#pvp-arena
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Meh, it’s my thought derp, helm get Ada buff, Ada get lib buff
Lib self buff

Helm on Ada buff is on mega huge health steal tho
Helm on lib buff
cat girl back

don't the cat
Lib did better than expected
Because lib yeet redhood quick quick
And redhood can’t do cycle 2 because unexist
my scar team yeeted this similar helm/lib/rh thing here somehow
https://youtu.be/eyihCEdyvAY?si=h3YtVDXBNGmgbyNm&t=87

Family man arnt ya
at least he won't have to walk anymore 😄
Black magic
noah b2 then scar like nope haha
lmao
I can read this but 80% of the people can’t
80%? you gotta pump those numbers higher
watch this one zanta, my curious noise taunt b1 centre 😄
https://youtu.be/eyihCEdyvAY?si=CMDpHeb-nN9ypDD4&t=118
And you might fight me
bear first, we fight later 
Left side is Moran,Biscuit,Sbs,Centi,Anis, right side the ded one is Mihara
What abt noah with soline vs vesti
ded
Vesti kills everyone with normals in my case
80%? gotta be way lower :p
Can soline keep herself alive vs scar counters
maybe
Any shotgun vs Scar is kinda dead no?
RNG dependant on s2 procc but in general SGs die to scarlet
2 of my ops have scarlet vs my SG this round
Of course mine fall like snowflakes
well if SGs have rosanna it's a different story
or nayuta
idk the reason but cool? So u wanna speed enemy slow Cindy up a bit or something? Or is it to break up the damage spread from Noah?
My shotgun team has never lost to a scarlet team lol, either my soda or viper dies before 2 rl and i nuke everyone. And also Xanne burst right along with Scarlet so scarlet nukes everyone but Rosanna and then Drake revives and kill everything lmao
I am still testing but it's because noise is only b1
splits opponent focus + it's 2RL so should be able to survive reasonably to b1
so far it's not lost I think
I think it’s valid, I just figured people need a bit more effort to punch through a core 7 noise

@shell hazel got a moment?
sup?
That one guy with 100 ELE VesTac and DrakeT
It’s a weird to get mind wrap around, p1 or p5 is gonna eat first round of sg shots regardless without taunt, so thous still have to be tanky units, Centi and Noah does satisfy, so it seems u solved the jackal less 2rl vesti comp
ik no def can work against a proper pvp main just need some constructive critisism for these def teams im cooking.
That scarlet team too slow
t2 too slow
so increase it to 2.5 or 2?
t3 too slow you relying on someone dying
you already built your rosanna? 
no CS on emi?
opponent doesnt know that
yeah my emi just sucks
RH b1 so ros just there to catch someone dying or not
golden rule either way:
2RL
2.5RL with anti nuke / nuke resistance / B1 pressure
anything slower than that, assume it fails 
im thinking if he uses vesti the first 3 are gonna be dead
Scarlet team relying on shit being dead is kind sad tho u might as well use Emma to guarantee a ded
the emma propoganda continues 

no def is perfect anyway on equal invest opponent can usually win 2 np
unless they doing mistakes
Hear me out
considering the teams he faced as of late, the lad he facing got some pvp fine chef, he'll never defend 
what about now for t1 and t2?
lib on defense as main B3 is on the weaker side, but T2 is now fine
well i dont have a Boda built
fix T3 and it looks decent, move helmT in p5 to get p5 link secured
scarlet on defense is weak unless she has soda/siren/rosanna on 2RL
hmm ok
The problem with ur t1 is ur Blanc might take splash dmg, and if enemy use SG ur gonna indom Centi
put soda in p3 or p4 with scar-trina and it becomes RNG
SG on attack still hit p1
Nvm I’m derp, but sniper pew pew
Still valid
damn link removal and no indom 
yeah and instant burst on first vesti shot
p5 linked unit solves it
soda with no OL Gear? i dont see that rng working in my favor 
needs 4/4/4 4OL, R15
mines 7/7/7, 0OL, R1 
it doesn't matter, it's a risk opponent needs to take, it's annoying because it's RNG
I'm not even checking my next match teams lol, we live or we die
Rail almost convinced me to send soda scar, but @shell hazel convinced me need to fk around and find out for my own good
I mean I'm super unlucky recently
you listened to the dark side
and now we get emma propaganda!
it’s the only time I get to test things now days

