pvp-arena

[ripe aurora]

And dodge me.
I get lemon instead

[oak hatch]

Yep my top 3 guy in spa is f2p and he gets there always

My current spa idk if uve seen any of those names in ca

[oak hatch]

trust in ur teams

[ripe aurora]

I think I killed your top1 guy couple CAs ago in groups

If he was in pikapika union 1.5 ish months ago.
Seems familiar

[oak hatch]

Nah he just joined it

His union is kinda op tho, full of 600-700 commander levels

Our union half 200-300s half 500+

[ripe aurora]

I remember I won bizarre 2-1 2-1 2-1 0-3 group with guy's union similar to pikapika.
That was my first top 16 run.
That's when I noticed you in CA first time

[oak hatch]

I saw u were in my guild in ca but no idea u were in this chat under a dif name

[ripe aurora]

Even wanted to congratulate you first time you made out of the group, but then noticed you weren't really active in maidens discord so thought it will be rude to ping you

Turns out you were here all along

[oak hatch]

Dude I was sure I was gonna place top 4 that run but I failed my jackal link

Idk why but helm got my jackal link even with slightly less attack than lib

[ripe aurora]

Helm gets self attack up from somewhere.
Because I noticed it on anomaly ultra and Behemoth fights

[oak hatch]

It was all union raid stuff so I never bothered typing there even tho the leader said I wanted to learn I was more interested in PvP stuff

[oak hatch]

Yeah I only found out after I went into shooting range

I had to upgrade my helm gear quite a bit cuz of that issue since she always lower hp than my dps so my blanc would always choose her over someone like vesti

[umbral belfry]

@dense kindle see you on the other side

[crystal flicker]

@shell hazel

[placid bloom]

11 day afk

[crystal flicker]

Between Heaven and Hearth, I'am, the 🧱'ed one

On that 11 days I learned Hiragana, Katakana, some Hangeul, and Javascript

[placid bloom]

wait that only have 13 cd/h at outpost 475

[crystal flicker]

They hate me

[ripe aurora]

Looking at your power distribution I think you're safe to divest couple of weeks to pve pushing and maybe tower climbing units.
Though of course at early tower you can get away with using invested pvp nikkes.
I'd say sbs Isn't completely useless in pvp too.
So you can try playing around with that. From being stuck in the same place with you after I passed - I gained extra 4 CD per hour. Could be the edge you retain over the top 5 and below.

[placid bloom]

I guess they calc the 15% gen into the UI

[oak hatch]

I’m still higher cp than my tower by quite a bit

[ripe aurora]

Not for long I thought I could get away with just sync pushing towers.
Then bs stages hit at 170 and up.

[oak hatch]

Im also waiting to get some blue rl dolls to get both anchor and sbs dolled, two srs ago i got 0 blue rl doll and last sr i only got 1

[ripe aurora]

Tetra tower is especially pain

Because all tetra got is snipers and barely any screenwipes

[oak hatch]

Yes tetra is my slowest clearing team too

[north brook]

Tetra pretty much needs bmilk without the limiteds

[ripe aurora]

Rl dolls my beloved.
I got 99 problems and rl dolls are 98 of them

[north brook]

Need to manual her dist dmg aoe

[oak hatch]

70k ahead still

[north brook]

But i still run alice, sanis, xlud since they have been way more invested than bmilk way longer

Sanis dots oneshotting all the adds is good enough

[oak hatch]

Don’t have any of those invested on my acc unfortunately

Didn’t play the game before sanis and Alice fell out of meta so never got the chance to build them

[north brook]

Ya i meant both sanis and xlud are limited so tough for them

Alice is still meta, just not ubiquotous

[ripe aurora]

So mad that XLud wasn't rerun this patch
Because she is pretty much only viable MG for tetra to be used in tower

And glass bosses are closer and closer

[north brook]

Think u can run regular lud with blanc for cheesy tank support

[oak hatch]

I’ve only seen use for her during solo raids, for campaign she’s just a headache to use and PvP no

[ripe aurora]

I dread the stage with 3 glasses at the same time

[north brook]

She taunts passively and blanc can give her indom to not die

[oak hatch]

This what I got to work with for my tetra tower

As u can see it’s only pvp characters built

[north brook]

Shes mostly just more difficult higher dmg red hood, still has lower cp clears on mother whale i think

But really her purpose in tetra tower isnt to tryhard kill everything but pierce burst gen and then quick fire her burst on boss

[oak hatch]

Ya she’s solid overall, just hard to upgrade someone like her when there are easier and more consistent options to use, maybe if i really start struggling with tower then I’d consider her

[north brook]

Only need to invest alice to be decently functional these days, not 12/12 like year 1

[ripe aurora]

You could probably get away with investing in B.Soda and Noir for sg team.
That will cover 2 b3 for tower.
You kinda have to invest in your rouge though

Alice also is a must

B.Ade and B.Milk can be left for later I think

[north brook]

Tbh i thought we would have more pierce sniper types forever ago, but its still just alice/rh who have it passively

[oak hatch]

Oh that’s a good idea actually, I need to build them anyway for arena

[ripe aurora]

And they have some semblance of screen wipe

[north brook]

Bmilk closest thing to it i suppose but still cant quick gen at opening with her

Tbh if i were new tho bmilk would be the best cope option, try to get one carry for missilis and tetra invested most likely with bmilk and ein, then rapi for elysion and pilgrim towers

[oak hatch]

I saw someone say that ur cp will always be high enough with how often these towers come around so I never bothered with upgrading characters specifically for them

[north brook]

Early to mid game and esp when u get to mother whale on them ull need some invest

[oak hatch]

Idk how true that is but recently just noticed the clears becoming slower

[north brook]

Later on reqs fall off more but invest makes it easier to not think about it daily

[ripe aurora]

Yeah. For missilis your staple dps are t. Laplace, Ein and Quency eq. Supports are tricky because we have Tia Naga duo and liter who aren't used much in pvp.
Though Trina is still great Naga alternative from pvp realm. So you only have to divest to liter

[oak hatch]

Struggles of being pvp main

[north brook]

Still slightly blue, it only goes up slowly so lvl jumps keep up mostly

If i didnt get stuck on mother whale(s) could mbe have some defecit

[oak hatch]

wow so it does catch up

[ripe aurora]

I am In red everywhere except Pilgrim tower now

[north brook]

But i got stuck on the mother whales for several months and back then too was still not easy blue cp

Since elysion tower before rapi, maid mast anchor, helm was literally just dkw and phantom cope

[ripe aurora]

Yeah Manu mother whales are completely different beasts from campaign/agnostic tower.
Because you can't use crown and Alice or red hood there

[oak hatch]

So many gems lost

[ripe aurora]

You also have mirror container in there, right?

[north brook]

But ya if ur not ready by mother whale ull get stuck

[ripe aurora]

Imagine doing that without Ein or Cindy

[north brook]

Mirror container is free without high defecit

Nothing like mother whale

[oak hatch]

Didn’t they nerf mother whale

[north brook]

Just in normal campaign

[oak hatch]

Oh

[north brook]

The 5 or so in tribe tower dont hold punches

And u also get 2 each in the manu towers

So its like 15 mother whales

[ripe aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/cool-b99-brooklyn-nine-nine-andy-samberg-detective-jake-peralta-gif-11062927

[north brook]

Apparently nayuta hard counters the ball spam phase so probably not as bad whenever u can run her now

[oak hatch]

Pilgrim tower is a breeze tbh

[ripe aurora]

We just need tetra Nayuta now then

Maybe osanis?

