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in fact i should try feeding some of them to my chatGPT and see if it finds patterns
I mean swapping Jackal and Siren position. You already have them in your team. I WASN'T making new team.
I wanted to share that's it, I will swap the position then
I shared my units because someone told me so that I grab your attentions
I was beating 40 level higher whale yesterday with this. No Moran on their team though. 
@covert lintel
le slow cindy
silly whel not punishing you with moran teams or heavy sustain teams 
Dude probably doesn't have Moran invested.
good thing that whels don't know that slow tanky teams are the bane of underdog pushers
Nah 40 level isn't enough to CP gap me, not with his investment. I should be fine at 60 level as well.

I did lose yesterday when testing ada.
oh you were trying indom ada?
if she actually works like someone was saying yesterday and that she can actually 1hitko moran i might need her down the line

were you at deficit though
His Moran is max doll. I gapped him by 30 level. There was no deficit at least. 
Nah
interesting dmg output, SR15 core4 moran at least
She doesn't get stuck on biscuit Noah taunt either.
Okay keep sending the losing one.
nice blanc buff there 
the day they fix this sh*t is also far away
resolve heal but god forbid resolve indom
The amount of times I have lost becuase of that

oh ye i see 
oh you want to see the weird af defense I cooked to try and counter cp gapping whale?
One frame too late. 
That one which won I added quantum to ada as well.
is that even possible? imagine winning def 
I am trying
I was considering switch lib emilia spots but its not 100% if he throws splash at that team or not
Because sbs team is also splash bait
Although lib would even die to rapi splash so maybe I at least put lap in p2
it's a good try but they'll win at least 2 out of deficit
Thats the thing, the jackal team has been winning at deficit lmao
Bro probably has some uninvested nikke but I have no one else to test team on that would stat gapping me at this time. 
ada 1 tapping anything 
I need help though fixing my cp on my pvp units when I build up more rocks though 
if you're trying to make it easier to fight against deficit, you need to throw rocks at your cores and utilities
treasured units especially as they're naturally higher
drakeT helmT laplaceT in particular
yeah they all core 7
after that it's noah biscuit and batteries
probably fished for blue/black lines
if you're fishing for blue lines, you refresh until you find one then lock that one and repeat
k
don't bother locking high tier as it costs more to refresh everytime
The whale was so generous that he even put out his SG Rosa for me to test on. Sorry that I said he had zero testing value at the first day of the season. 
LOL
he's getting desperate to shake you away
wew there you go
I jsut got a bllack cs line on lib
one step closer for you to test 15%CS lib 
two black cs lines in 1 day
yeah my lib has 1 back line
I legit would have 2RL emilia if these two were on her
ok so thats a perma lock
goodbye rocks
Scar siren jackals is 2 rl ? In app it says it's 3 rl
what are the other two units on the team
also depending what you are running into jackal feed can make it 2RL
multiple SMG/MG/SG units
Trina and Drake treasure or Laplace treasure
Ok yeah jackal feed plus scar s2 makes it 2RL
Better than black line CS on siren
scar s2 is a guaranteed 3% gen and jackal feed even against like all RL is about 7% feed

Which jackal feed can be more if its not all RL
Of course you wont get the feed though like that if rosanna is around
true
I got like 70 sync lvl over someone but he still beats me, my defense is like 3 teams 2 rl
is he like the only one attacking you?
Sounds like you need to overload the units on the teams though
Probably because your nikke not invested enough. Auto 3 time could probably have gotten you better result
Yeah just cp gap him
If I use a team with all my strongest cp nikke can he still beat it with deficit ?
No its very hard to do that
depends how big the deficit is
You're skill issued
Like 20%
Not at 35%+ deficit, no.
I won't justify 70 level gap
hmmm its possible but its going to hurt him
I'm f2p, he got core investment
You have 70 sync gap
Hold on, context, whats your sync level
674
See
The defense should not be getting broken really
That does not matter
I'll give you some strong cp gap teams
So I just used all strongest nikke ?
Yes pls
is it even possible for f2p to be 674?
Day 1, Probably yes.
I pushed campaign and do 2 times wipeout daily
but they call it visual bug lol
Nero moran helm drakeT SG
jackal blanc biscuit vestiTU laplace
third team can either be your highest leveled units or mihara nayuta siren SG cindy
That helm team at deficit is impossible
So he has to move on to the other two
My Nero moran is bricked tho, no deficit anymore if I run these 2
damn, moran at deficit is so hard to get through
its like auto win
Ok I'll invest in her, skill level recommendation ? And ol lines ?
You can get away without nero I suppose
I really want to see Libby action more. Anyone can show?
@eager mountain
Moran just need the gear ol, lines dont matter, her skill do matter though
4/7/10 for skills
or 4/7/7
10 if you are feeling extra spicy
For a nero replacement I guess your next highest b2?
SG can be Dorothy in Moran team ?
You could try it, I actually dont know what her sg weapon damage is like compared to like drake, noir, B.soda or viper
Because its just the sg weapon damage you care about
Ok it should be ok
Well hes also replacing nero though
noah better
yeah true, noah at deficit
If anyone see Libby action in CA please record the match thank you. I would post if I saw one too.
then noah dorothy