it's why I run my dopey noise b1 p3 comp, it's not really what anyone else runs, but I like running it 😄
Helm on Ada buff seems big damage anyway 
CA is just testing for stuff you want to run
ok i did the deed
I would run more standard teams had I know the reshuffle would have me as the highest commander level person in the bracket
needs natural 2RL, that scar team is ded
t2 4% off 2RL 
you can maybe run unlinked scarlet on 98% or 99% 2RL, assuming you get that remaining % via counter, which is RNG
LapT into T2 instead of drake I think would be natural 2RL?
well Scar trina and boda are slow as sin. so that leave me to try and get CS on emi
an option
lib 2RL let's you run noah against it on 3RL, really should pick a different B3 on defense 
most annoying b3 on def is probably vesti in one team and helmT in another
Bless PvP bros
didnt help t3 tho
Gotta keep the little princess happy

No ice maiden?
Meanwhile I'm enjoying the drinks
it needs cs
you gonna glow afterward 
even more on emi and it's 2RL without feed
yeah ik. i got my work cut out for me to fix my pvp
So no Xmaiden
if you can free up HelmT from vesti slave whilst keeping it 2RL you could run Helm moran etc on another team
me? i got her but i never invested in her beyond pve
That’s enough
ok when i say beyond pve i should elaborate
I have a barely rolled Xmaiden on like 1 low roll CS
i didnt roll on her even once. just convert to OL and moved on 
That’s very good
thats good???
my xmaiden doesn't have any CS 😄
U wanna see mine? 

imma be honest with you. i didnt reroll. i just got those from converting

maybe it was a 1 rock roll but even so 😛
this is something new for me
you will never see blue or black line on adding rock
really?
every roll is phase 11 by default
yeah your boots is 3 phase 11 rolls
11.11% atk etc is phase 11, it's the default set
then i prob rerolled 1-2 times cause i dont even remember working on her
more likely yes
TIL you cant get blue blacks on first convert 
anyway yours looks OK to me, just needs a doll of some kind still to work
Man wtf did I even run for my def
she isn't there to main dps usually she is there to battery gen
so BG cube?
don't think adjutant necessarily does much for her
Right my def is @tropic summit ‘s comp
yeah but i only have 5 slots on BG cube so
and since i dont use xmaid enough she got adjutant
@shell hazel does she want sr 15?
M adju is still level 6
i tried to lvl every cube to min 7
kk. im currently trying to sr 15 vesti anyway
you land 2 rockets before 2RL with your CS with or without adjutant
so put BG cube on her?
quantum is better here, or any high tier cube
high tier meaning pvp? or even resi or bast?
resi/bast yeah
kk resi it is
you can hit the lightning icon on the unit at 15% CS
but won't speed up your 2RL like I said
will speed up 2.5RL, then adjutant can be useful depending on team
One person did
what about now?
"look he's stupid he set 2 blue units by accident, i can beat thi- ah fk this shiet"
with soda you need 2 flex proper batteries
so it needs to be 2RL huh
It blessed him with knowledge
what if they also use rosanna and more invested 
*knowing that you above in sync by much obv. not possible but still
Damn.......... 
guys why would a 2RL p2 siren stun jackal instead of noah here ?
Ill test it tonight and send the video
noah taunts innit
it's emi CS but 25% CS is extremely high demand
you need at least 2-3 blue/black CS
yeah. id have to get maybe 3-4 Black CS for that
what's the enemy lineup?
🍿
you can also just make a team without scarlet tbh
Soline is a whole team buff right? Ill have him run sg into scar jack
or you can actually sacc scarlet
ye she heals any unit that drops to that HP threshold
unless dispelled
@shell hazel one last question, what cube is BIS for vesti? Quantum?
aw 
Prob Nayuta Cindy biscuit comp then
that's the defense team, and this is the attack team
ok i see what happened
Yeah so ill have him run 2rl sg into my scar jack
Another day another cope meal
Sir why you not 3%
saving hundreds of rocks for EoS 
0RL
p2 siren shoots p1
p5 noah splash p1 and p2, this noah taunts noah in p2, which then shoots p5, taunting rumani and noah
1RL
p2 siren shoots p1 because enemy noah in p2 is shooting other noah p5
Never will
proudly
it's essentially a situation of multiple taunts redirecting
Rail
I finally get it
I'm free from solo raids
@livid prairie
siren loses noah's taunt by 2.5RL-3RL because noah in p5 is taunting noah in p2
U still need to invest units for union raids tho 
imo resi or bastion, maybe adjutant if you want to hit certain breakpoints
Only need to become water specialist or something
who cares for wind
bastion can work well but more ammo count depending
if you have 8 ammo basic then meh, if you have like 16 ammo or so then it's better
thing with vesti is she fires in batches of 4 rocks
it's charge => fire 4 times => repeat
you don't really care that much if you're reloading on imperfect ammo in PvP
so if your bastion gives you a number of ammo which isn't a multiple of 4 she can charge and then fire LESS than 4 times
ill check on the SR then decide
you just need enough shots to kill the opponent
it does suck if your thing is just like 1 ammo into the 4 though
yeah but that's usually not an issue 
as she'd charge => fire once => reload lol
either way mostly the match would be decided before vesti fires 16 rockets
so noah and noise can only stun 2 or 3 targets depending where they are shooting and not the whole enemy team ?
noise and noah pre burst yes
Why
New Tove meta trust
@livid prairie noah
in any case I'd usually give vesti a dps based cube not quantum
what on earth are your opponents running? 😄
@shell hazel is tenshi running his pepper this time? I have pepper brainworms and must know
No time 
I can check, one moment caller 
Bleeding edge secret tech. Very big brain
do your surface content dailies 

