pvp-arena

[gritty ridge]

Ive put 60 ish rocks in so far

[slate falcon]

I don’t wanna do any more but I have to

Not even my Cindy is blessed with good role and she’s supposed to be beautiful

[raven plover]

18% cs

[swift mango]

Good for only 20 rocks. You could use her as battery.

+1000*

[onyx scaffold]

1 atk line 🤣

[swift mango]

Good enough

[onyx scaffold]

Yeah cs built vesti means blanc being her best friend. Not a bad vesti

[tropic summit]

he's probably running a RNG based lineup, e.g. mirror scarlet or rosanna relying on critting your units

ultra perma 🧱 , it's bayover

what is this team? rookie? CA? SP?

in general you don't need biscuit with jackal, because this screams to the opponent "skip me because the other 2 teams are easier"

[swift mango]

Somehow I forgot to reply to this but look at my name.

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

Red Hood, Crown, and Red Hood again lol

[hollow lagoon]

Bro must SAS a lot

Or SAD

[shell hazel]

I did maybe for a while but I think it's just bugged out somehow lol

[covert lintel]

So hard to get blue cs

[swift mango]

Who told you to lock AtK.

That's digging yourself a hole

[quick lake]

expensive reroll

[shell hazel]

it's expensive anyway going for blue line cs 5/100 chance or 1/20

[wise horizon]

Curious if this works

[fathom rock]

2rl vs 3rl noah block emi

[slate falcon]

It’s SP, im using them both here because this team is already established and my 3rd team i just a cp pad with not very good PvP units so it not worth putting any of them on the 3rd team.

[slate falcon]

I think she won’t be killing so yeah , she in decent team so I just have to hope the opponent be too scared to challenge since they don’t know of my trash roles

[wise horizon]

Indom Emilia? Blanc/Emilia/RH/Biscuit/Centi?

[fathom rock]

Will work if same speed as opponent and emi is invested

[tropic summit]

@fathom rock looks like it wasn't just you who bricked

[fathom rock]

atleast you lasted for all he events

[tropic summit]

blondies

[tropic summit]

interesting

[quick lake]

Mine was Liter Rh Rh

[tropic summit]

they missed their chance to state the 3 top failure rate stages

and how many failed attempts it needed to clear that stage

pretty sure mine would something like

1. MC - over 200 attempts
2. MW - over 100 attempts
3. cucumber/vulkan/CC - over 100 attempts

[crystal flicker]

You're actually active before my PvP

[covert lintel]

But i need that atk

[runic spear]

I'm changing up my SP Def Team, and I'm not sure of the cubes to use, a third possible squad, and if these comps are good enough

[tropic summit]

T1: misindom can be enforced against that team with 1 or more snipers, as anis will inevitably then have lowest HP
T2: if your team isn't 11%CS team wide and 2RL, that team can be stunned preventing noah

[runic spear]

I don't have Emilia

I'm just gonna ask for help on SP def building, I look at that list in the pins an feel overwhelmed

[onyx scaffold]

How so

[onyx scaffold]

Locking atk on line 2 is fine

It simply means u commit.
Think about the cost it takes to get a black line

[slate falcon]

I didn’t even use Cindy that much

[shell hazel]

red hood b2 user spotted

[haughty mortar]

When I submitted mine yesterday, I actually failed to realize this. How TF was RH being used as a B2 so much?! I used crown most of the time..........

[slate falcon]

Guilty

[umbral belfry]

almost 1 year

[swift mango]

Well, if he committed or lucky enough that would be good result in the end.
Good luck for him.

[swift mango]

Then keep rolling and don't worry about the expense. After 200 rocks you should just stop counting.

[swift mango]

To clarify he need a 2% line. Which should be 50 reroll on average or 100 rocks with 1 lock. Provide he is lucky enough that is

[dense roost]

Hey guys! Back to messing with my local rookie arena nerd. Anyone got anything good/spicy for defense? Trying to throw some curveballs so he doesnt keep spamming me braindead because I got him beat on SPA

Noah/Bisc/Helm/Rosanna/LapT
Jackal/Siren/Scar team
Jackal/Siren/VestiTU/Noah

apparently exhausted, so looking for something new to mess with this mans gems

[onyx scaffold]

6h credit

it was so close to kill his noah

[tropic summit]

if you've rosanna or soda built you can add some pressure or RNG factor

you can also try with indom vestiTU or double threat

try either of these

[swift mango]

Everyone is bricking

No more excuse that you have low level because you didn't gem claim .

[tropic summit]

doesn't that thing only mean you missed 1 day? although as far as i remember i never did

might be a maintenance that took longer than 12hours

[swift mango]

:

[onyx scaffold]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1315285264947613726/1438535670284029982/Nikke.Exe_2025.11.13_-_21.20.04.01.mp4?ex=69173c3e&is=6915eabe&hm=8184b15f8018859e3170f5bf5a9bbb4c3b251fe3c7bcf3f35b1d9abc46a564dd&

Why didn't that Noah die faster for good?

[tropic summit]

that 1% atk OL missing

[swift mango]

RNG god hate you

[onyx scaffold]

My SG mirror was in disadvantage :((

[tropic summit]

when is arknights endfield comin' out

[swift mango]

Maybe they would take my suggestion?

[swift mango]

Idk, nor that I care, different game altogether.

[swift mango]

My SG always lose against virtual any good team while their SG always beat my ass.

[swift mango]

I mean I also missed out in early days and had to gem claim to backnit up.

A whole 1-2 day at the start thanks to reroll around then come back to it. And 2 events not full cleared. (Elegg event I start on its last week though).

[uncut cradle]

who should i pair noise with?

[umbral belfry]

@jagged mesa sure would be a shame if you failed your cheer now

[swift mango]

I mean, I advised her from trust level 1 to 30 with almost no gift.

No one gonna surpass that for the rest of the game

[swift mango]

Nosh

[wild drum]

Anyone seen rail

[dense roost]

Thanks! Will add to the rotation. Appreciate it as always

[hollow lagoon]

oh the harran is cute

[swift mango]

He was just here 1 hour ago

[wild drum]

Aww man

[jagged mesa]

Did I even win cup v radeki rd 2

[umbral belfry]

cup won so

if you voted for him yes

[jagged mesa]

hehehehe

Hehehe

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAA

See u guys in 2 weeks

[umbral belfry]

LMAOOOO

[radiant coral]

Does anyone here know if cup or dpx would win?

[umbral belfry]

uhhh lemme see

dpx wins

well

yeah its oof

he wins t1, t4 and t5

and potentially t3

[radiant coral]

[umbral belfry]

another fellow pie eaten

[radiant coral]

Dang

So mihara team usually wins against scarlet soda?

[umbral belfry]

not always but that variation does

p1 rumani and p2 blanc basically confirms rumani won't die before she bursts and get indom

so they just kill with DoT

but maybe he'll be unlucky and miss people

[patent sail]

Who would win?

[umbral belfry]

rh

[radiant coral]

Oh right because of biscuit

[umbral belfry]

p1 rumani is the best slow cindy variation at beating scar

any other pos it depends on her living nuke

[radiant coral]

Wish I got a mihara to test that comp

[umbral belfry]

[radiant coral]

And then for the last team, noah just tanks liberalio’s burst im guessing?

