pvp-arena

[lone sequoia]

if rosanna is faster than your b1 you can use rapu insted of cindy or use a slow comp with cindy b3

[placid bloom]

my personal quota determined by rolling dice

my dice roll = how many days to slack

[quartz vortex]

any idea why i keep losing this fight?

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit t1 730k against 982k noah/biscuit/vestitu/tlap/rumani 2.5 RL
T3 860K against 931k
Jackal/scar/blanc/thelm/tBay 2.5 RL is it good?

[lone sequoia]

probably DoT cindy or indom/cindy work against the SG comp if you use biscuit

[lone sequoia]

indom+feed?

[gloomy robin]

which team would work better for rookie def? noah-bisc-helm-vestu-jackal or noah-vestu-helm-rhood-centi? Would reach 2rl in both cases. Or both equally bad?

[fallow nebula]

Since sbs is good and liberalio is good, why isnt liberalio sbs super good

[ivory violet]

It can be tough to get that team to be 2rl, plus sbs gets owned by any biscuit indommed defender

[lone sequoia]

you can use a slow cindy comp, something like blanc/x-rapu/biscuit/rumani/cindy or your same team+noise b1 if your b1 is faster than rosanna (noah/noise/helm/biscuit/jackal

wait

i think just cindy team, i don't know how strong your units are

[fickle jetty]

i dont have rumani aaand i think my b1 is also slow than him

[lone sequoia]

show your box to check for dps

[quartz vortex]

when redhood burst as b1 does she still gets libs buff since shes considered all burst?

[lone sequoia]

lib buff?

was something like cs?

[quartz vortex]

yeah

[lone sequoia]

rh count as b3 even if she burst as b1, same for ssrapi, but i think some skills don't work on them

you have to check in shooting range

[lone sequoia]

rosanna oneshot your helm?

if your sanis have dmg you can use her as main b3; same 2RL team

[fickle jetty]

yup

i never use sanis won anymatch

[gilded coyote]

Worth investing in or nah?

[ivory violet]

For PvP? Absolutely

[gritty ridge]

The humble shield

[shell hazel]

besto shieldo @umbral crown

[quartz vortex]

thank you for your service

[gilded coyote]

I will invest one day

unless anis aint the meta

[rustic sandal]

Same team, different positions.

And yet, I win the 126K but lose the 124K.

[quartz vortex]

why they play litter?

[rustic sandal]

Idk.

Idek why I'm losing to them.

I should be dogging them. I lose to raw power cuz cp diff.

[hollow lagoon]

[gritty ridge]

Behold my weakest overloaded unit

[placid bloom]

because the first one's Lib is linked to Jackal so they burst faster. Your Drake and Nayuta are feeding and your team is slow.

second one's Liter is not linked

[loud urchin]

Suggestions?🙏

[rustic sandal]

Any fix?

[placid bloom]

you can change your team comp but if those are your highest CP chars then you will probably lose even more CP trying to use naked PvP meta units

if you even pulled them, that is

early PvP requires luck to pull the right units if you aren't heavy spender

but most likely you have to remove Drake from your team

removing Nayuta will depend on what your other options are

[wild hemlock]

Is the preferred SG comp for CA still Nayuta in P5? I feel like P2 should be better but everyone had it P5 in my bracket

[lone sequoia]

p5 is for rosanna if you use a SG comp, never nayuta

for SG comp p4 is your p5 and rosanna in the real p5

[placid bloom]

it's just gambling

if you want to win mirror on attacker side you put her p5, if you want to win defender side you put p2

just flip coin and decide

[lone sequoia]

if you want to win mirror you have to check atk priority for rosanna dispel

[placid bloom]

well it is luck either way

[shell hazel]

truly the rng arena of all times

[umbral crown]

indeed besto shieldo

[gilded coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/ash-baby-gif-7280845142657635823

[wild hemlock]

Every single player in my CA uses Nayuta P5 including the winner so idk

[radiant storm]

Pvp'ers, is XDiesel good for Pvp?

[hollow lagoon]

I won ca I didn’t use Nayuta p5

[wild hemlock]

[hollow lagoon]

[umbral belfry]

p2 nayu here

but tbh its rng whether you get atk/def sg so

https://tenor.com/view/kolow-gif-22856605

[scarlet tiger]

Good day!
May I know what team comp I can use against this team?

Sadly, I don't have Vesti:TU nor Emma:TU

Thanks a lot in advance.

[hollow hamlet]

More general strategy question. Here I am, sitting kind of comfortably at Challenger 8, and having good luck staying there (thank you @tropic summit and @hollow lagoon) . Everyone above me has higher CP. The obvious bait (at Challenger 6) has nasty squads, his low CP one is Scarlet/Trina/Centi/RH/Jackal, I posted an attack on him the other day which was brutal. The others have squads that have a lot of investment so I'm sitting at a high CP deficit anyway. What's the play, just chill while investing in PVP characters and collect my 2400 gems?

[quick lake]

Focus on pvE

[tropic summit]

you've 2 pick 2 teams out of 3

[gaunt bane]

your cp diff doesnt even matter

[tropic summit]

T1 is on 26% deficit
T3 is probably going to be fine

try it

[hollow hamlet]

Just idling waiting to make up the deficit a bit on 30 boss. Maybe time to retry 13-15 Hard...

[rustic sandal]

So, I'm only losing because one guy has better positioning than the other? Damn...

[umbral belfry]

i'll make u focus on pvp

[tropic summit]

ch4-ch6 reward range is actually one of the best realistically people can aim to, ch1-ch3 is generally reserved to whales or spenders or gemmers.

the answer is staying defensinve and maybe using your attempts slightly before reset as you can still at least trying to poke at them

[quick lake]

I am pvp now

[gaunt bane]

you think positioning is for fun?

[rocky creek]

If Vesti TA is the big meta right now, is it even still worth it to pull on Maiden: Ice Rose?

[gaunt bane]

you could pull xmaiden for burstgen purpose I guess

[rustic sandal]

I do have xMaiden. I got her on my first pull.

[quick lake]

More units always nice. xMaiden is still good

[umbral belfry]

yes in case you wanna make a vesti indom team to include xmaid (good burst gen + good off burst dps)

also a mainstay on ele UR/SR teams for last burst

xmaid is good

[rocky creek]

yeah I was thinking about that comp but I haven't seen anybody using that pair yet. hard to find what people are using with Vesti TA if champion arena is on cooldown

[quick lake]

I still dk whether I should max Emma/Euhnwa

[umbral belfry]

also bc this is her rerun who knows when she'll be back after

big oof if missed

[umbral crown]

2030

[umbral belfry]

[umbral crown]

if we still alive

[rocky creek]

yeah you're right. I'll grab at least one copy and think about MLB. I have Rapi Red hood rerun and Anis overspec to consider

[umbral belfry]

a wise choice

[quick lake]

save for emilia rerun

[umbral crown]

emi gacha skin it is

[umbral belfry]

rerun when

[umbral crown]

[hollow hamlet]

Hmm 1 RL doll, xmaiden vs xdiesel

[tropic summit]

we need to see your box to know what you can run instead of shooting blind

either way, assuming you've everything else besides vestiTU and emmaTU, you could run

T1 skip
T2 indom AoE DPS on 2RL with up to 86% to 2RL (enemy feeds 14% to 2RL)

e.g
jackal rrh laplaceT blanc centi (quantum on jackal, lappy, centi, RRH is assumed lower HP than jackal and laplaceT)

T3 standard anti nuke 2RL, enemy is glass cannon, anything will kill them, the point here is to avoid running a main B3 that can be targetted by rosanna

e.g.
noah biscuit cindy helmT rumani on 2RL (helmt and noah will be hit, helmt can be sacc'ed, noah will be on invulnerability)

Teams above are assumed on NON deficit (you can find out by multiplying enemy teams for 0.846, your teams need to be above those numbers)

[slate falcon]

@tropic summit could i trouble you to build some CA team for me pls?

