks at time it's 10:30 am. Guessi'm on cook duty.
unique wagon
SWHA will be meta
tulip quest
Jan 1 the Pick up
quick lake
SWHA will be meta
Just saw the burst gen. Insane 
tulip quest
Just saw the burst gen. Insane <:poggies:956366150311215265>
was I right? about that 0.2 sec lock-on mechanics
quick lake
Still dk bout the mechanics, Needs wait till release
shell hazel
Just saw the burst gen. Insane <:poggies:956366150311215265>
where?
shell hazel
wind kelp
Well,it took this long(since 22nd) for them to finally break my def teams 😄 Expected really, can't make anything impossible to break, but took a dang while.
spare nimbus
does this win?
scarlet adder
how much scar ammo is making her dodge siren stun? and if she dodges it p2 gets stunned?
raven plover
how much scar ammo is making her dodge siren stun? and if she dodges it p2 gets ...
20-32. no, siren stun bullet simply hit scar cover
tulip quest
EVERY Time I look at clock oh it's 4:33 pm = charge speed
3:16 = charge speed
every number that has like connection to charge speed rolls in my clock my brain auto translate to charge speed
I think im sick 😄
spiral onyx
SWHA will be meta
Snow White has been meta since launch 
https://youtu.be/GbB06aO2Qow?si=kKLhycJJWXZ88ZYT
misty finch
Finally some defends holy
misty finch
Does this win with deficit
glad meteor
Nayuta gets rosa’d prob
shell hazel
your entire team is supporters or defenders
misty finch
your entire team is supporters or defenders
Ye but Rosanna would remove the nayuta imdom right
shell hazel
scar probably also cut you down because you're not 2RL or close to it really with that comp
misty finch
Really jackal wouldn’t provide enough feed?
shell hazel
you'd be entirely reliant on nayuta carrying that to victory on her own in the time she has indom state even if ros didn't remove it
misty finch
They’re at 2.5 rl though right
misty finch
Rosanna procs when I die too?
shell hazel
yes
shell hazel
normally for scar you'd just catch it with bay or noah
misty finch
I’m using Noah here though 😔
shell hazel
bay not built?
misty finch
Nah
shell hazel
can work without build but you need to be in cp range which you woudn't be at that sync gap
misty finch
Yeah 😔
I don’t think trying to kill this with CP gap would work either just cuz vesti too OP
Otherwise siren stun p1 should work somewhat cleanly right
shell hazel
nah moran prob dodges it at 2RL which they might be
misty finch
I’m using Noah here though 😔
Can I kill this without Noah
shell hazel
your HelmT is likely an over-commit on that team as well
misty finch
Not quite thankfully
misty finch
your HelmT is likely an over-commit on that team as well
Huh I’d just use another clipRL there instead?
My helm and Noah do both have 15% CS so they can reach 2,5rl by themselves
misty finch
How are these meant to work 🤔
shell hazel
helm snipe the link/attackers on t1 if opponent is not quick enough
and noah catches scar for the other one
record/try
misty finch
Both teams would be in deficit
shell hazel
what does cp look like?
misty finch
Can switch a few cubes but it’s still bleak
shell hazel
left needs 819,757K so not miles off, presumably rapunzel is the weak link here?
right needs 821,921K so only need a little here, cube swaps might just swing it?
misty finch
Yeah rapunzel
shell hazel
we want a high cp supporter or attacker here that doesn't tank the cp
that is b1 or b2
misty finch
That has similar burst gen?
shell hazel
trina is an option, if not then something like m.anchor
yeah you want low feed so RL or SR ideally
can't be b3 because helmT needs to b3
we want both biscuit stacks to go to rumani hence no defenders ideally
misty finch
Highest CP I can get to 😔
shell hazel
damn a little too short still lmao
misty finch
Centi would be like 1-2k more but not enough still yeah 😔
shell hazel
what about nayuta here?
misty finch
Wait isn’t this enough
shell hazel
it is but you run the risk of centi getting the stacks
can try it - i'm curious on how both teams do
misty finch
Does centi not want the stacks?
shell hazel
you could try helmT at pos 2
no we want rumani to get both the biscuit procs, she only does it twice
try helmt pos 2 and centi pos 3
misty finch
Is this team meant to burst twice
keen vapor
Nah
shell hazel
no, just try it presuming you have nothing to lose here?
want to see how both teams do, you'll need more cp on the other one though still
misty finch
If helm is p2 can’t I use smth like drake treasure
shell hazel
high feed
misty finch
Oh yeah there’s a jackal 😭
shell hazel
we're going low feed if possible
what about cp on the other team? needs to be 821,921K
shell hazel
Not quite thankfully
you forgot that vesti charge speed def can get this to 2RL
misty finch
Yeah other team is fine
misty finch
you forgot that vesti charge speed def can get this to 2RL
How does that work 😭
misty finch
How much cs would she need for 2rl
misty finch
Maybe I should try and build CS on her over atk% 🤔
shell hazel
if cp looks fine can you record and try? I don't promise you'll win but I want to see if both/either team can
misty finch
Yeah sure
shell hazel
Maybe I should try and build CS on her over atk% 🤔
I didn't think it was worth it too niche a use case. I just gave her like 10-11% instead
quick lake
Vesti still wants atk more. Just do cs ammo and atk
gaunt pulsar
Maybe I should try and build CS on her over atk% 🤔
from my experience attacking vesti the one with proper attack and ele is more scary than the one with 18% cs
keen vapor
That's why you ask 
misty finch
Usually I just think of units like Wmaiden and Helm and burst genners and forget that they can actually burst too themselves 😭
Well not really forget but just don’t consider them
gaunt pulsar
i have dude with 18%cs vesti that 45 levels above me, he cannot kill jackal/lib/unlinked blanc in p1 p2 p3 before i get indom and another one just decimates me 
shell hazel
nice job, unclear how reliable the rumani helmt etc one would be
if lib gets to indom/burst you prob get cooked lol 😄
but it could well be like 100% reliable, would have to run it a few times
misty finch
nice job, unclear how reliable the rumani helmt etc one would be
Yeah did I out charge speed them or something?