it is a waste to run dorothy and ruin 2RL
But yeah moran basically can solo an entire enemy team at deficit
bsoda better
I used her for cp gap
Not 2 buff Vesti. 
why cp gap when that team is actually hard to counter already
Just to be extra safe cause he always find a way to beat me even with 70 lvl sync diff
Right but whats the cp diff between adding like noir or B.soda instead of doro
Don't know but My Dorothy is super invested for union raid that's why
oh try it then
If he somehow beats it then just try a better gen sg there
Also you are basically building a defense around this 1 guy, so if hes the only actual threat to you, thats fine. If doing this makes you a target for people that are closer to you in cp then its going to get weird
It's fine I just want to secure 4 th place for CA, he is the only one attacking me
You'll lose if he uses moran
Cause he get a stack def from noah then builds up def until his dmg taken became 1
Def doesn't affect true dmg though. 
I carved and did 186 pulls. Should I just do 17 more for 10 refund? 
yes
Yes
How nice it would've been to get Liberalio
At least the banner gave me another RRH
use the magic formula maybe your odds will improve
Is the magic formula ๐ณ
I mean I did 180 and no Jill. But 186 and 2 banner 1%. Game is broken. 
magic formula is to exit to character banner screen and click pull when the character starts burst animaion
+
=

Did you get both Pilgrim in 20 pulls? 
nayuta was 10 pull for first copy liberiano took a lot
how much is alot? 
700 pulls for core 4 i think?
That's not a lot at all. 
post fb snipe too niche, regular snipe takes 3sr setup against neutral elem and demands csโฆ is a good 3rl battery but not necessarily needed, also good battery for high ca 3sr/emiโฆ and ofc nuking non Noah/indom/bayโฆ but ye no fancy cook yet 
now u know my prefered weapon class
smg hater
3 of them aren't even SmG
smg and ar are essentially the same thing for this game but with slight diff....
I mean the videos.

u gonna explain me the smg symbol then
nothings interesting or new, not enough to do what i wanted, if theres something interesting id already post it here
Bro pull without using her. 
not smg
why i clear random recollection event with sr
takes forever
my bad though, D+K the vitamin I took every day was SMG. Mistook them for DKW.

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the formula has been perfected
So the caskets were Isabel and Harran? 
Not very sure but did they died?
I'm ready to murder the bracket 
you only use her here for burst gen 
Arena reshuffle put 3 players now into my bracket who can all beat me, atleast two of them using more gems to push me down than finishing top 3 gives over 4th. Rip my guaranteed 3k gems 
thats just to see how long it takes rip jackel there and putting quiry b3 for no dmg
thus not doing enough
well, it's image, not video, can't see.

why u want a meaningness clip
there wont be stupid enough team like saying putting centi as the only b2 in p5 for lib to rip her
At this point I should just build my own Libby and test myself since no one bothered to give clip.
shes isnt fully built yet thx to dogwater rock roll but what clip do u want outside of failed attempt to snipe
specific nukes or what
anything against common CA-able teams.
freaking 300+ rocks and still only 11 lines
never lock line 1. 
its ofc 3->2->1
never lock line 2 too unless blue
most of my rock on Scarlet was wasted on locking line 2 to roll line 3. 
thats called bricking
Same as you. 
rng got my a*s but u sold those rocks urself by trying lock then reroll 3rd

I didn't need 1 specific line, could be any 3 out of 9 for that 3rd line. But it didn't work. 
for hundreds of rock.

3 out of 9 with a black line 2 is reasonable enough ig
it wasn't black. 
i hoped it better be for it to make better sense
anyway, I later on did few 1 rock roll and got good line 3+2 for that 1 rock on that piece. That's RNG working.

does this mean ill get my other 5 copies of lib in free pulls instead of burning 1000 tixs
That's why I never locked line 2 again when minmaxing 12 lines, unless blue.
nah, that mean I will get MLB nayuta from free pulls.