[slate falcon]

thank you

[trail pond]

this is to help a friend but what are the best sp arena comps they could make with their roster

they primarily wanted 3 def teams and 2 general atk teams since they have less time to completely change their comps every time

[tropic summit]

SP arena def

• poli siren vestiTU anis soline
• nayuta cindy liter helmt noir
• liberalio drake blanc rapunzel laplace

[covert lintel]

Too much react in this channel so i got this

[tropic summit]

as for atk based on invest he can run these, both have resistant p1 at least i guess

he needs to get biscuit, noah, jackal, rumani, trina, scarlet, finish helm treasure and get laplace treasure going

[keen vapor]

Emi

[keen vapor]

Where's

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/emilia-rezero-rambling-silly-gif-12258895905377246546

[radiant storm]

Can Ada with Quantum cube, can get to 2RL with a comp of
Moran, HelmT, Liberario, Ada, Noah @tropic summit

[tropic summit]

it can, you can use nikke-deck to find out

it assumes quantum lvl 7

[vapid lake]

IKU YO, AZX

[tropic summit]

loop x100 times

because it's the only f*ing line she says

[keen vapor]

get out of my head

[tropic summit]

@gritty ridge did you get bready skin yet

[keen vapor]

Dirty....

[marble saddle]

@tropic summit you got a moment?

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/gushing-over-magical-girls-maho-shoujo-magical-girl-surprised-disturbed-gif-13120696653143240502

[marble saddle]

ive checked the new def teams hes made and from the past records the answer to beating all 3 requires biscuit in all 3 teams so i need some fine tuning please

t2 trina spot was biscuit
t3 noise spot was biscuit

[tropic summit]

if you're building teams and you need biscuit in 3 teams, it means you're doing something wrong

your first 2 approaches should always be

noah biscuit archetype
jackal indom archetype (or nuke archetype)

that's because most defense teams are unable to handle both on 3 teams

for example you can see from a mile away that slow cindy is weak to 2RL indom scarlet

the scar glass cannon is directly weak to noah bis cindy helmt rumani, an archetype you should be familiar with by now

[marble saddle]

well i cant use jackal indom on team 1 cause
1 you said dont mirror indom
2 the mihara is basically waiting to die

[tropic summit]

that's not a mirror indom

mirror indom is indom on same speed but with higher ammo or reload speed

you'd be 2RL indom vs 5RL B3-less team

[marble saddle]

so it the speed is different then indom vs indom is ok?

[tropic summit]

the point of indom is trying to outlast you, but if the enemy lacks the damage or the sustain to outlast you, then you're good to go

[marble saddle]

ok lemme then change t1

[marble saddle]

i changed all 3 teams somewhat now

[tropic summit]

of all the B3s...

[marble saddle]

were you talking about drunk scar?

[tropic summit]

T1 wrong
T2 wrong
T3 could work

[quick lake]

[tropic summit]

record T3 🍿

[marble saddle]

wouldnt using ross on t3 mean i atk their helm?

[tropic summit]

watch the speed

[marble saddle]

also t2 speed always confuses me.
ik youve said this before but
3rl burst is ok for 2rl noah?

[tropic summit]

3RL noah?

you're on 2RL to catch enemy nuke on 2RL

[marble saddle]

otherway

[tropic summit]

noah needs to be on same speed as enemy instant nuke to catch it

[marble saddle]

because of jackal their burst gets promoted to 2rl?

[tropic summit]

noah shield covers up to 3RL

(instant nukers)

you cast at 2RL and you cover up to 3RL instant nukes

[marble saddle]

so basically its a 1 RL duration

[tropic summit]

sort of

in general whenever you see a scar-jack team always assume you need 2RL

[marble saddle]

i made a 2RL team previously but then scrapped it cause i thought noah's shield would have expired by then

[quick lake]

3s Noah, covers like 2RL+ difference

[tropic summit]

that's against slow nukers

[marble saddle]

wait does that mean a 2 rl noah shield can tank a 4rl nuke?

[tropic summit]

we already went through this @marble saddle , find my post

[quick lake]

Yeah. should be able to technically

[marble saddle]

yes ik. i keep getting confused about it

[quick lake]

1 RL = 1.2 seconds

Hmm okay. maybe cannot catch 4rl nuke. Timing abit close

[tropic summit]

just keep it simple, 2RL up to 3RL, the cases in which you're bursting at 2RL and you've to worry about catching a nuke on 4RL are very rare

mostly because the enemy team will likely be wiped already

[marble saddle]

@tropic summit oh yeah idk if this matter but just a fyi

[quick lake]

Less CP worries

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-mother-of-god-shades-infinite-woah-gif-4858850

@marble saddle you can take further precautions against their T1 by running siren stun pressure against rumani, it will delay them long enough to even prevent them reaching B1

scarlet blanc rh siren jackal (this assumes scarlet stays linked tho)

[marble saddle]

too late

[tropic summit]

if their midhara is well built maybe you could still die to DoT afterall

we had this happening with Dair before and needed to throw a noise in there

[marble saddle]

their mihara seems to be well built

[tropic summit]

oh it wasn't well built, you lived

MF triple win again

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/perfection-perfect-michael-fassbender-magneto-x-men-first-class-gif-2260686001358167676

[marble saddle]

barely survived isnt well built?

[tropic summit]

i mean even your helmT didn't get killed by rosanna, that's hilarious and sad at the same time

[tropic summit]

yeah you should've lost T1 or at least Dair lost that same matchup against his pvp main opponent

[marble saddle]

oh i didnt even notice that tbh

[tropic summit]

welp, 3-0, your pvp invest is starting to show

[marble saddle]

how bad is miharas dot if 10% hp left isnt well built

[marble saddle]

damn...... i didnt think mihara was that much of a incendiary landmine

[tropic summit]

well ironically her kit would usually suck in arena... up until people figured they can stall with invulnerability

if you can give her time, her DoT damage quickly accumulates into lethal

even more so if you lack sustain

in your case you had sustain and still barely lived, goes to show how she can be interesting

[quick lake]

Needa get more atk% on my Mihara

[keen vapor]

My Mihara has ton of attack empty on ele

[tropic summit]

and empty inside

you gotta fill her with love

[keen vapor]

:Guregure disgusted:

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor it's almost weekend, have you done your surface content this time

[keen vapor]

Haven't done coop even

[rose meadow]

The new Diesel is she clip Rl ?

[tropic summit]

same speed as rapunzel, no

[rose meadow]

Ok thx

[astral turret]

Can I get help building some teams for SP arena? if you need https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?openid=MjkwODAtMjU5MjQyMjc3NTAzNDU5NDQ2NA%3D%3D

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• jackal siren scarlet trina laplaceT
• nayuta centi helmt rh emilia
• noise noah vestiTU biscuit rumani

[astral turret]

is Rosanna still good or is she out of meta now?

[tropic summit]

not only is she good, she's still the only one at her role

won't be out of meta anytime soon

your box is well built with everything, you can run pretty much anything

here a variation with rosanna if you wanna give it a shot

[astral turret]

thank you for help again

[spare nimbus]

How many bullets does vesti want so she can shoot entirety of full burst? 20?

