pvp-arena

[crystal flicker]

No

[onyx scaffold]

I think I will give those cn teams a try.
Still not sold on scar rap trina team

[hollow lagoon]

scar rapun ones are basically kind of betting on rapun be in 30% hp range for a huge enemy team stun

[onyx scaffold]

But this rap is p2

[hollow lagoon]

betting on scar being dead

[onyx scaffold]

I think she is there to revive Scarlet who is nuked by rosanna

[hollow lagoon]

idk what to think of scar rapun, i dont think its a gamble i'm willing to go for

[onyx scaffold]

Scar rap emi lap trina

That is the full team

[hollow lagoon]

idk what's emi

dosnt exist

https://tenor.com/view/mmt-error-error-old-data-fatal-error-inscryption-gif-6023676896000678543

[onyx scaffold]

Treat her like Laplace 2.0 but water code

[crystal flicker]

Soda Jackal Scarlet is the way

She's not La+

More likely VesTac 2.0

oh, I mean VesTac with extra CS

[hollow lagoon]

thing with ca these days, scarlet comp's win rate aint that great people dont even run jackal with scar now days

[crystal flicker]

They don't have enough investment

[onyx scaffold]

Yeah

And they wont

[hollow lagoon]

wekp time to see next season if i go into @crystal flicker 's bracket

[onyx scaffold]

Nobody ran scar jack in my bracket.
I noticed it and found that scar jack maiden could pull good win rate

Rng still fked me

And because someone uses my teams and wins
I expect it to be copied so my trick is no longer worth

[crystal flicker]

Because RNG f you up, you need to use Scar Jack

[onyx scaffold]

I need a premier team than
Scar soda trina maiden jack

[crystal flicker]

Maiden might be contender for Stall 2nd burst imo

[hollow lagoon]

if ur gonna run maiden why put soda p2

[onyx scaffold]

Soda higher atk

[crystal flicker]

How strong is XMaiden burst?

[onyx scaffold]

Maiden is to counter rosanna

[hollow lagoon]

oh right u have jack

maiden counter rosana? how does that work

[crystal flicker]

I don't have XMaiden, can see 1 tap enemy in PvP?

[onyx scaffold]

Maiden is defender. Rosanna wont nuke her. U can still burst

[crystal flicker]

You're wasting her

[hollow lagoon]

i guess but single target nuke unlikely to give u much chance of winning

[crystal flicker]

Enough Scarlet ATK and SG will die 1 tap from counter

[onyx scaffold]

Yeah but maybe not rosanna. I need crit

[hollow lagoon]

ngl scar win rate is not something i focuse on thesedays

building to kill sg comp where like 3 of the standard comps already kill sg comp is kind of like whatever

vesti kills sg, slow cindy kill sg, stall kill sg

[crystal flicker]

SG comp is dead, it's Rosa comp

[hollow lagoon]

sg is rosa comp

[crystal flicker]

Even Hippo slow Cindy lose against Rosa comp

[hollow lagoon]

cuz hippo's biscuit is "special"

mfker have like 4atk rolls and max doll on it its gonna get targeted by rosa 10/10 some times even over attackers

[noble hatch]

I agree with this, its definitely dying, but I saw some interesting SG comp, people are putting Nayuta into SG

[hollow lagoon]

where as for me rosa would poke my mihara to death and blow up my cindy's dupe?

[noble hatch]

She meant SG is dying out but Rosanna is surviving

[hollow lagoon]

what's rosa suriving gonna do? win u mirrior?

[crystal flicker]

You know Rosa dispell proc after SG first salvo

[hollow lagoon]

what' that dispell gonna do to slow sincy?

[crystal flicker]

She's gonna kill your P1

[hollow lagoon]

perfect my dead mihara gonna give u aids

[crystal flicker]

and Blanc

[hollow lagoon]

blanc has biscuit

[crystal flicker]

You're not reading don't you?

[hollow lagoon]

reading what

[crystal flicker]

Rosa can dispell Biscuit (with timing)

[hollow lagoon]

good luck dispelling that ur not making thru my mihara with first salvo

also rosa dispell target high attack units

so its cindy then biscuit then blanc

so what are u gonna do to blanc again?

[crystal flicker]

SHe gonna 1 tap blanc

[hollow lagoon]

how she gonna 1 tap blanc

[crystal flicker]

You know invincible wont save you if you're above 50%

[hollow lagoon]

ur gonna 1 tap a core 7 max doll defender on tempering without ele advantage?

[crystal flicker]

I have 50% Crit.

[hollow lagoon]

ok lets put that into perspective then

i can also roll 40% def

[onyx scaffold]

too slow

[crystal flicker]

Crit roughly double your damage without Ele adv

DEF IS USELESS

[hollow lagoon]

well moran comp is a thing

[crystal flicker]

The reason people use Vigor instead of Endurance

It's useless, you need like 300% DEF for it to do anything

[hollow lagoon]

that's fine

[crystal flicker]

SG

[hollow lagoon]

ur basically still working off the assumption ur timing is perfect

[crystal flicker]

I am

[hollow lagoon]

i'm just throwing u factors that brick ur timing and if there's mroe than 3 u shouldent rely on it

my favorite b1 with scar comp is still rosa

maybe i should run a non sg comp next season

[crystal flicker]

Yeh

Rosa only needs Sacc

[onyx scaffold]

wanna run this team

[hollow lagoon]

[noble hatch]

Woah, i was gone for a while and the convo has become spicy

[onyx scaffold]

i will swap maiden and laplace ig

[noble hatch]

Anyway, I cant see how the conventional SG team is going to work in the near future

[onyx scaffold]

somehow maiden doing more dmg than laplace at lower investment

[onyx scaffold]

it works if enough investment

otherwise, gone
hyper invested sg can 1 tap most everything

[noble hatch]

Theres more high burst gen and RL getting release

[onyx scaffold]

speed doesn't matter anymore

u actually want to stall and burst slow nowadayas

centi and anis are benchable

well. each has pros and cons. gotta pray

[noble hatch]

tbh, my prediction in the future is having a team that can survive and keep bursting when available.

[noble hatch]

true, its transitioning into this meta

but thats because theres characters that can make the team survive, currently its noah, biscuit, blanc, moran, taunt, indom, invul

I would like to have more strat and viability, so yeah im all in for this ride.

[onyx scaffold]

tldr pvp sucks

will see what i can do next week

[noble hatch]

For me I just want to win the CA once, so that I can get that frame

[onyx scaffold]

the only way to make pvp better is: speed up the season

[hollow lagoon]

this looks cursed already

[onyx scaffold]

if a season last for 3 days
10 seasons monthly. eventually u can win with RNG

[noble hatch]

Ballsy team 1 and I love it

[hollow lagoon]

if cursed team gets me wins i might as well keep doing it

literal havent won once when i'm running typical meta templates

only ever won on my own cursed bs

[noble hatch]

Can I suggest you using Tactical team for your Team 4?

[shell hazel]

the problem with team 2 is you meet SG's on def and then noah is dead

no b2 gg

[hollow lagoon]

not worried

cursed is cursed

might as well go all the way

[cedar sorrel]

I got a bit too high up now Im 200k cp lower lol

[hollow lagoon]

ok ill listen to hippo, that does get em wins

[ivory mango]

@tropic summit well it was fun

HAHAHHAA MY DEF RESISTED AT FIRST

[noble hatch]

Can I please ask, what is the use of Bay? I was a Bay believer but she doesnt do anything for me for few seasons... @hollow lagoon

[hollow lagoon]

like a weaker noah

[shell hazel]

a lot of people run Bay with the vesti comp

[hollow lagoon]

better?

