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2 and 3 look OK I think - my version 1 is going to die horribly due to low cp
we'll need to drag some cp over from 3 to 1 if you want to run my teams 😄
My comp needs investment, you can't run it for now
Need to invest Jackal fr
yeah
she'd be my priority here of the 5 I mentioned
plus you can use her in any team rookie or spa
I'm gonna miss this bracket just chilling
The units I haven’t built yet are around 20k CP each.
show the cp with the new teams I sent please we'll see how it looks
also can you screenshot what people near you have in SPA?
#pvp-arena message
Frfr
I think they gave up trying to to fight u
my whale has quit trying to beat me this season they gave up lol
that looks OK but we need to see how the competition is for CP as well
Nah they're chill especially whales
invest a bit in jackal please (R-15 ready for SR-5 jump with purple doll) and 4/4/4 skills + basic OL
I meant like ranking list in SPA for total cp
they're running some cp pad there as well
oh you're 3rd looks fine to me
you'd be 487
but you've not had the 201 jump yet for cp
much back and forth but I think they realised I'll just always get it back no matter what they do 😄
Let me adjust the gear and cubes to see how much I can raise the CP
reshuffle after this SPA reset but it's not impossible you don't get shuffled much
getting sync 201 should be your main focus for now, puts you properly in range of 1 and 2 and secures 3 better, plus presumably you can push more campaign then
I wish my whale where that chill
How do you get into CA?
top 4 
You know most #pvp-arena resident already won CA at least 1 time
Already gave up CA since I'm not that good at cooking teams
I wanna know how to get in, im trying to make in there as well but idk how
literally answered 10 secs ago 😛
Nah im low-key slow idk where that is
what is your SPA rank?
4th currently
well there you go, top 4
That all? Just be in top 4
final rank top 4
the mail you get at the end of the season with your rank is the one that counts
stuck at top 6
Thought there was more to like I had to sign up somewhere
you can't snipe 4th position just before season end and expect to qualify for it
but if the mail with the gems you receives says you were 4th or better you get into CA
Nice Ty( I think I’ve been top 4 the most this season)
Top 1 is a 🐳
Top 2 has a rival
And people seem to ignore me at Top 3
Top 1 and 2 are always whales in most
Servers idk why
Well, after some adjustments, the team’s a bit better now
201 sync easy adds +30K cp or so
spenders + prestige
my top 3 like I showed isn't really possible without spending something I think
all 3 of us nearly same cp
Unless I go all in on whaling im never gonna beat my top 1-2 i should beat top 3 with better teams soon
I would like to join this arena lobby 
don't have to mega whale to be efficient
not much of my spending gets me more levels, is mostly for pulls/skins and things
but I do get the 10 core dust crates per day and I wipe out extra times as I get gems from SPA and the daily gems
min commit for that is $20/month
Is it worth tho
depends on your circumstances
I guess I oled centi today to give her like a 30k cp boost but besides that
well any f2p can ol centi or w/e
but you can't keep up with someone that easily who buys more stuff
That's 4 less rocks for libe, but it came from surface final quest so it's fine
basic OL is the best value improvement anyway
I'm wayyyy too much behind to do anything in arena so I'm just sitting at like diamond 4-2 rn
I don't have lots of bills or debt or anything so I can afford to literally throw some money away on this game and other gachas or new games monthly
but I say some - I have limits lol
Don't worry I throw money at this game, it's just poor management of cote dust so I'm way too much behind to ever be able to catch up
steady progression and discipline can help you catch up
Top 4 is lvl 520 I'm lvl 390
yours is a slower progress perhaps than it could be, even if I wasn't buying anything for levels I think I'd still be 400 in a year
I'm 429 atm
but +29 of those probably came from buying stuff 😄
I don't know how I do that, but I kinda maintain between this and diamond 4
you stockpiling crates or something? how is your campaign progress?
I just didn't buy boxes and bought tries from events for more than a year
Finished main campaign and I'm chapter 27 hard
27% deficit
this is what I do:
1 - never skip dailies or events for resources. outpost never maxes at 100%
2 - wipe out free + 50 + 70 + 100 daily
3 - $5 gem pack and $15 resource pack always rolling. either 10 cd or bd crates per day (usually cd)
4 - always buy all event tries only when hard mode unlocks, and use on whatever I need the most between cd/bd (usually cd)
5 - limited re-roll on daily dispatches, I select which ones to keep and roll the rest, max 1 or 2 times depending.
the wipe out cost is high but I get +100 gems from the daily gem pack and SPA is 3000/2 weeks so they kind of pay for themselves
Even with all this I don't think I'll catch up to the whales above, so I'm chilling in d2 without any invest now
nah you may not catch the top ones, but people quit, or slow down etc, if you keep a steady pace it can help
obv 3 requires spending. if you don't then you can still wipe out say free + 50 each day instead
I'm one billion behind the closest to my level so 
is all relative
I don't think most are that good at min-maxing
this is just routine stuff I do, if a whale comes along and buys cd each day I can't stop them and I won't try to keep pace
I don't buy daily/weekly cd packs
Nayuta does help a lot
Whaling 
🐋
Swipe the card little bro dont be scared
go for the resets
New account time?
Why would I do this and leave behind 40 skins and multiple C7
Oh ur diamond 2 ur fine
I got diamond 2 after getting nayuta
I get $9/day in interest equivalent
some cash here means nothing much
that’s the spirit go rule the sea king I believe in you🐋
hardly ruling the sea 😄

