pvp-arena

[onyx scaffold]

11% is the breakpoint for 2RL b2 to burst at pos 1

http://nikke.top/

[untold brook]

@onyx scaffold ty

[oak hatch]

Alright thx

[mint kite]

Damn, I didn't realize this guy was a gemmer too

I can sit through him, though. He generally only plays once a day. Assuming I'm not being stupid with my tokens

[onyx scaffold]

"too"

[mint kite]

...look at my defends below

[onyx scaffold]

yeah i did

[untold brook]

is this 2.5RL at best?

[onyx scaffold]

can 2RL with quantum cube and some CS

[umbral belfry]

bursting first with helm rather than lib = instant lose to slow cindy

lib first is the way

[onyx scaffold]

agree. but bursting with lib first is a lose against same team but helm burst

i didn't say which one better

[umbral belfry]

I'd need to see to know

aren't both blocked either way? then it's just a rh vs rh shootout

[onyx scaffold]

i only copy

[onyx scaffold]

u can barely stall for 2nd burst without helm lifesteal

[untold brook]

i was going to burst with lib first in most cases seeing how the team works now. was just asking about a general team. ty for insight though

[umbral belfry]

I'm not so sure with moran dr helping

but I can't prove it

[onyx scaffold]

also if u use lib for 2nd burst, u can nuke while RH shooting

[umbral belfry]

I wouldn't even use lib 2nd burst

I would lib 1st burst, then rh 2nd cycle

or just helm 2nd cycle with rh b1 and b2

[onyx scaffold]

wouldn't 2nd cycle be better with helm?

yeah

[umbral belfry]

I prefer rh 2nd cycle but that's just me

[onyx scaffold]

because if enemy bursts 2nd with a nuke (lib)
rh burst is worse

[umbral belfry]

[onyx scaffold]

tbh i think both have their countered. i just use 2rl helm rh centi

[umbral belfry]

if only there was a team where you always win

[onyx scaffold]

no CS lib

(idk if she has cs or not)

[untold brook]

how much CS should lib have? 12?

:)

[onyx scaffold]

why 12

[untold brook]

im joking

[umbral belfry]

iirc for pve she wants a lot of cs

so if that overlaps for pvp

[onyx scaffold]

it is because people dont do enough math for pve

they dont know the breakponts

[umbral belfry]

[onyx scaffold]

so they just aim for "the more the better"

[onyx scaffold]

idk all her breakpoints but 10% min

another breakpoint at 21%
u should check it with nikke.top

wtf is this delay

this stall team burst already

[final wedge]

this CA is bullshet....

last 2 season i went 64 cuz fighting the champ on dat season

last season i cant pass top 64 cuz i got sooo unlucky with the comp formation

and this season.....my group is filled with top ranks....

hows is dis balance?????

[onyx scaffold]

for the prev season and this season, i won't be able to meet the winner until the final battle

shift up gives me chance to be the 2nd place but i fail

[final wedge]

So balance

[umbral crown]

@umbral belfry

[onyx scaffold]

me: siren, im gonna bur...
her:

[umbral belfry]

stop

[umbral crown]

[umbral belfry]

[umbral crown]

How you doing hime, still alive ?

[gritty ridge]

Hime which of the 3 walls is the strongest

[umbral belfry]

alive and well

[umbral belfry]

jk idk im half asleep

[gritty ridge]

Sleepy gamgam

[umbral crown]

Nice

[gritty ridge]

Ill feed you hot porridge

[umbral belfry]

[umbral crown]

Im hoping rail defeats the boi so we can fight again in top 16

[umbral belfry]

lock in

[final wedge]

Btw...last time i use :j0rk!n: i got banned for 8hr...becareful

[umbral crown]

[umbral belfry]

that's what you get for j-wording

[umbral crown]

I wanna think they were going for loser frame like me

[gritty ridge]

My bets have been going weird

Normally id be drowned in red here

[umbral crown]

they trust

[marble saddle]

@gritty ridge you think this'll work? top are opponent's, bottom are mine

[gritty ridge]

Yeah that looks pretty good

Congrats on learning how to cook

[marble saddle]

credit to railtracer hippos and a few others

[spiral onyx]

This morning

Now

[marble saddle]

@gritty ridge@tropic summit

how tf my t2 won is surprising. i wasnt hoping for a siren stun at that point but Man.....

[azure star]

Talk about cutting it close

[marble saddle]

nah t1 and t3 worked as planned.
t2 was just me being weird
no one uses moran teams against vesti indom

but i saw the 3RL and blanc's position and figured meh might as well use siren to stun blanc before she pops indom. tho i was expecting it to fail

[azure star]

I loaded into a match before and my scarlet was half hp out of gate

That Moran team is nice, I Havnt invested in her, I would be forever depressed that I wasn’t playing at the time of that cute skin

[marble saddle]

yeah moran is one of my best units for PVP but she got finished after Vesti so her time had passed

[azure star]

I mean I have spent vestis weight in rocks and Havnt got a single charge speed line. So she’s on my bad list

[coarse lake]

finally decided to max doll my soda, trina, and jackal

rewarded with the most insane doll luck I've ever had

[marble saddle]

[coarse lake]

costs for each unit total to go from sr5 to sr15:
soda: ~15 blues (didn't count)
trina: 6 purple 10 blue
jackal: 2 blue 6 purple

none of the 3 ever saw sr6 or sr11

[azure star]

My Laplace got too SR14

Then Cindy got back to back 1.2% blue yolos

[swift mango]

People flexing doll luck when I have none.

[coarse lake]

you'll hit your lucky streak eventually

[swift mango]

My luckiest was 3 SR 15 in a round that only need to get to SR6 and SR11 before Crit. 🫃

[coarse lake]

that's pretty good, esp if you didn't use golds

[swift mango]

I don't use gold before sr7-12 unless I'm out of purple.

[coarse lake]

damn, then that's pretty good luck

[river dune]

Can anyone help me with this one?

How do I beat this guy?

[onyx scaffold]

thinking u can win 3-2

[spiral onyx]

What's the losses? I haven't actually given a proper look at the teams lol

[onyx scaffold]

team 3 and 5
this is his as attacker

yours

so game 3, your mihara will burst versus his cindy

game 5 both are 2RL, he has helm so i just prefer his

[spiral onyx]

Stupid Mihara

Why doesn't she die faster

Gonna just put her in P5 next time

And yeah my Team 5 will probably lose, especially with the Pascal and Anis handicap

[final wedge]

lmao....this shud be xpected tho....Siren stun vs P1 B2 is liek 100% guarantee, so Biscuit ended up bursting instead blanc

[marble saddle]

I've tried this type of team against another p1 blanc team but that was 2rl so siren stun didn't proc before indo

Hence why I was skeptical

[final wedge]

when i see Biscuit + Blanc, my instinct went "it shud be at least 2.5RL"

so most likely blanc will get stunned and cant burst

[final wedge]

I mean without those uber RL booster tho

If with helm or emi, ill check 1st

Especially emi

[trail pond]

heres the nikkes I have but I have a drop off where past like the litter/blanc area my cp goes from 32-50k to like 17-20k and after sora my cp drops again to like below 14k can I get help forming defense teams for sp arena

