pvp-arena

[tulip quest]

or High ATK value

Ele is 2nd with rolls for sustain damage math

She is more Needy than rapi

[keen vapor]

Not with Ada, she's guaranteed to get buff

[tulip quest]

Yea I mean the damage

cause top rankers get 6-8b with her team

[keen vapor]

I'm resetting Miranda, Asuka and rei next time

[hollow lagoon]

Ur comps are weird

I dare even say mid

[keen vapor]

Would have used soline if I had one

[hollow lagoon]

Not even about soline

[tulip quest]

I think the only weird comp is 4th

with sbs

[tulip quest]

bro ur not miranda criting?

[hollow lagoon]

I lose 1.3 billion damage Lel

[keen vapor]

No Diesel can't reattempt

I'm on public transport on the way to work

[hollow lagoon]

No deisel use vesti/alice

Synergies with the noir anyway

[tulip quest]

you can use Vesti instead of raven

[keen vapor]

You ain't listening

[tulip quest]

and Raven off burst

[keen vapor]

Neither of you

Never had Raven

[hollow lagoon]

Do it on phone

[tulip quest]

aight publick transport

[keen vapor]

No

[hollow lagoon]

My comps are comfortably runable oh mobile

[tulip quest]

Oh mobile

k Mihara kinda hard to mobile

[keen vapor]

Is always my only option smh PC gamers

[tulip quest]

@hollow lagoon

I still think Mihara has more damage

ur Mihara core 1

[tulip quest]

shud be more damage with same comp

[shell hazel]

I got 16.3 with no miranda or soline or anything

[tulip quest]

yoooo Vesti

[shell hazel]

hell yeah 😄

my emma and eunwha have no build at all

no ol or much in skills or dolls

[tulip quest]

My Vesti also 2b but less damage if i use the team

not properly invested

[shell hazel]

my vesti was good

I just had a bit of cope with that team but it was nice and easy to do the fight at least

[tulip quest]

I have no vesti copies XD

[shell hazel]

I was out of options really at that point

[tulip quest]

you don't have Miranda?

[shell hazel]

I do have not treasured

[tulip quest]

aight

[shell hazel]

you're in the pvp channel remember 😄

[tulip quest]

pretty good tho 16b

[hollow lagoon]

I tried that comp I get 2.9b

[shell hazel]

I barely did that much on my raid units yet compared to where they could be

[tulip quest]

I was pvp main also

[shell hazel]

I spent year 1 on pvp + campaign

[tulip quest]

hmmmm difference in investments Maybe?

[hollow lagoon]

Miranda comp is a myth

[shell hazel]

year 2 which is 2026 I will do more pve

[tulip quest]

Miranda comp is the most common ABUSE EVER XD

[hollow lagoon]

It’s the weird shit top players trying to copium

[shell hazel]

do note that zanta is 🐋 lots of max cores

[tulip quest]

Bro im not top player but it works for me also

Mihara no atk line?

[hollow lagoon]

I just make logical PoE player type of decisions

[hollow lagoon]

3

[tulip quest]

My Ada has NO ATK line so easy give

[tulip quest]

then can why not

[hollow lagoon]

Cuz I lose damage

[shell hazel]

I feel like we have this debate a lot as well zanta

[hollow lagoon]

Why are you trying to convince me to try something I already tried

[tulip quest]

hmmmmm aight then I still don't get it but aight

[shell hazel]

you like run this and I'm like I don't I lose dmg 😄

sometimes diff investments and comps just work diff

[tulip quest]

I just feel like u can 5b or something cause of ur core n nayuta n stuff more JACKED

[tulip quest]

yEA Player choices I guess

[hollow lagoon]

Not really

[shell hazel]

I mock stuff to see what works

some of zanta comps just don't work for me

sometimes they do

I follow the numbers like a tracking hound

[tulip quest]

oh right

you use cp right?

[keen vapor]

[tulip quest]

Do you Cover in Mihara burst?

[hollow lagoon]

yes

i also made sure mihara was critting

[tulip quest]

aight u win man

[hollow lagoon]

i ran this comp 3 times dude

[tulip quest]

I still don't understand tho how this happens

[shell hazel]

Echo!

[hollow lagoon]

stop thinking and accept noir superiority

[tulip quest]

XD

[keen vapor]

Me and zantarah are failing

[keen vapor]

Sorry I reset

[shell hazel]

zanta just fails but wins anyway 🐋

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/doro-punch-in-the-face-punch-nikke-gif-2231079822990565475

[shell hazel]

can we start a coalition to bring back Rail?

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

On new year, let him rest

[tulip quest]

HE DID Said he was just busy right?

[shell hazel]

is he coming back in new year?

[hollow lagoon]

rail got jailed by @umbral belfry and is now a slave

[shell hazel]

if he is then I'm happy

[hollow lagoon]

it appears he just dissapeared

[tulip quest]

Maybe u guys keep asking for cooks or something he is burnt out?

[hollow lagoon]

bro, imagine, me spending a cdr fire b1, which locks me out of running my powerful wind duo for neutral, and end up having like a comp that buffs like 1 single unit, instead of a comp that buffs every unit .

i entertained the idea and tried it and i was not amused

[shell hazel]

not I I've not been attacked since the last shuffle

since booba whale left

[hollow lagoon]

thous materials on miranda could been spent on brid

thous material on rosana could been spent on volume/noir

[tulip quest]

You do know that some peeps does 6b-8b with that comp right?

[hollow lagoon]

i know

i also know i'm the first person on the planet advocating ninja delta

[tulip quest]

I didn't even build Rossana hahahaha

so Niche

[hollow lagoon]

ill reset her again so it seems

i feel ill make better decisions than the top players

if i have their account

[tulip quest]

If just a dream tho can't be top without both wallet n skills

about 99% wallet tho

[hollow lagoon]

i made a sync 270 do 10bil this raid

[tulip quest]

f2p can't really compete max core vs top rankers

not to mention buying ROCK BOXES

[shell hazel]

my goal atm is 0.5%

[tulip quest]

insane

[tulip quest]

Nice goal

me too I can't hold 1%

[shell hazel]

me only dolphin though

[tulip quest]

that's pretty good

[tulip quest]

My other guildmates f2p also 20b

[shell hazel]

think f2p can do fine just need a bit more luck on pulls to get at least a copy of all the core units

[tulip quest]

that's the HARDEST PART

[hollow lagoon]

my goal is 0.7

[shell hazel]

I've had long dry spells of poor pulling luck even though I buy some tickets in the packs

[tulip quest]

LUCK

[shell hazel]

well buying more reduces luck needed

which is what they want you to do ofc 😛

[hollow lagoon]

i say 0.7, but as long as i did 3% i'm good

[tulip quest]

Gotta pay the workers tho can't help it

[tulip quest]

you mald to become bald for 300 more gems or live a normal life

it all comes down to that

[shell hazel]

well I like a bit of a challenge haha

but it will get easier with more investments done

[tulip quest]

Once a month Raid but only 300 - 200 gems up a rank aaa MALD

[hollow lagoon]

i'm here to hold the line untill @shell hazel beats me next raid

i'm already slippin

[shell hazel]

not gonna happen

[hollow lagoon]

even with my 5d chess tier comps

[tulip quest]

You didn't mention it won't if ur luck so bad with the ROCK ROLL

[hollow lagoon]

oh

in terms of rock roll

its taarn then hippo then many orders of magnitude above then me

[tulip quest]

I Hate RNG

[hollow lagoon]

i'm running a 1 ele diesel

1 ele of 20%

and also 1 ele vesti of 13% which got out done by raven

[tulip quest]

