pvp-arena

[gritty ridge]

4rl slow cindy has a very high winrate against noise noah vesti

But it loses to scar

[slate falcon]

I was a victim to that today

[gritty ridge]

4rl slow cindy? Thats a fairly new cook

[slate falcon]

Yeah, I thought I could kill her before she burst, but she would just not die

[quartz rover]

You'd never guess but I'm in NA

[gritty ridge]

So when are you gonna let me in

[quartz rover]

Restraining order

[gritty ridge]

Nuh uh

I just wanna say hi

[silk iris]

need help with this

[slate falcon]

That looks like a cp gap imo

[ivory violet]

Does your t1 win? on your 3rd team I'd just replace rrh with siren and you should be able to beat team 2 or team 3

[silk iris]

i think i can do it but just need right team, theyre all cp gap for me

[glacial hatch]

Okay, will do when i can

[silk iris]

hmm im not sure i can try it

[ivory violet]

wait it might not

[silk iris]

i beat him using this before but he swapped the positions and some nikke

[ivory violet]

If your rumani is OL'd this should work

[tropic summit]

do you've nayuta? if your link is dying you can use that to deny SGs

[silk iris]

yeah i got nayuta

heres my box again #pvp-arena message

[tropic summit]

alright this should do then

you're on the left

[silk iris]

ok bet hb the cubes?

[tropic summit]

do me a favour and run this team in union range, tell me if you get scarlet with jumping jackal (enter, pause, click on her, check buff)

scarlet trina rh laplaceT jackal

[tropic summit]

doesn't matter in this case, keep as is

[glacial hatch]

Will let you know

[slate falcon]

Guys could this team work?

[tropic summit]

if you confirm scarlet is linked with that team, you can run these (you're on the left)

Cubes

scarlet temperance
trina temperance
rh any
laplaceT quantum
jackal quantum

noah temperance
biscuit vigor
cindy any
helmt any
rumani any

before running ensure you're not on deficit

(multiply enemy team CP for 0.846, the number you get needs to be lower than your current team CP)

[tropic summit]

too slow, can be stunned

[slate falcon]

Thought so

[tropic summit]

ye looks good, run it

[slate falcon]

Pls record for inspiration

[glacial hatch]

Jumping jackal flash, she gets that.

[tropic summit]

awesome, then lastly check CP and you're good to go, else you can post the matchups here before running and i can check myself

[silk iris]

nice we won LETS GOO

[glacial hatch]

Sorry, i'm not entirely up to speed on pvp stuff, what do you mean i'm on the left?

[tropic summit]

your teams are on the left of that screenshot

[glacial hatch]

Okay will do

[tropic summit]

Cubes

scarlet temperance
trina temperance
rh any
laplaceT quantum
jackal quantum

noah temperance
biscuit vigor
cindy any
helmt any
rumani any

[silk iris]

yeye

[glacial hatch]

Oh, i just realized there was screenshots, thank you

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit do you wanna see my sg mirror match?

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-okay-then-meh-unamused-nom-gif-18015248

[gritty ridge]

Rail idk what that means

[tropic summit]

go on

@gritty ridge food getting cold already

[tropic summit]

oh right i remember it was the doro cope

[gritty ridge]

Oh wow, my rosa didnt oneshot theirs cuz of the dispell

[tropic summit]

cuz your rosanna doesn't have 4 black OLs

you clearly slackin'

[gritty ridge]

They still get dispelled brother

[tropic summit]

but 4 black atk% OL would've done it

[gritty ridge]

Overloads are considered buffs aren't they?

[tropic summit]

are they?

don't think those can get dispelled

[gritty ridge]

I actually dont know

[tropic summit]

let's ask the fake pve main

@swift mango can atk% OLs be dispelled

[thin geyser]

Hello, I just got liberalio. Shall I put her to my arena team?

[tropic summit]

yes change your rookie to

noah biscuit lib sbs rh

[thin geyser]

Okay~ how about the SP Arena?

[tropic summit]

• noah biscuit lib liter sbs
• nayuta scarlet rh anis drake (anis quantum lvl 1 cube)
• auto

[slate falcon]

Could this bad boy work?

[tropic summit]

why is nayuta in p4?

[slate falcon]

For Vesti/Stun was my thought

[tropic summit]

either way too slow, helmT in a 3RL team is kinda wasted

[lunar pawn]

is xanne still meta for CA?

[gritty ridge]

No

[tropic summit]

Yes, situationally

[slate falcon]

Im still having a difficult time learning PvP

[thin geyser]

Okies, thank you~

[gritty ridge]

Meta sg rn is poli or nayuta

[tropic summit]

1. speed
2. threat

these should be your main priorities

[lunar pawn]

wondering if I should work on xanne + soda for CA

[tropic summit]

who told you that?

those are situational

[slate falcon]

I have treats but not enough speed

[lunar pawn]

how much time is there to set up CA teams once it begins?

[tropic summit]

more than 24hrs iirc

[lunar pawn]

cool

[gritty ridge]

I told me that, cuz they win mirror against the other variants

[tropic summit]

ye situational

i wouldn't go call them meta just because they can out trade a mirror

[slate falcon]

Could this idom SbS work?

[gritty ridge]

Wow, indom centi

[tropic summit]

or indom noise even

[slate falcon]

🫠🫠🫠

[tropic summit]

let's assume you linked with noise though, she should've higher hp than SBS, at that point you do indom SBS at least

at that point positioning should get fixed to

noise sbs blanc centi jackal

[slate falcon]

Noise has more hp

[tropic summit]

speed is still kinda bad... 80% to 2RL needs a lot of feed

[gritty ridge]

Id run rh over noise atp

[tropic summit]

that'd be even worse

[gritty ridge]

Same speed

More dmg

[tropic summit]

and what would the positioning be like?

[gritty ridge]

Rh rh rh rh sbs

Its a little less feed from rl, but same feed from sg/non rl

[slate falcon]

Like this?

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/sword-art-online-unamused-anime-ona2000-tea-gif-13266445

[gritty ridge]

Is that hachiman

Or kirito

[tropic summit]

the latter

hachiman is leagues above kirito

[onyx scaffold]

Yeah this order avoids centi from being hit => low hp => taking Blanc buff

[gritty ridge]

I enjoyed sao despite what everyone else said

[tropic summit]

time to block bigboi it seems

[gritty ridge]

Yes kirito is a Mary Sue unlike any other but sometimes thats what you wanna sit down and watch

[onyx scaffold]

Ppl enjoyed Solo Leveling. I see nothing wrong for enjoying SAO

[slate falcon]

I need be in the PvP chat a little more to understand these stuffs, I tried read the pin guide, but im too smooth brain to understand what was said

[gritty ridge]

I do think the r🦍quota of 1 scene per season was a bit much tho

[tropic summit]

SAO lost it all the moment it embraced generic fake harem and boring fantasy

tried to steer it right with season 3, ultimately failed again

[gritty ridge]

Thats why alicization is the best season

The ggo season i didnt like

It was legitimately dumb

[onyx scaffold]

I skipped the Alice season. Unwatchable

[tropic summit]

GGO you need to detach your brain to enjoy it

[onyx scaffold]

Sinon my beloved

[tropic summit]

they did her dirty, became just another harem partecipant

[gritty ridge]

"I can deflect bullet with my sword cuz im super cool and awesome"

[slate falcon]

Im assuming if I get Atk by a Vesti she would destroy this team without even needing to burst?

