pvp-arena

[keen vapor]

He has Noah core max best shield

[tropic summit]

show le CP and tell me if vestiTU links with laplaceT in same team

[keen vapor]

Vesti no link

No attack

[tropic summit]

ok then lappy can be centi

[tropic summit]

show le CP

[keen vapor]

I'll die :deadge:

[tropic summit]

in range T2
deficit in T3

[keen vapor]

I'll die

[tropic summit]

1.109k but need 1.138k in T3

[gritty ridge]

Chat im cooked

[tropic summit]

go get them some OLs

[keen vapor]

Can't

[placid bloom]

I see Crown, Tove, Doro and Eve on team previews

I assume their teams are trash

[tropic summit]

[placid bloom]

2 Rapi too

[tropic summit]

indom RRH isn't necessarely bad though

i do agree on eve, doro and tove though

[placid bloom]

it's not but that assumes they are using it

[tropic summit]

noah biscuit rrh helmt flex is also decent, although clearly weaker to the vesti alternative

[placid bloom]

but that C7 guy is probably just SPA CP padder

[tropic summit]

for sure...

[radiant coral]

5-0 arteris. The fattest whale I have ever seen in SP

[tropic summit]

@hollow lagoon somebody beating you

how does your bracket look like? 3rd time champ incoming?

[covert lintel]

T3 miranda+ ft emi
T2 nuke with helm but with b1 smg/ar/mg

[keen vapor]

Miranda no overload also, Emi hasn't been doing nukes properly lately to that comp

[keen vapor]

Will try liter instead of Rouge

[slate falcon]

Thoughts?

[austere marsh]

Hello I seek guidance

[keen vapor]

Is fine, but Trina better with quantum than helm

Maybe it can slot Rapunzel instead of centi idk

[slate falcon]

Why not both?

[keen vapor]

We need your units

[slate falcon]

Centi is the sub for her, dont got her sadly

[keen vapor]

Always follow this instruction (1)

Taken from pinned messages@austere marsh

[keen vapor]

Rip

Moran Nero invested?

[slate falcon]

It’s not a currently built team just a future team

[tropic summit]

looks good but for CA you're wasting a clip RL for a team that is fine on 2.5RL

can use trina elsewhere

[austere marsh]

Oh, Rail and Hippo helped with my SpA already 🌸

[silk iris]

@tropic summit so i tried the indom sbs trying to beat the same dude but i lost

[slate falcon]

Who would recommend to replace her?

[slate falcon]

Cp gap?

[keen vapor]

@tropic summit @covert lintel Helm died

Tried Vesti Drake instead of RH, not enough DMG

[silk iris]

its within range cuz i beat him yesterday with a similar team

[austere marsh]

Just being a nerd and currently trying to beat some rookie team that I've been losing to for a couple months
Still trying the Blanc angle but Moran keeps standing. Would this work?

[slate falcon]

Oh, so they evolved

[silk iris]

probably LOL my supposed improved team shouldve beat him i think but i lost

[keen vapor]

The answer is always Siren or Soda, try Soda

[slate falcon]

Im feeling your pain currently because I’m in the same situation

[austere marsh]

Does it matter if she's not OL?
Ignore the cores

[slate falcon]

I think she prob want Ol but not invested for cp/hp, not sure though 🤔

[quick lake]

should be fine if no cp gap

[hollow lagoon]

I have literal minimum 3 people beating me

[slate falcon]

I love your profile pic, every time I see it I go “how cute” .

[tropic summit]

yes helm needs to die, you then get emi to nuke while noah stalls

noah should get 2 biscuit stacks and stall out vesti

what happend after helm died and noah cast shield?

[tropic summit]

did you record? would be nice to see the damage output

most importantly to confirm SBS did get indommed

[silk iris]

nopeee i was doing it on mobile since i thought i would win haha but both of my teams lost, his t3 had indom and destroyed my whole team. t2 i couldnt burst in time p1-4 died

[silk iris]

nah my sbs died too quick

[tropic summit]

kinda need to see the video for T3 because i can't see how SBS dies this

unless it's the iron code link and their 2 wind code hitting it hard

[covert lintel]

It should be like this if your miranda+ can be used

[tropic summit]

as for T2 we need to burst slower and let scarlet indom as i told you yesterday

[silk iris]

hmm oh wait he updated his team. it has sbs now

[placid bloom]

what if Nayuta is 4 Atk 4 ele and blasts your links + Centi before Blanc indom can apply

there is some delay for Blanc to apply

[tropic summit]

ye won't change a thing, try this approach next and record

we're forcing their T2 to promote to 2RL, we want scarlet to indom
as for T3, we removing your iron code weakness and adding fire code weakness, should reduce dmg intake from wind code units

sbs needs to have lower hp than drakeT

[silk iris]

hmm my moran isnt really built tho

[tropic summit]

doesn't matter there's biscuit

just ensure you're not in CP deficit and that SBS is indommed

[covert lintel]

That won't happen as she gave jackal so many feeds

[placid bloom]

hmm well it's 21% deficit, maybe just got killed through links from wind damage on Jackal

before indom could apply

[silk iris]

should i give drake quantum? she has more hp than sbs without vigor

[tropic summit]

only reasonable thing i can think of is heavy ele dmg on link

[tropic summit]

yep can do

[placid bloom]

it's 2x wind + LapT, the damage is actually fat

[covert lintel]

Yeah, there's a chance linked units dying

[tropic summit]

yep, at this point has to be that

[placid bloom]

3x wind

[tropic summit]

you're in deficit with drakeT?

[austere marsh]

I got the Noah stun too man

[tropic summit]

ye that's deficit, forget about it

[tropic summit]

vesti nuke is non lethal because they moran B1

[slate falcon]

Insta Nuke

[tropic summit]

hell i dunno if vesti nuke is lethal buffless to begin with

[austere marsh]

Okay so Scar over Vestk

[tropic summit]

ye but you need a trina in the equation

[placid bloom]

Vesti nuke delay too long, his Noah cast even after stun wore off

[tropic summit]

and if they moran b1 you're still non lethal

[austere marsh]

Frick

[silk iris]

hmm should i look for another opponent then?

[tropic summit]

ye this one is too far in CP

i thought you weren't in deficit, no wonder it didn't work

[austere marsh]

Okay scarlet soda Trina team

[placid bloom]

Scar Soda cannot kill through Moran B1

[tropic summit]

he can't siren either because moran will take away taunt

he has to deal with this the oldschool way

[austere marsh]

Moran seems to be evil

[placid bloom]

Blanc Vesti clears

[austere marsh]

My Blanc Vesti got cleared

[placid bloom]

[slate falcon]

[gritty ridge]

Wow, thats somewhat a real team

[tropic summit]

holy F moran diffed

[placid bloom]

this one?