[onyx scaffold]

scarlet blanc trina centi jackal
laplace/emma (tactical)/Vesti (tactical)/ada/Eunhwa (tactical)
nayuta redhood rumani anis drake

u wont get good defend teams without putting overload gears on them. this is why early game pvp still suggest auto-teams

[trail pond]

the only team there with even half decent cp is the tird one

[trail pond]

I don't think these teams work but my auto def teams are also not doing good at all

[onyx scaffold]

it wont work for now. u need overloads

hmm

[trail pond]

what can work for now

[onyx scaffold]

maybe i should fix team 2
it is not worth overload some of them this early

[onyx scaffold]

let make 2 teams then

scarlet blanc centi rumani jackal
nayuta vesti liberalio redhood ada
auto team 3

[trail pond]

I don't think the first team will work but the second probably will

I don't know if the second team is fast enough tho since it seems a bit slower

[onyx scaffold]

Good luck

[onyx scaffold]

Can try to swap redhood and rumani to balanc cp and speed

Put Poli slot 1

[trail pond]

didn't exactly balance out the cp

will swapping ada or lib for jackal work or no

[trail pond]

even if it is less optimal I think swaping ada and jackal would work and gives me this

is that bad or ok?

[onyx scaffold]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/946720097031045161/1395258071537680534/a0cb388b-4af9-4bf2-8f98-609f4d4560ab.webp

[onyx scaffold]

jackal is to prevent your scarlet from getting killed

anyway man. u dont have the investment for the mode.

[urban mulch]

scarlet in p1 without trina or jackal

[gritty ridge]

Ez dub

[blazing stag]

What are the current meta PvP teams? For both PvP modes

[vapid lake]

Read pins

[blazing stag]

I only see defense teams

[vapid lake]

Because attack teams are specifically tailored to each opponent's defense

[blazing stag]

oh i guess that makes sense

[patent sail]

[charred wedge]

[green nacelle]

Naw man the official strat is to fight someone below your cp

80% will work

[river dune]

Whale be upon ye

[swift mango]

🚫

[misty finch]

Does vesti alt bypass blanc imdom?

Or did my blanc just die before she bursted idk it looked like she burst

[onyx scaffold]

Blanc is wind and wind is weak to fire (vesti)

Im not surprised if blanc got murdered

[onyx scaffold]

Blanc Mihara Cinderella Biscuit Rumani

[marble saddle]

will this work?

i think t2 will die cause of mihara dot tho

@swift mango

would putting rapunzel in t2 save my t2?

[onyx scaffold]

u have enough cs on vesti?

[swift mango]

maybe maybe not. Butyou have more chance with rapu against Midhara yeah.

t3 is risky

t1 is fine

[glad meteor]

Third fight is iffy. Ally blanc and enemy noah could just die lol

[onyx scaffold]

team 2 u might get destroyed by mihara dot dmg.
team 3 u wont reach 2RL. your blanc will be killed before bursting

[marble saddle]

also never mind. i said wrong cs on vesti

[onyx scaffold]

i think u need at least 21% cs lol

[marble saddle]

isnt that like 3 Black CS and 1 4%?

[marble saddle]

would now my vesti die?

[onyx scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/it-is-what-it-is-shrug-will-smith-idk-eh-gif-16144939

[glad meteor]

Vesti and laplace is enough pressure to potentially kill any p1/2 without biscuit/moran

[marble saddle]

would that even apply to a SR 15 noise?

[glad meteor]

Yeah, but its all investment depndant on whether they have enough dmg

[marble saddle]

ive realized my problem for t3 is a lack of cs tho

[ruby iris]

How can I improve these SA defense teams? I'm starting to lose in defense, maybe because of their rosanna team idk (the second one has charge speed on lib)

[marble saddle]

@onyx scaffold what about now? ive given up on t3 can t1 and t2 win?

i think helms burst will give me life leech to combat miharas dot

[onyx scaffold]

Team 1 can.
Team 2 wont. Your Helm will nuke Mihara then damage Rumani who cannot die. Enemy Cinderella will nuke your whole team.
Teeam 3 I think b2 Blanc wont keep her surviving

Delay your burst in team 2. U dont need to try 2RL there. If u dont kill Mihara, she will get indom and enemies do no damage. And then u can even make 2RL on team 3

[tulip quest]

blanc sometimes activate burst and die at same time happened to me but her burst didn't activate according to Nikke coding

[glad meteor]

I think this maybe works

[ruby iris]

Guys, is it better if I use an invested Lib (MLB, better gear with cs) in Vesti (2 stars)'s place?

[marble saddle]

wont rossana is t1 destroy me then?

[ruby iris]

Idk why I pinged you lmao sorry

I wanted a separate message

[glad meteor]

Xmaiden is defender

She doesn’t get nuked by rosanna

[marble saddle]

yes but shes not built with atk on my ol stats

[glad meteor]

She doesn’t need atk OL, just skill investment

[marble saddle]

my only good defender nuker is cindy

[marble saddle]

lemme check whats her skills then

[marble saddle]

is this high enough

[glad meteor]

[marble saddle]

yeah ik its not 10/10/10 yet

[glad meteor]

I mean it should be

[marble saddle]

well before 2 weeks ago i was a pve main

so 14 days not enough time to get every pvp unit to 10/10/10

[glad meteor]

This should technically be easy win vs t1/2

Siren stops rumani from getting rumani any burst gen

[marble saddle]

ive made these in respect to deepink's advice

[glad meteor]

T2 idk tbh.

T3 depends on auto atk dmg

[marble saddle]

#pvp-arena message

@onyx scaffold what about now?

[marble saddle]

wait a min. you might be onto something. theres only rumani as b1 in t2

and if siren stuns her i could delay the burst even further

can bay even tank a nuke from cindy?

[glad meteor]

Bay can but not if she loses cover but in a ideal scenario. Enemy doesnt burst

[marble saddle]

meh ill give it a try. not like im getting anywhere by myself

[onyx scaffold]

I tried to give u hint but ig it was not that easy

Should follow K tbh

[marble saddle]

i did try to reduce my burst gen on t2 tho. just couldnt figure out how to reduce it even further

4RL

maybe if i added blanc or nayuta to t2 i could have reduced it further

[marble saddle]

yeah happened as you said

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-jam-stonks-stonk-jam-head-shot-hans-gif-21157324

[marble saddle]

[quick lake]

isnt xmaiden 4/10/4 for pvp

cs + atk is nice for her

[hollow lagoon]

I’m poor no skill mat

[quick lake]

[hollow lagoon]

U can technically 4/4/4 her if u don’t run with much electric units

Just lacks everything tbh

[brazen nova]

i just got strongest shield, pls help me build my pvp team

my current team

my def team are little bit diffirent

builder don't have liber 😔

[onyx scaffold]

?

[onyx scaffold]

shift f5

yours is outdated

[brazen nova]

oh nice thanks
any change i can make to add Best Shield?

[tropic summit]

le triple winneroni

[onyx scaffold]

maybe team 2. 3RL is slow

that blanc will be nuked before bursting

[brazen nova]

so focus on building Noah then replace Blanc?