@hollow lagoon is + 100 sync on me and started after me 🐳
U lie
prove it! :p
prof
U have dust crates ur just not using
I really do not
Meanwhile I don’t
I have none
Prove it
Yeah prove it
@hollow lagoon I think you bad spot now that he proved it
Why is there
No I can still prove he lies
Nothing
Why is it so empty
It’s simple, I’m not +100, I’m + 101
If you called that empty what would you call mine?
I use everything
I've seen people 🧱 accounts with hoarding
They're....they're so empty

Bricking account is bad
How is it bricking, I've pushed like 3 hard mode chapters and 150 tower levels in less than a week
Why use it before
So ur stuck?
Nah, I keep pushing
Well then ur still bricked
lamo
Nu huh
Yuh uh
Yup
Imagine getting less core dust
I have to keep things for liberalio
Imagine
U keeping coredust for liberiano?
Nah
How does that work
I'm keeping core dust for when I clear 27 and if I don't manage in 3 days I'ml use them
I have like 110 rocks
What does 3 days have to do with clearing 27
I have 6
Arbitral limit
0 gang?
If I don't manage, it means I'm too low lvl
He’ll ye
Then increase ur level
Give it 30 tries if u can’t go pass then increase sync
Why not increase your lv before hand?
Then pass it and repeat
That's what I'm doing 
No brick
🧱
Can't be bricked if it already was before
Brick^2
Double brick
Everyone active in my server is 70+ lvl above me
Get 70 levels above them
Become the god emperor
Jk, I think 20 level is healthy
Otherwise you can’t even test PvP comps, you just perma stuck stealing comps for ca like I do with @tropic summit and @shell hazel
Well
I ask rail for advice and I yoink from hippo
Used everything, got 2 lvls
2 levels is 4k cp, now go win it
I'm like 27% deficit wdym 
27% on what?
Hard mode
Of?
27
27-14 /27-15
Now that y’all talking about hard mode
I got reminded in will need to fight Mother Whale and Glass Slippers again
Fun? you using the wrong F it’s Frustrating
2k cp was the difference 
I don 25% deficit mw so much at this point idk it’s just whatever
My first time on normal mode mw I had to use crown + noah burst 
After u been thru tetra/Missilis tower whales kek frankly mw when u have full roaster available is just… whatever
If only I had one
I want the blue surface one but I killed half my roaster on trying to do the boss on mobile
Now I’m stuck doing necromancy till beta end
Same now I have to wait 20hr
Mw on tetra 💀
How fo you even pass that
Probably less bad now with bunny milk
True 
Distributed damage wip thous adds for days
The only dead one is Crow and it was me the one who shot her
Well, after the 2k cp I can auto hard mode again
Yay
And then u hit 27-24

But u prob get 1-2 outpost levels before that so it was worth regardless
Man how does one pass 38-32
Try praying before you start the fight
Wouldent help
I rolled one of my chargespeed lines on Cindy into a crit rate
Lost 9k cp
Or was it 5k?
Basically it’s like I didn’t sync up for the last couple days
I think I need 1 more atk line or ele line to kill mirrior container