[tropic summit]

[placid bloom]

that is not a correct Blanc Vesti team

[austere marsh]

No i was recommending that before hitting but the vid is the one

[gritty ridge]

Bro their poor moran

[tropic summit]

give vesti double buff

[covert lintel]

2rl vs 2rl

[austere marsh]

I shall use Rails knowledge to diff the Moran 🙏

[placid bloom]

you cannot put all 3 links in p1-3

[tropic summit]

yeah no that team still loses

[placid bloom]

you will take too much damage

[tropic summit]

we gotta double bufferoni

[placid bloom]

Blanc with Biscuit is safe in p3

[austere marsh]

Oh frick

[silk iris]

damn hes the easiest one to beat maybe i just yolo cuz thats the only dude anyway

[placid bloom]

she cannot die to Vesti rockets

[tropic summit]

unless

we throw a RH on double buff on it

oh

[tropic summit]

do you've s.anis and on burst lvl 9?

no nvm it's double taunt her rockets are both taunted

[austere marsh]

Si

Frick

[tropic summit]

unleash the liberalio

[austere marsh]

I

[swift mango]

[covert lintel]

My advice is don't put your atker in p1-p2 against deficit noah

[placid bloom]

oh wait you got solo'd by his Moran

[covert lintel]

I lost hard in previous spa because of that

[tropic summit]

the best part, it was a blanc debuffed moran

and it's on non deficit

[austere marsh]

Yesh non deficit

[tropic summit]

bro's moran is ultra stonks

[placid bloom]

well Moran basically has 2.5 HP bars

if you let her get all 3 heals

[tropic summit]

alternatively indom scarlet to punish moran? although how you kill the rest of the team...

[austere marsh]

At least I beat him in Special Arena

[tropic summit]

@swift mango how would you go beatin' this one

#pvp-arena message

[placid bloom]

indom Ada I think does it

[swift mango]

Vesti+Blanc+RH+HelmT+Jackal

[placid bloom]

Idk if anyone builds Ada though

[tropic summit]

le double buff vestiTU

[austere marsh]

Any necessary cubes

[tropic summit]

but won't blanc die in p2 against le vesti?

[placid bloom]

Blanc is gonna die

[swift mango]

Vesti need 16+ ammo

or at least 12

[placid bloom]

actually hold on, his p1-3 actually survive the Vesti shot

well maybe that's because Biscuit on Jackal

maybe dead without that

[tropic summit]

i dunno we've a lot of hope in blanc to live to 2RL B2

[placid bloom]

no I mean

[tropic summit]

[austere marsh]

Okay she has 18 ammo 🙏

[placid bloom]

hmm nah still doesn't work

[covert lintel]

Go for it

[tropic summit]

believe in the blood 4D chess

[swift mango]

well, Vesti+Blanc+RH+Jackal+Biscuit then.

[tropic summit]

is that even 2RL

[austere marsh]

I'm going

[placid bloom]

that doesn't look like 2RL

[tropic summit]

with 40%CS vestiTU it could be 2RL

the amount of copium in this...

[swift mango]

put the joke aside.

Just slow Cindy it.

Blanc+Rumani+Midhara/anyMg+Biscuit+Cindy

[placid bloom]

I think Blanc Ada is elegant solution

[swift mango]

[placid bloom]

but who build Ada

[tropic summit]

what would that change compared to vesti tho?

[swift mango]

Ada indom works, I can confirm

[placid bloom]

Ada 1st shot is gonna be taunted by Noah and land after Noah indom end

[tropic summit]

she outdamages indom vesti?

[placid bloom]

which also hit Vesti, which nukes links

so she one-shot Noah, Moran, + all 3 link at once

[tropic summit]

eh that'd be 🍿 to watch

[swift mango]

I just beat this exact team with Ada indom today, Just don't have the phone with the vid to upload.

[tropic summit]

go get the phone and share when you can

[placid bloom]

make sure Ada 0 cs though

because if she has cs her shot will land before Noah B2 end I think

[swift mango]

mine was 8%.

[covert lintel]

You can upload in pc

[placid bloom]

hmm maybe it's okay because B2 > B3 frame diff

[tropic summit]

he's a lazy ass

[austere marsh]

I have 1 attempt but two teams to pick from

[swift mango]

doesn't really matter much, tbh, she beat them with time to spare.

[placid bloom]

well she is still true dmg Rapi bomb even if her nuke miss

but her nuke is still strong

[swift mango]

1 true dmg shot every 2 second and every charge shot hit like a rock, My Ada is 101010 sr15 though.

[cunning crown]

@hollow lagoon they expect one of us in the wreckage brother

[slate falcon]

Thoughts?

[hollow lagoon]

u prov winnning dis

[covert lintel]

Good

[swift mango]

it's just rookie. another1h43 and you have 5 more attempts

[tropic summit]

just hope they don't have siren

[austere marsh]

@swift mango so try this? (My only other built MG are Crown RRH n Soda)

[placid bloom]

this team don't work without Mihara

[slate falcon]

Im praying, because that was my first thought when making this team

[austere marsh]

Ah, other path then

[swift mango]

should be fine tbh let him try

[cunning crown]

nonzero percent chance my scarlet underperforms and gets gibbed but who knows

[covert lintel]

Why do you always make Rosanna not burst

[cunning crown]

helm-off will be funny on replay

[hollow lagoon]

we'll see

[austere marsh]

I just followed the path he wrote

Results

[tropic summit]

cindy dead to nuke

[swift mango]

bruh

[tropic summit]

midhara dot would've lasted as long as rumani indommed

but i dunno if that alone would've done anything

[swift mango]

he didn't have midhara invested

[tropic summit]

ripperoni

[austere marsh]

I dont have her at all

[covert lintel]

Use rosanna variant instead

[slate falcon]

Is my positioning ok for this team?

[swift mango]

do you have Emi? A good ole Emi nuke would be fine too.

[tropic summit]

he's out of tries

[austere marsh]

I'm missing Emi Mihara n XMaiden they haunt me

[swift mango]

and that was unbuffed vesti...

[placid bloom]

Emi is a lot worse into Moran than Ada is I think

Ada can actually one-shot Moran, I don't think Emi can

[austere marsh]

I promise I treat my Cindy with love

[covert lintel]

Yeah if she can't one shot moran, she's doomed to fail

[lone sequoia]

need buffers but moran can heal back hitting emi

[swift mango]

Do you have Nayuta invested? Since you don't have midhara could go with

Rumani+Cindy+Biscuit+Nayuta+Flex,

Moran+Biscuit+Cindy+Nayuta+Emi could work too.

the goal is cindy nuke after Noah shield down. You lost because your Cindy couldn't survive. HelmT buffed Vesti,

[lone sequoia]

weapon change will change target to highest atk most of the time (2~3 target change)

moran weapon change can ignore rosanna S1

no vesti to kill enemy noah?

[placid bloom]

can't kill Noah in time

and post-invin can kill rest of the team but can't kill Moran

[swift mango]

Well, I use

Noah+Biscuit+Emi+RH+HelmT.

Vesti isn't survive Emi nuke thanks to ele. Afterward, the enemy team has no dealer.

So easy win

[placid bloom]

yeah if you have 3 dps alive to kill Moran it's okay

can try that

[lone sequoia]

blanc or noah?

just fill with more defenders+biscuit

[placid bloom]

I don't think that team can 2RL with Blanc RH Biscuit

wait it can just need 25% cs

[lone sequoia]

noah p2(?)

[swift mango]

what do you mean can't kill moran? Ada would just one shot moran just as well, half hp to 0 mean no heal.

[lone sequoia]

emi

[placid bloom]

no I mean he did Vesti Blanc

and he could not kill Moran

[swift mango]

Emi kill besti. Then moran do nothing.

