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i wouldn't go above A tbh
So she can't replace lap+?
idk, pyrdwen tentative was S i think
that's VERY tentative...
thats what their A looks like
there are two dudes always beating me I wanted to check their team but I fell too far in rank but if I remember correctly one is running jackal noah with biscuit and sbs and the other is running xmaiden aand Cindy
Not reallyy i think. Imo I still like the quiry version best
S is also lots of irrelevant units
well defense in rookie is easy to beat, don't expect it to hold against anyone who's a bit of a clue of what they doin'
ye that list is kinda garbo now that i see it
why is mana s
because some of those units can be S situationally, but generic purpose may aswell be trash
cause “revive” but we rarely use her nowadays 
guess you're right
No one uses quiry in my ca group
Guess i didn't realise just how much stuff i had in store, swayt 😄 Also doll at Purple5.
Either lap+ or emi as 2nd burst
Yeah, JP/CN favorite setups
to put it simply, if your defense works it's because your opponent is doing something wrong
the only time it is ensured to work it's when you're gapping them, but that's a whale tool
just prydwen pvp tier list things 😄
I'd throw her in A
I thought for sure lib can be an alternative but can't huh
a real pvp list would need to actually think of:
- attacker pvp tier list
- defense pvp tier list
- CA tier list
- rookie tier list
yeah I'm actually getting CP gapped by these two so I can't do anything for the moment
you can't make a single unique pvp tier list, unless you're assuming a lot of things
I just got Rapunzel, shall she replace anyone? (and Maiden if she matters).
nope nothing to replace in there
Okies
Only SBS and mana
Btw since rrh and rh in the same team without other b 1, rrh gonna use b1. It's supposed to be that way?
sg team wont last, ein and rei.... lol
tbh id cope for more future cook with mana over those 4
ye that's fine, that team purpose is just to gap
you can move rh in p3 and rrh in p4 to get more damage out of your RH B3, but it exposes you to vestiTU, assuming opponents even have her
SG is SG. Ein and Rei having CA entry all the time. Their usage became less after Vesti though.
Mana also had CA champ entry
SBS as well.
The S list is okay.
sbs is thx to natually high investment for earlier cheap options lol
you can take his sg, cindy, and besti team easy if he never shuffle 
what does sg or ca or clip sg mean?
Ah yes I was thinking that too, but I don't know about how newVesti works. I think only 1 or 2 people have her on my current top 10 leaderboard so I guess I'll move it that way.
Thanks again ~
the meta moves on though, now we'll see new cooks with nayuta I think and lib
prob a dumb question but how much stat increase does levelling OL equipment give? ive been just OLing the equipment and leave it at 0
Wow 3 are first rolls
300ish per lv for me... usuualy just raise dps helmet for a bit and maybe arms... credit is cd afterall
they're mostly just cp pad though I think she's an expensive unit you want good line 3 for those
so I'll need to full roll 2 of them
Could change p5 to Nayuta so Nero team doesn't lose to back shot Rosa.
main source of CP comes from dolls, affection, cubes and OL lines (higher lvl and multiple lines, the best)
skills and extra lvls on OL ofc also partially contribute
finally, cores
But then you can't 2nd fb
2 cs 3rd line now
Still beat scarlet even if so... Right?;
17% cs lol
that is why El King
afaik, prydwen's pvp is mostly atk pvp tier list
There's much to do no ele 
Who use Mana in attack?

