pvp-arena

[swift mango]

I'm losing even before my opponent play I card. I sure am skilled.

[tropic summit]

you love that game anyway don't you

[atomic wolf]

icic

[swift mango]

It's just long time hobby. New yugioh is boring to me. I just jump in to play pet decks.

[tropic summit]

they don't make good stuff anymore

[wise horizon]

Need help here

[tropic summit]

use noah + biscuit archetype with a DPS B3

noah biscuit rh helmt jackal
noah biscuit sbs helmt jackal
noah biscuit rrh helmt jackal
noah biscuit vestiTU helmt RH (8%CS vesti)
...

you don't wanna run scarlet into noah

for the above, prefer vestiTU or RH B3 depending on your invest in said units

[glad meteor]

👨‍🍳

[swift mango]

It's just the game became 1 guy play in their turn 1, if you don't draw card to stop them on their turn, scoop.

New meta decks more ridiculous they start to build their board during your turn 1 before you even play.

[marble saddle]

@tropic summit hello.

[tropic summit]

whoever designed that has a reserved seat in hell probably

[placid bloom]

think me in groups

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

[placid bloom]

nah there is no deck that makes a board during your first turn anymore unless they are really lucky. They might summon 1-2 monster at most but not entire board

[marble saddle]

i think something happened to my opponent

[placid bloom]

and it's usually not super strong monster

[marble saddle]

so please send prayers for him

[tropic summit]

check his last login time

if it's today, he's snipin' your butt

[quick lake]

Cooked last minute

Spent like the last 40min cooking

[placid bloom]

[marble saddle]

he had 1 atk available at reset but he didnt atk me
he has logged in today but no atk so im assuming someone below him atked him and won. so now hes too busy to atk me

one min imm gonna check my rank in SPA now

[tropic summit]

soline cook

[marble saddle]

nope...... something def happened

[quick lake]

Naw

[tropic summit]

change ur teams 2 minutes before reset

[wild hemlock]

Don't say that right after I invested in Lib and put her in my nero comp

[marble saddle]

yeah ik. but hes smart. he just atk at 3 min before reset cause he knows i cant make teams on the fly

[placid bloom]

well Lib is just not good

[glad meteor]

Rail san

[wild hemlock]

Oh I'm orange

[tropic summit]

make them 1 hour earlier, save screen, change teams 3 min earlier

[placid bloom]

she has no good matchup other than slow Cindy

[tropic summit]

who's dat
must be impostor

[wild hemlock]

[swift mango]

Yeah they advertised Yu-Gi-Oh as a back and forth game in the Animes. But in reality, 95% of duels determine their winner on turn 1 now.

[tropic summit]

sometimes i really question who designed it that way had really thought it through

[placid bloom]

it's the Japanese issue

in TCG a lot of the first turn dogshit card got banned now

still some but way less

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit i betrayed u rail, i'm going full derp #pvp-arena message

[placid bloom]

but Master Duel is managed by Japanese so

[tropic summit]

le wild emma

[hollow lagoon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsZSyTwvUy4 i watch dis channel

[hollow lagoon]

if i'm going derp i might as well derp all the way

[tropic summit]

zant playin' real 4D chess with that SG team

[hollow lagoon]

2d chess

[swift mango]

It's too late to change now because the core players are used to it so they just lose revenue if they wanted to slow the game down.

That's why they made new Yu-Gi-Oh card games with different design for new players and casual. But that also hard to take off because 2 different Yu-Gi-Oh CG... Many people would just rather play something like Pokemon.

[gritty ridge]

I should win this right? I should be defending

[hollow lagoon]

i didnt even check mine yet

[tropic summit]

pokemon card game goes so way back... like DS back... wow the memories

[placid bloom]

you don't know if you are attacking or defending in groups, it is RNG

[gritty ridge]

Thast my top 64 match

[placid bloom]

[gritty ridge]

I lied

Thats my top 32 match

[tropic summit]

blue doll, 4SG pressure, you sacc, that anis and rapu are most likely ded

they can burst with moran but no B2, bye bye lifesteal

[hollow lagoon]

Huh tough customer

[gritty ridge]

Rosa should eat helm pretty easily, idk abt lap

[fast nest]

can slow cindy win against normal cindy comp?

[tropic summit]

if moran casts B1, you only hit helmt and moran

if moran doesn't cast B1, you hit both lappy and helm

[placid bloom]

clow Cindy always beats regular

[tropic summit]

cindy cannot lethal cindy

[placid bloom]

that matchup is very lopsided

[tropic summit]

cindy B3 rebuilds decoy, the slower cindy has advantage

[hollow lagoon]

what's with the mirrior matches that i get

[tropic summit]

@gritty ridge what are you gonna do after you get champ this season? quit and go live somewhere with your harem?

[fast nest]

but there is siren

[swift mango]

The game was good when it was about summon and beating a tower. But Yu-Gi-Oh and TCG players specifically hate that and love this current stage of summoning and searching small f tons of negate on legs more. This was the result they made themselves.

[tropic summit]

ah classic, the community letting the dev do what they want and ruin the game

i've seen this before in a pg13 family friendly game

what game could it be

[gritty ridge]

I dont make it to top 8 unless I win the vesti mirror

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

well what are you waiting for? go and win it

[placid bloom]

it is Japanese issue, a lot of the generic extra deck omni negate are banned now

just not in Japan

[tropic summit]

ok you might be a tad ded

[gritty ridge]

Actually wait

[placid bloom]

and Master Duel follows Japan

[gritty ridge]

That means scar has no jack

[placid bloom]

[gritty ridge]

Can sg beat scar?

[tropic summit]

non jackal scarlet? sure can

[swift mango]

Generic got banned but deck specific ones still around that could be summoned x2 easily.

[fast nest]

yes if your rosanna has 4 atk, you can win

[gritty ridge]

[tropic summit]

better if you're def side, still winnable on attack side although way more RNGy

[gritty ridge]

She does indeed

[fast nest]

you will oneshotkill scarlet.

[wild hemlock]

I'm taking this up to the highest managers at prydwen

[placid bloom]

I don't think there's that many archetype specific ones, but I do know they recently released Mitsurugi in MD and that deck is actually cancer because 1 card combo and no locks

so it's just that engine being an issue

[tropic summit]

nah she's good... ||on attack and when you can time her nuke ||

[gritty ridge]

Chat can my 3rl nayuta lib beat nero moran

[tropic summit]

who's getting helm sniped at 2.5RL

[gritty ridge]

Lib

[tropic summit]

ded

[quick lake]

If its Lib + RH maybe

[gritty ridge]

But, I have the rapunzel

[glad meteor]

Rail asking the right questions

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

then win

rapunzel diffed, true popcorn moment 🍿

[placid bloom]

tbh I think 1 card combo with no lock is the current biggest issue. Before if you make a board you will not have a hand, now you can make 2 deck's endboard by bridging into both engine and still have hand trap

[swift mango]

TCG is actually worse than OCG. I rather every deck has something to play. Than banning old generic cards and keeping new decks intact just to make meta more OP and hard for other casual decks

The game issue is its design, banning card won't do jack because new cards would just be worse.

[tropic summit]

who's you zant

[hollow lagoon]

i'm the ada

[gritty ridge]

Ill record my top 16 match for you

[hollow lagoon]

2rl me vs ?

