#pvp-arena
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There are some CN players with a CA win and good teams
basically it's a few of us vs asia lol
Ye lol
majority of the top 64 are chinese
Basically
My top 5 i’m the only non Asian
Maybe top 10 even
I think theres another non asian guy
if I get through and RIn gets through I face them in top 8
4 at a time
i'm feeling like i can reach top 8
then after could face booba whale again they made it to top 16 for a change
he misses you
he probably doesn't lol
u were his soul mate, wothout u he's incomplete
Splirnok still running shit teams?
I don't think he was enjoying the routine beatings
Can't post my other images, I have more
so is noise on higher CS% than noah? check their charge speed OLs and sum them up, you can use blablalink to check in case
hmm mostly meta I guess
noise vesti bay jackal
nayuta ver slow cindy with siren
sg ros blanc edition
moran noah helmT common thing
scar rapu trina
the scar rapu trina thing is questionable I don't think it will pay off much
scar wants a buffer, and no soda removes the rng
My defending sg lost against it bc rapu revived someone 
And they burst in time
or do you've a moran built viceversa
oh yeah I suppose it can do that 😛
Otherwise shit team imo
I posted my 32 matches if you wanted to see them and hadn't yet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhUPJeKuHlM
Ok here my box
Oh nice, I eat something and watch meanwhile
eh just run this, let's kill siren and prevent them bursting, will do
(you're on the left)
I'll try this, also this first Pic is my Noise vs my Noah
is 25% charge speed the max breakpoint?
assemble these and let's check CP
(you're on the left)
you need:
1,054k
978k
1,057k
yeah that's a noah taunt priority, run the team i gave you earlier it will do
#pvp-arena message
Thx i will test
no don't run them, we need to see CP first
Ok ok
just post the matchup with the above
Man I have no idea how to build a defense team now with vesti/helms existence
Looks like any teams I built there's always weakness with two teams due to the existence of helm and vesti
def has been on the losing side since the release of this game, don't worry
you are indeed wasting time

this game is meant to be played 10-30 mins a day and do something actually worth your time
unfortunately not everyone notices it fast enough but it's a matter of time 
I'm considering if even 10-30mins is wasting my time tbh
When you're in your 20s yeah you really don't think about time management
Now that I'm nearing mid 30s it's like, uh yeah this seems like a time sink
I guess for me the big time waste so far in this game is the surface stuff
Unfun, lots of waiting, no skills involved
half assed mode with re-used assets and plain boring gameplay mode, you've to question how it even passed ~~beta ~~design phase
i guess they found out a lotta players play strategy games and decided to make a mode that seems like a civ-like game with nikke
it has all the parts of a civ-game but its boring af without random elements and a looot of waiting
i doubt anybody asked for this as a player lol
anyway back to pvp, theres like 3 players constantly challenging this sole 3rd position now
the rocks and gear xp is useful at least
definitely
im logging in like 3 times a day to maintain that rank so feels like im wasting time there
sp is a cruel mistress 
I got stuff to build and hime/rail eat all my rocks so at least they can't eat the ones from surface content
what was the last time you weren't rank 1?



haha
good god imagine the dust on that throne
I'm uncontested atm but I was contested a lot last shuffle 😄

I'm going to run out of time to test it. I'll look at it tomorrow if the positions don't move. Thanks to you Railtracer (always there to help me, thank you!)
150D and chilling
no problem, just ensure you meet CP before running them
1,054k
978k
1,057k
I still remember when I was at 97 days successful defense and I was trying to get 100, but then folian said no
I imagine I get isekaid in with bigger whales at times, I can't compete if a wild zanta-clone appears
I will check it 😉
hime what sync are you?
@hollow lagoon you got a doppelganger
man i remember when i was playing destiny child, SU's first gacha, i was competing with whales as light spend. but this pvp a whale can just spend a lot and get way more combat points, or just spend crystals endlessly for rematches that theres no point competing
475 
damnit Hime
🐟
I'm going slower now bc I'm focusing more on hsr again
I got tribbie e1 last night 
you not got time to buy cd daily? 😄
am f2p
your spending is too weak 
it is lol
hime out f2p'ed you 

I'm 448 (baby sync)
whale
by the gods don't remind me 
i feel like i'm gonna bluescreen irl
zanta is like "SU I'd like to open a bank account with you" 😄
i'd like to sit in between

me too
I did that one as well I kind of wanted more cyrenes but not in this economy