[placid bloom]

got solo'd by Moran

[swift mango]

what can they do when their whole team stuck on Noah+Biscuit?

[lone sequoia]

i would like to test a stall against that team

[placid bloom]

that's why I said Ada better

but Emi can work too if you have enough OL

[swift mango]

Yeah, it's case by case. Like my Slow cindy beat similar team before but his couldn't

[lone sequoia]

DoT cindy?

[swift mango]

Just e cindy nuke after Noah down would wipe their team regardless of moran dr

[lone sequoia]

i mean, how it didn't work?

[swift mango]

moran could survive but she aint dueling Cindy

[swift mango]

because his Cindy died before burst. Watch his vudeo

[lone sequoia]

cindy p3, no?

[tropic summit]

quite curious to see this ada approach against that team

[austere marsh]

Had to grab some chips to soothe my defeat

[vapid lake]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/989931904692285470/1425106201854611497/bed1a763c233e72c88b131d0b544a8a9104349118.gif

[swift mango]

p5, so Rumanj and Balnc could survive but I guess

Blanc+X+Cindy+Biscuit+Rumani would" be better.

My bad

[swift mango]

ummm, like Nesso suggested, Rumani p5, Cindy p3 would probably be better

sorry I didn't realized

[austere marsh]

I had vigor on Cindy. Should I put tempered

[swift mango]

Well, Rumanj p5 so you put vigor or tempering on it. She b1 so would probably able to burst before she died from your video. Then Blanc woudl indom Cindy.

[austere marsh]

Understood 2 hours until we do battle

[swift mango]

Here, so long as tour rumanj as tanky as Cindy you should be fine.

[worn ridge]

Guys any teams to kill this guy?

[shell hazel]

@oblique gyro when you get a chance please can you link me what teams void and viper guy are running in SPA? thanks!

[shell hazel]

yes you need this team || 💳 ||

in all seriousness you can beat team 1 but you're in deficit on the other two

[glad meteor]

I’m guessing t1 wins, and t2/3 loses. Can try check cp for

Scalter/vesti blanc redhood centi jackal

But you need to check who’s jackal linked and who has lowest hp to target indom to dps unit

[shell hazel]

you'd need way too much cp for t3

[glad meteor]

He’s technically in range on t3. But moran tank sg

[shell hazel]

pve main it looks like all the pvp units don't have maxed dolls or even purples ones in some cases

probably why t3 has as much cp as it does where 1/2 kind of don't stack up

[glad meteor]

[shell hazel]

I mean look at team 1 we have rapu without even a doll on 😄

still t1 is the easiest

if vesti TU was strong then t2 or t3 would be doable

[patent sail]

Is absolute (eunhwaT, emmaT) good or cope?

[shell hazel]

for pvp? not really

[patent sail]

Yeah

[shell hazel]

just fun to run if you feel like it I wouldn't build for pvp

no good at all in defence team

[patent sail]

Bro i beat cindy team with them

Idk how

[keen vapor]

Is a team on CA at the very least

[patent sail]

Yeah attack

[shell hazel]

don't really see many people run it in CA

really if any 😄

[keen vapor]

Agent Eon does have respect

[shell hazel]

am sure it can win but then so can a bunch of pvp options

[patent sail]

I thought my vesti team will die really , but they melt Cindy team

Same cp there's no deficit

[shell hazel]

it's mostly as vesti doing the work there, it can just get abused if you run it on def

if you build for pve and they happen to work for pvp sometimes then fair enough, but otherwise I think it's not worth trying to specifically make them fit this role

[patent sail]

Yeah i was trying cuz they already built

I used them in previous SR

Eunwha burst hurt huh?

She wiped 2 units

[onyx scaffold]

Because not many ppl can afford investing in them

[gaunt pulsar]

quite popular at sync ~280 CA, sweeping everyone to the champ without even being build except Tvesti

[onyx scaffold]

It doesn't depend on sync
It depends on bracket

A guy copies the team and succeeded
Others follow

I know the team
I know ppl win CA with it
I cannot afford it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1009484479779315763.png?v=1

[gaunt pulsar]

nah it still does depend on sync, people at 280 dont have units properly OL'ed and not everyone even has every option in the game, except leviathans that bought everything to have at that point. Situations totally different to what happens when people naturally at 400+ and enter CA

[shell hazel]

also might be bias as those sync people started around those banners

so initially rolled for them and lacked other options

[ivory violet]

The Absolute trio team is deceptively cheesy. If you run jackal/vesti/emma/eunhwa/emilia in CA most likely the other guy's team can't handle p1-p3 dying before burst

[onyx scaffold]

I saw the guy who made that team with sync 7xx and won CA 11 times by the time the team was posted public

situations are different? dude it is just applied to MOST LINE UP

people at high sync brackets do avoid using non-doll units

[lone sequoia]

trio is a cheap team, allow to make stronger other teams

[onyx scaffold]

while people at low sync don't bother to it significantly

[ivory violet]

But I think Keripo's variation of that is better with Noah/Vesti/Emilia/La+/Noise which works on the same principle but only kills p1/p2

[shell hazel]

is certainly an expensive team though

mind you jackal/vesti/emi is also 😛

[lone sequoia]

that is AoE team, different than trio

noah+RLs +(privaty main b3) but you don't need privaty now

[placid bloom]

if you can afford to put Noah + Emi + LapT in Vesti team you have very solid roster already

[lone sequoia]

for that team you need a really strong noah or noise

and cs...

[placid bloom]

you also need teams that don't need those chars

[lone sequoia]

it helps to free biscuit

but you can run indom x unit+ DoT x unit and let say more 2RL nukes

i don't know if there will be a meta shift with nayuta/lib, just that nayuta makes easier to counter some nuke teams and lib work as battery or mega nuke

probably just more atk tools for people who don't spend in pvp

[placid bloom]

Lib is okay as 2nd B3 in Vesti Blanc

her number just happens to math out

[ivory violet]

Alright can I get some help figuring out if I'll win this CA matchup or not?
T1: W, He shoots at my biscuit indommed defenders and I win
T2: W, Pretty sure my units will just kill his before burst even goes off
T3: ?, will my Vesti and Emilia do enough damage?
T4: L, his siren stuns my Nayuta before she can burst
T5: L, my scarlet is pretty weak and won’t kill his slow Cindy team

[shell hazel]

eh I never bother truly working out the quals because you don't even know what side you're on ahead of time

and for things like SG team it does matter

what will be will be I just check the results 😄

[worldly osprey]

@swift mango i guess i'm gonna lose

[ivory violet]

I find it enjoyable to think it through there's quite a bit of depth

[placid bloom]

it's rare to see SR carry so that one is not as coinflip as SG matchup

[willow thicket]

If I plan to use maid Soda in arena, do I need to give her OL gear?

I only have her skills at 4/4/4, do any of those need to go higher?

[tropic summit]

as battery it's just a matter of CP
as main B3 or as SG pressure, then yes she needs the stats to be threatening

[willow thicket]

Sorry, I mean maid Soda, the one that stuns.