- jackal siren scarlet trina drakeT
- rumani blanc biscuit cindy midhara
- moran noah helmT RH centi
ty
all in good time I suppose 
a good long time, so much to do on a lot of my units
even my pvp which I put a lot of stuff into I don't have the CS rolls everywhere that I want
I cooked something interesting. Almost used Pascal but Blanc always buffs him so had to pull out the good ol Pepper. Will use it for this CA just for the sake of trying out something new
I'm considering some new things as well for science and 🍿
New CA season just in time too 
Hmm any suggestions? I just made minor improvements to the old setup with nayuta and lib, don't have lapT or emilia
all teams look good, my only observation is for soda in p2... rather p4 for safety purposes against mirror scarlet/splashers
with the addition of vestiTU, you should consider p2 and p3 unsafe, especially for squishier/unlinked units
scar-soda main purpose is to have soda alive for B1 at 2RL, if she'd dead that team is worthless
So Trina in p2?
Either has to be Trina or soda there what other choices are there?
I was considering to have a scar jackal comp again but means vesti won't have I'm not sure
Can someone please help me refresh my SPA def teams? (CP sorted)
you're bursting with bisc and not nayu
Do we have Liber burst gen tier?
Yea I'm using nayuta as a blocker on the SG side should I?
16.8 (lower than xmaid)
Ogey tks boss
I mean imo I would've just put cindy p5 if you're trying to block sg
positioning is fine leave as is
Hmm oh yea I guess I should swap that I didn't think about it?
at least then nayu bursts
biscuit is long dead after 2RL in most use cases
even assuming for w/e reason biscuit doesn't die, an extra stack that can be used on rumani or to save cindy it's actually healthier
current def
Hmm then using biscuit safer in p4 then Cindy p5?
Nayuta on p3 also doesn't use biscuit stacks
Be very careful here so Rosa doesn't rip invincible off Nayuta
ohh that's a gamble after mihara should be nayuta
@shell hazel any new cooks?
Normally SG team that has Rosanna in that case she can be sniped during SG burst
No she won't. But the dispel in skill 1
SG won't reach her if I put her in p3 so the indom would be handled by Cindy and rumani
Cindy+Midhara+Nayuta? That maybe nayuta got snipped
I'm changing to rumani, mihara, nayuta,biscuit, cindy
Ok
Yea if nayuta gets sniped biscuit can still burst to reach full burst I guess thats fine as long as rumani indom holds out
@rich ledge can Nayuta last long enough for slow Cindy?
Slow cindy bursts within 9 secs?
Mmm
Yes, the common slow Cindy are fine. Unless you go down to 6rl slow cindy
Could anyone help with cooking up attack teams against this? My bracket before the shuffle was dead and now I actually have to play again 😆 Have every nikke but cubes are pretty meh
The one I'm using is the common right? With a rumani
T1: Siren that Blanc then wipe it.
T2: 2rl Emi or Vesti. Or just SG his Noah. If he doesn't have enough CS siren work too. Ofc Soda also work
T3: just do a 2rl Noah+Biscuit.
good luck to me in new bracket
and give him my 500 def teams' taste
it's nothing but a stall
oh
Okay NVM, I looked on the wrong guy. You are 601+
621+
Well, if you in SEA we could still meet
sry uhh what should I fill team 2 with
Rossana and blanc
Emi+Vesti+Blanc+Drake+Rosa.
It's the same
Drake is better to kill Noah though but should he fine. 🤔
WLW
wow very weird
la+ still has HP ==
also Besti was surviving when I burst in blanc but didnt survive
spaghetti code
Maybe Vesti to p1 so she got Indom
these guys are very similar to each other for some reason, even in their doll choice
SR15 to biscuit and varying degree of SR dolls on jackal/rosanna at this sync
Is libe useable in arena? 
nah
Emi died before indom hits too
death Emi -> Besti -> la+
next time I try ti give u some vid kek
No one getting indom in yours team then.
You could
Scar+Trina+Centi+LapT+Siren on team 1.
Vesti+Emi+Blanc+RH+Jackal on team 2.
Vesti need to link.
emi and rh are mlb and core 5
Well, it's depending on the OL lines. My 0lb Vesti still link over my RH for example.
time to check
You could swap Emi and Centi maybe.
Nah can't. Emi gen too little
Comparing to Centi.
yeah emi and rh takes it
I do have some charge lines on some girls
Maybe XMaiden instead of Vesti if CP allowed
eh? besti stronger
Well, you would need to swap Rumani and Emi so Vesti linked.
oh
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Lib can be affected by OL C Speed
and cube + simulation buffs
T1
jackal vestiTU helmt blanc centi (vestiTU must've lower hp than jackal and helmT)
T2
skip or auto
T3
noah biscuit helmt laplaceT noise
Could also go like this
crown
Gonna try rapi b1 for the pure kek
Rumani instead of drake so you don't have to use too much quantum
Crown is equal to RH as a buffer
nah I don't I'm considering what I want to run myself, will be experimental again due to nayuta and lib being options, will be interesting to see how people use them
Could also use Ada if you had her built. She is better than crown or RH to buff Vesti here. So long as Ada isn't linked.
Well u see my set #pvp-arena message,bery traditional, nothing new much
My ada is my 4th highest CP. 💪
Consider I invested least than 50 rocks on her it's great
surely siren would be a better option than rapi
Bay? 
How do you have liberalio in that deck builder?
Got the memo
in the end she just can't be buffed by Alice
Updated dis morning
O
Team is still 2.5 RL with Libby. Why not just use Nayuta so you don't get back shot?
Also, Rosa p3, if Vesti shot at her then her nuke would be weaken
Vesti range hits up to t3?
Yes
I might finally be able to sleep in my SPA bracket for the next while 
When did you not. Always C2. 
always C1 or C2, but I had to fight for C1 against booba
That's sleeping. And chilling. 
having to fight != sleep
Eah ur whale shuffled out?
booba got isekaid
Fight that no one care
Does Lib need to be faster than RL 3 or is that fine
Need 4 of Synch 600 to push him out of CA.
seems like alot of people got into a better bracket this time?
it's rng probably add more whales next shuffle
I got people of newer server join my bracket
Hopefully I don’t get the other sync 600 that’s newer than me
its weird the older player bracket is easier than the newer player bracket
My rookie bracket got a 386 but he’s not threatening to me yet
narrator
and they never will be
Wow hippo is 433
If they sync faster than you do I’ll feel threatened soon nuff lol 
I got some cd on the nayuta gacha skin
I crated to catch you but u sync twice in a day what gives
Got switched into an even worse bracket, there's only a single guy below 2.5 bill above top 50 besides me 
And I'm at 1.9
Marian
I wonder if I could fit liberal into one team tho, is she just burst gen unit or bursting as well
Too busy bullet jumping
This has probably been answered 100 times but Discord search is horrible 🫠
What's the verdict on Liberalio for special arena?
Nayuta 
appreciate the help, but helmt is in both teams D: any replacements?
Hime you E6 Cyrene?
is ankle biting banned here 😭
The slow losing battle sigh
i'm not even rolling for cyrene
It’s bi te
Cyrene and her cone dropped in first 10 pull for me, but she takes forever to ult
cyrene 
eh I dunno lol. I got plenty of credit cases still but not much else. I'm just crating to 461 as soon as I can
hyacine, tribbie, and phai more important for me than her