[shell hazel]

I think so, noah will taunt and speed up opponent but you b2 with her fairly early

[shell hazel]

at least you don't horribly die to sg's in a bad match

[hollow lagoon]

idk i might just kee[ noah b2 and raise her gear level

i was close to dead vs a couple vestibut close still = success

[shell hazel]

to be fair I ran noah p1 (had a backup b2 ofc) but she didn't die before I got to b2 with her in any match

when my vesti face planted once at p2 lol

[ivory mango]

@tropic summit HAHAHA

LETSU GOOOOO

[hollow lagoon]

maybe ill gib my noah tempura

oh boi 3 quantum slots

[ivory mango]

LAPLACE TREASURE OFF BURST IS OP

[hollow lagoon]

lappy off burst is prob how i won this ca ngl

mirrior scar's soda being dead was the clutch

[shell hazel]

quantum on helmT barely does anything, shame

[hollow lagoon]

need it to push to 2rl

[shell hazel]

I know it's just you're like 99.9% without it or something stupid

though moran does generate ticking burst gen

[hollow lagoon]

O.o

idk if reliable

[shell hazel]

10F slower without helmT quantum

1 second is 60 frames

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

wouldn't mess about prob just quantum helmT or bring LapT over instead

LapT gets you 2RL without any quantum on anyone as she's a bit more gen than lib

so go with what you sent + 3 quantums or LapT instead of Lib and none needed

[cedar sorrel]

Ive never been top3 before so thats cool

[onyx scaffold]

i dont have enough CS on lib

[shell hazel]

you need a lot of CS on lib to get her 2nd barrage anywhere near 2RL

otherwise any level of CS and her first set is done before 2RL anyway

[onyx scaffold]

i need 10%

[shell hazel]

when she lands a hit you get the ticks adding more after it, at 10% your 2nd shot won't land until after 2RL and the ticks don't resolve until a bit after 2.5RL

[onyx scaffold]

2.5RL lib is too risky around vesti

[shell hazel]

at 10% CS you get no additional gen pre-2RL though

even when her 2nd hit lands it barely does anything, it needs to resolve the ticks to add up

each hit/tick is 2.93 burst gen

17.58 pre-2RL but this is the same even at 21% CS

actually at 21% you do sneak in a single extra 2.93 before 2RL but barely, so 20.5 in 2RL with the rest of the ticks arriving by about 2.5RL

that is a pretty high CS requirement however

[onyx scaffold]

put moran noah helm and rh in plz

actually i will ask hoboman

[shell hazel]

it's not 2RL, need extremely high CS on lib to get it closer

[nimble swan]

is 2.5RL slow enough for a noah team to tank against slow cindy?

[nimble swan]

oh I see everyone is testing this comp, myself included

[shell hazel]

no, the lib nuke version should beat slow cindy but you're weaker against other options

[crystal flicker]

I'm not using that comp, also isn't Moran Noah comp designed for 2nd rotation?

[onyx scaffold]

that comp allows u 2RL tho? moran stops your SG from killing themselve against scarlet

[frank ingot]

Isee, seems my charge speed for her is ok now. I might need to improve her atk% and element dmg%. Thank you

[gritty quail]

hi i was wondering if i could get help making quick decent teams for sp arena? i am arena noob since i just focus on pve mainly :/

[crystal flicker]

No

Against a proper Scarlet, SG will die before 2RL

[worthy knoll]

I have a high CS Lib, not maxed but close, 5 SG time trigger counts only 2nd shot and 3/5 followups, so 28% in 5 SG time

2nd shot wise, if comparing to Biscuit 2nd projectile hitting I guess its within 2 RL I guess 🤔

[gaunt pulsar]

that is max btw, you not getting any extra frames for having 24+2 from ajutant there, so yours with 23 is the best she can get

[worthy knoll]

Am not sure, but they say computation for Lib is different coz she is not 1s full charge but 1.5s

So even the small 1% CS has some difference I think, well at most just one more followup 4/5 for 5 SG time 🤔

[worthy knoll]

And yeah, the one on vid has adjutant too

[gaunt pulsar]

well according to nikke.work at least her last stopping point is 21%cs after that even 26 do not produce any extra frames, would be interested to see if it does, but that stuff is usually precise, and we already had alice with similar 1.5 charge time before so i would assume it's tested somewhat

[worthy knoll]

The follow up shots of Lib makes it kinda tricky, like how many can it count if in terms of 5 SG, like in the vid above, its not enough with Ada, Siren stunned Moran, but is enough with Nihil. Though if just in terms of 2 RL 2nd shot without accounting the follow up shots (0/5), then yeah my CS is more than enough

[ivory mango]

La+ is broken off burst

[worthy knoll]

Though I don't do the math so I'm not sure, but if its the max already, then good, I don't need to fish for black lines

[tropic summit]

good ol' Heeeeroooo

[ivory mango]

Then again
I am but a salmon in a megalodon world

A human amongst colossuses

pls rework my def teams

[tropic summit]

ye but you hitting them where it hurts, like Odysseus against the cyclopes

[tropic summit]

only if non whels are beating them, you know you can't defend against those

[ivory mango]

A trick can work one time, not a second time
Even David has his own weaknesses

[swift mango]

@keen vapor looks like your job.

[swift mango]

Hit them at 1 minutes before maintenance. Work everytime.

[tawny wave]

Can rosanna get stunned by soda in a 2 rl vs 2rl matchup?

[umbral belfry]

yes

just pray to rng that she misses

[tawny wave]

Figured

Ty ty

[umbral belfry]

[dim escarp]

[noble hatch]

:YesNod:

:YesNod:

[marble saddle]

@tropic summit you available?

[bleak rune]

I am in deficit, but i was able to hard lock them out of wins for a while. They found a team change and now they're beating me and I can't beat them anymore.

I'll try these teams next, thank you

[umbral crown]

[radiant coral]

The hell is a sea food salad

And why is it doing well

[hollow lagoon]

Dinosaur, strongest shield, ocean, soy sauce, jellyfish

[midnight marsh]

[umbral belfry]

[umbral belfry]

he got all the ingredients

[umbral crown]

But can not cook

[umbral belfry]

burnt salad for u

[hollow lagoon]

Golden W = this comp killed a vesti comp

[umbral belfry]

how invested was the vesti

and good ammo?

[radiant coral]

Hmmmm

I will try out this recipe

[umbral belfry]

[hollow lagoon]

I watched vids, them vestis dies before they finish ammo

[umbral belfry]

[hollow lagoon]

It will still die to Ada boosted vesti

Which was the L on my finals

[radiant coral]

😔

[hollow lagoon]

But rest of my comps pull thru

[radiant coral]

Is Siren also a weakness if Noah taunts

[valid inlet]

Thanks boop! Hope we only meet at the finals int the future

[umbral crown]

Probably like mine

[hollow lagoon]

Could be, but siren in ca is usually in slow Cindy variant which means that slow Cindy is gonna die, since bursting Noah later lol

[umbral crown]

[radiant coral]

I could be doing CA wrong all this time then

[hollow lagoon]

No man, my comp is cursed

[placid bloom]

not cursed, just gae

[hollow lagoon]

I literally did it for lulz I didn’t expect it to win but it did

[radiant coral]

Gambling with meme builds

That’s some real shit

[hollow lagoon]

My next one gonna be more cursed

[radiant coral]

Honestly with how CA is just the same few teams over and over again

You might just pull it off again

[radiant coral]

Is emma there just to die?