[patent sail]

[umbral belfry]

noah completely blocks lib and then b1 b3 rh just destroys

[umbral belfry]

rh died

[radiant coral]

Is there no chance for Cup’s lib to not tear through the first two pos or are they just too tanky

[umbral belfry]

unlikely for lib and helm to get through moran yes

[radiant coral]

Ok

Sound reasonings thanks

[umbral belfry]

the only way i can see cup winning is if helm nukes b2 rh but ehhh

[radiant coral]

That’s really unlikely

[umbral belfry]

precisely

[covert lintel]

Before getting and locked atk
I did about 90 rocks

[ornate zealot]

I ......have never made it this far. I guess if i lose. 2nd place doesnt feel that bad.

[umbral belfry]

gl

[ornate zealot]

Shuya if you are here, i dont think i can win against you. Still its kinda nice.

[lost ether]

who would win between the 2? i think left should win cuz defender advantage

[onyx scaffold]

what is defender advantage

[umbral belfry]

left imo

[umbral belfry]

xmaid basically for rosa

[onyx scaffold]

-. -

[covert lintel]

@raven plover His luck ran out immediately after he beat me

[scarlet adder]

sbs hit just one guy in pvp, not like other RL two?

[flat fern]

what should I be looking at for cheers

just need to lose one more for frame

[swift mango]

Rail is dead. Sorry he isn't around to give you team anymore.

[swift mango]

[quasi sluice]

@swift mango

Did Vesti charge spd is good ? Comparing to 4 atk 4 ele

[swift mango]

@worldly osprey really it's his time. Been ages since he last got to final. I think it was season 2 and you beat him.

[swift mango]

Not really. But you would want at least 5%. 15% next good stop. Then 21%.

[quasi sluice]

Comparing to mirror match the 15% is better than normal atk ele charge dmg?

Im still confused about this character hahaha

[swift mango]

Not really. It's just more burst gen. And maybe getting another round of 4 in comparing to 0% CS in a 2rl indom team.

But then you would need 20 ammo instead of 16

[quasi sluice]

But on the first second the number u can output dmg is better than 0% right ?

[onyx scaffold]

with 4 cs vesti. u can run blanc setup and enough ammo then u can shoot everything
with 4 atk 8 crit. u can kill mostly if not everything before bursting assume team has emi and/or laplace

[quasi sluice]

I confused about the dmg before burst which one is better

[onyx scaffold]

[quasi sluice]

Thx u 🫡

[swift mango]

It depends. Supposed you invested enough and both Vesti could kill each other at 4th normal attack. The Vesti with more CS would kill the Vesti without a little faster.

But I don't recommend getting more than 3 CS (or 15%) on her unless you had something specific in mind.

[worldly osprey]

yeah, i still remember that too long for him to make it back to the finals. hopefully this will be his first championship win

[round radish]

i know this is a general question but what's the best rookie arena team? this is what i have now

[limpid urchin]

uuhhhh, why did I ever change my mind.

[flat fern]

stall vs burst

[clever kindle]

Hi guys, can you help me with this cheer? Please, I need that frame T . T

[swift mango]

At equal investment, stall lose

[flat fern]

and lastly this

[swift mango]

Their is no general best team. Your team is good enough. But whatever best for you is defending on you and your competitor

[swift mango]

Noah p2 could be killed before she burst. But in case she burst both team would be about equal.

[flat fern]

ty ty

[clever kindle]

It seems to be the same match I'm cheering for. But unlike you, I need to earn one more hehe. Who are you cheering for?

[flat fern]

idek

I'm having a hard time deciding, it really comes down to like two teams

[tropic summit]

prefer teams that are

• 2RL
• have stun/stall/indom or rosanna pressure
• are not siren or SG vulnerable
• have high general CP
• have anti nuke or nuke resistance

[clever kindle]

Yeah, this one is a little difficult.

I'm leaving the full match here just in case you guys can help with this one ty

[fickle jetty]

any idea for this

[leaden canyon]

@tropic summit

He actually changed it

[wild drum]

@tropic summit can you help
#pvp-arena message

[tropic summit]

crown biscuit sbs neon centi
nayuta naga rh anis drake
auto

[tropic summit]

show the 3 teams

2 of those teams are copypasta'ed

[tropic summit]

if you already know their team isn't 11CS% wide, you can run this (on the left)

[leaden canyon]

the third is still the nero moran helm viper drake

[tropic summit]

alternatively, as the one above is risky on siren, run this, you're on the left, s.anis lvl9 burst, no ammo OL

[tropic summit]

were you lethal with scar-jack against it?

[leaden canyon]

I hadn't sent in the attack yet

I could still test it

[tropic summit]

well let's attempt beating that 2RL splash team

[leaden canyon]

I was thinking jackal blanc biscuit rapi helm, 2.5RL against his 2RL

[tropic summit]

your s.anis is bricked

lvl 9+ burst no ammo

[fickle jetty]

it is alr like that

[tropic summit]

can switch approach to a different DPS then

RH will do

gonna need temperance on her to survive rosanna

assuming opponent rosanna isn't stacked to still 1hitko

[fickle jetty]

how about vesti

[tropic summit]

still same condition, you gotta survive rosanna if you use an attacker

s.anis is not an attacker so you can avoid rosanna, but if she's not built properly you can't use her

another alternative open is using slow cindy

nayuta midhara rumani biscuit cindy

this one needs nayuta to NOT be 1st or 2nd highest atk% in the team

so if you're unsure, use blanc instead of nayuta

[fickle jetty]

ahh... rumani again

any other unit to replace rumani

[tropic summit]

since they're using rosanna, you can use jackal instead as your link breaks and mihara dies anyway

blanc mihara biscuit cindy jackal

[tropic summit]

well mirror indom is an option open

[leaden canyon]

Thats really the only way I know how to kill that team lol

[tropic summit]

they do lack lethal on p4 and p5

[fickle jetty]

cp too low

[tropic summit]

oh nvm it's vesti bursting not emi

[tropic summit]

show your box

[wind kelp]

Well i'll be, both 4 and 5 lost their attempts at my 3 defense. To note, it's been a back and forth with them for whole season. Guess i finally got the teams in suitable condition 😄 (that or putting 13 truckloads of stuff into nayuta and especially libby, might've helped).

[leaden canyon]

I guess this works right?

[tropic summit]

T3 loses

you need to 1hitko cindy or she gets biscuit buff

makes you wonder if he actually went all bases and nayuta isn't rosanna weak in there

else you could deny both B2s

scar trina ros flex jackal

but you're gambling on nayuta being 1st or 2nd highest atk%

best way there would be to delete cindy

double buff scar probably would be the optimal choice as long as you're overkilling

or double buff lib

which would be a curious test as i lack data but it seems to 1hitko pre biscuit stack application

[leaden canyon]

if I take jackal off round 2 I'm actually not sure how to kill it

[tropic summit]

oh

[leaden canyon]

I do have two attempts to use

[leaden canyon]

I can test lib for round 3 but not sure how to kill round 2 if jackal not there

[tropic summit]

think the cheapest way to solve is using lib on double buff then commit to either moran/nero or this vesti team

lib team can be as slow as 3RL

and can put a flex b3 to get stunned

[leaden canyon]

so its jackal lib and what?

[tropic summit]

nah

[formal plume]

any idea how to deal with this kind of teams?

[tropic summit]

this leaves a lot of resources open

helm, noah, jackal are open

tbf can probably bench blanc for any other generic b2 buffer

whoever is on your highest CP will do

this leaves the option to either commit with scar-jack or deal with vesti team

i'd go for the safer approach and try dealing with moran on hyperbuffed scar or vesti

[leaden canyon]

I guess grave?