I can't be whaling on every game lol 😄
I need phainon 
@hollow lagoon show him the ways
I can get most of what I want this way
i only play nikke
which is probably good for your bank account 
1 Harem is enough Harem for me
a man of commitment in their non commitment
it be what it be
what did you whale on before nikke though that was only a year or so ago right?
why is soline trying to date me in her bond story, girl i'm ur dad, ur mom is cinderella
nothing,
well
you can't whale on nothing
cindy mommy? 
i whaled on a house
holy sh
yeah I already whaled on a house as well I suppose lol, partly why I don't mind spend some here :9
let's have another baby 
I did only minor changes to my defense teams, after losing almost the entire day yesterday, since I couldn't beat my main rival. Somehow they didn't manage to win against my changes now after reset, that I managed to swap places, even though to me they were super minor. I'll take it though!
If it’s anything like my rival , suddenly they reappear with sr15 dolls everywhere and a lot more cores
Hey does anyone know if unclaimed arena points are automatically claimed when SP arena season ends?
say it's 3 hours before season reset and you've 40% unclaimed accumulated points, if you don't claim them, they'll be automatically claimed at the end
Okay cool I couldn't find any confirmation online but it seems intuitive that they'd automatically collect. Otherwise you'd have people having to claim the minute before season end which is annoying
you could not claim all season and they'd still be auto-claimed
yeah that's not gonna matter, everyone collects their remaining % at season ends don't worry
I thought rewards capped at 100%
the 100% cap is not on arena points it's only on the arena currency
ahhhhh
the shop currency
spa 1 unchallenged for 2 weeks will still rank 1 at the end based on points auto collected
or exchange vouchers
even if they quit the game and didn't sign in 😄
yes it's the cap for those
so yeah don't worry or try to min/max that too much
this is actually incorrect, my whel quit at ch3 and i was able to rank ch3 because of that
it doesn't make any diff anyway
even tho he was still "in the ladder"
only after he was reshuffled out due to activity ranks shifted, but he was not collecting any points, even at season end
would that not just be because you swapped in to rank 1 or 2 sometimes?
no i never did, i was ch4 constantly
i just want to make sure I can hit Champ Arena and the 3 ahead of me are ultra whales 
he was ch3 whole season
this was the 2 seasons before reshuffle
so i think you need to at least collect once
I read somewhere that you have to claim points atleast once per season, so the system considers you active, but dunno for sure.
Over 1700 for rookie 
yep what nix said sound right
that could be right yeah
Even if you only do it right at the start of the new season and never even check back again
Yeah your not on the points list without claiming once
@shell hazel here's proof
effortless ch3 thanks to him AFKing back then
and he was already over 15 days inactive iirc
the theory you need to claim at least once seems valid
I was unchallenged for almost 6 months in 1st place, until the latest reshuffle put the 3 of my worst opponents prior to that into the same group
. No more easy gems.
This one 
@coarse solstice 
I wonder if anyone has been able to do that actually 
2 accounts in the same bracket 
In before Hime is Cup

it's true it was me all along
Is it possible to beat someone with a 60 level synchro gap
it can be with the right team but likely very very hard
Maybe I get your cheer next 

They're sandbagging with their Jackal.
And I just noticed she doesn't even have a doll.