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/hes-figured-it-out-elisabeth-moss-cecilia-kass-the-invisible-man-got-it-all-figured-out-gif-16840527

[placid bloom]

do you taunt SG first volley or does Lap eat 1 before it kicks in

[hollow lagoon]

Enter battle

[placid bloom]

Idk if there is delay on atract

[hollow lagoon]

I recall Emma just takes everything

Let me look at my matches?

[placid bloom]

like how decoy has delay in PvE

[umbral belfry]

[placid bloom]

but it could just be PvE thing

[radiant coral]

That’s genius 💀

I keep getting MUTED IN THIS SERVER

Wow, they all make sense tho

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/only-war-reason-gaming-warhammer-gif-17304554

[radiant coral]

It just works

[hollow lagoon]

Idk if p1 can work tbh

Could very well be worthless

[placid bloom]

[marble saddle]

@placid bloom you got a moment?

[placid bloom]

?

[hollow lagoon]

The idea is take a nuke, freak res hood with mana, burst?

[marble saddle]

just wanted your opinion on something pvp

[placid bloom]

[marble saddle]

Lib or Soda? who is more useful overall to invest in gear?

[placid bloom]

for SPA?

[hollow lagoon]

Lib because free

[placid bloom]

or for CA

[hollow lagoon]

Since u already invest lib for pve anyway

[marble saddle]

SPA. im no where near 5 teams calculations

[hollow lagoon]

Soda in spa is kinda…. Like rng if u win or not and u don’t wanna count rng

[placid bloom]

probably Lib, Soda is a lot worse on Atk than Def and Soda Def require you to not be CP gap

Lib is useful for CP deficit attack sometimes

[marble saddle]

well Hoshi advised me to go for soda since i already have some PVE/PVP nukers but my lack of soda closes a few options for me

[marble saddle]

im not CP gapped. im ahead by 23 lvls

[placid bloom]

well if you are ahead and your Def is not holding that's when Soda is good

[radiant coral]

I do question about T1 tho. How is that going to work out

[hollow lagoon]

As a ca wonder of latest season and didn’t use soda i…. Have a subjective opinion

[placid bloom]

Soda wastes your opponent's attack attempts if they cannot build for it

[marble saddle]

guess im going to have a drink

[hollow lagoon]

Idk. I might last minute switch back to sg with rosana

[radiant coral]

o

[placid bloom]

not every time but once every few days they will fail attacks

[radiant coral]

Goodbye to Emma propaganda 😔

[placid bloom]

which helps keep you ahead in points

[hollow lagoon]

Emma propaganda was sg version

[marble saddle]

any OL stats required?

[placid bloom]

just CP pad

[hollow lagoon]

Def helps u to not die to enemy scarlet

But it likely still gonna die

[marble saddle]

so any Black/blue stats will work?

[placid bloom]

I don't think you are likely to die to enemy Scar counter unless you are at deficit

[hollow lagoon]

Nah

[radiant coral]

o

[hollow lagoon]

Enemy soda died to my scar this CA

But for spa I guess u jackal

[placid bloom]

my Soda yet to die even without Jackal link

if I fail it's usually because Scar cannot lethal with 1 buff

[hollow lagoon]

Enemy p2 140k+soda with max doll died to my scar and lapT

[marble saddle]

oh i almost forgot. what cube?

[placid bloom]

tempering

[hollow lagoon]

Tempering

[marble saddle]

fraq......

[hollow lagoon]

Pve main going PvP do be like dis

I’m glad I hybrid at the beginning

[marble saddle]

you might not believe me but i originally was PVP main
then SPA got released and i dipped

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/dol-huh-eyes-disgusted-gif-11690827820922534530

[marble saddle]

ive already reached the end of PVE so i figured its time for a main change

[hollow lagoon]

I’m busy being lazy at chapter 40

[marble saddle]

its not like reaching at the end earlier will get you too much of an advantage in resources.

[hollow lagoon]

107 vs 109

[marble saddle]

that 109 prob needs to have like 10k cd boxes to flex an advantage tbh

[hollow lagoon]

I know

Which is why I’m taking a breather

I mean I got to chapter 40 on 541 sync

[marble saddle]

so you're getting zizzed huh

[hollow lagoon]

Not pushing recoards but it is the best I can do

[hollow lagoon]

Not yet, the stages are atrocious so I’m just hanging around funny number

Basically right at 107 breakpoint ish

[versed mesa]

Cleared the newest chapters on day 1 in both normal and hard. Currently stuck on 1160 in Tribe tower, don't have the survival for Black Snake

[hollow lagoon]

I’m taking it slowly

Would be sad for me to run out of chapters for a barely more than a year old account

[versed mesa]

I just liked the challenge so couldn't stop myself

[hollow lagoon]

Me too but like

The realization kicks in

If I clear this, I might never have this deficit ever again

And if my end game is going to be easier than this from now on then I might as well play this on a more chill mode

[versed mesa]

Whatever gets you the most enjoyment go for it

[hollow lagoon]

What sync r u

[versed mesa]

656

[hollow lagoon]

Oh then it’s not even fun anymore

[versed mesa]

Still had a big deficit so it was not just auto for me

[hollow lagoon]

Maybe I should push a bit more

That deficit looking pertty friendly

[versed mesa]

The last boss was my biggest roadblock for a long time, some of those earlier stages weren't too bad.

[glad meteor]

[versed mesa]

I don't think it's that impressive, since I'm a day 1 player

[covert lintel]

The tower should be around 1200 for your level

[glad meteor]

I’m only 535 sync. Started in tove event

[hollow lagoon]

i started in cindy event

[tropic summit]

i sort of am now, what's up

[tropic summit]

no, you should wait for your korean rival to catch up

[quick lake]

oh whut, winter brid seems to be clipSG

https://i2.hdslb.com/bfs/new_dyn/5e3e4bb701fe17db8c24512dc306c6793546733590087876.gif@1052w_!web-dynamic.avif

Maybe

Seems like Noir level fast reload

[marble saddle]

What's the point of that?
I prefer keeping my piggy bank filled with some emergency funds if I need them.

[versed mesa]

All I care about, is how them 🍑 cheeks look like in shooting pose

[marble saddle]

Wanted to go over a team theory from yesterday's mistake. Im Currently having Dinner, will ping you when I get back to pc

[covert lintel]

that's clearly not a mag gun

[tropic summit]

Always be skeptical. Let’s not forget that S. Anis looked like a clip, but she turned out not to be one.

[swift mango]

Unless she is Defender, otherwise nothing new.

[marble saddle]

@tropic summit ok im back. you got time?

[tropic summit]

shoot

[swift mango]

[marble saddle]

its about yesterday's fiasco with the atk 4 hours after reset.