Man I want the title
But I feel like I need to max level rouge and sanis gear or something
Either that or roll my Cindy better
Neither option is appealing
Hard mode?
AI
if something can be killed with just syncing up i wouldent bother rolling so hard lel
newbabies be quiet
Lost the surface boss battle. 3 days of healing 
I realised you can just alt-f4 if you die 😄
usually sets you back a little but hey better than being dead
He was like 5% hp so I just said all or nothing
it was nothing
ye learned this like yesterday
Yeah, I failed once with 2 squad. Then next time I went in with 3 squad I just quit app. 
Get to synch 601
bruh i'm 530
just do it
Crow lover
Blue it with 2+ MG
You shot her preg.
is wipeout worth it? i only reroll daily dispatches that is more worth it that wipeout overall?
I think so, over time, it's better value on the first ones ofc
but every day I get +8 hours of resources where free is only +2
so 6 extra, in 30 days that is 150 extra hours of resources
The first one worth it. 70 maybe. 100 nope
hmm the event are 20 boxes for 100 gems, this is 2 boxes for 50 gems
the ultimate ftp is to reroll dispatch once-twice, almost never a lose-lose situation because it's either boxes or gems back + better maintenance cases/doll boxes
yea for me i reroll and take all the core boxes and 20 gems and above only then reset until 5 open slots
it is a more coredust oriented roll i guess
guys my team to good to to arena ???
Check this first
It's actually 3.5 hours if you counted credit and Bd as 1/3 of core dust.
So 7 vs 20 per 100 gems. Ofc Event is better value but that's mandatory already. That 7 is extra.
You get basically 1/3 of events value at 50 gems claim. And 1/4.2 of event value at 70 gem claim. 1/6 of event value at 100.
And trust me you need that extra credit.
can anyone suggest me what I should change?
@polar echo just tag me or send me a dm, will be easier so you do nkt have to spend gems
im.mostly on discord than in game
We can’t see what the opponent is running if you take screenshot like that, it’s only showing 3 units
i mean for my defensive team
If that’s the case I’d prob say RHrapi
Raprapi? 
can you suggest me to whom? this is my sync nikke for now
it would be more helpful if i have to change the whole setup. i made this messy thing by myself
Do you happen to have vestiTu ?
my bracket hates me, I'm not even top 10 and they keep hard focusing me
I wonder if I should start doing my rookie fights a little later and snipe their spots instead
ah.. unfortunately no
i had to skip every Tu cause I didnt have enough gems for anni
Yes do rookie as late as you possibly can is the best
1 RL 💀
You can try Nayuta in the empty slot for idom
It is unfair to do that comparison
thanks
You can also swap Cin and HelmT positions if you like as well
so pos should be same for rest ?
Yea
ok
@deep kayak I made a mistake with Cin setup, sorry about that that,”.
thnaks. but whats that RL means ?
Rocket Launcher
i think I still dont get it. Ik rl means Rocket launcher but is it referring to burst gen here?
that % below it
metric of "speed" at which your units reach burst, lower RL = faster start of burst
it's counted in RL shots, so 3 rl means by when RL unit shoots 3rd time burst happens
Yeah 3rl team
What he said
Thanks. it makes it more understandable
yeah this has been my surface experience too

had to gigavax fodder nikke squads to fill out the map 
Needing help coming up with good teams for sp arena.

post your box with nikke ordered by strength and we can suggest you teams to run
Who needs good sp teams when you can just 💳
Which teams you can reccomend for PvP arena?
don't forget that being in synchro matters for this mode 😛
overpulling flora and pepper in my early game paid off. their healing p goated on the surface 
T1:
jackal siren scarlet trina sbs
T2:
noise noah helmt rapunzel laplaceT
T3:
blanc rh biscuit drakeT centi
Notes:
-wishlist/build rumani, vestiTU, cinderella
One day I’ll get base Scarlet, one day🙂↕️….
because my bracket knows what to do
So does mine now
we all hit each others once or twice a day, lost that one chinnit idiot that ran 5 attempts everyday and it's now a peaceful life
My shuffle put me with my homeslice, but it also put me with a leviathan and another whale
dude's getting jumped
not worth it, in fact you may aswell just do that on the last 2 days
rest of the day you can get your 5 clears done against w/e is on top then piss off to actual games
yea I always do all my dailies after reset
@tropic summit hear me out,i can easily win T3 with noah/biscuit/sbs/thelm/rumani
And i decided to go against T1 too,but with something different. If i take the top 5 most powerful units, Tbay/cindy/alice/naga/rapirh i have 959k cp and put my ENEMY in the deficit,would it work?
Did i cook or i cant put enemy in to deficit when i atk in pvp?
T1 is not in deficit, that's 12,7%
deficit starts at 15.4%
or you mean the 959k? then ye it's deficit
deficit will probably win against that T1 ye
How? My team is 959816,his is 726857. Does deficit calculated different when attacking?
LETS GOO
I did in the order of Tbay/rapirh(b1)/cindy/alice/naga,good?
considered he's always on the other side of the coin, sometimes winning on deficit for this lad is actually a miracle
Nah,its improvement,ask rail,im putting enemy into deficit for the first time