[tropic summit]

if used in p4 she doesn't need much of anything, just a matter of CP
if used in p1 or p2, she needs to survive to 2RL

[placid bloom]

you need OL gear if you don't want to die

ofc depends on your rivals

if they also OL-less then you don't care

[jagged mesa]

Wait is the time to set CA teams up already

[acoustic light]

@placid bloom do u still need to test teams against my lineup I can go back up

[jagged mesa]

Or do I still have time

[ivory violet]

yea it ended like 5 hours ago

[willow thicket]

Ok, thank you.

Right now, she is surviving without OL, but my CP is pretty low.

[jagged mesa]

Oh well gg

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/wink-anime-anime-wink-peace-peace-sign-gif-3929988093931252469

[placid bloom]

CA up already

[jagged mesa]

On the clock rn no choice

[flat fern]

@quartz rover the SP ladder is far more contentious now, the top 1 spot has changed up between like 3 people for the past few days

imma take a swing since everyone else has huuuuge CP differences on me

[jagged mesa]

I feel like my misfortune is always a mini highlight of railtracers day

[placid bloom]

Seems Caius cannot crack my new Def, you can hit him and then me so I go third to hit you

[tropic summit]

you were only 5 hours late, now you've got plenty of days to prepare at least

for the next one

[placid bloom]

well maybe he hit 401 today and then he can CP deficit me

[jagged mesa]

If only the time to edit teams wasn't limited to that specific time window

[quartz rover]

Yeah I think the other dude doesn't have a team, just a lot of pve nikke

[flat fern]

#1 most def. has just strong PVE ones in general by the looks of it

idk what they've been attacking with though

[quartz rover]

I can beat the Alice guy

[flat fern]

the guy with the korean name has been the one trading around a lot here and there I think

[forest zodiac]

Could someone help me with this, I keep crashing into this. t1 wins.

[flat fern]

a well built nayuta hurts 😭

[quartz rover]

the one with sdoro pfp?

[flat fern]

more for rookie arena but there is one

I forgot who

[quartz rover]

the guy in #1 uses a lot of gems, someone tagged me when they saw the new spa thing I posted

I wouldnt bother with arteris unless you can build a good team

[flat fern]

I'll take a swing at the alice guy when you take back 3

[thin perch]

Are either liberalio or Nayuta good for PvP?

[flat fern]

can't speak on how good for nayuta, but a well built nayuta bursting can hurt

[tropic summit]

your teams are on the left

the above assumes you're not in deficit

[quartz rover]

No need

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit

[austere marsh]

@tropic summit @swift mango RAAAHHHH

[acoustic light]

was fighting caius and in two different fights rls whiffed even though all targets were alive

[flat fern]

would nayuta's 9s of indom be relevant in some niche scenario?

[placid bloom]

new bug?

all your RL missed or just some

[acoustic light]

one sec

[tropic summit]

amazing

ironically RH dying made their rocket whiff so vesti could actually live

[forest zodiac]

bless you, I'll try in a few

[tropic summit]

record if you can cuz T3 gonna be interesting

[austere marsh]

Will be rewarding RH with MLB

[acoustic light]

wtf is this

[placid bloom]

Scar 20 ammo cover dodge

new tech?

reload too fast

[tropic summit]

real question why rosanna in p2? she loses conceal to splash

unless it's on purpose for testing

[acoustic light]

ikik left her in p2 in my CA team too

[tropic summit]

[placid bloom]

that reload timing actually insane, missiles already in the air

[acoustic light]

so did scar duck under the rls like they're dodgeballs?

[pale knoll]

[austere marsh]

Wait, so with RH whiff, does that mean future wins will be rng?

[quartz rover]

coop??

[tropic summit]

i didn't even notice

[placid bloom]

I think it's a combination of his low ammo and your cs just happen to make him reload while your rockets are flying

[acoustic light]

secret tech against high cs scar teams?

[placid bloom]

normally that never happens

[pale knoll]

It's funny because I was actually thinking about finding you like 10 min before queueing, then I found you

[placid bloom]

because by the time rockets fire they will re-aim at cover

[tropic summit]

fated to meet

[placid bloom]

you just got super unlucky the rockets are in the air

[acoustic light]

so if I repeat then thisll happen again against his specific team

[placid bloom]

yeah unless he gets more ammo

or you have less cs

[pale knoll]

What you using for this comp? No pvp investment on anything no noah

[shell hazel]

a wild Railtracer appears!

[tropic summit]

wow 3 exact same teams on those lads

[acoustic light]

okok honestly pretty cool never seen it before

[tropic summit]

well without noah... i guess you could try for stalling with bay instead

[pale knoll]

Yeah, I always go for lowest guy to fo the 5 quick, but every mf is using the same shit

[placid bloom]

I think it might even be your specific cs that it works on, maybe if you get 3% more or less it doesn't happen

[tropic summit]

if you've these, it should work

if bay isn't treasured move helmt in p2 and bay in p3

[pale knoll]

My laplace is not teeasured nor is bay

[tropic summit]

oke post le box let's see

[pale knoll]

1 sec👍

[forest zodiac]

I just read the teams, I don't have vestiTU built or lapT

[tropic summit]

post your box so i know what you can run

[tropic summit]

[placid bloom]

it's okay, this my first time seeing this shit too

who knows that his ammo is so bad that he can dodge you

[acoustic light]

kuwon there's another thing ill need ur help explaining

[tropic summit]

let's get your bay to 4/4/4 blue doll R0?

@pale knoll you're on the left

[acoustic light]

he broke another one of my teams too

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[acoustic light]

this is supposed to be under 2rl Ill find another vid

[placid bloom]

p5 Cinderella decoy doesn't let you proc Helm skill

so you lose 2% burst gen per shot

[acoustic light]

oh yea 😭

[placid bloom]

this one

no extra hit on decoy

[acoustic light]

why is cindy even on that team

[placid bloom]

because it's unlinked Vesti, he expects her to die

need backup B3

[acoustic light]

ok Ill just hit u directly wasting too many gems lol

[placid bloom]

lmao

[acoustic light]

i dont mind sitting in p4 some more

also lemme know when ur done testing I should prolly hit 401

[placid bloom]

well I just wanted to see if I can hit over your Vesti team but I think I need 381 for that, and I think that will not be until next week so it's better if you just hit 401 and clear ch30

not really an issue if I can't test

I know the team comp I need, I just don't have CP

[pale knoll]

Too much investment for me

[acoustic light]

what cp ur vesti team? 592k? bc I can find a way to get the cp in range

[tropic summit]

post these matchup let's crosscheck CP

[pale knoll]

I got clapped😂

[tropic summit]

as in indom scarlet managed to still kill you after you nuked em?

[leaden canyon]

@tropic summit What you think

[pale knoll]

No one died lol

[tropic summit]

dafuq were you in deficit?

[pale knoll]

How to calculate deficit again? Haven't done pvp in a long time 😅

[tropic summit]

multiply enemy CP for 0.846

you need to be equal or higher than that number

[tropic summit]

you already know T2 wins, T1 should be fine if you hit indom... but you're on deficit

[pale knoll]

Yep it is fine, let me record and show you 👍

[tropic summit]

yep please

[leaden canyon]

yeah but viper doesn't hit alice now so maybe fine

[tropic summit]

what do you mean she doesn't hit alice, she's in p5

[leaden canyon]

Wait viper p3 hits alice? I thought sg had to be in p4 and p5

[tropic summit]

SG regardless of position, if not taunted, shoot p5

(when you attacking)

[leaden canyon]

oh

[placid bloom]

I will check when I get home, my phone getting too hot

can't handle this game

[forest zodiac]

I don't remember what multiplier it is to calc for cp

[tropic summit]

what in the world, scarlet isn't linked but targeted as highest attack?