[tropic summit]

oh your 1 rotation team, better hope you kill them before they reach 2nd cycle

[hollow lagoon]

didn't know it would get tested right away, that's not a black doll moran tho

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/lilnouns-nouns-lil-nouns-dao-noggles-gif-27131043

[wild hemlock]

I'll post my lib results for science but I now get the feeling this CA run is doomed cause I used Lib

[haughty mortar]

Kindly requesting an updated Rookie defense team

[tropic summit]

post le box

[haughty mortar]

Current team

[hollow lagoon]

u know what's funny i could get lib wiped if they are 3 rl me thinks

[placid bloom]

well this is just normal power creep, they ran out of ideas for 1 effect per card so now they make 2-3 effects per card

[tropic summit]

Rookie

• nayuta helmt rh laplaceT jackal
  or
• scarlet siren ein helmt RH

run both for 24hrs and see if either works out

[quick lake]

Sole Scarlet is pretty bad nowadays

[haughty mortar]

Cubes? Best on all except for Jack's quant?

[placid bloom]

cards from 10 years ago are still 1 effect per card so can't keep up

[tropic summit]

that team is actually a pseudo CP pad but still on 3RL, i think he's just getting CP gapped

[nimble swan]

I put the wrong cube on liberalio instead of quantum, so like this how much chance do i have to block soda scar?
(Let's take soda lucky stun out of the equation)

[quick lake]

Noise Noah fated to get stun

[tropic summit]

optn 1
nayuta any
helmt any
rh any
laplace quantum
jackal quantum

optn 2
scar temperance
siren temperance
ein any
helmt any
rh any

[swift mango]

It's more the because of 1 search per archetype per turn became 10.

When I was playing Create a card on Pojo forum, we had strict scoring of 1-2 search per archetype. More and it's would be OP and low score. But Konami decided more searchers are need to justify selling the ghost girls.

[gaunt pulsar]

your noah would last and they aren't 3rl on the dot, closer to 2.5rl, so you both catch each other's lib i would say it's up to other units doing the job, like your ada

[hollow lagoon]

i'm not lib bursting tho, i'm helm bursting for the sustain they are unlikely to off me on cycle 1

[nimble swan]

that doesn't sound too good

[hollow lagoon]

problem is i'm done if they hit cycle 3

[gaunt pulsar]

oh right, yeah, then his lib is dead

[onyx scaffold]

i feel like i will lose group stage

[haughty mortar]

Test driving this for today and switching to other tomorrow

[tropic summit]

never look at group stage, you can still lose when 2 wins 1 loss draw

meaningless waste of time and just RNG

[onyx scaffold]

i mean the other two guys are pve fodders lol

[onyx scaffold]

so at the end, there is only 1 meaningful battle

[umbral belfry]

@dense kindle we're still together

[hollow lagoon]

wouldent know what happens, if they re slow enough maybe i luck out and snipe rh and they lose second burst, if they are 2.5 idk what happens

[umbral belfry]

my alt

[tropic summit]

is the alt f2p too

[umbral belfry]

yes trust

[onyx scaffold]

31 skins look f2p to me

[tropic summit]

[umbral belfry]

truly my alt bc my main has more (in f2p)

[onyx scaffold]

lmao hime alt has same sync like me

[umbral belfry]

[gaunt pulsar]

lib is pretty slow, i doubt he has enough cs on her for it to matter, all you need is to down his lib before his noah and he loses a bunch of energy gen for it to matter later

[tropic summit]

imagine being f2p on multiple accounts

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

[livid prairie]

Guys does rumani + biscuit work against redhood ?

[tropic summit]

if you taunt RH in p1 and get multiple stacks with biscuit, you can get her stuck there ye

you've to be hitting RH with rumani tho to taunt

e.g. if RH isn't p1 or p2, you won't reach her

although RH will default shoot p1 when you attacking

[livid prairie]

Better use moran then

[tropic summit]

moran has attract taunt and reaches everyone ye

[hollow lagoon]

Of his helm has 15% then he has 2.5 rl, would have to find out

[livid prairie]

Alright thank you

[gaunt pulsar]

would be interesting to see when it happens kinda have a picture in my mind but probably completely wrong

[hollow lagoon]

No clue

Gonna be a fun one

Noah could mess my dps up so gonna suck

[molten bough]

i got this team rn should i switch it to smth else?

[hollow lagoon]

switch nayuta and anis spot

[molten bough]

like this?

[placid bloom]

Search is not always the issue, Artmage searches a lot and still ends on almost nothing because it locks you into Artmage

[molten bough]

thx

[swift mango]

It's an issue because it became the standard. Not every deck only search and do nothing. And this is not mentioning float on every single cards

Basically decks these days plus way too much. Spellbook and Dragon rulers was the start of "plus-a-ton", they banned them hard but every deck is like that now.

[molten bough]

whats the calculator for arena stuff called?

[gaunt pulsar]

https://nikke-deck.web.app/

[molten bough]

thanks

so is this good or ass?

[gritty ridge]

Its wasteful

Its also a delayed nuke with no protection

[molten bough]

i got these nikkes rn can the team be better?

[onyx scaffold]

u need to know one thing: this popular nuke is 2RL speed

[molten bough]

i have 1 of these nikkes

[onyx scaffold]

hmm

[molten bough]

ive been playing for like 3 weeks

prob less

[onyx scaffold]

low sync... either wait for rail's cook or just click auto

pre-sync 200, the game is basically a cp fest

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

I got 1 cp pad guy and 2 people with actual teams so not going to fly through this one

[hollow lagoon]

tough customer too

[shell hazel]

yeah

think the 86 guy usually does fairly well

[hollow lagoon]

yep he won couple times

[umbral crown]

Ez

[shell hazel]

[swift mango]

I remember the first guild I created on a mobile game was Wanderer. It was 2nd rank guild of the game. Then the game got axed.

[gritty ridge]

Ive made so many guilds and nobody ever joined them

[swift mango]

Make them at the start of the server. If the game is PvP. Try to rank yourself in the top 100 asap and keep spam recruitment.

[gritty ridge]

Im always top of my server in games I play, I just dont wanna spam recruitment. They should just see me and wanna join

[swift mango]

I was basically resident top 3 in that game PvP.

So guys see my guild and join

[gritty ridge]

I used to be in the top 100 for dragonball legends and to this day the only person to ever join my guild was my friend

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

I mean top every season.

[gritty ridge]

I was top for the first year ish

Then the game started degrading so I jumped ship

[swift mango]

And you didn't recuit enough

[tropic summit]

one time happens
two times happens
three times it's no longer a coincidence

need to up your marketing skills @gritty ridge

offer them some cookies and hoes

[swift mango]

Need to create a guild early into the game and spawn recuit with kicking inactive often.

[gritty ridge]

Every time I play a game I start my own guild, its just never took off. I do usually end up in a top 3 guild for my region tho

[tropic summit]

i've actually been a guild master on warframe, had 90+ lads and active discord, but waaaaaaaaaaay too much effort, even with people helpin' out

guild master / clan leader is a second job

[gritty ridge]

Yeah

[swift mango]

High rank in Arena is only a small part that boost your guild when it was already active in the first place.

[gritty ridge]

In nikke yeah

I just want to be good at pvp

[swift mango]

In every game

[hybrid fox]

do I win?
(team 3 can I substitue Rh to anyone?)

[tropic summit]

bah nikke guilds are a bit weird because you need a balance of synchro and find lads who put at least minimal effort in communication

[gritty ridge]

Unless the game is all pvp

[gritty ridge]

Balance sync, communication, preferably at least 1 person who does good in CA

[tropic summit]

in some games you could recruit newbies and grow them up in days/weeks... in nikke it takes months

[swift mango]

Even if game is all PvP, they still won't join your guild just because you personally rank high. You need to make your guild early and keep the management of the guild active first.

[hybrid fox]

uhh help?

[swift mango]

Early high ranking guild basically including kicking every 20 hours.

[gritty ridge]

Im looking

[swift mango]

Yeah, not 24, 20.

[gritty ridge]

T3 you could swap rosa for rh

T1 im iffy on tho

[shell hazel]

such is the fate of many mobile games

they're a bit of a whale

[swift mango]

Then Line group chat many years ago and Discord group now.