I’m stuck 38-32 with no way out
Casto E2S1 | Hyacine E1S1 | Tribbie E1 | Cyrene E0
works good
I have 140 pulls left saving for 4.X stuff
@raven plover @keen vapor Idk why but I find this so funny
(This went on for 3 more bursts. On the third burst, scar revived and then Moran died before scar do a full burst)
can get her ult rolling pretty quick, in cycle 0
@umbral belfry gib me meth so i can get my lib high so atk lines can appear
wtf 
no
also i responded to the wrong msg
no
damn I need that too
how could u say no to sad cindy
I screen recorded the whole match and it ended off with a 2:50 video. 2:16 straight of whatever that was
good thing moran didnt solo those 3 
Rapu came in clutch
Rapu>>> Moran. 
rapu OP
I'm only 501 and I started 6-8 months before you guys. 

Get to 561
My fastest Kraken was a 1 sec sweep
too stronk
sorry i assumed you knew how to make an indom
helmT is a flex clip RL burst tier and your second linked unit
you can sub her for equivalent class nikke, e.g. drakeT or laplaceT or emilia
the point is to get to 2.5RL on enough to give vestiTU B2 at 2RL-2.2RL
you can use this to confirm you hit requirement
https://nikke-deck.web.app/
this is a very similar team, it assumes you gain enough from vestiTU CS% and jackal feed (minimun feed is 3%)
i assume you've at least 8%CS on vestiTU, that'd make you more than 2.2RL
which enables to hit B2 in time
give quantum to jackal, lappy and centi
similar flex clip RL tiers which can also easily get linked
xmaiden is a bit harder as she's defender unit so only use her if you really got no choice, run team in union shooting range if you unsure and you can check links (jumping jackal buff)
clip SGs also work in worse case scenario
the important condition remains:
- vestiTU must be linked
- she's lowest HP in the link
indom showcase for reference (in the vid, SBS is lowest HP in the link)
Only 30 levels advantage 
i caught up with him, he used to outlevel me
Huh
You can
It's your team anyway
I want to know if it's viable
DAMN thank you for going in depth on this, would actually take ages to figure this out on my own thru discord search lol. I'll have to get some rocks and credits to finish off laplaceT and vesti with proper builds since lib took everything I had, I'll give it a shot after ❤️
Oh wow
Hey rail is this beatable for me? Not with these teams, I just have them so you can see cp difference. I just got noise so she has minimal investment, and I don’t have Emilia
man i hate this SP shuffle, 3 players with +100 synchro than me got added to my bracket and im out of top 4 for good, still staying in top10 is a bloodbath now, can i bother someone asking his time and help properly updating my SP defense?
thx in advance, this are my units with their OL/CS lines etc https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtNTAxNDEyMjk3MDEwMjYxODE2&openid=MjkwODAtNTAxNDEyMjk3MDEwMjYxODE2
Anyone know how I can improve my sp arena team here? (Got a few new nikke in this anni)
Better to show ur full roster horizontal mode, via screenshots
Anyone got suggestions for champion arena teams ? First 20 units are fully build with ol gear both noah and eunwha got head piece ol
ithought blabla was easier since can use the filter option, and check like if the RL meets the CS lines etc
yeah CP wise speaking you're mostly in range, wouldn't go with those teams though
rail pased mirrior container 
Should be possible.
T1: Scar Trina 2RL
T2: RH + Liberalio (if invested) 2RL
T3: Skip
Its okay, cs lines dont matter too much
that's not how it works if you're without mmast
as in?
nayuta rrh cindy s.anis crown?
crown rrh cindy helm nayuta/sanis
Siren Jackal Trina Rumani Scar
Noah Centi Liberalio RH THelm
Blanc SBS/VestiTU Biscuit Drake Noir
What teams would work best?
then why i wasted so many rocks getting a lot of RLs and SR over 16% CS, first got told 1 thing then another 
Just 2rl scar trina, 2rl Liberalio RH 
you can try @quick lake's teams #pvp-arena message
Team building more impt than OL lines. No amount of stacked OL lines if ur teambuilding is wrong 
thx do you have 2 more teams for me i need 5 for champion arena would be much appreciated
Oh CA teams
Errr just copy for previous winners tbh
Scar/trina/siren/anis/jackal
noah/centi/liberalio/RH/THelm
skip
is that right?
yea my sp arena teams are already cooking the competition losing in champion arena is my problem
yea, can try those teams. Make sure u're within CP range. Team 1 Anis replace with a higher CP clipRL ideally
@heavy hearth if for w/e reason Rheax's teams fail, i'd go with this
keep it as plan B 
Can use those too 
i dont know why is easier to check screenshots than just use a filter in the website, but i guess this is my box (cropped first line heads a bit to fit 3rd line dupes) wont screenshot last group since those are forgotten SSR
so hows the jelly 
is girl faster than helm
@tropic summitcan you build me 3 new pvp teams, i have fallen out of challenger
SP arena
- jackal vestiTU drake blanc centi
- nayuta lib rh anis noir
- crown naga alice trina rmani
Notes
- wishlist noah, biscuit
- get helm treasured
xmaiden but nukes whole team instead of 1, also lethal on blanc's buff
thats pretty fast ngl
yes... but there's bad news 
sure post your box
can she whiff her atk? 
2RL lib is caught by 2.5RL noah... meaning it's actually very slow nuke
as for nuking power, she's decent, with blanc is generally lethal, without blanc may not be lethal against HP stack teams
think that shows everyone
can you also show your current 3 def teams for reference? so we can switch things up
wait i was missing some
blabla's CP is not correct, doesnt account for dolls etc
A lot of units built, can try different setups. Can refer to pinned teams for more variants
Soda Jackal Trina Rumani Scar
Noah Noise VestiTU HemT LaplaceT
Blanc Mihara Biscuit Rosanna Cindy
this is the lineups
lemme guess not as lethal as vesti? 
oh oke these can be upgraded
her DPS post B3 is weaker than vestiTU, her nuke although unlike vestiTU barely needs buffing
yh last time i changed this lineup was like 3 months ago, cause it was enough to stay in challenger lol
now im diamond 2 which i dont like
thanks, will try that, and yes, i did SR15 a lot of pvp units, attune their CS, and some even my jackal is 10/10/10 for CP pad
aight thanks, gonna go back maybe after a week again maybe someone cooked a team 
I think the best two teams in SPA are:
Scar Soda THelm Trina Rumani
Jackal Rumani VestiTU Blanc Noah
i dont get this 
my helm gloves was a pain to reroll since got that black ele on first line
pretty sure blabla's CP is fixed now and has doll + cube + recycle
Thank you. I’ll try to hit him before reset. Thank you to rail as well
is fixed now for me
oh isit? damn okk
100% accurate
Still like looking at screenshots 
but you can't really fit blabla's screenshot anyway
cuz their web page doesn't have landscape mode
so it's basically like looking at mobile portrait 
SP arena
jackal siren scarlet blanc bsoda
naga centi cindy emi rh
noise noah helmt biscuit pepper
Notes
-improve CP on noise
-wishlist rumani, trina, vestiTU
-get laplace treasured, can consider drake treasure
i already beat similar versions of both teams 
for scarlet team i used team 1 = noise and noah get stun, siren stun scarlet so helm burst to my cindi decoy, then cindi wipes
for the vesti team,, this team 2 was working, was slower so his blanc ended first
I miss my Gemmer... This guy teams doesn't have much testing value.