[pale knoll]

[tropic summit]

dafuq am i seeing

[forest zodiac]

0.85 something?

[tropic summit]

ye looks good, record and run these

[forest zodiac]

I can put 15 resil into noise for more cp, right now it is tempering 5 on her

[tropic summit]

@swift mango @placid bloom @shell hazel @lone sequoia take a look at this, scarlet highest attack but somehow not linked? jackal doesn't take dmg

[forest zodiac]

or I guess its fine as is?

[gaunt pulsar]

#pvp-arena message

[tropic summit]

jackal quantum
noise vigor
xmaiden any
lib temperance
noah temperance

[tropic summit]

CP is fine

[lone sequoia]

bait(?)

[forest zodiac]

wait, but table was asking for quantum on noah

[tropic summit]

ye but how can you have highest atk unit and not being linked

[tropic summit]

ye it's fine you're 98% to 100%, they feed you from 0RL to 1RL

[wind kelp]

Well this should be fun

[lone sequoia]

OL %, it doesn't count buff stacks

jackal shared dmg proc on highest atk units (OL) skills target current highest atk

[tropic summit]

so what's happening here, scarlet is not considered highest atk% at start so she doesn't link, but is then considered higher atk% because she gets her self buffs thus helm targets her?

[lone sequoia]

yep

[tropic summit]

what kind of 4D chess move is that

[lone sequoia]

just a bait unit

like when* you use a different attacker(more atk) to taunt helm snipe

[placid bloom]

[tropic summit]

and to double down, they're 3RL but enough CS% to hit blanc B2 on 2.5RL?

[placid bloom]

Scar def not linked

[tropic summit]

what in the world

they're hitting blanc B2 on 2.5RL out of this

what kind of monster CS% do they have on

@pale knoll your opponent is raidboss level of invest

[placid bloom]

deck says only Helm needs cs

[tropic summit]

they've blanc hitting B2 on a 2RL B3

[placid bloom]

and Helm nuke is too slow to land before 2.5RL Blanc

[tropic summit]

from a 2.5RL

[placid bloom]

Helm nuke is actually really slow

not quite as slow as Cinderella

but I've failed 2 on 2.5 Blanc before

[tropic summit]

not even my whels have their scarlet do that

sick.

[pale knoll]

Nah lmao, he is my friend

[tropic summit]

did you read the above? lad running some funny setup

[pale knoll]

He has like 2% cs on helm and 0 on jackal

[tropic summit]

dafuq.

i dunno anymore

i'll just go shooting range

[pale knoll]

Look

[tropic summit]

[gaunt pulsar]

math aint mathing

[forest zodiac]

@tropic summit https://streamable.com/rxrell t2 died

[tropic summit]

🍿

[placid bloom]

you can actually see the water missile in the corner as Blanc's 262k heal starts to tick

[lone sequoia]

what are you trying to do?

[placid bloom]

that's how slow Helm nuke is

[lone sequoia]

yes it is, you still can outspeed scarlet nuke

but hard to do it with blanc without cs

[tropic summit]

well at least we know T1 works

gotta rethink approach for T2 and T3 as noah seems to cast just in time

[forest zodiac]

I'm out of attempts for today

[jagged mesa]

I thought it's desynced from animation

[placid bloom]

[jagged mesa]

Isn't helm nuke actually fast in pvp

I don't know anymore I'm out of PvP content

[placid bloom]

no, the animation has to finish before the damage even shows up

hard to get exact frame without full burst glow without video editor

[jagged mesa]

Press E on vlc to go frame by frame

Terrible solution but serviceable

[placid bloom]

this one is a little cleaner

[pale knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-smoking-sadge-pepe-smoking-pepe-sadge-gif-16948267171533269841

[placid bloom]

water missile more clear at least

I think it's around Lib burst speed

so not reliable for 0.5RL speed diff snipe

you need to be 1RL faster to be safe from defensive B2

[tropic summit]

try these tomorrow when you got time, record again, T2 quantums on noah and bsoda, lvl 7

[onyx scaffold]

Dude. Wrong channel @limber silo

[limber silo]

whats the right channel

[onyx scaffold]

Let's go to spoiler@limber silo

#story-spoilers

[jagged mesa]

Lmfao

Wreaking havoc across multiple channels

[forest zodiac]

thank you, I'll try em

[leaden canyon]

@tropic summit I'm using cindy p5 for t1, he added drake so its double sg now with higher deficit, should I take allice out for drake for more gen?

[sleek ginkgo]

What does the * mean in centi* for exemple ?
Charge speed ?

[leaden canyon]

is alice needed anymore on it or do I just send in drake

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit lel got nayuta off of a free single

[hollow lagoon]

but i rolled my sbs from 2 ele back to 1 ele

[tropic summit]

yeah that CP is impossible without biscuit locked team or nayuta in p5 to tank the SGs

[leaden canyon]

so try to kill this now

Rapi indom?

[hollow lagoon]

if i dont get my ele roll on sbs back before raid i'mma be screwed

[tropic summit]

equally fast indom but with high fire rate might do

[leaden canyon]

?

oh crap my rapi not linked there

thats surprising

[leaden canyon]

worked

I recorded it too

[sleek ginkgo]

What does the * mean in this

[leaden canyon]

cant use hood because shes already on a team I cant take her off

[covert lintel]

Liter or miranda+ then

[leaden canyon]

also he changed it

He now has it as mihara rapi viperT nayuta cindy

in that order

I would have loved to try the team though

I dont think you have cooked me something that has failed yet

[covert lintel]

[leaden canyon]

I will have to overload miranda

But he changes his defense after every attack

so will be different next time anyway

[covert lintel]

Once everything except his nayuta die, it depends on your 5 nikke defensive

[leaden canyon]

I mean i'm going to be in heavy deficit

[covert lintel]

Oh right

[leaden canyon]

yep

He hit the 41 cp increase sync level

I'm 4 levels from mine

I g2g but thanks for the cooks

[tropic summit]

nice good job

[keen vapor]

@quick lake only you know
-# I'm guessing is flex spot or that it needs quantum

[shell hazel]

quantum

[eager mountain]

and now 0 rocks day

[ornate spoke]

been a while since i had to look around, but what do i need to counter this team in RA?

[brazen ledge]

i guess you don't survive rosanna's burst ?

[ornate spoke]

pmuch

[brazen ledge]

if you survive it just use noah

[ornate spoke]

ah this is the team i used and failed 😂

i havent changed that team in 2 years lol

[lunar pawn]

what team should I use here?

mm maybe ada wong? not sure if she splashes or just ST

[leaden canyon]

Well its now this @tropic summit @covert lintel

Well I beat it

[glad meteor]

Noise noah cindy helm jackal?

[ornate spoke]

oh i just got it lol

[ornate spoke]

ill try that one tmr

i need to set a couple of teams too, so might as well try while i have the leeway in the arena

[ivory violet]

Wouldn't vesti or emilia Hit Rosanna and make her burst not hit as hard?