[gritty ridge]

[tropic summit]

too slow, your vesti can be stunned

[onyx scaffold]

Ngl i watch a lot anime just for waifu

[gritty ridge]

Hes taunting to p4, hes got other issues

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/culture-man-of-culture-cultured-gif-10903367

[glacial hatch]

Omg you did it, thanks for the help!

[tropic summit]

oh ye that definitely does not help either

[slate falcon]

You like me Frl

[gritty ridge]

But yeah season 1 of sao and alicization were the best of it imo

[tropic summit]

SAO owes it all to season 1 to be fair

[gritty ridge]

I will admit tho, the elf guild leader was hot af

[tropic summit]

then they decided to milk the cow and only threw it all away

[onyx scaffold]

Same reason why I watch Date a Live

The recent plot is kinda childish to me.
I enjoy the plot when I was a teenager. Now I just watch for waifu

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

god bless kurumi

[gritty ridge]

I havent watched date alive since he went to space, is there more?

[onyx scaffold]

The author keeps rewrite the first part again and again lol

[onyx scaffold]

Season 4 already ended

[tropic summit]

it ended somewat ok

go watch it if you didn't

[gritty ridge]

Is season 4 the one he meets space girl?

[tropic summit]

at least they wrapped all the points up

[slate falcon]

Still too slow?

[gritty ridge]

Please put noah in p1 or p5 sir

[tropic summit]

fix positioning bro, noah taunting in p2, why is vesti even in p1 for... also you're still anyway siren weak

[onyx scaffold]

Use the https://nikke-deck.web.app
You wang 2RL or 2.5RL

[tropic summit]

speed is finally OK as you're 2RL

[slate falcon]

Im think to swap biscuit with Rumani

[gritty ridge]

[slate falcon]

Im using it rn

I’ve been in the kitchen for 1hr and 1/2 rn currently

[glacial hatch]

Just so that I know, i don't have anything good enough to slot in for team 1?

[gritty ridge]

Just run noise noah brother

[tropic summit]

pvp is all about getting 2 wins out of 3, by making sure those 2 teams commit to victory
you can afford having 3 winning teams only when:

• opponent has really bad teams
• you gapping them
• you happen to have a very large pool of invested pvp core units

[onyx scaffold]

Simply go to champion arena and copy teams lol @slate falcon

[gritty ridge]

If hes in NA he can copy my teams directly

[tropic summit]

who wants to copy your teams

[onyx scaffold]

Me

[gritty ridge]

They work rail

[tropic summit]

you are not THAT desperate are you

[onyx scaffold]

-# I am paid to comment this

[bold trout]

Any replacement for trina in pvp

[tropic summit]

go get champ first

[gritty ridge]

Im working on it

[slate falcon]

That not really a very effective way of doing it though, I wanna make mistakes and learn what does what so I can stop annoying @tropic summit

[tropic summit]

yes, but it depends what purpose is that team serving

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/hell-emiya-thats-hell-youre-walking-into-gif-27052445

[bold trout]

Not sure myself, my friend recommended me the team for pvp

Scarlet, Centi, Helm, Rosanna

[onyx scaffold]

Trina job is to buff scarlet but providing high burst gen.
U can use centi for burst gen but no dmg.
Honestly, I suggest to use different gimmick, like Blanc

[gritty ridge]

4 of the top 8 are in the same union group

[tropic summit]

that's a good mindset

[tropic summit]

you vs everyone, go make me proud

[onyx scaffold]

Go to champion arena
Watch gameplay
Learn from those

[gritty ridge]

Even when he learns how to make teams he should still bug rail

[bold trout]

Blanc’s already in another team sadly

[gritty ridge]

I still bug rail on the daily

[tropic summit]

Prove to me that you're not just a lewd trainer who touches ladies inappropriately.

win le CA and become the best pokemon trainer

[gritty ridge]

[onyx scaffold]

Maybe dont use Scarlet tbh.
I suggest making a Nayuta nuke team

[gritty ridge]

I dont appreciate the slander sir

[bold trout]

Whats the team for that

[slate falcon]

[tropic summit]

what slander it's the truth

[gritty ridge]

The ladies touch me inappropriatly get it right

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/mind-blow-galaxy-explode-boom-fireworks-gif-5139389

[gritty ridge]

They dont leave my ass alone

[glacial hatch]

Thanks for the pointers, thank you!

[tropic summit]

you welcome

[ionic rose]

Gotta Have That Big Ass Energy

[onyx scaffold]

I meant to say Liberalio nuke

[gritty ridge]

Bro they harass me constantly

[bold trout]

Whats the team for dat

[onyx scaffold]

Noise Noah Liber Helm centi
Whatever team that u can burst

[tropic summit]

@gritty ridge dad bod is makin' every girl weak in their knees

[gritty ridge]

[tropic summit]

[onyx scaffold]

My hometown

[tropic summit]

i'd visit too

[slate falcon]

I’d visit as well

[gritty ridge]

Ive gotta build this

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/haikyu-tsukishima-kei-anime-ignore-gif-21453340

[gritty ridge]

Im really not looking forward to it

[ionic rose]

Lib is a delayed nuke, she does big damage but honestly whatever scarlet cannot nuke is either an indom team or a noah team so I dont think Lib team's any different from a scarlet team. i.e. Just wait for Levi

[gritty ridge]

Lib does better than scar against slow cindy

[quick lake]

Levi?

[raven plover]

@covert lintel ok unc you better win this

[tropic summit]

he knows something we don't

[oak hatch]

Should I swap Noah here to p1 as well

[quick lake]

I still think Libby is better than Cindy

[tropic summit]

don't copy those teams they're bad examples

[gritty ridge]

Better nuke, better gen, but isnt defender

[ionic rose]

so a buffed scarlet can nuke cindy but gets bled out by mihara damage, how does lib not bleed out?

[oak hatch]

Copy which team

[gritty ridge]

Lib clears p3-5 instantly without proccing bisc. There's no time for mihara to whip her

Also you dont need buffs for lib to wipe so you can keep her with sustain

[oak hatch]

I made that team cuz I thought it’s pretty fast and I don’t have much supports to use

[onyx scaffold]

just use both

[quick lake]

Check pins for teams, but generally we burst with Trina, and dont put Noah with Scar

[gritty ridge]

I will be

In 65 years when nero and moran are built

[tropic summit]

why stop at 1 nuker, use them all

[gritty ridge]

Can't burst

[tropic summit]

oh wait it misses B2 we're ruined

let's go

[gritty ridge]

[untold tapir]

Are my PVP teams trash or no based on my Nikkes?

Viper/Trina/Cindy/Noir/Liter
SBS/DrakeT/Blanc/Siren/Jackal
Centi/Biscuit/HelmT/BSoda/RH

[tropic summit]

even rounds up nicely to 100%

[tropic summit]

who made these?

[untold tapir]

Took advice from here before

[gritty ridge]

Please dont say I made them

[tropic summit]

they're fairly balanced

[gritty ridge]

It doesnt look like my cooking but I never know

[tropic summit]

but feels like bad CP distribution

[quick lake]

[untold tapir]

So how should I rebalance it?

