pvp-arena

[hollow hamlet]

She's overspec and 1%. Who knows.

[oak hatch]

Should have those rewards then

[hollow hamlet]

Nothing for these but gold mileage. Sitting on 27K now.

[fallow nebula]

Dont have vesti

[oak hatch]

27k not much, better to use mileage then, can always wait and get doll mats but those rewards aren’t bad either for those with lots of gems

[hollow hamlet]

I should be able to start doing better in SR museum, lots of doll mats there. Maybe next year will have another Drake type event too, got lots of mats that way.

[oak hatch]

can’t wait for that

U haven’t got the sr museum rewards yet? They should be clearable at around sync 200 besides ultra and the no limit mode

Main campaign team 1 try is enough to unlock almost all of it

[hollow hamlet]

Haven't gotten past no limit mode but also haven't tried in a few weeks

past rank 30 in everything, just need to push

[oak hatch]

Oh I don’t even bother with no limit, that thing is impossible with our sync

[hollow hamlet]

I think I got most of the mats... if I pushed to unlock nolimit it's 30 purple mats, meh

more on Ultra but F Ultra

[oak hatch]

I’m stuck here on ultra

[hollow hamlet]

I had to use Tia and Naga to get past Ultra in campaign

[oak hatch]

Struggles without crown

[hollow hamlet]

This game has some interesting checks for units that come up so rarely unless you are a day 1 player.

[noble hatch]

It comes with time

[oak hatch]

Sr museum ultra gonna be ez for u once u have crown tho since u can make two teams with shields

[hollow hamlet]

I mentioned this in other channels but I'd be tempted to buy costumes if the unit was available for mileage or something when they were doing it. I'm not buying a Blanc outfit if I don't have her.

[noble hatch]

No need to worry too much on the colosseum, you will definitely clear it once u play long enough to have more character and resource to power creep all of them @oak hatch @hollow hamlet

[oak hatch]

We just starving on doll mats lol

[oak hatch]

I mean u can hope to get them in the future with wishlist

I got siren skin cuz I liked it but without the character

Depends how much u like the character ig

[hollow hamlet]

Wishlist is BS - we get one blue ticket a week, ten during events, a few cd-keys... and not supposed to use gems to pull because of mileage

[hollow hamlet]

Hard to know if I like the character if I don't have her, and she hasn't been in a story event I've played

[noble hatch]

There were a few times where the solo raid has issue. So SU gave out plenty of dolls as compensation. I hope more to come for all of us.

[noble hatch]

Firstly, let your lil brother to decide, next go to Prydwen dot come to check if its meta.

[oak hatch]

Unfortunately they haven’t been messing up recently

[hollow hamlet]

LOL. Unfortunately I think consensus is the bunny girls have fallen out of meta. Blanc is still popular and OK but not many people talk about Noir except that she didn't have a winter skin.

Gotta play the meta first. Waifus are nice but being stuck in PVP is not fun

[oak hatch]

Blanc is meta so get her skin for meta

[radiant coral]

Normal mode

[hollow hamlet]

What hard mode are you on?

[oak hatch]

I think 18 boss

[hollow hamlet]

Nice. I'm at 14 boss.

[oak hatch]

This boss is a pain

[hollow hamlet]

I hate stormbringer.

[oak hatch]

I play the game to shoot the enemy, not to duck under cover the entire fight

Which boss is 14?

[hollow hamlet]

sunbather

May be able to beat it now, Cindy is a bit better and I have much better lines on Helm who I usually bring

[oak hatch]

Ah that boss was a struggle too, I think the side monsters one shot u

I used vesti for that

[hollow hamlet]

Yeah I was thinking Vesti/Cindy as my main b3s since they're good at mobs.

[oak hatch]

Used rapi instead of liter cuz the cooldown always got me killed

Red hood for my other b3

[hollow hamlet]

I'm not sure if Siren or RRH have better cooldown

[oak hatch]

Isn’t urs unbuilt

Siren I mean

[hollow hamlet]

Siren's built but has low CP, no torso armor.

head and glove

[oak hatch]

Siren better as b1

[hollow hamlet]

I'll try both, why not

[oak hatch]

Ye gl

[hollow hamlet]

the bomb and energy spam grr

[oak hatch]

Are u using tia naga still or nayuta now?

[hollow hamlet]

Nayuta

[oak hatch]

No shield gonna be rough

[tulip quest]

Tried Nayuta Crown Siren Rapi HelmT?

[hollow hamlet]

no I haven't

[oak hatch]

They don’t have crown

[tulip quest]

hmmmm

[hollow hamlet]

"Let's have a Crown check and not put Crown up to get since she was introduced" - shiftup

[tulip quest]

what cp difference and Code is chicken again?

[hollow hamlet]

weakness is electric

[tulip quest]

IF YOU Cindy Rouge SAnis Ade/blanc Maiden

are you deficit?

[hollow hamlet]

no rouge, no blanc.

313804 vs 403700 for besti/nayuta/RRH/cindy/helmt

[tulip quest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo5G7voaSaY

Tia Naga got?

instead RH Rapi Rh

[oak hatch]

Oh u were asking about my hard chapter lol

[tulip quest]

ya ya

misunderstand?

[hollow hamlet]

ah got it!

delayed initial besti burst

[oak hatch]

Lemme send my box

[tulip quest]

maybe I can help I'm a hc malder pusher

[hollow hamlet]

Hey at least sunbringer is down 🙂

[oak hatch]

Congrats that was fast

[hollow hamlet]

it was just waiting until more of the mob was onscreen in the beginning to proc vesti. After that could have just auto'ed.

[oak hatch]

Vesti is the goat

[hollow hamlet]

I can't imagine getting past 30 without vesti (or SBS or any mob wiper)

[tulip quest]

Crown Liter Rapi Rh RH Naga

[hollow hamlet]

time to push 15 hard

[oak hatch]

Naga better than helm here? I don’t think they have a core

[tulip quest]

Chicken?

but chicken has core

we talkin bout storm bringer right?

[oak hatch]

Ye didn’t know that it has core, gonna try that thx

[tulip quest]

aight

if u can tank a bit and wants heal can also

Nayuta Crown Siren Rapi RH HELMT

Teams are usually cp dependent

[oak hatch]

Been trying with that team but helm instead, having to cover constantly really nerfing my dmg

[oak hatch]

Siren unbuilt

[tulip quest]

cover but hit with the 1 bursting

Put liter has HelmT

FOR BURST GEN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxeAmvH92m4

They mostly crown naga 1 year ago

same with me

[hollow hamlet]

Remember when Naga was meta?

[tulip quest]

ya

Old times

His Cover technique quite good

[oak hatch]

@tulip quest like this or with helm?

[tulip quest]

Goal is break parts as fast as possible

[tulip quest]

HelmT or naga can try

if U naga manual RH for burst gen

Rapi and RH will carry

[oak hatch]

I see, gonna try that, thx for tips just 34% deficit so shouldn’t be that bad just that this boss is very annoying

[hollow hamlet]

You can do it, Frenzy

[tulip quest]

wait till u mald 40% above and 50% for the Fun of it

Malding HC is one my joys

in Nikke

[oak hatch]

I used to be 40-42% deficit but the recent bosses has been bringing my deficit down

[tulip quest]

I'm like 42-43 with 595 level killed ziz at 593

[hollow hamlet]

40% CP deficit?