NO Ele diest only 2 OLED

Heck I didn't even run her at all sadge

[hollow lagoon]

[tulip quest]

Raven off burst really good on multi parts

[hollow lagoon]

i didnt do offburst raven tho

[shell hazel]

I don't buy rocks, just sometimes get good or bad luck same as everyone else I guess

[tulip quest]

She does like 400m and my Cindy is 1b

[hollow lagoon]

idk what my raven does

i just know damage was done, and RL make qte eazy

[tulip quest]

Yea I was just saying general luck for every1

[shell hazel]

but big spenders can sometimes buy rock advantage

just imo it's one of the worst value items to buy

[tulip quest]

Raven parts destroyed = sustain damage

[tulip quest]

Yea but so Rich where else to spend moneh

[shell hazel]

savings is better

mortgage

buying random stuff in real life etc

my gacha spend is just budgeted I spend $X per month and I don't typically have spending sprees then

[tulip quest]

this game is their real life I think

[shell hazel]

actually Nikke I haven't had a single time yet where I needed wallet kun to go top up to get something, I just buy my routine stuff and the odd skin atm

[hollow lagoon]

yes anything for my fish waifu

[shell hazel]

tends to give me enough pulls or mileage to get mostly what I want if I don't chase MLB much

[tulip quest]

Value of money differs

from person to person

if you think it's worth go brother

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-crossed-arms-pikachu-eyes-closed-pokemon-gif-15194868

[tulip quest]

https://tenor.com/view/fly-human-fly-float-human-airplane-meme-gif-5277954545468410794

[hollow lagoon]

anything for the fish

[shell hazel]

indeed very true, I make more in interest than I spend in nikke so for me as long as I'm going forwards not back I'm happy

I don't really want to hyper spend either it would make it a bit boring for me, I still got hard mode chapters to beat and such atm 😄

sync up gradually over time just a bit quicker than a f2p would

[hollow lagoon]

not gonna bother sync mats after i 581

[shell hazel]

you can beat all of the current HM chapters by like 581 or 601 I think

[hollow lagoon]

601 prob for the only one fight

581 ill go thru ziz but idk much after

[shell hazel]

new chapters coming soon my up that bar a bit for those

[hollow lagoon]

or

i think ill go through ziz by 581

[shell hazel]

I always want some headroom for the natural level up stuff to work efficiently

if I was at sync cap then it kind of sucks as I couldn't use the materials

[hollow lagoon]

i'm a long long long long long long way from sync cap

[shell hazel]

nah me also I may never actually reach it the rate at which it can increase haha

but there are people at it

[hollow lagoon]

goal is to always have 2 hardmode chapters ahead

[shell hazel]

eventually you'll outpace the new HM chapters I reckon

[hollow lagoon]

but u also know i'm lying

[shell hazel]

will be like nomal now, always doable due to sync

[hollow lagoon]

my real goal is to defeat the gloating union leader

599sync he is

i can beat him when he hit 601 and i hit 581 i think

today reset i can prob make 576 or 577

and he will be 601, but by the time he's 604 ill be 581

and that's good enough

[shell hazel]

the nemesis

[hollow lagoon]

ill prob be able to out dmg him with 20 level diff instead of 30

he keps me inline for now

[shell hazel]

presumably they played longer than you though

[hollow lagoon]

day 3

[shell hazel]

damn lol

you'll catch their sync and pretty quickly over-take em

[swift mango]

I don't drink coffee or tea daily.

[shell hazel]

try drinking coffee and tea together

in the same mug

[placid bloom]

drink orange juice and coffee together

[tulip quest]

Try Milk + Coke

together

[shell hazel]

how did you know I was drinking orange juice?

literally walked into the room with one and there it was, your message!

[tulip quest]

prolly outside ur house

[shell hazel]

might well be

I got Dahlia even though my break team is basically non-existent

So, in conclusion: She's hot and you should get her.```

https://tenor.com/view/the-dahlia-hsr-honkai-star-rail-the-dahlia-hsr-constance-hsr-gif-2763301661767084030

[tulip quest]

https://tenor.com/view/wut-nani-gif-25387499

I out sleep bois

also need to eat KEK

Too much fun talking here

[shell hazel]

bye-bye 🙂

[swift mango]

a s*t, only 4 hour and 50% battery left and I remember I didn't do solo raid

0 rocks today too.

[glad meteor]

[swift mango]

isn't this conclusion the same for almost every single gacha character out there.

[hollow lagoon]

except the ones with guys

he can be hot af but it wont be a reason for me to get lelkekekkeke

since i aint gae yet

[swift mango]

hot Femboy

[hollow lagoon]

nope

[shell hazel]

I like how you added "yet" 😄

[swift mango]

[shell hazel]

like you're expecting to change some time

fish husbando and it's jover?

[hollow lagoon]

on a quantum level, it could already happened, i just dotn know when

[shell hazel]

usually I'll just go for meta over waifu but sometimes waifu wins

[hollow lagoon]

unless i die before it happens in which case idk, but on a quantum level i could also resurrect at some point, unless universe bricks before that happens then yeah that could be truly rip

there's chance you wont ever witness a gae Zant

[shell hazel]

so what you're saying is you're a necromancer wizard maybe?

[swift mango]

what if this girl was a male?

#pvp-arena message

[hollow lagoon]

what i'm saying is non zero chance

[hollow lagoon]

u have to explain to me how that mechanic works

[shell hazel]

I can't say I generally care much for the male characters but again meta sometimes lol

[swift mango]

there is a stick down there.

[shell hazel]

good to have them for the female players sometimes though I don't really mind

[hollow lagoon]

nice you baited me into a time out well played

[shell hazel]

do you think we'll get noir gacha skin to go with blanc one for NY?

[hollow lagoon]

i'm hoping the darker girl gets a skin yes, given she's more raid viable than blanc so it seems

[shell hazel]

more b2's now blanc not really needed unless you need extreme healing

[hollow lagoon]

tried ludmilla 4b, ada 3.9, noir? 4.2 lollolollllolololllollol

redhoodb1 was 4b as well

[shell hazel]

RH b1 is an odd one it definitely doesn't work for every team

I found it was better when my usual b1 wasn't anyone amazing

but didn't work so good with liter as liter atk buff is so good, and you just use it less if you bring a RH

plus her ramp up timing is thrown way off

[umbral crown]

[versed mesa]

After about month and half stuck at Black Snake on Tribe Tower 1160, I am now stuck at Ziz on Tribe Tower 1240 and holy hell does she have a lot of health and damage Probably going to be a few months or more before I start making a dent

[shell hazel]

[hollow lagoon]

this is how the zantarath infection starts

soon this will become a doro dump channel

only rail can save it but he is not present

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/avatar-vanish-the-last-airbender-needed-the-most-gif-14966971

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

the end of the world and he doth verily miss it

[umbral crown]

[versed mesa]

This next SP Arena season is going to be tough, don't think I will getting a top 3 finish, but will have to see.

I activated my main rival and he is seemingly buying upgrade mats since he started leveling synchro faster than me

[umbral crown]

Trust the process

[hollow lagoon]

In place of a Rail you would have me! No wise but cursed and terrible as the Hippo! All shall Doro and despair!

[umbral crown]

Now go wheel stats instead levels

[shell hazel]

Dorospair!

[hollow lagoon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1273933998762229845/1450302759139147908/XnEdSqB.gif

[shell hazel]

damn lol

[shell hazel]

damn stole my doro!

https://tenor.com/view/doro-gif-5568225387860547379

[swift mango]

should I get anchor on new year?

[gritty ridge]

Like, purple anchor?