[onyx scaffold]

check pin
team 1 is not safe either

[brazen nova]

look kinda better

[onyx scaffold]

when making teams. u need to imagine what your opponents will use to hit you

dont use charge speed cube so randomly

[vapid lake]

Anyone got the pvp nuke % chart with nayuta and lib on it

[tropic summit]

maybe @quick lake

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

Soon ish I’ll see if I escape the top 32

[tropic summit]

believe in RNGods

[vapid lake]

Where rheax

[hollow lagoon]

Looks like

Gonna have to see if my scarlet can clear slow Cindy kind of deal

Well it’s a double buff scarlet

Well this one’s prob dead

[vapid lake]

me go sleep someone ping me with the chart if they have it
I wanna see if a funny rh b1 + nayuta nuke comp is possible

[tropic summit]

very possible, iirc the only time lib isn't lethal on single buff is against noise + anchorIM

[hollow lagoon]

Anyway

@tropic summit

[vapid lake]

not lib, nayuta nuke

[tropic summit]

oh i don't think nayuta can be lethal against non ele weak, although gets very close to it

2RL nayuta on RH buff is actually quite pressuring

even more so if you've early dmg from emi/vesti

very likely lethal on p1 p2 p3 at least

[vapid lake]

[quick lake]

Lib + RH should kill all.
Lib should win Noise buffed opponents
Nayuta + RH is like ~75% of opponents HP

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/perfection-perfect-michael-fassbender-magneto-x-men-first-class-gif-2260686001358167676

[quick lake]

Hmm yeah, Lib alone is = Scar + Trina nuke

[tropic summit]

stronk jelly

[hollow lagoon]

Sleepy jelly

[vapid lake]

me on my way to roll 4 black atk line nayuta

[quick lake]

Kinda tough

[vapid lake]

me on my way to core 7 both nayuta and rh too late

[quick lake]

Sad Nayuta copium does not fully work

Oh, i forgot to convert RH atk into supporter atk

but still not enough it seems

[quick lake]

Hmm technically if u have LaplaceT/Emi/xmaiden autos, u can kill when Nayuta bursts

[vapid lake]

nah forget it, dream dead

[final wedge]

dat Vesti team look interestin....

[swift mango]

Crit

[quick lake]

4x crit rate amirite

[swift mango]

Rossanna also need Crit it's same things.

[final wedge]

i got similar ideas back there....i tried burstin with B1 RH and Helm so my Vesti can just do normal dmg while lifestealin....turns out its bad

[hollow lagoon]

[hollow lagoon]

Helm get Ada buff, Ada get lib buff, lib get helm buff

[swift mango]

Supporter atk is low. RH atk buff is enough, get her 8 crit 4 ele.

[final wedge]

isnt Ada skill 1 need to have the 2nd cycle of entering FB to work?

i dont think Ada skill 1 can trigger on 1st entering FB phase

[onyx scaffold]

looks ez

[final wedge]

since...nobody did FB on first entering FB in the 1st cycle

or....PVP went different behavior with dis one?

...cuz i havent play around with Ada on PVP like....at all

[hollow lagoon]

Idk Ada s1vs crown s1

[onyx scaffold]

wondering if i can burst -. -

[hollow lagoon]

If Ada works it works if it don’t work I locked in already so no point thinking

[final wedge]

hmmm this might look weird...but lemme try it on rookie

[umbral belfry]

bully

[glad meteor]

It should affect the b3 bursting in the burst cycle, so should trigger in first burst

[swift mango]

no

[swift mango]

Noah

[shell hazel]

die bear!

[hollow lagoon]

What in the universe

I beat the vesti

[shell hazel]

haha my vesti lost to a similar team

[hollow lagoon]

Oh shiiii

[shell hazel]

curious to see what happened here

[hollow lagoon]

lol slow Cindy killed my scar team with Mihara dot

Dang

And my sg lost to a stall

@cunning crown

[shell hazel]

feels like I got isekaid into the more difficult CA bracket 😄

almost no one here below 500 commander level

[cunning crown]

Next one kinda rough for me but we continue

[unique wagon]

Ho

Hoho

[shell hazel]

fighting the scrappy guy from my SPA next, they won last CA

[cunning crown]

Oh I'm excited for this

Inspirational win over tenshi last time

[shell hazel]

I beat moran guy and tenshi last time I won hah

my matches from this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhUPJeKuHlM

[noble hatch]

i'll only create and post the video after confirmation so that I can vote too

brb in 20mins

[crystal flicker]

Are we gonna meet at top 8

[umbral belfry]

yippie

[onyx scaffold]

someone copied my prev season teams and beat the 5-time winner @umbral belfry

[umbral belfry]

[onyx scaffold]

my 2rl noah keeps getting slow cindy

[crystal flicker]

Chaos

[umbral belfry]

sounds like me this ca

[crystal flicker]

These mfs just cp pad me lmao

[umbral belfry]

expect my slow cindy ran into 3 moran noah in a row

shoulda added lib

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit @shell hazel

[placid bloom]

you are gae virgin

[shell hazel]

it's a maybe!

[hollow lagoon]

Not confirming or denying anything

[shell hazel]

seems that nayuta + sg on def had the advantage in the end vs mirror

[onyx scaffold]

cuz u look the most vulnerable guy in the options

Check your cp and others

[hollow lagoon]

Comp testing

[shell hazel]

it's pretty clear that voice of reason is me and prime evil is railtracer

[onyx scaffold]

anyone wanna help? im dying inside

[hollow lagoon]

Yes

[onyx scaffold]

t1: right. mihara does nothing against blanc and cindy is already nuked
t2: rng but favors left
t3: favors right
t4: right
t5: left

im cooked

[shell hazel]

I agree looks like you dead

[onyx scaffold]

i should go sleep now

[shell hazel]

some rng can always swing a match in unexpected ways but I concur with likely winners you said

fast enough lib can one tap most of the slow cindy for t1 anyway it's one of the weaknesses

fast aoe nuke

[shell hazel]

guessing 4 time winner guy made it to next stage?

[onyx scaffold]

that is 195k cp lib

[shell hazel]

[heady peak]

What is the 25% on the lower left corner of Emilia?

[shell hazel]

charge speed

[heady peak]

aaaaah

[hollow lagoon]

Yep

[heady peak]

how come it doesn't show that with other RL

[shell hazel]

booba whale made it also

[hollow lagoon]

It is what it is

[noble hatch]

50%-50% 😆

[shell hazel]

and moran guy fighting @dim escarp whale union mate

[ruby iris]

Going out this way is kinda sad...

[noble hatch]

Making video now, its on its way

[heady peak]

Wait... Nayuta is actually pvp viable? wtf

[shell hazel]

hello you in my bracket 😄

[heady peak]

explain to me why this team works.... I'm confused.

[ruby iris]

Oh damn yeah

[dim escarp]

[shell hazel]

i'm Tav group 2, fighting previous winner next (they're in my SPA)

[heady peak]

it looks like a literal normal rosanna team.. but why the Nayuta?

[noble hatch]

U're late to the party my G

[heady peak]

ya, very much so.

I haven't been around much lately. working 12's all day every day..