[shell hazel]

all max core eva units and each frame relates to the eva in the rep squad

[gritty ridge]

Something tells me they like evangelion

[shell hazel]

nah couldn't be real 😄

[gritty ridge]

Yeah, it was just a passing thought

[tropic summit]

T1

if noah taunt priority put noah in p1, you want to have vestiTU away from splash range of enemy vesti so you can out trade with biscuit and noah

i'd personally discard noise

noah flexB1-B2 flexB1 biscuit vestiTU

T2

looks ok, you'll prevent indom and wipe emi and RH

T3

you can probably win this with nayuta p1 and moran p5 (you need to prevent SGs from killing you), if you kill their liter which happens to be p1, they cannot burst, at that point you can be as slow as it needs to burst

[gaunt pulsar]

pretty good considering what you are working with, i would just change positions to what's on screenshot
having nayuta in p1 is asking for someone to use siren on you and anis gets hit when she is in p2 despite being able to burst instead of nayuta if she gets stunned, also considering your dolls you probably have liberalio and nayuta linked to jackal rn so p1 p2 p5 is ideal instead of p1 p4 p5

[nimble swan]

how's your group @shell hazel ?

[shell hazel]

might be deadge early

86 guy seems to counter me pretty well

we live or we die

[molten bough]

thx

[nimble swan]

I'm not on the lucky side either

[swift mango]

I remember I had to kick not just inactive but casual guys who don't level up fast as well.

[nimble swan]

i closed arena and i won't open it until tomorrow afternoon

[shell hazel]

nah I won't dig too deep into how the matches go either tbh, I don't usually try to calc fully on quals anyway

[swift mango]

Early final

[shell hazel]

that no one gets to watch :9

[gritty ridge]

Ez win

[nimble swan]

which group is urs?

[shell hazel]

i'm group 16, zanta is 50

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

check if keripo is running a soline team afterall

[shell hazel]

keripo def is

[nimble swan]

i'm 32

[scenic hatch]

yea

[tropic summit]

i knew it

he made his stall even more stall

[hybrid fox]

how do I put a team 1 without noise :v...

and noise prob no slot 2 or slot 3 cuz taunt = faster burst gen for enemy

[onyx scaffold]

Nothing compared to u

[gaunt pulsar]

dead to libe anyway no?

[scenic hatch]

how do they make the groups.
I won last time, keripo best 32, another guy best 16

[placid bloom]

that does not lose to Lib, not even close

[shell hazel]

I won't care that much if I die tbh, it's one less thing to concern myself with at least 😛

[scenic hatch]

and we are in the same groups so weird

[tropic summit]

noah flexB1-B2 flexB1 biscuit vestiTU

e.g.

noah trina rapunzel biscuit vestiTU

[shell hazel]

CA is just a bit of 🍿 fun anyway

[tropic summit]

if libe gets past helmT snipe yes, single buff lib is probably lethal on everyone minus maybe moran

if libe is on blanc buff, she's lethal on anything (minus HP stacking DR)

[gaunt pulsar]

so blanc libe

[placid bloom]

[fair pivot]

Wait I don’t get to bet for CA if I qualify? Damn, that’s a waste of credits since I don’t think I’m winning a single battle

[tropic summit]

you can bet on opponents

[hybrid fox]

ok noah rumani rapu bis besti works too?

[placid bloom]

you can't bet on groups

betting starts at top 64

[fair pivot]

Ooh ok

[hybrid fox]

and then team 3?

[tropic summit]

i wouldn't rumani, if for w/e reason enemy noah taunts her, you splash and taunt vesti, which then splash and kills biscuit

[shell hazel]

nani!?

[gritty ridge]

Nah, bet on yourself. Either you champ or you dont get gold

[fair pivot]

Does qualifying alone earn union rewards or do I have to win in the league?

[hybrid fox]

just tha I dont wanna break trina, is noise back to the table if Rapu heals

[tropic summit]

only need 1 buffer, put lib or cindy instead of blanc

[nimble swan]

wait is this our first CA since reshuffle?

[shell hazel]

noooo

come back!

[tropic summit]

e.g.

[shell hazel]

found @slate falcon just beneath assntits lmao

[umbral belfry]

[hybrid fox]

replaced w. cindy

[shell hazel]

might be a diff thighs ofc :p

[tropic summit]

if cindy, bench laplace, you want cindy in p3 to prevent giving enemy laplaceT more burst gen

[slate falcon]

They were inspired by me, im kind of a legend in the THIGH’S field

[tropic summit]

e.g.

nayuta flex cindy helmT moran

stay 3RL if possible

[slate falcon]

[hybrid fox]

going back with lib then so many things to care for PvP

[shell hazel]

wait a minute

[tropic summit]

if you wanna keep cindy

[shell hazel]

RIN is someone here right?

[gritty ridge]

The shuffle was terrible

It gave my bracket somebody back from the previous rapture

[hybrid fox]

I avoid rumani team 3 cuz she's low cp

[tropic summit]

p2 can be B1 or B2 as you need CP

and that keeps you 3RL

[tropic summit]

ye lib allows you more leeway and can put an RH, probably better CP overall

[hybrid fox]

eh rh to whom? la+?

[shell hazel]

hello @crystal flicker welcome to my CA bracket apparently?

[tropic summit]

or replace RH with lappy

[umbral belfry]

the great ca rapture

[nimble swan]

@shell hazel you are the only one who got iseakaid, both @hollow lagoon and @cunning crown is in the same bracket as I

[hollow lagoon]

wait he moved up bracket?

[shell hazel]

I am the one who was isekaid this actually makes more sense

[umbral belfry]

no more friendship

[hollow lagoon]

that's for not being in union

[shell hazel]

[swift mango]

Old man Hippo.

[nimble swan]

because you started 2 weeks earlier lol?

[umbral belfry]

my unionmate went down a bracket

[cunning crown]

We lost a brother this day...

[swift mango]

It's more about you got moved to his.

[shell hazel]

to make matters worse I have tenshi and moran guy here 😄

I am undone

[swift mango]

Did you just got moved this season or what?

[shell hazel]

this CA moved me

[swift mango]

You moved this CA

[hybrid fox]

am I still slightly short

[fast nest]

[shell hazel]

this CA moved me or I moved this CA

[tropic summit]

cindy in p5 instead of moran? check CP

[hybrid fox]

check before

[fast nest]

I vote for latter one

[swift mango]

You are no longer the same

[shell hazel]

start
run
mscalc
enter opponent cp * 0.846

[hybrid fox]

then enough absolutely

[tropic summit]

oke you might get 3 wins

[swift mango]

Or 3 loses

[tropic summit]

ensure you're not on noise taunt priority for T1 (noah lower CS% than noise)

[shell hazel]

I'm not the me I used to beeee

I'll miss you my brethren @hollow lagoon @nimble swan @cunning crown
I hope to come back soon

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-manga-japanese-anime-japanese-manga-minori-kushieda-gif-5359089

[hollow lagoon]

go fight people with emilia hahahahhahahahahahahhaa

[tropic summit]

p.s. you can sub centi for laplace if scarlet is still linked

[hybrid fox]

Noah 18,51
noise 4.92

[nimble swan]

nooooooooooooo mann , not just you gone... I wanted to beat those 2 either

[hybrid fox]

unfortunately not

[swift mango]

You are fine then

[tropic summit]

ye that's a noise taunt priority, i'd really bench her for any flex b1 or b2 to avoid screwing it up

[hybrid fox]

eh conflict idea?

[tropic summit]

blood is trolling

just ignore him

[hybrid fox]

maybe noise pos 1 then? she dies = rapu burst

[tropic summit]

no you want noah in p1 exactly to prevent splash on p2 and p3

remove noise for flex b1 or b2

[swift mango]

Noise lower than Noah is standard. Just maybe your team need sth else.