[north brook]

And ya mirror container really not that hard, built ein/sanis/rapi brute force it

[ripe aurora]

Please have screen wipe osanis

[north brook]

Could be sth new anis does

[hollow lagoon]

agony

[north brook]

Tbh biggest issue is u cant progress it as fast as the others

[hollow lagoon]

mother whale is easy

mirrior container is deficit check

behemoth got easy

[north brook]

Almost 100 stages behind xd

[hollow lagoon]

ill touch my tower again in like

2 more sync

[north brook]

Since i got past final whale at 880 a while ago can push it a bit whenever, but its a lot of grind

[hollow lagoon]

i just parked at 930

[quartz vortex]

for t drake you use bastion or quantum?

[hollow lagoon]

for pvp?

check ur speed

[quartz vortex]

its 3

[north brook]

Quantum is just if u need a bit more to hit a threshold

U need to know exactly how much gen u have and if u need a bit more

[hollow lagoon]

show comp

[quartz vortex]

dont think im hitting it

[north brook]

Ya quantum does nothing there

[quartz vortex]

if my lib had charge speed itd hit 2.5

[hollow lagoon]

sucidal rapunzel dont feel wise

[quartz vortex]

oh thats not the actually positioning i just set it up to show the speed

[hollow lagoon]

ur goal is a lib nuke or?

[quartz vortex]

yeah

[hollow lagoon]

as long as u know what ur doing then

[quartz vortex]

thats my current defense team

im thinking if i moved the quantum from p1 to p2 they might be able to get to 2.5?

rip no

now that i think about it is quantum even useful before lvl 7?

[oak hatch]

Yes but it’s hard to tell if it helps cuz the website assumes level 7

[quartz vortex]

cuz ive been equipping my units by following prydwen rec

[oak hatch]

Maybe u can throw a couple quantums on ur team if they lower than 7

Most of the time it’s actually charge speed making ur burst time faster

[quartz vortex]

adjuant?

[oak hatch]

It’s usually 11% minimum cs for most rl characters so if adjutant can bring it to 11% then yeah it’s helpful

But like 1 cs line here and there won’t help so need to reach the minimum requirement

[quartz vortex]

i think i need to gear up some units most of them have nothing

[oak hatch]

Ye no rush since not many people have invested cs early sync 200

[hollow lagoon]

I don’t like your sets

[oak hatch]

Focus on vigor cube and tempering too

[hollow lagoon]

Redhood on the Nayuta team would be more threatening

Since that team have basically no real protection and it’s vulnerable to 2 rl nuke

Nayuta on redhood b1can still wipe

Is your sbs even linked in team 1?

U got 3 attackers in that comp one of them isnt linked

[worn ridge]

Is bay treasure still bugged ? I want to invest in her but idk if she needs the treasure ,some ppl told me that she was better without the treasure is that true ?

[hollow lagoon]

Fixed

If u are talking about the weird bug at treasure release

Which was months ago

[quartz vortex]

so i swap redhood and nayuta?

[quartz vortex]

it is right now

i was using redhood as b1 for p1 since its better than jackals

[dense kindle]

It's not looking good for me either

[oak hatch]

Use them together

[umbral belfry]

oh no i meant hm

[dense kindle]

You beat it?

[umbral belfry]

with help

see u on the other side

[quartz vortex]

so who would i take off?

[dense kindle]

left behind again

[oak hatch]

U wanna use red hoods b1 to buff nayuta so try to make a team with that in mind that’s 3rl or faster

Maybe rapunzel but I think the team will become slower

So try swapping stuff around

[quartz vortex]

that one makes it stay the same speed

[noble hatch]

Good day to all my dear PvP-er, its D1 for the CA. I prayge for all success!

[noble hatch]

Looking good there Shxjiii

[noble hatch]

For liberalio team, its better if u use 2 B3, but I know the reason for your 3 B3. so theres reason and logic behind it. Not wrong to try it out!

[quartz vortex]

i guess i could put liter for the buff

[noble hatch]

Negative sir

[oak hatch]

Maybe u can sac liter/tank with her instead in p1 since u already have jackal there as b1

[noble hatch]

W! If u have no other unit then yes, if not then swap to other burst gen character or tanks

[quartz vortex]

maybe i add in ada?

[noble hatch]

my suggestion is put Moran

if u want fast burst gen, put rumani

Noise can be good too, as she heal the whole team once she bursts

[noble hatch]

Or u change rumani to pepper, i've seen people use pepper (uncommon) instead of rumani and it works.

I am going out soon. My accolade is 3 times Top 16 in CA and currently rank 257 in SEA server. Hope I've helped you a little. or wait till my other masters are here to help. Byebye peace out~

[quartz vortex]

yeah ill use pepper since i dant ahve rumani

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/maki-blue-archive-cat-throwing-a-brick-meme-gif-9930019303001355130

[spare nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/filter4jm-gif-13406615214085762610

[hollow lagoon]

[misty finch]

Does this win?

[spare nimbus]

No

[misty finch]

How come?

[spare nimbus]

2rl scar vs 2rl vesti indom

Ur siren doesnt stun jackal before she bursts

[misty finch]

It’s not 2rl though

[spare nimbus]

Your siren and scarlet feed him to 2rl

[misty finch]

Damn ok

How do you get that UI?

[spare nimbus]

Just save the deck

And then do deck vs deck

[misty finch]

Oh ok

Does replacing scarlet with vesti work?

[spare nimbus]

No

Usually you just use a slower indom team again that

I usually use blanc naga cindy biscuit rumani

[misty finch]

Naga?

[spare nimbus]

She’s just there to make sure u reach 4RL

People generally have naga at pretty high cp

So use her since ur near a cp deficit

[misty finch]

This work?

Or do you want it to be even slower

[noble hatch]

no

[spare nimbus]

Your rapunzel will probably die before u can enter burst

[lunar pawn]

Send help

[misty finch]

Just from the vesti AOE?

Does she hit more than 2 units?

[spare nimbus]

3

[misty finch]

Damn ok

So rap and centi swap should work?

Are you sure I can’t just run a 2rl siren team that stuns jackal

[spare nimbus]

Probably not, ur vesti most likely dying

[misty finch]

That’s what the rapunzel is for though right

[spare nimbus]

Do u have 15% cs on centi and biscuit

[misty finch]

Nah

[spare nimbus]

Then his vesti’s burst will just kill ur whole team rapunzel included

Before you even burst

[misty finch]

Before Blanc burst?

I thought 3rl b2 happened before 2.5rl b3

Do I just vesti imdom this instead at this point

[spare nimbus]

You feed his team with blanc

[misty finch]

Blanc can’t make them reach 2rl though right

[misty finch]

Or is it just enough to throw this off

At this point should I just send u my roster 😭

[spare nimbus]

For this u can just do something like noise noah vesti helm centi

Doesnt have to be centi, can be any unit that gets u to 2rl

[misty finch]

I was using that for the t1 though 😔

Can vesti imdom beat that shotgun team

P5 jackal for the gen

This work? Need RH for CP

[spare nimbus]

U can try this ig, blanc vs his sg team and vesti vs his cindy team

[misty finch]

Ight

Does my Noah and helm having 15% CS change anything

[noble hatch]

Hahahah wtf? send help? what kind of help do u need sir?

[misty finch]

Bloody hell I don’t have enough CP to use the liberallio team

[noble hatch]

Also, not enough info to know whats going on

Hi all, PvP thread still feels like home to me. I am back from Coop

[spare nimbus]

Do u have bay treasured

[misty finch]

Nah 😔

[noble hatch]

I do

[misty finch]

Would this not work for T1?

[spare nimbus]

Try this then, noah vs his sg and bay vs his cindy team

[misty finch]

Even less CP on team 1 now unfortunately 😔

[spare nimbus]

How much cp

[misty finch]

781 💀

[noble hatch]

I love your first team, 100% can defeat SG team

[misty finch]

At deficit though?

[spare nimbus]

Who is the weakest in cp in that team

[misty finch]

Jackal

[spare nimbus]

What if you replace lib witb cindy

Are u in cp range

[misty finch]

Nah 😔

This would have enough

[latent bobcat]

Does the top team beat the bottom team?