Or maybe lib did burst but just died
shell hazel
Well not really forget but just don’t consider them
so the reason I put xmaiden as b3 against the scar/ros team is because she is a defender with good burst gen. She's not going to get nuked easily by ros
vesti was here to potentially eat the ros nuke if needed
that opponent team is glass cannon once you successfully b2 noah b3 xmaiden then it's as good as dead
for the other one we forced mis-indom to siren it looks like here, helmT nuke can snipe the link before they get going, it might work all the time against that opponent but there could be some rng in the result
misty finch
Ye and thankfully I have both helm burst and maiden bursts invested too
misty finch
vesti was here to potentially eat the ros nuke if needed
How does this work does ros nuke just fire randomly if there’s no attacker
shell hazel
nah it has rules it follows
but if there is an attacker one of her nukes will go there, so you can at least semi-control it
it doesn't matter if vesti dies because xmaiden is main b3 anyway
misty finch
So it’s still a bit rng?
shell hazel
I think that team should win all the time
ros won't be in time to stop you noah > xmaiden
misty finch
Yeah they’re just too slow it seems
misty finch
I think team 2 helm burst had to have outsped Blanc burst for siren to get the imdom
So it should always win
shell hazel
there are multiple ways to win these types of fights it just mostly depends on team comp and speed/cp
I prefer reliable over rng where possible
your main issue now is falling into deficit 😛
misty finch
Yeah I’m not expecting to stay here anyway
gaunt pulsar
I think team 2 helm burst had to have outsped Blanc burst for siren to get the i...
helm nuke is as fast as scar, just single target
misty finch
Yeah as if cycling defensive comps wasn’t hard enough 😭
shell hazel
it can be worth considering a bay build at some point, you can use her in place of Noah then sometimes for that comp and that frees you up a noah then
I'd not rush it now with snow white coming tbh
but when you get spare materials it's a consideration to make
misty finch
Yeah it’d be her, stall team, Rosanna or soda
shell hazel
she's a good anti-scarlet attacking option
I got mine to 7/7/7 with some basic OL
didn't build any specific stats, so low requirements for rocks at least
misty finch
Wait ur only synch 460 too 🤔
shell hazel
yep
misty finch
but when you get spare materials it's a consideration to make
I could do it now
shell hazel
depends what else you have to build tbh
you're barely on the cp range with noah so unless bay > more cp than noah you can't do a direct swap
I'd prio snow white first she's here tomorrow
you've got a good number of skill books so you could boost some skills where needed after that
misty finch
Ye I’d still be able to 777 at least 4 more units
shell hazel
depends if you're wanting to build raid stuff as well
misty finch
Yeah I haven’t been building as many raid units as I probably should 😔
shell hazel
do you have a blabla link? I could run a report
misty finch
I’m just waiting for new campaign chapters to use core dust boxes cuz I don’t think I can clear container at 461
shell hazel
you should use these as well
misty finch
Wait you’ve done this before already
shell hazel
haha
misty finch
But yeah I still have more resources to spend
And wasted 20 rocks on Blanc in the meantime for zero benefit 💀
shell hazel
your invests look OK to me in general
your scar is a bit low think you'd want her at 10/7/10 or 10/10/10 but your skill 1 isn't maxed
trina burst is low as well, think you want at least 7 on it
shell hazel
your Nayuta pve build looks pretty weak to me
spiral onyx
When SWHA drops
tiny scroll
She gonna be meta PVP?
shell hazel
that is the rumour but I'd build mine anyway for pve stuff
misty finch
You'll be burning through them all tomorrow
She’d just need 2k skill and 1k burst though
And I have ~60 selector boxes for gold mats too
misty finch
your Nayuta pve build looks pretty weak to me
I already spent a good amount of rocks on her when she came out huh 🤔
shell hazel
it's her overload phases quite low on some
misty finch
trina burst is low as well, think you want at least 7 on it
I end up bursting w/ someone else a lot of the time but maybe
shell hazel
torso in particular is just score of 5
shell hazel
I end up bursting w/ someone else a lot of the time but maybe
trina burst is mainly for scar comp
misty finch
Ye I end up using Blanc or nayuta burst a lot though
shell hazel
GS is measure of phase values
nayuta has 63 which is fairly low, as a meta type unit
max is 180 (12 black lines lol)
but I'd not burn rocks now, snow white tomorrow, come back to her rolls later
misty finch
Investing into scar comp feels a bit bad though
shell hazel
my advice is still just to build out snow white first and see what is left anyway
shell hazel
depends if you think she's leaving the pvp meta or not
if she has staying power then I'd just invest the skills appropriately, not like you'll suffer for it
I tend to look at the skill investments from a "how much does this unit get used" type thing
swift mango
You'll be burning through them all tomorrow
I got nothing to burn
swift mango
Investing into scar comp feels a bit bad though
then don't play arena
glad meteor
Scar doesn’t feel that op as she used to in arena
spiral onyx
I may not have enough rocks 
misty finch
then don't play arena<:hmmz:955829922088235068>
As in you’re spending like 300 skill books for 2% attack increase
shell hazel
Scar doesn’t feel that op as she used to in arena <:pepehmmm:955702916294008923>
she's not but I think she remains a useful unit
misty finch
When I’m short on gold books already as well
shell hazel
When I’m short on gold books already as well
you can wait on it just an eventual thing I guess
glad meteor
she's not but I think she remains a useful unit
For ca prob
shell hazel
your scar is under-invested a bit anyway not enough atk etc
but expensive on rocks
trina burst to 7 though doesn't need gold books you should do that if you ever run scar/trina
it will likely do more for her damage than scar skill 1 to 10 would
glad meteor
For trina s2 most important
shell hazel
it's 5/10/5
I'd propose 5/10/7 they have a ton of skill books
not like they'll run out bumping that to 7 😛
glad meteor
Wdf 🐳
misty finch
trina burst to 7 though doesn't need gold books you should do that if you ever r...