[tropic summit]

x2 ammo is generally enough, x3 is to maximize

17-20 is a good range

[spare nimbus]

I need to reroll my ammo values lol, i have 2 ammo lines but only 15 bullets

And im out of rocks

[tropic summit]

yeah aim for at least lvl 10 OL tier

[spare nimbus]

Huh

[tropic summit]

sauce: https://nikke.gg/overload-equipment/

[spare nimbus]

Oh lmao

I was confused at first

[severe tundra]

Dunno what I'm doing in CA.
Here are my tentative teams.

Suggestions are appreciated. Units after SR Anis have little to no investment.

[glad meteor]

Draket bricks your sanis burst

[severe tundra]

oh damn you're right

I could swap SR Anis with her.

Twice the Anis.

[fickle jetty]

@tropic summit need your help again on this one

[marble saddle]

@tropic summit uhhh...... is this better or worse?

[swift mango]

Vesti? Your Crit line is low value, I would say nothing changed.

[marble saddle]

so change or keep?

[swift mango]

But just reroll attributes then if you wanted for this piece.

[marble saddle]

kk

[swift mango]

Take the new piece if you wanted to stop

And reroll attributes

[swift mango]

If you still wanted Ele or Ammo then keep reroll

[marble saddle]

i already got 2 ele and 2 ammo
my current goal is to get 4 CS and 4 atk now

the 3rd line is what confused me.

i think i should reroll for ammo or ele on that gear since i cant get atk + CS on the rest otherwise

[quick lake]

I wanna skip new year unit to roll my Vesti instead

[swift mango]

New year has been always the strongest campaign and Solo raid DPS of the year. I guess since you already clear campaign it's less a need but still.

[quick lake]

dont wann spend rocks

[swift mango]

Since they are so strong just get them 101010 sr0 and base OL would be better than many of your full rock roll units

[onyx scaffold]

Is this supposed to be a good or bad news

[swift mango]

cs 3 line for total 15% is enough. doesn't need 4.

[agile moss]

Need teams for rookie arena and SP arena

[trail pond]

are these teams ok for sp arena def

[craggy pier]

^Just that Alice team, Alice will get stuck shooting any p1 with indom, liter+ nayuta will feed scarlet/jackal and get counter hit

[marble saddle]

if i can actually get 1 blue cs that is

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit t1 lost t3 won

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-good-morning-morning-gojo-satoru-gif-14293349605449066576

[swift mango]

look at my comment in pin.

4.63+4.92*2=15%.

Could get 13% and put adjutant if you wanted.

[shell hazel]

no gems!

[gritty ridge]

I just spent them

I got x.maid, 2 pilgrims, and rupee

[shell hazel]

what about brid?

[quick lake]

Im broke too

[marble saddle]

man....... having to lvl 7 adjutant is gonna be so listless

[ruby iris]

Is this good positioning? I can't get to 2 RL rip

[marble saddle]

@tropic summit guess what

[marble saddle]

wont your jackal feed take you to 2RL?

[ruby iris]

Hopefully

[marble saddle]

use the deck vs deck feature to check

[ruby iris]

[marble saddle]

put def deck on top and atk deck on bottom

[shell hazel]

in real life? my personal finance guy can't be broke it does not make sense

[swift mango]

If you are day one player, you should get lv7 adjutant by now or close from SR reward.

Also, lv3 adjutant offer the same CS as level 7. The difference are the other stats.

[ruby iris]

The bottom one is mine

Damn jackal chill

[shell hazel]

why are we using xanne and viper?

[ruby iris]

Is it because of siren?

[shell hazel]

who is your anti-nuke for scar?

[marble saddle]

and scar
any weapon thats not RL or SR will give jackal feed

[ruby iris]

These are the scraps left rip

[shell hazel]

so scar nukes you at 2RL and you have zero defence?

ofc you lose lol

[ruby iris]

It's not a final SA team, I'm trying to understand how jackal works so I picked a random team with ARs

[marble saddle]

[ruby iris]

Because everytime I forget who targets who ahahah

[marble saddle]

SMG AR MG RL all atk the left most unit (outside of taunters)
SR and SG (?) atk the right most unit i think

[gaunt bane]

not getting it fr?

[gaunt bane]

I realized that, if you compare the base skin vs this new skin side to side or through overlay, it's the exact same face proportion
so it seems like it's the hair & baggy clothes that make her look really different

[ruby iris]

Would it be a bad idea to have trina-siren-scarlet-b2-burst gen? Like would trina die fast and leave scarlet alone? Should I keep scarlet-siren-trina?

[marble saddle]

depends on the opponent but usually trina doesnt have enough bulk to survive 1-3 dps targeting her

[tropic summit]

wut happened

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/chika-lenny-face-eyebrow-raise-kaguya-sama-love-is-war-gif-16096785

[tropic summit]

ofc it lost, 26% deficit

fix CP before you wanna fight that guy

alternatively try putting biscuit on p4 and a flex unit you can let die in p2, make sure noah is the only defender in p1/p2, that way at least you maximize on biscuit stacks

[worldly axle]

guys, where can i find actual 5 team compositions for champ arena?

[crystal flicker]

Is it CA already?

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-ah-shit-cj-gta-gta-san-andreas-gif-13933485

[crystal flicker]

You don't, CA meta is different than SP, you can run absolute dogshit and made it to high position if you're lucky

In general it'll be
2RL Scarlet
2RL VesTac
2.5RL Stall
4RL Cindy
SG Comp + Rosa
and other funny comp

[worldly axle]

i tried dogshit for a long time already. :D

why Scarlet goes 2RL when 3-4 can be done?

[crystal flicker]

what 3-4? 2RL just to make her kill enemies before burst

[tropic summit]

you can refer to these, in general archetypes are as Rin already mentioned
#pvp-arena message

[worldly axle]

i think i got low info on what RL is.

[tropic summit]

the lower the RL, the faster the team

in general 3RL in CA is equal to loss, you need to be 2RL or 2.5RL via CS% (or sacc)

[worldly axle]

so how does RL calculates?

[tropic summit]

you use this tool or the calculators in the pins
https://nikke-deck.web.app/

[crystal flicker]

I've unlocked a secret message

[worldly axle]

1st time seeing such compositions

[tropic summit]

those are typical chinnit variations

general purpose high win ratio teams

since CA has a very large RNG factor, although, you may not qualify or you may top 4 with the same exact teams but in different orders that play out luckely for you

[crystal flicker]

I don't think I'll change anything this CA tbh

[worldly axle]

i know. but i never qualified outa my group before whatever i did T_T

means i doing it wrong

[tropic summit]

follow the archetypes above and make sure your units are invested

you should at least qualify, generally speaking anyway, unless your bracket is 100% hardcore

[crystal flicker]

sometimes I got matched with top 8 lol

[worldly axle]

i got no emilia and my anne is not invested. whom can i swap em, with?

[crystal flicker]

If you noticed, CA rarely got new face on top 8, because those people invested in PvP properly

[tropic summit]

SG team is easily fixable, poliT, BayT or even just viper phase 2 or naga

[tropic summit]

for scarlet team... gonna probably need to remove soda

scarlet if not on natural 2RL and without jackal is essentially asking to be deleted by most enemy teams

[tropic summit]

slap a pepper and a flex clip SG burst gen tier unit

the flex unit can be any of these based on who you've mostly invested (i assume xmaiden)

[worldly axle]

i often see OG Soda in this one. Why she?