[tropic summit]

ye, one bit i didn't mention, you seem to struggle with common archetypes and always build kind of weird mixes

learn to specifically use these base archetypes:

• noah biscuit flex flex flex - standard stall, 2RL, 2.5RL or 3RL
• jackal indom flex blacn felx - standard indom, 2RL prefered

in general

• DO NOT use jackal with noah
• DO NOT use biscuit with jackal

[marble saddle]

this was the new team and the bottom was the planned atk team
hold while i get the 2nd pic

[umbral belfry]

[marble saddle]

i realize the problem was i only used that pic to base my change. i forgot that certain info does not get revealed on the deck vs deck image

[umbral belfry]

who's even linked

[quick lake]

Upgrade ur pvp units Zlaw

[marble saddle]

RRH RH

[marble saddle]

day 8 of reminding me to upgrade my PVP units:

[umbral belfry]

using a 4rl team (with all rls = barely any feed) is no bueno regardless

[tropic summit]

this works on the assumption p1 gets stunned, but ye 79% to 3RL would've worked the same as flex alice

[quick lake]

[tropic summit]

it's situational on yesterday matchup don't worry

[quick lake]

what are those teammms

[umbral belfry]

[swift mango]

But I use biscuit with jackal to beat deficit q

[umbral belfry]

if rail says it's fine but I'm still

[tropic summit]

he's the whel here

[marble saddle]

thats the thing. i didnt get to see the 2nd pic. so i thought my team was 4RL vs a now 3RL team
hence why i fumbled

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/megan-thee-stallion-gif-26113344

[tropic summit]

he's getting p1 stunned because his scarlet doesn't meet siren ammo check

[tropic summit]

ye feed mechanic is important to learn, especially when you messing with those kind of lineups

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

although the main mistake was not running blanc and running incorrect stall, just fundamentals betrayed you imo

[marble saddle]

so leaving aside that team. i want to take a look at my team 2.
i think the reason why i lost t2 was cause of jackal

[tropic summit]

absolutely, stall needs p1 defender + biscuit

but in your case, you needed anti nuke besides defender p1

the direct counter to cindy is anything that prevents her from landing her burst, main source of her damage

afterward, if your B3 is a DPS type, assuming mirror noah biscuit or even just noah alone, you'll out trade

[marble saddle]

team 2 was above. im wondering that my team and his team both will have noah block?

[tropic summit]

e.g.

noah noise cindy biscuit rumani
will lose to

noah biscuit flexDPSB3 flex flex

[tropic summit]

i actually gave you the counter for this one early on, that's the correct one minus rumani

rumani steals noah's taunt, making biscuit stack usage worse

plus you'd get emi shooting p3 p4 p5, where your DPS are

[marble saddle]

i was trying to figure out a b1 buffer for vesti but could not find one that buffs atk

[quick lake]

Man. everyone one seems to be running Moran Noah Helm these days

[marble saddle]

rumai wasnt even supposed to be there

[tropic summit]

i gave them to you

#pvp-arena message

since your opponent changed to emi, you should know emi hits up to p3, meaning you want to ensure your vesti is p4 or p5

[quick lake]

Rosanna can work here too

[marble saddle]

that the 2nd point i was trying to ask. will a difference of 2RL noah vs 3RL noah cause the 3RL team to get hit?
or will noah's burst still be in time?

[tropic summit]

ironically that team isn't even that good

[quick lake]

idk. This team’s win rate in CA was surprisingly high

[marble saddle]

siren?? hold on i need to read her skills again

[quick lake]

U can do 2RL SBS Blanc jackal too

[tropic summit]

ok you've to think about what's the nuke or damage you're trying to deny:

2RL noah against 2RL instant nukers (scarlet, pmaid, reit, ein...)
2RL noah covers up to 3RL liberalio nuke
3RL noah catches 2RL emilia nuke
2RL noah catches 2RL cindy
2.5RL noah catches partially 2RL cindy
2RL noah catches partially 2.5RL cindy

keep in mind catching partially a cindy buffed nuke can still be lethal, so avoid that

[quick lake]

Tbh. when u see Noah either

1. Stun
2. Indom DPS
3. Emilia nuke

[tropic summit]

small buff% and denies moran if she's on 2.5RL

everytime you see a noah biscuit team with a nuker behind them, you can counter with a same noah biscuit team but with vesti or emilia in it

[marble saddle]

but that team is on 2RL. siren wont be able to stun in time

[marble saddle]

[tropic summit]

ye they changed it to 2RL, remember?

at that point you don't really need siren anymore and can run different flex B1

[marble saddle]

yes which is why i cant use siren there

[tropic summit]

you can still use her as small buffer + offburst DPS tho

[marble saddle]

oh so my decision was correct in that case

[marble saddle]

[tropic summit]

ye but your problem was using jackal

that came out of nowhere

jackal was needed with scarlet indom, so you killed 2 teams in 1

[marble saddle]

yeah i was so concerned about catching their nuke i forgot what happens with moran after

[gaunt pulsar]

he's trying to speedrun the fights

[tropic summit]

speedrun to lose tho

[gaunt pulsar]

3rd team also had helm for some reason just for burst gen

[tropic summit]

ye which helped giving cindy the chance to hit biscuit's stack threshold

right, generally you don't need to run helm with jackal teams either

[marble saddle]

yes i read your msg about helm atking cindy cause SR
but if my scar wasnt P1 i doubt i could have triggered biscuit

[marble saddle]

the majority of the dmg to cindy was from scars s2 no?

[gaunt pulsar]

you had both helm and rh there attacking her actually, and not sure which is worse and how good your rh is she is counter element at that also

1 SR should've been fine

[tropic summit]

unless it still isn't clear to you, you had 2 potential strategies:

• 1 hitko on sustain
• 1 hitko everyone minus defenders + nayuta and finish them during scar indom

but by not running blanc, and adding trina, you ensured to throw both options away by turning your team in yolo glass cannon against a team that counters exactly glass cannons

[marble saddle]

surely they cant beat scar's s2

[marble saddle]

yeah i realized that after going through the vid

[tropic summit]

that's good, you learnin' then

next time you won't be caught with your pants down

[marble saddle]

the main reason why i fqed up was cause i missed the cruicial info that my team wasnt 4RL cause of the feed in

lessons were learned

now coming back to the 2nd team i posted. since i cant use siren for that team and my ada is a baby. what b1 would you have used? @tropic summit

[tropic summit]

against their moran noah helmt rh emilia you actually already know of at least 1 team that is lethal

remember the ress strat?

[marble saddle]

lemme check my past atks

[marble saddle]

this one?

[tropic summit]

now that you learned how to maximize biscuit stacks, how can you improve that team?

answer:

[marble saddle]

would this work?

[tropic summit]

you eating 2 stacks early on with that one

[marble saddle]

gimme a moment

[tropic summit]

p1 def and p2 def will pop biscuit stack early via enemy emilia and other dmg sources

[marble saddle]

would crown be better than centi here?

[tropic summit]

either way since you wanna play it safe, nothing prevents you from running the safer approach of 2RL noah with flex p2 and sustain p3

that way you don't need to sacc anyone

[marble saddle]

since she buffs as well as gives shield

[slate falcon]

I went always losing 4th place to these guys to this

[marble saddle]

🤝

[tropic summit]

that works too, although biscuit has a chance to die before giving 2nd stack to noah

you also meet requirement of 2.5RL if you give vesti CS%

[marble saddle]

im trying man...... i only got 1 rock from today

[tropic summit]

either way personally i'd run this

noah is ensured getting 2 biscuit stacks, vestiTU and biscuit are out of emilia atk range and you'll be dealing true dmg while they deal no dmg

[marble saddle]

oh wait 2RL....... man i need to start thinking outside the box

[tropic summit]

this is the safest approach

the other approach would be slow cindy, thanks to helm being main B3

[marble saddle]

i always get boxed in with trina goes with scar
i need to stop pigeonholing myself

[tropic summit]

you know how this one goes right?

note midhara isn't strictly necessary but a good addon due to her DoT popping on death, but it can be any bait attacker

[covert lintel]

My rookie team use noah biscuit with jackal

[tropic summit]

you can in rookie that's fine

in SP arena you generally cannot commit to that

especially if you've a pve box

[marble saddle]

just to see if i understood how to beat teams; to beat that team id need
indom with 2 buffer Nuker correct?