[tulip quest]

my top 2 and is even more insane 42-43 with 589 level

tho my 3rd is just a semi whale

611 42-43

[oak hatch]

Goated

[tulip quest]

It's actually fun it's like a puzzle

[tulip quest]

2nd placer in my SPA bracket 589 42-43 same

more GOATED

he was a TYR4NNY member

TYRANNY top ranker in Union

their 4th expansion guild XD

that's why 4 INSTEAD OF TYRA

[oak hatch]

Liter cool down between bursts is such a pain

[hollow hamlet]

MC is puzzle enough 😄

[tulip quest]

MC needs certain cp

or Ada + buffed cindy

better if u have Ein

[hollow hamlet]

I'd be one of the lowest clears in the past week if I did it. I do have Cindy and Ada, but Ada only has one OL and R doll..

So it's idle time which is fine

I need to build Ada anyway, isn't she good PVP?

[tulip quest]

I don't really use Ada pvp

just electric raid pve

[hollow hamlet]

Pyrdwen says she can one-shot enemies and bypass Biscuit

[tulip quest]

random target

[gritty ridge]

Ada isnt very good In pvp

[hollow hamlet]

Maybe I'll build her anyway for MC and raids

[umbral belfry]

she's decent in pvp

ada + blanc = she guns them down one-by-one

so a very decent option for indom

[oak hatch]

So I just stay in cover the whole time while shooting with rapi/red hood? @tulip quest

[umbral belfry]

jsasor 😭

[tulip quest]

if you have not enuf damage can try

hitting when helmt burst

[hollow hamlet]

hey @dense kindle !

[tulip quest]

depends on what works actually I did the same back in my time with the guy in video

[dense kindle]

I have to lurk to learn

[umbral belfry]

[oak hatch]

Oh so like I can eat the boss attacks when using helm burst?

[tulip quest]

used RH and Alice now shud be easier tho

[tulip quest]

Yea i think so

[umbral belfry]

i don't use ada + indom personally bc blanc is locked onto my slow cindy, but ada indom is a strong option

[oak hatch]

Will try it

[hollow hamlet]

Ada + Noah?

[umbral belfry]

not sure personally on ada + noah

[dense kindle]

What about Vesti Ada team someone told me that was best one

[umbral belfry]

ada buffs vesti to make her even unga bunga on burst. tbh if your vesti really really needs the buffs (due to low atk as an example), then they work very good together

but if you have a strong atk vesti, ada isn't needed imo. you're better off using a better burst gen

[hollow hamlet]

hmmm build her up, replace RH with Ada in my rookie squad, may need to try that

[dense kindle]

Ty teacher

[umbral belfry]

reason why i run noise vesti xmaid bay jackal is because my vesti is 4 atk. i don't need ada

[hollow hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-so-much-bow-bruce-lee-gif-12203305886570866249

[umbral belfry]

they're dying regardless

but in cases where like 0-1 atk, then i'd lean ada buffer

[umbral crown]

Maybe

[dense kindle]

Darn maybe I should go for bay treasure

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-doakes-curious-suspicious-questioning-gif-14390669560130901665

[tulip quest]

Nice comp would try that just that I don't wanna build bay I also need PVE stuff

also my materials kinda sad

[umbral belfry]

non-treasure bay works too

[umbral crown]

Taking a break from discord i guess

[tulip quest]

Christmas but has nothing

[umbral belfry]

you just lose out on her heal

[hollow hamlet]

she'd be fifth in line for that SR RL doll

[umbral belfry]

but in terms of blocking nukes (assuming fast enough), you can non treasure

[oak hatch]

Rip this is the best I’ve done, seems doable tho now with your tips @tulip quest

[umbral belfry]

minus lib

[tulip quest]

oh it works?

[umbral crown]

[tulip quest]

problem man

[umbral belfry]

it should in theory. the only real thing you're missing out on treasuring bay is her heal

she can still block most nukes assuming equal speed without treasure

[umbral crown]

But what about lobby

[oak hatch]

It goes downhill when they take out my cover

[umbral crown]

[tulip quest]

Can Try Crown Liter RapiRH HelmT Naga

[umbral belfry]

[umbral crown]

[oak hatch]

Lemme try that

[dense kindle]

Rn I use this but since I pve investment maybe the bay one won’t work for me

[tulip quest]

2.5 RL?

[umbral belfry]

unlinked noise in p1

[tulip quest]

Noise bay

[umbral belfry]

ah ah ah

[tulip quest]

jackal link enuf to 100?

[umbral belfry]

if they hit jack, yes

example is def sgs

but other than that it's risky due to unlinked p1 noise = no feed from her

[gritty ridge]

Yall are protecting your noise? Just build her stronger

[umbral belfry]

just max core noise and put tempura

[umbral belfry]

what i ran a while back was linked noise vesti xmaid noah jack, should still be very close to 2rl in a majority of matches

and get your noah out of p2 she's free eats for a strong vesti

[oak hatch]

red hood team worked

[tulip quest]

Welcome to Malders Team

cause Hard Campaign is Meta in SPA

Some level difference don't care about comps anymore

ask my 200 level gapped whale friend

his machineguns 1 hit me except biscuit team

[gritty ridge]

Why not reccomend my evil and effective 100% wr vesti

[oak hatch]

That’s not just hard campaign difference anymore that’s money difference

[dense kindle]

Hmm guess I just put laplace somewhere else

[umbral belfry]

i remember when my noise noah vesti was 100% wr

but then it lost to radeki's 2rl vesti indom

[gritty ridge]

Ive eaten at least 3 vesti mirrors

[umbral belfry]

nothing i can do vs a 2rl indom, you hate to see it

[gritty ridge]

Ive killed whole teams pre burst because of jackal link

[tulip quest]

HC still matters tho im not even Whale or somethin but I level some in SPA bracket by 60 levels

they're lazy pushing HC

Either they're lazy or hard real life work only few minutes of rest and just be casual in game

[gritty ridge]

I outlevel some people by 60 levels in spa

[oak hatch]

There’s a point where the outpost core dust gain jumps from like 70 something to 90-100 right? I feel like until I get to that point the core dust gain over the others will not be as impactful for me

[gritty ridge]

if you scroll down to gold

[tulip quest]

or maybe u got soo much core dust but no credits

depends Credits more important for me ATM

If u wanna level a little bit higher or faster

[dense kindle]

It jumps from 90 something to 100 something

[tulip quest]

DO NOT LEVEL 5 UR Boots unless in Cindy level improvement

[oak hatch]

Yeah I guess any resource gain is good, I’ll keep pushing

[tulip quest]

As they say Mald till ur Bald

[oak hatch]

I level 3 boots on a few characters, am I bricked

[gritty ridge]

I dont do alot of outleveling

[ripe aurora]

Current max income is 115 ish cd/hour with 42-44 hc done.
So with your 70ish (72 Iirc when I was in the same place as you)
You theoretically trailing only 37% to whoever cleared everything.

[tulip quest]

a little depends on how many tho

[oak hatch]

71

[ripe aurora]

But core dust isn't only important resource.
By sl 480 you will be bottlenecked by credits on your weekly earnings of all things, because, starting from 400 - credit requirements to level up ramp up.