[ruby iris]

Oh... def bad luck fighting them so soon

[noble hatch]

Nayuta has 9 seconds indomitable

[shell hazel]

nayuta is mainly viable in CA not so much SPA

[ruby iris]

I got cooked by her

[ruby iris]

Look at her damn

[shell hazel]

i'm actually kind of surprised they still get into top 4 it's absolute chaos here

[noble hatch]

I'm working 9 to 6, 5.5 days a week so I can squeeze sometime for last min update

[ruby iris]

Wow zero is cooking

[heady peak]

aah indom... 9 seconds. Makes sense why in CA. Same reason Rosanna teams in general are useable here.

[noble hatch]

https://youtu.be/o2zySPM6gqw

I got u here cuh!

[heady peak]

thanks ❤️

[shell hazel]

both the low cp guys are scrappy fighters

punching 30-40 sync above them lol

[noble hatch]

I use both Nayuta and Liberalio

[hollow lagoon]

Welp showed the #2 of my bracket “you ain’t on my level”

[noble hatch]

W

[heady peak]

Lib is your burster?

[ruby iris]

Yeah ahaha I'm fighting with a 20 lvls max deficit (besides the first one that has a 60 lvls gap from everyone lol), 40 levels is crazy

[noble hatch]

My fellow SA ranker 3 is beating up the previous CA winner, W

[shell hazel]

my lib dies in basically every match

[noble hatch]

Nope, actually my Liberalio is burst gen

and maybe u could say off burst dps

[ruby iris]

My lib has not been useful so far

Just for burst gen basically

[shell hazel]

nah mine neither really lol, every match dead and I burst with helmT instead

I'd not mind but she's meant to be there as flex dps as well just never lives to do it 😄

[ruby iris]

[noble hatch]

@heady peak

[shell hazel]

@umbral belfry how went it?

[noble hatch]

W GVBI

[hollow lagoon]

w

[shell hazel]

@crystal flicker is Rin in group 1 also btw, not aware of anyone else here in our brackets

I got isekaid out of my power of friendship crew

[gritty ridge]

Hi hippo

[shell hazel]

[gritty ridge]

You gotta be in top 4 of special arena the whole season

[shell hazel]

just gain like 21 ranks and hold it

[gritty ridge]

My copium team got its first win in CA

[shell hazel]

what did you run?

[hollow lagoon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1273933998762229845/1406947744009949236/aagiphy.gif

[gritty ridge]

Its beautiful

[shell hazel]

will get harder from this point onwards some heavy hitters, I don't expect more 5-0's

[noble hatch]

You have to get top 4 in your special arena.

[noble hatch]

If im not wrong theres 200 player in 1 special arena

[gritty ridge]

Why not go for top 3 for the most gems

[noble hatch]

Thats why everyone is saying CA is only serving 2% of the player base

[hollow lagoon]

well ca 's reward is union wide, and people get to vote for credit crates

[shell hazel]

looks like you both ran copium teams 😄

they had moran and anchor very odd

[noble hatch]

W bro, but people are watching and supporting from the side. We are all part of CA, personally it feels real great to be in the CA rather than watching so yeah

[gritty ridge]

He was almost running a proper pseudo stall

[hollow lagoon]

it does

[shell hazel]

I still want them to move the CA eligibility to top 10

[noble hatch]

I hope so too

[shell hazel]

it makes a lot more sense than top 4, just make the qualifier league bigger, even same after top 64 etc then

[hollow lagoon]

more weaklings to murder for u

[noble hatch]

It will get more competitive but at least more participation would be appreciated by the community and I must say, some of the rank 5 to 10 are monster in PvP,

[umbral belfry]

[hollow lagoon]

this is too funny to me

[shell hazel]

well CA equalises somewhat not only big whale can win, comp can matter more

[shell hazel]

well you're from one of our colonies, just come back to us 😄

[heady peak]

nice! I never fully read up on her kit tbh hahaha

[hollow lagoon]

canadian

[hollow lagoon]

nah, we bigger land, we can hold all of u

[onyx scaffold]

Bully

[shell hazel]

jesus - bully much!?

[cunning crown]

Always gets me

[noble hatch]

Nikke break us into a group of 200 by your server. I think its good system, you will never be with server 1 who started 3 years ago.

[umbral belfry]

@short moon this one's for you

[shell hazel]

canada is alright place 😄

[hollow lagoon]

me?

[shell hazel]

I'd come along for a bit

[umbral belfry]

no u

[umbral belfry]

no u

[noble hatch]

hahahaha

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/when-when-life-gives-you-tangerines-argue-can't-win-frustrated-gif-13354410622632150541

[placid bloom]

Hime 5-0 unlike gae virgin

[heady peak]

thanks again btw @noble hatch

[hollow lagoon]

i have extra room in my house, if u travel u can stay 2weeks free of charge, tips welcome

[noble hatch]

HolyS bro, u're cooked if u left for a period of time because everyone will pull ahead

[shell hazel]

I won't do it you'll make me sign a union join contract 🙁

[umbral belfry]

kuwon don't have my cheer or I auto lose

[hollow lagoon]

if u stay over 2 weeks u HAVE to sign it

[shell hazel]

see!

Hime save me

[noble hatch]

U're welcome, the community are awesome, always helping each other

[hollow lagoon]

wow alternate universe me got killed

[umbral belfry]

[hollow lagoon]

just stay under 2 weeks

[placid bloom]

this is like when those services tell you to add your credit card number for free trial and then hope you forget

[onyx scaffold]

doesn't matter.
you are attacked not because you are weak.
you are attacked because you look weak.

[shell hazel]

[noble hatch]

I see. I am supportive for Nikke to increase the eligibility. 4 is too small, if they are worried about the whole ecosystem then increasing to top 8 does make a lot of sense, they just have to run their CA system for 1 more day.

https://youtu.be/o2zySPM6gqw

My video is out

[hollow lagoon]

just increase the # of ca brackets and make top 8 or something

participation reward should be bigger for the kind of investments we go into for this mode

[shell hazel]

nah it's even easier really
top 10 eligible for CA
qualifiers of 10 instead of 4
big old fights
top 2 go into CA brackets A / B

10 makes more sense than 8 because of the whole chal 10 thing

[hollow lagoon]

tru

[shell hazel]

or they do top 8 and just double stuff also easy

[hollow lagoon]

or top 12

[shell hazel]

I think that more people who can play is better though

[hollow lagoon]

and make challenger go to 12

[noble hatch]

yes, I am thinking to make things simple, Nikke can increase the league from 64 group to 128, then the promotion tournament from top 64 to top 128, and the champion duel be a battle between the top 16

anyway theres always a 5 days to a week of idle waiting for next CA, so Nikke / SU can always add more days (more actions)

[placid bloom]

they have to add new ugly frame for top 128

[cunning crown]

there should be a losers' bracket after top 32

[shell hazel]

me no english good :9

[crystal flicker]

Hippo Italian too?

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/taking-off-shades-mario-luigi-chris-pratt-the-super-mario-bros-movie-gif-15700143871107015353

I don't look like these guys so nope

[noble hatch]

or, they should let everyone in top 8 or 16 to battle it out, so we can actually know who is the rank 3 / 5 / 7 / 9 / 11 / 12 / 13 / 14 / 16

[noble hatch]

Am I witnessing racism? haha jk

[crystal flicker]

No

[noble hatch]

I can understand you, so u are fine.