[misty finch]

But noise taunts the SGs away from hitting jackal bloody hell

[spare nimbus]

No, also wrong vesti

[latent bobcat]

Thanks xD

[spare nimbus]

Is the bottom team yours?

[latent bobcat]

My team is on top

[spare nimbus]

You have a chance if ur siren stuns noah

And ur helm snipes vesti

Pray he doesnt have 11% overall cs on his team

Bc then noah will avoid siren stun

Actually pray ur siren* doesnt die before u enter burst lol

Cause then she won’t even stun since she’s dead

[spare nimbus]

How much cp do u have if u do noah biscuit cindy laplace jackal

[latent bobcat]

Okay

[misty finch]

787

[misty finch]

Are you absolutely sure this won’t work

[latent bobcat]

@spare nimbus sorry this team

[misty finch]

Cuz there’s not much pressure on P1 right

[spare nimbus]

Bottom wins

Oh wow

U must have faster cs then

[latent bobcat]

Interesting

[spare nimbus]

I honestly doubt it, ur biscuit burstic offers no real protection, sanis still might die, you’re better swappin sanis with noah or something

[latent bobcat]

I just need a little bit of understanding for the deck builder. The numbers under RL are the cast times to burst? The higher the number the faster you get your burst?

[spare nimbus]

2rl is fastest burst

4rl is slowest

[misty finch]

Biscuit provides sanis with lifesteal no?

[spare nimbus]

Think of rl as seconds

[latent bobcat]

I get that but what is the percentages for

[misty finch]

And if the SGs get stuck on jackal for a bit while sanis kills

[spare nimbus]

Ur in a deficit, it’s likely not enough to keep her alive

[misty finch]

This team isn’t in deficit

[fickle jetty]

is there any other better team to deal with this
i found out this is not stable after he lvl up unit

[spare nimbus]

.8461 is deficit, ur at .8435

[misty finch]

Feel like every other team has been on deficit so far

[spare nimbus]

Pu did u add cubes

[misty finch]

Ye

Other teams had cubes already when I called deficit

And it was so far below that cubes wouldn’t have helped anyway

But then just that team and this?

[spare nimbus]

Honestly even tho ur in a slight deficit, try noah biscuit cindy laplace jackal

[misty finch]

Ru sure it seems like a pretty bad deficit

[spare nimbus]

Or u can replace laplace if u have a higher cp unit that gets u to 2rl

[misty finch]

And I don’t have bay treasure what would the other unit be

[spare nimbus]

Cindy burst probably wipes that whole team

[misty finch]

Won’t Noah also taunt the SGs away from hitting jackal

[spare nimbus]

It doesnt matter

[misty finch]

What would I run for the other attack again

[short plaza]

what makes that Rosanna team so good up there?

[misty finch]

Drake puts me above deficit actually

[latent bobcat]

She removes buffs

[misty finch]

Ye so mainly it gets rid of jackal damage share

[spare nimbus]

Then use drake instead of laplace

[short plaza]

I've been meaning to change this team do you think that Rosanna team would be better than this?

[misty finch]

What’d my team 2 be? I can’t use the treasure bay team

[misty finch]

Bay even with no treasure?

[spare nimbus]

Yeah

[misty finch]

She’s not built 😔

[warm quest]

does Sakura counter scarlet, if so is it worth it to use her over other character in that match up?

[misty finch]

Is ada replaceable

[spare nimbus]

Yeah

[misty finch]

Anything that charges?

[spare nimbus]

U can use xmaiden ig

[misty finch]

But not a clipSG?

[spare nimbus]

Just make sure that vesti gets link

Jackal vesti and helm should be linked

[misty finch]

First team pits me in deficit 😔

[spare nimbus]

How much cp

[spare nimbus]

Ur fine

Cindy wipes no problem

[fickle jetty]

ok nvm hail rossana

[spare nimbus]

Do u have viper treasured

[misty finch]

Thank god

If we more than an hour just to not win…

I tapped away the replay though rip

But thanks seb 🙏

[spare nimbus]

Yup np

Ngl SU needs to make replay button bigger

[misty finch]

Ig while you’re here do you have any recommended improvements to my def assuming I only have PVE and Top tier meta PVP built?

[misty finch]

Nah swiping away from NIKKE closed the win menu

[misty finch]

So not stuff like Nero Rosanna soda Moran etc

[spare nimbus]

Honestly considering ur more of a pve player its a bit difficult

I can show u what I’m running rn

[misty finch]

Sure

[misty finch]

3.5rl?

[spare nimbus]

Yeah

[misty finch]

Huh 🤔

[spare nimbus]

My nayuta is pretty decent, so it can usually win against a scar team

Which is what some people might use against this

But then again no defense is really unbeatable unless ur opponent is bad

Although most people in my sp can’t beat this, there are 2 who can

I mean even I know how to beat my own team

It all comes down to how much you know pvp

[misty finch]

Yeah there’s this one guy who can consistently crack my defences I just gotta get a few off him for him to give up

[misty finch]

Ye 😔

But there’s no good way to learn it 😔 😔 😔 😔

[spare nimbus]

It’s just experience really

I’m still learning as well

Like I’m not really familiar with comps with units I don’t build/have

Like I’m not too familiar with absolute comp or how makima works, etc

Absolute cause i didnt build emma or eunhwa and makima cause i didnt play when that collab was ongoing

[misty finch]

Yeah fair enough

[noble hatch]

Well well well @misty finch @spare nimbus

[noble hatch]

I am very glad that both of you are learning PvP together. I think both of you can grow fast by teaching and learning from each other ♥

[shell hazel]

F in the chat

[lunar pawn]

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-manga-japanese-anime-japanese-manga-minori-kushieda-gif-5359089

[raven plover]

damn close

[spare nimbus]

[wind kelp]

Well, damn, double damn even. Treasure team (#4, poli, bay, helm, frima, laplace) won all three

Just a note on above 😄

[umbral belfry]

F

[quick lake]

F

[ripe aurora]

@oak hatch Congrats, you've made it, I, meanwhile was close but needed faster Scar, lost 3:2, teams 4,5 won.

[charred condor]

any suggestions on beating this team?

[umbral crown]

Show the teams they won

[noble hatch]

Are u Tav?

[noble hatch]

F o7 Doppel, see you next week.

[oak hatch]

That’s unlucky, felt like team 2 should have won there, did b1 die and no burst? Also for scar match his vesti is on 2rl stall so it’s impossible for scar

[noble hatch]

Hello Master Hime! F to the fallen fellow PvPer

[umbral belfry]

we will avenge hippo

[noble hatch]

U avenge for him, while I'll carry his legacy ♥

[umbral belfry]

[noble hatch]

What does this Doro means?

[oak hatch]

The level conversion in ca somehow messed up my jackal link again even tho I tested it right before ca

[noble hatch]

Hmm tested

Give me 10mins to make my videos ♥

[umbral belfry]

it means

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1273933998762229845/1450302759139147908/XnEdSqB.gif

[oak hatch]

Yeah the link switched from my noise to my ada, I guess the stat boost for attack increased more for attackers from level conversion, downside of being low sync

[gaunt pulsar]

now you know (and I too, would have never thinked about that actually)

[oak hatch]

Yep at least know for next time now

[hollow hamlet]

I'm thinking it's time to build Rosanna, I have an R and SR doll for her, and she has t9m gear (none of it OL.) Would she work with a Cindy team?

[versed mesa]

I went 1-2 worse than last time

[noble hatch]

https://youtu.be/fqoQgJZeMcc

Ty all for waiting~

[umbral crown]

[noble hatch]

Looks crazy and insane, I'll take that as a compliment then.

[noble hatch]

Ahhhhhhhhhh. Okay I get it. Yeah Jackel linked to 2 highest atk. I was hopefully it would scale down nicely from any test, but sadly it doesnt... thats hard.