[placid bloom]

you can select SR?

[umbral belfry]

[swift mango]

[shell hazel]

new year selector event

spend like 5-6k gems on ordinary pull step up thing you get a selector for any non-pilgrim

[placid bloom]

I never checked if you can select SR Nikke

[shell hazel]

oh lol

no - you can't afaik

SSR selector pretty sure it's called

[late tiger]

i would have spent them anyways

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[gritty ridge]

Can I spend 10k and get 2?

[umbral belfry]

you're next

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-hiding-in-the-box-cat-hiding-box-animalsdoingthings-gif-16767392

[sharp lagoon]

@onyx scaffold now we can do what we wanted to do

[onyx scaffold]

get eunhwa then

[sharp lagoon]

don't we have enough b3s?...

[vernal galleon]

whats the best teams I could make for pvp, rn its just the highest cp that im using

[gaunt pulsar]

probably the best you could have, your box is hard to work with because invest in some units are just not there yet
team one - 3 high cp units, 2 low, alice and rapi should hold with just having sr15 dolls, but you are probably behind on the progress inside your group so they would hurt you anyway.
team 2 - just a middle finger to the enemy, those units are better to be spread differently, but it's hard with your box without hurting team power too much.
team 3 - nayuta holds, SG do their job, hopefully

maybe someone else have some ideas, but you really need to invest in to Vesti Tactical upgrade, jackal, biscuit, scarlet an ada wouldn't mind to be better too

[covert lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/ocean-park-roy-chiken-chicken-rooster-gif-15719325597742543552

[vernal galleon]

ah right so basically for the time being, I should copy the teams you sent and focus on upgrading the units you mentioned at the end?

[gaunt pulsar]

pretty much, dont invest into pepper or anis for pvp, just put them into sync device and use for those teams, but really they would be replaced at some point

[gaunt pulsar]

vesti TU pvp meta, jackal too
biscuit is team enabling unit and would drive your cp lower if she is low herself, or unless other units can drive cp up on their own, you dont have all the units to make some good teams with her rn though
scarlet isn't used in pve much outside of raids, but she is good enough on pvp, and ada can be used both in pve and in pvp with vesti/Thelm etc

first and foremost you obviously should focus on campaign in this game so you wouldn't be behind on progress, and progress = more resources/levels, but consider working on unit's i've listed, some skill invest stretegies you can look up on prydwen or nikke.gg, prydwen has pvp skill invest listed separately

[shell hazel]

nope once only

[gritty ridge]

It works

Standard double buff scar

[swift mango]

Bruh I did last minutes rush... Midhara team I didn't even mock before I sent lol... SG team QTE fail and Rapi team Crown died at 10 seconds left. But I did it.

[hollow lagoon]

Neutural lord strikes again

[gritty ridge]

Nayuta p2 is what id reccomend

B.soda nayuta drake noir rosa

[pure moss]

Sacrificing bsoda instead of drake?

Also centi p5 instead of tpoli to make vesti team 2 RL?

[gritty ridge]

Yeah I find drake burst preferable

[gritty ridge]

Vesti is a weird unit, where her speed is deceptive in deck builder

[pure moss]

Ye but centi will guarantee 2 RL for that comp

Tpoli has more survivability but slower

[gritty ridge]

Keep poli

Youre b1 is siren proof

Protects you from sg

If anything id swap poli for a 2nd b1

[swift mango]

Best thing about this solo raid is that I had a reason to OL 2B... Need a reason to OL Asuka too....

[ivory violet]

Make sure to feed her plenty of rocks

[pure moss]

My rapipi and mihara did 5b each so I didn't need to build 2B

[swift mango]

I wanted to build 2B so it just give me a reason to build her, not that she is good or anything.

[pure moss]

Shiftup constantly pumping good fire nikke is less the reason for you to build 2B

Not my c7 2B sitting in the corner

[swift mango]

I skip Winter.

[pure moss]

I mlb both. Took me $400

[swift mango]

I don't have Mordernia

I didn't have time to test a team with Cindy that could work and just use 2B.

[swift mango]

Good for you.

[pure moss]

No no that's bad addiction

[swift mango]

Okay, bad for you then.

[covert lintel]

SU know i'm building her for the next CA

[swift mango]

Do you still have enough to gold tick Idol Anis at least?

[onyx scaffold]

i can buy event attempts now or next week? my brain is not braining rn

[swift mango]

Check if hard mode is unlocked, should be now.

[covert lintel]

No
RNG pranked me

[covert lintel]

It's unlocked now so you can buy it

[onyx scaffold]

yeah i was kinda confused when it said 11 days left

11 days of grinding 1-11
a lot cd

[swift mango]

Skip it like me.

[swift mango]

It normal these days. You actually get less reward from event store so it's even out

[onyx scaffold]

huh

i think i get it, but yeah

[covert lintel]

I wanna try brid in CA later

[onyx scaffold]

she is mid

[swift mango]

Good luck.

[peak halo]

what is this

[onyx scaffold]

this is creepy

[hollow hamlet]

someone is attacking you

[hollow lagoon]

i like how her blood is coffee

[onyx scaffold]

That is my blood

[shell hazel]

@oblique gyro you going for MC at 461?

it's a tricksy beast

[wind kelp]

Brid confirmed Finnish :p

First defense of the new season held, still in third. Hopefully a sign of things to come.

[keen vapor]

Close and open game

[umbral crown]

anyone knows if bay can block libe?

[haughty mortar]

Can I get a dish for CA?

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/gambling-problem-danny-de-vito-gif-15996554

[glad meteor]

Depends if team can kill bay cover before aoe

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

Waos

Is that bay treasuree?

[glad meteor]

Ye

[umbral crown]

I see, its gamba

[umbral crown]

Indeed

[mint kite]

Oh no I apparently qualified for champion arena

[onyx scaffold]

So far only Noise Anchor Helm can block Lib afaik

[umbral crown]

[onyx scaffold]

I dont rmb if there was Helm but I saw Anchor there.
and they had like 10% HP left

[covert lintel]

Done setting up a weird team
Now just praying

[azure star]

Not a PvP question but since there are some gods here, I’m trying to bend the combat power formula to my will, but I’m getting some discrepancies, with some , not all , does anyone know or have an idea why these characters might have under calculated powers compared to game

[quick lake]

there's a formula somewhere

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bcn6cSZOqt_9UcV8162oIF5SezrPybZwRktTe0nh1S8/edit?usp=sharing

[quick lake]

https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/1153578567263846470
More math

[azure star]

Yeah I used that and this I was sent by someone I dunno they discord

[quick lake]

Oh its Altros

Can search him

Might be some rounding differences based on ur sheet

[indigo prawn]

Guys, what's the best pvp team after brid n diesel drop?

[quick lake]

no difference to pvp teams. Check pins

[azure star]

I get some variation on the atk, def and hp from core , but the combat power is way out on some but not the atk, def and hp and it only effect some not all

Like 1-2 , but 6000 on mermaid

[indigo prawn]

Kk thanks

[quick lake]

Im also not too sure. Can reference the sheet I sent. Might be recycling stats or somthing

[azure star]

Yeah I’ll take a peek, it might be how Im pulling in the data too, thanks

[zealous gyro]

can someone help me make the 2nd and 3rd sp arena team please?