I also recently pulled Noah and know she is a good unit but unsure how should shake up or change teams accordingly for her comp.

[tropic summit]

so a few pointers to correct asap:

• noah is out of synchro, fix yesterday
• jackal, biscuit, trina, rumani are all low CP, invest asap

once these units are ready, you can drastically improve ur teams

[quick lake]

sync 300 is still early

[quick lake]

Name and shame

[tropic summit]

yeah makes sense, sadly my advise wasn't taken though

why do i even bother adding notes

[cedar jackal]

I need three teams to try and beat this person

wait how do i find my bla link i set it up

[untold tapir]

How do I know they are well (or enough) invested?

[gritty ridge]

You never gave me notes

[tropic summit]

do you even need those anymore, you've rumani SR15 already

[gritty ridge]

Yes ofc i have rumani sr15

Nah I only have 1 Sr doll and its smg

Im debating between nayuta and nero

[tropic summit]

is your helm treasure phase 2 with s1 lvl 10?

[cedar jackal]

yes

[quick lake]

No worries to invest in pvp so early imo. Just R0, 4/4/4 4OL is enough

[tropic summit]

can you show your box? first 4 lines is enough

[cedar jackal]

how do i get my bla link i used it before

[quick lake]

Lemme do this

[tropic summit]

just screenshot first 4 lines

[oak hatch]

How are these two teams?

[tropic summit]

T2 is vulnerable, T3 is okish

[untold tapir]

thx man

[cedar jackal]

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/home?uid=MjkwODAtMjY4NjU0NDcxNDQyMzE3MTY4OQ%3D%3D&openid=MjkwODAtMjY4NjU0NDcxNDQyMzE3MTY4OQ%3D%3D

[oak hatch]

Any changes you would suggest for t2?

[quick lake]

Noah Biscuit Cindy Thelm Rumani
Jackal Trina VestiTU Blanc Drake
Auto

Sync Noah. Generally 4OL 4/4/4 all basic pvp units. Good to start investing into Liberalio too

[untold tapir]

thx

[oak hatch]

Is this better?

Kinda slow now tho

[thin geyser]

how do you calculate this become 80% to 2RL?
Sorry newbie question >.<

[quick lake]

The calculator adds on the individual burst gen

Can go to Nikke-Deck in pins for team building

[tropic summit]

assemble these teams, you're on the left

paste screenshot before running so i can doublecheck CP

[tropic summit]

https://nikke-deck.web.app/

[thin geyser]

ahh icic

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit I found a pic of us pookie bear

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/gushing-over-magical-girls-maho-shoujo-magical-girl-surprised-disturbed-gif-13120696653143240502

[gritty ridge]

Its me and you pookie

[tropic summit]

that's you on the left and one of your female customers on the right

[gritty ridge]

Yeah

This is the one Korean comic ive read where the women arent the curviest things known to man

[tropic summit]

[cedar jackal]

might be cooked for me

[tropic summit]

ok CP on T1 gonna need some fixing

[cedar jackal]

💀

[tropic summit]

fortunately for you that opponent is very slow we can pad it out

[cedar jackal]

its just ny biscuit and rumani holding me back in that team

[tropic summit]

bench rumani and throw a cindy in there

[cedar jackal]

ill raise them

[tropic summit]

noah biscuit lib helmt cindy

post screenshot again with this change

[cedar jackal]

now biscuit </3

[tropic summit]

ok now we need a flex B1

[cedar jackal]

siren? LMAO

[tropic summit]

the cloest candidate is rouge

[tropic summit]

she feeds

[cedar jackal]

is this real

it feels fake

[tropic summit]

wait what did you do with positioning

[quick lake]

Rumani

[cedar jackal]

oh ill fix it

[tropic summit]

change into

lib helmt noah rouge cindy

we can sacc lib for all it matters

give noah a blue doll and temperance

then run it

[cedar jackal]

bestie thinks i have cubes </3

[tropic summit]

jesus christ le 🧱

[cedar jackal]

we won

[tropic summit]

platinum...

good job tho

[cedar jackal]

[cedar jackal]

thankies i clicked go

[tropic summit]

that was the most important part, you done it well

[cedar jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/rigby-cat-rigby-the-cat-tongue-silly-gif-12392253191548833774

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-girl-cat-girl-dance-cute-gif-15479260878905651984

[cedar jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-mew-pokemon-funny-hilarious-gif-15197015

[cedar jackal]

800 gems is 800 gems

[tropic summit]

yep, keep climbin whenever you manage to

[cedar jackal]

if I never quit the game i would be number 1 in my server still

the person who was my competitor in my server is #1 they were always 2 but they never quit and i did

[tropic summit]

[cedar jackal]

anyway ur goated thanks for the help ill continue to raise my biscuit rumani and trina

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/do-your-best-anime-gif-25753335

[keen vapor]

@tropic summit help

[tropic summit]

hello i'm help

[keen vapor]

My defense worked against XP with Bay

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-blush-girl-gif-19592464

[cedar jackal]

kaedeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[tropic summit]

it's echo training arc

or is this comeback arc

@umbral belfry echo is doing a comeback

[cedar jackal]

crown or mihara pleaseeeeeeeeee

[tropic summit]

belorta

[gritty ridge]

Rail what if I told you I took a 2 week break at the start of my account

[cedar jackal]

sigh this is core 7 doro at least

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-anime-girl-anime-girl-confused-confused-anime-girl-confused-gif-11043332226267312554

[gritty ridge]

Am I bricked

[tropic summit]

she's pretty, i like her two big wings

[cedar jackal]

sadly i dont have sdoro

[tropic summit]

[keen vapor]

Doing comeback right when I get job now I can slack

[gritty ridge]

Hi pookie 2

[umbral crown]

294 with doro gacha

[tropic summit]

permanently bricked, gotta reroll, throw away everything and start from zero, aim for bready as first SSR

[gritty ridge]

[tropic summit]

ECHO HAS REAL LIFE?!

[umbral crown]

Hola

[gritty ridge]

Pull bready from a pool shes not even in

[cedar jackal]

I QUIT THE GAME TWICE LEAVE ME ALONE

[keen vapor]

Took me time

[tropic summit]

Everything is possible

[cedar jackal]

im not quitting again

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/theres-always-room-for-family-family-first-family-is-important-theres-always-time-for-family-household-gif-16055741

[tropic summit]

what's next, you gonna go and tell me you got a girlfriend and have kids?!

[gritty ridge]

😘 😘 😘

[cedar jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/txt-txt-yeonjun-yeonjun-yeonjun-sad-txt-yeonjun-sad-gif-11403560539866514539

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/family-toretto-dominic-gif-23895685

[keen vapor]

No you go too fast

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

...you got a boyfriend?

[umbral crown]

[gritty ridge]

Yeah he does

[keen vapor]

I said fast, not wrong idea

[gritty ridge]

I have a pvp chat harem

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-anime-girl-running-anime-running-running-love-live-gif-22710773

[gritty ridge]

Echo is my pookie #4

[umbral crown]

Echo does not know sumire heanna

[tropic summit]

the harem assumes those actually have interest in you

[gritty ridge]

They dont have a choice

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/heanna-sumire-sumire-heanna-love-live-sumire-love-live-heanna-gif-23968242

[tropic summit]

[umbral crown]

Galaxy

[gritty ridge]

Im working on making retro pookie #5

[tropic summit]

@fathom rock run

don't turn back

[gritty ridge]

I like watching him walk anyway

[gritty ridge]

Its like watching Jane doe walk

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/jane-zzz-jane-doe-zenless-zone-zero-zenless-gif-1797217056031474440

[gritty ridge]

That rat almost made me play a genshin

[tropic summit]

wat.