[tropic summit]

up to your box, any b2 buffer will do

see whatever fits on CP requirement

[leaden canyon]

cp is not an issue on these teams

hes within range with anything

[tropic summit]

oh can probably save RH too

@leaden canyon final draft probably this

lib needs to be invested tho, 7/7/10

[leaden canyon]

So will vesti allow me to kill moran after the fact? beecause I did scarlet trina hood nuke at before at deficit and he only had moran left over which killed me

[leaden canyon]

yeah shes all 10

[tropic summit]

vesti will also be on RH buff

good luck moran tanking buffed true dmg

plus moran won't be full hp when you're bursting, due to scar s2s and vesti early pressure

arguably blanc would do better there but it will be a nice damage test

this will be juicy 🍿 as interaction between lib nuke and biscuit stack on dying unit will be new to me

[tropic summit]

see if this is in deficit, if not run it and record

[tropic summit]

you're in deficit

this is pointless again

well w/e at least you get to test RRH mirror and lib damage

[leaden canyon]

On the nero team? always has been deficit

[tropic summit]

ye i dunno if that will be lethal then, but worth a shot

[leaden canyon]

I meant not in deficit on the other two teams

[tropic summit]

move team to

scar trina vestiTU rh jackal

that way if scar dies you've at least backup B3

[leaden canyon]

I actually just made that adjustment before you said that lmao

[tropic summit]

eh good thinking

[leaden canyon]

that timing is crazy

[tropic summit]

try this, you're on the left

if you missing those units post your box so i don't have to guess what you got

[haughty mortar]

Need a team to beat this fast! Please

[tropic summit]

T1 noah biscuit cindy helmt rumani
T2 skip
T3 scar trina rh centi jackal

[leaden canyon]

Tripple loss btw

[tropic summit]

oh the irony, liter is your highest attack ofc, you need a B1 that is lower attack than blanc, biscuit and cindy

once that is done, you'll be able to do this

[haughty mortar]

So just swap T2 and 3 got it ty!

[tropic summit]

ye should do, right you don't have cindy but ein probably ok

[haughty mortar]

A NEW RISING STAR! TT STAR!

This guy seems a 🐳 He was also annoying me in rookie

[tropic summit]

T3 was in deficit?

T2 you got blanc bug nice

a classic

[leaden canyon]

no

[fickle jetty]

non of my b1 has lower atk than blanc..

[tropic summit]

why is alice dying so fast

[tropic summit]

lower attack than biscuit or cindy is also fine

just not highest attack in that team

[leaden canyon]

his cindy is cracked, I think she has full black line attack

[tropic summit]

think you're probably locked then

you've to deal with t2 and t3

[fickle jetty]

thank you

[tropic summit]

@leaden canyon thinking you just facetank emilia

[hollow lagoon]

[leaden canyon]

face tank emilia?

[tropic summit]

we can deny her indom with siren

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/smash-anime-gif-21692315

[tropic summit]

or force laplace to burst

that'd also work

amazing how this team is still 2RL

need to calibrate if this is lethal on laplace, gonna need an attempt to test waters

if it is can then sub vesti for someone else

@leaden canyon this should fix T3 issue, T2 gonna be curious

[leaden canyon]

alice and hood would be linked, thats fine right?

[tropic summit]

although hopefully 3 snipers won't pop cindy invul before nuke lands, else it will backfire

[leaden canyon]

does alice get tempering?

[tropic summit]

then again it might get rumani ironically killed first

[tropic summit]

ye p1 needs to be linked

alice can run temperance, run quantum on lib and jackal

noah, helmt and vesti temperance too

biscuit vigor, ros w/e

if this fails it's time to launch operation 5 snipers

https://tenor.com/view/tobiichi-origami-anime-date-a-live-sniper-gif-17353119

[leaden canyon]

uh-oh. it actually won

I should have snipped with it

[tropic summit]

you didn't record?

[leaden canyon]

I did

[tropic summit]

my popcorns

eagerly awaiting le vid

[tropic summit]

unbelivable, this denies their RL

the timing is perfect

it then leads to helm to snipe emilia after B2 is applied

and emilia is highest HP, so it indoms jackal

the solution was misindom all along

[leaden canyon]

Now I just hope he doesn't log in to snipe his spot back

[tropic summit]

@leaden canyon tasty 1hitko

@quick lake @swift mango

biscuit stack doesn't apply to cindy if she's 1hitko'ed

interesting, this was good data

[leaden canyon]

Anything for the data

[swift mango]

Ofc Cindy wouldn't get biscuits s2 if she was already dead. the problem is that she didn't get biscuit s2 when she were alive too.

[timber depot]

Could I get some team building help lads 🙏

I got a lot of pvp units since last time

[tropic summit]

both biscuit and cindy got 1hitko at same time, it's probably that

[placid bloom]

Biscuit never protect from OHKO though

[tropic summit]

we've seen cases before where moran noah teams with a biscuit would survive emilia's buffed nuke even tho it was lethal with 1 hp

and it was kinda iffy, as in sometimes it happened sometimes it didn't

[placid bloom]

I'd had p1 tank get one-shot from 90% by defending Ros SG

from Ros B1

[shell hazel]

all for the sake of the data

[swift mango]

like I said, it's normal. But the weird thing I notice in this update is that, if Cindy alive but biscuit dies and Cindy wouldn't get biscuit s2.

[placid bloom]

maybe depends on position

for game to check damage and trigger order

can't resolve all effects at the same time

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• jackal siren cindy anchorIM centi
• crown helmt grave rh pepper
• noise nayuta sbs drake rumani

**Notes: **

• trina in synchro, wishlist noah, scarlet, vestiTU

[timber depot]

I own vesti tu, and yeah scarlets in there but havent hit

[tropic summit]

upgrade vestiTU then when you got the resources and chance

she can replace SBS in third team

and SBS can then replace drake

(CP pad)

[timber depot]

its so difficult making teams bc i drop so much CP doing it

but theres a guy 100k lower cp than me overall and hes been finding ways to beat me pretty often

How do you guys go about learning how to make pvp teams, just a ton of experience playing the mode?

[tropic summit]

both rookie and SP arena can be easy because attacker has the advantage of abusing counters

[tropic summit]

honestly, i think the average lad can get competent enough within hours

just learn about burst gen and the main core units, then it's a matter of playing lego to always have advantage

[timber depot]

How do you guys know what order to place units? I know to protect b1, but sometimes saying to put jackal in p4, or a taunter in p4

I know p1 gets targetting by most guns so you place someone tanky in there, and then in my mind it then makes sense to put a taunter in p5 to move some damage over there to spread it out

[tropic summit]

this is very situational, as on attack you've a lot more freedom

on defense you've to account for several weak links, as you said a squishy p1 for example

[heavy hearth]

Is this the correct positioning?