But this doesn’t do anything 
bad flex
the fact that they can just put her in sync anytime they want and then very much cp gap you makes me wonder if it's even worth trying
I guess if you really really want that win?
at that point they're just egging you on 
The thing is, I used to be able to beat them and I'm not sure if I wasn't paying attention to their synchro level or if they suddenly decided to whale.
Either way, no I don't need the win that bad but wanted to know how viable it was to win at all.
how bad is the cp gap 
I know there's a level cap
how bad is it with a team like 2rl noise noah vesti
or a lib
or mostly anything with a noah
that's winnable for sure
I think I just ran this particular match up and it ended up with Cindi auto attacking and wiping my team because of blanc.
at least until they put jackal in sync
well your team is slow
no point of running Cinderella if she's not even bursting
that too
on that team comp? the only way she bursts is if helm dies before then
or a 2nd cycle maybe
but at that point they should be dead
2nd cycle. a bunch of ppl in my bracket have a similar set up so my helm is there to sort of placehold before cindi
lol what sort of flex is dis
some weird catfishing tactic if ppl don't notice the level 1 lowering the average?
SG's could yeet lapT then noah if you're lucky, before 2RL though unsure :p
I feel like this shouldn't work but it does
https://youtu.be/C9BKUFeUkpk
hey all, what team should I run (for both modes)?
why not use the dupes
What does the RL stand for? 
time
also what would the 3rd team be? :o
idk i'm messing around
oh you put so much effort into it 😭 thanks so much
idk try dis
rail will make better stuff
but i'm not rail tracer
i give u stuff i think might work
he actually give u stuff that's probably tested
that's okay, better than what I currently run for sure :')
actually
also surprised that there's no SR Anis isn't she pretty good?
she is but ur cp is no good prob?
ah that's true yeah
any skill ups that are absolutely mandatory?
or are they fun the way they are for now and I should focus on the pve stuff first?
CP wise they are equal
who to replace tho
u wanna do 160 wall yes?
replace bunny soda with rumani
replace grave with noah
alice is basically 3* already (in 30 standard pulls), drake is also basically 3* and would require one last 3* to break the wall
replace laplace with trina
laplace is late game thing
u need her treasure which takes a while
so can acclumate materials in the mean time
right now a trina will be major comp breakthrough
want me to replace the alice for rumani then? since alice is basically 3* already
u can
but u can just use the new Soline over bunny soda so bunny soda can come to u later in the game and its whatever
oh okay
bunny soda is like late late game comp
its mostly for champ arena and solo raid
ur not screwing with sg comp on solo raid untill ur tove is treasured
that's months away
fair
since u should be working on helm treasure at the moment
even if u do wanna screw with sg comp right now u can just use the frost soline
wich is on banner
btw this might not be pvp related, but what do people buy with the black tix here
does helm pop up there?
helm not up there anymore
but its mostly to help with mlbing stuff
or get the units for treasures
for example prob good to get tove to 2 star for treasure? but still that's a late late game thing
alright ima keep it in mind, gotta get helm into that wishlist then somehow 😭
new years selector if ur desprate
oh wait nvm I have her in
surely I'll get her to 3 in the next 30 summons 
non zero chance
but close to zero
first person to have helm treasure in pvp bracket = the first one to pile bodies
@hollow lagoon you got a min?
Is nayuta useless with a 4RL+ team? (Yeah it's probably better with blanc)
@gritty ridge you got a min?
Whats up
just need a vet to check over my homework
ignore t2. thats me just hoping
t1 and t3 are the areas im trying to mald
T1 and t3 are good
thank god
or thank pvp gods
for t2 should i try to reduce my Burst gen to catch emillias burst?
noah is still available
You can run 3rl noah yes, but you need to be able to outlast the rest of indom
T2 may work, scar isn't known for being good at surviving
she just needs to live long enough to burst then she can die
if it fails at least i got 2/3
True
Congrats
ty. now i need to fq off for work. had to beat him in under half an hour while getting ready 
Some ppl run this in CA, I don't know about its general performance but it beats the blanc version of cindy stall
This team will lose against high dupe Moran
compare the team and your CA winner(s)
my scarlet team lost against some random ahh team 
xDD
Is it a bad idea to have moran in Rumani's spot? And maybe have Mihara in Siren's?
Me went sleep
No worries. We got the kill.
#pvp-arena message
I've never tried it but with Moran over rumani, nayuta's indom will probably expire before you can even burst. But experimenting with new cooks is fun give it a try
@coarse solstice are you winning
oke next step is 2 stalls 1 indom i guess
pick 1 stall 2RL, 1 stall 2.5RL and 1 indom (prefer vestiTU)
ye most stall have B1 moran or noise (2.5RL)
the other stall 2RL can indeed be noah + biscuit
keep in mind if you run 2.5RL don't go single B1, especially if she's in p1
else siren can deny your chain
there's another one 
what's better blanc for indom or bay to counter scar nuke? my bay is max investment except rolls
Bay
you need to be 2RL though for sure with Bay, too slow and no good
That team is prob 2
i don't rly understand what's that 2RL but i checked in deck it says 2.5
need to invest on cs to be 2
having unlinked p1 isn't helping your burst gain either
unless your noise has more atk than either vesti or emi 
2 is faster, CS on emilia or vesti can make it faster
if you have none then it's not 2RL. if you have some then it might be
should i use cs cube instead?
do you have cs on emi and vesti?
vesti cs is 13%
emilia is 9%
maybe? only one way to find out
welp
haha, nice rolls otherwise
you can get 2RL without vesti or emi with some other options for the scarlet team that might be more consistent
depends what else you are running for the other teams
emi and vesti both have this slightly not always 2RL thing depending on CS
you can put your team into nikke.top and add the actual cs as well to see what it looks like
i lost to noah again
@crystal flicker cya in top 8 
@nimble swan beat the previous winner 4-1 so I'm onto bigger things
Mmm the smell of dead indom vesti in the morning
think it's survivable with helm burst
So Crusadia ur SP buddie?
Nice, congrats
It’s rng arena for a reason 
@cunning crown
had one of my cleanest runs so far which is weird lol
only lost a few matches so far
@short moon
my duty is done
Hime champ run!?
no I likely lose next round LMAO
but it's to an ex-pie
so it's time I once again sacc myself for the greater pie good
Hime champ run, lock in 
Im always confused by the replay’s who’s who
Congrats bro
it doesn't matter your next opponent could be Hannibal for all it matters