[oak hatch]

Like 4 characters Cindy rapi rrh helm

[ripe aurora]

So hoard those credit boxes

[tulip quest]

the Choice BTW if yo uhave Government something to Choose between X3 Credits Hours case or 1 hours Core dust case? Choose Credits bro

[oak hatch]

Do u still get the battle data for credits in the daily shop

I have battle data issue

[ripe aurora]

Battle data is a little issue after 260, since it's almost doubled in it's requirements to level up from 19kk to 30 something.
I had to slow my roll with leveling up for couple of days to let the outpost catch up.

Or was it 250?

[dense kindle]

If not f2p you can just buy $15 monthly pack and forgor about it

[oak hatch]

Ah yeah that makes sense then

[oak hatch]

Choose battle data in the monthly pack worth it?

[placid bloom]

[oak hatch]

I mainly choose core dust there

[ripe aurora]

Realistically your outpost produces the amount of battle data needed per level in 4 days, while 5 days needed for cored dust, if we go purely outpost.
Credits per level covered in 2.5 days.

[placid bloom]

battle data is short term gain

[leaden canyon]

Anybody spend gems on wipe out?

[hollow hamlet]

is it worth it for the core dust? I've thought about it...

[dense kindle]

I think the idea is to supplement whatever your at deficit with ( cd, credits,bd) . For early on most would probably just choose cd

[umbral crown]

[oak hatch]

So the real value is in credits and core dust right? Do u rec buying bd in the shop with credits or no

[placid bloom]

no

because in the long term battle data will manage itself

from your story clear rewards and from how long you need to wait between level ups

[ripe aurora]

You should stop after 2 paid Wipeouts if you really want to.
Massively inefficient after that.
You better off rerolling for core dust boxes in dispatch since it's always 50 gems

[oak hatch]

I see, welp I’ve already wasted too much credits on bd

[placid bloom]

what sync did you spend on battle data

[ripe aurora]

Well acksually

[oak hatch]

Every sync

[gritty ridge]

@placid bloom help its not managing itself

[placid bloom]

cuz the flat 2m battle data at low sync is not the worst deal

[dense kindle]

Did you convert?

[placid bloom]

why you convert everything you have

[gritty ridge]

2 levels 2 months ago lmao

[dense kindle]

[placid bloom]

the cost is gonna increase again you know

it's only 50m/level now but it's gonna go up

[oak hatch]

I didn’t think credits were ever gonna be an issue cuz of this

[placid bloom]

well credit is issue when you reach like the 1.5-2 year mark probably

[gritty ridge]

Bro im getting 7k dust a day, if im only getting enough battle data every 2 days im gonna cry

[placid bloom]

it's more of a long term planning thing

you won't feel it if you quit before then

so depends how long you plan to stick around the game

[ripe aurora]

Oh wow, I guess 300+ gets another bump in battle data price. Great

[oak hatch]

[placid bloom]

no it's because he converted all his battle data

without planning

[leaden canyon]

I have never done either, but rerolling dispatch is worth?

[oak hatch]

Where u getting 7k a day from teach me the ways

[dense kindle]

Yea not really sure where the bd went if it was just 2 levels

[leaden canyon]

I know some people do it

[gritty ridge]

I never converted all

[placid bloom]

[dense kindle]

Unless maybe getting cd packs and leveling too fast ?

[gritty ridge]

I get 10 boxes a day from the monthly thing and I get however many is in gacha skins

I average 21 levels a month

[gritty ridge]

It involves spending potentially 115$ a month

[ripe aurora]

I don't buy gems, only some packs that contain them and I'd say it worth, sometimes.
Because often you get stinkers there like blue fodder or blue doll mats.
One or two rerols every two or three days to get better rewards are worth it me thinks

[placid bloom]

I mean you should not be hitting battle data chokepoint until like maybe sync 600

if you are progressing normally and not converting

[gritty ridge]

I actually just dont know where it went

I ran out of credits at one point too

[placid bloom]

credit chokepoint shouldn't be until like sync 500

[dense kindle]

It’s probably the extra boxes then have a friend who’s going through similar problem

Who also buying the monthly and packs

[placid bloom]

[gritty ridge]

This is my box situation

[placid bloom]

I'm pretty sure if you don't convert you should not have issue even if you are buying some cd

maybe you hit the chokepoints a little earlier but it shouldn't be in the sync 300s

[dense kindle]

Where are all your boxes

[placid bloom]

your battle data usage just slows down too much between 200-300

[dense kindle]

Or maybe I just have hoarding problem

[ripe aurora]

If you only buy core dust you won't be able to keep up.
That was documented.
There is a spreadsheet floating around with whaling guide, to be sustainable with your credits/battle data you should be spending on them too.
There was even a breakdown of best packs.
Seen on reddit somewhere

[gritty ridge]

Gone, used up

[gritty ridge]

I dont buy core cust packs tho

I buy the 2 monthly things and skins

[ripe aurora]

Huh?
How are you getting 7k dust per day then?

[gritty ridge]

These things

[placid bloom]

you shouldn't be hitting 7k a day yeah

[gritty ridge]

Its what I average out to with event+dispatch+idle over the whole month

[dense kindle]

Im at 92 cd/h and I don’t even get that much a day

[gritty ridge]

Ive been a consistent 21 levels a month for 3, about to be 4 months

[placid bloom]

assuming you get 10 box from 30 day supply and 20 box from event HM run + 24 hour gen + 1 wipeout, that's only 56 hours of cd gen

even at 100cd/hour that's only 5600 cd

[hollow hamlet]

15 Hard down!

[placid bloom]

you cannot get 7k a day from just that

[ripe aurora]

Math ain't mathing on that one.

[gritty ridge]

I was 301 at end of anni

I was 281 at end of RE iirc

Im gonna be 321 at end of Christmas event

[placid bloom]

I mean I gave you the daily gen math, and you are probably closer to like 84cd/h

you cannot get 7k off 30 box + 24 hour + 1 wipeout

you do get 1 weekly injection from co-op exchange

[placid bloom]

of 15 x 2 hour

[ripe aurora]

That's my rough pace with 20 sl per month, but I ain't getting 7k per day.
I'd say I am getting around 4.5k-5k

[placid bloom]

there is campaign boss clear core dust, lost sector core dust, and co-op weekly exchange

that is extra that is not daily

but you definitely cannot get 7k a day even as light spender

[gritty ridge]

@placid bloom add 160 boxes from 2 gacha skins a month

[placid bloom]

you can get spikes in cd income

[gritty ridge]

Thats my monthly average including all the big bonuses that pop up

[placid bloom]

but you cannot sustain 7k daily

[gritty ridge]

I level up every 1-2 days basically

More skewed towards every 2

Cash shop is clean

[ripe aurora]

Do hard campaign, you bum

[gritty ridge]

I did, I just skipped alott of stages everywhere

[ripe aurora]

That can also explain the battle data shortage

[oak hatch]

If I get to sync 300, will I be able to overpower this stage without the proper team?

