#pvp-arena
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c'mon guys i really need help, im tired of always being in top 20 in rookies
Hime just allow to cook people who has more than 8 ammo
I'm about ti sleep :( sorry

echo or rosy help em 
whats your current defense
this
attack team is the same as def too
here is the sp teams just incase you want to help me change it 
rail helped me built them last time
i see, in sp you losing a lot?
ye
lets try something different then
okay thanks for helping btw
☆☆☆ SP Defense ☆☆☆
Rumani/Nayuta/Siren/Biscuit/Cinderella
Jackal/Liberalio/HelmT/X.Maiden/Blanc
LaplaceT/DrakeT/Naga/Centi/Red Hood
☆☆☆Rookie Defense ☆☆☆
Noise/Jackal/HelmT/Cinderella/Blanc
can you?

nice i'll try the team real quick, also, can i ask this, how do i know what team against what, so i can switch slots for better winning chance?
liberalio team is good against teams that have no protection like noah, rumani team is good against most teams but the chances are low against scar teams or teams that has siren in it, also team 3 try to avoid jackal teams with it since SG will feed them
but you can try them in rookie to get used to them
try to wishlist Vesti, Noah, Scarlet
ok ty, appreciated the help

Pvp channel burning down without rail🔥
Real MAs not picking up the slack
elaborate

thats just asking to burn out, you also need to give the people the ideas for them to cook , not just relaying in others

Every CA I lose from now on WILL be Railtracers fault

That's why I don't cook for other people. PvP is a competitive mode, if people want to win, they need to put in effort themselves. A helper's job here should be to help point to the tools and resources needed to help someone succeed, but it's up to the individual to gather the ingredients and do the cooking.
Rail taught me how to cook👉👈

unfortunately it's not a culinary school here, but a soup kitchen
and that isn't likely to change anytime soon
Would you rather teach a man to fish or hand out free fishes?
when no one wants to learn to fish, but only accept free fish, I either hand out free fish or leave 
and I'm all out of fish
If there's willing free fishing teachers but the people are too lazy to learn, let them starve
Those gems are tasty per 14 days in SPA
Then they should put in the effort to earn them
whats the best way to beat a team like this? do i just drop my own nayuta and red hood and add my own vesti and another burst gen
can try jackal+blanc indom, kinda depends on how heavy hitting their vesti is though, but at core 0 doesn't look that scary
at this deficit it hits too hard thats why i think i have to race it (and suit up jackal)
might have to wait until you stronger
jackal deserves some gear and that will greatly lower the deficit
just gotta see what resources i have to keep for new year
Didnt think these defs would work
sir your Bay is out of job 
Figured out changes to my teams for S20 that should fix two of the issues I had (SG team blowing up Noah and XSoline getting Siren stunned)
Of my other losses, I don't think I can do anything (Scarlet Trina losing to Scarlet Blanc, Rapunzel AoE stun, SG team losing to Scarlet Jackal with P1 Noise)

I tried Scarlet without jackal, she always die right at the burst, is it normal or is she too squishy, her doll is max level, the issue might be she's only lb1
Happens. Scarlet is squishy
What is the best way to counter
Scarlet / Rapunzel / Laplace / Crown / Jackal?
Is there faster team or ?
Noise Noah Cindy THelm Jackal, or any Noah team tbh
Thank you 🤌
What about
Blanc / VestiTU / Biscuit / Emilia / Rumani?@quick lake
Scar Trina RH THelm Jackal
Wut happen here 
Any other teams? Or that's the only one?@quick lake
Any 2RL Scar Trina team should work
Scar trina flex flex flex
Uh... I tried centi, anis and pepper as highest burst generation
Or I need just rl?
Confused
Try be more specific and tell him you need sp attack 
@quick lake 🧑🍳
The gap between diamond 3 and 2 is unbelievable 
T1: Scar Siren Trina Centi Jackal
T2: Noise Noah Cindy THelm Rumani
T3: Skip
I need specifically rock and Blue/black CS. Gimme please. : 🥺

Oh wait, gib me yellow book please. 
I guess I need to skill reset Mana and DKW in 5 months. Please give skill reset period in new year SU, it doesn't need to be books just the chance to use them. 
At least let me reset mana, the books can be returned in next skill reset period. My mana has been bricked for months already. Why make units where it's bad to level up their skill? F U
gotta put tempering cube on her for the best chances
We need whatever happened with drakeT to happen again
Yeah, My DrakeT got black line ATK, I need that to happen for my other unit too.
7 rocks today for nothing
15 rock all for nothing
I just wanted a decent line 3 so I could start locking and fixing helmT line....
All I got was hit rate and charge dmg. 
CS, Crit, Ele, ATK would be fine. 
Time hibernate still next skill reset. 
This game doesn't want me to have fun. 