it's because you listened to my prime evil advice 
Im just bashing and trolling my SP and Rookie since I died in group 🤣
Ate 2 vesti comps dis season, 0loss black horse comp
Btw @shell hazel can I see your teams somewhere?
Wierd ass team but works
sure I can post em later on, I'm at work atm
Thx, just ping me if you have time
Have fun with work
I’ll do the same lol
i'll try to have fun lmao 😄
I didn't really think the RH version was that good tbh I didn't have a single 2 cycle fight that needed her for it

think it works better with extra firepower
I tested in rookie but i used bsoda in p4 to nuke on 2nd burst.
Enemy team was some noah helm biscuit cindy jackal.
They killed everyone but last minute p5 rh burst killed everyone and i won
So rh quite valuable
But i think she should be p5 with another finisher
Worst case she can burst and kill
problem is never wound up on 2nd rotation lol
Against vesti it can happen or slow cindy can kill you
I also think 2.5rl version with cs req probably better
Can also run with noise instead of moran.
I think it’s a good concept, but the basic moran (blanc) like chinese cook with laplace has many flaws
Can create many variations of that team
Now back to work 🫡
@shell hazel @nimble swan vesti was a weak one
i like how the helm nuke was so massive it sent jackal+ helm into the shadow realm and vest hp went into the indom
a single shot from helm heals her from like 30% to 80
she heals like 50% iirc
also potato vesti but nice win
well guess your helm is stacked too
helm is my strongest unit probably
my standard, #all i get is 2 ele
that's your standard 
could really use the last atk roll in this
good luck for 3rd line lol
happened once could happen again
it happened me too so not saying it's impossible
just
very painful
i guess to counter stronger vestis in the guture
i just level up moran and noah skills more
and their gear
Tove lost the fight .... But made top 8
now we have to see if @umbral crown spanked @tropic summit
@dense kindle 
bigboi champ run!? 
No
lock in
I lost
still top 16 was good 
I couldn't see it was you who lost image too small without fully loading it which I couldn't do due to being at work 😄
just don't run into soda scar like me 

yeah someone ping me of the results
the final before the final lol

ah well top 8 is good even if I die 😄
Ty for bullying the bully
I going for Rin he's part of my CA for longer than you 

my job here is done
now I can rest
it's time for me to pie sacc


hippo vs rin 
Everyone having fun while im lying in the graveyard 
Don’t tell me 
go look 
lock in zant
i honestly could lose the next one ngl
its like in the 50/50s
as per tradition I won't check my next matches we'll just rng the outcome
Where is a resource that tells me how to build a PvP team? Lvl 254 synchro device and I have no idea what I’m doing. I just put in my campaign team and hope for the best.
go on without me hippo


I suggest reading pins alongside asking any other questions you have in here

Currently using this team per a guide and getting stomped
Units are sending. What team should I use instead?
Are there meta teams or individual units?
How can I make my team 1 better without dropping below 2RL and without changing my t2 and t3? CP is too low on t1
According to a pin, i did

where
Prydem discors but let me log
u prob will feed to 2rl
or u can stick quantom on trina and jackal
Rosy: 
Rail: 
Thanks boss