[tropic summit]

@timber depot

typical defense teams should always consider the following:

• avoid a single vulnerable burst tier unit
• avoid teams weak to SGs pressure
• avoid teams with heavy feed
• avoid teams that can be stunned by siren
• average CP should always be high, else it's abusable by campaign teams
• aim for 2RL or 2.5RL teams, at worst 3RL but no slower
• ensure teams are running indom, stalling or anti nuke / nuke resistance

[tropic summit]

ye it is for slow cindy team

[timber depot]

Yeah I nearly lost even with cp advantage due to an indom nayuta just eating damage

[heavy hearth]

Thanks boss

[timber depot]

I imagine counter to indom is aoe nukes

so the team dies even inf indom lives

[tropic summit]

depends, some you can stall them, some you want to kill them right off before they start

[quartz rover]

HUH

[timber depot]

So these teams bring my defense from 508k total to 464k total, maybe 475k total with some light touch ups. 3rd team which I think was the CP pad is actually the lowest, 2nd team is highest

[shell hazel]

true pvper

[shell hazel]

baby units

[timber depot]

😭

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-5385805585024966559

[timber depot]

my drake isnt treasured yet since I dont have collection mats, but I do plan to make her treasure once I have enough

thats probably like 12k power more ish

[tropic summit]

CP is very low on 3rd option, probably best doing 2 proper teams and 1 CP padded team

[quartz rover]

went from 3 to 9 in one night

what the shit

[shell hazel]

it's because you didn't run vesti

[quartz rover]

vesti was in different team

stupid nayuta

[shell hazel]

there are two vestis

@oblique gyro crusadia guy made it all the way to the finals vs tenshi lol

[tropic summit]

change your teams to these, 3rd team auto with w/e is left on high CP

[quartz rover]

nayuta is such a troll pvp nikke

this spa sucks ass

not investing in pvp anymore

[timber depot]

Hows this for a 3rd team? 126k cp, first team in your ss is 202, second 179 so those are good

I can maybe bring it to 130k ish

[shell hazel]

free pull 😮

[tropic summit]

nah if CP is so low best just run a high CP team albeit slow

[timber depot]

auto is 133k

[tropic summit]

oh wow

i guess your best invested units are all gone into the other 2

that will do then

[timber depot]

im trying to balance giving scraps to pvp when I can, while focusing on pve

Im going to get drake treasure next since its good in both and thatll boost 3rd team a lot

[shell hazel]

drake treasure not that useful for pvp tbh

not really anyway

[timber depot]

it is for pve though, and itll help with CP and is a decent dps in pvp

Im investing cinderella atm since im walled in campaign, thatll help

[shell hazel]

not that useful in pve either sadly lol

not in campaign anyway

tower a bit

[timber depot]

oh nah, just solo raid

[shell hazel]

sg team for raids

[timber depot]

for campaign im sorted on good teams

[shell hazel]

but you'd be better off with pve meta + raid unit

lapT is a better treasure for pvp

you do want drakeT for raids eventually though

Drake can work OK in pvp too just there are better options

[timber depot]

yeah for sure thats the angle im trying to approach it from, prioritizing pve units that i want to invest, that will also help in pvp

LaplaceT is a unit ill be aiming for but I dont have her yet, I do have boxes to instant finish her fav item though

[quartz rover]

solo raid pog

[severe nimbus]

kinda torn on this...im leaning towards the left side being the winner?

[shell hazel]

may you all get purple RL dolls on today's solo raid

[leaden canyon]

oh thats the weeptrap and cryo fight isn't it

[timber depot]

ty

[severe nimbus]

yup LOL

[leaden canyon]

just vote weeptrap, he has the most wins besides keripo

[timber depot]

Is it better for Drake to burst, or SBS?

They have same doll, SBS has 1 OL slightly higher CP

29k vs 32k for their cp, just not sure which does more

[gaunt pulsar]

sbs better, unless you wanna hit jackal linked unit with drake so her dmg shares, she gonna kill 1 or 2 units max with her burst, it's not full aoe

[timber depot]

appreciate it

its my weakest team anyway but just wanted to fix that just incase

people will need a 152.5k team to cp gap it anyway which at my stage isnt incredibly common, it wont be hard to gap but it should require atleast 1-2 high invested units

[leaden canyon]

keep in mind if sbs is bursting, biscuit plus a defender and counter it

also a blanc team always counters nayuta

[timber depot]

yeah currently the only guy thats been beating me does have Biscuit, but if he has to spend Biscuit for my weak team that'd be huge for me

[leaden canyon]

well there are a few ways to deal with it. like blanc indom lasts longer than nayuta indom so you just get countered like that as well

or even moran helm would out stall that

[timber depot]

yeah im quite lacking on units theres a ton of stuff I cant cover

[bitter trout]

How to beat them?

[leaden canyon]

that noah can be siren stunned

2RL scar jackal siren team can kill that, you dont even need siren in p1 or p2

noah in p1 can be stunned by siren in any position

[oak hatch]

Should I put a doll on rumani or biscuit first?

[leaden canyon]

Biscuit I'd say, shes pretty important

[quartz rover]

Today's? I thought it started today

Now I'm a day behind on SR? im quitting

[shell hazel]

we just had reset so if you did 1-3 before then it's 4-6 now

solo raid always kicks off between the resets, as dumb as it is

[quartz rover]

These random coop and solo raid times are annoying

[dim escarp]

@crystal flicker did not see the team but going for you watever

you got this

[quartz rover]

It doesnt even pop up like a lot of other announcements

[haughty mortar]

Do I change my teams?

[timber depot]

yeah I only noticed bc I checked my phone last night, and yeah today we can hit lv6

[bitter trout]

I'm getting wiped

[severe tundra]

I am up against a similar team with Noise over Jackal and I can't crack it either.

I spent a bunch of resources boosting Soda to stun them, but their charge speed is probably much higher than mine.

[bitter trout]

Bestie is inane to get through

[shell hazel]

are you on comparable power?

[bitter trout]

Ya I’m on the deficit

[shell hazel]

what kind of deficit?

[tropic summit]

T1 against T3, T2 can stay as is

T1 give RH instead of rumani for this one

[shell hazel]

I ask because a lot of people say they're on a deficit but they don't truly understand what being on a deficit means 😛

[oak hatch]

Do I give nayuta, jackal, scarlet, or Ada a purple doll? Nayuta and Ada both without blue dolls

[shell hazel]

Ada is down that list in priority in general imo

nayuta is good for pve and reasonable for pvp, but she's not campaign meta, that is still crown

[oak hatch]

Yeah i haven’t got to use nayuta much

[shell hazel]

you don't want to go straight to purple dolls anyway

R-15 needed then swap

[oak hatch]

I’d have to wait for next solo raid then if I want a chance at blue dolls

Or maybe I can combine some dolls

[shell hazel]

combine only works for purple really

blue ones will turn to more purples or doll mats

[oak hatch]

Do I just give a purple doll to jackal or scarlet then, and then try to build nayuta in the future?

[shell hazel]

what doll level are they both on atm?

and what dolls do you have to give out?

[oak hatch]

R15

[severe tundra]

If Trina doesn't burst, scarlet doesn't get an attack increase from her, right?

[tropic summit]

yes running trina without bursting kills scarlet damage output

if running scarlet trina needs to burst

[oak hatch]

Only have a blue rl doll rn

Was planning to give it to biscuit

[tropic summit]

think about it in terms of CP rather

which of your core team is lacking CP, the one that runs biscuit or the one that runs jackal

since your most likely attack teams are going to be

noah bis flex flex flex
scar flex flex flex jackal

archetypes

[oak hatch]

Going to put the blue doll on biscuit since her cp is low while jackal already has a maxed blue but trying to figure out who to use my doll selector on

[tropic summit]

keep it, you'll most likely need it for RL units

show me your box

i can then tell you priority based on that

[oak hatch]

I have a sbs way down in my box but probably gonna be a while till she’s getting built

• the doll selector from tomorrow

[timber depot]

damn im jealous of all those maxed dolls, jeez. im sync 211 started 2 months ago I only have 5 sr15, 5r15

[oak hatch]

Yeah got quite lucky on the previous solo raid but I guess that luck is gone for the current one

[shell hazel]

you'll get most of what you need eventually

[timber depot]

I also have maybe 7 r5-10 blues so if I work on all those itll look better ig

[tropic summit]

pvp wise, your main attack teams

V1

vestiTU blanc rh centi jackal
noah biscuit lib helmt noise

V2

scarlet blanc rh centi jackal
noah biscuit vestiTU helmt noise

i'd say make sure you keep 1 mat for helm cuz you want her treasured as soon as possible

i'd go for noah/biscuit/blanc/noise

[timber depot]

im prob going to be using this SR selector on SG for Drake treasure since I dont have any other treasures ready to pop

[tropic summit]

overall noah and blanc would take priority for doll

[shell hazel]

noah imo over blanc

[tropic summit]

blanc more than noah, noah can have biscuit

[shell hazel]

you don't always need blanc/indom to run, you basically always want a noah

[oak hatch]

So purple on blanc and the blue doll on biscuit?