[hybrid fox]

hmmm

[tropic summit]

you didn't even look at the matchup don't confuse him

[hybrid fox]

soda? idk

I am recording for sure

[tropic summit]

anything with CP, p2 is gonna die

[shell hazel]

at least I have one familiar face in new bracket

[tropic summit]

it can be naga/rouge anything

ok wait

you need clip RL in p2

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/truck-hit-im-off-zombieland-saga-sakura-minamoto-gif-16144958

^this was me going into this CA

[tropic summit]

put rumani and fk it

but with rumani you're no longer 2RL

ye just go 2 wins and screw it

aint doing 3 wins this is an headche

[shell hazel]

this was less than 10 CA since last switch though, I kind of like having some rivalries with the players we see a lot of 🙂

[hybrid fox]

maybe noise stay then

we will see

[tropic summit]

you're dead

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-coffin-coffin-dance-funeral-funny-farewell-gif-16737844

[tropic summit]

you need 2RL

this is 3RL with noise

[hybrid fox]

rumani > rapu cope

[tropic summit]

you gonna eat vesti nuke

although at least on noise buff

[swift mango]

Replace Noise with Anis and it's 2rl.

[hybrid fox]

[tropic summit]

yolo with this

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-doro-doro-nikke-doro-dance-nikke-doro-dance-nikke-goddess-of-victory-gif-8703647541755233763

[tropic summit]

put temperance on vestiTU and biscuit

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit why isnt this 2rl

[hybrid fox]

that's what I am trying

[tropic summit]

the F is harran doing there

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-doro-doro-nikke-doro-dance-nikke-doro-dance-nikke-goddess-of-victory-gif-3256116476971035970

[gritty ridge]

Im asking abt the rl%

150% should be 2rl no?

[tropic summit]

CS% doesn't magically make you shoot twice you fool

[gritty ridge]

It does sometimes

[tropic summit]

go touch the ladies

[gritty ridge]

I cant

Im sick

[tropic summit]

make it happen

[tropic summit]

that's cuz you didn't touch a lady

[gritty ridge]

Yeah, not touching ladies gave me pneumonia

[hybrid fox]

WWW

do u two want vid

[hollow lagoon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1012288696336273428/1440017221631082597/ezgif-44efda1c783e5c2a.gif

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/guinaifen-honkai-star-rail-honkai-hsr-sexo-gif-3575996994417374585

[hybrid fox]

@swift mango @tropic summit want vid?

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

@swift mango dat language

[shell hazel]

blood naughty swearing and shit again

[tropic summit]

go ahead

[gritty ridge]

They do

[swift mango]

I only post image link from Tenor

Not even a single comment

[tropic summit]

if there's a fishy word in the link it gets banneroni

[swift mango]

It was the horn-y face rapum

[tropic summit]

i'm more surprised a gif with "3ggs" in it went through

[umbral belfry]

I'm snitching to the mods

[tropic summit]

in 2025 god forbid saying eggs with an s

[shell hazel]

just become a mod Hime then you can snitch without doing anything

[hybrid fox]

sent

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

[umbral belfry]

my first order of business would be uncensoring the word g o o nette

[hybrid fox]

[shell hazel]

and mango man

[tropic summit]

went as expected, don't listen to blood

[spare nimbus]

Am I gunna get out of this group

[tropic summit]

although rumani almost srsly screwed you over

she ate 1 biscuit stack

[spare nimbus]

Are u playing on a nokia?

[swift mango]

What did I do?

[tropic summit]

dis troll

[umbral belfry]

why didn't you burst with vesti

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/nokia-press-gif-18099067

[spare nimbus]

She’s just there for pressure

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

nookia benchpresses your benchpress

[spare nimbus]

I mean this is basically what I have as my rookie defense as well, moran noah helm besti trina

Only one dude can beat it and even then he loses like 70% of the time

[shell hazel]

if you have enough CS to make this 2RL on besti

super defender immunity

[cunning crown]

[shell hazel]

ghost anne

[spare nimbus]

Loo my device slow asf 💀

[hollow lagoon]

Anne: Mirror

evil Anne confirmed, daily wipe brain because redshoes virus

[spare nimbus]

Unfortunately my cs on vesti is nonexistent lol

At least for my team, i don’t have to rely on vesti to reach 2rl, my moran, noah, helm, trina is already fast enough to reach 2rl by themselves, and they’re all like 20% cs

I don’t want to rely on vesti shot for 2rl on that comp

[shell hazel]

yeah it is 2RL without any CS with trina

[spare nimbus]

I’d have to reroll vesti, but for now I kinda wanna work on my ada

Vesti’s attack lines are scuffed, all in first and second line

[shell hazel]

nah I don't max my CS either

mine has like 9% CS and I can boost to 11% with adjutatant if I want to

I'd like a native 11% at some point but means trying to roll a blue or black line CS

I'm not planning to roll more CS don't think it's necessary most of the time atm

[tropic summit]

that's kinda wasted usage of biscuit stacks, can just put noah in p5

at that point you can use a better flex than biscuit

[shell hazel]

no biscuit no deal

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-feed-anime-cutie-gif-21805557

[shell hazel]

eating the biscuit!

[fallow nebula]

How is solin

[shell hazel]

ask Keripo when she gets to fight

[onyx scaffold]

@umbral crown

[umbral belfry]

[quick lake]

Whale fest

[leaden canyon]

@tropic summit been so long since I hit this other guy I forget what to do lol

[slate falcon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/966217168276586517/1439449537583513720/fine.gif

[spare nimbus]

Time to gamble and mirror his team lol

[lone sequoia]

easy... noise/scar- indom fight and 2RL vesti/noah

[dense kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/hug-cute-i-miss-you-gif-17910989

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/mocha-and-milk-bears-milk-mocha-cuddle-squeeze-gif-7102673578086768359

but we lost ket

[tropic summit]

hmm there's a lot to abuse here

[umbral belfry]

he's getting bullied in sp

[leaden canyon]

I figure this might work

[tropic summit]

i've a different plan, T2 is risky, T3 is also probably not enough DPS, T1 probably would work

[tropic summit]

they're in order of matchup, from T1 to T3

might be a triple win

cubes and 2.5RL are important here so make sure you use the same as above

[leaden canyon]

my lap is only 15% cs with cs cube on

[tropic summit]

15%CS is enough to hit threshold

my only doubt is on T3... if we kill lib that could be a problem

[lone sequoia]

you have 1 combo to kill emi

+burst

should be fine

[tropic summit]

they're 2.5RL, moran will B1 in time

could chicken out and ensure win on T1 and T2

but it's dair anyway he got the gems for science

[tropic summit]

T3 change, let's put vesti and biscuit in safe zones

noah trina liter biscuit vestiTU

rest can go as is, give it a shot and record

gonna facetank an unbuffed emi nuke but probably non lethal

(assuming lib dies anyway)

@keen vapor do your surface content

[leaden canyon]

round 2 will have to be like this for cubes

[tropic summit]

oh that's fine

[dense kindle]

Come back Ket ,

I’ll check groups after work but did anyone else move out?

[tropic summit]

for reference, what's anis HP?

against lib

@leaden canyon nvm centi is open

let's avoid that silly misindom shall we

[atomic wolf]

@umbral belfry just for you know I'm asexual and not into pegging

[keen vapor]

I'm busy trying to unbrick my outpost

[atomic wolf]

and my comp unoptimized

[tropic summit]

don't complain on sunday after reset once you found out you forgot again

[keen vapor]

Two days brick I missed one rock

Plus actual interception+daily pull

And so on

[umbral belfry]

a hole is a goal

[tropic summit]

have you considered rerolling?