My SpA and Rookie all dead for testing team now...
MF that's a campaign team 
still waiting for 1 more copy for lap treasure, drake is treasure
it's like you took an hamburger and someone added a leaf and called it a vegeterian burger
Yeah. It requires specific counters if ur opponent knows them 
the guy kept moving his units around, so i kept a record on how i beat every variant so i didnt had to memorize all 

but yeah, pretty much the cindi-jackal and a slower blanc with revive beats everything
Ultimately, all defence teams can be won 
just be 2x everyone's CP, then they cannot win 
Waos
Surprised slower Blanc works here. Should be decimated by VestiTU by right 
yeah, im in the jp server, lost my top 3 with the 3 new whales, and have new people hitting me now, thats why asked to change my defense
Rapun should die first no? 

biscuit and sbs dies
but i need to make sure biscuit actually dies, or she takes blanc indom
thats why on some variants i p2 biscuit
or even p1 my scarlet
and if there is SG in the other team i have to p5 centi
the team with "x" i didnt figure out how to beat 
either required a unit that also needed on my other team, or just burned out coz back from work etc
no, indom Vesti loses to slower indom if you can't wipe
How can Vesti not wipe 
I hope my CN whale would wake up from his hibernation and help me tag team this whale like the old time.... This guy too lazy now. I remember he was 20 level above my CN whale but he is 20 level below now...
indom vesti can actually also be stalled, we took care of that with @shell hazel
rumani trina biscuit helmt noah
she will wipe, minus the enemy on indom, just keep blanc alive enough to proc it
thats why biscuit as usual is the biggest enemy
buys your blanc a few seconds
I think less stalled we just nuked Vesti as they weren't 2RL 😄
Hmm that's true 
we never kited with rumani and biscuit? oh maybe it was xmaiden indom after vestiTU got nuked
nah we just sniped vesti before she could indom
Hmm idk. 2RL Vesti still seems hard to crack
worked 100% of the time
right different example then
noah flex flex biscuit helmT to stall on p1 and survive nuke?
For 2.5RL biscuit indom, wouldnt 2RL Vesti just wipe the slower team first? Less the invuln defender
Wouldnt HelmT just die from Vesti's nuke? idk 
Time to retire from pvp 
assuming this match, this should work:
nah you need both biscuit stacks on single p1 defender
why mirror indom, actually solve the issue
i don't remember the above tested tbh
As in, when we're fighting against 2RL Vesti
ye the team above is 2RL
we failed to out-stall even with rapunzel and single def p1 with helmT
it was a few weeks ago, remember the popcorn 😄
that was when xmaiden was broken
nah was after, more recent
right team is 2.5rl vesti no?
your whel never set a 2RL vestiTU remember
Ada is my 3rd highest CP now...
he only had 2.5RL
wasn't against my whale you were looking at someone elses comp
vesti promotes the team to 2RL via CS%
Vesti is never true 2.5RL even without cs, her consecutive shots land way before 2.5RL
Hmm just giga out heal vesti ig 
it didn't work at least one the one I saw
you can't outheal Vesti if it's buffed unless the Vesti is not invested
my new sp arena enemies are so weak i had some unbeatable guy named master who cooked my whole team
you will get 100-0 in 2 missiles even with Noise burst
i actually have video of vestiTU promoted to 2RL
Nero Moran might survive 1 volley but not 2
lemme just share
indom mirror is not that hard to win, most people have high CP Rapi 
@tropic summit this one sensei
#pvp-arena message
the only time you don't win is if it's high sync and CP gap
ye wrong one, needs a noah p1 + biscuit p4
What is your highest CP rail?
Give me the real number. 
482 
i didn't open boxes yet tho, add a 20k CP to it
my highest is HelmT at just over 200K with a cube on
What's your Resilence level now? 15? 
@quick lake vestiTU CS% promoting to pseudo 2RL
I still can't decide Resilence or Tempering first. 
still 11, i could upgrade it now that you mention it
yep yep. Forgot about the cs% part oops
Why only 11? You upgraded tempering?

my only core max still