[tropic summit]

slow cindy has several counters but it also depends on the type

for example the nayuta type you need to account to survive nayuta B2
or the blanc type you need to ensure to be lethal on cindy

the siren nayuta type you encounter is the one that needs a bit more thinking because you gotta account for stun pressure on p1, nayuta b2 that will happened regardless and getting rid of cindy early

[marble saddle]

in case of nayuta my indom should keep my unit alive long enough
and since im going with 2 Buffer nuker cindy should be dead without any Biscuit proccs
unless i use scar on p1 again in which case i prob deserver to lose
the thing i prob need to worry about is miharas dot

[tropic summit]

the scar p1 would've been fine as long as you indom her

as i mentioned yesterday, if both biscuit stacks are used on nuke cast, your 10s indom will kill them off once it expires

[marble saddle]

but then cindy your get biscuit procc

[tropic summit]

ye and that's fine

you had a problem because you ran glass cannon

[marble saddle]

if i put scar in p1 then id have to jackal to keep her alive as well so i guess it is possible if i can bypass the issues

[covert lintel]

Try this old team as spa def

[tropic summit]

what happens in detail:

3RL you burst with double buff and indom scarlet
at 3RL, all units either die or procc biscuit stack
if all stacks are procced, they've 5 seconds to kill you, you've 10 seconds to kill all of them

[marble saddle]

damn.... privaty. feels 2022

[tropic summit]

since you'll have nayuta on 1hp, cindy on 50% and rumani on 50%hp (+HP buff), scarlet will kill all them

rumani stack will also already have expired, so realistically only cindy will remain

[marble saddle]

wait a min. theres only 1 defender
what is biscuit even doing?

[tropic summit]

it's noise linked, which pops jackal as biscuit target and reduces damage on her by 1/3

[covert lintel]

sanis buffer

[tropic summit]

that team has very strong synergy between the units

[marble saddle]

you mean biscuits skill that lets her heal supporters via dmg they deal?

man...... now i feel 2022

[tropic summit]

s.anis lifesteal with biscuit was very strong

initially that was also a CA team until she got powercrept

[marble saddle]

i recall seeing it in rookie but not as much in SPA

[glad meteor]

Until people finally believed in nero

[marble saddle]

isnt nero only in CA now?

[glad meteor]

Yh

[tropic summit]

you can use nero moran in SP arena, although on def it's exploitable by a lot of things

[marble saddle]

wish someone had told me that before i dumped 50% of my resources in her

[glad meteor]

Besti made my it ez

[tropic summit]

true damage is the bane of most DR based teams

[marble saddle]

Vesti: im about to ruin this man's entire career

[tropic summit]

either way @marble saddle , get familiar with these common teams and try to always think first "can i use this, as is, or do i need to customize it"

noah biscuit vestiTU RH/liter/siren helmT
scar blanc/trina rh/siren centi jackal

[marble saddle]

my vesti refuses to get a CS stat even after 70+ rocks
although i managed to get 3 eles 2 atks and 2 ammos so its not all bad

[marble saddle]

will do.

ive identified my main issue: getting confused with Burst Gen mechanics
i can cook teams to a certain degree. once i get used to feed ins and Speed timings i can prob start figuring out positioning as well
cook being loosely used here

[covert lintel]

Just cs 18 all your RL char

[tropic summit]

experience is a lot in this game, once you figure out the common patterns, it really gets to be a game of rock paper scissor

at that point you simply pick the right one

[marble saddle]

thats what? 20 RL units?

[tropic summit]

on a very generic approach, you'll always have:

1 noah stall
1 indom

or

1 noah stall
1 nuke

or

1 noah stall
1 adhoc team (sustain, pseudo stalling, early aggression (rosanna), slow cindy...etc)

[covert lintel]

Cs 18% for any RL units

[tropic summit]

why stop at 18% when you can 21% like Rin

lad has a F*ing scarlet 1.7RL he's B3 before enemy is on B2

<@&946725432554836008>

[covert lintel]

I will, after breaking my stubborn emi into 25%

[tropic summit]

you need to correct her 💢

https://tenor.com/view/emilia-rezero-rambling-silly-gif-12258895905377246546

[covert lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-spank-punish-tutor-gif-6097887

[glacial haven]

Any sugestions for the second or third team? Im try to understand better the mechanics and having a hard time to make Blanc's Indom hits Vesti. (In this case it worked, but it feels like a coin toss)

For reference.

[gaunt pulsar]

jackal and 2nd linked unit HP should be higher than vesti for blanc to target the right one, there nothing else to it, just check their hp in stats

[placid bloom]

Your team 2 is too slow

If you’re using Lib as your 2nd link you need a clip RL p4

Or it won’t be consistent

[gaunt pulsar]

unless units outside of link get lowered by scarlet s2 more than units inside jackal link and it causes you to missindom, was looking at wrong team when i was talking about scarlet, but it still applies to such scenario where you attack her*

[placid bloom]

You can tweak Lib’s HP with vigor cube if she’s lower than Vesti

[glacial haven]

Let me check Lib's health

[hollow lagoon]

@marble saddle I pushed, now i'm ziz stuck

[glacial haven]

Ada has the lowest HP. ~7k difference

[marble saddle]

welcome. have your ziz burger while you wait

[hollow lagoon]

Gonna be a long one I feel

[placid bloom]

Ada slows your team too much

If Cinderella hits her you can indom wrong target

[hollow lagoon]

I want Cinderella to spank me

[placid bloom]

She won’t, it’s not beautiful

Grave will spank you instead

[glacial haven]

Me too brother. Me too....

[glacial haven]

So, change to another battery instead?

[placid bloom]

Yes

[glacial haven]

And forget the true damage?

[placid bloom]

You will lethal just from Blanc Vesti

Ada is overkill most of the time

She is good for deficit

[hollow lagoon]

I want her to spank me while telling me I was supposed to destroy the sith not join them

[placid bloom]

If you are going to use Ada you need to run Helm as 2nd link

Or your speed is too inconsistent

[glacial haven]

In this case, my team 1 just murder his team. Unless i can put other one in her place, but i dont know if would mess the comp and the burst gen too much

[glacial haven]

Well, even if Cindy wouldn't spank us, Red Hood probably will. And I'm fine with that.

[hollow lagoon]

She dead tho

But I think Helm will do it

[glacial haven]

Red Shoes was too, but somehow, she returned.

[hollow lagoon]

My personal belief is that, Rapi turns into Redhood on full moon nights like werewolf

[glacial haven]

"Shift Up taking notes on how to make her return"

[versed mesa]

One does not simply stay dead in an anime/gacha game

[hollow lagoon]

I get to play with Harran again?

[summer copper]

we take the AZX to travel back in time and kidnap a Red Hood and bring her to the present

[versed mesa]

Back to The Future collab when?

[hollow lagoon]

U don’t need to kidnap just show her pic of her hometown was reclaimed

[glacial haven]

Maybe 2.5RL is enough? Or i maybe try to push helm on the team 2 and try to make up for the team 1

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-26735735

[glacial haven]

Maybe it will work now?

Nope, It didn't.

I need to outrun rosana. My team must be at 2RL.