[keen vapor]

You won't have my Emilia

[umbral belfry]

tatsu (my unionmate) went back down to baby bracket

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/sigh-anime-sigh-mutsumi-tired-anime-tired-gif-7522699491843672464

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-anime-girl-anime-girl-confused-confused-anime-girl-confused-gif-11043332226267312554

[glad meteor]

Dorodash peeps

[worldly lion]

Worked like a charm :>

[umbral belfry]

k wanting doro to beat pie

I'm gonna jumpscare you with doggos

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-anime-yuru-camp-rin-headbutt-gif-19525403

[umbral belfry]

[keen vapor]

@tropic summit I did it

[umbral belfry]

[keen vapor]

I'm successfully brick

[umbral belfry]

you fool

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/you-get-out-get-out-anime-gif-17448320

[keen vapor]

Literally every GIF loads but why snapped

[tropic summit]

[keen vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177116972593463316/1441497155465515008/1026322546934698004.gif

[brazen geyser]

Good morning everyone,
do you think I can win against him? Or what composition do you suggest?

[tropic summit]

that's a burst oriented team without stalling, you can get rid of that with actual stalling and DPS B3 instead

an example:

noise noah vestiTU biscuit helmT (8%CS assumed on vestiTU)

alternatively, since they're 3RL or at best 2.5RL and they do not run a DR unit B1, you can also punish with canonic nukers

an example:

jackal scarlet trina laplaceT helmT

[brazen geyser]

Do you think the 1RL composition I show works?

[tropic summit]

cindy in p2 gives your unit 1.25x burst gen

i suppose a full clip RL team + scarlet could hit 1RL

if anything, you'll be 1.5RL or faster

stuff like

scar trina laplaceT vestiTU/emi/centi jackal, assuming scar is linked

[gritty ridge]

15 dist an hr

[keen vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1026322546934698004.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=whyyysnapped

[tropic summit]

@brazen geyser assuming

scar trina laplaceT centi jackal

Step 1: Multiply all clip RL base gen by 1.25

28.8 × 1.25 = 36.0
23.2 × 1.25 = 29.0
27.6 × 1.25 = 34.5
28.4 × 1.25 = 35.5

The 1st number remains the same: 11.7 (scarlet gains no added burst gen as she hits only p1)

Step 2: Sum all numbers

11.7 + 36.0 + 29.0 + 34.5 + 35.5

11.7 + 36.0 = 47.7
47.7 + 29.0 = 76.7
76.7 + 34.5 = 111.2
111.2 + 35.5 = 146.7

Total sum = 146.7%

146% is essentially 1.5RL

scar is stunned on 2RL B2 timing (if missing ammo count requirement and used in p1)

1.5RL is on B3 while 2RL is on B1, theoretically you still burst prior to stun

[brazen geyser]

ty

[gritty ridge]

Rail, wanna do a deep dish analysis to keep the dust off?

Ive got 2 matches i wanna know cuz they're my unionmates

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit help plz

[gritty ridge]

Why are you missing a unit

Your whole teams confuse me

Youre not bursting with bay?

[bitter cipher]

@keen vapor If I’m now consistently dia2, or can squeeze into dia1 once or twice but mostly stay in dia2, can I still get 2k gems or am I now getting 1.6k?

[tropic summit]

post them in a format that is easy to read and show burst gen and i might

[gritty ridge]

Ill put em in deck for you

[placid bloom]

you need to be dia1 for 1 week 1 min to get 2k gem compared to dia2

[tropic summit]

these look easy enough, you can try your own cook

T1 has no p5 pressure, scarlet is in p3, they're super slow
T2 this one only has stun pressure, you know what to do, very slow
T3 SG pressure and nayuta, you'll need team wide damage or a nuke, they're still neverthless slow

[placid bloom]

basically any time you trade 1 place up you need to be 50.1% of the higher rank

[lone sequoia]

no video from dair?

@tropic summit

[marble saddle]

@tropic summit sorry your plan didnt work

[keen vapor]

What are you talking about....

[tropic summit]

i knew he'd snipe

[placid bloom]

[keen vapor]

Same reward from diamond 1 to 3 (end in top 30)

[tropic summit]

nope didn't see it yet

[marble saddle]

yeah but 2 mins was enough time for him to change his teams to my new def

[warm monolith]

I tried but im not sure how much deficit cindy team could take and also wasnt sure about the third team when its in deficit too as you can see i tried to cook but needed thelm for both teams and couldnt think of an solution,i will try again when i complete my dailies tho

[placid bloom]

I thought there is more than that

[bitter cipher]

Oh thank goodness

[tropic summit]

1. weak def
2. he gapping you

show the def you ran

[placid bloom]

well it's been a long time since I looked at how many slot there is in diamond

[tropic summit]

ye try again, you can do it

[marble saddle]

prob 1 since hes below sync from me

[lone sequoia]

you have to check your loading time to get a good snipe with your teams, you can make people spend more that way or just keep the rank +2 fresh hits after reset

[tropic summit]

in general you want at least 2 teams scarlet and noah resistant, which is generally a 2RL noah and a 2RL indom

3rd team will inevitably get indommed or noah'ed

those are the most difficult teams to defend against because attacker has insane advantage

[marble saddle]

i was defending from the snipe tho

[marble saddle]

yeah then it was a weak def

[tropic summit]

T1 skip
T2 weak
T3 weak

T2 got noahed/out-traded
T3 got bay'ed/indommed/stalled

[lone sequoia]

decent DEF have some sort of rng or gimmick+knowledge check, you can use scar+soda or siren teams or just vesti indom

[marble saddle]

thing is my soda and rosa arent built so i cant use that angle.

[lone sequoia]

but since cindy last year there is no way to defend in sp, is really easy to get 3 wins against any unit distribution

[tropic summit]

he's fighting on a pve box for the most part

[lone sequoia]

can he get a good cp gap team?

[tropic summit]

exactly this

[tropic summit]

opponent seems to be on near same invest iirc

[lone sequoia]

rh+good elements (p1~2 pressure)

[tropic summit]

there's a lot of pattern he can still run anyway

[marble saddle]

his sync in only 20 lvls below me so no where enough to cp gap him

[tropic summit]

the point is making teams that take longer than 3 mins to solve

those teams i saw earlier take 1 minute

[marble saddle]

what if i try to do a double move?

[tropic summit]

start making 3 patterns and show them here and i'll rate them

[marble saddle]

change at 2 mins left. then change again at 1 min left

[tropic summit]

but ye you're on the right approach sort of

[lone sequoia]

you can swap teams last 30 sec

if he hit you, you can hit back (if you load fast)

[marble saddle]

nah he atks in the last 1-2 mins

[tropic summit]

realistically speaking, changing 2 or 1 min earlier is good enough

[lone sequoia]

then it is easy to snipe back

[marble saddle]

yeah thats not happening. ive tested my loading speed and it take about 30 - 40 secs

[tropic summit]

30-40 secs is on my end too, unless it involves indom or long fights it can go up a minute too

hypothetically you could put 2 stalls and 1 indom just to make it long-ass loading times

[marble saddle]

basically my knowlege of teams is less than his so im at a disadvantage when making teams

[tropic summit]

Zlaw training arc

[marble saddle]

idk man that sounds toxic as fq

[lone sequoia]

mine is between 13sec and 50 (i know what teams take more time)

[tropic summit]

absolutely, pure cancer in fact

[marble saddle]

good to know i still got a conciense

[lone sequoia]

also, quick battle take more time compared to normal attack

[tropic summit]

the lovely things SU allows with this beautiful system

either way, this makes for good practice @marble saddle

make 3 patterns and show them later

aim for 2.5RL and 2RL, don't 3RL if possible

[lone sequoia]

working as intended; making people spend in hits

[tropic summit]

3RL on 90-97% to 2RL or 2.5RL is also acceptable

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit

[tropic summit]

so top is def in both scenarios ok

[gritty ridge]

Yup

I come earlier in the group numbers so im attacking

[lone sequoia]

making someone a false threat, just to make you spend more. in other games with different systems the ladder+rng opponents reduce the value of pvp

[marble saddle]

hmm lemme figure this out

[placid bloom]

that is wrong Lap

[quartz vortex]

i should win this right?