[quick lake]

Nayuta Lib Drake Liter xMaiden
Auto

[zealous gyro]

okay thank you ❤️

[gaunt pulsar]

you probably undercalculate something like OL lines/skills/dolls your base stats are all matching already which is good but to find why cp is under calculated you probably need to start process of elimination and find what so different about this characters compared to others, and if for example:

1. no OL lines character matches your calcs,
2. skill level 1 or 10 character matches
3. doll or no doll matches

what I see from a glance on this list is that characters that have discrepancies are all either pilgrim or overspec, maybe has to do something with that? what if some part of formula is different for them? like maybe the ol bonus is higher? idk really, but it do be suspicious

[rancid urchin]

Hey guys i have a question has anyone used Nayuta in arena ? I think she is bugged because before the reset her indomitability used to trigger but now she dies in the 5th second of the fight

[ivory violet]

Are you playing against a unit that's cleansing her indom? Rosanna can do that

[rancid urchin]

damn i had no idea yeah i was against a Rosanna but i did not know

[nimble swan]

that cover still had some hp left when libe nuke came...
so it's either wrongly displayed or bay+ is bugged

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

Not at all

Bay is worse in CA now.

[gaunt pulsar]

hard to see behind the numbers but her actual hit happens pretty late after animation of wave crushing, and she was able to shoot once under her full buff with 160% attack, she starts to eat hp/cover pretty fast after that, pretty sure on 5th second of video where cover got dropped to like 30%hp was frame after her basic shot, and 5 additional will follow

[swift mango]

You can kill bay over the cover too.

[gaunt pulsar]

that's also was rh buffed lib no wonder there no cover left when her basic happens before her burst hit

[nimble swan]

but who damaged that cover? no one could be shooting at p3 in that setup, except scar counters. And scar was already dead when cover hp started to drop

[nimble swan]

why would lib target p3 with basic attacks?

[gaunt pulsar]

she doesn't need to shoot p3 though? bay starts to shares hp after burst, if anyone hit she receives dmg to her cover no? i dont have much knowledge on her but from what i saw she often treats all received dmg as her covers, unless her burst happens right before burst hit and there not enough time to recieve dmg

not all, but portion of dmg that got split i guess would be more correct to say*

[nimble swan]

Probably the most cringe wording of any skills in the game, but i read it again. So after burst activation cover also shares damage, and any kind of other nikkes (or their covers) share hp with bay's cover. And it's like when cover is killed damage can't overflow to nikkes, hence blocking nukes. Now in current situation bay team was bursting too early, got cover destroyed just before Lib burst landed. That's what happened behind the scenes, but it doesn't get really reflected in what we see during gameplay.

[gaunt pulsar]

it's pretty tight timing there,

1. bay/helm/moran cover before libe basic shot
2. libe basic shot = minus what 40%-50%? cover hp just from her 69% buffed multi? just because moran got shot, number to cover is 1 mil
3. time passes, libe burst didnt happened yet but we can see is more 200/500k shots happen to covers because libe additional shots of 40% per shot start to happen, and then match ends on libe burst finally hitting

wish we could see what happens behind the numbers, but pretty sure she had enough buffs to just decimate bay cover on her own 🫡

with scarlet matches you wouldn't see it because she is too fast and team doesn't have enough time to deal dmg, so she gets blocked

[nimble swan]

Yeah i'm sure now, after reading skills again that somehow they destroyed that cover before burst. It's just I'm thinking something might have changed about this damage sharing for treasure version, because I was using pre-treasure Bay quite a lot in CA, and won basically all matches against 3RL Cindy's. Hard to imagine they are not destroying the cover before Cindy burst, and also the sequential attacks?? Questionable how it worked on this damage sharing

Also pre-treasure it wasn't even described properly in skills

[gaunt pulsar]

yeah, not sure about all the situations myself, i have only data posted here pretty much, no one uses normal or treasure bay in my arena yet, and i have only pre-treasure bay myself

[nimble swan]

Yeah my (rookie) arena is full of cp pad and campaign teams. Or people just showing in their strongest nikkes thinking that's a good idea. Hard to test anything.
In SPA C2 I'm sure has Bay but doesn't use it in defense.. but what I saw of other peoples' videos, Lib team often kills Bay team, even if it seems they burst in time.

[gaunt pulsar]

yea haven't seen libe blocked by bay yet too, maybe only once 🫡 dont remember

also wonder what happens with dmg when bay+jackal is present vs lib, seen it here once, but couldn't understand how dmg share works in that situation at all if even correctly to begin with because one shares hp of 3 units and another one shares hp of whole team

[worthy knoll]

Lib burst differs in interaction with "damage share" units.. let see if you can find a link Jackal and Biscuit team with some attacker (well any other link, doesn't need to be attacker), compare it nuking with Lib vs nuking with Scarlet so you can see the difference 🤔

The object of observation is on Jackal

[nimble swan]

That's a gargantuan task to code properly for SU interns
I don't really know how it works and if it even works as intended.

[nimble swan]

Well, what i've seen is that Biscuit and other units all died from lib burst. With Scarlet if anyone survived it was usually jackal. Like she dies as the last unit from the link? For example it was often jackal who got the blanc indom if the link was sniped and killed by enemy Helm. But i would need to test all these scenarios and i would likely understand what happens.
Currently what I just see from the outside it seems lib doesn't care much about links and Biscuit, just destroys everyone. Only Noah bursting in time is reliable against Lib

[worthy knoll]

Was the Biscuit linked? You'll notice the difference on the damage numbers

Between the linked Biscuit and the linked defenders vs the unlinked units

On how they are displayed

[inner sonnet]

Hello everyone, this is my entire Nikke roster. Could anyone kindly suggest the three most optimal PvP team compositions for me? I would like to focus my resources on PvP, but I’m not sure how to properly combine Nikke units and their synergies.

[nimble swan]

Hard to find a Biscuit with high enough ATK to be linked.
I can imagine Jackal link adds another multiplier to the damage for the linked units (be it positive or negative), that propagates through to the defenders.
Would be nice to see. If I can find a Lib who would nuke then i will assemble a Jackal linked Biscuit to see.

[quick lake]

Trina invest to 4/10/4
Rumani 4/4/4
Vesti 7/10/10, good mix of atk/ele/cs/ammo OLs

xMaiden and LaplaceT are good to have/invest

VestiTU is best pvp unit, so good to invest

Always good to have SR0 or SR5 on all pvp units if u can. Minimally 4/4/4 4OL on all pvp units

Check pins for a full list of pvp teams. You can see what are the commonly used pvp units

[hollow lagoon]

Locked my cursed team for ca

[quick lake]

Another season, another ca

[hollow lagoon]

The origional cursed teams

Not the adapted hippo version

[shell hazel]

[swift mango]

What's CA?

[swift mango]

My Biscuit used to be linked with 40% ATK but I had to roll off her ATK

Because of HelmT and Drake sniping her.

[nimble swan]

Like a lightning rod, lol

[covert lintel]

When will you be the champion again

[misty finch]

How do you counter defensive rosanna?

And does this win? jackal is linked w/ rap and vesti

[keen vapor]

Burst faster/use defender

[keen vapor]

You need to burst faster here

Swap noise for Rumani

[swift mango]

Maybe after I get my Emi to 25% in 10 years. 🤏

[quick lake]

[swift mango]

This is the first time in 2 weeks I didn't log it at 90+%.

[glad meteor]

It’s still 2rl with noise, rosa b1 and scar autos can kill noah, but doesn’t look like enemy is 2rl. Too lazy to check. Looks 2.5-3

P3 rosa is weird. she could hit noise. Which technically good

1 attacker + p3 ros

[lime nebula]

Is there anyone that I can DM to help me in special arena team building? I can share my blablalink.

[umbral crown]

Something you won x4

[swift mango]

I don't remember it happened.