i fixed the low dmg problem
fix the low ammo on Vesti problem too.
2 ammo line? 
That's not very good. But 2 lines I would have sent you doro bomb
Should i reroll atk for max ammo?
How much ammo you have?
if u have 10+ just toss in a bastion
16
oh def not reroll
it's good enough.
you don't need more than 20 in arena
i wanna roll it to 20
exactly 20 is optimal
ye
16 is good enough.
i have to fix the sbs i bricked yesterday
I could use max ammo to 20 but I'm fine with 18 and tempering, 
This team in particular, equip Resilience and it would help with fast reload thanks to Privaty
@umbral belfry 
Also c7 lib spotted 
Yeah previously i used resilience, but now i didn't because i forgot
It's insane, I got defender position and my enemy till top 16 have P5 Jackal against my SG 
this is actually 19 ammo.
get 2*74% and you have 20 ammo
Blue stat
p5 jackal? That's easy win at least when they beat me. 
Will my priv team win against scar?
probably no.
if it's glass cannon Scarlet you have a chance.
Hope your Privaty could solo their p4+5
Oh shit, rapu, gg
It will be like this
Stun each other
I wish I had rapu too to counter rosa
Ggs, you must now become my goddess of victory 
I am numba one

I won?
There is a different, Scar burst would wipe your ass.
only 1 Privaty indomed survive

I hope rapun burst first then his trina dead
That way will reduce his scar dmg

Noir confirmed stronger than scarlet in canon
If rapu burst and stun then his trina won't die. Your balnc won't even burst. As his team is 2rl.
Alright thats just unlucky
Dang
Can i become 2rl from scar and noir feed?
can, but he is also 2rl
Nwar believers up pretty big today
At least i might still burst with blanc
Then hope linked manipulation work

rapu b1 stun whole team before your blanc click then scarlet slash and wipe whole team. Pray his rapu doesn't stun or you have enough CS so blanc burst before their rapu.
or you just wipe their team with normal attack
I AM VERY SORRY ELKAYJAE! ๐ @rich ledge
Didn't you see my emi and vesti have similar cs
Could you give me your data (image) of the season 1+2 CA you saved? I asked before but you didn't reply. 
The 2 final are enough
Sorry I was afk from discord for 2 weeks
doesn't really matter, what matter is theirs
Season 2
If 20%+ cs isn't enough then how many cs is it to escape redflag like that
I am out early this time, lost these 3 teams
Next time you can send me a DM
damn
Congrats @hollow lagoon and @shell hazel. Let me know if some of you wins CA, I won't be following it to preserve my mental health 
W ElKayJae, good game, good fight. TBH it was a close fight, we had almost mirror teams
Nice TU.