Yeah sure I’ll do that
shell hazel
beyond that I'd re-visit once you got snow white done tbh
personally I'm going to OL xlud or quency eq if I can for the upcoming solo raid that will be water weak prob
misty finch
Oh yeah I would probably build quency and maybe bready for the solo raid
quick lake
too fringe. Better to do sdoro and swha
misty finch
I have those built already
shell hazel
it's mostly rocks and doll mats I'm gated on
I can ol snow white and my doro already has some
but getting the dolls done and the overloads sorted is the expensive part
misty finch
Yeah the OLs on my raid units aren’t that amazing but eh
shell hazel
mostly matters for dps
quick lake
it's mostly rocks and doll mats I'm gated on
still doll? we should have surplus now
shell hazel
nah not me
I've only been playing about a year so I haven't built stuff especially my raid units
misty finch
What ru using to convert blabla into spreadsheet
shell hazel
the blabla api
it's still funny how much more cp my helm has vs everyone else
I got most stuff to like 7 for the units I use, the odd ones to 10
31 SR-15's in 13 months, I may have enough to make it 32 with snow white but actually not sure I do
misty finch
the blabla api
Does it just export it all nice like that?
shell hazel
sort of just csv I can paste the text into a sheet with formating on
spiral onyx
Scar doesn’t feel that op as she used to in arena <:pepehmmm:955702916294008923>
Scarlet-Jackal + Blanc/Trina is a very tried and true general purpose combo that has survived the test of time and continues to hold a stable spot in CA at least
spiral onyx
it's still funny how much more cp my helm has vs everyone else
I still find it funny how my Noise is my #9 highest CP unit
shell hazel
raven #2 ofc!
misty finch
sort of just csv I can paste the text into a sheet with formating on
And it just works?
shell hazel
I had to put work into making it work in the first place but yes
misty finch
I still find it funny how my Noise is my #9 highest CP unit
Yeah she’s like my 5th or smth 💀
misty finch
I had to put work into making it work in the first place but yes
Ight so there is some sort of translation layer needed 😔
shell hazel
yes
hollow lagoon
@shell hazel Noah can be saved aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa yessssssss
shell hazel
noah 2.0 will have 60s of invincible shielding
hollow lagoon
Nah Noah 2.0 will cast queen beam when struck
swift mango
As in you’re spending like 300 skill books for 2% attack increase
Better than 100 rocks.
But yeah, if you are new, safe to keep her 7710
swift mango
noah 2.0 will have 60s of invincible shielding
Nah Noah 2.0 will use her shield smash to instantly wipe, ignore all kinds of blocks.
keen vapor
I still find it funny how my Noise is my #9 highest CP unit
Why your Blanc is not stacked
spiral onyx
Why would she be
raven plover
worldly osprey
what is the deficit like?
same cp. lap red took 5.6m. rumani took an 11m crit. helm took 5.2m. nayuta took 7m
shell hazel
it does look weird, video quality not fantastic though lol
raven plover
maybe, just maybe
shell hazel
camera footage of a screen rather than a screen recording
raven plover
you see how nayuta instantly heal back to full
prolly the slash didnt kill the other 3
and because nayuta share heals
they all back to full fast
shell hazel
her heals seem stronger than normal to me, she's not bad at healing but not usually team back to full that quick?
worldly osprey
it does look weird, video quality not fantastic though lol
sr this not my video. this is a video from someone in my union
worldly osprey
before scar nuke and after scar nuke. only helm lost hp
lusty gull
her heals seem stronger than normal to me, she's not bad at healing but not usua...
helm heal from burst shared by nayuta
hollow lagoon
@shell hazel shiet, forgot the need for pilgrim attack gear
I was predicting osanis and I’m fine with tetra shit, but lib drained my pilgrim attack stock
shell hazel
I just need pilgrim attacker hat so I'll use my t9m selector for it
worn ridge
Indom vesti
swift mango
<@537671555539271690> why is only helm taking damage though? <:PepeTF:9607386431...
Oh wait, my bad, they didn't evade the wipe, just taking small dmg and healed back. Only HelmT died.
The life steal happened so fast you would think there was no dmg.
shell hazel
<:CrownOwO:1451374290057560336>
just run same but noise noah vesti biscuit jackal
I don't think s.anis should out-do your vesti here
hollow lagoon
Deficit player?
worn ridge
I don't think s.anis should out-do your vesti here
The issue here he is 641 meanwhile im 621 plus all its nikkes are max core
shell hazel
you're not at deficit shouldn't matter
swift mango
nayuta heal I mean
Nayuta shares healing, Helm gives life steal, the life steal from HelmT nuke is shared between nikkes, but HelmT HP got zeroed by Scarlet so can't heal up. The rest got their HP filled.
@worldly osprey
It's similar to if you burst 2 RH under Rem Healing share. The whole team healed up.... Oh wait you probably can't B2 RH and Rem at the same time I mean... But could do HelmT and Rem... Even Alice and Rem.. Or MilkT and Rem
shell hazel
The issue here he is 641 meanwhile im 621 plus all its nikkes are max core
try my suggestion and record if you can?
hollow lagoon
Just salad that comp
shell hazel
are you not saving rocks for snow white?
worn ridge
try my suggestion and record if you can?
178kvs209k
The battle last like 30 seconds
Ty
shell hazel
np, you can't always lazily copy opponent team but in this case I think you're just trading for a better dps lmao
worldly osprey
The life steal happened so fast you would think there was no dmg.
i get it. but the second image i sent earlier is a frame right after scar burst. so if hp dropped and then got healed, that’d be pretty normal.
but in the clip there isn’t a single frame where lap or rumani lose hp at all
hollow lagoon
are you not saving rocks for snow white?
I have 24rocks and a dream of 2 ele
shell hazel
do you want these Zanta?
hollow lagoon
I have 1000
shell hazel
you could have 1000 more
shell hazel
umbral belfry
hollow lagoon
And I’m definitely Gae for hippo
hollow lagoon
shell hazel
hollow lagoon
Shoulda been “butt ok” instead
Im a tragic whale being abused by @umbral belfry while in a long distance relationship with @swift mango but who I really want is @shell hazel who’s the closest replacement to @tropic summit
shell hazel
Railtracer changed his name
he was AZX guy - maybe it's the return of the true idolmaster?
hollow lagoon
Verily so it is
swift mango
i get it. but the second image i sent earlier is a frame right after scar burst....
yeah, healing and dmg counted at same time visual wise.
shell hazel
Hime says she'll marry you but only if you can find and return the true Tracer of rails
hollow lagoon
I’m sick af right now my sanity is in short supply, I need to go look at ai generated Cindy for mental support
hollow lagoon
Hime says she'll marry you but only if you can find and return the true Tracer o...
I’ll marry Hime if I rent you for my union for the duration of the torture
Wait
shell hazel
hollow lagoon
Who’s gaslighting who
swift mango
hollow lagoon
U just want Hime to be able to legally drain my rocks
So u can be free from the rock drain
shell hazel
she's already doing it illegally what's the difference?
hollow lagoon
I can sue her for it
shell hazel
but she'll take half your money in the divorce
you'll have to spend 50% less on nikke then, meanwhile Hime will become the true mega whale
hollow lagoon
Ha the trick is to get my mom to write a debt of a lot of money so I’m legally bankrupt
shell hazel
but she won't marry you then you'll be a poor peasant :9
hollow lagoon
That’s fine I’ll look at ai generated fish
Arcana @umbral belfry was superior anyways
umbral belfry
Arcana <@57872649673510912> was superior anyways
silence
onyx scaffold
New Snow White must have pvp?
quick lake
Possibly yeah
swift mango
New Snow White must have pvp?