[gritty ridge]

What is there to be confused abt

[tropic summit]

all genshin was good for was making good corn

[gritty ridge]

Genshin makes hot rats

[tropic summit]

once they f*ked up the plot in version 2.0 with Raiden i lost all hope

[rigid inlet]

Hi! I got some teams here, I want to know which the best options for defense for SP arena:

First:

Noah - Biscuit - Annie Summer - Noise - Rapunzel

Blanc - RH - Scarlet B. - Emilia - Helm

Scarlet - Noir - Viper - OG Rosana - Jackal

Second:

Tia - Rapunzel - Privaty - Naga - Privaty Maid

Noise - Biscuit - Cinderella - Annis Summer - Jackal

RH - Killer Wife - Scarlet - Alice - Helm

Third:

Alice - Crown - Scarlet B. - Mermaid - Annis Summer

Scarlet - Noah - Jackal - RH - Helm

Rapunzel - Naga - Cinderella - Drake - RH Rapi

[tropic summit]

first: bad
second: worse
third: bad

i highly suggest you consider the following when making teams:

• aim for minimun 3RL
• aim for teams that have a protected p1 (biscuit, jackal, moran, nayuta etc)
• aim for teams that have good threat (instant nuke or stall or stuns or sustain)

refer to this tool to make it easy for you to figure out speed:
https://nikke-deck.web.app/

main batteries:

lastly, a fast team is meaningless if your CP is low, so keep that in mind when making teams

you can refer to these for decent teams templates:
#pvp-arena message

[rigid inlet]

Thanks for this!

[tropic summit]

no worries, once you've tried again do share them again to get more feedback

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit old friend we meat again, to be honest i kinda missed it

[tropic summit]

@swift mango this MF started later than us and he's already 542, tell him somethin'

[gritty ridge]

Hi mica

[fathom rock]

🐋 🐳

[hollow lagoon]

well there she goes

@fathom rock pat my head i did good with my fat whale fingers

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/eromanga-sensei-close-door-anime-gif-16699670

[keen vapor]

Higher level than me

[fathom rock]

Well i can jump to 501 should I

[hollow lagoon]

@fathom rock i did 1 dmg on the slipper with my 1 ele ein, then i swapped to destruction cube and it folded lel

[tropic summit]

you can probably clear behe

[hollow lagoon]

501 behe clear is eazy game, even i cleared it 501

[gritty ridge]

Hi pookie #5

[wise horizon]

I’m sure it’s good to go but want to make sure

[tropic summit]

wanna throw a noah to be safe you don't get link nuked by xmaiden hitting ele weak?

[fathom rock]

[tropic summit]

@wise horizon

scar trina rh centi jackal is fine
other team i'd change into

noise rumani helmt laplaceT noah

[gritty ridge]

Shhh pookie, dont be like that

[hollow lagoon]

man

[fathom rock]

Who said I'm pookie

[hollow lagoon]

i just wonder, like tf we supposed to do when we hit like MC on like,,, idk tetra tower?

[gritty ridge]

Youre pookie 100%

[tropic summit]

he's drunk or took the wrong mushroom or both

[gritty ridge]

Kill it

[fathom rock]

I'll just use ignore

[gritty ridge]

Dont ignore me pookie

[tropic summit]

imagine getting blocked by retro

[gritty ridge]

I would cry

[hollow lagoon]

tbf tetra is full of snipers

[gritty ridge]

Yeah you have your options

[hollow lagoon]

elyson??? maiden or helmt for slipper?

[gritty ridge]

Eunwha

[hollow lagoon]

oh

oooooooHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

totally forgot

[north brook]

Same thing ppl needed to do on elysion tower before rapi, helmt, and maid duo released

Cp gap, cope

[gritty ridge]

Every tower has viable mc slipper breaker

[hollow lagoon]

lucky me i live in a era where i have tu euhwa

no ol invested

well by that point i prob have the resource anyway

[tropic summit]

zant gonna finish nikke before EoS

[north brook]

Ah tower mc is only 730 so ill have to see it within next month huh

Hopefully not too bad, my cp still blue just because the timegate means normal leveling outscales how much it grows

[tropic summit]

@hollow lagoon how long has it been since you saw blue CP

[hollow lagoon]

blue cp on what?

[tropic summit]

on any mode that is not normal campaign

[north brook]

Think after 400ish tribe tower scaling slows down

[hollow lagoon]

blue cp in pvp counts?

or event?

[tropic summit]

i hate you

[hollow lagoon]

i may be fat finger whale with skill issues but i'm still a deficit player

if cp aint red it aint even fun

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[north brook]

Will be blue when i get there, crazy it barely goes up its almost same req as 710 where i am

[swift mango]

just blue

[north brook]

Yeah the timegate sucks

[hollow lagoon]

i guess ill be blue too

[swift mango]

Zap more and you will be blue

[tropic summit]

blue besto colour i miss those times

[hollow lagoon]

don u see blue every event anyway

zzzzzzZZZZZZ full auto make tea

[swift mango]

ofc not

[onyx scaffold]

that was a quiz
u would be slandered if u didn't know

[swift mango]

I vote guys I know was from my smol bracket now and they keep losing. Guess I'm fighting an uphill battle.

[oak hatch]

@tropic summit can you review my spa teams again pls team 1 is just cp pad team and I couldn’t find a use for Noah on any team so I just put her at team 3 for speed

[swift mango]

Solo raid message deleted in seconds,

[onyx scaffold]

i asked when solo raid would end

[leaden canyon]

Man fixing my cindy going to be painful

I should probably just give up the blue line 1 for a line 2 shouldn't I

idk how to start going back fixing it in an ideal way

[onyx scaffold]

why do u want to fix cindy?

[leaden canyon]

4 attack 4 ele

better pvp stuff and pve stuff

[onyx scaffold]

easy

[zinc flicker]

Y’all what’s the best PASSIVE healer? Doesn’t matter what burst or code

[leaden canyon]

for pvp? probably rapunzel, has good heals without bursting.

[onyx scaffold]

vest arm done.
can lock both lines on arm and get a crit or something usable. it also improves cp

head: lock both. roll until atk appears

boots: full reroll

[zinc flicker]

Ight thx im switching Helm out then. She dies before she can burst anyway and I can’t really switch out anyone else

[leaden canyon]

well I keep the ammo because cindy wants 2 ammo lines but yeah I guess I just temp lock that line and roll for a line 2

talking about the boots

[marble saddle]

@swift mango should i use noah team for t1 now that opponent has put siren there?

[swift tundra]

yo guys giga noob here, never touched pvp ik some units are good like biscuit and centi and stuff but idk what teams would be good to make i dont got that many good b3 i think, would appreciate some insight or example teams

[quick lake]

Noise Trina Cindy THelm Centi
SBS Blanc RH Drake Jackal
Auto

Ensure SBS has lower HP than RH and Drake. Use HP cube to adjust if possible

Wishlist Noah Rumani Scar VestiTU, get Liberalio. Get Jackal to 4/4/4 4OL

[swift tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-noted-notes-gif-26231953

lowkey gonna use the gold ticket for lib

and nay

[swift mango]

Uhmm...