[marble saddle]

Surface content BETA will End on <t:1766473200:F> or <t:1766473200:R>

[haughty mortar]

Kindly requesting CA team assistance #pvp-arena message

[umbral crown]

[worn ridge]

Noah/ biscuit/rapu/helm/maiden(against rossana)
That should work

[warm monolith]

Can somebody help me pls? Only need to win with 2 teams,its enough

[swift mango]

So 3 more rocks

[marble saddle]

4 for Me.

[gaunt pulsar]

do you have lib?

[warm monolith]

Yes

[haughty mortar]

Whoa chat ain't that active it seems LOL

Hoping Mr. Ray Tracing will be able to help me out

[gaunt pulsar]

my gut filling to just replace vesti in t3 with lib and place it as jackal/lib/blanc/centi/lapt, lib burst gen there would be almost completely denied because she shoots p5 cindy there, but his team should feed you enough for 2rl, he is pretty slow and you should outlive his rumani/nayuta with correct indom
other two teams i dont really know, but first one seems like easy job for noah+vesti

[inner narwhal]

should i put jackal in p1 in 2RL jackal/scarlet defense teams to avoid little mermaid stuns

[gaunt pulsar]

either jackal in p1 or scarlet with 31-32 ammo

if you want to receive RH buff for example you can put jackal p5 and throw away second b3 at p1, but that's only relevant for attack setups

[inner narwhal]

my scarlet def has more than 32 ammo

[hollow lagoon]

i dont like ur set, most of ur pvp units arnt invested, ur cooked either way

[gaunt pulsar]

no way she doesn't get's stunned then 🫡 only b1 can burst before siren stun unless some giga invest for b2 setup, and even there it's tight

[inner narwhal]

yea i was wondering if id lose anything by not putting her in p1

[gaunt pulsar]

trina buff applies at any position if you wonder

as long as she solo electro AR in team

[inner narwhal]

yep ty

[haughty mortar]

Stop cooking me and cook my roster!

I only literally OLed them without rerolling and got most to SR5 dolls. Working on Trina's doll next to SR15.

[hollow lagoon]

trina to sr15?

for what lel

[warm monolith]

Allright,ill form the teams later,thanks for the teams and advices

[haughty mortar]

No point? I was thinking for a stronger team comp.

[gaunt pulsar]

i wouldn't trust myself but yea, at least threw something your way, 3rd really seems like easy one for lib in what i suggested

[haughty mortar]

No Trina for Scar?

[warm monolith]

I have trina,just low on cp

[hollow lagoon]

@haughty mortar

shiet

did i use maiden twice?

[haughty mortar]

What the actual deck was that?

[hollow lagoon]

u ask me to make cook and now u complain?

[haughty mortar]

No no

[hollow lagoon]

[haughty mortar]

You deleted something

[hollow lagoon]

u ungrateful lilitttledoro

[haughty mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/dorothy-nikke-doro-gif-7509545823082567005

[hollow lagoon]

slap quantim on maiden for team 1 to reach 2 ril

[haughty mortar]

Ada utterly uninvested

[hollow lagoon]

there for helm to get life steal

make sure ur emma is weak and no gear no cube so she die fast fast

[haughty mortar]

EmmaTU also not invested

How come?

[hollow lagoon]

She die and rosana trigger and fun things happen

U might wanna invest into rosana skill 2 a bit

she force taunts everything on entering battle so yeah it will be kek

@placid bloom do u know if rosana's buff strip can be taunted?

[haughty mortar]

Mana also not invested

[placid bloom]

I never tried so Idk

I don't see why it wouldn't be tauntable though

[hollow lagoon]

rosana counter is emma then

ill sucide my emma to your rosana so i can rosana your rosana

[warm monolith]

For t3 jackal/libe/blanc/centi/tlap be good? Over deficit

Also idk how to approach to t1

[hollow lagoon]

with great force

[hollow lagoon]

lib nuke their slow cindy

[hollow lagoon]

salad kill their t1

[warm monolith]

Im not sure if my libe is build btw

[hollow lagoon]

do whatever rosana thing for their t2

[warm monolith]

Ye idk that term

[hollow lagoon]

seafood salad

[gaunt pulsar]

if it's over deficit and if lib is indomed by blanc sure(i hope you know how to check), they feed you 31% energy with 2 smg+rl, but your libe wont produce additional energy because she shoots p5 cindy, though i calced and there should be enough feed to be fast enough, you probably would still trigger their rumani and nayuta as they gonna stay alive, but even if you do, nayuta not gonna immediatly kill your team and you outlast them with indom

[hollow lagoon]

lib nuke it, dead comp

end of story

nayuta rumany might live

but that's all they got

[gaunt pulsar]

they die at 3rl and at 3rl they only 70% energy, so yea i wouldn't worry too much about that match being hard

second bisc proc also prob not gonna happen so rumani dies fast, maybe even before they burst

[warm monolith]

Okay,ill check it if it gives indom

[gaunt pulsar]

just check lib hp being lower than lapt and jackal, that's all you need, their profile is enough to see

you might not even need indom there, just wanna be more safe as libe burst is slow and you already had similar team setup for that match, so probably not gonna be in deficit I assumed, so can adjust for the next time if it's needed or not

[warm monolith]

Yeah,her hp is lower

[gaunt pulsar]

[haughty mortar]

I also do not have Cindy. Using Ein instead

[serene oar]

I'm struggling against this team in rookie arena. Any obvious counters to this?

[warm monolith]

So to be clear,t1 noah/biscuit/cindy/thelm/rumani
T3 jackal/libe/blanc/centi/tlap,right?@gaunt pulsar

Dang t1 is in deficit:(

[gaunt pulsar]

t1 you didnt changed, and i would probably would go with what Zant suggested

i guess his seafood would be moran/noah/thelm/ada/maidenIR? as we use lib in another team, but you can ask him dont really know how he would adjust it

[warm monolith]

@hollow lagoon

I still dont understand whats "seafood" is and why its used as a pvp term

[sharp lagoon]

@onyx scaffold aaaaa heeeeeelp

Where do I form the squad?

[radiant coral]

You’re not part of it

Check your mail. It should tell you your placement for your SPA

[gaunt pulsar]

he either under sync of 200 or not enough nikke in sync device 🫡

[radiant coral]

That is also true

He didn’t make it into his bot arena for the free win

Missed opportunity 😔

[wind fiber]

Hello, could anyone tell me what the icons on the bottom left mean in Nikke Deck?

[gaunt pulsar]

you mean left?

[wind fiber]

Oh yes sorry

[gaunt pulsar]

book is skill level 10, if you press it you gonna add charge speed on top, for Mana you can for example select different skill levels, not for helm though
and ⚡ - is charge speed icon

[wind fiber]

Goddamn ofcourse my blind ass doesn't click the information Icon. I appreciate your help

[gaunt pulsar]

how much cp do you get anyway if you add all of this together moran/noah/thelm/ada/maidenIR? in deficit?

[warm monolith]

Uh,i need at least around 840k to not be in deficit and with that team im 670k sir

[gaunt pulsar]

🫡 i see
your moran is really low? or just ada and maiden drive it down?

[warm monolith]

All three of em sir

Why did you think only rail helped me lol

[ripe aurora]

We need to cook Jesse
Can please someone help me cook with CA and SPA teams?
For CA got Moran Xmaiden and Rosa recently but haven't come around to building them just slapped some gear and 4/4/4, do i use them, do i drop them?

[gaunt pulsar]

need to think
#questions message is this still pretty much correct or you posted new one more recently?