Defend on her skits really
She looks like Vesti 2.0
But how she actually worked needed to be tested.
They keep powercreep dmg the game getting boring and whale dominance more easily anyway.
The real fun in Arena are support units which they ignored.
I mean Arena in any games.
glad meteor
Im a tragic whale being abused by <@57872649673510912> while in a long distance ...
Rail ping
midnight coyote
how does this team work
gritty ridge
Standard noise noah
Noise taunts to p1, shes really hard to kill. Then noah bursts for invul so liberalio can wipe
signal hull
Yeah speaking about this kind of team - My Noise (P1) has whole 2 tier less CS than my Noah (Noise at 8.98%CS, Noah at ~15%). Why does my Noah gets stunned by Siren anyway?
swift mango
Mana is there in cased Noise, Noah or Libby got killed before they burst.
gaunt pulsar
Yeah speaking about this kind of team - My Noise (P1) has whole 2 tier less CS t...
with new frame "buff" to rl your noah might having exact amount of cs to taunt siren when she stuns, heard something about frames being changed after Terminus ticket patch or around there thats her on p2 with 15% and on the second picture i'm assuming frame buff that happened
signal hull
with new frame "buff" to rl your noah might having exact amount of cs to taunt ...
Damn... So am I supposed to drop one CS line on Noah now? 😒
gaunt pulsar
that's just my assumption, you are first one i've actual heard about that, but immediately thought about recent change have something to do with position no longer matter for rl's iirc
swift mango
Damn... So am I supposed to drop one CS line on Noah now? 😒
switch noah to p3-4-5 first to see how it works
signal hull
Alright, I'll try that tomorrow (beat him today, by the sheer fact that my Noah bursts faster than his Siren stuns, by a millisecond).
Maybe if I use Rumani instead of Noise? I think she taunts at burst.
swift mango
Alright, I'll try that tomorrow (beat him today, by the sheer fact that my Noah ...
also try rounding your charge speed.
a 8.xx
and 14.xx
could both belong to tier 11% after rounding.
signal hull
Well, my Noise is 8.96% and my Noah is 16.16% so I think I should be good?
swift mango
Well, my Noise is 8.96% and my Noah is 16.16% so I think I should be good?
hard to say without knowing the lines tbh
signal hull
hard to say without knowing the lines tbh
Maybe it has something to do with my Noah's extra ammo...
signal hull
Well, it still should be 9% Noise vs 16% Noah, right? At least one tier apart?
placid bloom
it should be with that much gap, but you don't know for sure without putting it into frame calc
depends if you have a lot of x.49 or lower getting rounded down on Noah and a lot of x.51 being rounded up on Noise
signal hull
I mean I can drop some more CS on Noise, if it helps, I don't think 8% will help anything at this point, I just want Siren-proof Noah...
gaunt pulsar
Well, it still should be 9% Noise vs 16% Noah, right? At least one tier apart?
it wont help
if you hit her right when she stuns
you need 21 vs 15/18 noise, or drop cs on noah
placid bloom
better to just make your entire team 11% cs+ so Noah always burst before Mermaid stun
swift mango
4.33+5.21+5.21 is 11% tier for example. But your Noah should be safe for 15% tier.
Noise could get to 11% at most.
signal hull
So what do? :/
ELI5
I can't really spend enormous amounts of rocks anymore getting all units to 11%CS+. Kinda moved to a good unit and it requires pure PVE focus...
swift mango
So what do? :/
Just try Noah in p3-4-5 first, Post your gear with CS line by line or use comment in pin if you wanted their actual CS.
signal hull
Mkay
oak hatch
Alright, I'll try that tomorrow (beat him today, by the sheer fact that my Noah ...
It’s normal, when ur Noah bursts before siren stun, siren can hit Noah over noise
swift mango
It’s normal, when ur Noah bursts before siren stun, siren can hit Noah over nois...
Yeah, That's work.
signal hull
Ok, thanks all, I'll see what happens when he changes teams and Siren stuns before my B2 bursts.
swift mango
It’s normal, when ur Noah bursts before siren stun, siren can hit Noah over nois...
But if Noah is stunned after she burst then it's no problem though
oak hatch
Ye there’s no problem with the issue reith described since Noah already bursted
signal hull
No it isn't, was just trying to figure it beforehand, because it's kinda getting competitive in my bracket atm.
oak hatch
If Noah didn’t burst, siren would of hit ur noise probably
swift mango
No it isn't, was just trying to figure it beforehand, because it's kinda getting...
Your Noise is likely actually 11% if Noah burst before Siren.
Unless her 2nd hit isn't needed to fill gauge
gaunt pulsar
If Noah didn’t burst, siren would of hit ur noise probably
with 15-16-17cs noah you 2 frames after siren stun, but if something changed and position no longer matters then you hitting right on stun with 15% on any position 🫡
signal hull
Alright, if I run into a real problem with this, I'll drop one more CS line from Noise. Or try to increase Noah's CS, 2 of my CS lines are at 3%.
oak hatch
with 15-16-17cs noah you 2 frames after siren stun, but if something changed and...
The 2 frames was a rl buff I think?
Shouldn’t go after
Nvm frames I mean
gaunt pulsar
The 2 frames was a rl buff I think?
we will see if there will be more people complaining
oak hatch
I mean gonna just test after reset and see if anything’s changed, don’t think that rl frame buff should change the taunt tho
swift mango
with 15-16-17cs noah you 2 frames after siren stun, but if something changed and...
Nvm you mean the cs taunt I guess, not burst,
gaunt pulsar
yes
swift mango
gaunt pulsar
just to clarify, because you probably know, was 18cs noah safe with 11cs or lower noise?
swift mango
I doubt it work that way but I could try to test.
swift mango
just to clarify, because you probably know, was 18cs noah safe with 11cs or lowe...
what do you mean by this?
gaunt pulsar
if you have 18cs noah and she shoots p2 siren, who will get stunned noise with 0-11% or noah with 18%+, before burst
oak hatch
Btw my noise was taunting even at 0 cs when my Noah was 15 cs so having more than 1 tier lower doesn’t matter
swift mango
Afaik taunt target doesn't switch that fast, Siren would always hit Noise with 1 tier slower CS, she wouldn't switch between taunt.
gaunt pulsar
will test one day myself 
swift mango
tomorrow then
oak hatch
Welp everyone removed siren from their rookie team
gaunt pulsar
Welp everyone removed siren from their rookie team
what people do in yours?
oak hatch
Afaik taunt target doesn't switch that fast, Siren would always hit Noise with 1...