[gritty ridge]

If I do cleanup ill definitely have some more battle data from the clear rewards

Youre already probably high enough

[dense kindle]

Probably but this already pretty high

[placid bloom]

I can use union log reference
Aug 8 - 324, Sep 4 - 341 (+17), October 2 - 356 (+15), Nov 1 - 374 (+18), Dec 5 - 396 (+22)

[ripe aurora]

I'd say you will be able to brute force it on 420k cp ish, whichever happens first

[placid bloom]

I think RE had double co-op exchange with 3 week of co-op that threw the norm off

[oak hatch]

It’s black snake, where everyone using sbs and maid anchor

[gritty ridge]

Not everyone

[oak hatch]

Ok sdoro too then

[placid bloom]

but 20/month should not be normal

[oak hatch]

Ok let me try black snake actually, cuz I’ve actually never even attempted it, I just know I’ll get destroyed so I didn’t bother

[gritty ridge]

Black snake is pretty easy, I was sync 253 iirc

[oak hatch]

But u have sbs and sdoro

[gritty ridge]

Its been my standard man, idk

[oak hatch]

Me without both of them

[placid bloom]

you cannot clear the clones with that team

[gritty ridge]

I didnt use either of those

[placid bloom]

you will die

[gritty ridge]

And I didnt have sbs at the time

[placid bloom]

you need some way to clear the clone, it doesn't matter which one

[gritty ridge]

I showed you who I used

[placid bloom]

unless you have enough damage to brute force before clone phase

[gritty ridge]

Quency

[placid bloom]

nah if you use QEQ you are dead lmao

[oak hatch]

Does it look doable with this box

[gritty ridge]

Just time burst perfect, duh

[placid bloom]

you are stuck in 10s FB

[gritty ridge]

Bready doko

[placid bloom]

with no way to heal before it runs out

you will eat double breath before you ever get to burst Helm

[gritty ridge]

Fair enough

Phantom

[oak hatch]

That’s 2 weeks of mats and I may as well build sbs

[dense kindle]

You have manchor?

[gritty ridge]

why is it taking you 2 weeks to overload a unit

[placid bloom]

with your current char you have no way to clear clones

[oak hatch]

Sbs and maid anchor both unbuilt

[oak hatch]

Skill levels

[gritty ridge]

4 7 7 would work at your sync

[oak hatch]

Not my fault sbs fell out of pvp meta so I never got to build her

[hollow hamlet]

All these water weak stages in 16 hard tempt me to get helm's burst skill to 10

[placid bloom]

you can try to Noah block the double breath but I am fairly certain Noah will get annihilated if she taunts triple clone laser

[gritty ridge]

Noah doesnt work iirc

[ripe aurora]

She's still meta in my heart

[oak hatch]

Kraken meta

[ripe aurora]

Also she got killed black snek for me

[placid bloom]

on breath? I am pretty sure Noah can even block wipe mechanic like failing anomaly QTE

[gritty ridge]

I need to see someone on NA get to black snake

[placid bloom]

only issue is she cannot tank whatever other shit is getting thrown at her with her taunt

[gritty ridge]

She can, I dont know if shes able to survive tanking literally every hit from snake up until that point

[dense kindle]

Here my friend clear but he did use mmast*

[gritty ridge]

Thats alpt of lasers

I wanna see if i still have the lowest NA snake clear

[oak hatch]

Woah this is the snake right?

[ripe aurora]

Don't forget about dps loss if you don't have good aoe to kill the offscreen projectiles

[oak hatch]

Never seen a clear like that on black snake

[placid bloom]

well I guess with 3 MG + Mermaid you can hitcount down the clones

I feel like you should have timeout issue though

[gritty ridge]

This was my snake clear

[ripe aurora]

+crazy fast burst gen

[placid bloom]

unless you have insane dps

cuz if you have to hit clones in p2 you are losing so much time

[gritty ridge]

I had to search for it

[placid bloom]

the boss already spends half the time off the screen

between spamming QTE and going underwater

[dense kindle]

Woah bready built

[placid bloom]

if you also splitting fire to clone you should be losing so much dps

[oak hatch]

Welp guess I can’t do it currently unless I go build

[gritty ridge]

At the time its lowest sync clear (across all servers potentially) and lowest cp in NA

[placid bloom]

unless default AI splits fire on all 3 enemy

[ripe aurora]

I think you can still damage it if you shoot water for at least 60% of it's off screen time

[dense kindle]

Makes sense she was featured unit during that SR

[placid bloom]

so you have Crown hitting 1 clone, MMast hitting 1 clone, Rapi hitting real body

or maybe 2s downtime between FB is fast enough to kill clone

Mermaid wasn't out when I cleared so I can't experiment that

nvm she was

I just didn't do it because I already had SBS

well at the very least if you trying to kill clone with hitcount outside FB, you can't do it without Mermaid and I don't see her in your roster

[bold mirage]

When clones spawned i didnt even look at em
Controlled siren and focused down main
I had to have helm burst and do crown tech

[placid bloom]

[dense kindle]

Woah summoned noodle

[placid bloom]

you just eat the double breath?

[gritty ridge]

I was able to find the actual leaderboard

[bold mirage]

It doesn't double breathe if you dont kill clones

[placid bloom]

oh you mean you leave clone up entire time

[gritty ridge]

Im not familiar with the clones at all im ngl

[bold mirage]

Thats what I personally did
Didnt have sbs so had to try something else

[placid bloom]

I guess that works if you don't die to the poison

[gritty ridge]

Idk what they do

[placid bloom]

I feel like Crown should die pretty fast to max stack poison though even if she's taunting the lasers

but maybe your Crown is tanky

[oak hatch]

Lmk if u find a clear without manchor sbs doro and siren

[placid bloom]

[gritty ridge]

That is uhh...

Not gonna be in the low clear section

[oak hatch]

I’m cooked

[umbral crown]

[gritty ridge]

Hi rosy

[bold mirage]

Oof thats a tall order

[umbral crown]

Doing pve i see

[placid bloom]

I mean there is clear without those char

[umbral crown]

Go gem and send a message

[placid bloom]

just not at your CP

[gritty ridge]

Your specialty

[dense kindle]

Oh right forgot we in pvp channel

[gritty ridge]

Im just coping with the fact im gonna get the 30% rewards from coop so im trying to distract myself

My union is all asleep so no good run for me

[oak hatch]

Go coop channel

[bold mirage]

Is coop ended already?

[gritty ridge]

No

[placid bloom]

you need to bring out the firecrackers and wake the pie community up

[bold mirage]

Do u want help getting 10%?

[gritty ridge]

I wouldnt mind it

I dont have tove or s.doro built tho

[bold mirage]

Lemme see if friends r on to carry

[bold mirage]

ok i have some friends on
r u ready

[gritty ridge]

Yeap

[bold mirage]

6BB72SB7

[gritty ridge]

Crown or siren

[bold mirage]

maybe do like helm or crown
if crown help with qtes

[gritty ridge]

I cant text once im in

[bold mirage]

ill most likely do crown since the qtes are a little rough and im used to them

[gritty ridge]

OK ill go helm then

[bold mirage]

ok do crown

[gritty ridge]

Or crown

[bold mirage]

that should do it

[hollow hamlet]

snipers on 16-14 hard are fun.

[gritty ridge]

That score is plenty, thank you!

[bold mirage]

yw lol

[gritty ridge]

I love not having ammo on crown

[oak hatch]

Already up two chapters nice

[bold mirage]

big wanna add me?

[gritty ridge]

As a friend? I can remove someone

[hollow hamlet]

yeah this is the first real hurdle i've faced since 14 boss

[oak hatch]

Have red hood?

[gritty ridge]

@bold mirage 05816159

[hollow hamlet]

yup. She'd probably be good at taking out the snipers.

[bold mirage]

sent

[oak hatch]

All the mob stages shouldn’t be a problem tbh now that we have nayuta and vesti + rh for the quick burst gen and attack buff

Keep trying you’ll get through it eventually

[hollow hamlet]

I was using vesti/cindy as my b3s since 14H boss

[gritty ridge]

Btw, youre part of the sky unions right?