Oo u are here
Meh I changed my SG to have Poli and it's not as good as with Anne?
I thought I would win in team 1,2 and 4, but it turn out very different, winning team 3,4 and 5 instead
Nah its as predicted I knew vesti > scarlet teams
It happened for both urs and mine
Yup, hihi Elkayjae โฅ. Regardless its a brutal CA for both of us, if any of us win we would be meeting the previous winner in Top 32.
Nope bro, my team RL is slightly faster than your vesti, the problem is that my scarlet dont have enough damage to finish your Tvesti
Because it's noise and jackal linked
He won previous CA @swift mango
I mean the bots. 
Yup, but I have jackal link too, also tbh my scarlet still could increase in her atk just that I didnt max her OL gear yet
@nimble swan gah u got cp gapped
My ros lost to scarjack
My theory didn't work
Cp gapped? 
HAHAHAHAAH SPECIAL TREATMENT TO THE PREVIOUS WINNER, nobody can win him so the system gave him all BOTs, hahahahaha
I think this guy lurking at this discord. Or the guy who built team for him lurk at it. 
So is Anne better or Poli? Lol
or just coincidence 
Your group win rate is same for the 3 of you, the top guy move on cuz higher cp
Why am I the top
because overall u won the most win
Because you don't want to be the bottom.
Oh wait no, lowest cp guy move on?
Oh so I had the most round wins?
I COOKED with the doro gf nikke
I beat the guy who finished before me, but I got 4-1d by first guy. 2nd guy only finished before me because he had better win/lose ratio
Yes, u have the most win and least lost
Yeah
What's the analysis for SG Anne vs SG Poli?
In this case it was Soda wipe winning against backshot SG in a mirror match.
Why is rosanna ran in sg
To kill link and gain burst gen.
Overall you had the best win lose ratio compared individually with all
Because mine is on def that's why lost?
es
Welp bro, hard to draw a decisive conclusion, because the position is different. My guess is Anne > Poli
Guess its bc I made every team 2rl-3rl
Nah, some of these dudes have slow trams
I laughed hard at what rh said
It's so perfect with the scene she's dying
At least now it shows that nayuta in slow cindy is good also
f2p
You lost due to 2 reasons.
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Your SG was backshot so didn't kill their soda.
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Your Rossana wasn't able to one shot their Soda. And probably not dispell too.
I defeated the Chinese player "yoyo" who eventually become the Top 4, but I lose to the 3rd player. Who knows, I may had become Top 4 or 2 in previous CA... CA is brutal. @rich ledge @quartz rover
W observation
That's a bot surely
Yup, it is a bot
How she looking for pvp ๐
If im not wrong, elkayjae and I were put into the 5th SEA CA group which is the newest group so there are some empty slot which Nikke put in the bots to make up for it
I figured the 5th was deleted. I was just moved up to 3. You guys stayed 4th.
That's weird tho on no CP deficit a Rosanna should be able to kill? With 40% attack
You could check the video.
Yea the video doesn't show why Rosanna can't wipe
Unga bunga nuke dmg
also gotta fight my fellow pie so early 
Pie on pie violence 
your rosanna 71010? 40% atk from OL? How is his research and LB comparing to yours?
rigged game
Wait let me upload my video first so I can show everyone the whole fight, I got some questions too
His research should be lower since I am 40 syncs higher
maybe his Soda also max doll and high LB? Tempring as well. And you didn't crit.
Lol the soda
look at cup and my teams too 
weird.
Did you tempering on ur SG team?
Why, whats with my soda?
Rosanna should have normally killed the soda but she wasn't able to
Alright guys, the video is fresh out from the Oven, enjoy~โฅ
Nikke Champion Arena Season 16 - 8 November 2025
Team 1 removed Rapunzel and added Maiden: Ice Rose
Team 1 removed Bay (Fav) and added Nayuta
Feels weird having people looking into my character so detailly, lol >_< but i know its all fair game.
I mean it's good to analyse the results so we can improve
3 mirror matches and same matchup for first two teams 
Okay so my first question would be, for the team 1 match up, I should be able to win Elkayjae if my Scarlet had just a little more attack right? @swift mango
Second question, any input or opinion for team 2? Both looks similar, my Mihara BC didnt die, I remove blanc, and opponent had Nayuta, in the end its down to Cindy vs Cindy. @swift mango
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Now that I check the video.... I guess low level research make things tankier huh.
Well. Bro has changed teams again. 
Your rosanna got dispelled, probably includes OL atk buffs
How can you see that
Hmm that makes sense maybe I looked at his Rosanna it wasn't able to wipe my chars as well
So in a SG SG mirror the Rosanna can't wipe anything
Noise+Noah+Cindy+HelmT+Centi against Scar
Rumani+Rapipi+Blanc+biscuits+Cindy on Cindy.
RRH???
Rapipi is for Rapi Red Hood?
Check last Season CA winner, how many CA winners equal to how many CA brackets
Yeah. Just any MG with high CP
May I know what is your take on Liberalio in CA? @swift mango @rich ledge
Spa def pls 
I put her there cos I don't have laplaceT lol
I would have more similar to your teams if I have laplaceT
@umbral crown there's always too many chinnits in our CA
Good wipe, Good gen. I could use her to make Rosa SR instead of Rosa SG.
That palad guy in my bracket qualifies by sheer gemming lmao how he out of league
Yup, I've see it too and confirmed both of our Rosanna couldnt burst kill any character
you typed cindy on 2 teams
I see, I tried to look for Liberalio's burst gen but couldnt find. Keripo was very sneaky, he only updated his page right after the CA started.
Hmm then it will be Rosa SR that also has anne to revive lib
Swap first cindy with Crown, Xmaiden or SBS is fine.
t1 skip
noah biscuit cindy helmt rumani
jackal vestiTU laplaceT blanc centi
dont have vesti
But liberalio burst is delayed will be blocked by Noah and blanc alot
Yeah I notice people are putting Liberalio with Siren SBS and Rosa plus 1 more
how a totally f2p like you don't have vestiTU
follow blood's build then
SBS is bad team tbh. Only good for Campaign
do your own test in rookie, that's what i did haha
Haha might not have suitable people for testing
1 more img to this
better be MG that's not Defender , so no crown.
nothing note worthy in here
I just middleman I didn't even check 
Rosanna can dispell OL lines?
@tropic summit yesterday comps didnt work, woke up at diamond 2 
no
this concealment status definitely got dispelled but im not a pvp expert
maybe the 1st buff from killing heir Noir so fast too.
This could be dispelled
sadly
I'm not sure if Rossana could be target for the dispell. Thought?
@worthy knoll when you don't know.