But the only situation I’ve seen siren switch targets is when Noah burst happens before the stun, must be the case if happened before + after the frame buff
oak hatch
what people do in yours? <:pepehmmm:955702916294008923>
My rival can’t even order his team correctly
Only can hit 4 players ig with my amount of points
gaunt pulsar
i see
oak hatch
I usually test this way since only place I can find siren + decent teams but out of tries today from testing my scar team
gaunt pulsar
oak hatch
gaunt pulsar
returned from surface trip
wild hemlock
@umbral belfry can we wake up yet
hollow lagoon
Why u abondoned us
U weren’t here so I poisoned their minds with weird comps
Finally u can undo the damage
tropic summit
well i'm not really back, I haven't been in good shape for the past 3 weeks, physically
hollow lagoon
Oh me sick too
hollow lagoon
well i'm not really back, I haven't been in good shape for the past 3 weeks, phy...
What did @umbral belfry do to you
tropic summit
once i feel better i'll pop up again but until then I'll be just waiting for the inevitable idolmaster minigame that'll come with Anis
signal hull
There is... ugh... No Anis.
signal hull
There is Snow White 😄
umbral belfry
<@57872649673510912> can we wake up yet
if you fork over your scar crit rate yes
wait RAIL
umbral belfry
ok boop u can wake up
umbral belfry
https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-gif-5677380953331354485
rail came back home with milk!!!
shell hazel
where you been Rail I was sad we may not see you anymore 🙁
I was getting withdrawrail 🙁
tropic summit
where you been Rail I was sad we may not see you anymore 🙁
life decided to screw me over
umbral belfry
did you screw it back
shell hazel
life decided to screw me over
well you know what we do with life!? we turn it into lemonade?!
tropic summit
wake up one day, massive pain, straight to hospital and 3 weeks of pain and rest 
glad meteor
Kara ping <:EinkkPoint:1056962745536360598>
umbral belfry
oh no :(
tropic summit
did you screw it back
umbral belfry
I hope you feel better rail
tropic summit
<:poggies:956366150311215265>
tropic summit
I hope you feel better rail
eeeeeeeh if anything i can finally feel a bit my fingers
umbral belfry
tropic summit
pain is still atrocious at night, 3 hours average sleep for the past 3 weeks and waking up sweaty at 4AM aint fun
tropic summit
buuuut it's hopefully gonna get better?
umbral belfry
this is k's fault
shell hazel
that sounds bad but I'm glad you're back!
glad meteor
this is k's fault
umbral belfry
yeah get better soon
shell hazel
since you were gone we had a new pvp cook enter the chat. @hollow lagoon stepped up as Rail 2.0
tropic summit
yeah get better soon <:AliceLove:1047176125585043496>
tropic summit
since you were gone we had a new pvp cook enter the chat. <@209403770298302465> ...
@hollow lagoon are you at least getting paid?
hollow lagoon
<@209403770298302465> are you at least getting paid?
No but I accept spicy images of Helm
tropic summit
No but I accept spicy images of Helm
shell hazel
he always was
tropic summit
No but I accept spicy images of Helm
let me provide
we were together at the beach just now
shell hazel
holding || hands ||
tropic summit
holding || hands ||
giving her plenty of my ||love||
shell hazel
Rail you take it easy ya hear! rest up
tropic summit
ironically it hurts more if i lay down
shell hazel
no need to pvp cook all the things - people can well cook themselves to death haha
tropic summit
they told me that i should rest, but then they told me i better exercise afterall
witch stroke is pure evil
it's like the human body giving you a full fledged middle finger
tropic summit
"today i'm gonna break, fix it and suffer"
also doesn't help that ironically it happened on a sunday, which was the last day of my 7 days holiday
literally the 6 days before that i was healthy af
umbral belfry
let me provide <:hmmz:955829922088235068>
I'm a little distracted
shell hazel
at least it wasn't just before your 7 day holiday!
imagine you had a nice week booked off and then boom
tropic summit
at least it wasn't just before your 7 day holiday!
ye if it was at the beginning it woulda really sucked
keen vapor
bricking today are we? <:pepehmmm:955702916294008923>
IT'S NOT JANUARY FIRST 
shell hazel
if I'm gonna be screwed at least let it be when I should be working
tropic summit
it ended being 5 days of sickleave, then 3 days of holiday + christmas, finally more sick leave
tropic summit
IT'S NOT JANUARY FIRST <:ChimeKisama:1336174940659122186>
what are those 2 attempts doing there
shell hazel
IT'S NOT JANUARY FIRST <:ChimeKisama:1336174940659122186>
get back to work
https://tenor.com/view/meme-nikke-goddess-of-victory-nikke-dorothy-dorowhip-gif-13339968757220517040
tropic summit
shell hazel
umbral belfry
yeah guys get back to work
shell hazel
you still call this work
umbral belfry
tropic summit
yeah guys get back to work
surrounded by doggos everyday, i envy your job sometimes
keen vapor
what are those 2 attempts doing there <:EinkkPoint:1056962745536360598>
Living peaceful days in arena
shell hazel
don't they just kind of look after eachother? 😄
tropic summit
Living peaceful days in arena <:sadge:956063730116988960>
it's easy, just do this
umbral belfry
tropic summit
even almost dead he still wins!
fortunately nikke just need 1 hand to play
i usually play clearly with 2 hands...
shell hazel
@hollow lagoon only ever plays with 1 hand probably
shell hazel
you have to type with 1 hand?
placid bloom
is this the technology for ignoring calls
umbral belfry
LMAO ifk why thats
tropic summit
you have to type with 1 hand?
now that i've partial sensibility again i can actually use both
umbral belfry
there*
shell hazel
couldn't feel a hand at all? that sounds awful 🙁
tropic summit
2 fingers specifically
the real problem was the pain with the nerves and the muscle
hollow lagoon
at least it wasn't just before your 7 day holiday!