[oak hatch]

I’d go with rh as b3 tbh, Cindy more for boss fights

[bold mirage]

ya just joined lol

[gritty ridge]

Ic ic

I only know a few of the top union groups

Im in one of em

[bold mirage]

😮 this is one of his new ones
more casual one
req was 400 sync but he made some exceptions

[hollow hamlet]

Cindy was doing good though, decent at wiping out the mobs after vesti

[bold mirage]

oooh we practically same sync

[gritty ridge]

My union is technically the 301 sync for babies but I got in at 241

[bold mirage]

i legit just joined like a week ago
hopefully this onion can hit like 1%

cuz i left one that was able to for friends lol

[gritty ridge]

You must have built pve units better than I have lol

Im stuck on ziz and nihilister cuz my rapi suck

[bold mirage]

show me your blabla

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?openid=MjkwODAtMTg0MDI0MjM5ODAzNzM4NDIzMQ==
heres mine

[hollow hamlet]

yeah RH not helping all that much

[oak hatch]

Prob something like nayuta vesti helm red hood rapi

[gritty ridge]

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtMTI0MDQ0OTYzNDE3MTI4NDUzMTI%3D

[oak hatch]

Order it like that so red hood b1 is used whenever it’s available

[gritty ridge]

Yeah youre much better built for pve lmao

[bold mirage]

all ive done is focus story

[hollow hamlet]

Yeah I was manually doing RH during the second burst segment when the snipers show up

[gritty ridge]

You may notice im fairly pvp focused

[bold mirage]

i cant see yours =[

[gritty ridge]

Huh?

I have my nikke set to public

[bold mirage]

all it showing me

[hollow hamlet]

I'll mald a little more and call it a night, chapter and a half in hard is not something I should complain about

[bold mirage]

im signed in and everything

[gritty ridge]

Ohhh, give it some time to load

It just does that for a bit sometimes

[bold mirage]

ok there we go lol

oooh very pvp

[oak hatch]

Ye good progress already

[hollow hamlet]

32% CP deficit, should be doable

[gritty ridge]

Alright im going to bed now

[hollow hamlet]

maybe I will make THelm 10/10/10

[gritty ridge]

Why

10 10 7 plenty

[oak hatch]

Mine 10/10/8 rn, u don’t need her burst that high

[hollow hamlet]

May look at Cindy or Nayuta's skill 2... but no rush, this is pretty good

need to save skill books for OS Anis

[oak hatch]

I did 10/10/10 nayuta and 10/7/10 Cindy tho

[hollow hamlet]

My Nayuta is 10/7/10

skill 2 doesn't sound too useful for this

[bold mirage]

when was your start date

[oak hatch]

Yeah that’s fine, I 10/10/10d when I was swimming in mats, now I have nothing

[gritty ridge]

April 10th

I started same day as crust

[bold mirage]

oooh ok

stellar blade event is what got me sucked up

[gritty ridge]

Hold on

You started on stellar blade and youre sync 320

[bold mirage]

[hollow hamlet]

at least I'm getting to phase 2 of tribe tower 210 (nihilister)

[oak hatch]

Is ur ca bracket with sync 400+

[gritty ridge]

Im near the top of my sync bracket

I think noodle just whaled very heavily

[oak hatch]

So u playing against sync 200s too?

[gritty ridge]

Yeah theres the occasional low sync that sneaks into CA

Lowest ive seen recently was commander lvl 251

[oak hatch]

Oh that’s nearly the same as my bracket mostly 200-300s

And then there’s this 1 guy who’s mega whale at 400

[gritty ridge]

There is this guy

Commander lvl 501 is crazy high

For my bracket at least

[oak hatch]

at least u still win him

[gritty ridge]

Yeah im gonna bully him lol

[oak hatch]

[radiant coral]

my CA bracket is filled with uncs. Put me in a bracket that’s filled with toddlers

[gritty ridge]

Your CA bracket is my CA bracket

[radiant coral]

You get the implication

[gritty ridge]

Im gonna be in your group next season

[radiant coral]

Not if I don’t get into CA like for this season 💀

[gritty ridge]

If you dont get into CA is it really even your CA bracket

[radiant coral]

It was

I mean technically still is since I’m spectating

[gritty ridge]

Who are you betting on?

[radiant coral]

Idk the lack of meta units that these two have is confusing me

I didn’t really look at it real good tho

This Chinese guy and Hiyori in group 2

[gritty ridge]

So nobody i know then lmao

Im in group 3 btw

As long as i dont earn divine punishment I should be clear run to top 8

[radiant coral]

Wow, you got lucky

That guy has some questionable builds

[gritty ridge]

Who?

[radiant coral]

The guy you’re up against

[gritty ridge]

Oh, yeah lmao

[radiant coral]

It’s all PvE teams with a mix of some meta PvP units

[gritty ridge]

Team 1? Solid. Everything else? Solo raid team lmao

[radiant coral]

“If I put this SSS pvp unit in my pve team, it should be good”

[oak hatch]

Does the same few players win in ur ca too or is it random

[gritty ridge]

No thats literally just 4 raid teams

[gritty ridge]

Same few usually

I personally know 3 of em

[oak hatch]

I only know two people that have won in my ca ever since I started this game

[gritty ridge]

Siren mg team, sg team, cindy variant, sbs lib lmfao

[radiant coral]

Yeah you’re right it’s all raid teams except for the first one

[oak hatch]

He so dead

But it’s over the moment he actually figures out how to build proper teams

[gritty ridge]

The poor guy

[radiant coral]

Chances are he probably doesn’t even have any PvP units built

[oak hatch]

I’m sure it’s not gonna take him long to build them up 🐳

[radiant coral]

That is a good point

[onyx scaffold]

so weak

[crystal flicker]

even better

[rustic sandal]

TS so ass. I didn't even last an hour.

[manic venture]

Please help me create 3 pvp teams. Thanks in advance.

[misty finch]

Does this win?

[swift mango]

Probably, could move Vesti p3-4 to be safe

[oak hatch]

Is unbuffed scarlet and nayuta enough to clear that team?

[swift mango]

Well, enemy scar and drake probably be countered to near death, enough for Nayuta to kill.

[oak hatch]

Ye seems fine probably since they have no stall and slower

[short plaza]

why does Blanc's indom link to lib and not vesti?

it's so annoying

[glad meteor]

Vesti has more hp than lib

You could maybe fix it with vigor cube on lib, but need to confirm with math

[oak hatch]

@ripe aurora pushed all the way to chapter 20 boss today but seems like this is the limit for 40%+ deficit without sdoro

[short plaza]

oh that's the reason? maybe I could fix it by upgrading libs chest piece or something if the difference is small enough thanks for telling me the reason

it's probably because vesti has one limit broken already

[glad meteor]

[quick lake]

Blanc applies indom to unit with lowest HP, so need to manage accordingly

[noble hatch]

Whats your 3 fav dps?

[noble hatch]

Your round 3 (Jackel) will win

[noble hatch]

Round 2 a lil hard to say, my experience is telling me your TVest will win

[noble hatch]

Good day Master Blood

https://youtu.be/fqoQgJZeMcc

[shell hazel]

some nice malding

you got the whale next chapter as well, which will be a pain for sure, and then nihil again but harder

once you get past those 3 you can usually push the next couple of chapters a bit

[swift mango]

Good day JJ

[manic venture]

Rapi RH, Liberalio and Quency EQ

[noble hatch]

I've just finished my dinner and completed my co-op. Now I am ready for CA. ♥

[noble hatch]

https://youtu.be/Bc2_jEFkRRM

[noble hatch]

Sorry, among here.

