pvp-arena

[swift mango]

If you had enough CS Noah 2rl won't be stunned. If you team isn't 2rl even with feeds Jackal would be stunned regardless. If you are 2rl then sure.

[sleek ginkgo]

Both are 3 rl but he burst faster ? My bay didn’t even have time to burst.
NVM he is a 2 .5 rl

[marble saddle]

how much cs is enough for noah?

[swift mango]

Whole team 11%+ each for RL.

5%+ for SR

[eager mountain]

i dont have ppl running bay for sandbag, so u need blanc to go thru it?

[swift mango]

And team need 2rl.

[marble saddle]

dunno if this is enough then

also noah should be using tempering cube right?

[swift mango]

Well, I figured Liberalio burst damage is bugged to go through Bay if Liberalio survive and can't if not. This need to be reported to be fair when people reported synch shot as bug.

On the left it was perfectly blocked by Bay. On the right it go through just right.

Here is another case.

If this isn't a bug Idk what is.

This is for on the left case.

[eager mountain]

well... technically lib burst doesnt account buffs dropped upon death isnt a bug but
when i first thought it was a bug, that "bug" feedback got no attention what so ever

[crystal flicker]

They choose to fight for 3rd and 4th place instead of 1st and 2nd

[swift mango]

Burst drop upon death isn't a bug. But ignore Bay is.

She is bugged out to ignore Bay cover if she isn't dead.

If she is dead it return to normal unbugged mechanic

[crystal flicker]

You know how to actually count CS

Just don't report it, we don't get paid for it lol

Despite being the game "Tester"

[eager mountain]

i mean emi nuke can also hit thru it

[swift mango]

Because Emi is actual RL shot that hit both cover and nikke.

While Libby is just a wipe that never said hitting cover. Even units that hit parts aren't able to ignore Bay. Why let Libby able to?

And why not able to if she died?

Emi nuke ignore bay cover just fine even if she died after shotting it.

[marble saddle]

well honestly pvp is just too much math for my brain to handle so all im trying to do is figure out how to bypass 2 teams
thanks to blood i got 1 team for his t3
but that siren makes me wonder if i should be risking my noah for team 2

[crystal flicker]

Yeah you just need 2RL 11%

[marble saddle]

i got 2 RL but i need to check the rest

[crystal flicker]

Check Noah, Emi, HelmT CS

[eager mountain]

cuz the dead ver barely does any dmg at all
emi dmg calculated when fullcharge shots, but lib's for whatever reason, accounts buffs dynamically, even tho nuke clearly has cast animation
like her s1 procs buffs also behaves the same, 3s atk buff drop and add hits are no longer buffed, same for nuke

[swift mango]

Barely any dmg # zero dmg. At all.

[eager mountain]

ol buff also dropped no atk at all only the base 925 multiplier and absolutely nothing

[marble saddle]

total cs is

[crystal flicker]

Not like that

[eager mountain]

thats not how u count it but ok

[crystal flicker]

Each of those character should have 11% CS

[marble saddle]

then no.
noah is 9.77 helm and emi are at 4.9 % each

[eager mountain]

lets say lib nuke hitbox actually comes from behind and above to match animation where covers are in front

[marble saddle]

@crystal flickerwould putting Adjutant on those 3 work?

[crystal flicker]

Do you really need Biscuit overthere instead of Noise

[marble saddle]

no. im just trying to figure out how to cook pvp teams by myself so im kinda bad at it

[crystal flicker]

Not enough, you still need like 9% CS from OLs

9% OL + 2% Cube

[marble saddle]

then ill prob avoid using that team. i was thinking about using jackal at pos 1 to bait the siren stun

[swift mango]

It's a bug. Unless the dev just ignore it due to pilgrim privilege.

In the case of Libby dead, Bay cover block multiple hits that stand for multiple nikke getting hit by it. If Libby survive it's just 2 hits on cover. For other units attacks.

[eager mountain]

wait what dead lib burst still ripped bay cover...

[swift mango]

Yeah only dmg the cover and nothing else.

[crystal flicker]

Unless you're facing P1/P2 Siren, this should be fine

[swift mango]

Well, you could use the excuse of Additional Dmg mechanic quirk since only maiden had it before and no one used her.

[crystal flicker]

Nayuta will get stunned, NOah will burst

[eager mountain]

honestly... it could be a bay bug, or both

[marble saddle]

ummm. how invested does nayuta need to be?

[crystal flicker]

She doesn't need investment because she can't die

Just enough to avoid cp deficit

[marble saddle]

fair enough. ill try your recc team

[swift mango]

I mean, Bay already bad enough as is. But everything new come out has a bug to ignore her cover one after another. The last time was Rapipi nuke.

Poor Bay fan can't take a break.

[eager mountain]

but why tf did su make those dmg behave differently and yet only noticiable in random scenarios....
did they planned to make specific dmg to counter specific stuff when first designing the game?

[eager mountain]

there are 3 bay fans

[crystal flicker]

There's a chance their Noah block your Emi tho

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

I see the edit.

[eager mountain]

also keripo's clip has opponent p4 bay cover first rip and then nuke comes right after

[eager mountain]

cuz i actually searched username with bay and then i saw 3 damn cant imagine

[swift mango]

Bay cover practically full in this video.

[glad meteor]

I know someone said lib can kill bay cover with auto hits before aoe because lib is aoe delayed. If alive she can break cover, if dead she cant

[eager mountain]

her fb auto 1 shot 6 hits does like single target dmg of a base scar nuke

[carmine sandal]

how is this soda have immunity? i expect her to die first to scarlet s2 but nah

[shell hazel]

that's scarlet immunity not soda

[marble saddle]

im pretty sure thats scar showing immune

@crystal flicker your team worked
but for some reason the previous team i used to beat his team 3 failed.

[carmine sandal]

i see, but where do the immunity come from though

[marble saddle]

trina

[carmine sandal]

aight i just know this xd thanks

[glad meteor]

Also, Your noah taunts soda so after 1rl she won’t be hurt by scar s2

[swift mango]

Well if you looked bat my Video the cover was full before the hit landed. So what dmg in that split millisecond window that I can't see?

[eager mountain]

ugh the issue is that the nuke wipe one still had cover alive before nuke... but keripo's opponents bay cover got ripped by auto before nuke... nukes regardless

[glad meteor]

Which vid, i watched a couple

[swift mango]

It doesn't really matter if Keripo could do that or not. But it matter that Libby burst ripped the whole 90% HP cover along with bay.

[eager mountain]

frame before wipe

[glad meteor]

Looks like the 5 hits hitting 1 by 1

[swift mango]

This is 40% actually. I was about to correct.

[eager mountain]

whats ur sync again]

[carmine sandal]

aight, do you think changing cindy to siren will work since he only have 1 b3? or will siren die first before the stun happen? burst timing is kinda same

[shell hazel]

I'd be tempted to just beat up the scar team with this instead of trying anti-indom

[swift mango]

501. He around 480. But no deficit in this video. His units all maxed.

[shell hazel]

otherwise you need to slow your indom down a little probably

[glad meteor]

Kinda rng, siren needs to survive 50 hits and enemy scar needs 32 =/+ ammo

Also soda can stun siren

[marble saddle]

would that be enough to deal with vesti?
#pvp-arena message

[shell hazel]

damn how did I miss this one 😄

[shell hazel]

vesti isn't main b3 here, scarlet is

[eager mountain]

all those dmg num popped the exact frame frame, and none of the single num was lethal dmg
so lib burst can be same frame multihit ig

[carmine sandal]

rip its all rng, kinda insane team tbh make me want to build soda

[marble saddle]

yeah but im pretty sure if i kill scar before they burst vesti will be my bane

[shell hazel]

you don't need noah on your nayuta team just need someone to give decent burst gen and not die, nayuta is main b2 there

you have noah b2 no it's fine

they have zero defense so the second cindy b3 you'll win

[marble saddle]

so you are suggesting noah on team 1?