[warm monolith]

Its still kinda fresh

[hollow lagoon]

Won’t work, just pulls Cindy

[hollow lagoon]

me not rail, rail makes things easy, i make things cursed

[warm monolith]

Im pretty sure we had a talk about a similar thing before bro. But still i understand

[hollow lagoon]

Nope

Don’t recognize you

I know a +6 core bay dude tho

Wonder where he went

[warm monolith]

Im pretty sure he is happy rn with his Bay ofc

[hollow lagoon]

Mad lad prob used bay for solo raid

[gaunt pulsar]

and did bayllions of dmg?

[hollow lagoon]

Bruh under billion damage is like

Sync 200 tier of account

[warm monolith]

How did ya know

It was dropped to 4% btw,this was before raid ended

[hollow lagoon]

A sync 277 do 10billion this raid

[warm monolith]

[hollow lagoon]

So under 1 billion is like impossibru even if bay

[warm monolith]

The last one is 2bil w grave/liter/rh/wasuka/mod

[hollow lagoon]

Don’t compare your self to my rabid insanity of a sync 277, bro is built different, he’s trained by the top dogs of the union to extract every ounce of the damage. He’s the weapon x program, the one ring to full them all

[gritty ridge]

Can you actually do under a bil if you can get to challenge mode

[warm monolith]

I know its not 3% but 277

[warm monolith]

Oh,allright. At least that helps me not regret my choices

[warm monolith]

I need to do an good team,probably rapirh/Bay/biscuit/thelm/mod or som

[versed mesa]

I was only 4.28% by the end. Just can't make proper teams sometimes with small brain

[hollow lagoon]

sorry

he's 274

i made his raid comps and he went and refined it evenmore

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-the-office-sad-face-broken-heart-gif-17974804086126007967

[warm monolith]

And im here tryna find somebody to help me w teams every raid and where are you

[hollow lagoon]

u global?

[warm monolith]

Ye

[gaunt pulsar]

do you have regular soda?

[warm monolith]

Yeah,just not build again

[hollow lagoon]

not seeing bay lovers in my union

[warm monolith]

Have mine

Helping the ones newly started

[gaunt pulsar]

not needed, she wouldn't be under too much pressure
how much is this? for t1

[warm monolith]

Also homies

[hollow lagoon]

i did post my comps here tho

[versed mesa]

I'm synchro level 666 now

[hollow lagoon]

ur 666 and 4%?

[versed mesa]

Yup

[hollow lagoon]

the sync 500+ f2ps in my union are in the 3% range

i think u need to examin comps

tbh, my union leader thought he would make it then he dropped out of 3% then he came to me to get comps lel

but i'm a man of my word, my comps are cursed and evil

[versed mesa]

I'm just bad at making comps

[hollow lagoon]

they are easy to play and have sustain

which is supposedly not the way to play this game but hay

19b is 19b

[warm monolith]

I just closed my pc so i tried to calculate on via blabla,without soda the team is 717k but since my soda isnt on sync(and it doesnt show hoe much cp shed had if she was on) i cant calculate exactly,but looking at her investments id say around 100k most,and itll make it 817k,which still is in deficit

[oak hatch]

That’s what I did with my sg team with nayuta, threw them in uninvested, won a couple matches with it

[hollow lagoon]

@warm monolith salad team is comp2

[umbral belfry]

[warm monolith]

I didnt thought libe was a great burst gen?

[hollow lagoon]

ur likely fighting a 2.5rl so u can use tankier cube on noah

and lib

but u need to take into account of ur helm chargespeed

[hollow lagoon]

you ate my rock again, why u do dis, u already jailed rail

what more do u want from me

also time to spread mis information

rail is a blond girl in orange tight skin suit and likes to go camping with limited gear

[umbral belfry]

Im hungry

[hollow lagoon]

arcana Hime was superior

[umbral belfry]

you're next

[gaunt pulsar]

well you can check other units that would be at similar invest as her and just copy number but probably not gonna work in that setup i'm also worried that your noah not gonna stand against 3 SR long enough before her burst, no idea how yours perform, sbs instead of vesti could work there, as your probably more invested than vesti. but idk
the idea is that we just negate his noah alltogether by using soda at p2, nothing scary gonna hit her and she just gonna get taunted by noah, then we pray that you stun noah+anyone except red hood and cindy clears without any problem
hard with your box to adjust for such cp tried to think about t2 too, but there i have even less knowledge and don't see anything working immediately

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/ash-baby-gif-7280845142657635823

[ripe aurora]

Yeah, my CA is currently heavy backloaded with decent teams being 3-4-5 and 2 fodder teams.
60% of the time works every time.
Was wondering how to (not to) integrate new arrivals in those 3 (units, not teams)

[hollow lagoon]

the new 3 units have no use

in the pvp scene

well except soline

[ripe aurora]

Moran/Xmaiden/Rosanna?
Context is my box

[oak hatch]

Maybe something like this, saw one of the ca winners in our bracket use the Cindy team, seems interesting

[hollow lagoon]

i won ca and my teams are curse

well the season before last season

[warm monolith]

Dw bro,ill just throw in Bay and ill win

[hollow lagoon]

gonna load a even more cursed set

[warm monolith]

Joke aside ill try to do som on my own too,thanks for your helps

[ripe aurora]

t2, i often seen soda in p2, any difference?

[hollow lagoon]

in p2 makes taunter taunt soda so soda stun taunter

[oak hatch]

Ye p2 better so that it can hit Noah and other taunter otherwise it’s rng in other spots, just placed it and forgot to change order

[gaunt pulsar]

my idea is also cs dependent, if yours or enemy helm cs is present - all this stuff gonna play out differently

[ripe aurora]

I seriously need to find the resource where team placements are explained in depth

[hollow lagoon]

eventually

u just "feel it"

[ripe aurora]

Reverse aura farming kek

[hollow lagoon]

the easiest way to learn pvp is to just gem and send stuff u think might work and see how things play out

alas the only way for me to test stuff atm is to CA

[oak hatch]

@ripe aurora tbh 3 good teams already works pretty well in our bracket if u feel the uninvested teams will likely lose, I had one ca where I could of got up to top 4 with 3 invested teams if my link in indom team wasn’t messed up

[ripe aurora]

You got in too, right?
Also for team order, since our bracket still less invested overall, do you think it'll be better that rosanna team (my least invested overall) goes into t1-t2? Since most leave fodder at the end?

[oak hatch]

Yeah I’m in for this one, hopefully I don’t face some mega sync 400 whale like I did in last league battle, and yeah for some reason lots of the players put their strong teams in the front so I put my best ones in the end to pick up the free wins

[hollow lagoon]

let me in ur bracket

[oak hatch]

U gonna bully all of us

[hollow lagoon]

u could win

[ripe aurora]

you'd cp diff us bro

[hollow lagoon]

ca is sync lock 400

[oak hatch]

Nah I wouldn’t even win a single match against u lmao

[hollow lagoon]

what u have no comfidence to win team 1?

[oak hatch]

Our ca bracket doll investments are so bad

[ripe aurora]

our top investmet team are around 3mil now.
Yours probably at 3.5-8 minimum

[hollow lagoon]

i'm 3.5

[oak hatch]

It’s like 2.6

He 5-0 wipe everyone easy

[ripe aurora]

Aymion is around 2.9

Cindoro also hovers at 2.8 iirc

[oak hatch]

Actually? I swear I saw 2.6m

[ripe aurora]

i am at 2.6 from the last one

[hollow lagoon]

3668753

looks like i 3.6 now

[oak hatch]

Nah cindoro was 2.6 too, but aimyon 100-200k higher

[hollow lagoon]

hopefully i can get top 8 again lel

[oak hatch]

@ripe aurora aimyon

[oak hatch]

Don’t need top 8 if u win the whole thing altogether

[hollow lagoon]

my bracket is not THAT easy

i died at 16 last season

[ripe aurora]

Welp, who i saw with 2.9 then? Lemon? Nah

or i am blind

[oak hatch]

U prob remember the 6 as a 9, didn’t see anyone near that besides aimyon

Or maybe it’s someone running campaign teams being that high

[hollow lagoon]

oh boi

my vesti has 25 ammo at base

[ripe aurora]

I think i definitely saw someone at 2.9, in preliminary groups maybe.
But yeah.