[noble hatch]

Liberalio can work. So you need to pick another 2 from the list above. Liberalio would need protection (tanker/healer) to make sure you can survive and burst. You can put a high burst gen B3 to accompany Liberalio.

[manic venture]

Except for emilia, vesti, ada, maiden, mana and rei I have everyone else built up decently.

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel evil

The cursed comp is a bit too cursed

[onyx scaffold]

So Lib nuke sucks without a buffer

[quick lake]

she should still one shot

[raven plover]

not dee pink lib

[onyx scaffold]

and i hate this

[noble hatch]

??? o7 to the 68%

[noble hatch]

This is insane, W RApzunel, extremely rare for her to be activated

[swift mango]

[noble hatch]

Thats good, good 2 good dps and build them around similarly too.

[noble hatch]

I am rank 80 right now, left 38mins, prayge to stay within the Top 100

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel

[swift mango]

I was lucky and got rank 97 once.

@worldly osprey If nothing wrong happened we would meet tomorrow.

[cursive storm]

Damn meet my idol @brsxshan always vote him when see the name

[swift mango]

I would vote for Niceass.

[noble hatch]

Update: o7 to the 75% thats insane and crazy

[hollow lagoon]

people dont want u to win eah

[noble hatch]

After mastering PvP now im into Coop

[hollow lagoon]

[keen vapor]

So, at best we use Lib as battery?

[swift mango]

Get your champ first.

[covert lintel]

ig i should vote seriously now or else i wouldn't be able to raise my level later

[swift mango]

I only get close wins.

[noble hatch]

Did something happen recently? I notice your last season.

[hollow lagoon]

me too

close enough

[noble hatch]

Omg, please Zantarath if you are one of them. I didnt mean to be rude and vulgar T_T please come to my side ♥

I spread peace and love ♥

[hollow lagoon]

i dont care i'm zantarath

i spread curse and malice

[noble hatch]

Wtf???

[nimble swan]

look at this @shell hazel

[hollow lagoon]

i didnt expect the mana team to work but it worked

but scarlet is like the only comp it can kill

[noble hatch]

Glad that u are in global so we wont meet in CA

[onyx scaffold]

as if your level is near him

[noble hatch]

I used to use mana in CA, it has potential, but well...

[nimble swan]

idk why they hate me

[noble hatch]

Idk, come come hughug.

[onyx scaffold]

i fkin waste helm here

[hollow lagoon]

prob just look at commander level and assume

[noble hatch]

But it doesnt work in my case. My level is higher here

and my accolade is whole load more than my opponent who has none >_<

[nimble swan]

they can also see that i was top16 previous season and that chime guy was nowhere

[noble hatch]

SAME HERE BROOO!!!

[covert lintel]

@swift mango zero in my group run out of luck already

[noble hatch]

I FEEL YOU

[hollow lagoon]

@nimble swan how tf does dis work

oh what rosana targeted my blanc

what in the universe

[nimble swan]

rosanna targets p1 and p2 if no attacker

[hollow lagoon]

well i never maded it to bust it seems

but they still died

oh its mihara's curse

i tell u my comps are cursed

[nimble swan]

[onyx scaffold]

his team is more cursed

[nimble swan]

i was surprised that nayuta team won lol

[onyx scaffold]

mast b2 in slot 1 so he didn't burst

at the end. only rosanna burst

[hollow lagoon]

my bay vesti died to a indom vesti

normal

[nimble swan]

that's how it goes usually

[covert lintel]

I think he burst
But what can drake's burst do if they are immune

[noble hatch]

I thought u would know your team will win here. Rosanna was not countering u

[ripe aurora]

Hey, nice!
I should do it too.
Been neglecting my chapter 20 to mald on normal.

[hollow lagoon]

assuming i know things

[nimble swan]

assuming taking things seriously... he's just having fun lol

[hollow lagoon]

i think i prefer my previous set more, it has a bit more logic

this set is just everywhere

[nimble swan]

@cunning crown won't be lacking having fun next round as i checked the matchups

[brazen ledge]

how to bay moran in pvp ?

[hollow lagoon]

idk but i wont use them together

[covert lintel]

Bad
She died immediately

[keen vapor]

Mirror + biscuit and continuous damage is another option

[onyx scaffold]

Bad is not the right word.

[shell hazel]

evil! who will win I wonder?!

[nimble swan]

but im defending

I tailored my teams especially against the chinese guys in our bracket, didn't think about running into Zant lol

[swift mango]

Should I fish for ATK on line 2 or lock only line 3 and roll until line 1 be CS or ATK?

[quick lake]

why need ele

[shell hazel]

@crystal flicker you got the multi-winner blanc/moran guy next, this is like the final ahead of the final tbh!

[wind kelp]

Oh well, close, but bad matching. Treasure team went up against shotguns(who shot laplace first), nayuta team against noah/libby, and scarlet team against faster scarlet. They did their best! 😄

[swift mango]

To kill Vesti faster. 🤏

[nimble swan]

blanc/moran is PVP Final Boss himself

[quick lake]

Oh that's true, forgot bout that

[shell hazel]

yep

if you win that then I'd say you won CA lol

[covert lintel]

Then you get to meet mihara

[shell hazel]

my last bet was on tenshi so I got some credit containers at least

[swift mango]

Midhara doesn't really matter here.

[noble hatch]

Ahhh my bad, I thought u're SwordsMY

[noble hatch]

I cant make them work

[wind kelp]

Key thing here for me is; I won what i wanted, full treasure team got 3 wins, and next time i can just "try". Good run.

[hollow lagoon]

evil

[brazen ledge]

i forgot to say how to beat moran bay in pvp

mb

[noble hatch]

Update: Coop is over, I am confirmed to be rank 85 ♥♥♥

[swift mango]

🎉

[crystal flicker]

Think I'm gonna lose 3-2

[shell hazel]

will be an interesting one to watch anyway

[swift mango]

Or 5-0

[crystal flicker]

3-2

[shell hazel]

I'll actually bother to watch those matches tomorrow 😄

[hollow lagoon]

[crystal flicker]

Scarlet and VesTac win, the rest kinda rng

[shell hazel]

that guy won it 5-6 times now, so if you win then truly I think champ material 😄

[swift mango]

Slow Cindy without Midhara still works.

[covert lintel]

I thought this was nayuta immune but the camera changed

[noble hatch]

https://youtu.be/wii71xTES4Y

[swift mango]

Many people bricking their Rossanna by having her attack too high so she got dispel including me... It wasn't this way before I started to reroll her... Now I may need to reroll more units to fix this. 4 AtK Rossanna is kinda brick at this point and I only have 3.

I think my Drake will need 4 AtK soon, screw her Ele I would roll them off.

The only unit I have that has more AtK than Rossanna pre burst is Scarlet and RH.

Or I could fix my Rossanna to 2 ATK 4 ELE 6 crit

[gritty ridge]

No

[swift mango]

I just wanted to increase my Vesti ATK here.

6 rock down the drain.

Haiz yapping too much bring me bad luck.

[gritty ridge]

Standard vesti reroll

[swift mango]

Man I'm almost hitting pity twice....