@hollow lagoon

The match up pretty ass ngl
feel free to check teams but I'll just check the results tomorrow I don't want to analyse anything 😛
best of luck anyway at least one of us gets to top 4
Natuya Biscuit was an unexpected winning combo against stall team. Outstalled the stall! :O
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What should I do vs this?
@shell hazel crazy top 8 all but me from the other side of the world
Rosy vs Asia
Rosy champ run again 
tis but a stumble on the path of one fated to be champion
Its what i would like to but these wheels hve invested units
top 8 is always fairly tough I think people by now have generally invested stuff to get there, some rng aside
some heavy hitters in the bracket which Rin and I are in
ur t1 seems too slow?
their scar can get feed to 2.5
I thought you lost 😮💨
We keep going 
Yup so you have to win now 

My T1 is the only winner when I tried those. T2 and T3 lost.
ur scarlet prob died in t3
no vesti?
Yes I have her, should I try her vs T2?
I think the day I get 3nd Ele line for Rapi is the day this game EoS.
First time I clear Kraken though. 
I just need 3 Ele line on Rapi. Not even 4, but that's too much to ask with my luck 
can somebody explain what aoi yukibot is doing here
burst gen
lol this worked vs his T2, after burst only my Xmaiden and Noise were alive an only his Moran was alive. Took a good min to wittle his Moran down 😛
i wasn't real comfident but it is what it is
why you bet on me it was obvious 
easy money
i think im voting against the grain here
burst gen?
to the MA shadow realm you go
there's no MA but i'll take the shadow realm, i heard dark elves are pretty sexy

im definitely thinking pincher has this
like he loses round 1 and is favored to win 2-5 right?
can you show pics instead of a vid 
i did vid so i didnt have to spam a ton of images but i can if you want
2 is rough for pincher, depends if the crit is good
3 is ttnt likely to win
darn
yeah ttnt wins t4 too
He still lack the silver frame

🤏
eah sg team can keel the indom vesti?
indom with nayu as main b2

what indom vesti
this guy have a lot of sus team 
yeah defending sg, centi is rip prob, then vesti dies to sg and rosa
ttnt wins
he must be gae virgin
just like me
on a scale from 1 to suske uchiha how sus are we talking
prob 6/10 sus
wait
the scarlet is standard
the cindy is standard ish
6/10 ye
that scarlet is 114k its weak sauce af scarlet, siren b1 buff aint likely to make it slay the slow cindy
even more reason that ttnt wins
I mean 80% of his doll is R15
Bro is using my slow Cindy so I had to vote for him.

I find few people in this Smol SEA bracket using similar to my old builds. Good to see my builds also getting used be other.
ttnt wins, he got two championships with surprise teams, then he loses to Lova in top 4 match
@hollow lagoon you got a moment?
bigboss in maincord