[swift mango]

It's how shared dmg works. 1 instant splitted into 5. On 5 nikkes, so 5 on each for 1 hit wipe that hit 5.

[marble saddle]

while nayuta be solo b2 on team 2?

[shell hazel]

what I said should beat the scarlet, they put a lot of pressure on p1-p3 but biscuit will keep jackal and noah immune long enough

for t2 we just need to swap noah for another clip

[marble saddle]

then what about his siren?

[swift mango]

The numbers are huge actually for something that's supposed to be reduced by 95% by Bay's cover and Bay herself then split into 4. So the cover doesn't have any effect here at all.

[shell hazel]

ahhhh

I see - nayuta eating stun from siren

[marble saddle]

yes which is why another b2 needed

[shell hazel]

then noah is b2 there, makes sense

[marble saddle]

to survive his thelm

[eager mountain]

oh f...
ig just add dmg shenanigans at the end.......?

[marble saddle]

the alternative that i could think of was using jackal to eat his siren but then i dont know if RH would be the B1
plus the thelm could burst before and kill the jackal linked units

[eager mountain]

2b nuke also goes thru bay but its dist dmg not lib add dmg

[shell hazel]

zlaw did we try helm sniping the lib?

[marble saddle]

nope. this was my 2nd atk for the day
so id have to gem if i wanna try again

[swift mango]

I haven't built my 2B but her nuke are 2 separate hits.

[shell hazel]

gimme a min to check the options

[eager mountain]

main hit + single target hit...?

[swift mango]

Yeah.

[shell hazel]

is your vesti ready zlaw?

I can't remember if you have her

[marble saddle]

not even close since ive been working on building my lib and nayuta

[eager mountain]

in that case shouldnt only the single hit does dmg

[marble saddle]

nayuta is finished 67% of the way
lib is closer ro 34%

[swift mango]

The single hit on Bay share dmg is still splited into 5.

Even without cover

[shell hazel]

maybe this but I think perhaps a better t2 is possible

we just copy their indom but rapi should win the exchange

[marble saddle]

moran against a vesti team?

[shell hazel]

moran/nayuta immune p1/p2 on t1

[swift mango]

And not like the first hit doesn't do any dmg at all, just reduced like 90% by the cover.

If she ignore bay cover then she would be able to one shot Bay on the first hit. As it split 40 15 15 15 15 without cover.

[marble saddle]

is the biscuit on t3 only to help jackal stay alive?

[shell hazel]

it's just a lazy mirror of their team

it should just win because of rapi vs lib

[marble saddle]

well i used a similar team and lost so. heres the vid
only difference was no biscuit then
#pvp-arena message

[shell hazel]

biscuit is slower than rumani

your previous team would have been faster

[marble saddle]

ah so you aiming for my indo to prob later than his

[shell hazel]

yes

[marble saddle]

got it

[shell hazel]

biscuit would make team 1 moran extremely tanky though lol

maybe a better t2 is possible here also

[marble saddle]

ill gem and atk near reset then since if i go now and win he'll just win back and my gem will be wasted

[shell hazel]

has he used both tries today?

[marble saddle]

nope. only won 1 time

[shell hazel]

then yeah

[marble saddle]

my 2nd attempt failed

[eager mountain]

[marble saddle]

so im gonna bide my time

[shell hazel]

so for t1 my expectation is that moran starts the battle immune from trina, and nayuta essentially can't die anyway for 9 seconds

that immunity does wear off but you're 2RL so if moran dies, then rumani / nayuta / helm bursts

nayuta very possibly could solo this opponent team but if helm goes off we should be good

[eager mountain]

my 2b isnt built by nor do i have a bay sandbag... might have to fine a clip to reference what exactly happens in that case....

[marble saddle]

ill check spa at about 20 mins before reset since ik he is known for changing teams near reset

tho he might think i wont gem and keep his teams the same so its a 50-50

[shell hazel]

for t2 maybe we just deny them noise

[marble saddle]

by using my siren?

[shell hazel]

you're 2RL there, so maybe we want to keep 2RL if we can

how much CS does your emi have?

[marble saddle]

not 11% thats for sure

my noah is 9.7%
Emi is 4.9%

Thelm is 4.32%

[shell hazel]

are you in range with SR Anis on field perhaps?

if noise dies then rapunzel res

noise at 2RL b1 should get her burst off as long as she's alive ahead of siren stun

[serene sleet]

Thank you

[shell hazel]

tempura cubes on noise/moran here certainly

[marble saddle]

Kk.

[shell hazel]

I think 1/3 should win anyway and t2 isn't too different to what you had in terms of comp

[marble saddle]

Prob. The only reason why I lost t3 was the indom expiring before his

[shell hazel]

check cp though with anis

[marble saddle]

For cp deficit?

[shell hazel]

yes for cp

anis probably not built fully and I don't rec going off to build her for this

[marble saddle]

I don't think I need to worry about that since I'm 20 levels ahead of him.

But sure I'll check when I get back

[shell hazel]

yes likely so as rapi is mg so if they both expire at same time you kind of auto win it

as SR has to charge and mg is instant travel

[wind kelp]

Hmm, with Libby out, i'm once again tempted to build my Yuni(core2) up :p

Although probably not best match, still, could be something fun for a 5rl team or something weird. Maybe with absoluteV2.

[wise horizon]

Looks good to attack?

[crystal flicker]

Yes

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel bruh i woke up and another officer kicked 2 guys

and i already kicked 2

if i dont fill before next union raid, the union gonna do 2.81% less dmg

[shell hazel]

just don't kick yourself 😄

[hollow lagoon]

my boss migh agree to that crazy plan of kicking like 50% of the low performers and cannabalizing another union

[shell hazel]

you may need to if you want to get into top 100

[hollow lagoon]

Convincing him means nothing if I can’t find another union to cannabalizr

Not sure what happened tbh, he was conservative but all of a sudden he wants to progress harder than me

[shell hazel]

was OL rouge and I was accidentally OL an abnormal piece I had on her :9

had to pay credits to feed it to the right one

after paying credits to OL it to begin with

[hollow lagoon]

I ol my rouge

Not expecting you to do it

I did it cuz she hot

[swift mango]

Good luck with that.

[swift mango]

So long aren't unlucky and have Cindy tripped biscuit invulnerability by counters

[shell hazel]

she's good/useful I'll do some, basic ol isn't too bad

I think she wants an ammo roll somewhere as well right?

[hollow lagoon]

Basically ammo and some cs if I can’t find another if u can’t it dosnt matter

[shell hazel]

1st piece was hit rate/cs

[hollow lagoon]

I have some atk rolls on her she can break mirrior container slippers

[shell hazel]

I'll probably basic OL some more

[hollow lagoon]

But people just use Ein anyways

Not important

[shell hazel]

I'm building Ein the moment the SR is over basically

[swift mango]

Are u trying to do 441 clear?

[swift mango]

I spent 3 rocks on rouge too. Same to mast

[swift mango]

New union do be hard core.

[onyx scaffold]

[shell hazel]

no chance, 361

[hollow lagoon]

[hollow lagoon]

Wow hackstor

Imagine 361 clear

[shell hazel]

461 with invested Ein seems doable to me

[swift mango]

Mirror at 361? Try to de level and install a mod APK.