[noble hatch]

Even if we know, but how do we make sure about the scaling?

[noble hatch]

Personally, I feel Rosanna has potential to be in any team.

[ripe aurora]

Yeah, Noise died.
As for scar, his noise died nanosecond after bursting.
So a tiny bit faster Scar I feel would've been victorious.
I feel it was very close with that one. If only my soda was better invested so she could stun.
He's barely survived with 3 units under 30% left

[noble hatch]

CP bullying? I am joking, haha

[glad meteor]

hows this

Does drake and vesti have elemental lines?

Though if their noah was in p4/5, would need to switch teams

[oak hatch]

Oh yeah forgot u had soda there so it could land u some wins like that

[noble hatch]

W Nodrog

[noble hatch]

I approve this counter, but please make sure the Drake and Laplace has the highest final atk, they must be sacrificed to protect TVesti

[oak hatch]

A Moran would be solid in the noise team in p1 if u get the chance to get/build her

[ripe aurora]

Just checked, my tvesti is actually scary, with 39% atk and 60+elem.
Just need to fish for couple max ammo lines and 1 more cs
And yeah, i got Moran, she is on the building list

[oak hatch]

even better rolls than mine but I have ammo and cs

[gaunt pulsar]

there is tools to check, online calcs that calculate your cp/hp/atk based on parameters and blablalink exists, they have calc too, you can add levels and see how much hp/atk your character would have, so even if something works on low sync you could check how much you would have on 400

[charred condor]

Amazing thank you, worked!

[umbral crown]

Just cooking

[oak hatch]

Where do I find this tool on blablalink?

[gaunt pulsar]

nikkepedia

[hollow hamlet]

What I find with attacking is that my Cindy team (with Moran) has Moran get stunned frequently, so putting Rosanne in should help negate the stun. I lose the taunt though.

[wind kelp]

Have to remember when i log in next time 😄

[gaunt pulsar]

being official it's still* can be kinda off, but enough to see difference in scaling of attacker/defender/support https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bcn6cSZOqt_9UcV8162oIF5SezrPybZwRktTe0nh1S8/edit?usp=sharing this one would be more accurate

[oak hatch]

Thx, I checked both characters and Ada did get a huge stat advantage over noise, even if I removed all gear on Ada it wouldn’t have mattered still

[gaunt pulsar]

#pvp-arena message
#pvp-arena message

oh, he deleted, selected wrong message lol

[oak hatch]

Probably have to build noise with attack lines now to fix this

[gaunt pulsar]

keripo way

[haughty mortar]

AYO Your boi moved on to round 2!! 2 wins 1 loss

[noble hatch]

U are right, I just remember, people and even I, use Siren in Moran and Cindy team

[ripe aurora]

What else to build her with.
Except cs, attack and defense

[oak hatch]

I poor on rocks, just roll cs and move on usually

[noble hatch]

So your thought process is right. Meta wise people use Siren, but Rosanna should work. I never test it before, not sure if siren stun or rosanna's burst is the way to go. @hollow hamlet

[ripe aurora]

Me too, me too

[hollow hamlet]

Yeah may build her up to try it out. Could also swap Siren and Moran to see if I can win 3 fights instead of two, but mostly we're both able to win against each other and I want to be able to defend ch 5.

[ripe aurora]

I just checked and I need 6 rl dolls.
Meanwhile I had 10 sg ones just sitting there, no one to put them on.
Rng hates my roster with prejudice.
So it's rocks and dolls

[noble hatch]

However, you must know the concept of cindy team. Cindy is supposed to be the wiper/sweeper, but well, no harm trying ♥ Be the meta setter! not the meta follower! ♥♥♥

[hollow hamlet]

I need six as well, that's just blue dolls. I think I need about 10 purple RL dolls. Got two during the last solo raid, so Cindy and Vesti are in good shape.

[oak hatch]

It be like that, I need 5 blue rl dolls even

[covert lintel]

@swift mango

[hollow hamlet]

Oh yeah, but what happens is the stun and buffs (at least on attack) - I think - cause Cindy wipe to not be much of a wipe.

[covert lintel]

I lost tho

[hollow hamlet]

Are MG units dead? I checked the tier list, looks like the last one that came out was EmmaTU? I have two R and SR MG dolls, one is being saved for Crown if I can eventually pull her, but if it's not common to see units with those dolls anymore, I'd stick it on Rosanna because she desperately needs CP if I want to try her out in different combos

[coarse solstice]

How did 2B lose in this round? @placid bloom

[oak hatch]

They not good in arena unless they can help u cp pad and gain stat advantage over opponent

Mg feed them burst gen and they can die on scarlet skill

Rosanna very good tho so u can start building if u want

[hollow hamlet]

just be careful who I put her against, avoid Scarlet?

[oak hatch]

She might kill herself on scarlet but scarlet also dies often to her

[glad meteor]

2b nuke went to decoy?

[coarse solstice]

Looks that way but it's never happened before

[glad meteor]

[hollow hamlet]

huh, may be worth it...

[glad meteor]

Hax

[noble hatch]

MG is for boss fight

[coarse solstice]

It felt that way lmao

[hollow hamlet]

could also buff Ada's OL gear, and she may be useful against MC though I'm not sure how much she's been tested

[oak hatch]

No crown there gonna be rough

[ripe aurora]

Pvp relevant MG users are Rosa, Soda, Mihara and that's it I think.
Meanwhile in pve you can go nuts with MG with how many good ones there are

[hollow hamlet]

Yeah it's a pain, Nayuta is NOT a substitute for her. There really isn't a great sub for Crown.

[oak hatch]

Nayuta actually works great against mc but losing out on quite a bit of damage without crown

[hollow hamlet]

RapiRH and MMast both have purple dolls. I have EmmaTU and Modernia but they're not units I use except for raids.

[gaunt pulsar]

not the worst on MC, i did crownless with nayuta, all you need is not to lose anyone before he switches phases, behemoth though

[hollow hamlet]

and no Ein either, though I should get her from the NY selector in a few weeks.

Is there a good vid/guide on MC? I suspect I'm handling the slippers wrong.

I'm also pretty underpowered CP wise so that's not helping

[oak hatch]

Yeah I didn’t use crown as main b2 on mc but gonna notice damage dif so he might need lots of cp to make up for it

[ripe aurora]

Isn't Nayutas burst interferes with slippers on Mc?

[oak hatch]

This was my team for it Nayuta crown liter cindy red hood

[gaunt pulsar]

it does, that's why you need to press it before he opens, and maybe hold b3 a little

[gaunt pulsar]

my was rrh/nayuta/cindy/Sdoro/lib

[oak hatch]

Does nayuta hit when in cover? I made sure to break to slipper then come out

[hollow hamlet]

Is slipper elem protected or timed?

[oak hatch]

Also bursted right before the slipper to make sure not to interfere with next slipper

[ripe aurora]

1 hit only.
So if your 1 hit isn't strong enough - it goes immune

[gaunt pulsar]

1 hit only under huge dr/def idk really, but first slipper is the hardest one to destroy, you need huge attack boost on high deficit

subsequent ones alot easier if you destroyed first one

[oak hatch]

Yeah u need high attack boost, i saw u said u usually use rapi as ur b1 but liter will help buff ur attack here against mc to make sure u break the slippers

[hollow hamlet]

Yeah i'm 30?k CP if I use Nayuta/Cindy/RRH/RH/THelm, so pretty deficit

[ripe aurora]

Red hood perfect for first slipper, you keep her b1 till phase 2 and on the first slipper you go rh b1-Nayuta/crown b2-rh b3

[oak hatch]

Idk if that will cut it without liter ngl it didn’t work for me even with a well built Cindy

But maybe helm can one shot the slippers

[hollow hamlet]

Yeah and Liter loses a lot of CP, which is why I use RRH as b1, at least until I can get Siren torso gear and get her CP up. Helm's b3 skill is 7 so I could get that to 10...