I’m caught a cold and I’m on vacation right now
vapid lake
Is that him
tropic summit
I’m caught a cold and I’m on vacation right now
take sick leave and join me
shell hazel
I’m caught a cold and I’m on vacation right now
you're probably in the Bahamas 🙁
hollow lagoon
tropic summit
Is that him<:poggies:956366150311215265>
it lives
shell hazel
Rail is back woohoo!
vapid lake
wild hemlock
if you fork over your scar crit rate yes
hollow lagoon
Rail is back I take credit
tropic summit
won't forget those juicy 15 hours in emergency care on monday with people telling me it was nothing serious while i was screaming in pain internally
hollow lagoon
I sacrificed my health for the ritual
shell hazel
nah I sent @gritty ridge to find him a while back
wild hemlock
ok boop u can wake up
umbral belfry
<:Bedge:1341744086205599866>
vapid lake
Came back just in time for the next allegedly super op pvp dps 
shell hazel
and the disappointing livestream
vapid lake
(allegedly)
tropic summit
Came back just in time for the next allegedly super op pvp dps <:NeonPoint:12588...
oh le snow whiteroni
waiting for that noah 2.0 that instead of invulnerable gives indom for 10s
full team indom let's go
placid bloom
if her burst charge shot still only hit 1 target after 3.2s charge it will still feel bad
tropic summit
and the disappointing livestream
all i need is anis and idolmaster simulator minigame
vapid lake
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Gz6YVAzbB8o
hollow lagoon
<:CindyDeadInside:1306601518539083776>
tropic summit
Rail is back I don’t need <@249994164123598848> anymore
umbral belfry
2 fingers specifically
placid bloom
already abandoned after lost gey virginity
hollow lagoon
<:pfftomg:972297799335043092>
Why did u break rail’s finger
shell hazel
zanta bully Hime pls help
hollow lagoon
Oh noes Hime hard counter my very being
umbral belfry
Why did u break rail’s finger
I told him it's break time
tropic summit
<:pfftomg:972297799335043092>
m'am, it is not what you may be thinking (unfortunately)
hollow lagoon
I told him it's break time
It’s pink and it’s evil
tropic summit
shell hazel
Rail was doing too much finger things
hollow lagoon
We now know why hime locked rail in her basement
shell hazel
it's a christmas miracle either way
tropic summit
it's a christmas miracle either way
i had the worst christmas in a while, miracle in reverse
shell hazel
but this means your gacha luck will return next christmas
and it will be the best christmas ever
tropic summit
the good thing is that i had a lot of time to play my non family friendly VNs that were piling up
umbral belfry
m'am, it is not what you may be thinking (unfortunately)
hollow lagoon
I had sick Christmas b4 but it’s just a cold and severe lack of sleep
Didn’t have a hospital delivery
tropic summit
let's take a look at nikkeart on blablalink, by the pop-
may aswell rename nikkeart to nikke18+
hollow lagoon
Seems like rail evolved the “cultured” stat
tropic summit
i was just looking for cute pictures of the new snow white
shell hazel
bottom right but she seems to have misplaced her outfit
tropic summit
oh i found something for blood
hollow lagoon
Bottom right she seems to want milk
tropic summit
@swift mango
hollow lagoon
Dayum daring arnt we now
tropic summit
best christmas present one could give him
shell hazel
it's on official blabla community it's probably fine? 😄
hollow lagoon
From blabla
hollow lagoon
https://tenor.com/view/jujutsu-kaisen-jjk-anime-toge-gif-20909380
Reminder u only got 1 hand atm
placid bloom
it's time to play using eye tracking technology
hollow lagoon
that it sucks being partially without 1 arm
Normally it be a tough choice but right now….
shell hazel
play in VR
tropic summit
it's time to play using eye tracking technology <:clueless:1030024390190055445>
where's my nekomaid androids IRL
hollow lagoon
where's my nekomaid androids IRL <:pepehmmm:955702916294008923>
Nero maid alt prophecy from rail
shell hazel
ikuyo azx!
tropic summit
oh mama
hollow lagoon
Finally a non Dorothy pilgrim tier water unit
Tis a shame SU should kept up the meme and just make more versions of doro
shell hazel
tropic summit
the more i scroll nikkeart the more i know i won't be scrolling this in public
gritty ridge
@tropic summit welcome back
hollow lagoon
I scroll it in public
tropic summit
<@192343505731977217> welcome back
glad meteor
<@537671555539271690>
shell hazel
placid bloom
you can browse it on your TV screen bikini like Elegg
so everyone around you can enjoy it too
tropic summit
you can browse it on your TV screen bikini like Elegg <:clueless:103002439019005...
so the whole family can appreciate
quartz vortex
does anyone lvl up boots for pvp?
glad meteor
it's easy, just do this
hollow lagoon
https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266
Me solving declining birth rate by making stimulating the general population, it’s god’s work
glad meteor
does anyone lvl up boots for pvp?
@umbral crown does
gritty ridge
I do
tropic summit
<@674014956315869194> does
@umbral crown levels up the underwear too
placid bloom
Me solving declining birth rate by making stimulating the general population, it...
you can also contribute by getting a harem and making 325 children with each woman
tropic summit
gotta get those extra stats
hollow lagoon
you can also contribute by getting a harem and making 325 children with each wom...
But I’m trying to become Gae
(It ain’t working)
placid bloom
God can make you a pregnant gey virgin
gritty ridge
<@674014956315869194> levels up the underwear too
Imagine equipping those on your nikke
hollow lagoon
hollow lagoon
Imagine equipping those on your nikke
If the ratings for this game weren’t 13 the favorite item would def be something different
gritty ridge
If the ratings for this game weren’t 13 the favorite item would def be something...
Privaty makes do
glad meteor
Nikke is wholesome game 
hollow lagoon
hollow lagoon
Rail irl
tropic summit
Imagine equipping those on your nikke
tropic summit
If the ratings for this game weren’t 13 the favorite item would def be something...
ah yes, they'd look like vegetables 🥒
hollow lagoon
Was gonna say undergarments but sure
tropic summit
hollow lagoon
tropic summit
@keen vapor did you use your attempts, 5 minutes left
although i see you claimed the outpost
shell hazel
he's sniping
tropic summit
definitely
shell hazel
shell hazel
just waiting for the right snipe opportunity
hollow lagoon
<@750749905903157419> did you use your attempts, 5 minutes left
Rail being the mother hen of PvP
glad meteor
Rail being the mother hen of PvP
keen vapor
<@750749905903157419> did you use your attempts, 5 minutes left
I'm at work
hollow lagoon
24hours and 3 minutes to sw banner
tropic summit
I'm at work <:ChimeKisama:1336174940659122186>
make sure your funds don't all go to those lewd skins
shell hazel
24hours and 3 minutes to sw banner
nah it's earlier
hollow lagoon
Quat
shell hazel
it's 00:00 UTC +9
tropic summit
Rail being the mother hen of PvP
keen vapor
make sure your funds don't all go to those lewd skins <:susge:133644761623350495...