[shell hazel]

lmao losing 100 sync thought I was zanta for a min

[swift mango]

Would make more sense if Tia was Rapu, to counter Rosa

[hollow lagoon]

Did not expect to core 3 rapu but it happened

[swift mango]

You OL her because she hot, I OL her for Ammo line and more stat. We aren't the same.

[noble hatch]

Very interesting, I was analysing that I could win Team 1, 2 and 4

[hollow lagoon]

Of course we aren’t

[noble hatch]

Erms its the whole 5 teams, record every possible detail so we wouldnt miss anything

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

Good luck with thay

[hollow lagoon]

I like fish, you don’t

[tropic summit]

he doesn't know yet

everyone thinks 461 is "doable", the thing is they don't know what it takes

[swift mango]

Now actually use her in CA.

[hollow lagoon]

I did

[shell hazel]

I've been malding all the way here I think I can do it 😄

[swift mango]

Every season.

[tropic summit]

ye that seems the best approach, prevents this from happening

[hollow lagoon]

I also thought I could do it

[noble hatch]

https://youtu.be/QLqBZsVxiU4

Well the cheer is closed, but I feel I got good chance winning team 1,2 and 4

[swift mango]

Try getting 4 Ele on Ein then, and Ada too.

I think you don't need Ein for 461 with Ada around. People did it before. But U need enough ELE

[hollow lagoon]

Prob Need 2high roll attack and destruction cube 7 to start smashing slippers

[swift mango]

Need Ele.
Why keep talking about attack when you have the attack buff from Ada, Anis, Crow and Liter?

[hollow lagoon]

Destruction cube do be great, problem is the last stage qte I still do 1 damage to the circles with 3 atk rolled Ein because destruction don’t help against non parts

[hollow lagoon]

cuz not nuff

[swift mango]

It's enough. Ele is what matters here. Not ATK 4/5 of the team already ATK buffer

Try getting 120% Ele.

[hollow lagoon]

Nah I only had 22%, not nuff rocks to roll

[shell hazel]

I need Ein for missils tower anyway and elec raids I'll build mine some

[swift mango]

On Cindy and Ada

[shell hazel]

btw also possible with lib

[hollow lagoon]

Ein not great for tower

[shell hazel]

no one in missils is

[hollow lagoon]

Qeq Laplace is my go to

[swift mango]

I use Lappy and Elegg.

[hollow lagoon]

Laplace is great

Qeq also great

[swift mango]

And Midhara

[hollow lagoon]

[swift mango]

Nah nope. No resource for that shit

[hollow lagoon]

Tru

[hollow lagoon]

I rolled her way early

Also she’s dual smg

U know my feelings for smg

Reloads fast ammo efficient brrrrrr

[swift mango]

Elusion tower is the easiest now. 2 best Campaign DPS in the game in the same tower.

[hollow lagoon]

Tetra got saved by B milk

I would still say tetra and Missilis about the same ish

[swift mango]

Nope, no gem and rock for that shit too.

[hollow lagoon]

Ur lack of faith in fish

[shell hazel]

my QEQ is not built 🙁

[swift mango]

My fish is MLB from her banner.

[hollow lagoon]

Oh nvm ur a fish believer

[hollow lagoon]

I was playing union mate’s account their qeq is a bit weak

Cancer af

Very built Ein tho l, but still tossed her out and put Laplace

[swift mango]

Duel feeder. The best feeder in the game. Automatic die to Scarlet

[hollow lagoon]

Scarlet 1/5 in ca

[swift mango]

Feed Jackal to from 4rl to 2.

[noble hatch]

Alright both of u enjoy enjoy chatting, i'll go one corner to prayge, tata soon

[hollow lagoon]

everyone run 2-2.5rl equivalent now days it don’t even matter

[swift mango]

Good luck

[swift mango]

Now use her in your next CA.

[hollow lagoon]

Maybe when water meta again

[tropic summit]

helmT and emilia are meta

[hollow lagoon]

What’s a emilia, dosnt exist in my universe

[swift mango]

Yeah what is he talking about.

[tropic summit]

is today Zant bully day?

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel write it up on the calendar

[swift mango]

[hollow lagoon]

I’ll accept it if you let me cannabalizebur union

[tropic summit]

i can relate

[fathom sparrow]

Ein my beloved

Treasure when

[swift mango]

My union already in top 100 so join us instead.

[hollow lagoon]

My Ein is 3atk 1 ele, needs fixing but sanis better

[hollow lagoon]

Have 8 slot open? I have friends

[tropic summit]

Zant has 8 friends

[crystal flicker]

That's insane

[swift mango]

No

[hollow lagoon]

Well there u go

[shell hazel]

and move to SEA also

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/request-denied-30-rock-alec-baldwin-jack-donaghy-i-don't-think-so-gif-10048116790015891823

[swift mango]

And that's no including you.

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/moe-rope-gif-13860497000013452912

[hollow lagoon]

I rather cannabalize this guy’s union, where’s your leader, I’ll pay him 100 bucks

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

[hollow lagoon]

ill actually do it

[fathom sparrow]

As a PVE Andy, my SP arena teams are performing like shit

[tropic summit]

T1 le indom biscuit
T2 le cindy p1 giving opponent 1RL
T3 le why the F is trina p1

post your box and lets remake those teams shall we

[crystal flicker]

Hippo is a whale and you only paid him 100 bucks

[hollow lagoon]

I’m paying his union leader who may be less of a whale

[swift mango]

I think you will have higher chance to be champ if you moved to SEA right now. Because you would be a big whale there in the smallest bracket. Until you merge with 3rd bracket and had to fight day one players.

[tropic summit]

and that's 1 skin and a half worth

[hollow lagoon]

Sea is too Chinese

[crystal flicker]

SEA is Chinese

[tropic summit]

imagine ending up fighting day 1 players and eventually gapping them, I can see this in Zant's future

[swift mango]

I mean your current account. If you created a new one now you will have to face people 1+ years before you.

[tropic summit]

they'll speak tales of the legendary whel who caught up with day 1 players and managed to outsynchro them

[hollow lagoon]

Also my union rank higher than hippos

[swift mango]

I think my Union's Toom already on his way.

[swift mango]

Good job. Now much on to champ

[shell hazel]

uh-oh tenshi on a march as well lol

[crystal flicker]

He uesd to fight me

[tropic summit]

@glad meteor le result

slow cindy failed me

[onyx scaffold]

bruh. my bsoda dies and noir burst

[tropic summit]

meanwhile le noir clutch, f*k vesti indom

[noble hatch]

Let my surface squad finish walking to their destination first

[tropic summit]

blue doll non OL'ed noir let's go

[swift mango]

@hollow lagoon could you show me your research level again? Want to gauge how fast this dude is leveling up.

[hollow lagoon]

101 across

[noble hatch]

Are u guys Thailand Union?

[swift mango]

So he really started in Rapipi event.

[fathom sparrow]

Some help would be greatly appreciated, I don't fully understand the mechanics for arena (clearly) so positioning the units in certain ways confuses me at times.

Also I know I'll only get so far with my investment being 90% in PVE lol

[tropic summit]

bring indom scarlet back

[hollow lagoon]

I actually buy thous

U think my ocd would permit me level thous differently?

[noble hatch]

Oh boy where do we start? I would like to say choose your favourite DPS first, then you form the team around the 5 DPS

[crystal flicker]

My Scarlet actually lost agaisnt Cindy, how odd

[fathom sparrow]

I was previously built around Cindy - Scarlet - Sanis as my main DPS for the 3 teams

[swift mango]

Probably not. Just some random Casual joining together. A casual union.
Level requirement is 400 though. Nothing else aside from that.