[tropic summit]

all of those units should be R15 tbh

but ye SR5 can go first on blanc or noah depending on the overall CP of the teams above

assemble those 2 teams and see what's your CP with them

check CP @oak hatch

• scarlet blanc rh centi jackal
• noah biscuit vesiTU lib rumani

until you've helm these 2 will be your best friends

[shell hazel]

I'd potentially consider the purple for scar if you run her a lot as well, depends how built she is and how much you use her

lets you get to SR-15 and as a dps it has some good value

blanc noah etc can prob survive OK on R-15 for now

I've been playing a year and have 28 x SR-15 so it's about 2 per month or a bit over

[gritty ridge]

[flat fern]

gonna try again @clever kindle

[oak hatch]

Just maxed rare doll on biscuit, rumani still no doll

[tropic summit]

oh very nicely balanced actually

[flat fern]

trying to figure out who to root for (or in my case, who is gonna lose) cuz some of the teams here are really close

like that team 3

[oak hatch]

I use her a lot in PvP but her build isn’t really good and still missing an equipment

[oak hatch]

Is scarlet blanc good even with just 1 ammo line?

[fast nest]

I came back to final.

[shell hazel]

scarlet doesn't want ammo really

[tropic summit]

scarlet actually prefers only 1 ammo OL, as she remains siren immune that way

[shell hazel]

the tale of the two doros

[tropic summit]

only indom scarlet variant wants high ammo count

[fast nest]

I have a question. Even though 10 wins, CA rank board doesnt change. is it correct?

[umbral belfry]

@onyx scaffold how'd that sg nayu and sg poli matchup go

[umbral belfry]

and neither with doro pfp 😭

[shell hazel]

damn that is true. Cursed

[gaunt pulsar]

L
R
L
R
L
but just guessing, no idea on some of them

[oak hatch]

@tropic summit @shell hazel so what should my final decision be to put the sr doll on? Kinda tempted to put on scarlet but I’ll probably need more rl dolls down the road

[flat fern]

I think it's further skewed towards L but some of the teams are really close

somewhat difficult for me to gauge

[shell hazel]

RL dolls are in short supply if you're investing in pvp

[gaunt pulsar]

no idea about 3rd and 5th, can go either way i guess

[shell hazel]

so in theory it's a good thing to get and use those, and then RNG AR doll can go to scar

[tropic summit]

i'd say blanc because you'll have to run her in p2 or potentially against pressure more often than noah, as she'll always be likely with biscuit

as for scarlet, she's fine on R15, she'll be always linked

[shell hazel]

though blanc is also AR

[oak hatch]

Oh yeah forgot about blanc being ar

How is jackal over those options instead or is Noah more important? And then try to get ar dolls from rng?

[gaunt pulsar]

you mean frame? or what board

[tropic summit]

R15 already allows you to run indom vestiTU just fine, as you remember

you don't need to touch jackal before blanc/noah tbh

she'll be very useful on SR15 only when you can start using her in p1

as she'll take less dmg which results less dmg also on the linked units

[shell hazel]

note that eventually you'll get dolls for everyone

it takes a while but it will happen in the end

personally most efficient is the one you need the most of

or the one to raise the meta pve unit

[fast nest]

this kind of thinig

[oak hatch]

When would this be? I use her on p1 sometimes to outspeed siren stun

[flat fern]

I hope we all can reach that point of being able to exchange dolls

[tropic summit]

when you've helmT to distribute better your burst gen units

[shell hazel]

those do not change until after the CA ends, which it hasn't yet

[gaunt pulsar]

well they didn't announced reset yet, so we fight until someone gets 30 wins probably because there is a frame for that

[fast nest]

you mean so far there is nothing for 10 wins. right?

Left attack right defense

[fast nest]

I meant for rank board, not for frame.

[gaunt pulsar]

nothing

[fast nest]

If I win this then I gonna leave this CA competition.

[gaunt pulsar]

there nothing besides frames at all, and 10 wins is so far JP only iirc

[shell hazel]

I think I'd vote get an RL doll based on how many RL units I've got on SR-15 lol

I have like 3 AR ones, blanc, scar, moran

there's a couple more I want but it's like 12 or so RL units on SR-15

you'll want something for nayuta though for sure, shame you don't have an SMG one for her at least a blue one, but going right to SR-0 on purple can hurt

[gaunt pulsar]

RL drop rate must be intentionally lower or something that's why i'm still saving all my selectors

[shell hazel]

if you do the pvp RL is much more needed than the others

like half my SR-15 are RL units

so from efficiency perspective you're less likely to overflow/waste RL dolls for a while, hence I'd get one of those

[oak hatch]

Yeah definitely see rl as being valuable since arena is mostly rl units, probably gonna use it on Noah like rail recommended

[autumn owl]

Guys does Nayuta and liberalio can use on pvp(special arena) or isn't a good idea

[shell hazel]

yeah sounds like a plan

[autumn owl]

And which could be a good team composition for them?

[tropic summit]

liberalio nuke needs time to land, so you'll want her either indom or in a stall team
nayuta can be used as flex p1 if you need a tank and buffer or a flex p5 if you need shield against SGs when attacking

[quartz vortex]

adjutant on rapunzel?

[tropic summit]

that's situational, run vigor instead for general purpose

[autumn owl]

Well I'm kinda new on pvp , I don't know too much about it, I would like to use them on pvp cuz I did a full investment on them, while my current special arena teams, most of my nikkes have a poor investment

[tropic summit]

ok, you can share your box in this chat and i can look what teams you could run with those units

you can post it in this format
#pvp-arena message

[autumn owl]

Are u there?

[tropic summit]

ye?