yeah i did not read the skills description correctly
for reference this is noise taunt
Tenshi is dead though 
To read correctly follow this #1400221424475439225
bahaha
well, F, but
I still believe in the power of pepper
having to read in 2025 ain't no way
nearly 2026
Yes way 
I don't read, I use my eyes to download what I'm seeing into my brain
I look at kit and get confused, I need to sleep and reach enlightenment and then I gain understanding

can't believe there's a guide for that
i guess it's really true nikke players cannot read 
do we have a guide that guides you on how to read a guide? @keen vapor
we need a guide on how to read guides
I found him
i thought i just needed one hand to play the game but now i also have to read

Core was kinda looking into that iirc 
Right @wild badge ?
If u gap people by 100+ sync u can kind of 1 hand it i guess
Like the content they have to mald over u can just full auto
What was I looking at 
amen 
money issues
This
being rich is also a skill
Was it you or Fury or other MA?
so skill issue i guess
Teach me how
I think Fury made a "How to read a nikke's kit"
|| spend less on Nikke || 😄
Never read it tho 
would love to

Yes but talking about a guide's guide
interesting 
guess he did stop believing in dr. pepper, think she got subbed for siren
who is max core all + pvp invested
He died because no pepper and he sac mermaid so the bad karma took him to hell
Type into chat gpt:
"I am a gacha game player and do not know how to read. Can you summarize this guide for the game in simple caveman terms?" Paste Selection 
No 

Just type into chat gpt to hire someone to play your account for u
And then u can NIKKE with no hands

Also don have to read
people who kill fish should just die right!?

Looks I finally trained hippos enough that
=fish
any early thoughts on soline?
china already does this, they pay to do their dailies
I know
Pat the head
that is how zanta got so rich! daily farming for cn accounts 😮
turned it into game whaling
it all makes sense now 
How I’m I rich I only have 330k cad in my bank
It’s ok it’s draining fast
I’ll be negetive by eos
How to save money
No SO
No Dependents
Have few friends
Eat 2 meals a day (self cook when possible)
Mmm actually sounds kinda sad no?

Not smart nuff to play crypto
Kinda have to be on tops of news and stuff for that kind of money making
I rather doom scroll cooking recipes
Atleast I can make something with my own hands and feel the results
Making money dosnt bring me joy
giving money to SU does 😄
It sits there,a number that constantly reminding me that my value on this planet is defined by it
I hate it
damn zant dropping some real wise lines 
My boss made 1 million in a month and is suprised when I give him the most weakest of reactions
I could drop dead tomorrow and the money I have will be meaningless, I rather just use it for my own enjoyment
you can say that because you're already priviledged, there's ppl who's dying of hunger or disease or people getting a drone in their face exploding while they go do their groceries, you're fine
I know this
life could be worse, don't worry
appreciate the things that bring you joy and drown in them
Tis what im doing
spend money on what gives you happiness, it cannot be wrong as long as it's within common sense
I’ll spend money to stalk rail and clone him and use his neron pattern to make a NIKKE PvP ai