[umbral belfry]

jellyfish stall stocks

[umbral belfry]

[worn ridge]

Could someone suggest me a better team for pvp ? I want a team to stop 642 lvl players ( im 602) but this defense work yesterday once and not anymore any tips ?

[swift mango]

Weak scarlet.

[umbral belfry]

not enough

[crystal flicker]

I just remember it'ss not 1.7RL

[umbral belfry]

p5 unlinked noah

def sgs just waiting to backsh*t that mistake

[swift mango]

Keep changing def. Unless he doesn't have arena investment and any arena knowledge you won't be able to beat him on def forever.

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• jackal siren scarlet trina bsoda
• rumani noah lib biscuit drakeT
• nayuta helmt rh rapunzel sbs

Notes

• get laplace treasured
• finish doll on drake
• improve CP on your utilities (biscuit, noah, noise, rumani, centi, trina)
• get teams reviewed once these are fixed, as some improvements can be made

[hollow lagoon]

lol, my previous union guy not having fun

[crystal flicker]

She's lack 1 ATK yeah

[swift mango]

Saving 100 Standard ticket for 1 SSR. Now remind me why I never do standard discount pull.

[fathom sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/mother-of-god-gif-10218431

[swift mango]

I mean, no dupe as well. Idk if your research level keeping up too.

[crystal flicker]

The solution for SG vs Biscuit

[crystal flicker]

She's core 1

[noble hatch]

Alright byebye guys. im out, see ya next CA

[swift mango]

maybe I mistook.

[swift mango]

Why so much Ele.

[tropic summit]

ok my next opponent could be it

it was nice

[swift mango]

I guess 3 atk line on Rosa are enough. Time for me to find time to get 1 Crit dmg for scarlet.

[tropic summit]

pve main unlike you

[swift mango]

My Scarlet has 3 ele.

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

While I only need 1

I always cheer right if it was for other underdog.

[tropic summit]

@umbral crown dafuq happened here

[umbral belfry]

go rail do your academy proud

I'm already out but you already saw why

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-anime-trash-gif-27253394

[swift mango]

Ada life steal back after Rapu revive her.

[shell hazel]

Rail champ run let's go

[tropic summit]

oof

[gritty ridge]

Chat, I might sweep my top 16 match

[shell hazel]

Bigboi champ run let's go

[swift mango]

I think I may quit it with soda and back to Red hood next season for scarlet.

[shell hazel]

my soda did so badly lol

[hollow lagoon]

looks like nero still getting used

good thing i didnt reset mine

[shell hazel]

nero is back

good thing I reset mine

[umbral crown]

Did i win or lose?

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/koshi-torako-shikanoko-my-deer-friend-nokotan-dancing-girl-dance-gif-11199697744157962721

[tropic summit]

I am bringer of bad news

[swift mango]

Smoll account. Scarlet not strong enough if not Crit. Rossanna one shot scarlet so not b3. .etc

[tropic summit]

that BS team that got you actually made you lose the match

[shell hazel]

[umbral crown]

[hollow lagoon]

my scarlet is actually so bad lel

[tropic summit]

then again SGs against biscuit locked team ofc

[shell hazel]

my matches
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o62ozrPkleA

[umbral belfry]

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

@umbral crown this was the other loss

[hollow lagoon]

lucky soda?

[shell hazel]

my vesti still undefeated (as is slow cindy)

[swift mango]

You need Cinderella p1-2 to win against scarlet. Otherwise no point using Nayuta.

[swift mango]

My Vesti haven't been defeat for 4 season.

[tropic summit]

cindy got 1 tapped

[hollow lagoon]

my vesti lost to a stronger whale's vesti

last season was this guy

[tropic summit]

@umbral crown
need to invuln. cindy or ripperoni

on the other hand biscuit was still alive

smells of crit diffed too

ah the cancer of CA

[hollow lagoon]

i completely forgot running my siren with scarlet makes her no longer immune to siren stn

[covert lintel]

So many feed that even scar escaped stun

[gritty ridge]

Im fairly sure I counter

[tropic summit]

oh ye 37 ammo and unstunned

actually nvm it was 20

he's siren immune @covert lintel

[covert lintel]

20

[leaden canyon]

@tropic summit I only lost the 50/50 scar fight

my sg team won again lmao. his rosanna hit my soda and nayuta

[umbral crown]

[leaden canyon]

I think nayuta sg team is actually superior now wtf

I'll record it

[tropic summit]

well having an unkillable p1 def. helps any team

albeit it steals a b2 and feeds

[fathom rock]

Ca results out yet?

[tropic summit]

ye

[covert lintel]

I'm right

[leaden canyon]

I mean so far its won against scar teams and sg teams

[fathom rock]

Time to check the result of the mildly interesting t1 fight I have

[drifting spear]

I mostly care about solo raid so I haven't looked into pvp comps that much, but how do you counter biscuit/Noah teams

[tropic summit]

depends on the biscuit noah team

[drifting spear]

Let's saying biscuit Noah nuke

Most of my rookie arena is biscuit Noah and someone that wipes me out like scarlet

[tropic summit]

there are several approaches:

• can stun noah to prevent B2 and penetrate the team
• can back stab behind your own noah, typically with units that can hit whole team (RRH, vestiTU, emilia...)
• can outDPS during indom (vestiTU, emilia, RRH...)
• can actually wait it out, slow cindy excells at this
• can play the long game with a team that bursts twice, typically involves RH

[fathom rock]

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/easy-stuff-bakugo-anime-mha-gif-21863696

[leaden canyon]

SG vs SG

[fathom rock]

This is too good lmao

[tropic summit]

lmao nayuta ate those SGs for breakfast

[leaden canyon]

So far nayuta with sg team is surprisingly performing better than I thought

[drifting spear]

How does stunning Noah work. When I'm up against Siren I I have Noah in p2 she gets stunned.

[fathom rock]

Nayuta and libe exceeded expectations for pvp

[leaden canyon]

That means your noise has more charge speed and noah is taunting siren

Noah needs more cs

[fathom rock]

Noah taunt siren because siren is p1/p2 and noah taunt on hit?

[drifting spear]

Oh that's probably exactly it

[tropic summit]

if a team runs noah p1, siren can stun noah from any position, as long as enemy team does not run 11%CS team wide
if a team runs noah p2-p5, siren can stun noah if she's ran in p1 or p2, as she'll be taunted and shoot noah, assuming it's a noah taunt priority and team is not running 11%CS team wide

[fathom rock]

I actually had a chain before where noah taunted p3 mermaid without target skip, was a genius setup on defense end I'll give them that

[gritty ridge]

Rail guess what

[tropic summit]

you're pregnant? congrats

[gritty ridge]

Yeah ofc🫃

[hollow lagoon]

who's the mother

[leaden canyon]

I believe noah just need 4% more cs than noise? if they both have the same cs then you put noise p1 and noah p5, p5 noah fires faster, so if they are the same cs then noise will taunt on hit siren instead of noah

[gritty ridge]

Maybe retro

[fathom rock]

I'm defend

[drifting spear]

Noah's taunt is exclusive to her using full charge right? So could I essentially have helm be my b3 to just nuke whoever wpuld be bursting on the enemy team?

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit I told you it would happen

[drifting spear]

Assuming faster than their Noah team to hit before she invulns?