[quartz vortex]

for atk teams should forcus more on power or burst too

[autumn owl]

Can I share in this chat my nikkes

[tropic summit]

ye go ahead

ok you've a good pool of invested core units

[autumn owl]

Currently I only have a team in special arena, that is my best,I need at least a second one if I want to increase my rank

[autumn owl]

This one is my unique good team

[tropic summit]

• jackal siren scarlet trina drakeT
• noah biscuit lib laplaceT rumani
• nayuta helmt rh emilia centi

[autumn owl]

Usually I win mostly of the time but my other two sucks

[tropic summit]

highly suggest you get vestiTU aswell

for the rest you've a good pool of core units already built

can increase CP on noah biscuit trina centi and emilia

[autumn owl]

But I need invested on her

[tropic summit]

ye you will

7/7/10 SR5 11%CS 20%atk 2ammo OLs would be ideal

until then tho the teams above are decent enough

[autumn owl]

So I could take ur team recommendations and build a second team

Cuz idk if is true but somebody told me I need two solid teams and my third I can use my strongest nikkes and will be ok

[tropic summit]

that depends on your opponents

you can afford building 3 good teams with what you've

it's the teams above

[autumn owl]

Ok by the way it's true on special arena I need different teams for both roll (atk and def) or can I use the same for both

[tropic summit]

yes the higher your rank the more likely you'll need to run actual proper counters to deal with enemy teams

understanding pvp is fundamental to retain high rank

[autumn owl]

If I invest on vesti which team can I use on her

[tropic summit]

no brainer teams will stop succeeding in general past dia1

[tropic summit]

ironically any, she fits a lot of archetypes

[autumn owl]

Ok

[tropic summit]

be it as main B3 or battery or just flex DPS offburst

[autumn owl]

Ok

[tropic summit]

she can be indommed or glass cannon or behind stall teams

[autumn owl]

My goal is reach top 10 but with the reshuffle will be kinda hard

[tropic summit]

i think top 10 is in your strike zone

you've good units

[autumn owl]

And of course one time I got a slot on top 10 , I want to keep it

[tropic summit]

you should push away top 7 actually

top 10 is exposed to dia 1 and dia 2

top 8 starts being safer

[autumn owl]

Ok I will try to improve nikkes u recommended me

[tropic summit]

ok, if you fight opponents you can ask for help in here

with your box you can most likely counter any of those as long as you're not gapped by CP difference

[autumn owl]

But my top 8-1 are around 40 lvl nikke over me

[autumn owl]

It's the first time someone help me the last time someone told me u are a veteran u shouldn't ask for help

[tropic summit]

one can be playing this game for years and never touching pvp

sounds pretty rude telling someone that

[autumn owl]

I know but since that time I never asked for help again

[tropic summit]

you don't have to worry about that

there's good ppl in this chat, if you don't get immediate reply just try again later

[autumn owl]

Ty so much dude

[gritty ridge]

Oopygoopy

[autumn owl]

Which other nikke could be a option for jackal ( I need invested in her but currently I have no resources enough, till I get her with a decent build I would like to know if I could use another nikke on scarlet team that u advice me

[tropic summit]

jackal is one of the most core pvp units in the game, you want to invest in her as soon as possible

you'll especially need her if you want to climb to top 10

[autumn owl]

I Know 😭 but since I spent on both new nikkes I became poor

Well I gonna use her in that way

And gonna try to improve her as soon as possible

[gaunt pulsar]

well there 5 more days of Solo raid, will get quite a few resources still

[tropic summit]

she only needs 4/4/4 4OL, SR5 tbh

although it would be ideal to be SR15

[autumn owl]

Oh ok

[autumn owl]

Like this

Only need ol

[tropic summit]

that's SR0, it would've been better if you went R15 into SR5

oh well

[autumn owl]

Ok I need toy lvl 15 I will try

[tropic summit]

no SR5 is enough

in fact leave it SR0

first of all see what the opponents look like above you, because if you're nowhere near close then it will be meaningless

[autumn owl]

What do u mean SR5?

[gaunt pulsar]

you get sr5 if you equip SR doll over lvl 15 R(blue) one

[timber depot]

Is it alright that Jackal is linking p2 and p4 here?

I forgot to double check since ik that jackal linking can depend on your investment

[autumn owl]

Oh ty so much

[gaunt pulsar]

yes, cindy will survive even if not linked most likely, but put rapi on p5

[timber depot]

Does Jackal link update? or just highest attack going in

[gaunt pulsar]

it's not dynamic

stays as at the start of the fight

[timber depot]

ty for the info, fyi Centi is low investment and Rapi is campaign so super invested, still ideal to swap their spots?

20k cp vs 58k

[gaunt pulsar]

yes, you get shot into p5, and if rapi is linked she gives more burst generation to your team due to jackal feed, also more chances that they all survive than uninvested centi, depends i guess sometimes on how hard you get hit, but if you gonna attack sg with that one it's better to have rapi there

[timber depot]

so because p5 gets shot more than p4 thats why thats ideal is what im getting

bc jackal feed*

[gaunt pulsar]

you want to have jackal units to be placed at p1 p2 (positions where you get shot by RL units, so 2 of your units get hit and give burst gen) and p5 gets shot by sg when you attack and by SR by default

p4 doesnt get shot unless you lose p5

[timber depot]

ok thats good to know thank you

so im guessing
smg / ar / mg p1
rl p1 p2
sr p5
sg p5 if you're attacking it, or just in general?

[tropic summit]

enemy SG shoot p5 when you attacking
your SR shoot p5 when you attacking

your SG shoot p1 when you attacking
your SG shoot p5 when you defending

as you can guess, SR shoot p1 when you defending

[haughty mortar]

How can I change T2 to replace RH?

[timber depot]

Good to know, so in defense SG shoots p5, in offense SG shoots p1
vice versa on SR

[tropic summit]

noah bis ein helmt rumani
becomes
noah bis ein helmt rh

[timber depot]

When RH bursts and has pierce, is she then hitting both p4 and p5 when im attacking?

or maybe she needs to be in p2 for that to happen

so many variations to think about, yall big brain

[tropic summit]

RH hits 1 target at a time, from p5 to p4 to p3 etc

unless taunted ofc

and that is assuming you're attacking

[timber depot]

btw on that team you gave me, my helm isnt max treasure, should I make RH burst before her

she'll be max treasure in 11~ days

[tropic summit]

both alice and RH B3 adheres to the same SR rules of targeting their default position unless taunted

[tropic summit]

you need helmT on s1 lvl 10 phase 2 to be fully usable

[timber depot]

ah yeah I figured their targetting stays the same, but though maybe you could line it up so they hit 2

[tropic summit]

you can't

[timber depot]

this is my Helm atm

[tropic summit]

ye it's phase 2, she's fine

get her to phase 3 to enable using her as a link killer

[timber depot]

so her burst in my team atm is just for the healing, but itll be better once shes phase 3

[tropic summit]

ye let someone else burst instead of her until she's phase 3

[timber depot]

ah ok got it, ill swap her and RH for now until i get phase 3

Ill do this for now

[tropic summit]

crown naga rh helmt pepper

p2 is exposed and she's without lifesteal

[timber depot]

so she'd die due to RL's?

[tropic summit]

ye you catching up

in current meta p3 is also unsafe, although only to vestiTU and emilia

[gritty ridge]

Rail if I put rh in place of noise would it do better?