we probably already have weird dark sh*t around involving cloning/DNA manipulation, we just don't know it yet 
Of course it exists, royalties living to high 90s and hundreds of years while my grandfather drop dead at 60
Man didn smoke or do drug, and was fit and stuff
In pvp is it ever a good idea to have noir burst for your team?
No
The aoe dmg is small B soda has bigger numbers
Unless ur noir is like high attack rolled
fk that sucks 
I guess I will switch my second team later today. I wanted to believe she could be useful for something other than burst gen.
noir nuke is very mild compared to other B3 multipliers, if possible prefer a different B3
although a noir B3 on double buff + ada is a different story
Noir is sad honestly, even for this raid, I tried bursting noir or bursting soda and soda has more dps even tho noir is on ele advantage
Bunny duo treasure incoming 2027 im smelling it
I want Mary Treasure because I dumped a bunch of resources in her in my journey to pass the 160 and 200 walls.
But I will add bunny duo to my wishlist for treasure.
Atleast Mary’s featured in many events
tragedy
And has an alt
Noir is still good offburst. But the context is strange. You can technically get a infinite ammo thing going with siren and maybe bunny Alice, the problem is the only units that can really benefit from something like this are like MGs
And mgs don’t need noir’s hit rate buff
Noir also work for sg but again the issue is her personal damage
And Drake does what noir does but better
@hollow lagoon hot chocolate is yummy in winter
Right, the ceo brought us hot chocolate one day and my manager (who is rich af) asked us how to pour it out of the container
My internal monologue was to have him call Issac newton about gravity
I'm 686294 vs his 758305
Is there some rng I'm not understand on why I lost the second fight?
Crits?
That's the only thing I could think of, wasn't sure if there was something else I might not understand
I think u won first one cuz u ate the Blanc
Ur vesti critter and killed Blanc before they got the indom off?
Given all ur other units lived
the difference is right here
Don't lie, I resetted her
in case to the left, blanc didn't burst
in case to the right, blanc reached burst
move linked unit in p3 and blanc in p4, you'll get it consistent then
Trust in noir winter alt 
I didn’t 
Alrighty, I'll give it a try
Did u reset Blanc?
jackal vestiTU whoever is linked between helmt/ada then blanc then last remaining unit
run temperance on p2 and p3
@tropic summit TRINA IS HOME
Wait
he got in CA 
4/7/7 or 4/10/10 ye
Honestly not surprised you're the one saying that

Wtf no 
Are you perhaps discriminating against bunnies of the darker
fur pattern
Should I sr15 
you did what? @keen vapor 
He reset noir
Noir is never used 

Blanc will leave u
This is a sign
good RNG now means bad RNG on another unit to be
your next pilgrim 
I used my bad rng rolling doll for my irl friend (sr14)
I don’t have mats to guarantee sr-15 on new years unit ain’t gonna spare on PvP units
That said Trina being in p2 a lot sr-15 is a good call
@swift mango do your rookie attempts
Now time to wait for 1 week for her ol fodder to arrive
and then you shall unleash the
Funny how she came only after I lost my ability to do ca
she came back to give you the ability to join CA
surely


How to win 100 sync down 
you don't 
So no 
we're screwed 
Preparing for reshuffle
that's a few months away 
That's more months of saving core dust till February shows me 102/h bump in ch32 without beating mc
Oh look the number 2 of my bracket
he's gonna show you now 
Welp the oppression will continue it seems
How is ozone in my ca.......
He started crown I started cindy.....
@umbral belfry defeat the object 
@umbral belfry
4 more minutes to reset
He needs to let go
that 1 day you've to be gone for 24hrs without internet access 
It’s a China person unlikely
he'd rather pay someone to play his account than skip a day true
More like the general day to day lives of the Chinese absolutely needs internet connection
i might have just seen this red guy in random coop and he picked RH xD
@umbral belfry 
leave me to me 
unfortunate for him bc he's running into my 2rl noise vesti noah 
@short moon @worthy sorrel told me to bully you 
if me and ozone do make it tho p sure I win

idk, there's liter 2 guys named RED in my ca
its one of the most common names
one was my SP rival until the CN horde swarmed him last reshuffle and he ran out of dinks to waste on me 

specifically said to do it respectfully tho 


that just means akrij has to prove you wrong
dont worry, im gonna get filtered tmrw morning
:c if i could click the win button more
if it comes to it, assuming I make it I will avenge u 
wouldn't be the first time i bully tabi 