[gaunt pulsar]

helm probably wont, rh buffing herself with her own b1 though might

[oak hatch]

Ye but u can use that at most once so it’s hard

[umbral belfry]

@dense kindle

[gaunt pulsar]

you need it once, he loses a layer of damage reduction each time slipper dies, so after first one it becomes easier

[hollow hamlet]

no rush, I just got to MC yesterday.

[ripe aurora]

It's 25 DR per slipper Iirc

[oak hatch]

I tried it with rh and it doesn’t really make the next slippers any easier

[ripe aurora]

Or 20

Phase 2 is pain.
But if you get to phase 2 with Mc being under 190 lines of health you only need to break 2 slippers out of 4 to kill.
Cindy will do the job

[oak hatch]

Can prob clear around 300-320k with a solid team, did mine at 316k

[gaunt pulsar]

i've used Sdoro laser shot for first slipper under her own burst for first one, cause she gets high attack boost, subsequent ones i could destroy with either lib basic or again Sdoro laser shots even when they wasn't the ones who bursted, it just needed to be under full burst time

[hollow hamlet]

May try later, I should be leveling a few more times during this event with all the core dust boxes, and I get t9m selector armor next week so can buff Siren/Nayuta/THelm.

[gaunt pulsar]

slipper might be not even the main problem there, it's cindy ele lines that matter for 300k clears

[hollow hamlet]

I want to get Siren to be my primary b1 anyway, prefer rrh as b3

[hollow hamlet]

53%

[gaunt pulsar]

thats decent

[ripe aurora]

It's alright, 80+ is good, 50-80 is basically good enough

100+ is biblically accurate Cindy

[oak hatch]

Ye sdoro very good against the slippers, my friend sdoro outdamaged his Cindy cuz Cindy doesn’t cut it for the slippers so he focused on sdoro+helm burst

[gaunt pulsar]

my dmg at the end lib is the insane one i would say, she bursted once there

[oak hatch]

However my cindy did enough to one shot the slippers under liter buff

[oak hatch]

ye lib is op for that

[hollow hamlet]

my lib is 65% elem... noah is 44%

[oak hatch]

I tried her but sadly she wasn’t as well built so the damage difference was very noticeable from other units like rh

But she still does her job at breaking slippers even without being built lol

[hollow hamlet]

maybe I'll try lib instead of RH

[oak hatch]

Make sure u have two characters that can break slippers

[gaunt pulsar]

instead of thelm could work, you dont really need helm healing after first phase, nayuta carries solo, and in 1st phase you just hope and pray you dont have too many attack lines that forces MC to shoot one target always

[hollow hamlet]

maybe nayuta/cindy/siren/rrh/rh or lib?

[oak hatch]

oh right u have siren too

[gaunt pulsar]

though my situation might be different, i did low sync clear but cp wasn't as bad, 325k basically, didnt wanted to use liter cause she dropped me below 300k so it was rrh for cp padding

[hollow hamlet]

Got her during GF, a festivus miracle

with the number of normal pulls I make, not sure I will ever get crown unless they rerun her in a year and a half

[oak hatch]

I got most of the pilgrims I needed on the limited banners instead of normal

Normal one dropped me a bunch of miharas instead lol

[hollow hamlet]

Have about 30k gems now but I have a copy each of xmaiden, xdiesel, and xbrid... not sure I want xguillo. Maybe for harem. I've heard extra copies of xbrid are good.

I don't even drop 150 gems on the normal banner anymore

[oak hatch]

Same I stopped after getting treasure helm

[oak hatch]

Maybe xmaiden copies too if u wanna focus on pvp but then again I get packs here and there so the gems come back, may not be that worth for u

[hollow hamlet]

TBH I'm a little bummed at Helm being added to the pity banner, it's a nice advantage to have in PVP and that will be gone

[hollow hamlet]

is xmaiden that good in pvp? I haven't used her a ton yet, tho saw she was highly ranked

[oak hatch]

At least u can practice against harder opponents then and learn how to counter

[gaunt pulsar]

if ftp not worth it to get more copies of those limited characters, brid would be on off burst most of the time also

[hollow hamlet]

I got rank 6 last time, so far at least I'm solidly in 4-6, we'll see what happens when the banner changes. getting 2700 gems is nice.

[oak hatch]

Her burst gen is solid and buffs electric, a good option for scarlet teams or any team u want faster burst gen

1 is good enough tho like like lomarian recommended, save for new anis or something

[hollow hamlet]

could help my cindy team be a bit faster...

I have 720 golden tickets so I'm good for anis.

[oak hatch]

Yeah 1 copy good enough for that, I got mine to mlb to gamble for siren, and I actually got her

[hollow hamlet]

now I just need yet another RL doll lol

[gritty ridge]

This level difference is kinda crazy

[umbral crown]

[hollow hamlet]

@unreal meadow good luck!

[oak hatch]

Barely invested Rosanna against scarlet

[wild hemlock]

[wild hemlock]

Defender SG's vs a non jackal scarlet that has purple Anis P5. Experience may vary with SG vs Scarlet

[radiant coral]

I remember when our bracket was still filled with level 200s

[oak hatch]

Ye no one really runs jackal with scarlet in my bracket

[gaunt pulsar]

[hollow hamlet]

Huh unless I'm missing effects of cubes, putting his team of Sanis/VestiTU/TDrake/Siren/Nayuta into nikke deck doesn't burst, it's just CP and effects like Siren's stun...

[wild hemlock]

I still do but I think the more meta setup is to not run jackal with scarlet yeah. I like my RH/Scarlet/Jackal team too much to ditch it yet

[oak hatch]

Should burst maybe just slow af so the top doesn’t show u rl

[hollow hamlet]

does rosanna do anything with siren's stun?

[oak hatch]

Don’t think so

She just gets rid of buffs on opponents team and lands huge dmg on attackers

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-coffin-coffin-dance-funeral-funny-farewell-gif-16737844

Guess my first time yellow over 1 hours in a year.

[glad meteor]

happened to me too

[swift mango]

This was close win. My teams are still shit.

[ripe aurora]

Irreversibly bricked account.
Contact support for full deletion

[wild hemlock]

If they have 21% Vesti they will burst a bit before 4RL

[swift mango]

Double rock day and only 3 rocks

[umbral belfry]

lock in

[swift mango]

It's okay to be bricked.

[umbral belfry]

the positioning on that scar team is no bueno

[swift mango]

[oak hatch]

Fr not mine tho, am defending

[umbral belfry]

🧱

[umbral belfry]

[swift mango]

@umbral crown

Moran solo'ed

This video you could see clearer that Lippy Nuke killed the cover.

Not her normal attacl

[wild hemlock]

[swift mango]

Who is Poop?

[wind kelp]

Rapi's Commander, clearly.

[wild hemlock]

[covert lintel]

You won against zero
I lost against zero

[swift mango]

we gonna zero

[wild hemlock]

Does 2RL mean they burst at 2RL or they reach full charge at 2RL?

[gaunt pulsar]

100% energy at 2rl, action of bursting happens slightly later

[swift mango]

The later.

[wild hemlock]

Ah ok

[gritty ridge]

Theres some

[lusty crypt]

Guys, Are those teams good for PvP (both defense and offense)?

Full roster besides the ones equipped btw (Everything past Tia isn't properly built, sadly)

Helm is full Treasure btw

[umbral crown]

[lusty crypt]

The exception is DKW as he's midly built skill wise

[shell hazel]

power of friendship go!

[shell hazel]

ye

[marble saddle]

Surface content BETA will End on <t:1766473200:F> or <t:1766473200:R>

[shell hazel]

[onyx scaffold]

am I cooked by this guy again?