tempering is 10
Tempering
Why would you lv15 resilience
Changing route?
Make it 11 first before coming back for Resilence. 
blood went the pve main route
Resilence for more campaign for more CP for SpA. So I could get to CA. 
i'm getting tempura to 13 before I come back for resil I think, or at least I'll 11 then see...
couild just get both to 11 and go from there

even quantum can do it if it's for campaign
tempura is 10 and resil is 9 atm
You are day one play that gem claim x4 everyday
You could auto hard mode right now. 
U should 
wipe out 4x per day is what real shikikans do
wipe out 11x a day
also I don't get SSR when I do pulls apparently so at least I get some benefit from using my gems 😄
there was someone selling some ice soup - maybe I should get some
or you can wipe out 11x a day and then go for a ride in your Lamborghini, there are those people too 
I think I would have to max out my maid mast if I were to go for tempering first. 

Any water nikke would be much lower cp
are you discriminating? i didn't raise such a bad person 
Skill issue actually 
mandatory gif
Yes if the stat is proper but unfortunately no
I can do the 1st one but where is my lambo?
with your parallel universe you
No
Tell SU to give more reso
a universe where the amount of money you spent on nikke went to the lambo instead @shell hazel 
they don't give more resources to those who discriminate against water code nikke 
the one who bought/mined a bunch of BTC? 😮
I don't think it would get even one lambo wheel tbh
I did this when i got near the reshuffle but couldn't lv up in time

average whel probably spends 6k-10k per year, yeah won't be enough to get a lambo as nikke will EoS in a few months
I prioritize electric so I discriminate all other elements
throw stones at this heretic 
of all elements the most meta, you meta slave
hey rail i need your opinion on an attack
am well under that, bigboi spends more than me 
@hollow lagoon then there's this man that can spend for the entire pvp channel 
zanta probably like 30x my spend 😄
sure share
jesus chirst the CP 
yep
T1 1861: ok with ur current
T2 1910: RIP
T3 1635k: ok with ur current
Dair fighting at dairficit again 😄
now in terms whether they work...
I mean round 2 always wins anyway when he does a team like that
you'll be dropping vesti to 10-15%ish HP, which may be enough to be killed by nayuta but you need to be faster than blanc
t2 might win due to vesti true damage 
T3 looks maybe doable
T1 is longer indom against their dumb ass slow team, looks good
if T2 is guaranteed, T1 and T2 look very good
T3 is kinda iffy on CS%
I was kinda worried viper would kill alice
she's linked no?
yes she is
@swift mango LWW
team 1 siren died
team 2 VERY VERY VERY close
besti nearly didnt get to burst and die
although you also getting ele weak link hits from mihara and rrh
your link gonna be screaming in pain
sbs alice temperance, jackal quantum, lock in and yolo
Didn't have enough dmg for behemoth... Probably need 521. 
where's your mmast
cindy p1 
he's pve main
Siren p5 died? 
he doesn't know pvp at all 
unbelievable 
yup
reshuffle still bricked?
How? 
2 vulnerable team
as vulnerable as your back
rapipi p1.. viper p2?>..
I see what he's trying to, do
cp gap I guess
dair is playing a whole different game, essentially masochism
Show the report at least. They didn't have any SG. 
How the heck p5 died?
she died to your scarlet s2 from across the game
I'll leave him alone when he leaves me alone 
its blanc emi rh rapu drake
oh yeah I didnt get to burst so rh was revived? or was it emi
oh hey, what is that silly fire code SG gonna do to a silly wind code siren 

must be the wind
You need quantum on all 3 of your RL for that team to be 2rl. There is a risk of scarlet dying but you are same synch.... Just put Tempering on her.
imagine if you invested in those pvp units 
btw rail, on round 3 that was winning because his vesti was in splash range of Emilia. not sure idle rosanna kills or not. but nayuta will be healing from helm burst so nayuta at least will still be around with full hp probably
bro im trying
O wonder why
I just threw 40 rocks at vesti