[ornate spoke]

new vesti?

[ivory violet]

Yeah

[ornate spoke]

i could try a vesti team tmr too

[uncut egret]

Got some new pulls, what are my best teams for arena?

[quartz vortex]

how good is tactical unit trio for pvp?

[onyx scaffold]

Use 2 dps. One is nuked. The other bursts

[leaden canyon]

Just vesti really.

Vesti top pvp unit

[onyx scaffold]

Vesti can be flexible SSS tier
The others are used with Vesti to give her true dmg instantly so u can save key units like Blanc/Jackal/... For other teams

Happens in CA

No need for that in SpA

[uncut egret]

Bump?

[low barn]

@tropic summit climbed all the way to challenger lol

goated comp you gave me

[slate falcon]

What are the odds of winning this?

[spare nimbus]

For team 1 just kill liter, then they can’t even burst

Also on team 2 your liberio will probably get the indom instead of vesti

[slate falcon]

So should I just swap their places or nah? @spare nimbus

[tropic summit]

nice, opponent teams now will likely require you to run the proper comps to counter them

[tropic summit]

you're his worst nightmare

[umbral crown]

that reminds me to tix libe

[austere marsh]

Does RRH have any niche in PvP?

[hard isle]

so funny to me that i can be here and have basically nobody else i can win against lmao, with this power number

[slate falcon]

Sub dps

[leaden canyon]

The thing is, he can beat the whale yet he chooses to fight me

The whale logs in once a day

and its before reset

[tropic summit]

such a lovely bromance you two have

[vapid lake]

Sometimes ur rival just hates ur face, theres no other explanation for why they attack u instead of an easier target ||besides stupidity|| i had someone liek that in my previous bracket too

[leaden canyon]

Nah he only targets me, I even stopped attacking him to attack another guy and he just only hit me even when he could have hit the other guy at times to get a higher position

And I know he can beat the other guy

So now I made it my mission to make sure he doesn't get his extra 300 gems out of spite at this point

also hes in cozy union

Apparently some people here are familiar with that union

[uncut egret]

Bump?

[covert lintel]

First you need to make your atker team guaranteed to win

[glad meteor]

If rosanna is jackal linked she wont lose conceal aside from enemy ros dispel, some interesting coding

With damage distribution

But enemy helm and scar could steal link there

[covert lintel]

I wonder why c3 in my bracket didn't atk me
Iirc last year he's gemmer against me

[leaden canyon]

Cant really do that when ever he changes the teams around every time

I do have 1 guaranteed

[ivory violet]

Lol wtf that's interesting

[wise horizon]

Looks good to attack?

[proud bobcat]

Can someone help me create teams for sp arena and rookie too please

[nimble swan]

You mean if rosa is linked it doesn’t matter if he gets hit it doesn’t affect conceal?

[glad meteor]

Yep

[glad meteor]

T3 might be sus if can’t nuke rh

[nimble swan]

Interesting. Guess it’s not a bug but a feature

Btw is the vesti sync shot bug still a thing?

[glad meteor]

Should be fixed

Just noah biscuit cindy helm jackal

[crystal flicker]

Noah 2RL win against Scarlet Trina 2RL everyday

[proud bobcat]

Hey guys can someone help me make teams for PVP please

[crystal flicker]

You have to worry more about breaking 160 wall before PvP

[proud bobcat]

I am lol, im just trying to do what i can now

[crystal flicker]

People gonna CP pad you

[proud bobcat]

Mhm I got Nayuta and Liberalio almost at MLB now, Chime is supposed to be my 3rd one too

I guess i gotta spam pull on the standard banner with the wishlist? or get lucky lol

[crystal flicker]

Wishlist Trina and Jackal, Noah too, you ain't PvP-ing without them

Biscuit

[proud bobcat]

Lemme check what i got there

[leaden canyon]

p5 siren can still stun p1 right?

[crystal flicker]

Yes

[agile estuary]

you should be able to MLB drake from Road to Villain, then on standard banner try to MLB naga and/or Alice from the special first 600 thing

liter is also a great B1

[proud bobcat]

Hmm this is my wish list

[proud bobcat]

Yeye it's just that i got Naga and Alice at lb1 both i guess so i wanna get one of them before i get the last copy

[crystal flicker]

Put Trina Jackal

[proud bobcat]

Who do i take out of the list for them?

[crystal flicker]

Drake?

[proud bobcat]

Done who else

Tia or Liter hmm

Or maybe Ein?

[crystal flicker]

They're essential for Missilis tower though

[proud bobcat]

Yeahh idk :3

[crystal flicker]

You can always get Liter Naga Alice from 200 standard pulls, but yeah

Just prioritize Jackal

for PvP, then you can just pair Scarlet with B2 buffer

[proud bobcat]

Yessir, what teams can i cope with now though lol

[crystal flicker]

Semi CP pad with Nayuta ScarBS Drake RH and Noir
Noise Naga Liberalio Siren Bay
And auto because you lack PvP Nikke
@proud bobcat

[ivory violet]

can probably throw anis in there somewhere she has rly good burst gen

[crystal flicker]

The CP just too low

Unless he gave them SR5 to carry Anis

[oak hatch]

Would it help keep Noah alive here if I position my team as vesti Noah centi instead?

[crystal flicker]

Ofc, as long as she's linked

[crystal pollen]

so been trying to make defence team sp arena (the attack team is basically the same but in attacking positions) base on ive learn so far. Does this looks okay?

[oak hatch]

Wouldn’t rh and vesti be linked here?

[crystal flicker]

Yeah, just beware with Sirern though

[vapid lake]

Run out of gem

[jagged mesa]

@tropic summit are you an expert on CS% rounding? if so do you know if that also applies to PVE content and whether MFRA (i suspect to be asynchronous) affects it?

or if anybody else knows more about this, feel free to chip in

idr who knows what in depth

[ocean oyster]

Keep in mind you burst from left to right in arena, so your noah and blanc are completely useless.. drake is bursting too instead of vesti

[umbral belfry]

more winds in p1-p3

yummy yummy for vesti

[swift mango]

@austere marsh

Nah that's just missinformed. Blanc already done resolving before RH died. But if you wanted to be safe in case of them critting and killing you early in the future.

Vesti+Blanc+Biscuit+RH+Jackal

[tropic summit]

you probably have a better chance asking it in #questions

What i can tell you is rounding CS% for PvP and you can easily find it out here https://nikke.work/

put your unit in there then add the CS% by clicking on said unit, it rounds it up for you

[tropic summit]

taking a look at the frames it does look like RH made it to B3 before dying, meaning blanc kicked in

although that is a very close case scenario

[jagged mesa]

fair, okay

[swift mango]

yeah, split second close

[gritty ridge]

Rail i cant possibly conceive a way to win

[tropic summit]

can you reach CP range for both first of all?

keep in mind you can run scar-jack with scar+jack and rest padding for T2

as for T3, it's a very slow team, noah biscuit locked team with padding can take care of it, or as you already are trying with a vestiTU on deficit you can still wipe behind a biscuit locked team with padding

[tropic summit]

you need 390k for T2, i think you can pull it off

scar-jack in that case can still survive with 16-18% deficit, give her temperance

alternatively switch approach, biscuit lock team against T2, scar jack against T3, jackal in p1 if you wanna burst on 2RL which you should with that amount of feed

[gritty ridge]

Rail i appreciate the help but I was just messing with you

Both of those teams won lol

Also i don't think vesti is in deficit

[weak dust]

anyone know how i can fit in nayuta?