[umbral belfry]

put a quantum on trina or rumani and it should be 2rl

if not both

[glacial haven]

they already have

[worthy knoll]

Ice Rose

[swift mango]

Wdym? True DMG doesn't bypass DR.
It's just Vesti consistently hitting p4-5 screw over Rapu survival and 2nd burst cycle for Nero team.

It's just the same as Rapu+Nero+Moran losing to Cindy+Midhara dot, Wiper with enough buff, ReiT and Lobby with enough ELE.
Rapu died and no 2nd burst, no healing and the team lose

Replace Vesti True DMG with pierce DMG then add a little more buff and she would perform the same.

[shell hazel]

run this against the scar

this against the noah/cindy

if you have xmaiden you can tweak this better as she has much better burst gen than cindy does

quantum on noah and rumani, probably vigor on LapT so she doesn't steal the link

quantum can also go on jackal and centi if you have more

[covert lintel]

I'm always thinking true dmg is bypass def buff not DR.
Idk which is the truth tho

[glad meteor]

True damage bypass defence stat

Need damage taken debuff to counter damage reduction

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit i need new def teams pls:(

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit i did it

[fair pivot]

What defense teams work best against CP pad whales assuming they don’t know what they’re doing?

[hollow lagoon]

what\s ur gap

[fair pivot]

About 15%

I imagine worse if they consolidate their attack on two teams.

[misty finch]

Any recs for SP def teams? Pinned teams aren't working anymore. Also have LaplaceTr now

[hollow lagoon]

2rl vesti, soda scarlet, and 2 rl lib nuke, or vesti indom

[misty finch]

Am also willing to build new units if nessicary

[slender radish]

Is there a legit liberalio defense team?

[hollow hamlet]

Part of me wants to model what would happen if I attacked them, part of me doesn't

[hollow lagoon]

send this and they are dead

[hollow lagoon]

if ur scared of feed u can send this

[hollow hamlet]

no scarlet or noise 🙁

[hollow lagoon]

what do u have

have helm?

[hollow hamlet]

Yup, treasured

[keen vapor]

Who pinged me here

[hollow hamlet]

Jackal, Noah, Rosanna (uninvested), TVesti, Cindy, Ada, a few others

[hollow lagoon]

@hollow hamlet send this for great justice

u might want bastion or wingman on vesti

[tired root]

hello, which cube is recommended for Rumani?

[hollow hamlet]

and no blanc 🙁 It's OK, I'm rank 3, I probably have more to lose. Vesti has bastion.

[hollow lagoon]

no blanc?

[hollow lagoon]

have noah?

[hollow hamlet]

Aye

[hollow lagoon]

send for great justice

noah even needed?

idk murder fr great justice

[hollow hamlet]

May try that, thanks. Need to take quantum off one of my SPA teams. CP deficit in SPA is hurting me now but still a lot of gems once this is over.

[hollow lagoon]

nah

that quantum not needed

put whatever good for ur cp

u will be 2rl regardless

[swift parcel]

If i post my units, would i be able to get help regarding how to build for the arena modes? I havent been paying attention to it and thought i should

[hollow lagoon]

u can

i'm not the best tho

but ill try

[hollow lagoon]

no trina?

[hollow hamlet]

nice it worked! His biscuit took forever to die

[hollow lagoon]

it got indomed but tis harmless

[swift parcel]

No i dont have

[hollow lagoon]

ur vesti have life steal for 10 seconds from you are not threatened at all

[tired root]

anybody?

[hollow lagoon]

tempering

vigor

[tired root]

if both are the same level, tempering?

[hollow lagoon]

yes

[swift parcel]

Shes on the wishlist but thats about it

[hollow lagoon]

helm skill 1 level?

[swift parcel]

My first 5 units are 10/10/10

[hollow lagoon]

fair enough

[swift parcel]

Treasure rank is only at 1 tho, unlucky with fav item drops

[hollow lagoon]

that's fine

[swift parcel]

If anyone is not at max skill, i dont mind bringing them up. Ive just been saving resources since getting my main team to max

[tropic summit]

post you box and your current 3 def

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/spy-family-anya-anime-clap-wow-gif-142883711582845267

[tropic summit]

• nayuta centi helmt rh laplaceT
• jackal vestiTU drakeT blanc trina
• noise noah vestiTU biscuit rumani

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

any 2RL indom or 2RL-2.5RL stall behind noah

e.g.

indom vars:

• jackal lib laplaceT blanc centi
• jackal lib helmt blanc centi
• jackal lib drakeT blanc centi

stall vars:

• noise noah lib laplaceT rumani (2RL)
• noise noah lib biscuit rumani (2.5RL via CS%)

[umbral crown]

[swift parcel]

Ok ill go for this, thnx. Could you help me with the SP teams as well?

[warm monolith]

My pc is off rn heres my nikkes https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtMjAwMzQ2ODI4NTA2MTI4NDEzOA%3D%3D&openid=MjkwODAtMjAwMzQ2ODI4NTA2MTI4NDEzOA%3D%3D

[tropic summit]

need to see your 3 defs to get a clue what they beating in the first place, post those aswell once you've access to PC

[hollow lagoon]

me handing out cursed comps

[swift parcel]

[tropic summit]

the enemy won't know what to do if the maker himself doesn't know what those do

true 4D chess master

[hollow lagoon]

2rl lib nuke and a 4rl late nuke

the shield from rapun could speed enemy enough for the tech

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

or maybe cindy p1

[swift parcel]

Ill take what i can get. Ty big boss

Can 3rd team be any team of just leftovers?

[misty finch]

Massive thanks 🙏

[tropic summit]

the problem with those teams, aside the speed, is probably the CP tho

rapunzel(alt), noir, biscuit are very low in his box

[misty finch]

Wait there’s two vestiTR 🤔

[tropic summit]

vesti in T3 is liberalio

[swift parcel]

[hollow lagoon]

he ask a whale so he gets teams from whale perspective

he's low sync so just slap in orange gear anyway

cp too low? just sync up

[hollow lagoon]

wishlist jackal, trina, rumani, rosana

[tropic summit]

a more balanced CP and distributed speed approach for 3 teams

SP arena

• nayuta centi cindy anis rh
• noah biscuit lib liter laplace
• scarlet sbs blanc helmt noise

as for wishlist, indeed go with what zant said

[hollow lagoon]

lel scarlet body pile if 1 scarlet die there be another

[tropic summit]

ye double threat teams, useful when they're jackalless

[hollow lagoon]

@swift parcel also wishlist Vesti Tatical UP 🫵

@tropic summit imagine if i tell him wishlist emma TU

[tropic summit]

your next CA bracket is gonna feature her, you can be sure of that

at least 1 lad will copy pasta it

[hollow lagoon]

i know

its gonna be funny af

i should keep running cursed teams

[tropic summit]

for real

go spread more propaganda

[hollow lagoon]

poison the minds of the chinese community

[tropic summit]

"bro this new cook came out, you see this emma TU in p1? man it slaps"

[hollow lagoon]

dude i was the only one with english name in top 8

[tropic summit]

making us all proud, go beat le chinnits

[warm monolith]

Noah/biscuit/cindy/rumani/siren
Vesti/blanc/tlap/centi/jackal
TBay/trina/thelm/rap/tdrake

[hollow lagoon]

if i win another one with cursed teams their strats gonna degrade into derp

[tropic summit]

oh wow those are old alright, still running p1 indom

[warm monolith]

Also help w these too pls@tropic summit

[versed mesa]

I've made it to CA everytime since it started, have never gotten past Advance stage

[glacial haven]

Sorry for being this late.

The ideia is there, but I think my Vesti doesn't have enough ATK or enough ammo.