2RL Scarlet+Trina on RRH.

2RL Libby on Cindy

For Team with siren... Hmm, Jackal+Emi+Rumani/xmaid/A clip SG B3 that's not noir+Blanc+Crown. (Blanc could be p3 with Tempering)

Or Blanc/Nayuta+Rumani+MG attacker flex+biscuit+Cindy

[marble saddle]

sorry about that but no libby still

so im skipping the thiccer hp teams

[marble saddle]

could drake work as a Clip B3 SG?

[swift mango]

You could technically use this and hope Noah survive Vesti normal attack I guess. Cube like I put them

[marble saddle]

what about these for t1 and t3?

[quick lake]

poor crust

[swift mango]

T1 zero b2

Put a Blanc in p3-4-5

[marble saddle]

ah my bad

[swift mango]

If 3, use tempering

[marble saddle]

kk

[swift mango]

Get Crown in too to buff Emi.

[covert lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/pray-for-me-y'all-karamo-brown-queer-eye-wish-me-luck-netflix-gif-5151158680992906733

[marble saddle]

who would crown replace then? rumani?

[swift mango]

Also, you could technically you yesterday

Noise+Noah+Crown+Emi+Rapu now that I think about it

[marble saddle]

for t3?

t1 has siren so no chance of that

since my noah pulls taunt from siren

[swift mango]

could work. Remember to put tempering on Blanc

or Vigor whichever lv7

[marble saddle]

t1 failed t3 won. but for some reason t2 won

[swift mango]

yeah team 2 is a win.

[marble saddle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/358816619478253568/1438020548931354795/20251112-0416-50.6158393.mp4?ex=69155c7f&is=69140aff&hm=56fc4c903a5cd60806b51e6d6feb9dcbb57178c96c31bd604b319c16d0be249c&

[swift mango]

Yeah, my bad, should have told you to put Emi p1. Siren stop p2 Emi from bursting. at all.

[marble saddle]

np.a win is a win

even if the method was a ride

dunno why i used that t2 but i cant argue with the results

[swift mango]

4rl Rumani+nayuta/Blanc+Cindy < 4rl Noise+Noah+Cindy

[marble saddle]

is that cause burst order or something else?

[swift mango]

It's because your Noah Block Cindy burst,

While they ate your burst whole

[marble saddle]

no no what im asking is his 109% 4RL vs my 120% 4RL

is 120% here meaning my burst is slower?

[swift mango]

same speed. That's why Noah block cindy

[marble saddle]

i learned yesterday what the 2 -> 2.5 -> 3-> 3.5 -> 4 RL meant
so i thought having the same category would also have slight speed variations

[swift mango]

Yeah, just don't use indom Emi against Siren, unless Emi p1 and the only b3.

[marble saddle]

but wouldnt putting emi on P1 still get her stunned. especially if siren was say p2 rather than p5?

also theres the danger of Helm bursting a jackal linked

[swift mango]

slight is fine, doesn't matter much here. It's defending on your CS vs theirs, but you don't know their CS to tell. Hitting 100% at a RL speed mean it's at that range, adding CS could make it faster still in that range. (exception is Emi on 3-4 RL or Vesti, but you have CS button for that, maybe HelmT at 21%+ CS on 4rl team too).

[marble saddle]

well thank you for the help again. im starting to figure out a few teams by myself now. too bad my lack of libby and vesti is a handicap

[swift mango]

Example here, both cindy team at 4rl, could be 3.5 but not 3.

[marble saddle]

yeah i understood that which is why i thought making a slower 4RL might help me block his cindy with my noah
i just didnt expect it to work so well

plus since i was using noise + rapunzel so any dmg from his nayuta would be technically useless

[swift mango]

120% is actually often faster than 100%. Because you would need less units with charge speed to change/improve the team speed.

[marble saddle]

oh..... so i was technically faster than him but his individual CS is prob higher than mine

[worn ivy]

anyone walk me through it? can adjust teams, have pretty much everyone except xmas ann and rupeee

[marble saddle]

people use ruppee in PVP?

[swift mango]

Like I said, you are same speed rank, so it's fine, It's better that you are faster anyway.

[marble saddle]

fair

[eager mountain]

last secs of prop hunt

[swift mango]

I'm thinking if upgrade snow white. I already have Miranda and Ada maxed out who would buff her.

And my SW is the only pilgrim MLB that I don't use.

[upper grove]

Pve iron main?

[swift mango]

Idk could be used on anything with many parts or a hidden core.

[north brook]

She mostly just for sr now but not bad still to invest

Since they keep making iron pierce and giving iron weak bosses multihit parts

[swift mango]

@eager mountain finally got my first Ele.

You think Crit is good enough line 3 or I should reroll until a CS, ATK or Ele showed up?

[placid bloom]

crit not worth on Lib. Must be Atk/ele/cs or 1 ammo

[ivory violet]

Yeah i wouldn't lock that keep rolling

[junior mesa]

does moran need OL lines?

[swift mango]

Not really. But she could use Atk and Ele as usual. Also DEF.

[junior mesa]

would prio be ele>attk>def?

[swift mango]

I would put them as equal

[swift mango]

Best would be Crit-crit dmg-atk x4 each

but who hardcore enough for that?

[crystal flicker]

If you have enough DEF lines, you might able to clutch

[junior mesa]

what the? crit matters in pvp?

[swift mango]

it help with scarlet nuke and anything multihits.

It's scaled good here because it buff you from the begin of battle without needing to wait until burst.

Ele doesn't need as much in arena because what you face is random. Unless you wanted to specifically counter something like Rosa one shot HelmT, Libby one shot Rapu, Vesti killing Noah/Blanc with normal attack

[swift mango]

4 DEF 4 ATK 4 Crit then.

[swift mango]

yeah, I would see DEF-ATK-Crit being perfect on moran.

[swift mango]

It's very small though.
Because doll and her skill give lots of DEF % that's additive to the OL.

but the more the better I guess

[crystal flicker]

Yeah, DEF contribution is very little

Even Vigor +5% HP is better than Endurance +50% DEF

[swift mango]

Yeah, but for Moran, the sooner you hit that 1 dmg range the better.

[swift mango]

Vigor is 10%, not 5%

[crystal flicker]

Read again

[swift mango]

I would take 50% def over 5% hp for moran anyday. There was the math that 50% def is like 7% hp.

[crystal flicker]

Lv 2 Vigor gave ~5% HP

[swift mango]

At that point just use you lv7+ something else.

[crystal flicker]

And Tempering just 2-3 times better than those

[junior mesa]

what to give sub machine guns for pvp?

as in cubes

[junior mesa]

can someone help me understnd the RL% what am I aiming for exactly?