@tropic summit your team comp for me got me to Dia 1 when I can barely get out of Silver.
I did get Lib and VestiTU and they're on Team 3.
best teams for arena and SP arena??? havnt changed since like 2 years ago 
you forget one day and you'll be behind forever, no 🐋 will help! 😄
you can't defend in sp
@umbral belfry how was quals?
I did yesterday. 2 days before that I didn't though.
made it 
3-2 v someone copying last winner's team and 4-1 other 2
sasuga 
Find their address irl and beat them up
how did yours go
good, I only lost one match and I beat guy who was top 4 last time 5-0 😄

there's some definite 🍿 in my matches against the top 4 guy if you fancy watching it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyihCEdyvAY
sure 
One day, you forgot to do daily and you would let him go. 
How much deficit im in? Enemy is 969227 and im 787525
hmm how's the CP of the upper ranks? if you still in range could try aim even a bit higher
either way i'm glad they worked for you
A few ten thousands higher than me.
There's someone here with 200k though.
start
run
mscalc
your cp / opponent cp
multiply 100 if you can't do that bit in your head :p
969k x 0.846 ? 819k, you need 820k+
*0.846 gives you your min to not be in deficit
but the question is how much deficit are you in.
Rail was wrong so -50 DKP
? he needs 820k
Yeah,i didnt catch that
i calculate how much im in deficit by multiplying enemy cp with 0.846 on calculator. Also,i did run this without checking how much deficit i was in,i just wanna know lol
he didn't ask how much to not be in deficit, he asked how much deficit was he in 😄
oh oke
19% deficit
Oh,allright i win with 19% deficit then
ofc 19% translates to a higher actual stat penalty
Thanks
he's becoming a strong indipendant Bay's husband
Proud of myself with the team
I dont know what gif to send to this masterpiece of an text
using scarlet as sacc to get SBS indommed while also denying siren stun in p1, nice job 
just look after Bay OK?
Actually siren did stun again after full burst but sbs managed to pull it off
Had that gif
And actually lots more
ye that's normal, siren messes with DPS indoms if she's alive


i need a pepper treasure
I want one for quiry too tbh,maybe she'd be a great choice for pvp
time to steal rocks from @shell hazel
it's coming king keep believing

anyway here's 10/10/10/helmT vs 9/4/4 ninja delta (no ols) in union shooting range with crown rapi siren and mihara
what were the 2 teams 
crown rapi siren and mihara + [helmT vs delta]
MG team 
the one area where I beat zanta
look at that gap sir, I can skip more than once and be fine 😄
takes a 🐳 to beat a 🐳
you gotta 🐳 up
🐳
rookie numbers
@shell hazel @tropic summit looks like delta is better on bastion instesad of quantum huh
400m of difference
I can't build Delta
a certain tracer of Rails is taking all my rocks!
a pvp unit? what are they drinking?
no ol so idk what u mean about the cant build part part
second SS is from nikke.gg
I have no rocks, Rail took them
I can't run on max cores I need OL 😄
she has no ol
easy skip but she turns meta 
i've seen this before
not even OL'ed 
I have a copy at least
Zanta not even OL wut da hell
4 x level 3 no OL what chaos is this?!
literal mg tech new meta if i ol
but all these sites say she's skippable
clearly they must be reliable information
zanta when delta build? 😮

rank 1 in global ran her, top scorer, she must be bad 

when i have rocks
just made my xlud 4 atk 2 ele
just buy some smh
clearly cheating!
I need a new defense team to get this guy off my back
what synchro is he and what synchro are you, show their 3 defense teams and yours
i look at her kit and it superior partner with crown over ludmilla and synergize with siren, its a niche pull but a pull regardless, i watched skyj's vid saying skip, but i pulled cuz sexy ninja
waifu is a valid reason 
oh he's the underdog 
you probably have a team scarlettable and a team noah'able
need to make a CP pad without feed and heavy hitters and 2 proper defs
i was doing that for quite a while against my whels 
all max dolls except for anis
post your box next let's see what you can run
he probably learned how to use nayuta/vestiTU or noah+biscuit
I skipped delta then defected to zant's union and pulled two deltas in two days
can I share my blabla?

don't know how to make it not private
take screenshot of your 1st 4 lines it's enough
in the game not blabla
|| in my bath ||
||no in my shower||
forgot about the 10 at the bottom
||
||
||
||
I will refer to my earlier post #pvp-arena message
||basic beaches don't win CA||
Here's the PvE configuration
oke let's see


hai
haiiiii
I am running delta with rosanna but it made sg weak.
this is your pvp brain working you see. delta is pve unit
assemble and show these 3 teams CP
can you zoom a bit? can't see them very well
how you oing