[hollow lagoon]

lol

you call his old

my spa def still on the 3rl

[dim escarp]

[tropic summit]

update your def to this, T1 has a trap let's see if they bite

[glad meteor]

maybe sync issue

[hollow lagoon]

imb4 i post my box to rail for spa def

[warm monolith]

Thanks but no noise built still

[hollow lagoon]

my noise is 7/7/7 level 3 ol gear

[warm monolith]

Mine is 1/1/1 with no ol

[hollow lagoon]

why u dont love noise, ur suppose to love the chocos

[warm monolith]

The reason i didnt built her is not because i dont like her. Also no comment on the second part

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

you have enough ammo but how did the other version work here, same indom vesti idea? 😄

[tropic summit]

T3 is 2.5RL, you know what to do

[tropic summit]

noise can be rapunzel, although build noise already

[shell hazel]

@glacial haven from memory you don't have xmaiden right?

[warm monolith]

Yes and no. Also thank for the teams

[glacial haven]

I do have her.

[glacial haven]

yep

[glad meteor]

Maybe helmt buff

[tropic summit]

why you not building noise? give me your reasoning

[glad meteor]

From s2, so enough dmg to kill cindy

[shell hazel]

oh I did mention if you had her we can use, it makes it easier to bay the scarlet

[hollow lagoon]

sensitive ears

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/getout-gif-16327023334064302194

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/voldemor-harrypotter-mechant-sorcier-magie-noir-gif-12511017

[gaunt pulsar]

there could be only one 🍫

[tropic summit]

his bay has more invest than half his campaign team

[warm monolith]

Too much else to built rn,i just kinda finished libe,i still gotta built mmast,manchor a bit,rosanna,trina(still didnt touch it tho lol),chime for tower now you tell me

[vapid lake]

DIESEL SO CUTE I NEED HER NOW

[tropic summit]

oke then she can wait, use rapunzel for now

[tropic summit]

ikr

[warm monolith]

[tropic summit]

can we get rid of uh... ah well

[gaunt pulsar]

kinda cursed

[hollow lagoon]

[glad meteor]

[shell hazel]

Fire please can you check who links with jackal in this team before sending anything?

[tropic summit]

meanwhile hippo cooking 5 star meal

[warm monolith]

T1 and t2 around 750k t3 is 850k i wonder why

[shell hazel]

you can do it in an AI mock battle or similar, check who gets jumpin jackal flash buff

[tropic summit]

cuz your overly invested hot chocolate lady

[glacial haven]

One sec then

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/castorice-honkai-star-rail-star-rail-rice-fried-rice-gif-15126117275146411567

[glad meteor]

Lib cooking

[hollow lagoon]

that bay prob 4 atk 4 ele 4 cs on 6 black lines

[warm monolith]

New treasure will be the nikke who gets a gacha skin in next update btw

[umbral crown]

🧱

[hollow lagoon]

blanc treasure is unlikely...

[warm monolith]

Ive seen.

[shell hazel]

so much ai stuff running about lately it's hard to tell unless they have like 7 fingers

[hollow lagoon]

she's not fallen off enough to warrant a treasure yet

[warm monolith]

Though could be fake:(

[warm monolith]

She is popular enough to get one

[shell hazel]

frankly I'll have to wait and see more official sources before I buy into anything

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointment-immeasurable-day-ruined-my-disappointment-is-immeasurable-and-my-day-is-ruined-gif-25049040

[summer copper]

popularity is irrelevant

[glad meteor]

How long till mod nuke chat

[hollow lagoon]

bro i like them bunnies too but if we play the populatiry then cindy/rapi should be getting treasures

[tropic summit]

they don't read here anyway

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/whyarewenotfundingthis-familyguy-funding-funds-gif-5547091

[shell hazel]

treasure won't just go to popular units it's main thing seems to be old units

[glad meteor]

They gave one to tove

[hollow lagoon]

tove is old

[shell hazel]

that's why you won't see treasure for anyone recently super recently

[glad meteor]

[warm monolith]

In reality,no. Cuz ive only rolled her stats once and got 11/12 of them and i didnt touched them since and dont plan to

[hollow lagoon]

older than my account= old

[shell hazel]

wiht Tove they also had to fix her kit from the major RNG issues

but should have just buffed her skill instead of forcing treasure

[hollow lagoon]

tove's fix was BAlice kind of

now we can run without B alice hurray...

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit ive won but the guy i beat earlier beat me down my spot just now

Dang it

[glacial haven]

Just checked. Jackal's S2 falls on rapunzel and vesti.

[hollow lagoon]

nothing u cant solve with 100 gems

[glad meteor]

Mainly no more rng hunt, for tove s1

[hollow lagoon]

i know

[tropic summit]

did you change your def teams already before attacking

[warm monolith]

I did but the guy is over 440+ so she has more cp

[ivory mango]

@tropic summit

[shell hazel]

damn rapu 😄
I wanted it to go to noise

[tropic summit]

oh there we go, le gapping

[ivory mango]

def teams reworking ?

[warm monolith]

Ive already spent a bit

[tropic summit]

box and your current 3 defs

[hollow lagoon]

gamba rapun b1 for stun?

[glacial haven]

I could try make it work. Let me see real quick

[hollow lagoon]

get some noise copies

or shift gear/level gear on noise

or take off cube

and give noise stronk cube

[ivory mango]

#pvp-arena message

[shell hazel]

it should be ok if it doesn't just means you can't run noise at p1

it's likely due to attack OL's

[hollow lagoon]

outpost 588 not 107.5 😢

[glacial haven]

Bruh....

[shell hazel]

we lack the noise buff but this should still win it

expect link here is jackal vesti lapT

[hollow lagoon]

no gamba rapun b1 stun?

[shell hazel]

no, rapu mainly there as sustain post noah b2

[hollow lagoon]

u fighting a indom?

[shell hazel]

no just noah/cindy have to out-trade after

[hollow lagoon]

try ada? no?

[glacial haven]

Stat wise, Noise has more ATK than Rapunzel ,and still steals the link

[hollow lagoon]

ada=lifesteal+stronger vesti

[shell hazel]

ada/lib also potential flex for lapT spot

[shell hazel]

the in game stat screen does not account for overloads

[hollow lagoon]

i mean replace rapun

[shell hazel]

if rapu has 22% atk and noise has 0% then rapu may have higher overloaded atk value

[glacial haven]

Oh. Good info there. Didn't know

[shell hazel]

similar concept I guess

if vesti b3 with ada does she still get life steal? I didn't get to use mine much yet

[tropic summit]

try these next

nayuta rumani biscuit siren cindy
jackal scarlet laplaceT blanc centi
noah noise anchorIM vestiTU helmT

**T1 **cubes are irrelevant, run any

T2 cubes
jackal quantum
scarlet temperance
laplaceT quantum
blanc vigor
centi quantum

T3 cubes
noah temperance
noise vigor
anchor vigor
vesti temp
helmt any

[hollow lagoon]

vesti b3 = attack up vesti with life steal, ada and laplace does not

[ivory mango]

Doing it tomorrow I’m in bed

[umbral crown]

[glacial haven]

Now i understand. Noisa has only one line af ATK (11,8%)
Razpun got two ATK lines (Both 11,8%)

[tropic summit]

it's saturday and already in bed at midnight
french ppl sure as weak

[umbral crown]

Ryo gonna do the thing

[tropic summit]

he got all the ladies with his rizz skills

[shell hazel]

yeah, it's fixable but the alt suggestions could also work without wasting rocks

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/groundhog-day-bill-murray-oui-do-you-speak-french-gif-12697588

[ivory mango]

Give me my own apartment and I’ll make sure to camp each second of my time in this channel

[ivory mango]

[tropic summit]

[ivory mango]

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-what-you-edited-murder-drones-doll-murder-drones-gif-11571486945487329662

[hollow lagoon]

apartment? how big bro wanna be a apartment landlord?