[uncut crown]

What role does Noir play in a PVP team?

[lone sequoia]

SG=dmg+ burst gen, nothing more

[warm monolith]

T1: crown/biscuit/cindy/tBay/rapirh (902k)
T3:vestitu/blanc/thelm/tlap/rumani (803k)
Though im not sure about the deficit

[lone sequoia]

then you can start with elemental advantage from x to y unit or feed of some teams against teams that use jackal

[placid bloom]

seem winning yes their team too slow to Blanc in time to wall your sniper

[gritty ridge]

Dont forgor her massive atk boost of 9 billion%

[placid bloom]

well actually if you cannot wipe them fast enough you will lose

you might get solo'd by SDoro indom

after killing Yuni and Drake

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit

[marble saddle]

@placid bloom can Treasure bay tank Lib nuke?

[gritty ridge]

My scar is safe, my vesti is 40% atk so should oneshot

[placid bloom]

no, Lib bypass for who knows what reason

[marble saddle]

damn....

[lone sequoia]

bay have weird interactions against some nukes...

[tropic summit]

T1 too slow, get them to 4RL
T3 overkill, will win but maybe balance with T1

you're on the right track, fix T1

also replace rumani with jackal, you're not using her that's a waste

[warm monolith]

I wanna swap thelm for tBay but unsure about deficit

[placid bloom]

tbh Bay kit in general is just a mess

[warm monolith]

[tropic summit]

you can fight up to 18-20% deficit with biscuit locked team just fine, ensure your B3 nukes with at least 1 buffer

[placid bloom]

since it's double layered damage share

so it's hard to say where the problem lies

[gritty ridge]

Thank you rail

[gritty ridge]

I do think my scar has a chance at winning v slow cindy

[tropic summit]

record that lib matchup, will be popcorn worthy

[warm monolith]

Swapping rapirh with jackal? Cp drops to 855k but 4RL?

[gritty ridge]

Will do, im assuming hes 2.5rl but should be same result as 3rl

If I win these 2 I have a very solid chance at winning

[marble saddle]

@tropic summit what about these?

[tropic summit]

Original × 0.846 Required CP
1,018,672 ≈ 861,797
969,227 ≈ 819,966
967,294 ≈ 818,331

you need the above CP

aim for teams on 3RL as it's good practice for you

remember the trick we used for your 27% deficit

nayuta p1
biscuit locked team with defender p1 and p5 for shotgun pressure

T3 has a shotgun, so fix that

(jackal locked is fine too)

[tropic summit]

this is your attack against him? top is his teams?

[marble saddle]

yeah

cant use bay against lib
and noah against siren will not work

[tropic summit]

so... the decision to skip T3 is legit, as you've no rosanna to leverage

the decision to mirror scarlet although is really bad, i dunno who taught you that, forget it
the choice for indom is ok

[warm monolith]

I only understand untill that nayuta thing we did though i might can try something with nayuta ig

[marble saddle]

ik you told me not to try and mirror but then idk what B3 i should use in that case for T1

[tropic summit]

things to know about scarlet:

• she's 1hit nuke, which means bay can catch it on same speed, this is a huge hint
• she's glass cannon, meaning any team that gets past her nuke will likely out trade right after

remake the teamas with that in mind

another hint: use noah 3RL against their lib, siren is in p4... which means...

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit nayuta/tBay/cindy/rh/jackal 4RL 809K
T3: crown/biscuit/vestitu/thelm/rumani 2.5RL 811k

[tropic summit]

T3 is fine but T1 is still a bit too slow, balance helmT with T1 and where's your SBS/laplaceT/DrakeT

[warm monolith]

Im not sure who to replace them with,i mean,my sbs has similar cp to my thelm and tlap and tdrake a bit lower. Maybe replace thelm with tlap and put thelm to instead of rh?

[tropic summit]

@marble saddle when you're done thinking, here's what i'd use

points for T2 as it was correct

[tropic summit]

you need speed for T1

there's already a buffer, nayuta

then there's laplaceT, drakeT and SBS

[warm monolith]

But isnt thelm a good burst gen?

[tropic summit]

rework that team with that info

use your burst gen properly

[warm monolith]

Does sbs give more burst gen then cindy?

[tropic summit]

@marble saddle needless to say, batteries with jackal always want quantum

vestiTU, jackal, laplaceT, centi all on quantum

[tropic summit]

https://nikke-deck.web.app/

[marble saddle]

i have no idea what im making at this point

[tropic summit]

yeah... that's full tilt

you seem to struggle to understand how to make teams resistant to nuke while ensuring speed

another hint:

T1: 2RL with anti nuke
T2: indom is fine or a team behind noah that can DPS (you're almost there, noah is unprotected and stunnable on 3RL if used in p1 against siren)

[marble saddle]

that hint about bay catching scar nuke at same speed utterly destroyed any notions i had about using 2RL vs that 3RL team

[placid bloom]

why are they using base Lap

[tropic summit]

that's fine, in fact an important bit you mentioned:

• what do you do when you're unsure opponent is 2RL, 2.5RL or 3RL? you slap a 2RL team with noah or indom

[marble saddle]

they arent i prob got soo much cooked trying to lower my RL speed from 2 to 3 i forgot to update

[tropic summit]

in general always assume scar is 2RL

if she happens to be slower, noah still covers you from 2RL to 3RL

[marble saddle]

so basically ive been trying ways to shoot myself in the foot

[quick pivot]

If it's not too much trouble could I get some help organizing some new SP Arena teams as well? Haven't updated those in quite some time

[tropic summit]

but that's how you learn, you slam into walls and learn

making mistakes or finding out you don't know it's all very useful

[tropic summit]

ye sure post your box

[marble saddle]

you didnt say anything about the t2 matchup im using.

[quick pivot]

Tried to follow the pinned messages a bit back but I think there's room for improvement 👍

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit t1:nayuta/tBay/cindy/tlap/jackal 3RL 805K
T3:crown/biscuit/vestitu/thelm/rumani 2.5RL 811K
I think its good?

[quick pivot]

[tropic summit]

ye this looks doable, give them a run

[warm monolith]

Finally:D

Though im concerned about cp deficit,i trust my wife

[tropic summit]

you won on 27%, you shouldn't be scared of 20%

[quick pivot]

Don't ask why my Naga is my highest power unit, her initial OL lines just kinda worked out that way

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/naga-naga-nikke-naga-gacha-skin-nikke-nikke-goddess-of-victory-nikke-gif-9423628166083519614

[warm monolith]

Dang,t3 lost:(

[marble saddle]

i dont get it. you said previously that since his siren was p4
i could potentially go with 3 RL noah
or was that a test to see if i understood siren's positioning?

[warm monolith]

Maybe i shouldve swapped crown for noah?

Ill try again

[warm monolith]

Yep,worked now

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• jackal siren scarlet trina drakeT
• noise rumani vestiTU lib noah
• nayuta centi helmt laplaceT RH

Notes

• finish building up vestiTU, SR15 and possibly 8%CS with 2-3 atk% and 1-2 ele atk%, 2 ammo mandatory

[warm monolith]

Thanks a lot

[quick pivot]

Bless your soul, as always

[tropic summit]

ye but noah in p1 on 3RL is siren weak, that's the point, don't use her in p1

[tropic summit]

it was a test to see if you understood where to place your noah

[marble saddle]

oh wait you mean cause of siren's targeting

[swift mango]

Obviously place her on top of Vesti.