Alice the cutest
glad meteor
Korean time prob for ny
shell hazel
it's 19 hours away
tropic summit
<:ChimeCry:1336176772621799464> Alice the cutest
shell hazel
so we'll get snow white around the day reset I think same sort of time CA results usually come out
terse abyss
Is There's a Nikke that remove stun
tropic summit
The upcoming gatcha that is
dis?
hollow lagoon
Is There's a Nikke that remove stun
Xmica remove in burst. Base ade immune
tropic summit
glad meteor
tropic summit
there are 2 big things distracting me in that skin
umbral belfry
<:madge:956063730028904458>
whale
tropic summit
My first c1
keen vapor
there are 2 big things distracting me in that skin
Big rabbit?
tropic summit
Wasn’t free
you wouldn't gem
glad meteor
I did
keen vapor
I did as well
glad meteor
MY ENEMY STARTED IT
keen vapor
you guys both got the rosy's gemming disease <:poggies:956366150311215265>
No, I got cured
eager mountain
gemming is good, in a sense that at least it means they still give a f
tropic summit
gemming is good, in a sense that at least it means they still give a f
yes but have you seen those christmas picutes of lib on nikkeart
umbral belfry
I pray i will never experience gemming
tropic summit
I pray i will never experience gemming
umbral belfry
glad meteor
I pray i will never experience gemming
The whale is scared
eager mountain
yes but have you seen those christmas picutes of lib on nikkeart
no... thought id see a lib skin around new yr tho
umbral belfry
The whale is scared <:susge:1336447616233504959>
am f2p
tropic summit
so f2p that no one challenges me so.i will never experience gemming
m'am to gem you the opponent first needs to be in range to even attack you
should probably solve that problem first
eager mountain
<@500060972946554890>
but.... isnt cindy like 155 cm
tropic summit
but.... isnt cindy like 155 cm
ye that pics kinda skewed but i wasn't paying much attention to their height
eager mountain
ppl would assume lib is the smol sis
but she might as well be taller... not like i know cindy is that short until a recent random post
tropic summit
imagine down the line cindy and lib get more scenes together and actually grow closer
i'd actually ship them together as sisters who started as enemy but then grew closer
meanwhile siren can closer with levi
eager mountain
the dev note really seems to confirmed deaths
so no more lib nihil ships ig
tho i havent really ship her with anyone
tropic summit
yeah unexpected that SU went with the confirmed death route
was expecting something like what they did with SW
although they chose "safe" nikke to kill
imagine if they had nayuta or scarlet die
eager mountain
have been sicken tired of cheated deaths like vipers so...
placid bloom
Red Hood still has to die again after she comes back
eager mountain
but then suddenly theres a 180 degree twist, death is now real
gritty ridge
<@500060972946554890>
tropic summit
Red Hood still has to die again after she comes back <:clueless:1030024390190055...
time to get @shell hazel's rocks
shell hazel
enjoy!
covert lintel
If only emma doesn't have any healing
eager mountain
we already went through this <:whyyy:955828925693558814> <:whyyy:955828925693558...
tropic summit
Any suggestions to beating this team
you need 436k CP to not be hit with deficit
static karma
hmmmge
tropic summit
if you're noahless you need rosanna or a 2RL no feed team to try and snipe them pre 2RL
still that'd need to not be in deficit, your current team is
tropic summit
what does no feed mean?
you're on the left, enemy is on the right
enemy is running a jackal linked scarlet, meaning they gain feed in p1 and p5, based on how many bullets you fire, which gives them burst gen but also gets scarlet to proc s2 even more often
if you were to run a team that is natural 2RL without feeders (only RL and SR units), you could keep them potentially to 3RL instead of promoting them to 2RL, which means you burst before they do
that'd let your helmT or vestiTU be on B3 while enemy isn't even on B1
but your problem is that you're not lethal if you're on deficit
which kinda kills that chance
static karma
oh ok thanks for the help I'll look at my options to invest
tropic summit
oh ok thanks for the help I'll look at my options to invest
see if you've any high CP unit that does not feed that can fit here
you can B1 and B2 with RH for all it matters, you need your p1 to be linked and possibly not helmT linked
to give you an example, this team is natural 2RL and without feeders
assuming vestiTU is linked in p1 and you're not in deficit, you'd kill them before they even reach B1, as you'd be 2RL against 3RL
tropic summit
they feed you with scarlet and blanc so even if you drop to 91% with SBS yes you'd still be 2RL
run this team in shooting range and ensure your vestiTU is linked first of all
static karma
Alright lets see
tropic summit
as for the feed, you can use this tool and check these values to find out your/enemy feed
as you can see enemy feeds you 60-62 bullets, which accounts for 20% of your burst at 2RL timeframe
if you're 91% with SBS to 2RL, that means you'll hit 2RL via feed
notice how low your feed here is:
regardless your main objective against that team is to kill blanc in p3, vesti is perfect for that
static karma
Alright thanks I need to get vesti's attack up she isn't linked with this comp
time to ROLL
tropic summit
Alright thanks I need to get vesti's attack up she isn't linked with this comp
ok you could make do by not bursting with RH
jackal vestiTU helmt flex flex (2RL)
keep in mind you still need a B2
and that does not feed
static karma
yeah I don't have a high CP subtitute b2 yet that isn't a feeder
tropic summit
oke, you know what to work on at least then
static karma
thanks 👍
gritty ridge
Rail i have so many pvp units built now
tropic summit
Rail i have so many pvp units built now
real pvp main
gritty ridge
I even have moran overloaded
tropic summit
does anyone still hit you?
gritty ridge
Only the 2 whales
tropic summit
gritty ridge
Im abusing people at 38% deficit
tropic summit
what a booly
confusing the whels
they probably already reported you for "hacking"
gritty ridge
He even changed his team
gritty ridge
tropic summit
poor whel... using blanc in p1 shows how little they play pvp 
gritty ridge
"All these units are s tier on prydwen how did I lose"
@tropic summit ive become the cp gapper
tropic summit
<@192343505731977217> ive become the cp gapper
oof against higher synchro opponent too
dim escarp
rail is back 
gritty ridge
This is my favorite still
tropic summit
gritty ridge
Btw he hit me like 40 times in the past 4 days
shell hazel
rail is back <:pepewow:1134478430835060886>
shell hazel
Btw he hit me like 40 times in the past 4 days
terse abyss
had noah on p2, rumani on p1, was still getting stunned by mermaid at 2RL 
shell hazel
had noah on p2, rumani on p1, was still getting stunned by mermaid at 2RL <:Anis...
noah taunts
fathom rock
had noah on p2, rumani on p1, was still getting stunned by mermaid at 2RL <:Anis...