[ivory mango]

Pure and innocent
I’m pure and innocent

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/sd-gif-6990089281338326026

[umbral crown]

He did the thing

[shell hazel]

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

Rosy you died at finals also right? 🙁

Zanta stole our luck I think

[hollow lagoon]

should ran some cursed comps

[umbral crown]

I did at top 4

[shell hazel]

oh I thought you got to finals

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-coffin-coffin-dance-funeral-funny-farewell-gif-16737844

[umbral crown]

And the boi i lost to was the winner

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/bh187-star-wars-obi-wan-chosen-one-you-were-the-chosen-one-gif-19623066

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/destroy-the-sith-star-wars-it-was-said-that-you-would-destroy-the-sith-not-join-them-gif-16486235

[glacial haven]

So, i take noah out from T1 and put it on T2?

[umbral crown]

[ivory mango]

Not using lib ?

[tropic summit]

she weak on def

[ivory mango]

Noted

Ty

[hollow lagoon]

if lib can shrink, couldent she also.... expand>?

[shell hazel]

Bay works for anti-scar if you're 2RL

and xmaiden is the best anti-ros/scar nuker imo because she's a defender ros won't gun her down

[glacial haven]

I dont have TBay builded.

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/gushing-over-magical-girls-maho-shoujo-magical-girl-surprised-disturbed-gif-13120696653143240502

[shell hazel]

don't even need treasure version. 4/4/4 Bay with no OL works OK as long as you are in cp range

you just absolutely do have to be 2RL or it's doom lol

[glacial haven]

Let me check then

[swift parcel]

I have one rosana and the others are on WL already. Should i add her back to it?

[glacial haven]

Real quick

[shell hazel]

you could try some chaos team on t3 for science also with whatever we have left

[hollow lagoon]

that is up to u

[swift parcel]

Okayge, ty 4 help. Ill come back once i get some gooder units

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel what's ur union's afk policy

[shell hazel]

officially? 3 days but we have a few that go a bit longer

[shell hazel]

yeah I'd yeet

[tropic summit]

the priviledged

[shell hazel]

nah I just don't want to yeet people who are like a week tops haha

[hollow lagoon]

union leader want to see if he magivally resurrect fo raid lol

[shell hazel]

pain in the ass recruiting, skip hard mode and get kicked if I can't reach them on discord to discuss though

I'd say more than a week without any comms is deadge

at 2 weeks basically good chance not coming back

[tropic summit]

hell 3-7 days is already a bad sign in my book

[hollow lagoon]

this guy pulled a mirical and returned for raid after a 20 day dissapearance

[glacial haven]

I'm cooked

[shell hazel]

what is this? I gave you the team lol

[tropic summit]

1. found a girlfriend
2. girlfriend found out he likes nikke
3. girlfriend found out she likes nikke more than him
4. girlfriend dumped him for nikke
5. bro came back to nikke

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

scar team

cindy team

you can run some funky thing for t3 still maybe also

?

[tropic summit]

put someone to sacc in p1

[shell hazel]

see if we can force some misindom bs

ah OK one mo

[tropic summit]

where anis p1 for sacceroni with maccaroni

[tropic summit]

yes murder crow, good

[shell hazel]

[glacial haven]

Its the T1.

[umbral crown]

We put zant there

[shell hazel]

can un-sync anis for sac

[glacial haven]

That's the T2

[tropic summit]

he can't be sacced cuz he's such a fat whale he won't die

[shell hazel]

no it's some chaos I sent you the teams

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

t1#pvp-arena message

[umbral crown]

Whale issues

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

[glacial haven]

https://tenor.com/view/ahoklollmao-of-course-ohhhh-oh-that-makes-sense-gif-11896286840118452668

[shell hazel]

@glacial haven show the teams before you send em

need to check cp

[glacial haven]

My bad

[ivory mango]

Is someone here at ch40 hard mode ?

[glacial haven]

The T3 is completely open for science.

[shell hazel]

range looks good to me I think checking t2 quick

833K needed so you're above the min

science for t3

we're going for nayuta/ros/lib see if we can make them indom the wrong thing

[umbral crown]

Not me

[ivory mango]

aw

[shell hazel]

Zanta is I think

[tropic summit]

does he have anything to splash on p2

nvm looks like he's emiless and already using vesti, laplace and xmaiden elsewhere

[shell hazel]

yeah emiless time

Fire let's send it if you don't mind the gem cost for 1 try - record for 🍿 ?

[glacial haven]

Hold on... Making Rosana useful and putting anis on synchro

[shell hazel]

we kind of want anis to die but I think she needs to be synchro to not get hit by cp deficit here

[tropic summit]

can sacc scarlet aswell instead in case

[glacial haven]

Wont work. CP is too low

[tropic summit]

ye need 762k

sacc scarlet instead and yolo

[hollow lagoon]

upgrade that rosana doll

[shell hazel]

don't forget cubes if not added

but yeah could sac scarlet at p1 if you don't want to burn much resources this team is cope anyway

the other 2 should win

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit according to viper asmr she's bad at walking

[glacial haven]

💀

[hollow lagoon]

i see a lot

[shell hazel]

ros prob not lethal without good doll level and atk rolls anyway

she's just here to do some chaos

[hollow lagoon]

ros is hot so give her a doll

[glacial haven]

Yeah, just builded her. Put 4/4/4 and OL her gear

Just.... I hope she wont eat it all

[shell hazel]

btw this is what we are kind of going for, I just couldn't get your noise to link
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/inyFv164o2A

[glacial haven]

Ouch....

[shell hazel]

oof

[hollow lagoon]

cursed

[shell hazel]

I had that before as well it's so painful sometimes

[glacial haven]

Done.....

My savings for Overspec Annis.....

[shell hazel]

you got a month or so at least

[glacial haven]

[shell hazel]

alright, send it!

[hollow lagoon]

os anis comes with mats when pulling anyway

[shell hazel]

not if you don't whale on her lol

[glacial haven]

Last check...

[tropic summit]

zant tends to forget about the common mortals

[shell hazel]

762K rail said so it's in range

[tropic summit]

ye it's range but

how's scarlet instead of lib for reference?

(CP wise)

[glacial haven]

🤞

[hollow lagoon]

emma propaganda time?

[tropic summit]

hmm this is interesting you've potential to kill blanc

[shell hazel]

needs to hit scar though right so scar sac?

[tropic summit]

yeh... thing is with trina it's gonna take a while for scar to die

[shell hazel]

true

[hollow lagoon]

sac a zant

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-goddess-of-victory-product-23-reload-shotgun-helmet-gif-4707361882217144972

[tropic summit]

well regardless sub lib for scar, as lib nuke will be unbuffed after she dies on 2RL

anis nayuta trina scar ros, yolo

[shell hazel]

faux-biscuit here also may work?

then no trina for scar sac

[hollow lagoon]

wouldent trina also buff lib nuke?

[shell hazel]

but I worry that ros will just nuke moran 😄

[tropic summit]

lib nuke loses all buff after she dies

there's noway you living through 2RL vesti on blanc buff