[tropic summit]

stun pressure on 2RL

if the unit that gets stunned is an anti nuke or nuke resistance or core unit for chain, the enemy will lose to instant nuke

it's RNGy anyway, the stun needs to land on the right unit

[worldly axle]

so this will do?

[tropic summit]

use the tool i told you about, you'll realize why that is no good

https://nikke-deck.web.app/

[worldly axle]

what does RL mean here? I still think it's the number of rocket launchers in a team

[fast harness]

How many rockets would be fired in the time it takes to fill up the burst guage

[worldly axle]

thank you good sir. my eyes are finally open. kinda

So this is good.
And this - sucks.

[marble saddle]

no it depends on your opponents teams tbh

[worldly axle]

i kno

[marble saddle]

then it doesnt suck fyi

some teams you opponent might use may be glass cannons so having a slower sustain team would be better

[worldly axle]

there almost no invincible team any can be countered.

[marble saddle]

yes

depends on your pvp investment as well

[worldly axle]

no matter how much do i invest in it, feels like a rusty bucket full of holes xD

[marble saddle]

there is always the ye old reliable method of cp gapping your opponents but that is mostly available to spenders over f2ps

[marble saddle]

Bro either wasnt expecting the CP increase or that hidden Rossana present finally got to him

[worldly axle]

how do this works? and against whom?
generation should be around zero. but sustain is good

[marble saddle]

mihara is acting like a incendiary mine
plus you are getting invul from biscuit on rumani and cindy so they will live long enough for mihara dot to burn your opponents hp
nayuta has 4 sec indom as well so she also is staying around

[marble saddle]

watch the team 1 match up.
if the bottom team didnt have blanc and enough sustain mihara would have killed most of them.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177116972593463316/1446358499717287967/20251205-0430-24.6188119.mp4?ex=6933b1d2&is=69326052&hm=43b21ccc6f8aa03c7d2558f1384e0ca97bcc215844c134294a9c5c0890595078&

[marble saddle]

yknow what he did afterwards?

he beat the rank 1 player and stayed there for maybe 1 hour

[ornate spoke]

whats the CA arena meta teams now after the new pilgrins?

my teams are kinda outdated because last one i forgot to even change it from god knows when 😂

[tropic summit]

maybe he finally got tired of training you

now he made you dangerous, 10/10 plan

[marble saddle]

more like cause rank 1's teams are worse than mine

rank 1 is cp gapping most of us. until today

[wise horizon]

Would these two work or should I resort to Blanc/Emilia/RH/Biscuit/Centi?

[tropic summit]

refer to these archetypes

#pvp-arena message

[marble saddle]

these are the rank 1 SPA player's teams

Sanis in 2025

[worldly axle]

i used her just before :D

What's wrong with SAnis for SG team?

[tropic summit]

s.anis isn't the problem, it's the speed

linked s.anis 2RL indom is actually still fairly strong, just powercrept by vestiTU and attract taunt fix

[worldly axle]

Can i switch rumani with Nero on this one? my Rumani isn't invested.

or other tank maybe?

[ornate spoke]

thanks, i might have forgotten to setup both sodas, but i guess ill just yolo it

[tropic summit]

the problem is the team speed

[tropic summit]

nero has bad speed, rumani is clip RL

[marble saddle]

if you remove rumani for nero you wont have any b1 left
i think noise might work

[ornate spoke]

i always forget to level up her gear and she still with lv0 shit lol

[tropic summit]

fix positioning, you've got jackal links, why let blanc take the dmg when you can get the link distribute damage

example

your matchup against cindy team is fine (once you fixed positioning), your matchup against enemy s.anis has you take ele code in p5 and your link is weak to that code, as long as you know what you doing

[worldly axle]

aiight i just try her this time

Rumani shows as a MOST valuable to this setup. Noise isn't defender.

But she got no OL, nor skills sadly

[crystal flicker]

She does not need any investment for that comp, Biscuit will practically prevent her to die till you're burst

[worldly axle]

oh. aiight, thank you for encoragement

[warm monolith]

So you knew it was a ded try
Allright,ill try to get more cp but im not sure how

Ill try to cook som later

[covert lintel]

Midhara won't be able to die like that

[noble hatch]

alright Gs, whatsuppp, its another start of CA!

[noble hatch]

Yup, its a weird version of the mihara bc and cindy team

[swift mango]

[worldly axle]

I already fixed this. Rumani is there YOLO

[swift mango]

Nah I didn't even start.

[covert lintel]

Rate my cook

[worldly axle]

looks descent

[lone sequoia]

indom+ "old" AoE comp?

no nero, soline or mana?, i think nero/mana is better than makima for DR comps

the rapu pick is in scar team but soline work there

[oak hatch]

Is Ada or maiden better as the first b3?

[quick lake]

T4 kinda weird, wastes helm imo

[lone sequoia]

comp?

[swift mango]

Why Makima p4

[lone sequoia]

xmaiden b3 is a snipe+buff to her normal attacks (atk%) ada... i don't remember what she does

[oak hatch]

Random comp to fill ca spot

[covert lintel]

It's to counter nayuta

[swift mango]

Doesn't make sense, her only purpose is to be p1 or 5. Otherwise, she is useless

[lone sequoia]

yeah, probably ada is better, weapon change for a smal nuke+buff, xmaiden is fine in p5

[covert lintel]

What's your advice?

[covert lintel]

P4 noise then?

[versed mesa]

One of my opponents used both their free tickets and 700 gems to take back their spot from me last night in SP arena

[lone sequoia]

just use anchor there

[covert lintel]

Manchor?
My build still bad

BayT better investment

[lone sequoia]

it is what it is

[lone sequoia]

makima

[oak hatch]

Is positioning fine for this comp? Or noise p1? Rumani p5?

[lone sequoia]

noah/noise at same cs/ammo is not a problem, rumani taunt during full burst probably is, she can eat 1 biscuit S2; cindy p4

[oak hatch]

Noah has way more cs than noise

[lone sequoia]

3RL team, can you b1 before enemy b3 at 2RL?

[oak hatch]

I’ve seen noise died before without enemy even burst yet

At p1

[swift mango]

[lone sequoia]

then good luck, still fine

nayuta counter? she can't kill stall comps

[oak hatch]

So just the rumani swap?

[lone sequoia]

yeah, i mean against SG doesn't change much, against other comps is the taunt prio rumani get over noah/noise and aganist scarlet comps the S2 (scarlet counter) dmg is not enough to trigger biscuit S2 with cindy

[oak hatch]

I see, thanks

[swift mango]

Idk if I would even have 5 mins to build my ca.

[lone sequoia]

imagine being able to play CA

can't do much against the cn mafia in my bracket, they are killing it just like the ccp the oceans

[covert lintel]

I'll build harran next, so i can make all teams screenwipe type

[fair pivot]

Slightly sacrificing RL for more cp doing wonders in my low sync bracket. Everyone who CP gapped me having trouble now.

[keen vapor]

Me when I'm the low synch

[swift mango]

The timing finished when I'm still in the middle of building my team. I'm so cooked.

When you have only 7 minutes to build new CA teams.

Peace

[oak hatch]

There’s a synchro 400 in my synchro 200 bracket

Deciding match vs the synchro 400 guy, I’m on the right, do I win or lose?

[quick lake]

If opponent Vesti is weak, u'll win maybe

[lone sequoia]

lib or helm link?