[crystal flicker]

I am Villain

[hard raptor]

XD

[gray grotto]

Good, the menace has been finally put down

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit I will no longer be fighting mcfly, I need to know if I can properly avenge him

Im bottom

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/yuru-camp-shima-rin-spaghetti-kazumaozk-italian-nightmare-gif-15808421987992268724

[gritty ridge]

Who are you and where is yonexxi

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/inuyama-aoi-inuko-chiaki-oogaki-gif-16355116409840769149

I saw that

[gritty ridge]

Good

[gritty ridge]

[umbral crown]

@tropic summit

[umbral crown]

@shell hazel @crystal flicker @hollow lagoon

[hollow lagoon]

[umbral crown]

Been telling him we gonna meet in top 16

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/montypython-witch-burnthewitch-gif-5477103

[umbral crown]

I trust the process

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit looks liek u done fked up

[ruby iris]

Win for them (and for me since I got my teams deleted by two 5% HP nikkes)

[umbral belfry]

[umbral crown]

Will Rail gonna get his revenge?

[spiral onyx]

https://youtu.be/eF_lQeN-Wf0?si=8TwpOjrly0kjj5Mv

[umbral belfry]

if you lose you go to the MA shadow realm

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

Imagine to be able to test keripo teams first hand

In my bracket we are just 3 english people, the rest are asians

We have to fight them in top 8

By gurls

[umbral belfry]

[umbral crown]

[nimble swan]

That’s nice lol. Too bad I can’t see the fight

I wouldn’t like to fight @hollow lagoon for example, he’s so lucky he always wins

[charred wedge]

If my Xmaiden started to save me. Should I mlb her during her rerun or keep her the same base?

[mystic rain]

@swift mango

oh u lost to zero

wtf

[tropic summit]

not again

[tropic summit]

~~my CA isn't even fully geared why do i've to fight one of the best in my bracket ~~

[swift mango]

My Vesti team finally got a lose because my Jank build this time.

@noble hatch I cheering for you

Back to grind to finish the event in master duel. Later.

[tropic summit]

direct counter, a classic

it wasn't jank build, it was RNG smiling on the opponent

[tropic summit]

why the F is noah p4 in both

imagine taunting vestiTU into shooting your p4 and p5 wind code units

[gritty ridge]

Shes in p4 for me cuz noise has taunt prio and normally its not an issue. I keep wind out of p1-3

[tropic summit]

oh oke you're on noise taunt prio

then this matchup will look different

[gritty ridge]

Im still taunting vesti to p4, just after noise 2nd shot

[tropic summit]

wonder if their ros is linked or not

if she's not linked you deny a huge amount of dmg

but both helmt and vesti will be on low HP from birst barrage

i guess T1 is ded

[gritty ridge]

Nah I think I win t1

[tropic summit]

0RL 1RL you take p1 p2 p3 dmg
your siren feeds them to 2.5RL
2.5RL ross kills vesti and helmt

[gritty ridge]

I sent a video, its still loading. Youll see why I think I win t1

Wow its taking forever

@tropic summit

Who tf is kimberly

[tropic summit]

here my 50 cent

[hollow lagoon]

[gritty ridge]

I think my vesti teamwipes t1, mcfly has 0 atk and only 40 ele on vesti and he got enemy team to 40% health

I have 60 ele 40 atk vesti

[tropic summit]

that's not the problem, non full HP vestiTU and helmT, assuming enemy has invested rosanna, are 1hitko

[swift mango]

I mean my Vesti is so weak while his is so stronk. I'm the smol one, not him.

🤏

[tropic summit]

i don't think even with equal invest that matchup would look much different

you're walking into a direct counter

[gritty ridge]

I just really hope I win

If I win my top 16 I should get my CA win

[swift mango]

Vesti killed my p1-2 with normal attack.

[tropic summit]

i meant the CA match, not this one

this is just typical absolute BS

[swift mango]

While my Vesti can't kill his Noah with normal.

[tropic summit]

you shouldn't kill noah in 2RL with vesti alone

[swift mango]

I feel so smol now

[swift mango]

There was also Emi

[tropic summit]

ye but they're 2RL with noise

you've 3 rockets from vesti and 2 splashes from emi

if that's lethal it would be just BS on another sense

[swift mango]

[gritty ridge]

Rail are there any matches you wanna see here?

My copium nayuta team clutched

[tropic summit]

think there was one i asked you a while back

[swift mango]

Well, sure I got bad match up but I'm the smol one.

[gritty ridge]

I didnt get to fight either of the 2 I asked you abt

[tropic summit]

ye being sm0l doesn't help, that's for sure

[tropic summit]

rip

[gritty ridge]

Tatsu got knocked out in pools and mcfly lost his top 32

[swift mango]

Somehow I have more synch and started before him but I'm the smol one.

[gritty ridge]

Here's this for you rail. Ill let you figure out if my liberalio nuke was buffed or not

[tropic summit]

cuz this game sux

[swift mango]

🫃

[tropic summit]

it will never reward effort, only RNG and overall invest

[swift mango]

Well, I was joking. I teams was low effort teams and I made them as a joke anyway.

Later

[tropic summit]

it was buffed, you hit slightly before lib was marked disconnected

unbuffed (dead) lib nuke is around generally 50-60%HP on a full HP unit

[gritty ridge]

So youre telling me sbs and bay just tanked it?

[tropic summit]

ye damage reduction, HP plus and damage share were on

[gritty ridge]

Crazy

[tropic summit]

i think it's more crazy lib hits still that hard on nayuta buff alone

[worldly osprey]

[gritty ridge]

My lib is 70% ele 6% atk mlb r15 7 7 7

[tropic summit]

7/7/10 would've been lethal

[gritty ridge]

Do you think lib is worth building?

I use her on kraken and union raid

And as a battery

[tropic summit]

she is, especially for attack

[gritty ridge]

Ill leave her overloads alone for a bit, and work on her skills

[marble saddle]

@tropic summit a moment of your time?

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/gushing-over-magical-girls-maho-shoujo-magical-girl-surprised-disturbed-gif-13120696653143240502

[marble saddle]

can siren stun a B1 unit in a team of 2.5 RL before it bursts?

ik its possible in 3RL teams but im not sure about 2.5

[tropic summit]

siren stuns B2 or B3 on 2RL assuming opponent isn't 11%CS team wide
siren stuns ONLY B3 on 2RL if opponent is 11%CS team wide
siren stuns B1 or B2 or B3 if opponent is 2.5RL

[gritty ridge]

2.3rl however

You've gotta look at framedata for that one tho

[marble saddle]

said B1 is noise so taunt

[tropic summit]

2.5RL noise is stunnable

just like 2.5RL moran

[marble saddle]

yes but i need to ensure the stun is before noise bursts

hold on lemme post the team

the vesti makes it already risky so i need to weigh my options for this

[gritty ridge]

No

[tropic summit]

you forgot CS% on vestiTU

[gritty ridge]

Siren safe

[gritty ridge]

0% is still safe there

That team is at least 2.3rl

[marble saddle]

yeah cause siren will target p1 either way so she shouldnt die

[tropic summit]

are you sure?