Waow
Hey Master, I tried to contact you but the msg cant be sent. We need to add friend, I have something to ask you.
Laplace plass
Trust


Ill give you 5$ if this happens
who in SU made it so if you don't use quick battle, you can't replay...
Intern-kun
anybody know what to try with noise/moran noah biscuit vestiTU helmT/jackal not working in rookie?
Yes
Is it a siren team you're going against?
idk, its my defense team so idk whats beating it
the weird thing is noise jackal worked for a few attacks
after changing off of moran noah biscuit vesti helm
and then noise noah biscuit vesti helm worked once
so idk whats being used

@gritty ridge how is red name life treating you?
Same as usual
did you find Rail yet? 🙁
Hes sleepy

hi @umbral crown 

probably, its about time to be honest
you got this, lock in
I will steal rocks from Hime so I can build the NY unit
imagine is Anis pop Star
it's perfect! iku yo AZX!
anis and snow white means 2 1 % banners though :9


where the jims
shift up got em

get all the 1% banners
and run
the most important part

priscilla new SSR trust



new season next year so there is a chance
C7 Max Doll Max Skill
he was on the AZX the whole time?
damn that actually makes a lot of sense
I miss Rail 
Is this a good counter?

Depends on vesti cs, and if ros can nuke 
and if biscuit dies
it looks like rookie so who cares, try it 🙂
yeah its rookie
nothing to lose, you will gain experience and if lucky, some points
if not go: Jackal/Vesti/LaplaceT/Blanc/HelmT
cp should allow it
yeah, thats the best way how new cooks are born
today i did a cook and stopped 2 bois from attacking me

2 children you mean? 👶

fresh out of class - getting schooled

and usual C6 used both tries, guess tomorrow he gonna try again
but i think gonna try a new cook next season
they fail every day?
kinda
but now there is a boi who learnt the hard way and its winning every defense i use
he kept failing for months but now seems he learnt
just f2p some sync
but he just attack once a day so all good
was thinking that
at 472 i have 2 teams with a bit more than 1.1m, the 3rd is 1m
now just starf hitting me once a day
yours is pretty close
they know rosy gonna get em 
indeed and even when pelg is 517 and weij like 530+ , they can not cp gap me
so there is always a chance
waos
I'm catching Rosy 
we close in sync
i'm at 34 boss hard mode though 102 cd/hour
im just... doing the thing
auto ing, the besto way
i just manual the EX because its mandatory...

gues you did not see the time when i was using jackal in normal

I'll manual to keep my outpost good and I don't mind a bit of malding
i passed MW hard with Scalet/Crown/Ein or Cindy/Red Hood/Rapunzel
just now im having a kinda proper pve team
after all pvp units are already max skill and max doll, now im just hoarding kits till next pvp unit
3 days ago
watch this chaos on 33 hard mode boss 😄 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpROLLo2mKY
you got more than me 🙁
im just at the point thinking which unit to max
i did max sugar but i now wonder why
I'll build NY unit
cuz i have never used her yet
build your pve/campaign stuff 
Nayuta siren vesti flex helmt
flex should basically always be rapi
the explosive power of rapi is too good
alt option nayuta siren rapi vesti crown
Rosy rapi prob 1/1/1




i did

ah yes xmica that pvp meta unit 😄
was inspired by keripo back then
keripo corrupto!
when we're super old 😄

🧓
maybe everyone will be a wheel when that time comes
hahhaha
do the honors that day
the dream
Vesti?
Soda
With cube my vesti is like 102 ele or so
Blancs and noahs in p1-p3 can not survive to burst
@glad meteor

she using tempura lv15
Scary ele 
I am tempted to spend rocks before NY unit 
Gotta get 4x atk on my drake too 

i already used all my rocks
nero got 2 black lines
but need to save rocks for absolute , missing 2 of them