But this is probably what happened
nice find
you're either getting gapped or they know what they doing
that's a bit peculiar on upper diamond tho, it's likely you're just getting gapped
check your invest against theirs and see if you're in average in deficit
Bwos newbie here ๐ Just unlocked SP Arena. Iโm not really an arena guy, but Iโd like to do decently here. Can anyone help me figure out which 3 teams I can run right now?
go triple 2RL and see how it does
they're all on natural so you don't need CS%
thankfully provided by liberalio
is it even worth to try and roll for a 4th ele line on vesti
i wouldn't
considering your CP thirsty matchups keep that line
Thats what I was thinking yeah
we are all around 2m cp teams
not even 15% diff
then you've decent pvpers in that bracket
the teams you've been given were fairly good ones
(even previous to mine)
keep trying different rotations until one works imo
i have a bit of doubts about nayuta one, i just grinded teams with her without issue
unlucky sir 
fake rapun 
I respect him for investing in rapunzel tho
we're in same group so we can't both get to the end anyway, I don't think I'm winning this in general. too much science
C3 and SR doll
i'll join you soon
got 3 teams countered 
SGs into biscuit locked
Scarlet into nero/moran
liber 2.5RL into 2RL double buff scar
let's go 
Isn't the best way to cp pad is to have a lot of ED?
Does helm burst bypass biscuit?
no
ED?
ah ye it scales better for CP
atk% and ED
then again a black line will scale better than 20%+ ele
so then im f* on sp defense?
or were i can look for other comps? i think the mihara/nayuta is my weakest one
i have no idea why everyone put biscuit in team 3 where my SG team is
realistically, if your def wins it's because the attacker is making a mistake
your objective isn't making an unbeatable defense, but a tricky or one that has very limited solutions
to further increase difficulty, high CS% and little feed is suggested
you can take ideas from these, prefer 2RL and 2.5RL, don't even bother 3RL
the highest win ratio so far is from vestiTU teams, be it 2RL or 2.5RL, the indom one is especially expensive to solve or requires a mirror slower indom
following that it's teams with rosanna, stun or stall
Can you tell me wut happened here?
noise and nayuta are not defenders
the only eligbile units in there that can get a biscuit stack are cindy and centi
But noise shouldnt have taunted helm right shoulda targeted cindy?
Like my cindy has highest atk
Your noise has a lot of atk compared to other
check atk% OLs
I only have 2
her sum of the atk% stats gets her targetted by helmT
Ok i see the 8% atk on one ol fk me
I forget, is the left side of CA attacker or defender
Left atk, right def
left/top is attacker
kk thanks
Help with bets?
I remember we said DPX follows bilibili (???), but idk
It's SPA group 2, if that helps
also my opponent is a CA winner
im somewhat doubtful of Xmaiden being the burster for t2
should i not put Thelm on Xmaidens spot?
xmaiden is fine against scar team
will her burst dmg be enough?
my xmaiden is lb0
should be fine they have no def
kk.
just fyi their scar team has libby
will that change anything?
it's why I had biscuit on the scar comp I sent you earlier
P1 p2 p5 win
P3 p4 lose
And you might lose p5 if your team doesn't have enough firepower to crush moran nero
rumani and biscuit
this is their current def now
So it depends on your luck
I probably will since CA is more squishy
snipers on def hit p1
kk. letting it rip then
I sent you 3 teams earlier, one of which was mostly the one you have for the blanc team
also thats interesting, I think I might win p4 no?
yeah i saw. the thing is my PVP knowlege isnt that good which is why im here trying to learn which teams counter which
No, rosa atker usually dies before burst
@shell hazel also i do not have vesti so your suggested t1 isnt applicable to me yet
Damn alright.
my t3 will beat the scar team if your bay is OK
you ran a similar one for the jackal/scar to beat the indom earlier, assuming it's similar it should still win
It's fine. If you need more CP could replace Centi. Since this is much more than 2rl.
i havent used Bay yet so id have to see if mine is any good.
Sr15 10/10/10
any specific OL stats?
nah my CP is higher than his so no issues on CP here
ok ill take a look
so you can't stun blanc with siren anymore
You may get them into deficit too. Like scarlet team if you replace Anis.
we only have like 20 levels between us so i dont think i can cp gap him
Kinda used to it
Haha at least they should check who has won more CA before
I'll just vote the one with more medals if I don't wanna check their teams
Ada is weak against 3rl Noah+Biscuit
lol he changed his teams positions again
Many people hate you and want you lose
Nah they vote for the one with higher research. Plus I could have my team hard countered as well.
Happened more than I could remember
Plague is more dangerous than hannibal
Wrong one
@shell hazel what cube on her?
Nah bro looks like he got my team countered.... I should have shuffle my team before enter. 
The skill I lack. Good at shuffle teams.
just any tbh
reasonable level cube
maxed out gear is too much for me to do yet ๐
lvl 6 tempering it is
Since ive moved rumani for his team 2 what should i use for his team 3?
Uuuh bump again? Also got Scarlet now
However I arrange slow cindy they always lose
Losing against that nayuta sg was the last straw
Iโm scrapping that team for good
LapT not exist 
U scrapping slow Cindy?
I think thatโs my highest win rate team
Man, however I arrange them they lose to rag tag teams even
Uhm guys, can Nayuta use charge speed? 
Says fixed charge speed to 1.8

i'll check again soon ๐
she can use cs for CP pad 
busy in something else atm
I canโt run rumani p1 and blanc p2 cuz my c6 blanc has too much hp and wonโt activate biscuit s2
Liberalio also fixed it at 1s with her s2