[hollow lagoon]

noah also aoe taunt on burst i think

[tropic summit]

that's a fake SG team, blue doll rosanna and dafuq is doro doin' there, you'll swipe this

[gritty ridge]

Theyre still 3.5rl

Same speed as me before my quantum

[leaden canyon]

The on hit taunt just taunts who ever her attack hits/splashes onto, so normally noise and noah will taunt p1 and p2

[tropic summit]

helmT is a B3, noah is a B2, if on same speed, noah casts before helmT nukes, so keep it in mind

[tropic summit]

blue doll ross gonna tickle

[leaden canyon]

unless the noah team is slower to burst

[fathom rock]

This is a given every ca lmao
Cup vs pig

[gritty ridge]

Mine will too considering shes getting dispelled

[tropic summit]

grab yer popcorns i guess

[gritty ridge]

As long as they cant eat through poli i should win

[drifting spear]

I might have to finally just invest in ol gear for my pvp people I use all the time. I've focused more on solo raid so jackal/biscuit/Noah don't have ol

[swift mango]

Not really exceed. It's expected.

The only thing unexpected is the Libby ignore Bay's cover bug. That everyone can use instead of synch shot only for special individuals.

[gritty ridge]

Tho tbh I doubt they have s1 at lvl 7

[hollow lagoon]

all this time my ros is only 2 atk lel

6/9/9

[gritty ridge]

My rosa may get hit with a whole 1 dispell

Gonna take her noir buff

[swift mango]

More attack is actually a brick. She would be dispelled by enemy Rossanna

[hollow lagoon]

true

[gritty ridge]

Just have full blue line rosa and full black line soda/drake

[swift mango]

Happened to me. After getting 3 atk line

[shell hazel]

Retro won again

[leaden canyon]

Oh? I had no idea, thats probably what happens to mine then because my scar has 1 attack line so bricked

[hollow lagoon]

my scar is only 2 atk

sigh

[leaden canyon]

My scar attack line is also only 6%

[hollow lagoon]

i have a 10% and a 6%

[leaden canyon]

Also she has 2 black ammo lines and lots of ele

more pve scar

[hollow lagoon]

i have 3 ele but my ammo is 31 tha tmuch i fixed

[leaden canyon]

see I'm not going to fix her till I'm sitting on like 100 rocks to fix that

[hollow lagoon]

if i have 100 rocks i rather fix my sbs

[leaden canyon]

because rolling off 2 black lines big cp drop

honestly I should fix my cindy

[hollow lagoon]

my 3 atk 3 ele cindy is serviceable

[leaden canyon]

Not enough rocks to go around though now that we have lib and nayuta

[hollow lagoon]

funny how 3/3 atk ele is the best i got

[fathom rock]

Libe is allergic to ele

[gritty ridge]

Why is pvp chat full of atk% bricks

[leaden canyon]

Because I split between pve and pvp

[fathom rock]

My ross is one of my only 4x atk units

[hollow lagoon]

my lib is also 3/3

[leaden canyon]

I honestly just need to choose a lane at this point

All in pvp or pve

[shell hazel]

i'm cp pad lib galore

[fathom rock]

Anyway my moran nero vs indom, my sg vs moran, my cindy is facing vesti, ggs

[hollow lagoon]

says pad lib but shows 3 ele

[shell hazel]

is good but no atk

[fathom rock]

Pad doesn't have to be 4 ele

[shell hazel]

if I want to add atk most need full rolls

[hollow lagoon]

better than ym 1 ele sbs

oh wait i think i fixed it

[fathom rock]

You should get exiled

[swift mango]

Ele is better anyway

[hollow lagoon]

teach me how to hack meth rocks

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-doro-dorothy-pipe-bomb-gif-4643514375044855612

[hollow lagoon]

i got no rocks to roll this

[shell hazel]

it is yes

[valid inlet]

Good luck next season @wild hemlock

If I luckily get into top 8 I will probably meet our 4-time winner and then Eon before final our half this season is brutal

I never won against 黑桐七瀨 the past 4 times I met him, I was countered badly every time, and it seems the same this season

[wild hemlock]

[hollow lagoon]

here's my whatever rolled lib took 40+ rocks shrug tier

could be better but i have worse units to fix

like my sbs

[umbral belfry]

pvp g o o n

[hollow lagoon]

would like more cs for more pew

[valid inlet]

How’s going this season @umbral belfry

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/coffin-dance-gif-21318528

[umbral belfry]

I got out in top 64 against my union mate

so I too am out

[hollow lagoon]

i died at top 64 too, seems to be a common occurrence

[valid inlet]

SG win over Mihara damnnnn

[umbral belfry]

this is all your fault

[fathom rock]

Check my matchup pls, how cooked am i

[crystal flicker]

The tides isn't tiding for me, I probably lost top 16 lol

[umbral belfry]

cups rosa sniped my blanc

[hollow lagoon]

stealing my rocks nets u my bad juju

[umbral belfry]

1 sec

[wild hemlock]

My 3 teams that were part of my winning CA run all lost and the 2 teams I adjusted won so idk what to believe in anymore. I'll just say I got unlucky

[wild hemlock]

But how

[valid inlet]

Lib and Nayuta is making the environment more complicated now

[umbral belfry]

[hollow lagoon]

time to disgust @fathom rock with my sdoro 1/1 atk ele

[valid inlet]

But I like my Nayuta SG so far, just feel bad for Poli

[umbral belfry]

poli :(

[hollow lagoon]

man i invested xanne for sg comp

nayuta comes out

regretz?

[umbral belfry]

@fathom rock vs @glad glade

[crystal flicker]

XAnne did great

[wild hemlock]

Kinda what happened to me vs Nana once. Ros snipe doing enough dmg to skip the biscuit trigger. I'm assuming you don't have max dolls on that team

[umbral belfry]

[wild hemlock]

[umbral belfry]

[wild hemlock]

Is your blanc x4 atk

[hollow lagoon]

what's with the middle mihara

[umbral belfry]

she is not

[wild hemlock]

Crazy

[umbral belfry]

comp works fine, but she died either way

[crystal flicker]

How can you're not undertand

[hollow lagoon]

i dont understand a lot of things

[umbral belfry]

now lemme check retro's matches

[shell hazel]

my lib keeps getting killed in my stall comp so I wind up bursting with helmT and winning that way 😄

[crystal flicker]

The 1st Bicsuit proc got removed by Rosa

[hollow lagoon]

ur saying that blanc got lowered so fast it happened before rosa fired 10 bullets

[valid inlet]

Not my Rosa but my Vesti w trio

[hollow lagoon]

and that blanc is somehow higher atk than mihara and biscuit

[umbral belfry]

first bisc went to rumani, rosa crit killed blanc, then after

[crystal flicker]

You mean Rumani

See

[umbral belfry]

my blanc doesn't have high atk

[leaden canyon]

What do you all think

[wild hemlock]

Oh right

[umbral belfry]

bisc is my 2nd highest

[hollow lagoon]

i put cindy in p5 usually

[umbral belfry]

[hollow lagoon]

that's a stacked blanc

i made my blanc gear pink and havent looked since

[umbral belfry]

[sick warren]

can i have 3 teams for pvp

[hollow lagoon]

lol i have 2 atk blanc

2X 11.81%

what's the popular positioning for slow cindy now days anyway

[late tiger]

Does RH have to have 11% cs, too, to avoid siren stun for a b2 in p1?

[crystal flicker]

TTTTB

[crystal flicker]

Does you need RH to reach 2RL

[late tiger]

Ye, team is 2RL, but reaches 2RL without RH

[leaden canyon]

am I stupid, idk what the T and the B are

[hollow lagoon]

top bottom

[leaden canyon]

oh right

[crystal flicker]

Then no

[leaden canyon]

I would like to point out that t1 might lose

[hollow lagoon]

idk, i dont like t3

[late tiger]

Is there a rule of thumb?
As in as long as i reach 2Rl with 3 units, the rest can be below 11%?