This game is shit.

13 to 15 basically at 100% of 13 to 14

Only save like 150 blue at this point. Totally out of blue dolls and doll mats now.

https://tenor.com/view/dinosolostan-gif-22443651

[radiant coral]

Yooooo a Mihara

I could use a Mihara

[swift mango]

[shell hazel]

oh neat a nero I need more copies 😄

I'm waiting until the ny pilgrim is added to the pilgrim mold before I use mine - mostly I don't expect anything but sometimes you never know

[swift mango]

Nah you always luckier than me so you will be fine. My 4th pilgrim molds in a round that didn't drop SSR btw.

[shell hazel]

I dunno about always have my fair share of bad luck as well

[swift mango]

Finally got something good today.

[frank ingot]

how to win against this in rookie?

[shell hazel]

he's alive! 😮

@tropic summit come back to us verily!

[gaunt pulsar]

@oak hatch easy one for you, our bracket still struggles with on who to bet

[dense kindle]

[ripe aurora]

Hell, last CA 70% bet against Cindoro in the finals

[gaunt pulsar]

that can be out of spite with him i can kinda understand, but some early stages of CA it's wild too, people in majority bet on losers

[onyx scaffold]

am I cooked?

[ripe aurora]

Probably assume higher level = better investment

[hollow lagoon]

@ripe aurora how's u doing for ca

[onyx scaffold]

@swift mango help

[ripe aurora]

Got cooked in groups to last season's finalist.
But it was really close.

[hollow lagoon]

i like left slight more

[oak hatch]

I’m just a newbie, normal to bet against me

[ripe aurora]

Basically got investment diffed.
If my t1 and t2 were par investment - I'd won 4-1 in that match-up

[oak hatch]

I think my failed jackal link will be the reason I lose in top 8

[onyx scaffold]

bro already talking about top 8

[ripe aurora]

He got really easy top16 path

With all the favorites in other brackets

[oak hatch]

Only this guy stopping me from getting top 2

[fast nest]

[ripe aurora]

Lmao

[fast nest]

I am underdog

[ripe aurora]

Hate is real

[gaunt pulsar]

thats my bracket ch1 whale of whales

[oak hatch]

lol why do they hate you?

[oak hatch]

I’d hate to have him in my bracket

[gaunt pulsar]

didnt knew we even had someone like him, got reshuffled to us

[oak hatch]

Next reshuffle should be coming up soon?

[gaunt pulsar]

nah

[shell hazel]

nop

[gaunt pulsar]

like in 2 month

[fast nest]

Feb maybe?

[shell hazel]

it's about 90 days per shuffle we're like 50% in

[gaunt pulsar]

last one was when anni started so 90 days from there

[oak hatch]

It hasn’t even been 2 months smh time pass too slow

[gaunt pulsar]

oh, we already half way there indeed, thought less time passed

should be like 1st of February next reshuffle

[ripe aurora]

Hey, I got attacked today!

[swift mango]

You have better chance.

1 probably lose
But 3-5 probably win

[onyx scaffold]

his 1st team is 3.5RL but welp my lib doing no dmg

[oak hatch]

o i seen him before, u too strong for even semifinalist

[ripe aurora]

Granted, when he reached semis that time he was consistently beating me.
I built my pvp units since then

And I am still building

He's not ready for t. Laplace

I still need to build Rosa and Moran though

[oak hatch]

he will have negative chance to win then

[ripe aurora]

Not resting on my laurels.
So far in my spa I got two guys who can realistically contend for my spot (or Top3 spots in general)
This guy I got level advantage over, other one is ahead of me on sync, but behind on pvp knowledge/investment.
They'll catch up one day, maybe.
And for when that happens I got my spreadsheet with their sleep patterns and activity times mapped out

[swift mango]

3.5RL Noah can BLOCK 2rl Libby Nuke.

Yeah, your Libby probably not gonna do any dmg

[fast nest]

In my calculation, your liberalio team's RL should be ahead by 1.21RL compared to Noah team RL.
(32+60)/76. Just check if your team has enough fast speed over them.

[swift mango]

Libby nuke is that slow.
Slog girl. 🦥

[fast nest]

I found it was around 60 frame(1sec) in my video check. 14~15 bullet of SMG from her burst.

[swift mango]

The dmg even landed a bit after the animation.

[fast nest]

Yes That was what I said.

I checked the frame difference between when she use her burst and when enemys' hp bars were wiped out.

[swift mango]

If your team had more CS maybe you Libby could landed before Noah.

Last I advised Libby 2rl, 0 overall CS against 3.5rl Noah, it was blocked.

[gaunt pulsar]

her nuke do be 60f, calced myself too

[swift mango]

Actually I was blocked as well once.

[fast nest]

I would believe my analysis. Again, I moved the video frame by frame.

[worldly osprey]

good luck to u. im not check seven' team yet so i dont know who will win

[swift mango]

My bad, Noah can't block that. Yeah.

Their B1 would burst before Libby landed though. So it would still be a lose.

[ripe aurora]

What's the sweespot for Noah speed though where most teams will be blocked, 2.5rl or 3rl?

[covert lintel]

All of your luck goes to this

[swift mango]

My Bad, Noah won't block Libby nuke.

But Noise would burst before Libby landed. So you probably won't be able to kill Cindy. Then Noah burst and finished you off.

[covert lintel]

He's becoming SR malder

[fast nest]

Noise OP

[swift mango]

This is co.op.

[umbral crown]

[covert lintel]

i thought it was SR

[swift mango]

Bay would probably block Cindy Nuke. But right just have too much healing.

[onyx scaffold]

yeah i need to nuke both noise and rapunzel to win

[umbral belfry]

my goat

[swift mango]

Noise would apply her HP buff before Libby landed. And their units all have cores while you are 777 0lb sr5.

Maybe you could Crit.

[fast nest]

In my dmg calculation, if lib was max core, then she may kill all. but it was no lb.
Need to see next phase. Idk who will win at that phase.

[onyx scaffold]

7/7/7 lib

[swift mango]

I just got my Nero to sr15 btw, at the cost of near hard pity twice and used all my mats.

Now saving from the start for Elegg

[swift mango]

Actually the Vesti roll was my best luck today.

Then maybe the Noir dupe

The rest not worth mentioning

[bold mirage]

@gritty ridge

[gritty ridge]

Oh hey thats me

[swift mango]

@raven plover how are you doing this CA?

[keen patio]

Oh hey thats me

[eager brook]

Do equipment upgrades apply during the CA season after you locked your teams?

[ripe aurora]

No
You have to relock after changes made.
It says so in the pop up when you submit your teams

Which means team you submitted will be frozen in that state till CA end

[gritty ridge]

Sir you need to work on your teams

[keen patio]

Haha, unfortunately I'm missing a few key pvp units

it's a work in progress

[gritty ridge]

Rip

Good luck on your pulls tho

[manic jay]

hello what's the best team to counter jackal blanc vesti biscuit helm in rookie arena ?

[noble hatch]

https://youtu.be/wii71xTES4Y

[umbral crown]

[hollow lagoon]

We got news for treasure?

[onyx scaffold]

can u try this team?

[haughty mortar]

I actually managed to get to top 16 last season?!

[swift mango]

Elegg was L-e-a-k months ago? Idk why the word is banned.

[hollow lagoon]

[haughty mortar]

@rapid gull Someone is plagiarizing your name! Group 2 and 4 have a Hagane!