Now i tried blanc p1 , cindy p2 and rumani p5 to defend against sg, and got wiped by a shit nayuta team

I think the 1.5 is ol able the 1 might not be
Since 1.5 is just the base fire rate of her weapon
my current team
@eager mountain lib on anchor buff
seems to bypass cover
anyone have a counter for this team ? i try the same team but it not work i guess CP diff
Rail vs Asia
do you've rosanna?
yes i do had her
7/10/10 atk 20-40% and a bit of ele?
Let me check things went for me
it needed for her skill?
that's the recommend build
w/e run this
you're on the left
so intend of vesti i should replace her with rosana?
surprising outcome on this one
@swift mango
no, you should run what i provided in that sceenshot, in that order
noah biscuit vestiTU helmt jackal
Weird, Cindy should have trigger biscuit here but she didn't. 
does stun from siren good to counter i try replace vesti since my vesti haven't full build
you can't run the team i gave you?
you'll be stunning noise but they burst with jackal instead
to stun noah you need to put siren in p2
but that assumes enemy doesn't run noise taunt priority
missing the vesti in team my vesti haven't build up
oh oke
let hope siren stun Noah
she ded before she could activate? 
But dmg and die at same time should trigger biscuit.
i always found that very inconsistant, it's the same when running emi nuke against multiple defenders and biscuit
i hate resetting Arena they keep adding more whale more challenging is good but sometime it so unwinable
If the defender died ofc it won't trigger. But it trigger if biscuit died and defender not. That's why Emi lose to biscuit so often
@swift mango four times in a row, three of them i got stopped at the league stage
no emi no party
so the calculation is like:
- receive dmg
- if dmg kicks hp below threshold, trigger biscuit stack
- calculate death
meaning even if biscuit dies, the calculation for the procc takes precedence?
seems kinda iffy
Evil
oldschool indom scarlet cuz i've no clue what to run anymore in CA since i always end up countered
matter of fact next match i probably exit already 
But it was like that before and not now...
Well, I don't even use Anis this season.
It's just luck
My luck is bad keep getting hard counter at top 64 though
against no DR lib is lethal even on cindy, bypasses decoy
Try Cindy with Noise. 
And tempering
rail i saw something funny today

no longer lethal, although very close to because i don't have maxed lib, helmT was full HP but on moran and bay DR
i saw someone 's cindy blanc mihara rumani team get one shot by liberalio 100-0 with no biscuit procs except for the p1 defender
i mean look at that helm HP 
can confirm lib clears slow cindy

And this is your Libby team? 
No wonder you keep losing early even with better luck than mine. 
i laughed my ass off at that
that's the throaway team

good luck to u. i was once only voted 5% against kitsune, but i still won 
i don't have enough to make 5 actual teams because i don't invest in CA @swift mango
jellyfish is a reliable way to kill that team
i think it will work 100% of the time
lib might be worth it situationally
the fact it can bypass cover and be lethal if buffed is interesting
I kinda got hard countered on 2 team. 
my reverse no u for stall v slow cindy now 
i mean the alternative was auto team what do you mean 
at least i get to test lib without even having to run rookie or sp
yeah, same here. and somehow, by some miracle, i still won 
can jackal noah combo compensate for a cp deficit bigger than 30% ?
after 24% you're generally dead
@swift mango did you run lib anywhere this CA?

Never once rolled or listed Soda and shes about to be my first ever core +7 
tankiest soda in your bracket


hacks
reported
there is definitely some interesting matches for the science in my initial set - uploading them
the best finding i've so far is that lib can be direct counter to any stall that doesn't involve HP stacking
my vesti 2RL beat 2 other vesti variants
weren't you going for pve main
bay version dies to this
jackal version didn't help this win
Nah my Vesti carriered all the way. 
Same fire Ele too
cuz your alice is ๐งฑ
my alice outdamages vesti
my alice is def bricked but will still need for fire weak raids
I'm not playing on PC so not able to fast click and aim at same time.
Alice mainly important for tetra tower
yeah reset alice

i forgot you're mobile gamur on phone
playing alice on this is ๐งฑ afterall
that vesti musta been peepee poopoo to not kill p1 noah
noise taunted vesti in p3
i don't think hippo is running noah taunt priority