[swift mango]

It's sad but privaty dupe is useless in the long run. Naga and liter could be claim from pulling standard. Alice is also going to be useless after awhile.

[swift mango]

Well, wishing for dupe for passing the wall is right ideal, in that case put everyone one you own into the wishlist for now.

keeping the pilgrim list as is though

[hollow eagle]

is nikke(.)work not updated anymore? I cant find Ada in there

[placid bloom]

not updated since last month

but you can just use any RL

regular RL

[tropic summit]

wasn't sure but i figured you weren't serious

23% deficit scar will lose once you increase in synchro though, assuming your opponents invest

i miss the times of lower synchro when you weren't so heavily punished

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

looks like my brick on scarlet gear got to you

[hot shuttle]

anyone know a good 2RL T-vesti blanc indom team?

[swift mango]

Vesti+HelmT+Blanc+RH+Jackal

[hot shuttle]

thanks! Appreciate it!

[hybrid fox]

same team 3 quantum cubes this time lose (last time win) other 2 teams win

[ivory violet]

Yeah

[covert lintel]

Just change position to p3 siren
You'd win

[hot shuttle]

Anyone know a good counter team to these teams?

jackal/blanc/t-vesti/biscuit/t-helm

noah/jackal/t-vesti/t-helm/biscuit

two individual are giving me a hard time.

[swift mango]

You used same team but they changed their team.

Change siren to p4. You don't even need siren tbh because that's Blanc without biscuit

[hybrid fox]

eh oh
I didnt notice

[clever dock]

great placement xd

[open jewel]

Someone PLEASE tell me what counters
Noise/Biscuit/Noah/Cindy/Laplace

[whole pawn]

Hi, I want to unbrick my pvp

Btw I don't have noah

[quick lake]

2RL Scar Trina doesnt work?

[open jewel]

I don't have Trina so I use
scar/blanc/Siren/Jackal/Helm T

But I still can't seem to counter

[quick lake]

Scar Blanc definitely not enough

[quick lake]

Alternatively, Lib + RH 2RL should win as well, if Libby max skills

[open jewel]

Oke

[livid marsh]

Libby cs?

[quick lake]

Need to wait for more tests likely

[livid marsh]

Need more

[ivory violet]

This is for PvE but 3/4 cs is optimal on liberalio

[covert lintel]

So just 4 atk 4 ed 4 cs?

[quick lake]

The consideration for cs% on Libby in pvp, is how much cs is required so that 2RL burst gen is better

[quick lake]

Ideally. Maybe 1ammo 3cs is fine as well

[ivory violet]

It's pretty depressing that she only gets 1 shot off in 2rl's time

But surely with like 20% cs she can hit twice in 2rl which would be some pretty insane burst gen

[quick lake]

I think 1 shot is okay because her follow up s1 procs also contribute gen. So we want the 5th proc to be within 2RL time i think

[ivory violet]

Right it's that slow s1

[quick lake]

will wait for pvp math-ers to do the math

[tribal nebula]

Hi ! Scar rosa can counter vesti comp ? (Moran / noah / vesti / Helm / jackal ) or an other comp ?

[crystal flicker]

We wait for Rail to do the math

[tulip quest]

Oh sky's math

[ivory violet]

Lol yup

[tulip quest]

I think best Value is 4 Ele 4 Attk and 4CS

if you can't try to 4ELE 4 ATTK others bonus CS or Ammo

[quick lake]

yeah definitely. for SR/UR Libby, no need ammo

[tulip quest]

or at least UNTIL U run out of ROCKS

Like me

https://tenor.com/view/mello916-shard-meth-gif-4890077

[ivory violet]

Maybe next wind solo raid I'll try for that last charge speed line on my liberalio. For now I think this is good enuff

[tulip quest]

Thats POG roll

[ivory violet]

Lol yeah shiftup blessed me for this wind solo raid

[tulip quest]

Your Nayuta good also?

my Rei is SAD XD

[ivory violet]

4 ele 2 atk

[ivory violet]

I'm legit about to save the rest of my rocks for her

And skill her s1 and burst to 10

Bc I wanna use her in PvP

[tulip quest]

wOAH Good also

[tulip quest]

But Liberalio takes her place now Tho

IF Shift up FIXES Her 3 seconds 160% damage delay

then she becomes a monster

[quick lake]

delay isnt that bad

[tulip quest]

it makes it rng sometimes tho

[ivory violet]

Well my lib is gonna lose me CA this time around so I wanna try Rei for. funsies

[tulip quest]

I hate that

[quick lake]

Libby should be a better Cindy overall

[tulip quest]

haha yea now only that delay damage then I 100% agree

I think She is higher than LapT burst gen right now

I used her This C.A lets see how far I go or Maybe just Advance as always XD

[eager mountain]

[tribal nebula]

"So I need to level up my 'Soda' for the stun (I was already planning to do it but it's difficult with all the meta Nikkes to upgrade right now)." Any alternative ?

[crystal flicker]

Siren would work if they don't have 11% CS

[tribal nebula]

Ok thx i will try

[marble saddle]

Can anyone help me bypass these teams?

i do not have a Tvesti available

[swift mango]

Use their team 1 to hit their team 3. Use 3 to hit 2. Use 2 to hit 1.

[marble saddle]

cant use 2 since i do not have testi

[swift mango]

For team 3, use biscuit instead of Lap if you wanted to be extra sure.

[swift mango]

And team 1 move Noise to p1 because your CS may not be enough... But could use Rakuen cook.

[marble saddle]

how much invest would soda need?

[swift mango]

Enough so you don't be deficit.

[marble saddle]

then i prob wont be using that cook. my soda was never invested

ill try using some blood pudding instead

[swift mango]

Do you know deficit in Arena? It started with 15.4% lower than your opponent.

[marble saddle]

yes ik. the prob here is my knowledge of PVP is far beneath my opponent's.
hence why im at the disadvantage

[covert lintel]

I just realized my cook didn't use blanc

[swift mango]

[covert lintel]

And i still have not tested libby is accurate or not

[swift mango]

Maybe rail could be waking up now to help using excel.

[covert lintel]

She will be ridiculously strong if that kind of team is really 2rl

[swift mango]

What kind of team?

[covert lintel]

Rumani noah

[marble saddle]

@swift mango moved Noise to position 1 but will noah move to pos 2 or pos 5?

going with this

[swift mango]

Noah need to be before Centi from the left. So p2. Or use Rumani instead of centi

That team 1 probably won't work.

[marble saddle]

yeah it didnt work but the other 2 did so i guess the end result was reached
i thought Emillia would die before the burst happened so my bad

[swift mango]

You burst with Centi intead of Noah and still won.

[marble saddle]

im posting a vid of what happened. ik its weird

i realized my mistake too late

i hate my network. been like this for 5 mins now

[crystal flicker]

45MB is insane

[swift mango]

Well, not that weird. Their scar could be crap or you just over level them. Many reason.