I see, thanks

[hollow lagoon]

i usually run mana variants of nero stall and i usually lose to stalls that dont run mana

[leaden canyon]

I do have more sustain, but I guess if it goes to the second burst S.anis will eat through me if I cant sustain through her burst on mana burst

[crystal flicker]

Stall vs Stall always about investment diff

[umbral belfry]

@fathom rock

t1 you
t2 leaning you (your baby noir though )
t3 ket
t4 you
t5 you only if noise lives to burst. if she doesn't, then ket

[hollow lagoon]

i invested mana

[umbral belfry]

your t5 is extremely risky retro but gl

[leaden canyon]

My nero, rapu and helm are more invested than his

[hollow lagoon]

a lot

[umbral belfry]

t2 could be a loss though

[hollow lagoon]

i'm a max core mana

oh wait

[umbral belfry]

max whale zant

[hollow lagoon]

core 6 mana

[leaden canyon]

Left is his and right is mine

[hollow lagoon]

that's a 170k sanis

ur gonna have to sustain through

[crystal flicker]

Moran have more CP than Helm

[hollow lagoon]

anyways let us know how it goes

[umbral belfry]

[leaden canyon]

I also have a level 14 temp cube on that whole team

[umbral belfry]

I think mana can help fend off sanis 2nd cycle

[hollow lagoon]

my core 6 mana cant even fend a laplace

[umbral belfry]

[crystal flicker]

I don't believe SAnis can do anything funny offburst

[umbral belfry]

she's a hero not much mana can do

[crystal flicker]

I did fight one and I won lol

[hollow lagoon]

i'm a mana simp

[leaden canyon]

My rapu is like a hidden dps with how much attack she has lol

[umbral belfry]

not enough of a simp to c7

[hollow lagoon]

could go either way but @shell hazel has been telling me mana variant's been doing bad for 4 seasons by this point

[leaden canyon]

rapu has like 30% attack lines

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• jackal siren scarlet blanc emilia
• noise noah cindy helmT rumani
• centi biscuit lib rh noir

Notes:

• synchro lvl 262 but you've emilia... your ranked modes are screwed because all of your opponents will heavily gap you, keep it mind
• increase CP on your utilities, they're all fairly low (biscuit, jackal, noah, rumani, blanc, centi)
• increase CP on your core B3s, especially emilia and scarlet

[umbral belfry]

||lib stall is the new way||

[covert lintel]

Share team

[leaden canyon]

that would win the mirror

[umbral belfry]

I'll record gimme a sec

[shell hazel]

I dunno I just rarely see the mana version winning lol

[tropic summit]

||noise noah liberalio biscuit helmT your mom||

[crystal flicker]

Wait I can

[hollow lagoon]

me too and i use her my self

[leaden canyon]

Weridly enough I might win p5 btw. I already ran into that sg team in advanced

and I won

[empty cedar]

This is the only battle I'm not sure who would win as I know the enemy has higher rl but Rossana of mine can remove jackel and snipe both attackers.

[umbral belfry]

beats slow cindy too

[covert lintel]

Someone said lib is not good for nero moran team when i'm thinking of changing my lap+ to lib

[umbral belfry]

Lap+ loses to mana and xmaid

[hollow lagoon]

i can get into dis

[umbral belfry]

as much as I love lap

[leaden canyon]

I do wonder if my p1 will do this again, its litterally against the same team #pvp-arena message

[crystal flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/vtuber-hololive-ホロライブ-ラプラスダークネス3d-3d-gif-26066789

[hollow lagoon]

speaking of lap

[umbral belfry]

I bring grave news

your xanne dies from vesti and likely by then it's over with indom

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel u should have achieved the full auto kraken 7 now no?

[leaden canyon]

we already had full auto kraken

I think that version might die if you dont do the qte

[hollow lagoon]

u die wayyyy beofre qte but gets 7 anyway

[leaden canyon]

ah it just melts that fast

[empty cedar]

Noooo I had a good run but yeah I knew it was dire.

The scarlet team of his is definitely crafty.

[leaden canyon]

I'll have to try in mock battle

[hollow lagoon]

first elemental shield u die then battle ends, fast and efficient

[umbral belfry]

the double sacc

what did epinel do to deserve that

[covert lintel]

I'm comparing lap to lib not mana and xmaid

[umbral belfry]

I know. I'm saying I don't suggest putting lap on stall when there's better options

and I love lap

[shell hazel]

I didn't try it yet

[hollow lagoon]

just derpier for me to do full kraken kill now since i have to manual burst when i need crown shield aaaaa

[covert lintel]

@quick lake it appears lib is strong on nero moran team like i was thinking last week

[keen vapor]

That's not tomorrow girl

[empty cedar]

This is a lost battle @umbral belfry

[keen vapor]

Nero gaming going downfall once again

[empty cedar]

Getting stun with Moran sucks

[umbral belfry]

there might be hope I think

[quick lake]

indeed, strong nuker Libby

[placid bloom]

does it matter, they can't get past double tank frontline

[keen vapor]

Just use maids with lib this doesn't works

[empty cedar]

Liberalio one shot is stronger then scarlet

[umbral belfry]

nero stunned, helm snipes mihara, moran b1 blanc b2, lap b3?

[placid bloom]

stun makes 0 diff

[hollow lagoon]

[umbral belfry]

anchor burst though. idk

[placid bloom]

Mihara doesn't die, probably Lap does

[umbral belfry]

oh I misread cores

yeah it might be

[placid bloom]

but it's basically a 0 tank team

[quick lake]

My wind is so strong that I can speed run krak

[placid bloom]

into a Biscuit tank full burst

they get gunned down after full burst

unless their Helm heal is that strong

[umbral belfry]

you mean blanc?

[placid bloom]

not even Blanc, it's Biscuit Moran no?

[umbral belfry]

it is but blanc is bursting not bisc

[placid bloom]

how are they getting over that, Emi only hits p3 and Lap already dead

[hollow lagoon]

2 ele sbs lel 3 mid as hell ele roll lib 2 ele siren, i woulden't say strong

[placid bloom]

it's 10s invin + indom + Moran triple heal

[umbral belfry]

I don't think mihara burst is gonna clear manchor + helm burst even with blanc

[placid bloom]

once Helm heal runs out they lose

[umbral belfry]

but I guess maybe? idk though

[placid bloom]

they cannot kill Moran

[umbral belfry]

True

[shell hazel]

bareeeelyyy lol

[umbral belfry]

there's hope for nelex

[shell hazel]

qte got me just as I ticked over to 7

[quick lake]

using maid anchor?

[placid bloom]

you're also bursting slower because Mermaid stun so your FB lasts longer than their FB

[shell hazel]

no using the team linked

[placid bloom]

there's no way Moran dies there ever

[empty cedar]

Yeah my mihara may die sooner then helm burst which would snipe the Laplace and I'm doneso

As they can stall though last game Moran stalled a cinderella until timer.

So Moran can survive more so with Blanc but yeah my second team is the weakest

[hollow lagoon]

my pve qubes are higher than u O.o

[placid bloom]

Mihara is never getting hit

[shell hazel]

yes certainly so

[placid bloom]

unless you are defender and Helm can shoot her

[umbral belfry]

believe

[shell hazel]

my resi is 10

[umbral belfry]

nelex top 8 run trust

[placid bloom]

[hollow lagoon]

my resilliance is 8

[shell hazel]

my nayuta needs some better rolls still but they're OK as well

[placid bloom]

if you are defender then maybe gg

[umbral belfry]

he's attacking

[shell hazel]

nani

[hollow lagoon]

prob cuz i have more dupes

[placid bloom]

I am pretty sure Moran solos

[umbral belfry]

[placid bloom]

that team has peepee Atk

they can't kill her once her HP drops low enough for Def passive

[empty cedar]

First team i win as his noah isn't built at all

[hollow lagoon]

maybe quantum on nayuta to cycle burst faster.....