Im in a hefty deficit

[timber depot]

What makes VestiTU target p3?

and i suppose emilia too, but I dont think ill ever run into her due to my bracket

[tropic summit]

her explosion radius

[gritty ridge]

Shes just gota a really big explosion

[timber depot]

oh ok I see, that makes sense lmao

[tropic summit]

yes RH would be an improvement, the trade off is extra dmg for giving away noise taunting, sustain and DR

keep in mind that noah is now siren weak

if it's an attack team you'll be fine

[gritty ridge]

Theres no siren on that team anyway

Its only for atk

[timber depot]

since this team has 2 taunters, is p1 p5 as good as itll get

[tropic summit]

ye that team does well at countering both SGs and siren, although it has poor threat as SBS takes time to land her kit

it would lose to most nuke based teams

[timber depot]

maybe when I get Drake treasure i can swap their spots

[tropic summit]

it's your throaway team so it's fine anyway

[timber depot]

ye its 135k cp now, people still need to have some investment to beat it if they want to cp deficit

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit this is the rough deficit of that team

[tropic summit]

at that deficit the only thing that can save you is vestiTU behind a noah bis team

even then i dunno if you kill them in time

[gritty ridge]

This exactly what I used lmao

Thats the deficit of the ss above

[timber depot]

I need Noah so bad 🙏

[tropic summit]

oh it's the one above

#pvp-arena message

[timber depot]

she will come home soon surely

[tropic summit]

damn she actually still can do it at 29% deficit

true damage is somethin else

[gritty ridge]

She can do it with no buff even

Granted, rh managed to burst and ate noise

Its gonna be rough beating that guy for the next 4 ish days

In 4 days I jump from 281 to 301 tho

[tropic summit]

he doesn't know who he's dealing with

[gritty ridge]

Adding liberalio is the first change hes made in like 4 months

[tropic summit]

it's probably someone who never had to bother with pvp because he'd slap some CP pad team and just sit on the throne

[gritty ridge]

He has literally never been 1st place lmao

I wish I could beat this guy, hes pissing me off in rookie

[tropic summit]

you can probably beat scarlet team with fodder team and vestiTU either T2 or T3

[gritty ridge]

Idk, thats like 40% deficit on t3

[tropic summit]

scarlet team you can be on 18% deficit with noah bis helmt rh laplaceT

needs quantum on 4 units iirc

[gritty ridge]

Rail i dont have t.lap

[tropic summit]

bricked

[gritty ridge]

Game just won't give me enough dupes

[tropic summit]

check CP

and post your box

[shell hazel]

I dunno I wasn't replying to your question lol 😄

[shell hazel]

just 💳 some more

[raven plover]

4 - 1 as well wtf

[tropic summit]

you only need 463k

[tropic summit]

i think you can easily get in 18-20% deficit

[gritty ridge]

Thats higher cp than my campaign team rn

[tropic summit]

28 deficit dafuq

[gritty ridge]

Once I jump to 301 I may be in range

[tropic summit]

who's your highest CP unit

[gritty ridge]

Noise

[gaunt pulsar]

do you have nayuta? you can just p5 her against sg, deficit or not they not gonna kill

[tropic summit]

see you at 301

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit

[gritty ridge]

She aint built yet

[haughty mortar]

She built like a tank!

[gaunt pulsar]

she wouldn't even need any invest there, just hopefully enough dmg from others at deficit to kill

[tropic summit]

siren or liter in there

[gritty ridge]

She has 1 ol and no doll atm, shed severely tank cp

[tropic summit]

@gritty ridge is blanc linked?

show meanwhile nayuta helmt anchor rh alice

[gaunt pulsar]

[gritty ridge]

Blanc isnt linked

[tropic summit]

great you can use siren even

[tropic summit]

@gritty ridge show le CP with this

(you're on left)

the above is likely the highest you can push your CP

[haughty mortar]

This good right?

[tropic summit]

move scarlet against enemy SBS blanc team

rest can stay

[tropic summit]

23% deficit kinda still sucks, but it's probably your best shot if you got attempts to throw

for the SG team assemble w/e with vesti and biscuit locked

record it if you attempt it, let's see how far you can push it

also move siren in p1 and helmt in p2

don't want cindy to hit ele weak on helm

[haughty mortar]

[tropic summit]

can you show me Ash's teams

just want to see how far behind you are compared to his progress

and if he's been whaling

[haughty mortar]

Sorry ran outta attempts. Sponsor me gems? XDDD

[tropic summit]

370 could be in your strike zone

seems like a dolphin

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit position dont matter

[haughty mortar]

I do have 12 levels on the docet

[tropic summit]

thanks for sharing

[haughty mortar]

Any time brother!

[tropic summit]

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[haughty mortar]

Time to get that gigabit interwebs!

[tropic summit]

haha that's insane

yeah 301 it is

it is around 56% stat debuff afterall

[gritty ridge]

Yeah is crazy

[crystal flicker]

Thanks!

[burnt kite]

What are the 3 best pvp teams??

[haughty mortar]

You me and yo mama

I ain't wrong fam

[tropic summit]

any of these, prefer 2RL

#pvp-arena message

[keen vapor]

I wish me

[crystal flicker]

The current finalist for CA came from Emi-less bracket, we're beating Emi's ass

[tropic summit]

emi was good when we didn't have helmt and trina

now you can do sort of without

[haughty mortar]

🫂

[haughty mortar]

We gotta! Until SU fkn reruns ALL collabs!

[crystal flicker]

New player can't do pre-burst wipe comp

[oak hatch]

How do they change brackets? Are there ca reshuffles as well?

[crystal flicker]

We don't know, one day they just decide to throw new player to old CA bracket lol

And throw the rest to newer bracket

[haughty mortar]

I think only Rookie gets shuffled

[oak hatch]

Hope I get put in a newer bracket one day, don’t wanna go against older players

[umbral belfry]

everything gets shuffled

[placid bloom]

when SPA groups merge or shuffle, you can move up or down CA bracket because the prev one might be too full/empty

[umbral belfry]

rookie, sp, and ca. but ca shuffle are a bit weirder.

[placid bloom]

they fill up the prev one now I think so there's no bots

instead of doing account creation date cutoff

well there probably is still cutoff for priority but I think they will isekai people if they need to fill spot

[leaden canyon]

This is safe from siren stun right?

Because moran will taunt it

[spare nimbus]

Unless they put siren p3

Actually i think the team should be fine if it is 11% overall or more

[leaden canyon]

it is

[spare nimbus]

Although idk how it would be with vesti

[tropic summit]

since attract taunt type has been fixed, yes that makes you siren invulnerable, moran will taunt at 2RL B1

[leaden canyon]

ok cool

Lets see them break this in rookie

Not doing the siren version yet because I kinda dont want quantum on my vesti in sp arena

I kinda wish rookie and SP arena had a separate cube usage

[umbral crown]

but did you

[umbral belfry]

well i did last ca

[midnight marsh]

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-frieren-no-not-nope-gif-5781751025776721420

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

you dist something but next is CA shuffle

[umbral belfry]

yeah but i don't think i'll be moving again after just being moved

[umbral crown]

movin is part of the fun

[leaden canyon]

I dont think my CA can get worse than what it is, I have weeptrap in my bracket lol

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-donkey-aint-no-stoppin-us-now-wooh-were-on-the-move-gif-24793845

[umbral belfry]

[umbral crown]

SU: just watch me

[leaden canyon]

yeah just trade weeptrap for keripo

[umbral crown]

dair gonna test keripo teams first hand

[tropic summit]

finally we can bully keripo indirectly?

what synchro is he now, 1k?

[leaden canyon]

I think its actually insane I have not won a CA yet

I have got to top 2 before

Weeptrap denied me once and then the other was one of my rivals in SP arena

I just get bad team placement luck

Oh btw rail I won round 3 and 5

so it was still a bit better than your prediction but you were right that I was going to lose

[tropic summit]

oof

well the matchup was plain evil anyway

[leaden canyon]

yep

If my sg team was against anything but the biscuit team I would have won

also my slow cindy team lost every fight

[tropic summit]

a classic

[leaden canyon]

Slow cindy p1 is not the play

Need to place that team some where else

[vapid lake]

I think put cindy p5 better

[tropic summit]

i got slow cindy diffed this CA

but then again sg team into biscuit locked didn't help either

[leaden canyon]

My slow cindy legit either lost to mihara getting all her stacks taunted by noise and noah or running into vesti 2RL teams that nuked it

[tropic summit]

might need to run a buffed vesti next CA

[leaden canyon]

The new copy pasta teams were interesting

My helm stall actually won every time

same with vesti team

I think I put scar p4 and sg team p1

I need the sg team to avoid biscuit teams and I swear nobody put a biscuit team p2

Nayuta sg is actually strong

[vapid lake]

I thought about doing that, but then if i put nayuta in sg team, i have to blanc on cindy team, and that won't let me do blanc vesti

[leaden canyon]

I did noah vesti emilia lap noise and it won every fight

even beat out sg teams

I put it p5

[umbral crown]

keripo should be like 981 or so

[tropic summit]

when he reaches 1000 we finally EoS?