[marble saddle]

one thing i noticed is my scars hp wasnt at 100% when the fight started

[swift mango]

Yeah, Trina skill give her max HP buff without healing

[marble saddle]

oh.

[whole pawn]

i need help

[unique mountain]

Head pats

[marble saddle]

@swift mango@crystal flicker finally

[shell hazel]

noise burst made the scar on t3 non-lethal 😄

it would have been better if you burst with noah though lol

[marble saddle]

honestly i was supposed to lose t3

[shell hazel]

how come? 2RL scar is usually the easiest team to beat

2RL noah and it's easy win

[marble saddle]

cause noah was supposed to burst not centi

[shell hazel]

your t1 would have been better with vesti TU indom if you have her built

[whole pawn]

what changes do i add on my teams? These are defenses

[shell hazel]

your emi looks weak

[crystal flicker]

Could get 3/3 if you have Soda

[marble saddle]

i have every pvp unit. the problem is some of them arent built
Vesti Emillia Soda being a few

[shell hazel]

emi can work as a battery probably even so - vesti needs to be built somewhat to be good

[marble saddle]

no doubt

[shell hazel]

if you can use bay on t3 instead then you can noah the t1 with vesti also

[marble saddle]

yeah im using emi as a battery so i expected her to die before burst happened. but she didnt so indom went to her rather than SBS

also for trina is one of the OL stats CS?

[shell hazel]

you don't really need biscuit on the scar team either imo

trina likes CS yes, it's the main one you want

[marble saddle]

i was originally using Taplace but blood said biscuit for make winning more guaranteed

[shell hazel]

ammo/ele/atk nice on top but mainly want some cs

[marble saddle]

man...... i need to fix alot of units

[shell hazel]

it's because of the immunity it gives to your jackal but didn't look like you took that much damage to me

[marble saddle]

yeah but since i hadnt used jackal on pos 1 earlier there was a chance id fail so to reduce it i took biscuit

[tropic summit]

@marble saddle your bracket finally got active?

[marble saddle]

did anyone's not become active?

[whole pawn]

bump

[tropic summit]

i'm sleeping since season began

loving current bracket

[marble saddle]

i got 2 whales added to my bracket so im gonna be busy these few months

[quick lake]

Very nice

Afk pvp best pvp

[tropic summit]

noone wants to deal with my sh*t anymore

not even my whel that could auto me

[marble saddle]

imagine you meet my 7 mill cp whale

[tropic summit]

should be thankful to them, they're sponsoring the next lewd skins

[whole pawn]

@fathom rock

[crystal flicker]

Rail is the Whale

[marble saddle]

at my expense so fq them

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[crystal flicker]

"If you can't beat #1, join them"

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/بحبالفلوس-gif-25731629

[shell hazel]

this should win I think 3/3 but your t2 is unchanged, and bay is good enough to block scar for t3

leaves you options for t1 with indom/noah

assumed no cs on anything

[swift mango]

Lower Global bracket Global living a good life.

[tropic summit]

are you perma ch1 too still?

[shell hazel]

I say t2 is unchanged but biscuit is out, I think jackal is OK here alone

[shell hazel]

whaletracer!

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-whale-peep-spit-by-whale-gif-12011040

[shell hazel]

what do the other top spots look like?

[tropic summit]

whel
chinnit
chinnit
new guy

[swift mango]

Nah top 3. Your CP would be hit by 3 guys c4 below if it was my last bracket.

[shell hazel]

cp?

[tropic summit]

well it is like that too in my bracket they just don't bother anymore

keep changing def everytime they break one and they've lost motivation

[whole pawn]

[tropic summit]

probably realized 300 gems aint worth it

[shell hazel]

opening the crates has probably helped

[tropic summit]

nah still in range a plenty

[shell hazel]

interesting. then yeah maybe le tired 😛

[tropic summit]

wouldn't gap even with 501

hence why i didn't open yet

[marble saddle]

@whole pawn if you need help beating people I suggest using the nikke deck site to post your opponent teams details.

[unique wagon]

Liber has emilia tier burst gen?

[tropic summit]

xmaiden tier burst gen

although 15CS% hasn't been tested/noted yet if it makes enough impact with onhit

[swift mango]

All the hard core c4 below left in this new bracket. So no one hitting anymore. Good for them, finally a chance to hit CA again.

Your account are 1 month older than mine remember. You won't be able to save box in my last bracket.

[unique wagon]

No its Emilia

[whole pawn]

thats not even my question, it was about def teams, good morning sleepy zlaw

[unique wagon]

Maiden is way too far off

[marble saddle]

There's no Def better than 2x cp than your opponent

[whole pawn]

as expected from a cringe community

cant take matters serious

[tropic summit]

for 3RL via onhit yeah

[marble saddle]

I've tried 7 teams in the past 2 days. All were defeated.
You think I'm joking huh.

[tropic summit]

hence why with CS% it could get interesting

but i don't think anyone tested or provided the numbers yet

TiBi was messing around with it

[shell hazel]

she'll be an expensive one to build if we need max CS

[whole pawn]

yeah,
i m still waiting for help on my request however

[shell hazel]

I'm just going to wait and see what the results are like

no rocks anyway, time to chill

[marble saddle]

K.

[swift mango]

My guys don't lost motivation so long at their CP still in range. It's just I CP gapped them.

When it was in range, a level bricked guy even gem me.

[whole pawn]

@fathom rock

[tropic summit]

might've to do with the fact they always see you on top and want to experience it at least once

[swift mango]

To be frank that single dude was actually same synch at me, even few level higher, when we first meet more than a year ago.

[tropic summit]

and he fell asleep?

[swift mango]

And competed with me for c3.

He left for another bracket without my CN whale and came back 10 level lower than me.

Who knows what happened.

[tropic summit]

the trauma of dealing with whels

took 10 synchros away from his life

[swift mango]

More like the other bracket at my synch that I never get to experienced was so easily that everyone who came back from it level bricked.

[tropic summit]

eh you dunno about that, there's probably whels and gemmers there too

[swift mango]

I have seen all the guy around my starting time at this points. They just come and go. Should be enough to form 2 bracket.

4 guys regularly above the rest at this point are 1 Gemmer, 1 CN whale, 1 Eng Whale and myself. I and the CN whale always stuck together. The other 2 guys sometime together sometime with us.

Even that ENG name whale became level bricked after coming back. He used to be 80 level above me. And now only 40.

Ofc new whale from larger time difference could mix in if they sinked the brackets more.

[whole pawn]

Bump

[swift mango]

In this economy? Maybe swap Jackal and Siren.

[tropic summit]

i see, seems rather stable bracket alright

the day they rework PvP to prevent the tedious back and forth that goes unpunished is far away

imagine a pvp mode that rewards not for gapping or for gemming, but for actual knowledge/experience with the game...

but that wouldn't add revenue to the game, because it does not motivate p2p

i've put it in some feedbacks before... modes that award skins for challenges instead of always being pay locked, but needless to say it probably got garbo'ed right after they read it

[swift mango]

They read it?

[tropic summit]

a good point

bah there's probably some underpaid intern who does

[whole pawn]

in this economy yes

[swift mango]

You mean the AI that automatical delete your inappropriate feedback.