[umbral belfry]

max xmaid

[empty cedar]

Yeah man I maxed her out

Worth it

[shell hazel]

maybe, either way it's close to auto 7 reliably I guess a roll here or there or some minor upgrades is enough

[hollow lagoon]

ye

[empty cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/activation-neutron-think-brain-monkey-gif-1683241036589818476

😆 shut up and take my money

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/cena-ass-john-cena-gif-12412994414466314679

[empty cedar]

I maxed out the cube here is the stats for it if curious

Though I am indecisive with what other cube to go for I taught bastion but becuase resilience seems overall better i went for vigor for Cinderella and maiden helps also for pvp

[leaden canyon]

Tempering better for pvp

[hollow lagoon]

resilience 8 / bastion 8 / quantum 7 / tempering 7 / adjutant 6 / destruction 8 sums up about the cubes i use most of time

[empty cedar]

Damage reduction fair though with jackel link and other characters tend to benefit with hp buff and dolls also gives the damage reduction to not die in the neutral

[leaden canyon]

Jackal can just get quantum

Also tempering still works on linked units

[empty cedar]

I rarely use quantum as it really is overrated for pvp as their little team that really depends on that minor buff to burst generation it gives

[hollow lagoon]

gonna try to resilience/bastion/destruction 9, then work to get quantum/tempering to 8, then wingman and adjutant to 7

[leaden canyon]

I used quantum more on jackal now because I found out it affects her feed

Can get away with less batteries on the team depending what shes going against

[empty cedar]

How fast can a team burst i believe the fast as I seen was in 3 seconds

This sac team was the fastest I've seen though it has its weaknesses

[leaden canyon]

I think keripo tested the fasted team, let me look for it

[empty cedar]

I like to see

[placid bloom]

standard 2RL team with no cs gets to 100% burst gauge in around 2.5s

[empty cedar]

3 seconds to full burst

[leaden canyon]

#pvp-arena message found it

[covert lintel]

Clip rl> quantum is a must
Clip sg below> tempering is a must

[empty cedar]

Sac team with Rossana yeah I figured

With helm of course

[placid bloom]

Scar Trina with 24% team cs gets to 100% gauge at 2s, B3 at 3.5s with no FB

with no feed

that's about as fast as you can get without your opponent deliberately making you faster

[shell hazel]

I don't think he managed to have any example of it actually working though was more theory

[quick lake]

0.79 RL

[placid bloom]

there's no way lv1 Anis survives 1 Scar bullet

[empty cedar]

The only counter I see against a sac team is just to have your own Rossana to also feed from it or now that nayuta is out if she isn't has highest attack or second she can survive straight up just win

[quick lake]

Could do like a lv80 Anis

[tiny scroll]

Currently using these for SP Arena DEF from the pins. Jackal VestiTU Blanc Centi Emilia (2RL) Scar Trina LapT Rumani xMaiden (2RL) Noise Noah* Cindy THelm ClipSG (2.5RL) But with Libby and Nayuta now added should I change it up some? Here's my box for reference.

[quick lake]

I still have my regular Mast at lv 80 for sac

[empty cedar]

My my refine taste you have their

[placid bloom]

I don't think lv80 Anis survives 1 lv900 Scar bullet

[quick lake]

Just level Anis to lv200 lv 199

[placid bloom]

[tropic summit]

lvl what

900? see you in 2 years

[quick lake]

Whales at sync 1010 already

[covert lintel]

I don't want to waste a CD on something like that

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/apothecary-diaries-maomao-anime-anime-girl-reaction-gif-8725892882349126030

[empty cedar]

I'm barely 601

[leaden canyon]

I couldn't do a level 1 anis because I would be in deficit but there is nayuta sack

[umbral belfry]

this was p fast too

[covert lintel]

Lv1 anis is fine
With the goal of 20% cs above

[empty cedar]

What was the cp dif for that

[placid bloom]

actually that is true, if your opponent has 4 lv1 SG into Scar Rosa, you can get 100% burst gauge on first SG volley

[tropic summit]

i can last longer than that

[placid bloom]

that is the fastest burst you can get

[umbral belfry]

too much math for my tiny brain to bother trying to figure out lmao

but my scar team is 20 cs jack and 18 trina and anis

[umbral belfry]

[empty cedar]

Yeah I figured even if I have basically the same 2rl as that team with this

This is still gonna win

[umbral belfry]

goodbye epinel

[placid bloom]

maybe his Rosanna will crit, you never know

[quick lake]

Double sac?

Maybe some VestiTU counter

[leaden canyon]

Interesting to run that in round 3, I mostly run into stall comps in that round

[covert lintel]

At season 1 i tried sac with pascal and it didn't work
Pascal always survives until burst

[placid bloom]

well it's hard to sac at lv400

realistically only SG team is killing you

[empty cedar]

Who would win in this battle.

I'd consider it my victory what you guys think

[leaden canyon]

I want to say you win it

[placid bloom]

this guy has a lot of sus team

[leaden canyon]

let me check the tea mspeeds

[placid bloom]

no need to check

3 regular RL and SAnis

[empty cedar]

2.5 rl as mg helm is built

[placid bloom]

4RL just eyeballing

[empty cedar]

...

Yeah

[leaden canyon]

I was just making sure

And then tia re enter delay

so yeah you win

[placid bloom]

Biscuit doesn't matter when Nayuta is hitting the entire team

they will have no B2 or B3

just Tia into Moran

and then dead

[quick lake]

Anyone tried like a 2.5RL Indom Miranda Nayuta nuke

[empty cedar]

The team that I made with Nayuta did win every battle it face off even against Rossana scarlet teams just cus the rapunzel stun

[leaden canyon]

I did but it was deficit so not a good test

had to try and survive sg at deficit and couldn't use biscuit so I did nayuta moran

[quick lake]

HMMM... I will try it out next reset maybe

[empty cedar]

The best team with nayuta i made was scarlet-helm-nayuta-trina-jackel

Basically two aoes at 2Rl and Rossana can't debuff nayuta with both attacker in play

[noble hatch]

https://youtu.be/V_d7CYnkriA

Kus kus kus, Kussy on the bussy, Ma Drillas~♥
This is for people who want to know more about Champion Arena, feel free to check it out.
Peace out, see ya all next week~
I'm out~

[swift mango]

But the other team burst with helm and also only 3rl. Could be taunt by Tia assuming 4rl. Then it would be S.Anis win with all the buff she get blasting at Helm and Cindy who stuck on Tia.

The could hope for Rapu stun though. If Rapu doesn't stun high chance right would lose.

Even if HelmT shotting at Ada and kill her S.Anis could still win.

it's just like slow cindy beating HelmT. we have Slow S.Anis with biscuit beating helmT.

[onyx scaffold]

where should i be stuck at?

[swift mango]

30% deficit with this team.

hard to go higher

[onyx scaffold]

i dont do math

how much cp for that

[swift mango]

You are at 23.5% deficit.

[swift mango]

511k

You could actually be stuck right now if you aren't hardcore pusher. It's fair.

[onyx scaffold]

nice

im too lazy to push

i need a wall that deserves my time

i dont rmb any wall in ch17

beside the boss

[swift mango]

Then just try to push to the boss.

Or wait for your CP to go up. Check and compare with other of your Arena

To see if you are doing well enough now.

[onyx scaffold]

my cp is 5% lower but my sync is 2 higher

[swift mango]

I mean, the campaign progression.