If noah hit their mermaid she can taunt them and therefore self stun
If rumani bursts on time and taunts her with another shot instead noah might survive the stun 
By having rumani stun instead
Don't rely on fb happening before siren
fathom rock
had noah on p2, rumani on p1, was still getting stunned by mermaid at 2RL <:Anis...
What you figjting
quartz rover
terse abyss
i forgot the team exactly, it was noah/mermaid/liberalio/helm/laplace
i just didnt expect p2 to get stunned before its able to burst
shell hazel
noah taunts
fathom rock
Noah will taunt p1 or p2 mermaid naturally
shell hazel
if opponent siren is in p1 or p2 your noah will just go "hi stun me pls"
fathom rock
If target skipping or p2 taunts noah she can taunt enemy p3 etx
terse abyss
oic so their position matters too
shell hazel
whatever noah hits gets taunted by her
rl splash on p1 and p2 by default
so yes very much the case
terse abyss
til
fathom rock
If your noah is p2 and their siren is p5 but noise is p4 and hits your noah therefore noah 2nd hit hits noise guess what
shell hazel
@hollow lagoon Snow White banner comes along when Brid goes exactly the same time so you can check when it's arriving then
terse abyss
maybe it depends on whose hits last 🤔
shell hazel
you can chain taunts essentially
so something taunts your noah, your noah hits those things, now noah has taunted stuff
if siren isn't at p1 or p2 then you're generally safe putting your own noah at say p5 assuming it's your only b2 capable unit
fathom rock
2.5rl
Jackal trina scarlet siren noise (linked noise somehow)
Vs
2rl
Rumani noah sbs biscuit helmt
Guess the winner
Can't 2rl team have cs and negate siren problems anyway
shell hazel
needs 2RL and like 11% CS on every battery
even that may differ a bit now if they changed the frame thing
fathom rock
My vesti now has 20cs 
shell hazel
fathom rock
even that may differ a bit now if they changed the frame thing
So my 15cs comp is actually safe and I didn't even realize it
fathom rock
Can I finally call her finished 
That's a mag of 18 btw
I am tempted to try and get more cs on boot for 21cs
Cuz why not
fathom rock
can put the team into nikke.top and check the frame data for B2
It says my cs is 21? 
shell hazel
due to rounding?
fathom rock
fathom rock
20.27→21 how
shell hazel
CS is grouped then rounded
fathom rock
20.27→21 how <:KEKWut:956062601178140672>
slim mortar
helm 5%, chest 6%, gloves 6%, boots 4%
shell hazel
if you have 4.33% twice then it first groups then then it rounds up or down.
4.33 + 4.33 = 8.66.
This then gets rounded to 9
fathom rock
So just like max ammo I need to meet the guy who coded this
shell hazel
21% is 21% barely seems worth changing anything there
fathom rock
Only thing worth increasing is 8% atk and 15% ele
shell hazel
25% is too difficult to reach really I'd not bother
you could do but I dare say you'll get more return spending rocks on other units
fathom rock
I'll save my rock for snow maybe her pvp is good
Her skill hits all enemies that can be something
Imagine the bgen
shell hazel
besides that will still be meta water dps even if her pvp doesn't wind up being that good
fathom rock
Raid dps? On my pvp only acc? 
misty finch
How does baytr stop AoE nuke?
shell hazel
misty finch
I’m just seeing dmg share and a bit of dmg reduction in her kit
shell hazel
she does that and it just stops it
her kit and what she actually does never made sense btw
if she has cover up she can block certain aoe nukes. I say certain because apparently it does not work on lib
but she can block scarlet or cindy AOE if used on the right timing and positioned so she has cover up
shell hazel
yes
you can see here I ate a scar nuke (I lost because of positioning and not running xmaiden etc)
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NiXl8_0-0UE
if anything it shows how bay just ate it without any concern as I had no b3 😛
gaunt pulsar
I’m just seeing dmg share and a bit of dmg reduction in her kit
her pre-treasure also still translated wrong
shell hazel
she can still function without treasure but her treasure also adds cover so she can restore lost cover and then b2 accordingly
misty finch
you can see here I ate a scar nuke (I lost because of positioning and not runnin...
Wouldn't rosanna have killed helm anyway?
umbral crown
<@674014956315869194> does
Yes, everything lv5
misty finch
Or does bay have positioning requierments
shell hazel
helm dying is np it's lack of alt b3 that was my issue there
umbral crown
<@674014956315869194> levels up the underwear too
shell hazel
hence I ran a later version like I sent you earlier with xmaiden instead
misty finch
So how did you lose because of positioning
umbral crown
Rail being the mother hen of PvP
shell hazel
So how did you lose because of positioning
not positioning on that one sorry, I had another one where I had a similar thing and it lost because my b3 was helm who b3 then died lol
and my other b3 couldn't do anything 😄
this shows my refined version better but it doesn't show the catching of scar nuke as well
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/75DxrpXOTfk
shell hazel
haha sorry it was OK on my end but I don't have my volume up high usually
gritty ridge
haha sorry it was OK on my end but I don't have my volume up high usually
Have my volume up
shell hazel
I mostly just uploaded them here to remind myself what I ran as opposed to proper showcase videos
gritty ridge
And down, and up, and down, and up, and down
shell hazel
And down, and up, and down, and up, and down
did you put it on 11 yet?
shell hazel
no mm
gritty ridge
Then yes
shell hazel
good to hear
misty finch
But basically bay redirects attacks to cover for a bit?
shell hazel
yes
gritty ridge
Yes
shell hazel
and she does it a bit better with treasure
gritty ridge
That means pierce attacks wont be blocked
gritty ridge
and she does it a bit better with treasure
shell hazel
but mainly you treasure so she has good cp
I like mine for anti-scar comp essentially as it lets you flex Noah on another team
but her timing is as tight as her top, you have less of a window for her b2 compare with say Noah
misty finch
For how long?
gritty ridge
It depends on the enemy team
misty finch
as right as her top?