[swift mango]

Well, you should have higher chance

[onyx scaffold]

lib sucks

[swift mango]

well, it's unbuffed lib vs moran+Nero

[placid bloom]

Helm buff

[swift mango]

there is helm yeah. but not enough

my libby barely won against bay+moran 30-40 level below with helm buff

[onyx scaffold]

i thought she could nuke without buffs

[swift mango]

on non buffed team

[onyx scaffold]

it is why u are the goat

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

Keripo said with his math that Libby max core could be enough to wipe Noise buffed team with max core. But moran+nero is just more tanky

[onyx scaffold]

dont use keripo math to my situation plz

🤡 pvp

[swift mango]

[onyx scaffold]

i run out books

i need to save for anis

[swift mango]

I guess time for me to build Nero doll to max.

next ca it is

[onyx scaffold]

meh

[swift mango]

I mean there is only so much random team I could build without building more units.

The meta is swinging back to Nero team favour when everyone start doing more slow team. Like libby and Ada.

[onyx scaffold]

well

new treasure next month. im waiting

[swift mango]

hmm

I need that Elegg treasure upgraded asap so I may save

but if nothing else good I would go for nero.

with the rest

[glad meteor]

Lib couldn’t even kill rapu?

How much ele on lib

[swift mango]

777 probably not enough ele lol

[lone sequoia]

yeah, delete lib

[glad meteor]

Nesso

[swift mango]

Rumani MVP, but I don't use Rumani this season.

[lone sequoia]

hi k

[glad meteor]

Hi

[lone sequoia]

all good?

[glad meteor]

Yep

[swift mango]

All green.

[glad meteor]

what about you

[swift mango]

Now you are left hanging.

[lone sequoia]

still alive, i think

depends on the next event or ff

[cunning crown]

trust the plan and keep believing

[glad meteor]

Yeah, time to see new years event.

[lone sequoia]

should be ssrapi rerun+mini event then 1 or 2 normal event before anis

(?)

no, the pilgrim of the year is right after xmas event...

[wind kelp]

The teams TreasureFab5 took down 😄

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

New cook for the win

@onyx scaffold here s your new cook

[patent sail]

How to build og mast?

[wind kelp]

Honestly, how tight the match count was for me to progress, i think Poli won me 64th 😄

[haughty mortar]

What beats this?

NM

[glad meteor]

[keen vapor]

He realized

[radiant coral]

A lot of things

[umbral crown]

Just go

[onyx scaffold]

wtf

[haughty mortar]

Switched to my 3rd team and won instantly

[keen vapor]

4th wouldn't have got any problem either

[keen vapor]

That team is a no-team

No burst gen
No PVP skills
No power gap

[gaunt pulsar]

send raptures they win

[haughty mortar]

They still crushed my team last day

Time to update my Rookie defense

[keen vapor]

Couldn't have been done 4th

[haughty mortar]

What do you mean?

[keen vapor]

Jackal SBS Blanc can't lose to that

[umbral crown]

Also

[haughty mortar]

Was curious about your previous response about 4th

[gaunt pulsar]

4th team

[haughty mortar]

I mean, it wouldn't have won?

Also my current Defense team

[keen vapor]

That team is your 4th one

[gaunt pulsar]

chime worded it like couldn't have won, but meant "couldnt have lost with that"

[haughty mortar]

Are you saying my 4th team would have lost? edit: OK

Could I get a cook for a new defense team please?

[eager brook]

For Cinderella, after the 4atk 4elemental damage lines, what's better? 4 ammo lines?

[onyx scaffold]

CS required?

[oak hatch]

Think she only needs 2 ammo lines, crit better for the rest

[tribal nebula]

Hello everyone, any idea to beat this two guys ? Teams seem similar ... I tried "Scarlet soda trina Centi Jackal" but non luck .... (Soda died before burst)

[glad meteor]

If your vesti is strong enough

• Jackal blanc vestiTU biscuit helmt

If absolute trio invested as long as p1-3 noah and ele on vesti

• Nayuta helmt eunhwaTU emmaTU vestiTU

Absolute alt btw

[tribal nebula]

Ok i will check my box

Thx 👍

[pure moss]

ez

lost to slow cindy and weird vesti

slow sanis too

[dense kindle]

That's twice I lose qualifier Im washed

[umbral belfry]

back to the mines you go

[dense kindle]

If only there was someone who could teach me the ways...

[umbral belfry]

you let the superior j-name win

[umbral belfry]

yeah if only rail was here

[dense kindle]

Where rail

[umbral belfry]

[dense kindle]

Wait he's not here

[umbral belfry]

may his pvp spirit rest in peace

[dense kindle]

[wild hemlock]

Can't believe Rail is dead

[haughty mortar]

WHOT?! When is the funeral?

[vapid lake]

He finally had enough of maincord nuts asking him for help everyday 24/7

[unreal meadow]

thanks homie. idk if you’re my opponent or just cheering, but I am NOT winning this battle

[glacial hatch]

I need help beating this person on sp arena 💔

[hollow hamlet]

THelm finally got gloves. First roll!

[misty finch]

@spare nimbus bruh

[onyx scaffold]

Atk on Helm is no longer a brick at least

[spare nimbus]

Lol

[hollow hamlet]

Needs more attack

but helm is somehow 11/12 lines which is nuts

[umbral crown]

Have not checked yet but bay has 19, could be 21 with cube, maiden has 19%, rapu has 10%, ein does not have any

@onyx scaffold

[onyx scaffold]

How much cs does Helm want?

Or u just go for 4 lines ?

[oak hatch]

Insane luck get to 8% cs and she’s done

[onyx scaffold]

Wanna finish my bricked Helm

[hollow hamlet]

What do you think I reroll?

maybe just stats on boots?

[oak hatch]

The vest

Get a good third line and then fix from there

[hollow hamlet]

She's at 70k CP now

[dense kindle]

PvP channel will never be the same

[oak hatch]

What sync

Mine is only 73k

O wait actually u can just reroll the % on the boots if u wanna save rocks

Helm doesn’t need to be invested in too much for her lines so better to move on to a dif character

[hollow lagoon]

Help me

[raven plover]

bay 19% wtf

[hollow lagoon]

Helm wants like 11% to ascend half a tier if I recall

Like 3rl to 2.5

[umbral crown]

Helm as much as you can afford

[hollow hamlet]

243

[umbral crown]

21 with cube but forgot to remove tempura from her

[ripe aurora]

@oak hatch You better be building Anchor, just got to Ziz, she needs Anchor for low sync clear too it seems like

Also 1400+ health lines, jeez

[fallow nebula]

Is this a good attack comp

[oak hatch]

maybe next month, too many characters that need more work rn

[raven plover]

21 makes the team 2 RL?

[hollow hamlet]

Yeah I will buy Siren torso armor when the shop resets and want to save rocks for that

[tulip willow]

what team should I use to counter this?

[quick lake]

Noise Noah Cindy Helm Jackal

[tulip willow]

worked tysm

[spiral onyx]

https://youtu.be/2TLzNl-Ror8?si=LmnLKNtq5v_Q4IjC

[hollow lagoon]

i seen people use noah

[leaden canyon]

Noah biscuit vestiTU hood helmT would be better, if the enemy has sg that might kill your p5 then just do noah biscuit vesti hood rumani/centi

[supple plover]

Do you guys have any idea why one person with same score went up but others didn't (i am not angry just asking to clarify confusion)

[hollow lagoon]

over all match wins

[supple plover]

Aw dang it ggs

[crystal flicker]

I thought Rail quitting like me
He's still doing coop tho

[hollow lagoon]

he just dont love us no more

[crystal flicker]

us?