[gritty ridge]

Yes, ive tested vesti alot

[tropic summit]

i've no data that confirms 2.5RL via 0%CS vestiTU has p1 siren safe

[marble saddle]

the issue im worried about is if noise bursts before siren stuns my team is dead

[tropic summit]

in this case just change approach to a safer solution

if you've to gamble an attack, you already doing something wrong

[gritty ridge]

Vesti's cs% breakpoint is at 5% and 18%

[tropic summit]

ye but you'd need to know their CS%

[gritty ridge]

I was wrong on the 0% vesti but if they have at least 5% they're safe

[tropic summit]

that's why i said it's gamblin', just change approach to a non RNG one

ABC of pvp in this game, don't take chances

unless you're a gemmer, then brute force all ya want

[gritty ridge]

Moran sr15 or bay treasure next

[marble saddle]

@tropic summit what about this matchup?

im trying to bait their helm into atking my noah and crown

with biscuit both should survive

[tropic summit]

hmm looks good, should out trade

[marble saddle]

thank god

i had to wrack the ol noggin alot for this

[tropic summit]

ensure vestiTU is really your highes atk%

although regardless of who dies, rapunzel will revive and p1 is biscuit locked anyway

(unless it's specifically your rapunzel the highest atk%)

[marble saddle]

huh??? wouldnt helm target the highest atk with her burst?

[tropic summit]

she does... but if you remember we had your liter targetted before

which happened to have more atk% than your vesti

if for w/e reason rapunzel or biscuit have more atk% than vesti, then those will be targetted by her B3

you specifically don't want to lose rapunzel, else the whole team is screwed

as long as she doesn't match the condition of highest atk% in the comp, you're fine

[marble saddle]

so i need to check their base atk and then Ol atk stats huh

[tropic summit]

@umbral crown probably?

i don't think i'll be lethal on vestiTU and actually reach noah pre burst, my SGs are trash

plus split taunting, i guess you're on noise taunt priority

considering my low win ratio on the SGs i might just do a different rosanna team altogether, this season T1 T2 and T5 have been consistent with T3 winning specific matchups, my SGs always suck anyway

[marble saddle]

@tropic summit yeah vesti is highest atk but wont that now mean my vesti will die to helm?

[tropic summit]

that's healthy

you want vestiTU to die and be revived

[marble saddle]

should i put vesti to p5 then since shes p4 so the splash from helm might hit rapunzel as well

[tropic summit]

2RL, top team bursts, vesti is 1hitko'ed
2.5RL team stalls on noah, enemy only has p1 dmg
3RL you burst, vesti revives, you burst, vesti is on crown buff via rapunzel healing crown, kill whoever isn't under biscuit buff
3.5RL-6RL enemy is stuck on indom against p1 noah, they've to dig through with autos your whole team, you outrade

[tropic summit]

helm does not splash, stop taking drugs

[marble saddle]

[tropic summit]

the only splashers there are jackal and biscuit, blanc helmt and cindy only hit p1

to be fair with you, that team is absolutely garbo

[marble saddle]

helms burst had an small aoe effect in PVE
maybe it doesnt in pvp

[tropic summit]

i think their logic there was to go with a team on heavy sustain

[tropic summit]

helm is 1 target only

[marble saddle]

oh you mean their team. i was typing ik my team is garbo

[tropic summit]

it's unclear who they even trying to indom

jackal and helmt are likely linked... but the 3rd linked unit is either blanc or biscuit

[marble saddle]

i think they assumed i was gonna go with a nuke and kill their helm or something

[tropic summit]

if you killed helmt and let them burst with cindy, you'd have a problem

[marble saddle]

yeah ik. which is why i remembered something you said maybe a week ago

[tropic summit]

they made sure to make it difficult for you to kill helmt, because they f*ing put a jackal there

[umbral belfry]

to the ma shadow realm you go rail

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/goodbye-im-out-see-you-trash-hide-gif-16495676

[marble saddle]

"that team looks like it want to sac"
"itd be a shame if you didnt let it sac "

[tropic summit]

@umbral belfry cozy place ^

[tropic summit]

correct

[marble saddle]

anyway now to make a t3

[tropic summit]

do note, noah isn't mandatory in that team, any p1 defender will do, opponent has nothing to hit past p1 as long as you let helmT burst

e.g. centi

[marble saddle]

i think i might have to change my vesti from t2 to t3

i dont see scar killing moran or nayuta

so after that it becomes a fist fight

[tropic summit]

scar or lib 2RL is exactly who should be using here

2.5RL is also fine on double buff

[marble saddle]

but will i be able to kill a buffed moran?

[tropic summit]

buffed moran?

[marble saddle]

trina buffs his moran

[tropic summit]

trina won't be alive

[marble saddle]

🤔

oh yeah i forgot jackal feed bumped me to 2RL

time to go i guess

[tropic summit]

wait

you're missing one point

[marble saddle]

RH not buffing cause of jackal?

[tropic summit]

look carefully at T2

and think about what happens on 2RL or 3RL

[marble saddle]

are you referring to his jackal getting fed by my Crown?

[warm monolith]

Whod lose?

[marble saddle]

sometimes i forget CA exists

[warm monolith]

I can swear that ive seen this line before but i cant prove

[tropic summit]

remember about what i said to make teams with the least possible RNG involved?

glass cannon vs nayuta is a bad idea, so what do you do

hint 1: noah is not needed in T1

[marble saddle]

so replace with another def b2 like centi?

[tropic summit]

when you ready to give up open the above

[marble saddle]

hmm iirc you said something about a sustain team for nayuta

[tropic summit]

sustain or stall correct

[marble saddle]

i dont think ill use indom on t3 so maybe moran vs moran???

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/tears-of-joy-clapping-bravo-crying-tears-gif-15245324

[vapid lake]

ya'll figured out how to abuse nayuta heal share in pvp?

[marble saddle]

i did think about it but i recalled you said using similar comps against each other is bad like indom vs indom

[tropic summit]

the archetype is the same, the purpose is far different

one team is anti nuke, the other is with their legs spread out

[marble saddle]

damn..... i still got alot of learning to do

[tropic summit]

a single unit can change an archetype purpose entirely

although to be fair your plan of using rapunzel to revive on slower speed is a pretty good jump ahead

means you're learning helmT B3 counters

regardless the T2 i'm using as a plan B in case you're not lethal on moran

3RL both teams burst, 4RL both side lib nuke lands, you're lethal they're not as you're on noah shield
2nd cycle if you didn't kill moran, you B1 with RH, B2 with RH, B3 with helmT

[marble saddle]

im pretty sure you said not to use laplace as a B3 nuker but the only other option i can think of for b3 is lib. and idk if my lib is strong enough to wipe them out

[tropic summit]

sigh

this is the part where the student showed signs of improving

and then they say that random BS again

@marble saddle open this, #pvp-arena message

2RL time frame, moran is stunned
3RL time frame, you're B1 on RH instead of moran, B2 noah, B3 lib

[marble saddle]

damn..... i knew i should have taken lib

i was sooo close to figuring it out myself

id be alot more confident if my lib wasnt so bad

[tropic summit]

bah any nuker would do, you could put emi in there

or cindy if you're still 3RL

[marble saddle]

with 0 atk stats?