[oak hatch]

Helm link

[lone sequoia]

if jackal burst you win

[oak hatch]

Lib might get Indom cuz of his vesti?

Or maybe his vesti kills lib right away idk

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel

[shell hazel]

hell yeah 😄

I'm running your cursed comp btw Zanta

mine didn't actually work

[hollow lagoon]

[wild patio]

[swift mango]

I finally lack yellow book.

[vestal wigeon]

Surely that win will last them more than 2 hours

[shell hazel]

you made me do it!

old sidekick of mine

[swift mango]

Gimme more yellow book SU.

[shell hazel]

how is your UR mocks looking? I'm not blowing anything up with my numbers but it should be my first 20+ one

10 / 8 / 6 it looks like

[shell hazel]

fake moran guy

[hollow lagoon]

il feeling a 40b

[shell hazel]

24-25 maybe my end but happy with that 🙂

the phase 1 bosses having more hp is really nice

before I had to hit stuff like the water one a bit because everyone skipped it, now we'd have more damage than we've ever had even if no one touched it but hit the other 4 bosses

[hollow lagoon]

discovered the @nimble swan

[nimble swan]

yup

[shell hazel]

i'm running rapu instead of mana though, my mana sucks

@crystal flicker what group are you in?

[nimble swan]

gg you win

[shell hazel]

haha I dunno I'm running zanta cursed comps

[placid bloom]

perma attacker group

[shell hazel]

I could die even in group 1

yeah it's not ideal, I was 64 once

mind you I don't have a SG team this time

[nimble swan]

which group are you @hollow lagoon ?

[swift mango]

[hollow lagoon]

63

[nimble swan]

i changed my slow cindy last minute to siren version because Nayuta has higher ATK than Mihara

[nimble swan]

gg, you will 5-0 all of them

[hollow lagoon]

your look a bit more rough

also discovered the @cunning crown

revenge of the sith time on Chris

[nimble swan]

Chris is the guy in his SPA? or some CA bracket rival?

[shell hazel]

oh I beat that Chris guy before 😄

was a whaley boy right? 🐳

[hollow lagoon]

chris is his whale in spa ye, same sync as me ish

[shell hazel]

we go in for fun this CA zanta I have no expectations of winning it with this cursed team

my emma even has no OL or doll or anything lol

but she can attract and die? 😄

[hollow lagoon]

lol?

[shell hazel]

oh yeah she's so dead it will be fun to watch

[hollow lagoon]

i take off cube and gear lel

[shell hazel]

haha

[swift mango]

Can someone help me decide?

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-gif-20211479

[nimble swan]

roll again to get the same results again

true story

[hollow lagoon]

i changed order for lulz, not sure if wise

[cunning crown]

At last I meet chris without a differenceof a billion cp

[shell hazel]

I copied your cursed teams without a SG comp, when did you change the cursed comps 😄

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/fun-this-is-where-the-fun-begins-anakin-skywalker-revenge-of-the-sith-star-wars-gif-26313467

[shell hazel]

5-0 easy

[hollow lagoon]

i erm, forgot my comps so i just changed muh order

[shell hazel]

[swift mango]

A bit better and I'm out of rock.

[nimble swan]

OL hell

[hollow lagoon]

i noticed @nimble swan ran my salad

[hollow lagoon]

bottom

[nimble swan]

yeah, actually it was the best option since i couldn't build an SR15 Soda

[shell hazel]

I'm running salad also

moran noah helmt lib ada right?

[nimble swan]

yeah

[shell hazel]

yeah it's on my lineup

I do want to at least SR-5 soda but no doll mats

I want to do Tove for next solo raid I think, hopefully no one power creeps my tove :9

[hollow lagoon]

Ye

Just can’t be bothered to invest soda Lel

[shell hazel]

mine is already base OL and such, not much needed in skills she's pretty cheap

but she's also kind of dead without any doll

[hollow lagoon]

Running redhood saved me against soda scar cuz my scar died but good burst and clean house

[cunning crown]

Damn, all the lads are salad enjoyers

Will join you next time if nero with rapunzel cope lets me down again in this strange new world

[proud bobcat]

Hey guys can someone help me cook teams for pvp

[swift mango]

Guess I would clear hard 34 when I got 4th ele for my Cindy. Too lazy to make do with handicap.

[swift mango]

Me sr15 soda.

[swift mango]

Scarlet+Nayuta+Libby/Anis+RH+Jackal

[quick lake]

Liberalio Drake Naga Jackal
Nayuta RH xMaiden Siren Noise
Auto

[onyx scaffold]

[swift mango]

[umbral crown]

@shell hazel always vs Asia

[quick lake]

Damn, Rosy CP so high

[umbral crown]

Kinda

Could not update the teams so same as last season

[umbral crown]

I wanna be a 4m boi but things happen

[quick lake]

[umbral crown]

To get 200k more would need some black lines snd cores

[swift mango]

[onyx scaffold]

wtf wrong pic

[umbral crown]

Maybe i lose

[onyx scaffold]

Cn server

can i get through group stage

i think i will lose to the sbs guy

[swift mango]

Assuming you are Darling then probably

CN server already has Libby?

[gritty ridge]

Hello chat

[hollow lagoon]

Hallo beeg boi

[onyx scaffold]

yeah. how about this one?

[hollow lagoon]

Look like the 3cp mil invest guy just kill the rest

Unless the cp is not ca cp

[onyx scaffold]

rip my helm will nuke noah

[gritty ridge]

I got her yippee

[covert lintel]

Wow i get matched with strong players from the start
If i win that with strange cook, it will be hilarious

[versed mesa]

Goodluck everyone in CA. If my quick glance at my opponents is accurate, I am looking at yet another 0-3

[atomic wolf]

w speed

antarctica strategy tilt this pdf

do nothing

[tropic summit]

i mean... you're not supposed to win on high deficit

[shell hazel]

you got this! lock in!

https://tenor.com/view/lock-in-locked-in-lock-tf-in-cat-cat-meme-gif-13335816645637017379

[warm monolith]

Yeah lol,still help me plz

[wind kelp]

It's going to be an interesting one, not sure on how v1 and v4 will go, but v3 has same exact teams on 1 and 2, then 3 and 5 are same. Our scarlett teams are head to head too, but i think i'm going to at best go 2-1 as their units are a bit more beefy. Ah well, here's to another round

[onyx scaffold]

"strong players" but your cp the highest

[deep summit]

"Strong players" when you're the strongest player

[late tiger]

this is always a comparison - compared to the people on his server, he can't steamroll them

big bully energy

[radiant coral]

Whale quotes to live by

[lavish lintel]

tfw losing cause collab character

though I guess my CP is also the reason

[onyx scaffold]

nah u lose cuz skill issue

[lavish lintel]

I'm jus throwing stuff at the wall and hoping it sticks

[onyx scaffold]

like most ppl yeah

nikke pvp sucks if u dont spend effort

not like gfl2 pvp. just throwing klukay and u win

[warm monolith]

Switch all the team for Bay and win

[warm monolith]

Ahem,||facts sadly||

[lavish lintel]

Bay team?

[onyx scaffold]

he is joking

[warm monolith]

Nah,just Bay

[onyx scaffold]

u can see his profile and name

[warm monolith]

[lavish lintel]

Most of my pvp in gfl2 is just mechty sniping people while being asleep

[warm monolith]

I didnt had a chance to use klukai in pvp,i dont even touch the pvp anymore:(

[lavish lintel]

yer missing out on cubes then. not to mention since now they moved the ranked pvp into regular pvp now

the 300 cubes & a random skin I mean.