🧱
This is whybis hard for me to get ammo or atk
I anything would have to fish atk on boots line 3
Nero treasure when
Never 
Imagine not having like 60 rock 
I hope we get a nice pvp treasure unit 
next week, trust
never had that much
Moran treasure, her dino in the last skin is the proof

now get 5 more
I really hope Rosanna treasure. Just like 20% more dmg 
Too OP 

ikr. Quiry dark horse 


69 where


May i know how much CS i need to reach 2.5 rl i still confuse by lightning icon atleast 15%?
2.5 rl is just an arbitrary time between 2RL and 3RL.
Functionally, 8/11/15/18/21/23% cs all work the “same” as 2.5RL
Simply implies that more cs% means bursting faster than 3RL but still slower than 2RL.
The “2.5RL” marker is better defined as the speed where your B1 activates before the opponent B3 happens
🙂 8 rocks today
good day
Same 
Also don't if it's pilgrim Meta
ur gonna regret it at least wait the banner tommorow then decide
Speculations are ANIS Overspec, New Snow White, Neon Overspec (prolly still sleeping but why not)
I'm gonna flip if it's Missilis Trio
and skip it
even if meta you will OL her eventually
so no big deal to rush to OL an unit

always end up having only 4 roks just to OL on day 1

Yesterday 15 rocks, today 8 rocks. Finally getting something usable. 
It was locking ATK line 3. Still need to reroll attribute

Next I will have to fix HelmT or Emi or Vesti. 
Or maybe... Bsoda
got 5+2+1(from achievements)
How to 15 rocks in 1 day bruh help me gimme ur luck
It was 15 saved from 4-5 days. 
oh I misunderstood then
Thanks
Gimme 1.

Should i make it 18%?
Optional 
yours not 21? 
Yours are? 
Busy with emi
Still can't get the last 5.51
yea
jack trina noah helm 21
for 24? 
23 then use cube to reach 25
What a sweat 
no sweat just pain

This was mine
Other RLs only have around 12-15
ayo 21% besti?

Nah, 20
But can reach it with cube
yea same trying to get 21 
Everyone joining the CS cult 

may i ask more then what is the different between 8cs and 23cs if that will be both 2.5RL
I might gonna login today
cs% is always relative to your opponent's cs% as well. If you have 23% cs and your opponent yas 18% cs, you effectively are only 5% cs faster than your opponent. It matters more in mirror matches e.g. 23% Scar Trina team will nuke first before the 8cs%
I c , assume that both comp are the same i will burst faster right
thank is saved it
Looks fine
I had a nikke disconnect just looking at the sync/core difference 
Core not as good but best offense is ignorance
Ahh, "should've bought more core dust, loser" defense.
A solid choice.
When in doubt, stat check your opponent and run em down
Wrong game but it probably applies here
I'm bussy doing something else

Why still use Siren and helmT? you should use Idoll Sun and Moon. 
Well, suprisingly holiday went pretty well witout me watching over :p
flower
Waos
absolute gaming
I was surprised myself, just some random cooked teams from along the way 😄
Random is key 
Who does this look like? 
Familiar but I can't seem to remember.



Thanks

@crystal flicker stop slacking get back to work!
@umbral belfry get out doro and the whip
I dont get paid enough for this shit
^ that's the one
Hoshiyomi

But you can get whipped enough. 

getting whipped enough to like it 
I'm a little distracted
I actuallythought there's a Tia vibe 😄
Except for the shirt buttons in danger of becoming railgun ammo,still! 


rail mentioned

you all must win CA in his memory

Rail is pvp-sensei
but he was not really interested in CA
what if we already won
i was always hoping to see some nice cooks from him
win again
but he needs the frame once 

I need to win for 3rd time 🙁
rng my way there
i just won once but lastly its getting hard to win
top 8 is hella competitive but im doing my best
yeah it's really tough in my bracket also
fight back!!
people already investing and stuff
I moved to investing pve more lately, I'll still try and keep on top of pvp stuff but I'm chasing 0.5% solo raids more
I was 2% last couple 
the dream
I fell off on Alteisen last time, started trying to make teams too late