giving good insights for ppl that votes our baby bracket


how to beat a noise/noah/helm/jackal/biscuit in rookie?
wanted to ask if rossana teams always include Scarlet and trina?
or run moran helm and out sustain it
nope
well my opponent only uses her in that combo so idk how to use her properly
use her to disrupt jackal links at the minimum
or use her for burst gen
or use her to yeet helmT
im trying to use her in def teams to surprise opponent
but idk what abomination im making
ur problem with that set is ur likely saccing ur 2 b2s
I tried this, blanc/mihara/rumani/biscuit/cindy right? when cindy burst, noah shield still up
so would putting maiden on p2 be better?
put cindy p1 or p2 to speed them up
are u trying to sacc a unit?
like, I need to slow them a bit more?
no like u need to make them burst faster
isnt that rossana's entire gimmick? you need to sac 1 unit to give her some kind of buff
she gets attack up yes
or u can just good old rosana yeet the helm
basically make them burst faster so their noah goes ahead so cindy's burst will start by by the time noahs invul is ending
what sync are u
updated, man hardly any losses but awaiting my 5-0 crash out 😄
so im assuming here that trina will most likely die before rossana starts. the sanis is there for the attempt to keep the full burst
575 my sync vs 582 enemy
damn..... yall playing e-sports for CA 
gotta track my teams at least at a basic level
easily see if one team gets rekt then
@frank ingot have vesti?
vestiTU? yes
How does Rosanna survive in this SG at 3.5rl constellation?
Wouldn't n't she die prior to bursting?
cant hurt to just do dis
From 3.5?
I thought it would have to be lower
RL is just timing, the important thing is burst gauge
something has to die for ros to get the gen though
how is your top 8 looking @hollow lagoon ?
50/50
you think this team can work if theres a 1 min time to atk?
#pvp-arena message
What about rumani, blanc, cindy 5rl?
Wouldn't one of these defenders die prior, since biscuit only covers 2?
depends on the matchup. There are some matchups that cannot swing over defender p1
not every team has AoE
generic stall team has no AoE and can only swing at p1
interesting, def feels like I'm in a bracket above diff wise
so they get walled by Biscuit
fighting the last season champ
all my top 8 well into 500 commander levels
Scar Soda also does not necessarily have the damage to one-shot both defenders
yours got a mix but mostly under it, think mine is generally older accounts
So blanc only exists, cuz she is defender and would survive a nuke cuz if biscuit as cindy will always have more hp
Immo wouldn't proc on cindy, right?
Cinderella has decoy, so rocket splash is unlikely to trigger Biscuit but AoE nuke can
it doesn't really matter if they have AoE nuke though
because Mihara dies and burns down the enemy team if they have AoE
as long as you're not wiping in 1 clean hit
Does mihara need sr15 or just 10/10/10
if you're going to be competitive then all your B3s should be SR15 10/10/10
unless their skill just straight up doesn't scale with skill level like SBS s2 or something
Any important lines she needs?
prob atk ele and ammo
4 Atk 4 ele 1 ammo, extra is padding
Got it, thanks ya all o7
what if your Mihara doesn't die in time 
i wouldent know
if your mihara doesn't die you'll lose
source: I lost a similar match before when my mihara didn't die and she b3
you should win 2, 3 is essentially a mirror match of sorts, 4 you could win? you'll eat them from red hood in reverse anyway
5 I think you win
happened once could happen again
if your noah b2 you should be fine
it killed dis one 
i'd argue maiden ver has more pressure
and my noah lived
ofcourse this one could just have bad rolls
must.. not.. spend
anyhow we'lll find out

i'm back to 0 after rolling off a atk roll on drake for a ele
fat AnOS incoming
would be good but no probably use for Ein 😄
and Ada maybe
MC prep 
my matches if anyone wants to see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX6bSn3mlPI
learn from the real master
those are rookie numbers

oopps made mistake
which one is gae virgin team though
emma propanga and salad
so ive been told my pvp is trash no burst gen care to help anyone
nikke 2070 
After I get 3rd Ele for Rapi I might as well stop spending rocks and save like this guy.
you'll never do it
spend the rocks as soon as they land in your hands
the way of the zant

Idk how u ppl hold on to anything more than 20 rocks at a time, i get the urge to gamble as soon as i see that i have a stockpile

you people have rocks? 
This you?
And those ppl with 1000 rocks in their account they clearly dont play the game at all
Or they dont care about their waifus being strong
Except i hear AWW DANGIT repeatedly
I usually like to save so I can do like 10 tries at a line 1 fix or similar
The only thing that stops me is running out of custom locks
but at this time MC waiting room so I need to ensure I can sort of roll Ein/Ada a bit

custom locks is actually a massive issue for me as well
I wish we could freely lock/unlock stuff and just change the rock cost with it
rocks are already a time gate mechanism we don't really need another one
lock one line = 2 rocks, lock 2 = 3 rocks. simples


I need a wisdom, who's winning this one?
this must be newer bracket, no way bottom make it to top 8 with those teams 
They both fluked so hard, and now i have to pick one of those bums
Time to snipe ur enemies 
top team 5 seems OK, jackal linked vesti etc? ada just w/e here
Yes, but since it is indeed a newer bracket top one managed to avoid backloaded teams and whales, who by some miracle got bunched in 2 death groups
I mean team 5 assume Noise is linked and not Ada
if she is then this guy actually have 5 real team 
So, top?
yeah
hmm actually maybe 4RL Moran Bay beats slow Cinderella 
is this the bad player lucksack strat 
it would actually be so funny if team 1 Noise let them survive Scar Trina nuke and then they get reverse wiped by Nayuta 
true some people don't check it :9
then they lose team 2 because Vesti indom
and then they lose team 3 because super slow Bay 
that would be too funny
but pretty sure Blanc still wins for team 3
10s indom too long