Ohayo


first team has no b2
you sure? look carefully
RH?!
stuffing them all with R15 Resil & R14 bastion
ye that's fine for T1
but show the CP regardless i'm not done building
we can balance T2 and T3
that puts anything below 1037kk in deficit... against your opponent teams:
1052kk
1018kk
969254kk
guess we gotta push it up a bit more
I'm surprised no biscuit
@mint kite is your vestiTU at least 8%CS btw?
only 6.9%
🤏
I could reroll a few times
if you can get her to 8% it increases her burst gen
you could hit 6% and add an adjutant in case
so it's 7% then yep
Ofc
naturally
5% + 3% that's 8CS% vestiTU
@mint kite probably final draft, assemble these and post them again to finalize
I didn't know they rounded up
they're making it too easy for you now
7.78 isn't otherwise at least 8%
he finally ran out of ideas? T1 doesn't win that does it? 
T2 and T3 look ok i guess
not sure whats going to happen with t1 but t2 should win I believe and I know for sure t3 wins
does T3 moran even hit biscuit in time?
i think she gets 1hitko through biscuit no?
I mean thats never happened
holy that's crazy
i guess SGs pallets aren't considered 1hitko in the calculations
I even have had rumani there
dair opponent-kun if you're reading this better try something new 🥱
SBS when moran's involved is generally a bad idea for B3, why not just hyperbuff a lib indom?
since they're using lib, you've 1RL of safety net
Probably because idk fully how lib works in pvp
slap this boy and record it 
hopefully you're not on deficit with that tho
Alice has the worst burst gen, hey?
the deficit team only goes up to 1054kk, their scarlet is in range, i guess you found out how they beating you
She has a really long charge time
they're using noah against one and scarlet against the other
?
1093kk, that's nice
they need to pad scarlet to reach that now at least
run with that and the other 2 meta comps and see if he can still beat them
if he does, we can turn T1 into meta aswell with the logic of expecting a scarlet and a noah enemy team
will do., thanks
team 3 is to dodge siren?
need 1840kk
I guess I fixed it
there's bait there, if he uses noah, your own noah taunts noah in p5, which gets siren to stun their noah
it also prevents running blanc in p1 or common B2/B3 in p1
just adding difficulty to w/e he's running
test the waters with these first, it will give a hint if he's nobraining or using pads
Blanc, Vesti Alt (4/4 Attack line, 2-3/4 Max Ammo line), Rapunzel, Biscuit, THelm
Vs
Moran, Vesti Alt, THelm, Ada, Noah
Can Vesti Alt on the upper down Moran?
@tropic summit
i think 3RL lib should be caught by 2.5RL noah but it's a good test
so you going for slower indom of 0.5RL? opponent is probably lethal at 2RL
i think you're ded upon them bursting
nikke.work says that I'm 2RL with this team using no Quantum?
ye if vesti has 8%CS that's natural 2RL
Isn't it gonna be 2 RL for Moran team if Vesti is at 4/4 Charge Speed (Speed tune)
this is your team or theirs?
this is the other team
Just a hypothetical team comp for Pvp
that hypothetical team is ded because it's B1 against enemy on B3
rapunzel in particular is lethal'ed
no more B1 for the team on 2.5RL
(speed issue)
How about
Noise, Noah, Biscuit, Vesti Alt, Helm
Vs
Mihara, Nayuta, Siren, THelm, Rapu?
hmm this is invest dependant
if vesti is built with 40%atk, it's probably lethal on 2RL on whole team minus nayuta
if vesti isn't fully invested, rapunzel and helm may survive, p1 and p3 are definitely ded
at that point rapu can revive whoever is on highest atk% between mihara and siren and burst with nayuta and helmt
vesti will then be stuck attacking p2, which splash up to p4
Does T3 need some shenanigans to not taunt a P1/P2 Siren?
siren is in p4, noah is in p5
enemy p1 and p2 will be taunted to shoot p5
if enemy noah is run in p1 or p2 she'll shoot p5, which taunts siren
they're thus forced to run noah in p3 or p4 or p5
it's a knowledge check
I mean, if they run Siren in P1/P2
if you're on noise taunt priority, enemy siren will be shooting noise, if you're on noah taunt priority, siren will shoot noah p5
my noise and noah have the same charge speed, which means noah priority, I think
need to see your invest to make proper teams, take a screenshot of your first 4-5 lines of nikke
then better hope he doesn't run siren in p1 or p2
not worth running adjutant on noah?
you can, it's 2% tho
they're both on 5%
those are still gonna be half assed teams, if it's fine for you 
you've already screenshotted your unowned characters. why not screenshot your owned characters?
you can fit more characters on your phone screen if you rotate it to horizontal
SP arena
- nayuta helmt rh emilia centi
- noise noah xmaiden laplaceT rumani
- jackal scarlet trina bsoda drakeT
that's why i asked invest
vestiTU instead of xmaiden
as long as she has 8%CS
emi can use 8% or 25%, although you're on natural 2RL in this case
only vestiTU would need 8%CS to ensure you hit 2RL on T2
additionally as long as rumani is SR5 you can put noah in p5 and rumani in p2
this gives you better outcome if opponent runs vestiTU against it
@upper gorge
you welcome
yep
R15 or SR5 are good stopping points, max invest expects SR15 on your pvp core units
you can use siren, there's several different defense teams with different layouts
Does Vesti run Resil or Quantum in Sp?
once and if your def teams break, you can change their logic and include stun gimmicks
the focus on the layout i gave you is speed and early pressure
those archetypes all involve fast pressure and/or nukers
T2 doubles as anti nuke aswell via noah, T1 has pseudo buffed indom (nayuta)
T3 has SG pressure on p5 and buffed nuker on 2RL, with scar s2 countering any non SR/RL class
siren can work in any team as long as you keep them 2RL or 2.5RL
point is, test these out and come back if they get broken 
it's situational, quantum if you need to hit 2RL/2.5RL thresholds, else temperance is prefered
I double lock rolled a piece of vesti gear to get a higher attack %, it currently has the second lowest roll you can get, guess what the reroll was? the lowest roll you can get. I'm getting trolled
it should balance out at some point... statistically at least 
Thank god gear overloading exists in nikke
I can hate it more than myself
Then people wont spend money on rocks
or they will ballence it on he cn version first
Now I get to wait till tomorrow for custom locks 
Can we get free 100 rocks 