[onyx scaffold]

tbh i dont how u can lose. maybe swap vesti and biscuit slot

[warm monolith]

I need to look at it tbh

[lavish lintel]

Well hopefully it works out

[onyx scaffold]

goat

[gritty ridge]

Can I complain about getting matched with strong players

[covert lintel]

No, they were the previous top 16,top64

[wind kelp]

You'll really like what i have planned. Just finished up Poli SR15 doll, next up getting treasure(easy 3 as well), then just gotta gear up poli and make a team with treasure3 on all; bay, poli, helm,frima, laplace 😄

[onyx scaffold]

so after a guy copied my team and won ca

• 6 more guys copy and keep same order
• 2 more guys copy but change the order
• 3 guys mixing
  I only check from group 33 to 64 tho

[wind kelp]

Although i'm not 100% sure on the order.

[spare nimbus]

Blanc Mihara Cindy Biscuit Rumani ez

[warm monolith]

W but,its better with just Bay. Im loyal

Also @tropic summit what do i run?

[tropic summit]

try noah p1 flex biscuit vestiTU flex 2.5RL, you're on 26% deficit you shouldn't even bother

fix CP then you can try beating him normally, this is just copium

[glad meteor]

Beeg whale sitting out

[cunning crown]

[haughty mortar]

I think it's GG 4 me

[wind kelp]

Is Clay atleast somewhat acceptable as 2nd unit in team?

[wind kelp]

Watch them win anyway, doing the old "i don't care about team 1, other teams win 3, with 1 backup, lower cp means lower opponents" :p To be fair, i'd use iDoll then.

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

@tropic summit I have no break team but I want still. help

[gritty ridge]

Clay new meta

[glad meteor]

All his 5 are skips

[warm monolith]

Im just joking around tbh,you dont have to take my words seriously much. Though,i really like Bay,so i stay loyal

[glad meteor]

he doing charity

[wind kelp]

I still should build Clay, and Nero, so much to do :p

[shell hazel]

you don't build Clay

you develop Clay because reasons

[wind kelp]

"What about upgrading and optimising the ones you have?"

[warm monolith]

I was building clay for tetra team tbh but switched hwr with biscuit

[wind kelp]

"What a prepubescent idea!"
"Preposterous, your highness."

[shell hazel]

you build Clay then she gets a treasure one day you'll be laughing all the way to the bank

[glad meteor]

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit i cant build a team that is 2.5 RL while not being on high deficit

[glad meteor]

I don’t have faith in treasures as much as i did before

[shell hazel]

most suck tbh

[glad meteor]

Helmt was too good to us

[shell hazel]

helm one was amazing

lapT and Drake ones pretty decent

tove good

[glad meteor]

Sorta

[shell hazel]

I think they should just upgrade older units though, this treasure/sr-15 requirement is expensive

and we lack doll mats to build everyone for a long while, especially if you also pvp

[glad meteor]

Give one consumable to max sr doll each month

[covert lintel]

No, lapT speed is faster now according to nikke deck

[glad meteor]

Because her s2 affects cover now

[warm monolith]

Bay heal but not self

[shell hazel]

I'd love a monthly (or maybe every 2 week thing) that lets us move better towards doll or overload gains

take some RNG out of the system whilst still leaving the old systems mostly there

[glad meteor]

I’m still refreshing dispatch to remove those purple doll boxes for maintenance boxes

[shell hazel]

my siren has this

I'd love to +1 the last line periodically

without spending 3 rocks a go and untold numbers of locks

[tropic summit]

hence why you shouldn't be fighting that dude...

pick someone else, if there's anyone else

maybe someone is an easier target

[tropic summit]

those are a lovely pair of legs

[warm monolith]

Three guys,one is full 1mil+,second is this and the third is just one place over me

[tropic summit]

in a parallel world where she's clip SG or clip RL maybe

[shell hazel]

I'd take her || shopping followed by a nice walk by the beach ||

[tropic summit]

take her where @hollow lagoon lives

[late tiger]

pvp would be decent, if there was an upper limit for gemers (pref weekly)

i siphoned 6.4k last season from an opponent

[oak hatch]

Seeing loads of people using this team, is it any good with an unbuilt mihara?

[shell hazel]

that's just the Hawaiian beach home

[tropic summit]

mihara needs atk% and be invested to deal substantial DoT, else she kinda tickles

[shell hazel]

ok I see

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/what-is-that-what-is-happening-sam-neill-remove-sunglasses-gif-15770358

[shell hazel]

he got the blanc skin

[oak hatch]

That’s what I thought, guess people in lower brackets just copying and wasting their characters

[shell hazel]

zanta buy me blanc skin yeah? as chief discord friend? 😄

[hollow lagoon]

sure u have to join my union for 1 month

[gritty ridge]

Siren is an smg

[gritty ridge]

Iirc overloads dont matter when shes dead

Just lb

[oak hatch]

so uninvested mihara still good?

They obviously saccing her

[ivory violet]

I dunno if any of us have ever seen an uninvested Mihara tbh, let us know how it goes

[glad meteor]

Need strong base attack or else her dot may be mid

Though it’s just a matter of she’s one of the better flex options

from the list of low gen units that can make a team like that work

[tropic summit]

just run any attacker that keeps you 5RL and can bait helmT nuke

[ivory violet]

Yeah I mean given how new that acct looks the cindy mihara comp is still probably better than other alternatives

[oak hatch]

Everyone in my bracket pretty much has uninvested mihara, i feel like the ca winners who won a couple matches with them just had Cindy carry the damage but not exactly sure

[gritty ridge]

Mihara benefits from equipment levels, doll levels, and limit breaks

[ivory violet]

Ah that makes sense

[gritty ridge]

If youre using her in pve however, she wants atk, ele, and crit dmg

[oak hatch]

Do you mean in place of mihara?

[shell hazel]

@hollow lagoon @upper grove added you to friends pls accept

[upper grove]

thanks

[tropic summit]

ye, mihara role is to be bait for helmT and die to contribute DoT
slow cindy is still powerful without mihara, just less effective on some archetypes

[upper grove]

btw is diesel any good in pvp? haven't checked the chat since her release

[tropic summit]

mag RL, burst gen on same tier as rapunzel

[oak hatch]

Ohh I see, so it’s just basically praying for helm matchups otherwise it mostly loses

[tropic summit]

no it wins against SGs and non lethal nukers too

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

glass cannons are killed by slow cindy + mihara because they die to DoT even if they lethal cindy, as rumani and blanc (or nayuta) are unkillable pre 5RL

[gritty ridge]

My humble slow cindy

[shell hazel]

oh you're trying the cindy first version? I liked it with cindy p2 personally best of all

[tropic summit]

@oak hatch for example look at this weak slow cindy example, p1 and p2 will steal biscuit stacks and rumani will die, so they can only keep going with blanc alone, who can't even burst and give indom because their B1 is dead

[gritty ridge]

Rail im gonna get you

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-anime-girl-running-anime-running-running-love-live-gif-22710773

[upper grove]

btw I'm in group 9 this time and one guy did so many pulls he has max core SW and crown

[gritty ridge]

Im gonna try out a few variations

[shell hazel]

i'm in group 1 and I'm running zantas cursed teams, which even he forgot to run!