[oak hatch]

What is that 4 ammo lines lol

[hollow lagoon]

chargespeed cube would make my vesti 11% chargespeed

[hollow lagoon]

3

[oak hatch]

Bro u have no idea how unlucky i was in the last preliminary group, i faced the ONLY sync 400 in our whole bracket

All their stuff was high investment too, if only they had the brain to use 5 proper teams, they could actually win that ca

[ripe aurora]

I mean i got spanked by Aimyon in the prior CA when he won.
And his path was piss easy except for top8 with Cindoro

So hopefully we'll get decent groups in this one

[oak hatch]

Ik some guys with 2.1m cp who kept getting to top 4

[oak hatch]

I hope so as well and that they put me as far away as possible from cindoro and aimyon lol

[ripe aurora]

Do you think in Scar team it's worth replacing n.anis with laplace non t or anchor for cp?

cos my n.anis 0 investment

440 vs 480 vs 529

[oak hatch]

Nah not worth it it, u want scarlet to burst asap or else she can die before burst in p1

P4 doesn’t gets hit so anis is good in that spot since she uninvested

[hollow lagoon]

Depends

U can 2rl scarlet with feed

[oak hatch]

They probably using this scarlet team or the red hood variant

So not that likely without jackal

[hollow lagoon]

I’m running 3rl scarlet for this season

[oak hatch]

Indom scar?

[hollow lagoon]

No

Emma rosana

Scar

So 3rl of Emma live

God knows what rl if she dies

[oak hatch]

Prob 2 rl as well then if Emma dead

[hollow lagoon]

If she dies within 2 rl that is

[ripe aurora]

Rosanna team @415k
Can i replace someone with S.Anis and S.Doro on that team?

Slow but not cp feed at least

or not worth it?

[hollow lagoon]

My comps are so cursed I might not even make it thru advance

Why would u care about feed in ca

[ripe aurora]

Low investment and a dream

[oak hatch]

This team right?

[ripe aurora]

Yeah

[hollow lagoon]

Why naga?

[ripe aurora]

i have sbs too

though she aint probably fitting anywhere

[oak hatch]

What else can be good there? I saw rail recommend her to be in that sg team before so I thought it was solid

[hollow lagoon]

No

@ripe aurora what’s ur comps again?

[haughty mortar]

So why not work?

[hollow lagoon]

Cuz biscuit keep Blanc and rumani alive

And Cindy very tanky likely not die

[ripe aurora]

Trying to work around this suggestion by Frenzy

[hollow lagoon]

Helm in the vesti is too much

Ur a indom u don’t need 2rl

[oak hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/uhm-meeting2-hmm-meeting-hmm-pepe-pepe-meeting-gif-18064240235739253690

[hollow lagoon]

Send helm into lib nuke to make it go faster

Put something in vesti to make it 2.5

[ripe aurora]

Yeet pepper or xmaiden?

[hollow lagoon]

Pepper most worthless in that one

Can u show me ur box of b2s

[ripe aurora]

All of them, though

[hollow lagoon]

No redhood anywhere?

Mm

[ripe aurora]

Yeah thought of red hood too

emergency b1 as well if noise dies (because noise unloaded)

[oak hatch]

Ye I put pepper there cuz noise in p1 always dead fast for me even with sr doll

[ripe aurora]

What if Noise-Noah-Lib-Pepper-T.Helm?

[hollow lagoon]

Helm have chargespeed?

[oak hatch]

What’s rl for noise Noah lib thelm rh?

[ripe aurora]

and red hood on tvesti team.
Thelm is sad @5 CS

[oak hatch]

Oh u found a team for her already

[hollow lagoon]

What ur mana skill 2investment

[ripe aurora]

Not good. naked doll and 1-1-1

[hollow lagoon]

No good then

[ripe aurora]

2.5 if CS on Noah (mine is @18)

[oak hatch]

Probably just leave on vesti team, could go badly if they have siren against ur jackal

Unless u wanna throw pepper on that team for backup instead of rh

[ripe aurora]

Don't know really, pepper (like almost every sg i have) is barely invested, so i doubt that pepper will really be better there

[hollow lagoon]

@ripe aurora

Mmm

[acoustic light]

@placid bloom r u able to run rumani blanc bis cindy mihara

[hollow lagoon]

Uninvested bay still will prob save ur sg from a nuke

U can keep pepper over pascal

Vesti team is 3 rl but will feed to 2.5 anyway

[ripe aurora]

I still have so many units to overload
And not enough fodder.
At this point burst day should be 3x not 2x and i'll maybe get that first 5/5/5/5 OL unit
by summer

[oak hatch]

Isn’t p1 vesti bad against siren here

His backup b3s are uninvested

[hollow lagoon]

Oh right

Mm

My bracket don’t have enough siren players to matter

[ripe aurora]

I plopped red hood in there, same 3rl

[hollow lagoon]

3rl at what %

[ripe aurora]

but now with attack buff should jackal get stunned

[hollow lagoon]

I fully intend u to feel to 2.5

[ripe aurora]

106

[hollow lagoon]

Hard to see feeding to 2.5

[ripe aurora]

with naked xmaiden it's 125.7

[hollow lagoon]

I know

Because 2.5 rl would be 96+ so easy feed

@ripe aurora

Only need skill 2 level 4 mana

Even if noise die she get ressed

[oak hatch]

That’s 300 iq

Maybe can put red hood on scarlet team instead of soda if u still wanna use her

[ripe aurora]

Just to clarify, i still want to put soda in p2 for scar team, right?

[oak hatch]

Honestly just slap red hood there since ur soda not much invested

[hollow lagoon]

If ur soda not invested she can die from splash dmg

Also soda can die to scarlet counter because mg

[ripe aurora]

I see

[hollow lagoon]

Make sure ur pepper is higher than vesti in terms of hp

Also the reason input Ada on 5 is so if u fight shot gun Ada will take damage and that is shared between vesti and jack

[oak hatch]

Narshal ready to dominate ca now

[hollow lagoon]

Alternate Emma sac

Basically guarantees Rosa and bay not getting touched

But u have less output before burst cuz no noir

Make sure Emma is not invested

And no gear no cube

So she die fast

Emma taunts entire enemy team

Until she dies

[ripe aurora]

Impossible.
Even if i OL her Chest now (which i probably can't because last fodder went into Noah OL today)

[hollow lagoon]

I make it clear it’s the tactical Emma

If u use base Emma u won’t like this comp

[hollow lagoon]

That’s whatever, just stick a health cube on her and prayage

[oak hatch]

Does nayuta instead of bay also work with that sac team

[hollow lagoon]

Yes

But your nayu is on the alternate slow Cindy

Which I don’t like

[oak hatch]

Ye I just made that for narshal since he didn’t have much units

[hollow lagoon]

It’s fine I just prefer the Mihara version a bit more

I have less experience with the nayu version

[oak hatch]

So this is the one I have set for my ca, only Drake Rosanna and nayuta have investment

Do I get rid of soda or noir for Emma

[hollow lagoon]

Nobody proved Emma is superior, most people think it’s gimmicky

But in the case of bay version I feel Emma is better if your bay has no treasure

U need the bay cover alive for nuke denial

[oak hatch]

Oh I see I’ll keep it as it is then, how about the order for my sg comp? Since I have only Drake invested do I keep her on p3 away from damage or p2 so she is likely to burst as b3? @hollow lagoon

[hollow lagoon]

Nayuta has indom so u want noir being dead and protect rest of ur SG

[gaunt pulsar]

imo doesn't matter much if they all uninvested, you praying more on nayuta and rosanna cleaning up

[upper kayak]

Is there a general split you are supposed to use if you have a complete box for sp arena? What about rookie?