[eager mountain]

i mean whats optimal really depends on how much u want from her
if u dont wanna invest too much then ignore it and go for 2lines
if u want some investment more and dont care much about optimizing her then ig u can stick with it...
if u chose to suffer like me then reroll cs/ele(maybe ammo)... 4cs or 3cs1ammo is still highly dependent on team context

she would need some cs for 3rl team tho else high cs diff will cause her s1 procs to not fully connect before high cs 3rl lands, minimal gen drop tho

[eager mountain]

%=gen, >=100% means u can burst, rl is a standardized speed unit in pvp context for ease of understanding over frames and seconds since its usually rl that determines gen/burst speed

[junior mesa]

so by the 3rd RL you want it to be 100%..?

[eager mountain]

u should simply read pins but take this random a*s team for example, its speed tier is 3rl cuz gen reaches >=100% at 3rl...
tho lots of factors can alternate speed... like that team is sr speed based not rl based

why did deck automatically equip vigor on them....

[gaunt bane]

What team counters Noah in general?

[swift mango]

In arena I don't think Lippy would need Ammo.
If you need her normal attack indom then 1 ammo I guess.

[zealous vine]

Hi All, I need to beat this player. Does anyone have any good ideas?

[hollow lagoon]

Looks like a 2rl scarlet Trina for the first team

And a slow Cindy for the 3rd team

……. The censoring in this server is out of hand

[covert lintel]

P1 cindy> 1RL nuke team
S.anis>rosanna team
Scar>noah team

[gaunt pulsar]

first time ever forced some dude to gem

[hybrid fox]

may I get some help

[cobalt narwhal]

nero skill recommendation for running moran nero team?

[quick lake]

7/10/7 budget actually 10/10/10

Budget maybe 7/7/4 maybe

but SR10 minimum

[cobalt narwhal]

eh good enough, thank the heavens for the 5x5 supply at least had the books for 7/7/7

[quick lake]

Very nice

[hollow lagoon]

bery cat

[hybrid fox]

sorry if I ask around a lot just that I failed attacks
LLW &

[onyx scaffold]

im too noob to cook 3 attack teams

[patent sail]

How to counter
Moran - Noah - helm - rh - emilia
And
Scarlet - trina - centi - soda - anis

[hollow lagoon]

2rl Noah the scarlet team and u have lww

[shell hazel]

your noise probably dying by vesti before you get to b1 😛 did you watch it?

[quick lake]

Weak Noise

[shell hazel]

biscuit can only save noah, noise is a supporter

but I agree with zanta I'd just 2RL noah the scar it's the most braindead win

only have to watch for drakeT hitting your p5

biscuit will proc on rumani and noah is safu

should also work

[hybrid fox]

indeed as well as sometimes she lives but lately she dies

[shell hazel]

well p1-p3 isn't that safe when opponent has vesti

that's why you usually want defenders or invuln units in p1 and p2 especially if opponent runs a vesti/emi type team

then it's more of a case of checking speed and burst order

[terse abyss]

tfw will never have emilia

[quick lake]

Rerun soon

[terse abyss]

speaking of which i also need that crown alt skin, did i miss the rerun for that ? joiend last august i think

[shell hazel]

the crown pass skin is pretty good to be fair

the gacha one has never re-run and may not

crown pass one is currently active

[terse abyss]

fudge

i feel like ive seen a gacha re-run skin at some point

[shell hazel]

I only saw it for Eva colab

there was apparently another re-run for one other unit once, and it wasn't a popular one

I guess eventually they may re-run them but so far not exactly got a history of doing it

I feel like the pass skin is actually better in some ways and is way cheaper, so an option 😛

plus you get some tickets

[hybrid fox]

so put this team to no2, got it

[shell hazel]

yeah should win, pls record if you can

[hybrid fox]

3RL ok? or rosanna > noise? cuz Emilia gonna die 99.99%

[shell hazel]

move blanc to p3 centi can die after she gives you burst gen

if the other two teams win anyway this is just cope to try to win 😛

curious to see how it goes, if centi lives then it's in trouble. Vesti could go p3 actually

[hybrid fox]

yes always try to cope, because winnable

[shell hazel]

emi centi vesti blanc noise

we want vesti to be taking some damage for indom

[hybrid fox]

LWW,
crap I went to toilet and forgot to check the video off kek

[shell hazel]

lol

yeah expected t2 win should be reliable with such a team

t3 you win because your siren stuns blanc

curious what you got on t1

[hybrid fox]

I got the vid but I hope its not too big

OH

noise hp > centi at 1hp so its centi burst xDDDDDD

ugh webm doesnt have the normal functions like fast forward

[shell hazel]

oh lol centi god damn

if you come across again could try vesti at p2 see if she survives

[hybrid fox]

prob not? since besti definitely dies faster than centi

[shell hazel]

problem with blanc is wind code

vesti is fire code, so she'll likely die if you put her at p2

maybe centi at p1 so she definitely dies? if emi somehow lives to get indom it's not usually a big deal?

if not then vesti should get

[cursive pike]

i’m seeing Soda used a lot with Scarlett. if i was to build her - what’s the recommending investment in her?

[mossy locust]

Anyone wanna help me build team for pvp

[patent sail]

We better avoid this team? Any counter?

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/vesti-nikke-nikke-goddess-of-victory-gif-6999906611543065394

[patent sail]

Jackal vesti blanc ada laplace ... lost to this team

[shell hazel]

have you tried RH buffed?

jackal vesti blanc RH flex (probably needs a fast battery)

oh wait jackal will b1 :p

need to re-arrange that some

vesti blanc RH flex jackal

[shell hazel]

is this just rookie? I wonder if we can siren stun the noah, may depend on Cs

[patent sail]

Spa

[shell hazel]

what about the other two teams? can just avoid the noah/helmt etc altogether then

it's expensive to beat

[patent sail]

Yeah i think it's best to avoid this team

How about scarlet soda team?

[shell hazel]

2RL scar? defenders with 2RL

and likely 2 B2 if you can spare them in case soda gets one

depends what you need for the other team

[patent sail]

Scarlet - trina - centi - soda - anis

[patent sail]

Vesti used for 1 team

[shell hazel]

what is the other team?

[patent sail]

Vesti vs vesti

Let me show u

[shell hazel]

can you win it? if so what pieces are used

[patent sail]

Yeah my vesti bay win this

so now i want to beat either scarlet soda or moran noah

[shell hazel]

can we spare Bay? or is she critical here?

[patent sail]

Replace with who?

[shell hazel]

it depends if you need bay to stay alive or not

I assume they don't indom vesti here as you nuke with vesti + emi before they can?

[shell hazel]

god that looks dicey lol

try this for the scar team but if noah gets stunned it's potentially annoying for you

[patent sail]

Ok thank u ... i was thinking maybe mihara team against their scarlet?

[shell hazel]

could also try nayuta version

at least if noah gets stunned we have moran beating soda to b1 and then noah or nayuta bursting

it's glass cannon scar so they'll kind of fall over if you get to b3

[empty cedar]

Xmaiden can snipe the Moran even at max investment

[shell hazel]

that is not moran noah helmT though

[empty cedar]

Oh no I was just commenting this was from yesterday before the battle and I was told that Xmaiden couldn't snipe the moran

Just wanted to highlight it was posible

[shell hazel]

it's because bay isn't doing much to protect there, noah is a lot more efficient at it

[empty cedar]

I still would snipe the Moran as I outsped 2.5 Rl

I believe I even snipe a noah team

[shell hazel]

noah moran helmT is 2RL

[hollow lagoon]

dis sync 300 applied at my union

[swift mango]

What exactly nis censored? Smash-it?