[oak hatch]

So it still requires at least a decent mihara cuz I would assume glass cannon teams like scarlet would kill Cindy off the bat since the other defenders are likelier to get biscuit s2 leaving the main damage coming from mihara dot

[tropic summit]

this is an uninvested mihara example (match 1)

#pvp-arena message

[hollow lagoon]

Didn’t get notification

[shell hazel]

I see that jojolion guy a few times

[shell hazel]

in game

[tropic summit]

yeah you're onpoint

glass cannon like scar trina rh flex flex will die to DoT

[gritty ridge]

Slow cindy is weak to scar in most variants

[upper grove]

nice btw I saw that regular mast oneshot team clip here, what's up with that

[gritty ridge]

Rumani p1 blanc p3/p5 can win much easier

[tropic summit]

rumani and blanc need to get the stacks early

you can let cindy and mihara die for all it matters

the only time you need cindy alive is when it's an helmT B3 stall team

then you need cindy nuke to help the DoT be lethal

[shell hazel]

crit rate + I think

I don't have regular mast built to check

[oak hatch]

Oh wow even for uninvested that’s 60-70% hp dealt to everyone

Well maybe that mihara was decently built

[upper grove]

oh it's for crit oneshotting cheese not gonna use mats on that

[tropic summit]

ye because rumani and blanc were left alive, they burst on 5RL, which is a 10s indom, meaning in total opponent had around 15-18s of DoT going

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit im trying out this cindy variant cuz theres alot of normal fire teams in my bracket, cindy is also very tanky so she shouldn't get bisc stack

[tropic summit]

wait till you face built VestiTU, scarlets and libs

[gritty ridge]

Vesti beats slow cindy most times anyway

[shell hazel]

but you target skip which massively speeds up opponent RL (+75%)

it's only +25% on cindy p2

[gritty ridge]

That means less buffs for my enemy scarlet

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel which one is it

[gritty ridge]

She doesnt get any bullet stacks

[tropic summit]

that means they're earlier on buffs and s2 hit even harder on the other hand

[gritty ridge]

Yes

However, as long as rumani survives the nuke I win

[shell hazel]

gigachad

[gritty ridge]

My rumani may look uninvested, but she has 3 defense lines and tempura cube

[oak hatch]

Tbh when I first saw the team, I didnt think Blanc would be able to get the burst off due to how slow the team is but now it seems kinda broken

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/chess-chesscom-candidates-chess-gif-chess-funny-gif-26163840

[tropic summit]

it's mainly rumani, alone she can get to 5RL

[hollow lagoon]

lol max core account opop

[gritty ridge]

Its a weird team, I thought it was bad when I first saw it too

[shell hazel]

he's a spender but like hime level 😄

[gritty ridge]

So f2p?

[shell hazel]

hime level f2p'ness

[oak hatch]

Gonna have to try it out next ca

[radiant coral]

Well I'll be damned

[hollow lagoon]

i see opop max core pilgrim

hime opop

[gritty ridge]

Are you gonna win this CA?

[tropic summit]

time to change defense

[gritty ridge]

I gotta know if I should bet on you

[radiant coral]

damn, that's like my dad asking me if I'm gonna be successful

[gritty ridge]

Im in both of your CA's

[radiant coral]

😔

most likely not

I also got gemmed out of this CA on my main so I'm not even in it

[gritty ridge]

Rip

[ivory violet]

This is what everyone thinks haha that's part of what makes it one of the cooler teams to run

[radiant coral]

If only

I am on a deficit compared to others

even if it's a successful defense, they will gem until they crack it

[gritty ridge]

Whats a successful defense

Btw @radiant coral what group are you in on your alt?

[radiant coral]

31?

I think?

[gritty ridge]

31 you say?

A shame

Ill see you in the finals

[radiant coral]

I'll make sure to not show up

[gritty ridge]

Cmon I wont bite, im the 2nd weakest of my group, see?

[radiant coral]

you're at the top therefore the strongest

[gritty ridge]

Nahhhh

[radiant coral]

5-0 all

[gritty ridge]

Yeah most likely lmao

Poor captain

[radiant coral]

for me that's gonna be 0-5

[gritty ridge]

Captain made it to his first CA only to get abused in groups

[radiant coral]

the prelims are brutal

get past advanced so you can get paired with a brutal whaling champion

[glacial haven]

@hollow lagoon You're there?

[hollow lagoon]

[warm monolith]

Finally +1 mil🥲 @tropic summit @hollow lagoon now i kinda closed the cp gap a bit,def teams jump up from 750k+ around to almost 800k

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/super-op-overpowered-powerful-super-strong-strong-gif-15661983

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-wacky-bite-got-me-gif-16950691

[gritty ridge]

I wonder if anyone will make my vesti team lose for the first time

[hollow lagoon]

tf people still run alice for chapter pushing?

[warm monolith]

Bay still the most powefull but helm and the higher ones are 200k+ as well now

[swift mango]

with a gaming chair and good pc sure

[hollow lagoon]

[glacial haven]

Sup... Look. I didnt tested your teams before because my internet was down. So, I was thinking in giving your team a go before the reset

[hollow lagoon]

rail is here use @tropic summit

my teams are cursed

[glacial haven]

Oh.

Well, if he is willing to help me out

[fickle jetty]

will this work

[upper grove]

f2p btw

[hollow lagoon]

[upper grove]

nah I only whale for pulls and skins

anni drained me dry, gold mileage stash just vanished

[gritty ridge]

No, you need a defender in p5

[hollow lagoon]

i stopped at core 4

[fickle jetty]

just order change?

[gritty ridge]

I mlb'd both anni pilgrims and barely managed to scrape away with 600 mileage

[hot birch]

any counter teams for this please pvp experts.

[hollow lagoon]

t3 looks easy ish clap

[gritty ridge]

Put noah p1 moran p5

[hollow lagoon]

t1 also prob easy clap

t2 slow cindy it

[hollow hamlet]

Somehow I made it to challenger 6. I hope my team is good on defense...

[gritty ridge]

Defense is an uphill battle

You will almost always lose it

Its mainly for keeping the cesspit of diamonds away from you

[hollow hamlet]

Yeah, and I have lower CP than most around me. Hopefully my attack is good enough for me to take the position back, or at least stay in the 7-10 range.

[hollow lagoon]

t1 kill with 2rl noah/bay comp, dont put noah p1
t2 kill with slow cindy or indom vesti or stall comp
t3 kind of dies to whatever that nukes that has sustain prob can just nois cindy it

[ripe aurora]

Stalk your challenger rivals, add them to friends.
Hit them when they sleep, be unpredictable and unhinged.
That way nobody will touch you

[hollow hamlet]

Finally insomnia has a benefit!

[hidden fog]

i was wondering if i can ask here how to counter some teams

[hollow hamlet]

Is Bay worth treasuring for PVP?

[ripe aurora]

If you don't have Noah I think

[hollow lagoon]

dont need to treasure her, but having treasure makes her more consistant

[glacial haven]

@hollow lagoon This was your plan?

[hollow lagoon]

please dont run that

[hollow hamlet]

I have Noah, but I also have three teams, so maybe she's useful on another squad? Looking at her skills she doesn't need to burst, right?

[ripe aurora]

Eventually yes she will be useful, but not higher priority

[hollow hamlet]

I really don't have anyone else to treasure now. Poli is eligible but she's not great. Diesel looks like an OK unit to treasure but I only have 1LB on her.

[hollow lagoon]

i dont recall what units u have left over

[upper grove]

new treasures in January anyway

no need to rush meh treasures just for the sake of getting treasure imo

[hollow lagoon]

have xmica?

[glacial haven]

Urgh, no.