[hollow lagoon]

Leek

[haughty mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/orihime-inoue-bleach-leak-spin-leak-ichigo-gif-17437258

[onyx scaffold]

Elegg and Crow new treasure

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/leek-cat-black-cat-leek-cat-petting-cat-gif-8541004419201197763

[haughty mortar]

A battery and a bomb?

[umbral belfry]

little did you know they're both hagane

also hi hagane

[umbral belfry]

let's meet up next ca

[haughty mortar]

That's quite hagane of hagene to do!

[haughty mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/yeahh-gif-5371913741399768223

Something tells me I am not in top 16 this season

[umbral belfry]

lock in

[haughty mortar]

Yes hime-chan

[hollow lagoon]

Release @tropic summit when

[umbral belfry]

never

[hollow lagoon]

[hardy bison]

https://prnt.sc/bcBsT1tdluE6 hey all, how do you deal with teams like this?

[gaunt pulsar]

by bringing any screen wipe nuke that is 2rl, or just helm snipe his vesti

[short plaza]

my blanc keeps dying what can I do about that

[gaunt pulsar]

to what?

[leaden canyon]

Trying to figure this one out

[short plaza]

a scarlet siren team and the same vesti team but with biscuit instead of Trina, keep in mind they have a much higher cp than my team

[gaunt pulsar]

scarlet siren you die probably because you are not reaching 2rl and getting penalty maybe, scarlet also counters back to those who attack her, so at deficit your almost every units gets punched back

[short plaza]

it's likely the CP penalty since I've already beaten a scarlet siren team a few days ago which was only slightly higher cp than me

[hardy bison]

Can you list those units for me? The 2RL ones.

[gaunt pulsar]

biscuit team you die because they are protected by biscuit and even if you kill their vesti with your vesti they still have lib to finishing you off, just wrong units to use against that team, nothing have to do with your setup in particular, also vesti has elemental advantage over wind units, so it means your blanc, and good vesti kills blanc before burst even without deficit

[short plaza]

right I didn't even consider elemental advantage, I'm kinda stuck now though since none of my teams are equipped to deal with those

[primal haven]

Pls help me suggest a team comp for the 3rd team (Moran)

you can even suggest taking Moran out

I don’t have Bay or Emilia

I’ve checked the pinned thread, but there are a lot of units overlapping across different teams

like Biscuit and HelmT

[gaunt pulsar]

drunk scarlet 2rl team, trina jackal one, so like scarlet+trina+battery+red hood+jackal, unless they completely naked you shouldn't die to their vesti
liberalio will work, i dont know your units, but like again lib+jackal+anything that makes you reach 2rl speed
Thelm will work, cindy should work

their whole gimmick is that they shoot your p1 p2 p3 with pretty weak core 0 Vesti, and they trying to protect too much units with biscuit, when hp drops below 50% she casts her skill and protects, twice per fight, making those units immune so direct pressure with basic shots wont work against those for 5 seconds, i would assume they have their tia vesti and jackal linked together, so biscuit protects only jackal+tia, but their whole team is very slow, they are 3rl, with 65% energy when 2rl happens, as long as you reach 2rl and use wipe with cindy/liberalio/scarlet(not black shadow one) they just gonna wipe most scary unit in their team which is vesti + probably blanc, and you finish off the rest, and Thelm targets highest attack unit with her burst, that should be their vesti, and she not gonna be protected against that and just die.

[glad meteor]

That looked like a pretty weak vesti

[hollow lagoon]

[glad meteor]

Barely did dmg to noah

[hollow lagoon]

ur lack of faith in salad is concerning

tbh

how i'm i supposed to find out

@glad meteor here's another one

[glad meteor]

What are they cooking with tia though, your salad comp can win against this I guess, if noah survives

[hardy bison]

Thanks for the tips. Should disclose that this is a friends profile that I basically highjacked. He doesn't have alot of units like Drunk Scarlet but he does have Lib, THelm and Cindy.

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/kowalski-noted-penguins-penguins-of-madagascar-gif-1306663699157096677

That’s why i put ada in vesti comps, no risks

[hollow lagoon]

yeah only way to not die to salad is focused strong single target like redhood or ada vesti or slow cindy (blanc ver)

[gaunt pulsar]

https://nikke-deck.web.app/ use, helps to calculate relative speed of their burst, measured in RL shots, but that's just for simplicity sake, you can input theirs there and build you own, and then do "deck versus deck", it will show if you make him faster by feeding energy to his jackal

[hollow lagoon]

could make salad comp with ada and have 2 good teams instead of 1 overinvested team and 1 deadage stall

[glad meteor]

[hollow lagoon]

[swift mango]

Vesti with enough ELE, CS, plus LapT and Emi in same team, your Noah won't survive.

There Vesti probably had zero CS and not much ele

Your Moran burst before Vesti even land a hit.

[hardy bison]

https://prnt.sc/TdP2w-ItGW5H would this work? If not just list nikkes I can replaces or whatever changes you come up with.

[gaunt pulsar]

should

just check if you are not in deficit also, enemy combat power * 0.846 = least amount of power you need to attack

[hardy bison]

it worked, thanks. I wanted to show another team but the game won't let me them.

[torn osprey]

are these good teams? my first time making my own!!! the order i use them is bottom to top, sry!! theyre built so if a nikke dies I can still fb/sustain health

[gaunt pulsar]

all bad, last one turned out the best, but still kinda bad
you losing the burst battle, you just donna die if opponent starts using their skills.

[torn osprey]

ah I see... helm bay and drake are full treasured so maybe not best to have them on one team

my goal is win 2/3

[gaunt pulsar]

you need to pair units that are high on that list with your dps units, on the basic level of theory.

[torn osprey]

it says anis on there, thats her alter right?

[gaunt pulsar]

purple one, which is basic SR tier

[keen vapor]

No, normal

[ripe aurora]

Pvp isn't about sustain.
Even stall relies on some form of invincibility to get your biggest nuke to burst and wipe opponents out.
On paper any team you built can work, but against similar weak teams.
Welcome to pvp, you bring a big gun and you support it to fire first over your opponent in a basic gist.

You can post your box and someone will help you figure out what teams you can make and strive towards.
Combat power is also a very important factor so most of the time you can't apply advice given immediately because you'd be weakening yourself to a point where there no positive impact over using best invested units.

[hollow lagoon]

if some roll that level of vesti they can

but i havent met one

and sp arena is irrelevant

edge case of edgecase's edgecase

if my noah dies ill just upgrade her skills more and her gear

[gaunt pulsar]

now we wait for patch

[gritty ridge]

Whose the treasures?

Dolla perchance?

[gaunt pulsar]

helm

[gritty ridge]

[gritty ridge]

I thought this was abt new treasure drop

[gaunt pulsar]

i'm far from being able to afford to treasure niche new ones soon to be announced anyway, good for older players

[gritty ridge]

Wdym players like me

[gaunt pulsar]

older*

[gritty ridge]

Im baby sync still lol

[gaunt pulsar]

thats a different topic

why are you still ~260 btw? or how much it was last time I saw? hoarding alot of boxes?

[gritty ridge]

260?

Im 320

[gaunt pulsar]

oh thinking about someone else then

#pvp-arena message this probably threw me off, but that was probably a while ago, and not recent

[gritty ridge]

Ah yeah, thats from quite a bit ago

[raven plover]

losing soon

wait Im 777