Pvp gamers is this a sustainable counter or soda stunning jackal can counter this eventually
usually you mirror but with rosanna instead, ez win
but if it works for you, then go
I'm trying to find most consistent 
Is rookie I can try
Bruh.......
Ros and helmT steal from my scar the jack buff
Dupe bricking at its finest
lemme in your rookie retro
Nooooooooooooooooo 
as long as your rosanna nukes their b3 , nothing to worry about
Does sr15 guarantee soda to survive against scar counters? I just got her to 4 base ol sr5 and still dead
most of the time but also needs tempura
and burst fast before she dies
Any way for sr5 to survive? Using tempering on her rn, maybe def lines will help?
the fact that they have soda instantly voids the consistent part
all it takes is one jackal stun 
Scar sac with jackal in the team 
I'll need to put an actual sac there nice idea 
or just sac them
Invest maid ade 
Hes out of line but hes right 
If I want to increase survivability on soda, would it be a good idea to upgrade chest piece to max ol?
could be an option if you can afford it
Chest piece is better than boots right? Boots give both hp and def but chest gives a lot more hp
chest more important
thanks


Seems like p3 soda survives at least until burst, might just have to go full rng next ca
Just burst faster
Time to get 4 ele on emi to chip soda more since I can use her in scar team 
Prob p4 soda best
Yeah probably for brackets with emi, unbuffed vesti prob can’t kill her and would have to switch uninvested anis/centi to p3 so they prob dead to vesti quickly
Does dmg reduction or true dmg take priority
True dmg affects defence, not dmg reduction
True dmg supposed to be fixed amount
I didnt know how nikke does it
yeah in other games 
I think vesti team could kill unlinked scar, maybe though
in Nikke it only ignore def
P4 soda died here quicker than p3 but probably just bad rng
Depends on vesti cs% actually
12% or more and youre wasting a few shots on invul scar
You lost burst gen because siren died too early looks like
Oh I see
Yeah, thats why i dont want too much
I wonder if the stat increase from sync to 281 to 400 in ca will at least make her survive better
Maybe, hp stat scales better
Is urs sr15
Youll usually still win vs scar anyway with vesti, cuz you run her with noah, blanc, or bay
there’s hope maybe
but tbh the chance you get a Scar mirror vs someone that's like C7 or something is not that high unless you are consistently making top 8 or something
basically every time my Scar Soda lose it's because other reasons, like getting matched into indom 
i will not regret 4OL on Rumani won't i?
Shes a battery, no
Nvm core 3
Her being overloaded is nothing but a benefit
P2 soda right?
Unlinked?
unlinked
ok so i can make her cp bigger, thank you
I even have cs% on my rumani for slow cindy
Helps me win the occasional vesti matchup
Does making slow cindy team faster make it worse for some matchups?
Mirror, but I run cindy p1/p2 so they'd need exact position as me to burst slower
there's no real downside, if anything being too slow is an issue if you get wiped by Lib 
even with as much cs as you can get you will be too slow to get caught by 2RL Noah
Ive got 12% on my rumani atm, its proven it works when I beat a vesti team in top 16
So far the matches I’ve seen for slow cindy no cs vs vesti indom, slow cindy was able to win
Mine matches and others in bracket
Must've been either a slow vesti or a weak vesti
Hmm maybe
like you can lose to 3RL Noah Noise Biscuit but that team is long gone from meta 
3rl cindy
Thats the meta from when I started
This right?
I won one of them and lost to this guy cuz he had better investment on every nikke
I usually see helm there, but yes thats 3rl Cindy
Baby bracket i assume?
Sync 200-400
Yeah thats baby bracket
Win all the frames. 
30 CA win before EoS 
Are u in baby bracket too
Yeah

Just don't lose. 
Im getting bullied by my unionmates
pay SU to customize your matchmaking 
Buy 51% of SU share. 
they have 36 hour delay before CA start to accept bribe 
@shiftup here's 3$ please let me win CA
you can also invest in mind control technology 
Maybe 1000x that and they will let u
No they get 3$
Its all I have
Frenzy they should let me migrate to global so I can be in your bracket
Not too late to start a new acc on global 
Nuh uh
right in time for Rapi rerun
Im not running through campaign again

Worth it for the champ frame
Kuwon I can do whale at 321 right?
can do before that 
Im somewhere in whale chapter, I got tired while running to the boss and went to bed
you just need good RH and good MMast and good Rapi
@gritty ridge Can u take on this guy
biggest whale in my bracket
Yeah, im abt the same commander level and have better invests
Except for that lib wtf is the 181k doing in baby bracket
The usual ca winner for my bracket
@acoustic light
Even worse than lib
Their acc is like 6 months old I think, maybe NA just whaling more 
its so beautiful 🥺
NA is indeed whale
this is why he wins CA
me seeing my mlb sr15 die but burst or just dies bc counters 
f2p for me


baron winning 999 times but never putting on frame. a true 
remember when you were supposed to beat me but you made a grave team error
Kuwon is NA?