Rolling vesti made me use 1k locls
i didn't pass
21
@tropic summit confirm
Helm doesnt have any big cs%. She already so fast 
Likely ur other RLs will be the slower/limiting cs%
8% for threshold, max is 21%
wtf 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭
knock him

or even current guy 
You used nasty team
Makima, nayuta, biscuit
I just copy paste 
@tropic summit Ty for this Atk team you gave me
, I haven’t lost a single time with team(unless they’re whales) im currently sitting at top 4, 1 can’t get to sit at top3 for long because the guy doesn’t sleep
he just won’t sleep, the longest he let me have 3rd place was for 20mins so I gave up on challenging him it’s not worth I’ll settle for 4th
Did you add him to your block list so you can track when he actually goes to bed
That was a thing?, I’ll have test that strat but I doubt that’ll work im being Frl he’s online like every 30mins Idk how he does it
camper strat 
Yeah block him and check your block list and it will tell you when he was last online
Its how I know when to send a hit in over night
Knock him out to assert dominance 
Knock him up to assert dominance 
Look at ts, he’s online rn like bro sleep
Yep hes just online lmao
but over time you will start to notice when they get off for a while
I really hope so
He's waiting for you to sleep
it's simple, if he stays online 24hrs you just gotta stay online 25hrs
I don’t think it’s a me only thing tbh, 2nd-5th gets the same treatment he doesn’t discriminate.
At least you can get to try
1st in my server has 100 more levels than me
Skill issue
my 1st also a 100 lvl over me but the cp difference is too big, he’s not even running PvP teams
I can see the b1 liter
Who’s? his or me?
His
Grandma still got it
He just went offline let’s see how long it takes him to come back
question about Viper
her skill 2 makes the team re-enter burst 2, but if i never burst with her it doesnt matter if I max treasure right?
cos i need her extra treasure materials to exchange for other's
and the game wont let me unless i maxed it out
Yes. U can choose not to burst with her
Only when you burst with her
ok good
she's just gonna be forever in p4/p5
your pvp units are on the 2nd and 3rd screenshots so i assume none of them are invested yet, they are:
rapunzel, noah, biscuit, centi, laplace, trina, emilia, moran, anis, jackal, noise, rumani
no im listing the other units u need for 3 teams