[umbral crown]

in global we have Nish carrying the highest level

[tropic summit]

wut level

[umbral crown]

last i check he was 1006

[tropic summit]

jesus le christ

[umbral crown]

midnight friendo

he is maybe higher if he got chime dupes

[wild drum]

Which team is stronger

[tropic summit]

for rookie arena you mean?

[wild drum]

Nah rookie idrc i put campaign cuz its yeah i want strongest one to go against ze stronger one yk

Cuz mlre chances or winning ig

[tropic summit]

if you mean for attacking, you need to make teams adhoc for what you facing

those are general purpose defense teams

you can use them for attack too, but if you put them against their own counters they'll lose

[wild drum]

😵‍💫

[peak halo]

need some help building a defense team

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• jackal siren scarlet trina lib
• nayuta helmt rh centi drakeT
• noise noah cindy biscuit rumani

Notes

• improve vestiTU
• build doll on biscuit, rumani, centi, jackal
• consider treasuring laplaceT

[clever kindle]

Thanks. So, they're pretty evenly matched. I think I'll have to choose the one on the left and pray. T . T

[flat fern]

I'll choose right 🗿

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit

I have something to show you

[quick lake]

That’s nice

[gritty ridge]

Shes my first 12/12

[vagrant nexus]

What’s a solid rookie arena team?

[keen vapor]

Noah is my only 12/12

[keen vapor]

One of the pinned ones with your highest combat power

[gritty ridge]

Wtf is 12/12 noah

[wooden orbit]

If any of you know this guy, tell him to take the L and hit someone lower. This guy spends at least 400 gems on arena chips just to ego me.

[keen vapor]

Is not optimized, don't get your hopes high 3 ele

[gritty ridge]

Ohh, I meant shes my first 12/12 full ideal lines

I have a few 12 line units

[vapid lake]

Make him spend 4000 gems

[wooden orbit]

He does it on a daily, by now I think he's probably spent near 2k

[keen vapor]

You do?

[proud bobcat]

Hey guys can someone help me make arena teams? Tia!

[keen vapor]

@violet spoke learn from him

He keeps on the fight

[gritty ridge]

Yeah

Helm is one of em is think

[swift mango]

maybe you are easier to hit than C3.

[wooden orbit]

Definitely not lol, he just want to ego me for C2

[swift mango]

Easier to hit here also mean, online less and doesn't spend gem.
Hitting a lazy C2 to get to C3-4 at the end of a season is a viable strategy,

[wooden orbit]

I'm check pretty frequent. I hold C2 about 18/24 hrs/day. He is far out of top 3 contending for the end of the season by now.

[covert lintel]

He's learning

[wooden orbit]

If he hits C3, he may at least be able to contend, but he chose to spend gems and hit me instead.

[azure star]

Clearly you done something to this guy previously, maybe bullied him in rookie

[eternal finch]

Anyrecs vs these teams plz?

[wooden orbit]

I just got put into this bracket from the recent shuffle, never even seen this guy or hit him before lol

[covert lintel]

Does spending attempt on a rookie counted as bullying?

[azure star]

I kept all my annoyances from the reshuffle and more got added

I mean if you do a daily smackdown on the one person

[swift mango]

if he hit C3 he may not be able to hold for 6+ hours like he hitting you.
And he would need to hold for 9+ hours to get equal benefit.
He might not make C3 but more chance for c4. He could make C3 if C3 getting hit by C4 and c6 for example.

[onyx scaffold]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1302588263659212901/1438745788833337404/Nikke.Exe_2025.11.14_-_11.19.33.03.mp4?ex=6917ffee&is=6916ae6e&hm=962e8e3dee43653d309bb9b57723b3528918667a8d7bccde811badb4b799cf9b&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1315285264947613726/1438535670284029982/Nikke.Exe_2025.11.13_-_21.20.04.01.mp4?ex=69173c3e&is=6915eabe&hm=8184b15f8018859e3170f5bf5a9bbb4c3b251fe3c7bcf3f35b1d9abc46a564dd&

[covert lintel]

Like this?
Nah, i just let them be even if they can breach my def in the future

[azure star]

I was chilling in challenger 4 this season, got jump scared from 6th so took first

[wooden orbit]

Idk if you're just trying to rage bait me, but trust me he's not even close even based on your continuous edit math.

[swift mango]

He is exactly c4 right here.

He did it.

[wooden orbit]

Why fight so hard just for a lower tier season reward when you're refilling on a daily?

[swift mango]

CA

[onyx scaffold]

some people don't claim red chip to get rank updated

[covert lintel]

Maybe he's trying to make an ultimate team for attacking

[wooden orbit]

It just doesn't make sense, if he wants to get in CA then he needs to solidify his position getting C3 or C4 instead then wasting all his gems lol

[swift mango]

I'm attacking C1 to test team everyday. He must think I'm suck to lose so much despite winning CA 3 times and he couldn't even pass league..

[swift mango]

Who know. Either he wanted to test his team or not online enough to hold c3 hot spot. But her made it c4 and possibly c3 if lucky.

[covert lintel]

You make me remember my previous c1
I wonder which bracket he's in?
Does he meet another whale?
I'm really curious

[onyx scaffold]

maybe he misclicked

[potent island]

Last one for the frame. Any ideas/input on who’s taking the win?

[gritty ridge]

Mcfly

It comes down to t1

[primal escarp]

Hey could i have help putting together 3 PVP squads for the SP Arena?

[marble saddle]

@gritty ridge is this bad for Testi?

since i didnt get charge speed

[gritty ridge]

Lmao why you call her that

[marble saddle]

TU vesti too long

Testi better

[gritty ridge]

But thats a good piece, you can fix others

[marble saddle]

fix? bro thats my 2nd OL gear on her

im no where near fixing anything. i just wanted to get 3 lines

[gritty ridge]

This is 12/12 vesti

[gritty ridge]

You got atk+ele, youre good to go to next

[marble saddle]

doesnt she need charge speed as well?

last i heard RL need like 11% CS min?

[gritty ridge]

No

Nobody needs cs

Vesti has 2 breakpoints

5% and 18%

5% is 2 rockets hit pre b1 18% is 3 rockets hit pre b1

[marble saddle]

so just get 5% and move on?

[primal escarp]

I can provide screenshots, i just didnt want to spam the chat if there wasnt anyone available rn

[gritty ridge]

Yeap

[gritty ridge]

I would help but its quite late for me so I cant think properly

[primal escarp]

Fair. Ill try to ask earlier tomorrow night

[marble saddle]

@gritty ridge well looks like im finally able to make some atk teams myself without bothering the vets here too much

Holy Crap i almost blew the pooch on team 2

[swift mango]

It's better than 11.81% hit rate in all shape or form.

[marble saddle]

honestly i thought noah would be able to burst before scarlet. guess i shouldve gone for 2.5 RL