top 4 at least everytime
yes. his ign is hydra
Fax
Can I fight him👉 👈
me peepee monkey 
graduate to toddler
Shiftup actually said no
and demote me to baby bracket 
well you will fight Hime before you fight me, my account older 
he wants me to bully him it's okay
Ez win for me
Even more greedy than @placid bloom
p2 soda with 0 invest
every CA he asks if his teams could beat mine 
Look at the cp
and each ca the same answer is no 
get squashed by hoard of dogs
You just keep countering me
death by paws
just get lucky 
69004? 


no bigboi never
anyway me not CA this season so gl 
I do miss poli tho
Fake dog lover. I will beat you when we fight cuz I run poli
Does sr5 base 4 ol soda p2 dead to scar counter in ca

Its dependant on the scar

You run into the 50 atk scar? Its over
redboi 57
Youre green now

tbh if their Scar fat enough to kill your Soda with counter, you probably gonna lose the other matches too 
likely. but for me she usually bursts first before death bc my lowest ca on my scar team is 18 cs
@oak hatch my phone bugged out
it's usually specific people that have strong enough Scar
and they have some things in common 
but even with tempering it's risky. if I see lap + scar I assume my soda is cooked pre burst lol
My scar does her fair share of rosa and soda melting
Emiless bracket 
Noob
c7 emi for me when (in f2p)
My soda is dying to my spa f2p guy’s scar
Hime has been saving all of her mileage since she started for when emi reruns
“When” 

do you level batteries skills over 4/4/4 ? giving them 7/7/7 would do much to their cp?
Hime is sitting on 2200 mileage at least, right?
why save when you can swipe more 
Depends on the battery
saving only for poor f2p not rich f2p 
depends on the unit. e.g trina isn't for me
Centi? Leave her at 4 4 4. Rumani? 10 4 4
nor is rumani, but centi is
Anis? 10 10 10
4/4/4 trina 

Does getting her s1 to 7 help at all, it boosts max hp
eventually have you have enough blue and purple book to just 7/7/7
Get it to 10
it's only gold book that is real limiter
my soda is 4 4 4 so 
Damn, not b10
it's only to CP pad
but like does it do much in increase cp?

Sponsor pls
by itself it's not much
Hime is pvx
Youll get a little, not really worth
no k I'm not a whale like u
Ill sponsor you 10$ if I win CA
but there's a difference between having a full team of 4/4/4 and a full team of 10/10/10 
iirc there is a cp increase with skill levels but I don't think its that much
and usually the people that can afford to 10/10/10 everything also have other advantage too, so it adds up
skill level alone is not enough to gap
but if they have max skill + max doll + 12 line vs your 4/4/4 SR5 8-10 line team
- sync diff
Imagine not 12/12 OL + 10/10/10 + sr15 + max core for all pvp
12 line 
you start seeing diff
I have 1 unit out of all my 150 ish units at 12/12 lines
CA but it's 12 lines sr15 10 10 10 on everyone 
Rapi 
I spent rocks to get 60% scar today

only a whale would do that
Now wll saved up for new years 
k confirmed whale
Hime booly 
Did 20 rocks yesterday for 0 attack lines on scar 
Its just attribute rerolls
Its biggest scam
need quadruple full burst day every day 
3 rock rolls are hell
Can we get another full burst 2 week👉 👈
I did 3 rock rolls to get the line 1 on 3 of those pieces
I spent around 60 rocks on vesti to get 12/12
How would u guys go about fixing this piece? Reroll from scratch for line 3?
on who
How to kill Noahs then 
More atk
Ele is the answer
I can get more attack here but will be expensive
Lock line 3
3 attack 3 ele rn
But ele kills Noah and no Noah = more wins 
I kill regardless of if noah survives

I’m running her in no Noah or blanc comp so can’t kill
Youre one of them crit vesti weirdos aintcha
Video is loading
Bay vesti? With no emi? What are you cooking
flora with abs
Stop you'll summon rinn
gardener needs strong body 
8 ammo
Its what hime would say
this p1 Blanc is truly greed 
Also yeah, p1 blanc no bisc is crazy
Someday , ammo will be there
don't make me mad
It hurts
+jackal ada noise
everyone’s running it in my bracket

what about Ade 
@umbral belfry how did bigboi pass you in yapper rating so quickly 👀