[tropic summit]

when are you going to build your only few good B3s...

[marble saddle]

oh.... i just realized what you were trying to imply

[tropic summit]

right before i forget not sure i told you yet, don't use cindy in p1 or p2 unless you purposedly want opponent to gain faster burst

[marble saddle]

you want my moran to get stunned

[tropic summit]

p1 cindy gives opponent RL units 1.75x extra burst gen
p2 cindy gives opponent RL units 1.25x extra burst gen
p3 cindy gives vestiTU / emilia 1.25x extra burst gen

[marble saddle]

i was trying to reach 2RL but the answer was 3RL

[tropic summit]

ye siren demerit if she's on slow teams is that she can be actually abused to make you stronger

units you don't wanna burst with can be placed in p1

[marble saddle]

ok so now ik is if rossana then use cindy/defender nuker
adding that to if siren on slow teams use that to benefit

[tropic summit]

and remember cindy positioning to avoid giving opponent extra burst gen

#pvp-arena message

[arctic jewel]

If a 2rl team is going up against a 2.5rl team, both are using Noah and Helm, will the Noah in 2.5rl team be able to block Helm nuke?

[tropic summit]

assuming same CS% teams,

2RL B3 is happening while opponent 2.5RL is on B1

in that case, noah won't be casting in time

[arctic jewel]

Rip

[marble saddle]

is this because cindy unlike other RL units has very little time between her shots?

[tropic summit]

no it's because cindy's decoy, it counts as another hitbox

[keen vapor]

Something has been figured out? Nayuta helm teams?

[marble saddle]

man....... todays lecture has been very phat.

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/mind-blown-boom-duh-no-obviously-gif-17835271

[marble saddle]

im gonna need a few hours to digest all this info

[keen vapor]

Yes, a team with Cindy is a team of 6

[tropic summit]

you're a team of 6

[keen vapor]

Don't hmmz me and answer me

[vapid lake]

i dont know if anyone figured out such a team thats why i'm asking

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

well at least i got to see your discord chat

can't say as much for the matches

[marble saddle]

MFer

that bloody clipper

[tropic summit]

but well we kinda knew how they'd play out no problem

[arctic jewel]

Hmmm, let's say that I use Noah(with quantum)/Moran/Biscuit/Helm/Laplace against Noah/Jackal/Helm/Biscuit/Vesti, will the opponent's Vesti be able to cook my team?

[tropic summit]

uh this matchup is kinda weird

right team has got better DPS but worse stalling, left team has got worse DPS but better stalling

i guess it's gonna be up to moran tanking enough for you to slowly chip them away

the good thing for you is that you're hitting ele weak on link via helmt

[marble saddle]

yeah hold on. i might be slow but i aint stupid (well not obvious)

[tropic summit]

the vestiTU revive is org4smic timing

[marble saddle]

honestly i had always thought helmt nuke was splash but that prob cause i kept using it against jackal links

[arctic jewel]

Ugh... I don't like this, why is my opponent being like this? What would you suggest I'd do?

[tropic summit]

ye helmt nukes links, it's the only case where she'll multiple kill

[arctic jewel]

I don't feel comfortable with my slow Cindy team atm

[tropic summit]

is this SParena or rookie? also you can show your box and let's see if you can run a more stable approach

[arctic jewel]

It's Rookie, I'm currently on my phone right now

So I can't edit the screenshots

[tropic summit]

well if i knew what units you could run i could help you

that team is weak to splashers as you can force them to use both biscuit stacks early, afterward you can outstall with DPS

[arctic jewel]

RH, Siren, Jackal, Noise, Cindy, Vesti, Blanc, Scarlet, Trina, Soda, Centi, Rumani, XMaiden, Ada, Liberalio, Nayuta, Anne, Bay

[tropic summit]

is vestiTU 8%CS?

[arctic jewel]

Yes

Maybe run dittos? xD

[tropic summit]

i'd run this

the logic here is to use 2 biscuit stacks on noah while opponent burns both on jackal and noah

at that point you'll still have 1 biscuit stack post noah shield, and you'll wipe them while they're stuck on p1

p2 and p3 can die after your shield is down

if your biscuit isn't SR5 and on temperance, take it safer with

noah helmt rapunzel vestiTU biscuit

[arctic jewel]

Let me look at my Rapunzel

Ugh... not so good atm...

Barely invested...

[tropic summit]

then get home and post your box

that way i can tailor a team for you

rookie won't run away anyway, take ur time

[arctic jewel]

Lel, ait, appreciated

Yeah, Rookie is whatever, it's mostly to understand how Nikkes work for me, that's the only reason why I'm asking

[short plaza]

did SU fix libs weird buff bugs yet?

[tropic summit]

if lib is dead and nuke lands after her death, the nuke loses all the buffs applied

until that is fixed, you've to use lib with noah or indommed

[arctic jewel]

Decided to go with dittos, won all 5 games, I also noticed that someone else was targeting the same opponent the same time as me, my guess is that he went with Scarlet/Trina/Siren/Helm/Jackal

[short plaza]

I can use her with noah definitely but I wonder if she performs better than Cinderella since I'm using her with noah rn

[tropic summit]

could work if their noah isn't siren resistant

[tropic summit]

situational, cindy nuke ironically lands faster than liberalio atm

[oak hatch]

@tropic summit how do I beat this team?

[short plaza]

what situations are those exactly?

[tropic summit]

noise noah vestiTU helmT rumani if on noise taunt priority
else
moran noah vestiTU helmT rumani

[tropic summit]

there's situation where you want slow cindy and situations where you want a 2RL liberalio

[arctic jewel]

Btw, how can you determine Taunt priority?

[oak hatch]

Noise might die early before burst and let siren stun Noah

[ruby iris]

Do it for us

[tropic summit]

4%CS difference between noise and noah can determine on whose taunt priority you are

noise with faster CS% than noah means noah's taunt lands for last, overriding noise's taunt
the opposite, noah faster CS% than noise, means noise taunt lands for last, overriding noah's taunt

[short plaza]

do you use slow cindy to avoid noah burst or is it for a different reason

[tropic summit]

eh no noise shouldn't die against that team, unless she's 0 ol and on blue doll without vigor or temperance

you can play it safer with the moran team i gave you if you're still uncertain

alternatively

rumani noise vestiTU helmT noah

this way you split tank with rumani and noise, but this still assumes you're on noise taunt priority

[vapid lake]

Time to snipe ur pvp rivals kids

[tropic summit]

@marble saddle did you change ur defs

[oak hatch]

Rip noise died quick

[tropic summit]

you're on deficit?

[oak hatch]

Oh ye it was on deficit

[tropic summit]

[oak hatch]

Went this team after and worked without deficit

[tropic summit]

jackal probably keeps you alive at least to hit 2RL

[oak hatch]

Yeah jackal is tanky on purple doll while noise is on blue doll

[oak hatch]

I was sure this team was gonna lose cuz I was using it on defense so thought my opponent changed his def team to counter it

But seems like my opponent doesn’t wanna show what he’s been beating it with

[umbral belfry]

@shell hazel

[half grail]

Is this Soline good for pvp?