He never answered my PvP Question, saying I can do it myself

[hollow lagoon]

he also thinks i can do it my self but

[crystal flicker]

But he answered yours tho

[hollow lagoon]

i'm incompetant af

nah his favorite is @marble saddle

[hollow hamlet]

You helped me a bunch with team comp fwiw

[hollow lagoon]

i did?

when was that

[hollow hamlet]

Few weeks ago #pvp-arena message

not sure I tried that lineup though Looking now to see whether I should take on ch3... 15.6% deficit against blanc/jackal/vesti team

[hollow lagoon]

For great justice

[rustic sandal]

Mom! They're boolying me!!

[hollow hamlet]

i wish swapping formations was easier

[rustic sandal]

I mean you can just swipe teams around.

[hollow hamlet]

I know but a button would be good QOL

ok for great justice!

[rustic sandal]

Mmm. Ye. Still better than disassembling everything then reassembling them.

Imagine having to smash your Lego house, and then rebuild it to another platform rather than just moving the platforms around.

[hollow hamlet]

welp LUL

[rustic sandal]

I really can't get over how weak my defense team is.

[hollow hamlet]

That Helm OL gear roll added 10k CP to my squad, crazy

[rustic sandal]

I'd love to have some PvP units as respite.

[hollow hamlet]

Do you have any of the meta PVP units?

[rustic sandal]

Please game I beg.

[hollow hamlet]

Vesti TU? Noah?

[rustic sandal]

No Noah.

[hollow hamlet]

This may be a hot take, but maybe put Noah in your wishlist over Mihara BC.

[oak hatch]

Why is bready or bunny milk there? For pve?

[hollow hamlet]

Bunny Milk is fine but I've been told you have to manual her, at least somewhat, and unless you enjoy that she's not all that useful. I even sidelined her in the tower because Alice is there and one is enough.

[rustic sandal]

Ye. Mix of Raid essentials and PvP essentials.

[oak hatch]

Can probably get rid of siren for Noah if u care for pvp and champion arena

[rustic sandal]

Nah. I removed regular Scarlet for Noah instead.

Siren and Crown are too much to pass up.

[hollow hamlet]

Has there been a recent boss where Mihara BC was even meta?

[oak hatch]

Scarlet is like top 2 dps pvp

[rustic sandal]

Well, guess I'll remove her instead.

Looks better.

[hollow hamlet]

Look at it this way, Noah you will use every day because you PVP every day. How often are boss fights where you'd use Mihara?

[oak hatch]

She pretty good for champion arena if yuki cares for it later on

But yeah probably not important rn

[rustic sandal]

Honestly crazy.

Since you want at least 2000 gems every 2 weeks. Solo Raids are once a month, not to mention expensive for a new player.

[rustic sandal]

I don't have that yet.

I can only Cheer for some placeholder accounts.

[hollow hamlet]

My pilgrim WL now are the Scarlets, Crown, Grave, and Rapunzel. I don't have MiharaBC yet... or SW/Isabel/Harran

Raid only units require all the resources of your main squad and you use them once a month, maybe?

[oak hatch]

I think it’s better if u take off the pve units then for now and maximize your chances at pvp units, more gem income from pvp overall

[rustic sandal]

Still want to keep Ein, Siren, SBS and Crown.

Huh. Most PvP units are Tetra. Just realizing it now.

[hollow hamlet]

Siren is multiple use though. Campaign, tower, PVP. Maybe Surface

[oak hatch]

Ein is alright, u already have Cindy so u don’t need her much

[rustic sandal]

Guess fighting Nikke vs Nikke really is entertainment for Mustang.

[oak hatch]

Also Miranda there too

[rustic sandal]

For Treasure. Just in case.

DWife and Maiden cuz I'm one dupe away from 160.

Crazy. Most of my standard pulls are dupes.

[oak hatch]

Have Moran yet?

She’s pretty important

[azure star]

Moran is best girl by far

[rustic sandal]

Nah. Clearly not. I'll remove Bready for her then.

[hollow hamlet]

since we're talking about WL - the Elysions I don't have and aren't on my WL are Guillotine, D, K, Mast, Quiry, and Arcana. Any reason I should have any of them there instead of Besti? (WL has Besti dup, Miranda, Manchor, Delta Thief, and xSoline)

[hollow hamlet]

I just MLB'ed Moran today

[azure star]

Maido Mast?

[hollow hamlet]

If that's a Q for me - no classic Mast. Already have MMast.

[azure star]

Arcana if you have Isabel

[rustic sandal]

Once Maiden appears in mileage shop, I'm wasting my gems in standard, mileage her, and finally leave 160. I've been walled for 20 days now. I would've been out if it by DAY 7.

[hollow hamlet]

No Isabel. Thought about Arcana but co-op raid with an Isabel seems so niche and matchmaking would be a pain

[azure star]

But TUvesti would be prio

[hollow hamlet]

TUVesti helped me clear 30/31/32. Great anti-mob unit.

[rustic sandal]

13 pulls away...

[azure star]

She makes pve volleyball a cheese

[oak hatch]

None of them are good in PvP except mast maybe if u wanna run absolute comp in the future but it requires heavy investments

[hollow hamlet]

and not good in campaign either. I don't mind the free gems from advice and the extra sync levels but I figure they'll come eventually through molds.

[oak hatch]

I have these on mine

[rustic sandal]

Unless they're hit based.

[azure star]

True damage will obliterate them surely

[rustic sandal]

True damage affects hit based enemies?

[azure star]

I dunno I just get vesti kill everything, but I’m not that far in only 34

[oak hatch]

Lucky, mine is 0 lb

[rustic sandal]

I'm stuck in 25-12 and 10-7H.

It's my limit as 160. 30+% deficit.

[azure star]

Ahh fair enough 25-12 seems familiar

That’s a red hood spam burst level right

[oak hatch]

That’s solid, personally id get rid of all pve units but im hard investing in pvp

[gritty ridge]

Hello chat

[gritty ridge]

Thats a scary wishlist, make it better

[oak hatch]

This is what I have on mine overall

Have almost all the pve stuff from pulling on limited banners

[rustic sandal]

Red Hood just feels inadequate.

Maybe because she has no OLs.
Just purple doll.

[gritty ridge]

This is mine

[oak hatch]

we have almost the same list

My tetra needs more dupes badly

[gritty ridge]

Do you also have every other nikke than your Grey ones?

This is all im missing

[azure star]

[gritty ridge]

Why are you missing nikke

[oak hatch]

Cuz they ain’t pvp, won’t help me get champ frame

[gritty ridge]

More nikke=more sync=more recycling room=more CA stats

[oak hatch]

How does more nikke bring me more sync

[hollow hamlet]

Scary how? In all the units I'm missing? Yeah it is. Tetra units I'm missing is just depressing

[azure star]

More sync cap

[gritty ridge]

Yeah thats too much grey it hurts

[gritty ridge]

Your sync cap is tied to your nikke count

Up to mlb

[oak hatch]

Am sync 279 gonna be a long while till I hit sync cap

[hollow hamlet]

anyone you would remove? I don't think Maxwell is as useful as she used to be, Ein is useful for tower though since I need some anti-mob units there.

[gritty ridge]

Why am I getting whaled

[hollow hamlet]

I assume Matis will get the TU versions this year

[azure star]

I get the same but they just like me too much

[oak hatch]

So high cores for sync 270

[gritty ridge]

Maxwell is only for raids, and mana is niche

[oak hatch]

Show the missing nikkes

[hollow hamlet]

For Missilis or everything?

[oak hatch]

All 4 if u want

[azure star]

Woo, Won all my battles like this , gottem with the 4, 5, 2, 3 , 1 comp

[hollow hamlet]

After that it's all limited

[azure star]

Now to get roasted on top 64

[hollow hamlet]

I'm thinking QEQ would be good to get

[oak hatch]

Ye actually looks solid, can swap maxwell for qeq if u want, also maybe consider soda for PvP once u get any of the missing tetras

[hollow hamlet]

I really could use any of the missing tetras. My tower progress has stalled. At least OS Anis is hopefully coming to the rescue.