@quick lake u help us my brain is fried atm
i just need to get to diamond 4, im d6 right now
hows your synchro level compared to top 4?
Noise Noah Centi Cindy Thelm
Siren Trina Scar Rumani Jackal
Nayuta RH Vesti Emilia Noir
@glossy plover
giga whale server
Hmm, tough if opponent is so high sync
Hello I came to ask for advice on PvP teams (I don’t have Laplace treasure
)
Other nikkes I have
Can try the teams I sent. Can come back here for new teams u they dont work
Generally we want
4/10/4 Trina
10/x/x Emilia (some cs% and atk% OLs)
VestiTU 
honestly vesti just means Tvesti here, or Besti
but yeah say goodbye to your Crystals now that ur into pvp
i have exactly 0
Depends on how invested in pvp u want,
But we SR5 all our pvp units
laplaceT, xmaiden are also pretty good
for now i try the 2 fastest comp i can build first
@dense kindle 
what does sr5 mean?
No need to over invest in pvp 
sr5 doll 
I will get lib after 2 days also, need save few mat for her
dont they only go up to phase 3? or do you just mean purple doll everyone?
yes, purple doll everywhere to lv5 sr doll. Ideally max lv15 doll
oh i see, anyway i have exactly 0 maintenance kits for dolls too so i just chill for now
but yeah in your case just make 2 strong teams u already have the damage dealers, peacefully collecting loot is the best way to non-champion arena
Siren Trina Scar Centi Jackal
Noah Cindy Thelm Rumani Viper
Blanc VestiTU Biscuit RH xMaiden
Gotcha gotcha and if it happens I finally have Laplace treasure how can i incorporate her in the team
Hmm, more like a good back up option. Maybe replace Viper if theres enough CP
if Rheax's teams fail, run these as backup (was messing around with your box already)
SP arena
- jackal siren scarlet trina drakeT
- noise noah cindy biscuit xmaiden
- nayuta centi vestiTU helmT RH
Notes: treasure laplaceT, put rosanna back in synchro and finish building her
Rail has spoken
DrakeT 
SG pressure can be healthy, especially fire code
she also happens to be fairly well invested
aight imma start working building ros
that's x2 ammo isn't it
Thank you god 
I think it's doable with 1 ammo? It's only 75% higher than 8 base
ammo goes up to 87% or something
indom really loves ammo, then again if it's enough to keep shooting during it that's gud
Ahh that’s why viper was in the roaster? (I was forced to build drake cuz road to villain
)
well the guy is on Noise Bay, not indom 
ye rheax choice of viper is gud cuz CP pad, she does contribute burst gen and p5 pressure anyway
he is not really looking for a long fight
just a bit weaker as water code is f*ed in arena most of the time
yeah it's up for him 
Bay doesn't block Lib 
Gotcha
I’ll play around with these teams first 
Thank u again 🙏🏻🙏🏻
my Scar didn't even die to his Vesti
his Vesti is poopy weak

only lost because Bay

yeah that's not getting through my stall
the only if is if lib dies
but even then it's fine
both should be decent defenses, make sure you change if they break through 
nah there should be no way, my Scar still 20% HP left after all 4 Vesti rocket 
I’ll try
his stat is poopy bad
baby vesti 🐤
@tropic summit did some poli v nayuta testing
Found out we both have investment issues

@gritty ridge time to 💳
nothing it can't fix 
yeah bigboi just find a sugar mommy to whale for you
he's the sugar daddy, gonna need to find a sugar mommy that can sugar the sugar daddy


Updated some pins. If anyone have better recommendations/suggestions can ping me 
Im outdated on CA meta 
indom vesti or noise noah vesti or noise bay vesti
sg teams with nayuta or poliT
scar siren or scar soda
slow cindy variants (may have nayuta)
nero moran or moran noah (2 burst cycle teams with DR)
Yeah, seems like it. Been losing my CA qualifiers a lot recently 
Also testing weird teams thou 
all my teams look weird compared to the copy pasta ones 
retired rheax 
times have changed 
thats 4 rocks and thats it
i've never seen it happening, if rosa isn't 2RL or 2.5RL then there's already something wrong to begin with
then again considered i've seen cindy getting helmT sniped even though decoy was active, it probably works against conceal aswell
but still has more ammo then yours 
8!!! ammo!!! vesti!!!

8 ammo is good, i just need a build like nekoworki

go give her ammo this very instant... 

but my build is crit, ele and cs
i do not even have atk

thats what she ended up with

Took me 15rolls/30 rocks to get charge speed
Stupid % 
Youre telling me I have a better vesti than the ultimate pvp nerd rosy?
This is ridiculous
nerd

I cant say the word I wanna use
say it 
The male version of hime
h0m0
Nah the other one
Himo?
my vesti has almost 18%
homi
Lmao