I didn’t had quantum on Trina, I had tempering cuz I thought she would die
I didn't have enough dmg for Behemoth ...
did she get 4 black lines out of those?
she got black ammo
also more attack and ele lines
wew
Where's vid
Maybe 1 more Ele for Cindy is needed. 
yes but mmast doko
Or 521
I didn't record it because i was attacking from phone and I have never screen recorded from phone
Maid mast and no healer. No healer vs behemoth = suicidal
Ada...?

just gotta iframe
easy iframable gatling guns 

but basically what happened is vesti and the other b3 got nuked. noise got indom and I was just healing through it all with everybody alive besides anis
I can't Iframe on phone.
Right
Even if 20-25deficit is clearable, you won't clear it until you get a good stat
that sounds like a YOU issue 
If I could Iframe I would burst with Ada all the time instead of HelmT and clear it easily.
I now g2g so if any of you @ me i wont be around for like a couple hours
retro would be able to do it 
i need halp with dis dude
He played on Ipad not phone actually. But sure. 
Lib and nayuta
theyre bad in pvp no?
no
I only really started playing a few weeks ago (I did make the account to get the crazy looking elegg and stopped immediately but started again when i saw the resident evil thing) so i dont know what to do with this. I looked at the sites but I miss a few key characters so i cant figure out the best teams i can make for PVP cause I just dont know well enough. Anyone able to help me figure out my best teams for SP arena? and my best team for normal arena?
need to cook with CP in the equation so gonna need your box
should i send my blabla?
screenshot highly prefered
Well at least Vesti helped me clear this stuck stage
Tf you cant
SP arena
- jackal vestiTU blanc laplace anchorIM
- noah naga rrh drake rapunzel
- auto
Notes
wishlist biscuit, rumani, centi, cinderella, scarlet, vestiTU
get helm treasured asap
get your teams reviewed once the above are ready
Learn
also do you think this guy is beatable? hes rank 13 so a bit higher but i think maybe cp could be a problem
T1 needs 1144k
T2 needs 1137k
T3 needs 1119k
T1 skip
T2 noah biscuit cindy helmt rumani
T3 jackal sbs laplaceT blanc centi
T3 notes: SBS must be lowest HP between jackal and laplaceT, confirm this information before running (can give vigor to laplaceT, keep quantum on jackal)
2 of their teams need 1.3kk, better pass
post the match up above so we confirm CP, then ensure you've the HP requirements on SBS, after that you're good to go
sbs hp is between jackal and laplaceT thats good right?
SBS needs to be the lowest, else you misindom
Hey rail when you get a chance, I cooked up a potential new team for CA with liberalio if you wanna take a look
hmm then its not low enough she has higher hp than laplace
Ill wait til youre done with zheroe
ok fix laplaceT with vigor
how far different is their HP?
check now RRH and laplaceT
still higher
tysm!! i did auto for team 3 and got this
also i set the wishlist up and am aiming for that helm treasure yeah.
Gear lvls
ok i think with lappy and RRH and vigor in the equation might be good
should i upgrade laplace armor?
His sbs is maxed 5's with lap at all 0's
Max the chest piece first
Check before continuing
now just confirm jackal has more HP than RRH and SBS
rapi has lowest hp now
oke so you can indom on RRH
and yeah jackal has more
try and record that team 
oh
we need to correct cindy team actually
with lappy open you can make a proper sustain team
this is the match up
oh okay
any temp/quantum cubes?
noah temp
biscuit vigor
helmt any
lappy any
noise vigor
jackal quantum
rrh temp
sbs temp
blanc vigor
centi quantum
post it one more time with these updated then probably good to go
ok you're in range with both, you can run them
record so we can see what happens in T3
🍿
omg it was soooo close
ok... you better fix your lappy so you can run SBS indom next time 
as for your T2, emilia getting indom wasn't expected, they've CS%
LMAOOO ok ill upgrade her
ahh i see
assuming no CS%, at best they'd be 3RL since you don't feed
but emilia on 21% CS is a different story
yeah i got nuked so hard thank god i bought 3 noah cores from the shop yesterday LOL
fortunately your biscuit applied another stack in time to noah or you'd be fried
but i dunno how consistent that is
next time we'll just run a slower team that ensures scarlet gets indom, easier to kite
ok bet imma upgrade my lappy
ye get her HP high enough she passes SBS would be lovely
RRH unfortunately kinda struggled with their noise + rapu + nayuta sustain
meanwhile SBS will bypass and distribute
i see yeah my sbs is very strong so it would work better
so what's the real liberalio burst gen?
and where can I use the table?
the table and website I used before are not up to date 
hmm so i upgraded my lappy but her hp is still lower than sbs my sbs is just too stronk LMAO
well if her HP got closer a vigor cube might be enough
can test it out in rookie if you get the chance
Bas7ial put her at below clip sg
who
I treat her like x.maiden
that's pretty low 
16.8% with delayed procs
"who"... the maker of this https://nikke-deck.web.app/,
hmmm im in team formation but her hp is still lower with vigor on lappy
vigor is applied upon entering, won't see it here, might see it in shooting range
if you have enough cs you can change her 2.5RL timing but I don't think you are gonna use her on 2.5RL team, so realistically expect to build around her only getting 1 bullet in
ohh i see
but ye 4.9 against 5.1, with vigor might do, check in union shooting range 
and she can snipe p5 with wind code 
Yay, kill... uh...
well most iron are kinda tanky 
the squishiest one is Lap?
I don't think anyone puts RH p5
She aint killing jackal
imagine if someone was to put their single B1 or B2 in p5 
I don't see Nayuta, when will he update the website?
why you asking me?
because you know him, I never heard of him
do i wait till burst?
no it's applied upon entering
ohh yes lappy has 5.3 now
LETS GOOO 
if he beats me again ill try that team, thanks for the halp!!
@placid bloom u got the units for slow cindy 👀
yeah but I don't think it's tanky enough to hold, at least against Caius
against the rest of them it's probably okay
an update is available and finally got nayuta on the list
u can take my spot
nah it's okay
but how can we test then 🥺