I didn’t even look into her kit yet

[placid bloom]

she is matchup specific counter

[tropic summit]

can make units into pseudo morans up to bursting, niche usage but can be powerful

[umbral belfry]

@dense kindle what cheer you got

[tropic summit]

the main problem is fitting her burst gen and the fact she feeds though

[umbral belfry]

is it me

[placid bloom]

do you owe other people credit boxes too

you scammer

scamming the trust of the ignorant masses

[umbral belfry]

[marble saddle]

yes but didnt matter

[shell hazel]

I'll try appreciate the support 🙂

[shell hazel]

[shell hazel]

Rosy vs Rail again! who will win!?

[vapid lake]

Obviously not the pve main

[shell hazel]

nah pve main can win for sure

but rosy can also win

[ruby iris]

Is it a bad idea to have cindy in p5?

In defense

[tropic summit]

Rosy 3-2 minimun

unless somethin' weird happens

[hollow lagoon]

[vapid lake]

not a bad idea but if u put her P5 then who are u bursting with in that team

[hollow lagoon]

me

cindy always make me burst

[ruby iris]

It's this team

Lmao

[vapid lake]

Then that is correct

[ruby iris]

Alr thx

[vapid lake]

Goal of that team is hope mihara dies to splash dmg before the team reaches fb

[ruby iris]

I really hope they won't notice her

[shell hazel]

only 1 rock today, rail eating them again

[vapid lake]

Im farming gear again i cant farm rocks

im running out of head gear of every kind

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-interesting-watching-you-curious-stare-anime-girl-looking-at-screen-gif-4083899612055226371

[ruby iris]

I'm going with these teams for defense

Liberalio is there just to eat that rosanna debuff

I hope at least

[vapid lake]

Interesting recipe, would be a shame if i copied it

[ruby iris]

Lmao I'll still lose in defense 100%

[tropic summit]

what's rosanna doin' there, aside from cheerleading?

[ruby iris]

Idk I could've gone with siren but she was there last time so I'm switching things up

So they will have to act accordingly

[vapid lake]

I put nayuta in my scar team on defense now just to make it more toxic for ppl to attack into

[tropic summit]

change it into

ros jackal scarlet trina centi

[nimble swan]

Like can you show an example team?

[tropic summit]

if rosanna is linked you can let her take dmg, she won't lose conceal

[ruby iris]

She is

[tropic summit]

anything really, any p1 that you'd usually worry about being too vulnerable can be run with soline in there

[nimble swan]

I see that’s clear then

Still no Soline close to 100 pulls

I think she goes to wishlist

[hollow lagoon]

new years unit selector

[nimble swan]

Nah thats for vesti dupe lol

[tropic summit]

@hollow lagoon i've a question for thee

[hollow lagoon]

yes

[ruby iris]

Realll

[tropic summit]

assuming i wanna do behe at 501 and i've the following built:

s.anis, ein, cindy, crown, nayuta, rrh, siren, helmt

would you think i should run

crown rrh cindy helmt s.anis
or
nayuta rrh cindy s.anis crown (no sustain, i doubt)
or
nayuta rrh cindy s.anis helmT

[nimble swan]

I don’t want to lose a vesti mirror she just became lb1

I should have gone for mlb

[hollow lagoon]

if it were up to me, nayuta rrh cindy helmT crown

[tropic summit]

hmm sounds good, guess we benchin' s.anis

[hollow lagoon]

i benched her for my run
tis was crown rrh cindy helmT Mmast

but nayuta would be more stable than Mmast with extra sustain and her own dps and the aoe clapping missiles

in theory anywya

[shell hazel]

[hollow lagoon]

if it fails and ur mmast is not online then its crown rrh cindy helmT sanis

u would manual burst sanis when u dont need helm's susain for the lightning storm phase

honestly sains and mmast versions were both very close

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

but the machine gun targeting is harder to predict with sanis doing her thing

[nimble swan]

@shell hazel will you end up top 8?

[tropic summit]

well mmast is out of the question so it's either s.anis or without s.anis and nayuta + crown

[hollow lagoon]

i'm honestly feeling nayuta+crown

[tropic summit]

i'd feel nayuta and crown too

[hollow lagoon]

too bad since i dont get to try it untill i reach chapter 42 or something and i dont plan to reach that in 2025

[shell hazel]

as is tradition lately I don't even check my opponent teams 😄

the matches and results become a surprise for me then, truly rng arena concept

[nimble swan]

Well, if u happen to end up there send me a screenshot, i’m curious who’s there in that bracket

[tropic summit]

@nimble swan hippo has graduated from pvp and CA, he's now pve main, doesn't care anymore

[tribal nebula]

Hello, I need your help because I'm stuck in the SP arena against this guy.
I've tried several formations but I can only beat his second team...

[shell hazel]

I will

[hollow lagoon]

the stages are kind vicious at 30% deficit and i'm kind of tired of the malding a bit @tropic summit

[nimble swan]

Yeah we talked this through, he’s transitioning

[shell hazel]

I'm all about the pve life now

building a certain doro summer version lately even

[ruby iris]

I got an LB2 vesti, I can't get the last copy at all

[nimble swan]

I still need to get my frame first

[bleak rune]

What counters this team

[nimble swan]

Selector

[tropic summit]

do you've noise with lower CS% than noah?

[nimble swan]

Yea i want to be top 3% next raid too

[shell hazel]

thing is I don't care that much anymore, I'll still try in terms of sending teams that I either think have a chance to win, or even just to give me some entertainment with experiments

but not really being that bothered if I win or lose I just take it for what it is, auto pilot pvp 😄

[bleak rune]

I do have a built noise, not sure on the CS%

[hollow lagoon]

i wanna fix my summer doro but its gonna cost me dearly to make her water viable, she's actually good for ele neutural

[tropic summit]

show your box, these should be doable

[nimble swan]

Tbh if had won once or twice i would do the same

[shell hazel]

it's a fun opportunity to send home brew teams sometimes. I've done that on 2 or 3 CA's to see how they went

[tropic summit]

then go check because if you've noise on higher CS% than noah you can easily clear this

also post your box, we need to know what you can run

[shell hazel]

yeah keep trying until you get a frame for sure

[hollow lagoon]

2nd win frame is good

[nimble swan]

Or the joy of beating someone like tenshi or moran

Lol

[hollow lagoon]

i'm pertty sure i took them down once or twice

[shell hazel]

i'm sure I'll probably win again, in theory I don't even need to think about it too hard, if I have everyone built it would be "copy previous winner teams" lol

but I like my vesti noise thing and that means I can't copy the rest fully, and my Ada kind of trash atm

[nimble swan]

Tbh i didn’t have shit teams now and my investments are good enough to win imo. But i’m usually super unlucky

[hollow lagoon]

i have the bare minimum of investments

m scarlet is still like, not even 10/7/10>?

[shell hazel]

at least tenshi and moran got yeeted out of your CA

think you should in theory have a bit better odds than before

[nimble swan]

Sad.. but now i’m after Darknet guy

4x CA winner

[shell hazel]

I still dunno how the hell they won 4 times lol

I saw their invests before didn't seem anything special