[hollow lagoon]

Can also do this if u prefer Drake to burst

[oak hatch]

Soda more important than noir alive? I saw on prydwen soda doesn’t give as big buff as noir

[ripe aurora]

@hollow lagoon , @oak hatch thank you.

[oak hatch]

My drake is treasured

[oak hatch]

Hope we do well

[hollow lagoon]

Preference thing, soda is a aoe burst nuke and she has higher persona salable, noir alive is better of u think ur sg gonna run out of ammo

[ripe aurora]

Pray that Cindoro Aimyon and that SL400 end up in one group as well

[gaunt pulsar]

some like her burst, me not so much, you really would probably deal more dmg to enemy with your rosanna and nayuta while sg is just gonna basic attack clear, whoever bursts gets nayuta and drakeT buffs, personally prefer soda to burst

[hollow lagoon]

Soda does make Nayuta clean easier

[oak hatch]

My sgs has no lines so more ammo may be more important? Also I was leaning towards p5 nayuta instead of 2 cuz if they kill p1 then siren would go on p2 nayuta

[hollow lagoon]

U can just p3 Nayuta

Tis up to u

[oak hatch]

Ye just asking cuz I don’t know much about sg comps in general and why people position it the way they do

[hollow lagoon]

I’m not scare of 1 unit that may or may not appear out of 5 teams

Siren usually gets run on slow Cindy or scarlet

Usually she just dies to rosana

But could be my 2atk rosana is pertty good

[oak hatch]

My Rosanna just 7/7/7 sr doll with no lines so idk if she could kill anything yet

Well guess I’ll find out this ca

[hollow lagoon]

Mine’s 7/9/9

No mats to max

[oak hatch]

Probably more worth it for u to put mats into sr since u top ranker there

[hollow lagoon]

SR? Na I’m in the 1% range

[oak hatch]

Just investing in my pvp units until they strong enough to do what they’re supposed to and then invest into my pve

[hollow lagoon]

How much dmg u did this sr anyway

[oak hatch]

1% is op lol

[oak hatch]

I did like 5m

Still no invested maid duo

[hollow lagoon]

Wot sync are u Lel

[oak hatch]

270

I prob doing less than ur union sync 200 guy

[hollow lagoon]

My union’s 274 is 10b

[oak hatch]

But I’m PvP invest only

[oak hatch]

Double mine

[hollow lagoon]

Yeah he ain’t getting into ca he’s challenger 7

[oak hatch]

Ig u can only choose one or the other mode early into the game

Unless I buy skill mats from shop

I didn’t even invest in my sbs or maid anchor so can’t beat black snake atm

[hollow lagoon]

Which chapter is black snake

[oak hatch]

36

[hollow lagoon]

Yeah he killed it

He’s 38-31 atm

Tbh he don’t need to worry about ca since union has 3 participants

And ca arena resource is union wide

[oak hatch]

Yeah normal if he same sync as me with sbs built

[hollow lagoon]

Tis built indeed

[oak hatch]

What, does some unions require u to be in ca too?

[hollow lagoon]

No

I don’t think so?

[oak hatch]

Oh lol, just thought maybe there’d be unions that require that so everyone can get loads of chips

[hollow lagoon]

No the reward is only from highest participation

[oak hatch]

My union just me and narshal getting the chips

[hollow lagoon]

So for example I get top 16 some guy got top 8 only the top 8 is distributed union wide

[oak hatch]

Ohhhh dang that sucks

[hollow lagoon]

Yeah it’s small stuff

[placid bloom]

I can swap now if you still need

[oak hatch]

Chips are abundant for me now but yeah wouldn’t mind having more

[hollow lagoon]

I’m perma dry

[hollow hamlet]

Does it matter if Siren is in p4 vs p5?

[oak hatch]

good accounts come with rare problems

[acoustic light]

yea

[placid bloom]

it's up

[hollow lagoon]

[placid bloom]

team 2

[acoustic light]

okok also whats ur cs

[placid bloom]

only 5% on Rumani I think, I haven't spent rocks on them

[oak hatch]

Sg can hit siren in p5

[hollow hamlet]

But if I'm attacking/defending, do I want Siren there? Seems better to move to p4?

[hollow lagoon]

My vesti has 16% ele now

[oak hatch]

U can move siren to p4 if u against sg on attack but def siren isn’t really threatening since they can build against it

[azure star]

Just remember any day you can make your opponents spend gems is a victory

[acoustic light]

alright ty

[spiral onyx]

The rewards are very meh and not meaningful

If they were rocks or cube battery chips on the other hand...

[oak hatch]

Maybe one day

[hollow lagoon]

For me who need elemental book and skill mats constantly I could use that

But I get it ca is basically for whales

[gritty ridge]

@hollow lagoon join my CA group

[hollow lagoon]

[spiral onyx]

Reminder that once upon a time rocks existed in the union raid chips shop

[hollow lagoon]

Why u wanna bully new player

[gritty ridge]

Im new player

[hollow lagoon]

Oh wait

Yes let me in ur group

[spiral onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-3-gerald-robotnik-what-they-took-from-us-gif-8123580752379540696

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/here-i-come-gif-12687371314788272279

[hollow lagoon]

Me started at Cindy event

[spiral onyx]

A long long time ago (before UR1)

[hollow lagoon]

[gritty ridge]

Yeah im not even 3mil cp

Im just baby

[oak hatch]

That’s incredibly cheap too

Bigboi would seem normal in my bracket, everyone below 3m cp

[gritty ridge]

Yess

Let me in

[oak hatch]

[gritty ridge]

Wait, am i in your bracket?

[oak hatch]

Am global

[gritty ridge]

Who won last season for you

Why does your profile say NA

[oak hatch]

Oh it does I didn’t even know that

I switched to global server after I bricked my na account

[umbral crown]

[oak hatch]

I had like 70k gems and felt an itch to pull units so I went on the standard banner and literally 0 pilgrims after all that

[gritty ridge]

If you go by normal standards my account has been bricked like 20 times

[oak hatch]

What’s wrong with ur account

[gritty ridge]

Ive dumped at least 200k gems into standard

[oak hatch]

Depends if u got anything good from it

When I bricked mine, my only pilgrim was sdoro so there was no saving it

[gritty ridge]

I ran grave siren rrh mihara mmast for a big chunk of my campaign

[oak hatch]

Seems pretty solid besides the mihara

Actually nvm no burst gen is annoying

[gritty ridge]

It has hella burst gen

[coarse lake]

mihara

[oak hatch]

My low level campaign clears before I got a good team was with normal anis which actually worked pretty well for spamming bursts

[gritty ridge]

She was hot and I was new man

But yeah grave siren and 3 mg is the highest burst gen in game iirc

[coarse lake]

well grave does require you to burst already

[gritty ridge]

Yeah, should've specified after first burst

[oak hatch]

Oh fr? I always relied on snipers or sgs to charge them

[gritty ridge]

Thats a better choice anyway

[oak hatch]

Ye more control over burst meter with snipers and rls

[umbral crown]