Im trying this cope t5 for CA
she has less burst gen than Siren 
that better be 2.5RL
Lmao no
because liberalio hits the enemy at 3.5RL with that
Brother my lib has 1 overload
in fact slightly later than 3.5RL
nuke at 3RL hits at 3.5-3.7RL
...good luck 
My new slow cindy
may I ask for help with SP def teams please
Maybe ill get lucky and they'll use a dps that gets stuck on nayuta
5 attacking sg
@tropic summit this is the team i was thinking
wind code in p1, daring today are we
The humble useless trina
well i guess there's rapunzel at least
still kinda mid, because lib damage post B3 is meager compared to alternatives
have to keep the team alive 
well I will hit Shiro first on reset and see how much movement there is on the bracket, I need to test attacking Lib into your team too 
As long as shes alive she should nuke any unprotected team
Bar nero moran
sure just lmk when u wanna hit and I can change teams
would be nice to get some last minute tests in before CA
SP arena
- jackal siren scarlet trina draket
- noah biscuit lib rosanna sbs
- noise rumani helmt bsoda bay
Notes
- consider treasuring laplaceT
if your team isn't dead at 2.5RL or 2RL
bay needs to burst to give you nuke resistance
thanks, its just I can't acquire a copy of lap for lb2
Well shes my only b2 so should be no issue there
what happens to bay 3RL
keeps evading
oh the other team is fine
Yeah ik my 3rl team sucks
i wouldn't waste an helmt and lappy for that copium though
throw in a moran or a noise and then it gets better
Where's the waste
le wild pascal and single B1 noise
well he's in p4 might work
Tf you mean solo b1
what can I use here?
tvesti indom t1, cindy noah t2?
ye pascal will live in p4 i guess 
what a glorious sight to see waking up. 
is soda linked?
Nope
Hey I know that guy
@shell hazel @hollow lagoon @nimble swan lads I need an airlift into one of your brackets pronto, I can't deal with this chaos, it's been a dolphin civil war since this guy crashed the enclosure
holy shit
T3 is the most tedious, T2 with what you running is fine if you can facetank it, T1 looks fine if you're at least 2.5RL and indomming vesti
Ope, they banned the sewerslide word
This is NA right?
yea 
Yeah he used to be in my bracket
now change defense once and he's gonna tilt again 
you would like my bracket yes
good idea! got any suggested comps?
Then who is my key?
his little brother
Cuz i have a key who does the same shit

Key was the reason I was rank 1 in rookie without attacking the whole season
Anyone have a slow Cindy with similar sync they can test on, need built Nero and libby
@cunning crown lol

but ur gonna have to deal with this thing in my bracket idk if u would lik that
the CN horde in mine is busy dinking each other for now but I just know they'll find a common enemy in me before long
eitherway minus T5 and T1, other teams look good, just pray those two don't bump into SG teams
T1 should be safe actually, i have both backup b1 and b2
u be fair u can prob easily obliterate the 2nd place
Just gotta pray vesti lives rosa
SGs dig through p1 and p2 within 2.5RL and snowball to finish you off
p5 and p4 are very likely to be deleted
p1 and p2 won't survive ele weak, vestiTU is also your solo attacker, meaning p1/p2 will also need to tank 1 nuke from rosanna
@oh shit that's chris the urber whale
the one that i have nightmares about
please dont come to my bracket pleaz
dinked him for science and just insta deletion on all teams, feels great 
if you're lucky you've better chances if defending than attacking i guess
if you're attacking, that team will be melted
what is his sync anyways
this is very likely, i doubt your bracket has 40%+ rosa, SR15 and with some crit
Only me silly
let's hope so 
if they all have your kind of rosanna, you'll be fine
Nah im kidding, mine is only sr5
538, pumping those irons
rough life
What do you mean
My rosa is strong
4 atk 2 crit 7 10 10
in which universe
they grow up so fast 
bigboi now has a family, kids, multiple wives... 
he even has a SR15 rumani 
Anyone have similar sync slow Cindy to test on
The reshuffle destroyed my SP rank. But worse than that, they took @keen vapor away
Now I can't even bully Echo
The horror