@shell hazel what you think? work or fail?
Just checked and for what it's worth top team 3 haven't lost all tournament
I mean he knows what he's doing, bottom guy doesn't

only way for top to lose is being super unlucky
Too bad the next matchup he'll die anyway.
@tropic summit messy atk i made. 
looks fine ish
i didnt account their for t3 noah
i was too focused on blocking their lib that i had basically risked brawling with them
t1 i hadnt considered that biscuit + trina would buff moran to that high sustain
trina moran comp is rare ag
almost lost vesti and then the fight if rng hadnt been kind
t2 idk what happened tbh 
i went into that fight with meh im gonna lose but ill prob win 2/3 so gg
my guess is drake somehow helped to kill hs vesti before blanc could indom her
t2 is weird, lucky counters on vesti and emil and caused damage share from jackal to derp out?
no look at this point jackal burst had ended
vesti was already dead
jackal; burst is not what does the damage share
yes but im just saying is by the time blanc burst came up vesti and emi was dead so jackal got indom
oh their jackal was p1, and they ate so much dps from drake and scarlet and damage share killed vesti and emilia
just means ur drake is huge
yeah thats why i thought drake was responsible
that vesi and emil is squisy af tho
i cant be sure of that since they arent mine but yes i assume so
anyway that t2 feels more rng than t1
Does defender win this CA stage? by a quick look i think defender wins but i want to ask to the experts just to be sure xD
Someone can shed a light on me? I'm really struggling on this one.
manhandled by moran
isnt scarlet supposed to be in slot 1 for trina
or does it only care that shes the leftmost applicable
I swear. This Moran-Bay combo is driving me nuts
If i put scarlet in the left, trina still wont make her survive until she bursts.
he countered himself, you don't use 1 time nuke at the same speed against a team with 2 anti-nuke skills and you don't use siren to feed a team with jackal and nuke/continuous dmg...
you can just nuke vesti team or play the life steal battle against helm/rh
I even made Scarlet-Trina-Red Hood-Helm-Libe (For battery purposes)and still, he still burst at the same time.
Note: Libe and Helm are with quantum cubes and still he manages to even me in speed.
wait, yeah.... he lost that round because noah burst
lib is a more a nuke instead of a battery and if you want her in that role you have to check burst gen of the units in your team
Why are u running scar into bay
That first team prob dies to fast enough scar
I used to win against it. And then i changed to vesti to get a easier win.
Scar trina prob shouldnt use noah either
he can also just use biscuit/noah/vesti against the same team or nuke cindy team but cores...
Seems u were prob winning a bad mu with brute force but ur opp finally got enough defenses that they stopped dying
or use bayT/helm against cindy, burst with trina for b2 and play cindy/biscuit against vesti
But now, I can win easily from his second team and his third. But, for both i used Vesti. Now, i need to find another team to either win the second or the third one. The first team i know i cant win.
do you have bay treasure?
Unfortunately not.
That t1 should really just die to glass scar with trina rh centi jack
how much elemental dmg on your vesti? can you kill blanc with her first combo?
Already tried... Doesn't worked.
Hold on let me check.
if you want 3 wins you can spread better your units, for 2 wins just don't use noah p1 in scar team
I cant kill her, unfortunately....
emi or laplaceT?
I just want to win. Doesn't matter if are 2 or 3 wins
No emi, but i have LaPlaceT
then just don't use noah burst instead of trina, did you try scar nuke against cindy team?
Yes, Scarlet dies before she bursts. Trina wont hold her.
you can test
blanc/cindy/biscuit/laplace/rumani
noise-noah/helmT/vesti/rapu
scarlet/trina/rh/centi/jackal----- liter/trina/scarlet/centi/jackal
Hold on. Let me try...
check cp
this seem simple to me 
team 2 Rumani Nayuta Cinderella Biscuit Mihara
team 3 no change
is enough nayuta burst to destroy bay cover?
wait... that team is really slow should be fine
Nayuta definitely enough to pop Bay
Only on team 2? or 1,2,3 respectively?
Nayuta is strong enough to put defender under 50% HP and trigger Biscuit 
if you really want you can even put Mihara p2 instead of Nayuta so she doesn't take unnecessary splash damage
since Mihara is gonna die anyway
Rumani Mihara Cinderella Nayuta Biscuit
cindy round 1
helm 2
scar3
hmm maybe the Helm charge shot is kinda scary though