[hollow lagoon]

u gonna have to play this hard and fast then

[gritty ridge]

Whats wrong with the wall

[ruby iris]

I'm cooked already

I got the winner in my bracket 100%

Not like this please

[gritty ridge]

Just beat them

[glacial haven]

Here is the line up again

[ruby iris]

Real Imma poison their nikkes

The best part is that they copied the previous winner teams so I'm 100% cooked

[fickle jetty]

[gritty ridge]

Hwat

[ruby iris]

I'll never get those top 16 frames

[ripe aurora]

I got winner in my group last season.
Felt like that squidward meme.
Though I only lost 2:3 and he went and bodied almost everyone 4:1 5:0

[gritty ridge]

@hollow lagoon what happened here

[ruby iris]

Everytime I manage to squeeze in I get demolished by the top 2

[fickle jetty]

my moran die so fast there

[hollow lagoon]

dead team

[gritty ridge]

Idk how she died if you have biscuit

[ripe aurora]

You'll get your top4 shout eventually

[hollow lagoon]

rosanaed

[hollow hamlet]

Prywden made it sound like Poli gets worse with treasure. Still, that background...

[fickle jetty]

after b3 only my helm die

just moran die too fast

[glacial haven]

Not quantum? on trina centi?

[hollow lagoon]

centi has quantum

[gritty ridge]

She cant be used in p1 with treasure, but also poli has 0 usecase pre treasure

[glacial haven]

They are like these

[gritty ridge]

Pre poli treasure sg team used viper or x.anne

Now its mainly poli or nayuta

[hollow hamlet]

in PVP campaign she was my best B2 for a long time. Ah well time to put the dog cop out to pasture

[hollow lagoon]

that's cool too

[glacial haven]

Hope siren doesn't stuns

[gritty ridge]

How much ammo on your scar?

[hollow lagoon]

siren prob will stun, but more like hope ur scarlet dont die

basically hoping for ur rosa to burst and kill them siren and scarlet

[gritty ridge]

Also is that p1 scar with no tempura

And no jackal

[hollow lagoon]

tempering cube on scarlet

[gritty ridge]

Smh, just do this

[hollow hamlet]

no bunnies!

[gritty ridge]

Huh?

[wind kelp]

Enriched teamcomp names can sometimes be a bit weird.

[glacial haven]

TOTAL BS

[hollow lagoon]

@glacial haven if that shit fails, ask railtracer lel or keep suciding on my cursed teams

[gritty ridge]

The humble rng hope rapu stuns team

[glacial haven]

Even with rosana dying, somehow it managed

[hollow lagoon]

charge speed diff

[glacial haven]

But its not a safe team.

[hollow lagoon]

u rosana need tanky

[glacial haven]

Well... Scarlet has a temperin.

Rosana i put it bastion

(Just to give her something)

But yeah... In this case, she deftly needs a tanky one

[ruby iris]

How cooked am I? I'm the one with XAnne ofc

[fickle jetty]

well but p1 moran p5 noah work

[indigo mist]

Any advise on beating this team? Or is my cp to low

[fickle jetty]

well not stable

[gritty ridge]

Swap the position of helm and sanis

[fickle jetty]

but 2nd try i lost

[gritty ridge]

I love pvp deficit

[jade grotto]

Hi, I see there's a pinned message that tells me the best standard teams for defense SP Arena. Is there any list of teams for attack? I have pretty much all the characters except Emilia.

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel

looks like a 40b as i predicted

2 ele sbs pulling her weight

[shell hazel]

awful score

https://tenor.com/view/i-love-you-binh-gif-6142726653922245520

[hollow lagoon]

my union dont ave sync 600s like you

we make do with me

only a couple sync 561+

[gritty ridge]

Chat is this good dmg for my sync

[hollow lagoon]

wat u sync

[gritty ridge]

301

[hollow lagoon]

i mean u do like 2.5b more than my union's 266

prob good

[gritty ridge]

The only time ive done more dmg was when ultra was a boss

[oak hatch]

Is 3% less attack and 6% more ele a good trade on vesti

[gritty ridge]

No

Not for pvp

[oak hatch]

Oh I thought it would be better cuz lots of Noah and siren

[swift mango]

he probably just joking 46b at your synch is very good. You could get to most high tier union with it, aside from the absolute top. But you would get there soon.

[hollow lagoon]

but i like my union

[swift mango]

try harder
I won't though

[swift mango]

I think you could wait to boss 2 if you could.

[hollow lagoon]

no they buffed boss hp by like 4x

for stage 1

my union will never get to stage 2

[swift mango]

huh? when? this raid?

[hollow lagoon]

yes

its in the patch notes

otherwise i would have waited ye

[swift mango]

how much dmg you did last raid?

[swift mango]

so the boss became easier too?

[hollow lagoon]

nope

well easier for me

but this round of bosses are harder according to my union's sync 300s

[swift mango]

Unless you got 100 level in one month the difference just too big.

[hollow lagoon]

wind team stronger

also some of my supports came online

[shell hazel]

zanta will confirm compared to his union 🙂

[hollow lagoon]

i dont have anything in his range tho

[placid bloom]

almost same damage as me

when I was your sync

tbh all you need is strong Rapi

[shell hazel]

326 sync on ours @gritty ridge so I'd say you're doing OK

[hollow lagoon]

@gritty ridge there's my damage back in May

[hollow lagoon]

lol i did that damage last raid while being 525

[gritty ridge]

I didnt use rapi

[placid bloom]

well there are new pilgrims now

[shell hazel]

I do feel like number ++ on this raid though

[hollow lagoon]

its the wind comp

[placid bloom]

my Rapi has more than half my damage for sure

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/leespoons-u-wot-m8-gif-14609294

[swift mango]

hippo is like 461

[placid bloom]

everyone's damage should be higher if you can survive the Mat H lasers

[shell hazel]

456

[placid bloom]

there's so much strong wind now

[shell hazel]

doko Rapi @gritty ridge ?

[placid bloom]

I still lose someone like 1 min before the end

laser hits too hard

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/rapi-nikke-loading-screen-elevator-nikke-rapi-gif-15644854456752892370

[gritty ridge]

I cant hit fingers or stormbringer

[shell hazel]

you can hit them you just won't do it

bring bready as backup

[hollow lagoon]

what lasers

[placid bloom]

at your sync it does 1 dmg

[hollow lagoon]

if u dont break any parts it wont fire any laser

[placid bloom]

it's just a normal attack

once you get to like halfway, or a bit before

it stops firing missiles and does 3 lasers in a row instead

[hollow lagoon]

nah it dont hit 1 it hits like 30k but hp is in the millions

[placid bloom]

I can tank it for like 1 min before one of my B3s dies

and I have to burn my entire cover too

[shell hazel]

stall the qte's as long as possible

I didn't even see lazer disco

wait until like 25% left then hit them

[gritty ridge]

I can tank the lasers without crown up til the last minute

[swift mango]

when you get to synch range where the boss doesn't deal threatening dmg to you anymore you ofc get much better dmg.

[gritty ridge]

Then it starts going crazy

[swift mango]

[gritty ridge]

They kill me before 3 minutes

[placid bloom]

you have shield to block

the lasers don't go through shield or cover

[shell hazel]

just kill them first

[placid bloom]

I'm using Maid duo

I can swap but it feels bad

[hollow lagoon]

made my table perttier

[placid bloom]

wasting my dist dmg buff

Nayuta definitely doesn't heal fast enough so that's not really doable

[shell hazel]

@tropic summit