at least you're a bigger fish than the other fishes
Don't worry, someone else will booli chimecho for you
trust in the invest 
@keen vapor how's your new bracket
how did you get this bot?
ive sadly had this guy for 3 reshuffle. dude doesn't stop until he sits at the top rank below the hyper whales. the bracket was bullying him lately. he spent 2200 crystals to beat me once. 
@keen vapor they're adding your mega form 
You can't do worse than me
you beat higher level whale
What
never seen this coming @unique mountain
Yea i saw that on reddit as well
Chimecos is its name
Change yours to it
it's the first thing I thought of
It has Abathur, and XP learned PVP
Not good, not worse I think
MegA Chime's Echo 
@bitter cipher what do you think
If you're a slave of dax I'll stop asking you
He's friend 
What am I even looking at?
My mega shinka 
I envisioned a giant kisama, I am severely disappointed
You never played Pokemon 
I watched it….
-# Over 6 years ago
Mega Kisama can't be a giant
She remains chibi 
Time to create the shrink ray from grounded

@violet spoke are you on Check's bracket?
Yea
Tempesto? 
Top 3 doesnt seems possible for me anymore and still have hero in my bracket
Oh
gemmer
Brutal

How that did happen
@hoary maple what was your current def, who hit you? A big whale?
My top 4 didn't change after reshuffle 
LF ppl with similar sync slow cindy and/or moran noah helmt rh noise in brackets that they can test on
man booba man is prob so thankful the days of being smacked around by a 434 is over
@tropic summit its fine to put tempering on jackal for that team right?
she has quantum on
433 (for like an hour lol)
the real smackdown was happening when I was 30 sync less 😄
so in 1 more hour u be 434
1 hour
ye shouldn't need tempering
i've mixed feelings reading this sentence from you
I'm at 15.39 with qunatum on jackal and tempering on alice

bro legitmately syncing faster than me 
lately it's the pack and the gacha skin that was like 200 core dust crates
otherwise it's just usual wiping out some extra and such
that deficit is very close lol
Chat can I hit 520k team with a 400k team
anyone else's brackets just suddenly got whales that are higher level than the whales that were already dominating the bracket?
That was the shuffle, affected some people more than others
Anyone here tried a noise boosted cindy againts a 34.5% deficit will it do enough damage?
ik it got shuffled, but it never got shuffled this badly before
I won againts 30% but this leviathan is something else getting this much cp in 1 week
round it up to 1862k to avoid funzies
Rail i wanna try hitting one of my rookie whales, im running noise noah vesti against trash campaign team. You think 23% is doable?
U need Biscuit
Hmm, if I drop noise my cp drops
Noise wont tank it. Noah Biscuit can
Yeah try the one im using noah biscuit cindy thelm noise
You also need to boost vesti
I leveled alice boots to 3 so its .36 now

how long is the delay in lib nuke?
1.3s
1.1-1.3 sec
wow really long ok thanks
Ive seen multiple answers, havent actually checked frames myself
Build your campaign
is your priority PvP or campaign
if you are pushing campaign you should be building RH
for campaign i am on black snake with manchor/mmast siren crown rrh thelm siren
can moran empty her mag before 2rl?
i don't think those 4 help with black snake really
what about hard mode
18
RH is big boost there
Rh could help
ok so RH and scar?
you have Trina?
ye
then you can work on Scar after
Campaign first, then pvp
yeahh but lib will not help in campaign right now probably
Lib wont
I don't think there's any wind weak stage for a long time
if you are s6 already it's whatever
I dont think theres any wind weak bosses even

I was expecting 42 to be wind weak
also by the time you get to it, you shouldn't have too big of a CP deficit after taking down 22 Nihilister
i have some resources so i should be fineee, thank you
Whale
I get to run bready again in campaign, im excited
well your goal atm is to push your way to ch20 HM for 2 extra cd/h
might be walled there for a bit
Big is here @tropic summit
I'll never touch C3
Two hundred 
echo banned from CA

i hate this mechanic so i avoid it...
Sad but true 
everyone is 400kk+ and then there's you 300kk 
PVP powers 

time to check if i was hit
surely i can't be ch1 the whole day
i smell a snipe from miles away 

time to change teams 2 minutes before reset 
i knew it 
I'm waiting 13 minutes 1 second to snipe you 
Need to push campaign again 
Looks tough 
I got some old buddies back