Though Missilis is far worse

I hate building Alice back up to 10/4/10 when tower is the only place I use her, and my reward for malding it was a third copy of Moran

[oak hatch]

What level u on for tower?

[hollow hamlet]

163 Elysion, 145 Missilis, 142 Tetra, 104 Pilgrim

[oak hatch]

Meanwhile I reset all her skills during anni lol

[hollow hamlet]

So did I!

And Naga who promptly got her skills back for one of the campaign fights

[oak hatch]

Oh I’m pretty close to u

[hollow hamlet]

Missilis tower squad is Tia/Liter/Drake/Trony/Naga, not very strong. 145 is a defense battle and none of them can do mobs.

[oak hatch]

I have this for missilis, idk how good the team is tho

Never tried investing specifically for tower yet tho, it’s mainly my pvp and campaign units carrying

[hollow hamlet]

I know Prydwen ranked Mihara mid for PVP outside of bossing but she has to be better than Trony or Julia

[oak hatch]

Ye maybe she’s mid but she’s better than my stuff with skill level 1 and low cp

[hollow hamlet]

Yup. And good against bosses is useful in tower

[placid bloom]

it's okay all the Missilis B3 kinda ass

[hollow hamlet]

This is a water weak level, I'm tempted to try OG Mihara

and heck throw in N102

or pepper or something

[oak hatch]

Are u in deficit?

[hollow hamlet]

16% CP deficit

meh this is an idle game, sometimes you idle in tower 🙂 Going to be at Tribe 209 for a while

[oak hatch]

Dang I’m still chilling in blue cp

[hollow hamlet]

It got painful fast once I crossed into red

Elysion I have D:KW, MMast, RapiRH, VestiTU, and THelm, that one is pretty easy

[oak hatch]

Ya for me elysion pilgrim and missilis are smooth, just worried for tetra

Literally none of my tetra b3s are invested in

Gonna be red soon

[hollow hamlet]

I have SAnis, who I think was considered good at one point but she may have been powercrept

140 and 145 are buckets of fun

[oak hatch]

Hope my biscuit and blanc can carry me through it

Bro my sanis is the only one there with level 4 skills

Alice has 1/1/1

[gritty ridge]

Chat i may be slacking on tower

[oak hatch]

how many did u even miss

[hollow hamlet]

if PVP was good in PVE I could put in Moran or Rosanna, Biscuit or Nero, SAnis, BSoda... I could have a pretty decent team

[gritty ridge]

Im supposed to be well into the 300's

[oak hatch]

Now ik why u have rouge there

[hollow hamlet]

and useful for some bossing too. Wouldn't use her in campaign but always nice to have a boss unit for co-op

[hexed dragon]

wtf

[oak hatch]

I see, the gem income from tower is too insignificant for u

[placid bloom]

300s on manu is kinda high

my pilgrim still at like 340 or something

[gritty ridge]

300 other than pilgrim

[placid bloom]

and I am a few months older than you

[gritty ridge]

Im comparing to one of my pvp mates who started a week before me

[oak hatch]

I don’t even do manu tower for the gems tbh, only for the ark leaderboard

[gritty ridge]

Manu tower is just so tedious

Normal tower i keep as an emergency gem bank

[oak hatch]

Did someone take over u in the leaderboard

[gritty ridge]

In manu? Ive never had a rank

[oak hatch]

[oak hatch]

lol ur leaderboard slacking just as much as u

[gritty ridge]

Lmao

[oak hatch]

Oh nvm that was manufacture upgrade

[gritty ridge]

[oak hatch]

Global server is a joke

Top 2 only 1 day missed

[hollow hamlet]

Do people know there is a hard mode?

[placid bloom]

what is this bug 19-26

[oak hatch]

Everyone stopped the game for ur leaderboard

[oak hatch]

They should be top 1 then

[hollow hamlet]

I have no idea, his rep squad has level 120 which makes no sense, how do you reach 19 hard with lv 120?

[placid bloom]

what does it say on his actual profile

[oak hatch]

Best nikke player

[hollow hamlet]

Hard 0-0

Tower 30

[oak hatch]

This is global too right im assuming

[hollow hamlet]

NA

[oak hatch]

Woah didn’t expect na to be that dead

When I was on na for 3 months I couldn’t even be first in any leaderboard

[placid bloom]

new player growth can be pretty slow

you can just tell by the ratio of old player to new player on this server chat

[hollow hamlet]

It's a weird server. PVP is a little better

[placid bloom]

Ark ranking range is just small, it's not uncommon for ranking range to only be players that created account less than 24 hour range. And the game's retention rate is not necessarily that good if it's not big event with lots of rolls to flesh out your starting roster

people that don't reroll can easily start an account with 0 SSR

and then quit

[quick lake]

No one in my server is keeping up

Most semi-quit the game alr

[oak hatch]

Ye makes sense, mine was made during summer anis banner so it wasn’t anything special

Everyone left besides like 2 players

Other acc made during sdoro banner was highly competitive

[versed mesa]

I'm day 1, I think there's only like 10 players still actively playing if even that.

[hollow hamlet]

I see a bunch of people dropped in September.

[oak hatch]

10 is a good amount

[versed mesa]

The one who is second in the rankings after me hasn't logged on since October. Always wonder if they just flat out quit or if something happened to them irl

[oak hatch]

The ones still active, they are like sync 700+?

[versed mesa]

No one is, not even me

[placid bloom]

October was RE collab? Maybe had bad luck streak on pulls and finally called it quits

[oak hatch]

was expecting at least a few if they spend, ig 600 then

[quick lake]

Day 1 f2p players should be 661+ now

[versed mesa]

I'm 667, all others are all over the place from mid 350 to 520

[placid bloom]

pull ragequit is reasonable if they have low gem income from SPA already from competitive old server combined with very bad luck streak

and increased banner count

sometimes completing Pokedex is too tiring

[quick lake]

If u always pull 1 copy instead of MLB, u will have alot of gems

[placid bloom]

that's only the case for people that actively PvP though

if you stop PvP for half a year your gem income will disappear

[hollow hamlet]

Also hard to sit on 30k/60k/etc gems and not want to spend them

[oak hatch]

Then u start solo raid investing

[hollow hamlet]

I've decided SR is not worth investing in. Co-op, someone always needs a Siren or Nayuta or MMast or something, so can use a campaign unit.

[onyx scaffold]

350 pulls on diesel + brid

[oak hatch]

I sat on 70k gems and it was like 1 week before the next banner, and I blew it all on standard banner, 0 pilgrims then rage quit

[hollow hamlet]

I spent 100 pulls on Liberalio

[oak hatch]

Man that account was so bad it had only sdoro

[hollow hamlet]

SDoro great for raids but if I had her and the resources, I'd be leveling up anyone else first

[oak hatch]

That’s not bad

Can spend hundreds without a single pilgrim

[oak hatch]

She’s solid for campaign too especially some water weak bosses like black snake

[hollow hamlet]

Unless they give free tickets I'm just going to mileage OS Anis or whatever the new NY unit is

[quick lake]

I had a bad streak this xmas banners

[gritty ridge]

You see some strange teams in CA

[hollow hamlet]

I spent some tickets on xguillo for the harem with no luck. Not going to spend gems.

[oak hatch]

Pull for doll mats

[hollow hamlet]

I need so many dolls and doll mats. I think I have 40 or 50 blue and purple doll mats now.

[oak hatch]

If u have the gems to spare then may be good for u to pull and get those doll mat rewards

I don’t use my mileage tickets unless I have no gems at all

[hollow hamlet]

What doll mat rewards?

[oak hatch]

Maintenance kit, think they give u purple and gold ones depending on how much pulls u spend

[hollow hamlet]

Lemme check, maybe I'm close

[oak hatch]

Nah it’s only for pilgrim banners

Is new anis a pilgrim idk