Well,it still is a way to win
Never thought you would see this coming huh
Im actually putting enemy in deficit,ill also do some rumble T2 tho
@shell hazel looks like whel hunting season is back on the menu boys
that silly boy they told you not to worry about because you're 60+ levels ahead
is there any recommendation for cube? im using resi,bast, and quantum for now
@deep kayak
Tempering gave around 14% damage reduction, essential for frontliner and stall comp
Quantum for batteries
Adjutant for mixmax CS RL

good thing I'm f2p

@tropic summit in T2,he is RL 2.5 with 107.4 so i cant win if i try to outburst him faster cuz i dont have nikkes required to do a 2RL team,so im planning to do a team also 2.5RL but a slight less burst gen(100.4 to be exact) so his blanc indom can end before mine,and if i can make so i atk him constantly,i can delete his unit after the blanc indom faster than he could do mine,im thinking of forming a team with jackal/vesti/blanc/scar/centi to get that 2.5RL but just slightly slow,though i still didnt think about who to use her burst and how to position the team. Is my planing has open mistakes and can it work?
Also deficit checks in,none
so i should swipe my resi and bastion? they are at 12 and 10 . all the rest cube are at just level 5
ok got the other MF aswell @shell hazel i'm done 
f*k you and your money 
what's 80 levels difference 
sasuga
i must say the 3 sniper team was something fresh 
Not until you get Tempering to lvl 7-10 as well
thanks
You’ll lose out on cp if you swap right now
not SR-15 for shame!
one of the top UR union guys
risky
yeah but

show all their teams I'm curious
we're all f2p here

real
it seems my scarlet team is still weak. i flat out died. i also have sanis. should a keep maiden or switch to sanis?
eh who cares not like they can come and find rail in real life 😄
what were the teams, curious why you're essentially trying to mirror the opponent instead of outfoxing them
i have zero to none idea about pvp. thats y
ye he's in nikkunny
they ended up 5th iirc on last union raid in global
with the amount of money he spends on the game daily, may aswell be a major stakeholder
right, this will get rocks first time, trust
first attempt 
i generally start from the corners, then cross similar to yours
@shell hazel btw got to test this out, turns out it's actually 2RL
is there a tactic to minmax this?
also wonder if it's even possible to grab all the cells and all the major supply rewards, there probably not enough tickets right? 
vestiTU calculation on nikkeapp with CS% is accurate, assuming you're 15%CS
same speed scar-jack on natural 2RL i managed to B3 near same time
my issue with the 2RL-ness of a similar comp was I think when vesti killed too quick for p1-p3
no it's rng, you want to generally reset on getting the rock though
or resupply as the next one has rocks again
shikikan!
option 2 lol
oh ye if you get burst gen denied or whiffed that'd suck
saving stuff for lib though I've been naughty and spent stuff elsewhere, think I have enough skill books and such?