[tropic summit]

ye we mentioned this before

• siren in p1 or p2 will get taunted by noah, which means you need 11CS% team wide 2RL or noise taunt priority
• siren in any other position can only target p1, meaning noah in any position but p1 cannot taunt her and you're stun safe

you've another threat there then, vestiTU shoots p1 p2 p3, noah is fire code weak... which means realistically you could only place her p4 p5... p4 is bad because you'd taunt in the middle of your team... meaning... p5

[marble saddle]

damn..... i cant believe how cooked i am that im forgetting pvp 101

[tropic summit]

in general noah will either be p1 or p5, in some cases p2

the only times you can p1 is when you meet conditions above, if against siren

[marble saddle]

i think ill stick to indom. much less braincell dying

[tropic summit]

ye but you gotta learn this

you won't be always able to avoid running noah against siren

[marble saddle]

fine..... lemme see

[tropic summit]

for this particular case anyway, noah is fine on t1

so you can run indom on the other

[marble saddle]

nah i wanna try this so i can remember it for future cases

[tropic summit]

then 3RL on same speed with vestiTU as DPS and noah in p5

you can also 2.5RL if you want to, lib if alive will cast on 2.5RL or 3RL and if noah shield is cast on 2.5RL you'll cover up to 3.5RL

doubt although lib will be alive if they're 3RL as you'll be hitting ele weakness and then bursting in her face

[crystal flicker]

LMAO

[tropic summit]

isekai'ed into hippo's bracket

[shell hazel]

nah other way around

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

I got hit by a truck

it's clear because zanta taarn and zael left behind

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enGTk409iQk

[placid bloom]

you are in Emilia bracket now?

[crystal flicker]

Is there any Emi user?

[shell hazel]

I dunno it's your bracket you tell me ;D

[swift mango]

Finally a SSR from all the daily.

[hollow lagoon]

some tall ass pregnant grass ur touching

[tropic summit]

wrong channel, https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/956168724656820264 get him @ moderators

[shell hazel]

all I have to say is

[quick pivot]

TVesti, why

[hollow lagoon]

u o?

[shell hazel]

u o?

[marble saddle]

@tropic summit pls rate

[tropic summit]

why xmaiden p1

[swift mango]

Rossanna.

[hollow lagoon]

40+ rocks later sdoro refuse to give me a ele line

[crystal flicker]

And it's terrible I got Group 2 smh

[tropic summit]

why cinderella in T2

[marble saddle]

cause i didnt want my rumani or bay to die before they bursted

[shell hazel]

just 💳 some

[hollow lagoon]

already did no mroe packs

[tropic summit]

and what happened to blanc for the indom and the 2RL speed

[shell hazel]

put a ticket in with SU to create more rock packs

[tropic summit]

bay in p5 can't be hit by anything

[hollow lagoon]

i might just not care abotu sdoro

[tropic summit]

the only thing that can shoot p5 is shotguns, there's no shotguns there

[hollow lagoon]

bricked unit

[shell hazel]

@tropic summit send the s.doro thing

[hollow lagoon]

worst rolling luck ever

[marble saddle]

i decided i wanted to try noah against that t2 so indom got scrapped
i mean in case i put rumani or bay in p1

[tropic summit]

fool

[swift mango]

Pilgrim molds. Okay. Time to leave.

[shell hazel]

she can become a pilgrim. trust

[hollow lagoon]

give me a second ele line then, ill live with the 1 atk but just give me 1 mroe ele

[tropic summit]

but why jackal, it literally opens you up to damage on 3 units, you're not stalling with that

[shell hazel]

@crystal flicker who has the emi in our bracket?

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/do-your-best-anime-gif-25753335

[shell hazel]

I'll find them in rl and set zanta to kill em

[tropic summit]

that's a pilgrim wdym

[marble saddle]

well you said 2.5 RL was ok as well and i figured the only way to get that was jackal feed in

[tropic summit]

2.5RL promoted to 2RL via feed... else it's siren weak if it's not promoted to 2RL

you won't get to 2RL with just 69% and out of just siren feeding

[marble saddle]

[hollow lagoon]

i think u put the wrong laplace in the deck my buddy

[uneven raptor]

Hi, how much cspeed does Vesti and TrHelm need? They're at 4.92 and 7.20, just to know if I should work on them first or start fishing for lines for the rest of my units (Jackal has 14%, Noah 0%, Bisquit and Trina 4.92%)

[tropic summit]

this is promoted to 2RL

[marble saddle]

yeah its been fixed

[marble saddle]

how about this then?

[tropic summit]

you doing it on purpose?

how can someone still fail to understand placement

[marble saddle]

welp its official. making pvp teams at 3 am isnt a good idea. ill take the L and some back after ive slept. sorry for wasting your time

[swift mango]

At least I got Jackal in Standard.
Like 60+ pull for on SSR on standard though.

[tropic summit]

no it's fine Zlaw but please do take a rest

brain not braining today

[hollow lagoon]

that bay position is not friendly

[shell hazel]

@oblique gyro I found you

and voidy boy

[coarse lake]

anyone tested sg team vs soline yet

[hollow lagoon]

i have soline but i cant test

[swift mango]

Just remember, I really did deleted my SG team this CA.

[placid bloom]

Keripo tested and said she is okay

no vid though I think

[hollow lagoon]

i just

wanna pat the head

[tropic summit]

read this when you've rested up:

T1

• enemy T1 has splash damage and RH pressure on B1
• bay in p1 or p2 will take splash or direct dmg
• bay in p4 or p5 won't take any dmg from that lineup

you need multiple B1s to ensure you're bursting fine, rumani + flex b1 provided earlier will ensure you won't lose both, for any reason

team can then become

noise rumani helmt emilia bay (prefer a proper nuker, noise rumani cindy helmt bay)
or
rumani rapunzel cindy helmt bay

T2

you're just 76% to 2RL, you even put cinderella in there for what reason? she contributes nothing and won't even burst, her burst gen is the lowest in the game

let's assume you want to use a noah stall team, you'll want to avoid although noah in p1 to avoid being siren stunned, since you want to be 3RL to catch lib nuke, you can run a flex p1 that will likely get stunned

with all of that in mind, what can you do?

noise flexb1 vestiTU flex noah (3RL)

backup b1 to burst when noise is stunned, noah in p5 is fine, won't be stunned, vestiTU on 3RL will burst, both of you behind shields, lib damage is completely prevented, you can start then wrecking them with vesti superior DPS compared to lib

[crystal flicker]

I don't see Emi

[coarse lake]

don't believe in sg nayuta?

[placid bloom]

[shell hazel]

did you have one before?

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/re-zero-rezero-new-episode-subaru-emilia-smol-emilia-gif-20157520

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/kawaii-cute-gif-13400601

[swift mango]

My Nayuta is without SG. My win rate of SG Team in day one CA bracket when half the guys 80 research level above mine is roundly 5%. So just kick the team out is normal.

They reshuffle the bracket again and I'm with smol guys now... I should have built my CA team better, should I know.

[shell hazel]

emi would be many months before i started so maybe not impossible but sucks 🙁

but we both got tenshi and moran guy to deal with now as well they came with me

[uneven raptor]

Anyone?

[shell hazel]

@swift mango 8 CA cycle? that was 16 we just had

[tropic summit]

both need 8%CS, other batteris need 11% (siren resistance) or 15% (hit 0,5% thresholds)

[swift mango]

They were first reshuffle at CA 11. And now the reshuffle at CA 17. It's everywhere.