I'm no much for a true yapper
she not enough erp to gain yap exp 


Then unbuffed vesti idk how well that will do

My vesti team has 100% wr and I run noise noah with siren
Siren helps once out of 50 matches
Ive thought abt noir im ngl
works for me with 4 atk 

I can put in laplace instead of ada once I get her treasure
@umbral belfry how much would noir boost my besti pre burst dmg
And no im not gonna run absolute
less than Flora 

Hmmm, does mg or sg feed more
SG feed more but they gen more
Im already 2.1 rl I dont need more gen
Any help with improving my PVP teams please guys?
1: Noah, Biscuit, Liberalio, Red Hood, Little Mermaid
2: Scarlett, Vesti: TU, Trina, Liter, Drake (T)
3: Nayuta, Jackal, Crown, Alice, Summer Anis
Replace siren with jackal; replace drake with centi
T3 is gonna just be your campaign team for now
Thanks, will give it a try later
No
So your Trina 111
?
I have reclaimed my spot. Can't believe the only problem is because I'm 160.
None seems to be attackable.
Why not, At this stage they probably have teams that are mostly filler.
And since you only need to win 2 out of 3 you can certainly swing at 7.
Level wise everyone bis attackable
Okay. Lemme check if I'm still in C10.
Nah. Their teams have PvP essentials.
I don't.
You are at the juncture to decide whether to invest in Arena or Raid. Your investment from this point would change your placement in SR or Arena in the future so decide wisely. You could do both ofc for okay result but you need to be whale for the best of both world.
If you are in Global then it's easier to do both
If you started like 2 year ago, you could probably do both F2P no problem. But SR investment is very hard for new players now.
SEA.
sweaty raids 
It's the hardest server for new F2P players amongst the English servers for Solo raid.
For Champ Arena, it's still pretty hard for new player because disparity in starting date of one bracket.
Ye. That's why I wanted to prio PvP.
If no new bracket were created by the time you get to CA, you would have to fight against me and others whose account 1 year and a half+ older than yours
Small amount of players is bad for new players lol.
i think should be a CA new bracket
Blood and I will be waiting for you
Have mercy man. I literally don't have 80% of PvP essentials.
Hahaha, it’s the system, most of us want Nikke/ShiftUp to refine its CA bracket but so far no “patch note for CA”. I’m also under the mercy of Emilia user.
Oh ye I forgot about Emilia.
I wasn't there, far from it. I skipped every collab except the first Nier.
And even then, my old account is lost to time, definitely bricked in PvP since it's inactive for 21 months.
Even on this new account, I'm often struggling.
anything i could create for my special arena attack team? my old attack team has worked quite well but it doesnt hurt to do some revision
Attack teams usually depend on who you're fighting. Show us who you want to attack first.
Unless you want a defense team.
8
8 is pretty stacked. Like I said, these 3 have PvP essentials and I don't. But lemme log back in and try.
It's the one with least deficit. But not worth. Keep the 10th place. The next reward should be at top 6 I think
oh yea mb, i def didnt waste my attack runs earlier 
ill ask again tomorrow upon reset
Team 2 and 3 seems beatable. This is the new C8.
Ngl your teams are horrible too 
Not my fault I kept getting dupes in standard. I was only in 160 for 4 weeks because all I have were dupes.
I would've been out within 2 weeks if I didn't make poor choices.
Even so, I'm just in time for it.
low sync teams are like that 
I don't think team 2 wins but you can try
i mean has there been anything to pull apart from the limited units this month 
No Emilia means you'll use anis more, you're fine
That's the thing. I don't wanna use gems in standard
you shouldnt either way, new year is just around the corner 
Do not
Team 2 lost cuz I bursted just 1 second late.
1 second is late enough
Don't use Cinderella
She's Modernia level of slow
Both Libe bursted but NCC's damage ticked first.
Who to sub?
I can try again tomorrow.
Bunny Soda?
Rapi is slow as well
Not much to work with. 
Also that PO1 guy prio'd C7 Liter before 160 lmao. Just used everything on Liter. That's the kind of stuff I strive to be.
Fair
No better B1 option
Imma try again tomorrow once NCC shows up.