[onyx scaffold]

i think im 2 chap further

[fathom rock]

Baby noir cute

[swift mango]

Guess u r safe then

[onyx scaffold]

but considering my acc is day 1 acc. there are many ppl higher campaign than me

[fathom rock]

How tf am I winning t4

Nayuta solo at work?

[fathom rock]

Wait that's him?

[onyx scaffold]

im still bullied in spa

[umbral belfry]

yes

[fathom rock]

Hime my T4 is 3rl not 2.5rl I'm 99.9% sure I get cooked here

[umbral belfry]

retro...

what have u done

you are correct

I was imagining the invisible trina instead of rh

[onyx scaffold]

actually i can stop based on wherever the next cd break point is

[fathom rock]

Previous season 16
This season 16
Man....

Well i can't play ca again anytime soon

[umbral belfry]

retro no

we still gotta meet in ca

don't go

[tropic summit]

you can but it will cost you

||a lot of gems||

[fathom rock]

I CAN'T EVEN WIN IN A ATTACK HOW TF-

I believe one of the teams is 1m cp
At sync 421

[tropic summit]

it has gotten that bad uh

[fathom rock]

I can maintain 6 atleast

[tropic summit]

[fathom rock]

Can beat whale in 5th but that's pointless

[glad meteor]

[upper grove]

Just make more enemies

[placid bloom]

just for 3 month like me

[upper grove]

This reshuffle so chill nobody is attacking me

[covert lintel]

Go 4th

[fathom rock]

Thanks to reshuffle can't

[covert lintel]

You should snipe before reshuffle

[glad glade]

@fathom rock may the best man win

[fathom rock]

I did, doesn't matter me died

[fathom rock]

You win bro, not that deep

4:1 win probably

[glad glade]

Rip srry bro. Still, I think you’ll at least win rounds 1 and 2

[umbral belfry]

egg*

[fathom rock]

It fair game I'm the one who didn't roll 15cs anis

[fathom rock]

Eggs crack

[umbral belfry]

and boy are you about to get cracked by a cat

[glad glade]

Tbf this is my last CA. If you know anything about BB’s shard, then you know how cooked I am

[umbral belfry]

I saw

[fathom rock]

Semi finals await you

[umbral belfry]

I will remember this ca for u ket

[covert lintel]

You're not alone
My anis is still 5cs
I still prioritize emi to become 25cs

[fathom rock]

Emi? Where can I get mine

[umbral belfry]

rakuen champ run in 50 years

[covert lintel]

Cook for me so i can get champ

[umbral belfry]

[quick lake]

Cook for me @umbral belfry

[fathom rock]

I have a very op cook from ma fren
||nayuta nayuta nayuta nayuta nayuta||
||nayuta nayuta nayuta nayuta nayuta||
||nayuta nayuta nayuta nayuta nayuta||
||nayuta nayuta nayuta nayuta nayuta||
||nayuta nayuta nayuta nayuta nayuta||

[umbral belfry]

[austere marsh]

Too many winds

[fathom rock]

Now we know the voice behind this discord acc

[cunning crown]

[tropic summit]

we can safely add this one to that list

||nayuta nayuta nayuta nayuta nayuta||

[gaunt pulsar]

i'm not sure this bursts even after 9 seconds

[fathom rock]

It can't even burst if it was 1rl

[gaunt pulsar]

also true

[ionic rose]

Can Biscuits Invul be dispelled by Rosanna?

[ionic rose]

They gonna survive for many many seconds

Thanks Rhea

[gaunt pulsar]

don't think there is a team of anything in which you could use multiple of the same nikke that would be un-kill able, 5 Tvesti in one team would go hard though if they can shoot before they dead

[ionic rose]

Still countered by Biscuit

Like i put 4 nikkes in my rookie arena team with nayuta and biscuit and people still have trouble beating it

[marble saddle]

@shell hazel

10% deficit so shouldnt be too much of an issue

[shell hazel]

no it's not in deficit so that's fine

[marble saddle]

yeah

[shell hazel]

the plan was to win 1/3 anyway - but do feel free to seek some other opinions on the suggested teams as well ofc 🙂

[marble saddle]

will do. i still need to stay alert for any changes he does near reset

[shell hazel]

I can't promise we'll win em haha

that's fine, I need to heat out for a bit anyway I doubt I'll be here until after reset

[marble saddle]

no worries. im no longer hotblooded about winning. i just want to learn more so i can build pvp teams by myself

[shell hazel]

yes being able to craft your own comps is a good thing to do ofc!

[quick lake]

Emilia would like at least 1 buffer

[austere marsh]

Is Scarlet Soda just a funny RNG Def team?

[marble saddle]

all the other buffers went to t1 and t3

[shell hazel]

last time I think we had RH

she could go here though you'll be slower than 2RL then

I don't think we used her on the other teams

[quick lake]

Yes indeed. OP funny rng team

[austere marsh]

Okay good I want funny rng team

[marble saddle]

@quick lake Left is his teams. right is the recc hippos gave

[shell hazel]

check the comps/my suggested teams but see if we can improve them maybe!

t3 is just lazy indom mirror with rapi but think it should win

[marble saddle]

it did win the first time today

[shell hazel]

slower version with biscuit should maintain the right speed think your one that lost was too fast

anyway, back in a bit let me know how it goes

[marble saddle]

this was the first atk i did today
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177116972593463316/1437313063320813590/20251110-0518-07.3228532.mp4?ex=6913725a&is=691220da&hm=0a01fb8449736b85e57bf6fc770350dedb005b8880a3c69edf93968fd09bde69&

[quick lake]

Kinda unorthodox but ig might work?

[marble saddle]

well the issue lies with my unbuilt pvp units since before today i didnt fight anyone who was knowlegeable about PVP

so now im having to fix everything i didnt do

[quick lake]

Jackal Rumani VestiTU Blanc Trina
Noah Centi Liberalio RH THelm

should win most/all teams imo

[marble saddle]

i dont have Vesti or lib built yet so thats a disadvantage

[quick lake]

I recently stopped running scar ironically

[swift mango]

Why win 1/3

[swift mango]

Can use Crown to buff in this team. In place of rapu

The problem is their slow team, could block your emi, so just replace Anis with crown instead to slower your Emi. Noise stunned Rapu would still burst.

[quick lake]

T1: Noah Biscuit Cindy THelm Rumani
T2: Jackal Scar Trina Centi lapT
T3: Skip

thats what I would run

[onyx scaffold]

I think YUU will win

[marble saddle]

using crown instead of rapunzel increases the deficit to 12% tho

[swift mango]

Anything less than 15.4% is equal zero. But read the rest of my comment

[onyx scaffold]

done with CN raid
no snow white
no laplace treasure

[marble saddle]

well removing anis does reduce the deficit to negligible amount. but hey we werent expecting to win on team 2 anyway

ive done as you suggested. and removed anis to crown

[swift mango]

Check pin for deficit chart. It's different from Campaign. I said it when you first start questioning and you said you know.... Guess we misunderstood lots of things.

[marble saddle]

no i understand that so long as im not 15% deficit i wont suffer from penalty

im just wondering how exactly will team 2 go now that my burst gen is even slower

ok nevermind. its become higher instead

[tropic summit]

just took the feedback thingie for surfance content, damn I had to censor some of my words

the whole thing reminded me how much i disliked it

[worthy knoll]

There is survey now? Time to enter some profanities

[tropic summit]

i did, plenty

i'm so pissed at them releasing half-assed content

even more so when it's blatant they're just being as cheap as possible

[worthy knoll]

The walking from base to Sector 4 pissed me off