[hollow lagoon]

idk?

[shell hazel]

is my alt sorry

[hollow lagoon]

no a hippo alt woulb be on hard 20

[swift mango]

It's me.

[shell hazel]

yup this is censored, naughty word

can't be having that

[hollow lagoon]

maybe cuz i'm old but i usually use that word for the collision with violent force purporse

[swift mango]

Campaign normal 28 and hard 20? What kind of master is this?

Maybe it's me alright.

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit

[patent sail]

Do u think this team will have a chance against their scarlet?

Maybe switch siren bis pos ?

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/jahy-sama-anime-clap-clapping-happy-gif-23978583

[hollow lagoon]

[gritty ridge]

Dont clap at my loss

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/clap-slowclap-notimpressed-gif-8195521

[tropic summit]

?

you got really far tho it's pretty remarkable

unfortunate matchup

hilarious how nayuta denied entirely your scarlet

[onyx scaffold]

investment doesn't matter on her
u only need to make sure

• she survives to burst
• your cp is good enough so she survives to burst

[gritty ridge]

And now im gonna get raptured into the next bracket up and never make it past groups ever again

[tropic summit]

i'll be honest with you, who cares

CA is a silly mode, don't bother with it

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/hospital-hello-nurse-gif-26601570

[gritty ridge]

I wanted the frame, and my account is bricked for raids

[tropic summit]

if you play nikke just for CA, i've bad news for you

that mode does not reward effort

it rewards being lucky with the right thing at the right time

[onyx scaffold]

neither is hard campaign nor SR

[tropic summit]

or being massively superior in investiment

[tropic summit]

HM and SR kinda do, at least if you suck at it it's generally a skill issue

CA your skill is only partially relevant

[onyx scaffold]

you push hard mode to get more core dust to level up to push hard mode to get more core dust to level up to push hard mode to get more core dust to level up to push hard mode to get more core dust to level up to ... what is the point

[gritty ridge]

Im basically guaranteed to never get top 100 in any solo raid because of how late my account started

[tropic summit]

the struggle of clearing a boss on high deficit is definitely much more rewarding than copy pasta'ing teams

you literally can't compare an auto mode to a mode that actually requires you to play

[onyx scaffold]

mr. masochist

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/puck-anime-re-zero-clap-applause-gif-17918741

[tropic summit]

it's not masochism but actually playing the game...

[shell hazel]

not bad - top 8 = 8igboi!

[tropic summit]

he did gud

in fact got further than i'd think he would

[onyx scaffold]

the mode is almost rewarding to me

[hollow lagoon]

ill get out of 64 one day

[patent sail]

But by lvling up u not only pushing HM u do better in UR pvp

[onyx scaffold]

UR is not rewarding

[tropic summit]

like most of the community who plays this game don't worry

[hollow lagoon]

@swift mango how does one get out of 64

[patent sail]

Yeah nothing rewarding enough, but still performing is better than being sucks , or why we playing anyway?

[placid bloom]

play to stare at ass

[onyx scaffold]

just play them all

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/youknow-you-gif-19056787

[onyx scaffold]

he is wrong

ppl who push campaign dont stare at ass

neither is pvp ppl

only the ones who don't play can have time to stare at ass

[placid bloom]

no

[tropic summit]

no

[placid bloom]

after you finish malding campaign you need to look at ass to soothe your headache

[tropic summit]

i still stare respectfully sometimes while playing

playing sdoro is a bit distracting

sometimes you get confused at what to slap

[onyx scaffold]

anyway. what is your guess

[tropic summit]

wow so many original teams

good thing at least the vesti variant has 1 different unit

i get the feeling nayuta gonna out trade in SG comp there

as for slow cindy theoretically bay counters her

[mossy locust]

Annyone wanna help me with this

[tropic summit]

R
50/50
R
L (if moran is invested)
R (i guess vesti could kill moran, unsure)

[onyx scaffold]

ok i will bet on my opponent

[tropic summit]

get more opinions imo

once you've more ppl with the same opinion i'd go with that

[onyx scaffold]

my laplace has no ele

moran will live

[covert lintel]

@raven plover his siren and scar's dmg is freaking hurts
I bet it above 90% ED

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• jackal siren scarlet trina noise
• nayuta vestiTU rh centi anchorIM
• noah biscuit rapunzel alice drakeT

Notes

• get helm treasured, get laplace treasured
• wishlist rumani, cinderella
• increase CP on vestiTU and utilities once possible

[tropic summit]

2 splashers + vestiTU DPS is kinda heavy even for moran

i wouldn't rule it out entirely

[onyx scaffold]

only 60% hp moran gone when noah burst

147k cp moran

[tropic summit]

hmm so even after the DPS phase during indom nada

thats crazy... is ada really the only one that can shred that

plus noone can afford running specifically a double buffed vesti to expect dealing with moran

[raven plover]

damn you lost?

[haughty mortar]

RADEKI GUNNA SMASH!

[mossy locust]

Oh thanks . Time to read it

[mossy locust]

my current wishlist (dunno what to get so I just add randomly)

[tropic summit]

highly suggest removing all non meta units and getting the meta ones first, you can get those later

[gritty ridge]

Rail can you help my wishlist too

Also please remove crow

[tropic summit]

that's out of my pvp scope, https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/946720097031045161

[mossy locust]

which website tier list do you recommand for the meta list

[tropic summit]

i'm only a shooting range main

[onyx scaffold]

does this mean cinderella didn't burst?

[gritty ridge]

Show me your box ill help your wishlist

[tropic summit]

ask here for tips on what to wishlist https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/946720097031045161

[mossy locust]

noted

[gritty ridge]

Rail i need your help

[onyx scaffold]

hello. for tier list, i suggest prydwen list
however, prydwen PVP tier list is very bad/outdated

[onyx scaffold]

basically we dont have a reliable pvp tier list atm

[gritty ridge]

Yeah ive seen the wishlist, I need to know who you already have tho

[mossy locust]

I will continue this talk in #questions since I don't wanna disturb other people who need help for pvp

[mossy locust]

ok

[gritty ridge]

I wouldnt reccomend that, 15 sec timer per message

Theres also alot of people in there

Head to team building

[mossy locust]

ok

[tropic summit]

both are fine

but ye team building is more specific i guess

[gritty ridge]

Rail im specifically helping him lol

I dont wanna deal with the questions timer

[tropic summit]

don't spoil him, this is pvp channel

as weird as it may sound from me, keep this on topic

[gritty ridge]

I am

Im gonna put pvp meta he doesn't own in first

He already has most of pve meta

[silk iris]

@tropic summit can i beat this guy?

[pallid gate]

so how was the liberalio? on the pvp side, is she worth the power for pvp?

[tropic summit]

@gritty ridge help him if you're free i'm still in shift

[pallid gate]

dmg look insane but not sure about the pvp side

[tropic summit]

needs to balance CP and set the counters

[gritty ridge]

Yeah im free ill take a look

Deficit hits are my specialty

[tropic summit]

powerful nuke but slow, can be used as flex battery xmaiden tier burst gen

[pallid gate]

oh so it's kinda situational/not as great?