Also dogged in Rookie.
Wonder if beatable...
Both 3RL teams...
Okay. 2.5 RL with VestiTU and xMaiden holding Adjutant. I think I can win.
And I still lost. Ffs...
Oh wait. I think I did the wrong calculation. AAAAAAAAAAA

Even at 2.5 rl it won’t be fast enough to prevent their rh buffed nayuta burst because libs nuke is delayed
Dang. How we beating that team tho?
I need help cooking to beat my pvp brackets as well
do you still have that testing buddy, and do you guys both have good invest sg comps
So hard to make do without scarlet noah or cindy in pvp
SG comps? Uuuuuhhhhhh
mainly rosa invest
U could try ur own nayuta maybe with vesti bursting but its hard without units like jackal, Noah, blanc

I'm no longer with malogro on rookie, but have woogie this seasons
Also, Rosanna is incomplete, but I can use my rock reserve on her if you want to test high attack instead of 2 ele.... Is it 2 ele still? Don't remember
skill invest
Ez
and what about on woogie end
also one of you need decently built brid (777)
and also similar sync
Any suggestions to improve these defense teams
@violet spoke I have Brid sevens, and you?
And yes, we are
the 3rd team in particular is just a bit slow to get their burst off and I have no ideas for replacements
Maybe u could try this if not in cp deficit, prob gonna be a battle between nayuta still tho at the end
Only have 2 slots for cube.
I need you guys to test something like this against each other:
draket/nayuta/bsoda/noir/rosa vs. draket/noah/xbrid/bsoda/rosa, on both defending and attacking
xbrid can also be swapped with sanis, and other positionings can be switched too, as long as it's always either sanis, draket, or bsoda as bursting b3 for both teams, and noah and nayuta bursting b2, and rosa bursting b1
a lot of tiny variations, anything helps, both your sgs need to approx 3 shot each other for it to be reliable (noah team ok if 4 shot if close)
Just use ur highest cubes, the quantums doesn’t really make burst speed faster there
TF kinda investment does bro have?
We get helm soon in the recruit thing so she can prob help u get 2 rl and beat most of these guys
What if u put lib there instead of maiden
Oh right. Purple SR and SG doll.
prob ol line diff too
No deficit here, can try it and 

Time to claim Top 3 once again.
So Libe can afford to be in P5 and die?
Rank 1 team. Damn... I wish I have HelmT...
Next year...
Also this Nayuta ate everything.
Anis gives more burst gen so better if she doesn’t die early there or u gonna burst slow
Maybe u can p5 nayuta against sg but then u cant run a another b2 character
I see. So the ones with fast burst gen must remain alive...
It's just that sometimes they mess my burst priority.
U can usually just sac lib if u must since vesti the better b3 here, just make sure rh and vesti lives
Ooh. I see
why it's harder in SEA?
is CA bracket I'll get into will be the same with one I cheered on last week?
Yes. Should be the same bracket
ouch.. their accounts like 200-400ish more level than me..
Now you get it
Time to move to global
the solo raid also same bracket yaa
uhh, I got too lucky with recruit I'm afraid it won't be possible with new account
Can anyone please help me?
How much ammo does scarlet need to not get siren stunned?
20-32
Would blanc need the same amount of ammo? And how does bastion cube affect this?
Actually no idea.
I just know that Scar gets stunned if her ammo more than 32 from here.
I have no clue what logic goes on behind that number.
Siren's kit says 50 attacks landed.
So I can only assume that Scar avoids stun because she's reloading/in cover by the time 50 attacks hit.
pvp full of obscure knowledge and not a single good pvp guide online that goes into depth on those things.
Fair enough
I just spent like 20 rocks getting blanc to 32 ammo hopefully it works 😭
I probably should have tried getting CS on my RLs instead 💀
Yeah, probably 
You can't do the same trick on other units cuz they have normal mag size
Scarlet's mag size is shorter than average
Welp that sucks
Well, Asuka is also short
20 rocks down the drain 😔
Is balance
Is dumb to build first ask later 
You didn't saw you started on 60 already 
Pilgrims normally notable for how they dont follow norms at all
Why Nayuta follows every collab norm though, that's weird
U put heavy rocks to make blanc…180 ammo?
U can check prydwen if u ever dont know how to build the characters
Blanc has nothing for lines on prydwen so it means it’s not important investing in her ol lines

To be fair prydwen ain't best about pvp builds
When we mean 32 Scarlet, we mean 32 total ammo (bullets)
In % that's fifty something
Prydwen recs are usually for PvE I believe
Oh nvm they also in have PvP explanations
They haven't updated old chara guide for awhile
Prydwen is just dubious for the most part, its better to just learn and get case by case info