@tropic summit
are my teams good against his teams?
left his teams, right mine
Note ( hes moved his teams 1 down)
hard to say but my noise also taunted
so possible she taunts the nuke away from p1
well ironically taunting vesti in p3 means your entire team gets hit
the camera zooming about makes it hard to tell though
it's actually self destructive
I think her normal hits only splash either side?
p2 p3 p4 yeah
her nuke is covered as long as noise b1 and noah b2
at that point it doesn't matter anymore
noah avoided essentially xmaiden partially and vesti barrage
I have recordings can see how the matches went but so far 3 matches 3 wins and 2 were against vesti comps
yeah but it loses to indom variant anyway ๐
and if they have that they don't have blanc on slow cindy or another team
nayuta slow cindy should lose to indom slow cindy
so to win that they make the slow cindy weaker
timestamp for 1st vesti match: https://youtu.be/s58dvcX4tRE?si=OHkHU7Ed5c_wnzAH&t=46
T1 what is blanc purpose there? you expect noah to die? weird choice
T2 scar mirror? that's just gambling
T3 i dunno what you trying
what i can say is, i wouldn't run any of those 
timestamp for 2nd vesti match: https://youtu.be/qbF9NgI-qDs?si=BCHHHwf6QOziqPHR&t=32
there's too many variables you're taking when you could just focus on 2 hard counters
hes moved his teams 1 down
i.e his team 1 is team 2 now
team 2 is team 3 now
yeah I said I'd take a look was just in the middle of something else and then uploading my matches can check in a mo
no issues
the scar is easy to counter, I'd love to vesti TU the cindy but as we lack that then we need something else
As expected
run these, you're on the left
This game hate me. I haven't gotten 3rd initial OL after 8 OL in a round. 

looks good run that and see zlaw
record if possible
the scar should be reliable, I think cindy will get stuck trying to kill your noah
they lack biscuit there so RH will just ST nuke stuff
as expected 
sasuga Yonexxi ๐
you should watch some of my matches rail if you get a min - team 1 is SG + Nayuta edition
team 3 is nero moran with Lib
I lost one because I put moran b1 and siren stunned her ๐
a classic
next match we have this
ballsy choice of placement
right ๐
you could be in trouble from their dot though
we tested this before but rapunzel alone doesn't cover for the dot and 10s of indom
going with this
they won't get to indom I think
ye looks good
pretty sure this beats slow cindy per Hime thing, but it depends if vesti speeds up
they're 3RL-3.5RL
you're not killing them all before that time frame, mihara dies to helm
meaning they get DoT and indom going
your main issue gonna be surviving the DoT for 10s
let's ๐ฟ it anyway
and whatever is left of vesti
half the fun of CA is just seeing how the teams do I don't really care that much if I win
sending some experimental stuff is interesting though
what order did you use? I've tried a few and this is my fav so far
I dislike mihara on the end as it can lose to SGs on def
it was similar, blanc, cindy, biscuit, mihara, rumani
i actually don't understand how i died
but i can post the vid
I had an issue where my biscuit had more atk than mihara so she'd get sniped
biscuit dead means can lose from then
@shell hazel@tropic summit i think bro is in this channel.
my mihara is higher atk that's not an issue for me fortunately
wow looking forward to that
he's swapped his teams like 4 times 
too bad im a patient Mfer
let's see 
@shell hazel@tropic summit
wow the nayuta damage just rained in lol
wasn't your biscuit getting sniped at all
what does the damage report on that look like?
personally perfect lib roll for me would probably be:
4 x ele
4 x atk
3 x cs
1 x ammo
but that may change I'm just waiting for now
cs a lot better than ammo for sure
So as i see it blanc got 5s of invul and when next 5s shouldโve been awarded to someone bisc was already dead
Lost to Nayuta*
Yup
For Arena she definitely could use CS more than ATK, which she has tons already. Ele also not needed in Arena. 
yeah sg does not splash either so cindy not getting anything
apparently less frightening without a billion CP 
yeah really lost to all 3 of us ๐
yeah I build mine so she works in both
even PvP main
Define "too strong"? 
She ain't doing much in Campaign. 
raids
you may be in sweaty SEA but I'm not lol
if there is wind equivalent of MC
waiting for it to buffer, popcorn in hands
๐ฟ
My Cindy only 3 Ele. 
And 3 atk
I mean you can build Cinderella with only Atk and crit, but who gonna do that
even PvP main won't do that
she is too strong
to be wasted on PvP only
@marble saddle not even close, all according to keikau
||removes sweat||
I kind of dislike SBS here tbh
yeah instant nuker next time shall we 
The pvp main that need to CP pad and doesn't have tons of rock to fix Cindy. 
SBS ramp up is kind of slow