maybe change to a non-fire B1
but you can use kuwon teams first
k
Moran feel a bit slow though with only Biscuit burst gen
but there is 0 threat to your team tbh
they have 2 unit that can even splash p2
and they can never kill Moran in 10 years
was nayuta p2, no? it doesnt matter if she take dmg, you want to burst and kill bay/moran fast
I mean Nayuta can die eventually to Bay + Trina
if Mihara is in p2 she dies to Helm burst and now nobody on your team can ever die because they are all single target
and they cannot get over p1 wall
then just use blanc if you already have biscuit in the team, they can't reach p3~p5
it is up to you, you can put Noah team 3
not much difference
there are plenty of ways to beat his teams
the game is really boring right now, no way to defend, the same teams work against many different comps and nothing to do unless you whale
you just pick which flavor you want
Any flavor for me, since it works.... It's good enough.
For Scarlet OL, should you be trying to get multiple max ammo lines or just one, cause I think I have seen both as recommendations (something about like 30 ammo being the goal). As for the rest, just crit and atk right?
First try.....
Nayuta bursts?
The humble Cindy p1 mihara p2
yes you don't want Biscuit burst
Here goes nothing....
depends on what you use scarlet for.... pvp you want* 1 ammo line at 60% and 4 atk lines+crit rate or dmg; more balanced builds get elemental dmg (normal pve build) just to use during electric weak raids/campaign
only scary thing is Rumani might get one-shot by Helm charge shot cuz fire 
Thanks!
yeah fire p1 is mistake
both, so I'd rather my scarlet just be tailored for pvp
should've not been a fire 
Chat has anyone tested this variation?
Let me post the replay. One sec...
keep good 3rd lines if you get something like atk-crit rate just to build around that, or the ammo line you want or even 1 for ele
if i remember... cindy p1 is only good in some atks, and with cindy p1* that means blanc is also "p1" against a faster team... not good
for CA or sp?
CA
rumani have the siren problem... but is all random and blanc is almost the same but without the burst gen issue from a stun on rumani
His second team even bursted a second time.
miharap5 only work against SG in DEF but doesn't have the problem against teams without dmg or full dmg to p1
what cube does vesti use in pvp?
your highest lvl cube, you can use cs to reach some speed points or resilience because pve- low ammo vesti
Thats why I wanna try mihara p3 there, she'll still get splashed to death like normal but also she wont lose to normal fire teams cuz cindy burst
are you buying hits? you can try the teams i said
it should be fine, but is weaker against nuke teams, because you lose rumani
Sure, why not... Already spend 800 gems yesterday on him....
I might lose rumani
Same chance as p3 rumani
Will do. Hold on
do you have scarlet or only sbs?
Both
how good is your scar?
It's good. kept using her on pvp since forever.
noise/rapu/helm/vesti/noah....should be better than noah p2
Wait your Mihara have less Atk than Nayuta so she got Helm bursted instead 
wut
3xclip sg, naga, rosanna
Noise Noah Lib Helm Laplace
Scar trina siren centi jackal
Look where Helm burst land 
Lib obliterates bay tho 
i still don't test lib
So whats it mean when someones listed combat score is 30k below what it should be?
Got someone in my special arena league whose team values are
55138 + 67809 + 49504
which adds up to 172451
but their 'total value' listed on the selection screen is 147359.
Im sorta new to PvP so im not exactly sure why/how they're able to seemingly circumvent listed score totals? :V
It’s just delay and didn’t update
cubes or the old cp bug
They either change their team or leveled up
then its a 3 day delay cause that discrepency been there since monday.

or sunday
I ignored them sunday for other choices. and yesterday, 21 hours ago, i fought them n lost hard. their #s are still not aligned.
CP bug?
@lone sequoia
noah p5
or you can use seb teams, those also should work... he said i should have faith in him
So: Noise-Rapunzel-THelm-Vesti-Noah.
Well.... Here goes nothing...
Would say something?I didnt attacked yet
Nah........
Posting the replay... One sec...
now seb teams... remember to always try to test just to get info :v
I still can’t believe your Nayuta ate Helm burst instead of Mihara 
That was too funny
i already blocked it, that is like +2 atk lines more than mihara
Because im still trying to get loser frame but also aiming to win
once you get both frames you're FRREEEE