[gritty ridge]

We're going t1 and t3

Lemme see your box

[silk iris]

#pvp-arena message

[gritty ridge]

Whose your cutoff unit before cp drop

[silk iris]

what that mean

[gritty ridge]

Basically where do.your overloaded units end and the low cp units begin

[silk iris]

hmm i would say around poli heres my blabla if it helps https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtMTYyMDAxNjgzNTgwMzU0MjA0Njg%3D&openid=MjkwODAtMTYyMDAxNjgzNTgwMzU0MjA0Njg%3D

[gritty ridge]

Blabla is alot more work, ill go with poli

Here's my reference

[gritty ridge]

I dont suppose you know if that noise is siren proof?

[silk iris]

idk LMAO

[silk iris]

let me see if i have a vid of my pvp with her

[gritty ridge]

Wait you dont have siren

That throws my t3 plans out of whack

[silk iris]

yeahi do have siren

[gritty ridge]

I didnt see her in your box

Am I blind

[silk iris]

heres the vid

[silk iris]

shes at the top

[gritty ridge]

I hate discord so much rn

[silk iris]

wait wtf is my box bugged??? shes not in the photos

[gritty ridge]

I cant watch the video

[patent sail]

Budget moran building pls?

[silk iris]

idk why she was cut off from the box

[gritty ridge]

Sort by exclude siren

Lmao

[silk iris]

can you watch the vid? basically noise got stunned and i was able to burst in time

it was very close tho i think

[gritty ridge]

If noise gets stunned that means they're 3rl

Thats good for us

@silk iris check the cp of these pls

[silk iris]

what cubes? on liberalio esp cuz i never used her

[silk iris]

so we're attacking t1 and t2, not t3 anymore?

[gritty ridge]

Tempura on scar and trina, quantum on jackal and lap, highest level on everyone else

Hmmm, t2 is a little scary

The emi worries me

Swap helm and rumani place

Focus your highest level cubes onto t2

[silk iris]

so just highest levels, screw vigor and quantum?

[gritty ridge]

Not needed on t2

You need to lessen the cp gap

[silk iris]

okay they just have resil and bastion now

[gritty ridge]

Youre biscuit locked, should be good

[silk iris]

i just upgraded my doll on libby hope it helps a little LOL

[gritty ridge]

It does, you should he good for t2 libby nuke is ridiculous

[silk iris]

bet im running it

[silk iris]

uh oh my libby died rip

[gritty ridge]

In p2?

[silk iris]

yeah

[gritty ridge]

That emi is scary holy shit

You have clip?

[silk iris]

ye

[gritty ridge]

Oh she ate scar counters

Smh rumani couldnt clutch

[silk iris]

fat rip anything i should change? i can try it after reset

[gritty ridge]

Im checking to see what we can do

Swap blanc for noah and lib for sbs

[gaunt pulsar]

she doesn't shoots scar though? she shoots emi, it's just emi 3 shot her

[gritty ridge]

I swear I saw her health go down in tics

Yeah, emi is linked

[gaunt pulsar]

loses 1/3 before she shoots anyway, and emi does 3 shots when he still on b1

deficit is brutal

[gritty ridge]

Time for the tried and true, biscuit with a shit ton of defender

Maybe biscuit p2, im not used to emi

[placid bloom]

no fire p2 into water

[silk iris]

so do this one?

[quartz vortex]

this sp team decent?

[leaden canyon]

I won my CA, my moran and rapunzel clutched lol

[silk iris]

this is my cp now and i put quantum back on rumani

[gritty ridge]

Yeah thats much better

[silk iris]

alright ill try that after reset and let you know

[gritty ridge]

Youre out of deficit

My bad for the first loss

[silk iris]

nah youre good haha my deficit def makes it hard

[gritty ridge]

I just didnt know emi hit like that, that was scary

[silk iris]

yeah all the emilia's up here hit harddd

[tropic summit]

good call on scar-jack, for the other team you need padding @gritty ridge

consider something similar to this, you use most of his good CP units

[gritty ridge]

Yeah I noticed it was in deficit but Im not used to only 18% being that rough

Must be from the high sync

[silk iris]

okay should i try this approach then?

[gritty ridge]

OK deficit is hitting me hard too rn

My noise died pre burst that was scary

[tropic summit]

ye if the units are available and you're not in deficit should be fine

even in deficit, that team can hold, but try to be below 18%

[silk iris]

okay bet ill try after reset

[silk iris]

oh wait my lappy is in t1

[tropic summit]

you need a different clip SG burst gen tier to fill for her

[gritty ridge]

How come no cindy?

His cindy team out of deficit

[tropic summit]

up to you

this scar team isn't difficult with noah bis helmt

[tropic summit]

alternatives

since you're being fed by blanc, you'll be 2RL

ensure scar is linked with whoever flex you use in p4

any clip SG burst gen tier unit on high CP will do

[silk iris]

okay yeah i can try noir then

[onyx scaffold]

I'd win

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1172191256701587466/1413242381297254550/Doro_Party_VR_Fast.gif

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/koshi-torako-shikanoko-my-deer-friend-nokotan-dancing-girl-dance-gif-11199697744157962721

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit wtf ate her

[tropic summit]

looks like deficit

[onyx scaffold]

Deficit?

[tropic summit]

the only "hard" hitters there are helmt and cindy but those are not hitting ele weakness

[onyx scaffold]

You do like 3500 dmg per hit
They do 55k dmg per hit lol

[gritty ridge]

Only 18% smh

[tropic summit]

"only"

opponent is on blanc buff upon entering while you're on blanc debuff

26%ish stat debuff

[leaden canyon]

@tropic summit my moran and rapunzel clutched on round 3. I'll record it for you

[gritty ridge]

My noise should tank that smh

[tropic summit]

your noise doesn't think so

[gritty ridge]

I feed her so much and look what she does to me

[tropic summit]

in fact she now needs an ambulance

[gritty ridge]

I mean tbf, she tanked almost enough

[wind kelp]

Bah! So close to failing all, well, "close" :p

[gritty ridge]

This guy bet against me

[leaden canyon]

@tropic summit

[wind kelp]

Totally possible XD

[gritty ridge]

Nah youre in global

[wind kelp]

Well to be fair, the "guy" part is also iffy, but details smetails

[gritty ridge]

Everyone is a guy dont worry

Especially @umbral belfry

[shell hazel]

Hime is a guy

[tropic summit]

Hime is a guy with hairy legs

[gritty ridge]

Rail is a femboy

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-gun-rico-gunslinger-girl-gif-13064962

[leaden canyon]

What do you all think

[tropic summit]

noah taunt priority or noise?

[leaden canyon]

noah has more cs

[tropic summit]

so noise is dead as there's not even split tanking

looks like a very likely 1-4 or 0-5

4 teams countered is wild

whoever is top won lotto

[shell hazel]

damn that t5 noise is very dead lol

[umbral belfry]

Hi(o)me

[shell hazel]

that's clearly why I put noise in the middle 😄

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-anime-girl-running-anime-running-running-love-live-gif-22710773

[shell hazel]

bigboi leg it

[leaden canyon]

Should I have just put noise p1?

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

if split tanking that'd ease the pressure by 2 SGs

RNG based on where enemy puts bsoda and drake tho

[gritty ridge]

A man stands up for his words

even if that means he cant walk after

[tropic summit]

at the end of the day this still CA @leaden canyon , SGs are heavily side oriented