btw I was thinking if we can get quick enough. moran + trina the scar
or even nayuta is possible for p1 def
well if someone really build crit only Cinderella, they are special cookie 
she's supposed to be DPS, she's like "bro give me at least 2 secon- jesus le christ he's nuking"
I hope they win CA after bricking their elec PvE 
because otherwise there was no payoff
Yeah hope he won. 
Cough cough
well 4 stk 4 ele 3 crit 1 ammo is not the same as 4 atk 4 crit rate 4 crit dmg
Cindy definitely could use 2 ammo. 3 is a bit much. 
I mean crit Cinderella like actually full crit build
prydwen tier list issues intensifies
meanwhile me 
this for scar may be better?
moran/trina acting like pseudo-biscuit
unsure who would jackal link here
moran linked would be op
Tbh it's not that hard for me to roll 4th AtK and 4th ele on Cindy now. Just need to reroll 2 line 1. 
I missed that roll like 8 times in a row recently, extremely high number of rocks and locks gone
my Lib is impossible to reroll, all my lines I need to reroll are line 2/3 
so I gave up
i'm just going to gun for a good starting line 3 on every piece, I think she's worth investing extra on
Me 10 time for Crit dmg on Scarlet and had to settled for Ele. Instead.

My Scarlet is 4 Crit 4 AtK 3 Ele 1 ammo now. Good enough for PvE. 
@nimble swan tenshi has indom ada 
yea i checked and he has interesting cooks overall

Poor bro died in advance last season tho
I do like that he does some diff stuff to everyone
could have put that blanc in p4
My slow Cindy ate an L I think I need to put Mihara at p1
like Noise Noah Vesti
you can do ok on 2.5 with blanc though
but maybe his Helm cs still make 2.5
Yeah this is better than my CA version because 2 buff for Ada. I would use this next CA if my Scarlet with HelmT lose today. 
p1 mihara not usually enough time to get her dots off
my Ada will never really be powerful enough no dupes
took me too many pulls to get even one copy
Jill took me 180 no copy
I like MLB
I synced up today 
for main dps
see? quicker than me ๐
How
worried about me catching up ๐
He already 521+ already much quicker than you.
why ppl not trusting me?
Finally a happy ending today. 
Sorry I didn't mean to quote you
I've got 100 more expensive levels to do ๐
let me work out how much cd/bd I need to catch you

14285 hours at 91 cd/hour (my current rate)
Dis man gonna catch me in a month 
or 595 days of cd
@eager mountain
Is this good? I'm newbie so Idk. 
i got her 4th ele yesterday, now she's 4 ele 4 atk, finally 
How tf
broken 
i spent like 100-150 rocks
Why do people just have better luck rolling shit than I do
it's okay, my gacha luck and rock luck always shit 
I gift my bro topyro a loss and a win for a net positive score
I have decent pull luck but my roll luck always bad
how's your new sp? i haven't asked yet i think
At least better than mine.
ON BOTH
even Lib which is my luckiest rock roll is still bricked with 4 ammo instead of 3 cs 1 ammo 
chaotic but less so for me. I landed in the same bracket as @oblique gyro
the guys at 3/4 are really scrappy
Because you also get ATk and ELE first
they can beat 5/6 lol

trust me bro
oh void is in our ca bracket if i'm not mistaken
can't believe that wurbarfx is somehow always there
I trust u bro
so yeah 5/6 seem mostly pve/cp pad and so they can lose to people with hundreds of K less cp and way less sync
I'm curious what teams they actually run but I can't see them ofc
the wheel
i knew hippos was the wheel all along
fellow wheel


but we just buy costumes
but a reminder I need to buy 595 days worth of cd to catch @hollow lagoon (who started after me) ๐

Maybe hard story will give me nuff resource to 535 something
tis a verily thing to do

but in reality yes most of my spend is on the skins and pulls, only some is helping my sync
A multitude of pulls was spend to reach maximum
even then I still only have 1 core max (helmT)
that is a common sight verily
I have multitudes of this verily
@shell hazel have u seen my magical formula?
I am unsure
My only core max is dkw 
And wait Alice, thanks to the free copies
verily
art thou sureยก? {
nope not even my alice lol
โ
๐ฐ

Because you didn't spend all guarantee on alice

I dunno even then
my dorothy is core max
nayuta?
nope
That's 7/11 copies already. +1 from newbie event. You only need to pull 3.
how art thou livin without c7 verily, tis clearly something no bueno
is anyone betting in SPA this time around post re-shuffle?
but fish dosnt say verily
(gonna bump my question again since I got
last time)
fish say awooooo
ok now say that again but this time try to make sense 

okay, i got rdx in my bracket for my spa betting
Idk if I should bet on them or try for the newbie

rdx?
aka: do i go for someone i already know, or try to give a chance for a name i haven't seen before
thats CA
spa betting?
You said CA would reshuffle today but it didn't. I said once every 10 season and it would be true. 
SORRY, DPX
eh I said it might lol ๐
i wanna do spa betting too, i like my odds
and isn't SPA special arena? the one in beta season
champion arena
my bad ๐

i see familiar names, but idk who half these people are now
At least I got someone familiar, but idk

there are multiple brackets and matches so not that much chance people have the same matches as you to bet on