No, I guess they make it once every 3 months now

[shell hazel]

6 CA? 😮

6 CA would follow SPA logic as well

[placid bloom]

yes SPA group is what determines CA group

[shell hazel]

possibly we missed first ones as less obvious shuffles

[uneven raptor]

Thank you!

[swift mango]

Every 3 months. So not same time as SpA and Rookie reshuffle

[shell hazel]

SPA is every 6 as well

[swift mango]

Yes, but not same season as CA.

[shell hazel]

I guess when SPA shuffles we get yeeted ending after the 1st SPA on new shuffle

[placid bloom]

no first few didn't have big change after SPA shuffle because they still didn't update the matchmaking to fill in the bot spots on older brackets with more player, and just did hard account creation date cutoff

[shell hazel]

it makes sense as CA would be based on SPA groups

so we need to play out a whole 2 week season in new SPA group

[swift mango]

Idk how they reshuffle SEA though. It as tight as it is. Maybe making a 5th bracket again

[placid bloom]

now it should be no bots in any league other than newest one

[shell hazel]

it makes it very hard to win though, lots of players months ahead of me in terms of account age

I'm 234XX and I see people in 21XXX

[swift mango]

I even had people with Makima last season.

My team this season is very jank.

[oblique gyro]

what stage is that ?

[tropic summit]

sounds like something someone about to win championship this season would say

[shell hazel]

one of the random 32 hard mode ones. I skipped a few as not enough left to do 5 for outpost lol

[marble saddle]

@tropic summit well.... i was going to sleep but.... i noticed he changed his siren team so im back to thinking again

[tropic summit]

he won't let you sleep

[oblique gyro]

haha

[shell hazel]

I'm working for 461 for MC

[oblique gyro]

😮 GL

[shell hazel]

if I can do it then I will. if not might need some more levels

[shell hazel]

thanks 🙂

[oblique gyro]

i won't try it at 461, it feels overwhelming to me

[marble saddle]

he brought in rossana to t2 so now i need cindy to stay for t2

[tropic summit]

what will your MC team be like? decided to pickup Ada aftearll?

[shell hazel]

I'm building Ein and maybe Ada to do it lol

I'll start with Ein

[swift mango]

Doubt.
My Nayuta and Libby don't even have max burst skill.

I just make random teams for the heck of it.

[tropic summit]

uh that's peculiar, he's actually expecting to sacc

would be a shame if you ran a team that does not let him sacc

[shell hazel]

it won't be easy at 461 certainly, I think even if I can't do it then I should maybe just need some levels and cp instead of 481

I'm saving my materials now for it

gear xp, doll mats, rocks, and skill books

[tropic summit]

now the thing with rosanna and how she works:

• she seeks attackers, from left to right, first come first served
• if no attacker found, defaults to p1 and p2
• if at least one attacker found, 1 is taken out and the other hit is defaulted to p1

the other thing is that she gives burst gen whenever a unit is killed, the "sacc" strat
this applies for both enemy and friendlies

[shell hazel]

ein and ada are both SR-5 so I only have to jump from there to SR-15 if I want to

[marble saddle]

so she'll go for my laplace then

[tropic summit]

correct and p1

[shell hazel]

i'm PVE main again

going for 3% frames 😄

[marble saddle]

well i need her to go for jackal for the feed in anyway

[tropic summit]

that's another thing, rosanna breaks jackal link at 1RL

you get feed only from 0RL to 1RL

afteward, you lose damage distribution and feed from linked units

[oblique gyro]

i'll also aim for that soon

[gritty ridge]

Rail, I wanna build moran but I desperately need at least 1 more clip rl invested

[tropic summit]

@marble saddle either way removing siren made that team actually less threatening

[gritty ridge]

Do i put off moran for rumani

[tropic summit]

if you plan to use rumani on slow cindy in p1 or p2, she can stay blue doll

[gritty ridge]

I want rumani in p3 or p5

[tropic summit]

better get her SR15 then

[gritty ridge]

I just didnt get a doll for her this raid

[marble saddle]

yeah thats why i went back to thinking. so far idk if moving jackal to t1 is better or worse

[tropic summit]

oh this is nice

T1 is onpoint, T2 could be slightly improved but on point

[marble saddle]

hmm

[tropic summit]

you can punish their noah here, think you can see how?

[shell hazel]

you can do it, I got my first one last SR
I invested my pvp a lot for about a year lol but it's time to pve some. I'll still invest pvp but it should be less of my resources now

[tropic summit]

hint:

• noah is in p5
• enemy is 2.5RL at best

[marble saddle]

please dont tell me its by using siren?

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-thumb-up-ao-no-hako-aonohako-chouno-hina-gif-7736225372741218662

[marble saddle]

guess p2 siren coming up

[tropic summit]

ye and

there's another thing you need

[shell hazel]

|| is it sleep? ||

[tropic summit]

||that too he does||

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/nyaruhodo-hxh-hunter-x-hunter-neferpitou-anime-gif-11663505576349852877

[marble saddle]

i get the feeling someone is talking about my lack of sleep

[shell hazel]

[crystal flicker]

Whos Moran guy

Tenshi is meh

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

blanc pfp now, I'll point em out when I can

was moran pfp for a while, has won a few times in ours

call em moran guy still lol

my copy of khazan is here so time to kill some things

https://tenor.com/view/khazan-the-first-berserker-khazan-the-first-berserker-bats-nioh-gif-17763014073715853878

^this actually happened to me already lol

same exact spot :9

bats fly in and knock you off if you don't expect them 🙁

[marble saddle]

guess what?

[tropic summit]

changed team again?

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

maybe he's actually a good guy

he's trying to make you brainstorm

at 3AM

[shell hazel]

zlaw will sleep dreaming of arena matches

[tropic summit]

or become a murderer

[shell hazel]

"no bay you need 2RL" he shouts as he awakens from a nightmare

[marble saddle]

@tropic summit now this becomes a question of will his noise ger stunned or his noah?

[tropic summit]

if noise taunt priority, noise
if noah taunt priority, noah

although you've no way to find out until you run it, so don't take that path

[marble saddle]

what if i use emillia?

[tropic summit]

emi on same speed hits right after noah shield expires

[marble saddle]

instead of vesti

[tropic summit]

make sure emi is at least with 1 buffer tho

[gritty ridge]

One of my walls is not up to par

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/rwby-yang-no-shaking-head-smh-gif-17745322

[gritty ridge]

Am I missing any walls?

Those should be the main solo tanks

[marble saddle]

oh wait i cant use centi and biscuit

[swift mango]

No it's coffeein

[tropic summit]

ye you're not bursting with noah there

i mean you can still just indom it

it's good you trying to run mirror stall but you can also use indom if you wanna wrap it up

[tropic summit]

solution

[tropic summit]

that's good, both win

good job

[marble saddle]

dont say that yet. he could change again

[tropic summit]

more practice for you, he's making you stronger by the minute you just solved it alone

[marble saddle]

prob cause its the same team as before

[tropic summit]

similar archetype ye

[marble saddle]

and i stopped trying to noah it

[swift mango]

Another one of those recruiters. The 4th one. Now they asked a game that I don't even know wtf it is.

[tropic summit]

none of those DM'ing me

[marble saddle]

yeah he changed again

[tropic summit]

show maybe he's just rotating between 3 teams

[swift mango]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.dragonsneck.com/&ved=2ahUKEwi8sPHOnoSRAxUnr1YBHWM2BzEQFnoECEAQAQ&sqi=2&usg=AOvVaw0WHEIjTN98fxge706TFGog

FR, who tf play this?

[tropic summit]

good question, imagine having the time for that

[marble saddle]

vesti in t2 now
emillia in t3

[leaden canyon]

rail i forgot to record the attack but round 1 and 3 won, round 2 lost