I think I can at least OL+0 on all 4 slots day 1
oh got sim 25 to do quick as well will add to my savings
for 10/10/10 should be, you need like 1000/700/300 per skill
I plan to build Ein for my own MC push later this year afterwards, and some of my supports like b.ade and rouge/dkw etc
collapse CP on
crown mmast ein cindy liter/RRH/siren
you're gonna need rotation of those for the most part, SBS even more so
SBS made my volleyballs easy peasy
actually rolling a few blue lines if you can will help you clear 461
my mmast is OK - I need to roll her overloads for cp pad
ein and cindy need massive ele atk% and atk%
aim for 30-40atk% and at least 60-70 ele atk%
my cindy is good, or at least reasonable. 45% atk 80% ele, one of my most invested units
don't bother throwing crap at anything else if you wanna realistically 461
I take, right? This is vesti
bad line 3 i wouldn't
you can take it but it won't be final if anything, kills your CP a bit aswell
then again maybe you get lucky and roll a good line 3 with a few wasted rocks
is a lot atk roll so would need further rolls to boost it
Ofc this happens the moment I roll without locking line 3
aye
that's something you learn once you've accepted that risk 1 or 2 times
ever since then i learned to say F that and get 1st and foremost a good line 3
yeah tbh I like gunning for good line 3 first especially on meta
but even if not it can be worth it, then you can accept good line 1 + line 3 and it's easy to improve later
it's either
good line 3
good line 1
or
good line 3
good line 2
or (on units like nayuta that only need atk and ele)
good line 1
good line 2
copium line 3
yeah indeed
I made the mistake of overvaluing ammo on nayuta
not that I spent a lot of rocks on her but I assumed ammo was decent until I learnt she really doesn't need it
https://www.prydwen.gg/nikke/guides/overload-gear-reroll prydwen had a really good flowcharts for that stuff
one thing I'm trying to do atm is to just get stuff into an OK point - I need a varied roster of usable units for raids
so just adding OL and then improving obvious gear one by one instead of hyper-focus one unit
speaking of I need chest pieces for various units and helms aren't dropping the ones I need, so off to kill some indivilia
trust me, collapse CP on your campaign team
SR can wait, you'll get there once you're hard stuck
progression then SR/PvP
even more so if your main distributed dmg dealer isn't fully built yet
volleyball will be a breeze or else you'll have a walking hell 
regardless you'll need ein anyway, right after cindy and then SBS
RRH and siren will be a godsend
Ein ded, Ada time 
I can't build both in time I think, I think Ein is better here
looking at how much hair retro lost, i dunno 
but ye he has the tools to decide, can get more opinions
Jackal-Noah-Cindy is a pretty good line in pvp.
clearly skill issue
@tropic summit T1 scared me a little
Also how did my nikkes targeted the blanc the most in T2?
I haven't really rerolled gears recently
The game refuses to give me rocks.
For nayuta it was 20 rocks for 2 atk 2 ele
their blanc? it's just vesti isn't it?
Yeah I aim for ONE SINGLE good line per gear and I still fail
it's only scarlet s2 and vesti, vesti hits up to p3, scarlet s2 hits blanc when your link is hit
at that point it's almost a talent but in reverse 
Oh,i get it. Though,was it uninvested? I mean,it died quick
I think if you boost nayuta she might be a better p1 than bay here
I remember he didnt had SR doll 15 on blanc maybe
indom for 9s probably enough to finish the fight
Bay is the best.
Better than nayuta
Even if she is lvl 1
this happened to be 3 times a day three days in a row
Why not good line 1 and 2 and bad line 3
that's 3rd case sir
read last block
I see two Bay but only one nayuta
@tropic summit could you help cook a new team for me to beat this?
Here’s my box again when you get the chance 
you're a third case
I'm aiming for something like the top 2 clears here Rail
problem is
175K | 98K | 154K | 161K | 181K
with 2 cp jumps and putting resources into Ein + M.Mast to up their cp a bit may be fine
unlike me you've mmast should be easier
"somehow" he says 
well some other units I never get
my nero still LB0, I don't have viper etc
I have exia at c3, she's not even on my wishlist
lets be stuck together
@shell hazel im also aiming for chapter 31 hard boss but i use rapirh instead of ein,should i switch to ein?
me Ein is not built
I didn't have Ein built I ran cindy hyper carry but it won't work on MC
ein save me
Yeah,i also dont have proper ein built. I run crown/cindy/siren/rapirh/thelm rn,but ill try again with switching thelm with mmast maybe
this is what I did for 31 hard boss, I had 860K cp thoughhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di-SxrOSoAo
Ty
I had helm as a main b3 she just heals a ton so at least dying is not an issue lol
rapi as b1
you'll want a stacked cindy though and 830K ish cp min I think
Yeah,im almost 900k and this is my cindy built not much atk sadly
Does atk% affect elem dmg%?
that looks plenty
Also does charge dmg affect cindy?
maybe a bit not much, but mine isn't that much better than yours
at 900K you take less deficit penalty likely makes up for it
most of her damage is proc and burst, charge atk is only a portion
I did it at 421 so I could push chapters then open more crates
but Cinderella Ada has a 1 slipper break clear at 1.04m, surely with 4 slipper break can do it lower 
i'm fine with 461 and the ein version I think
looks like people can do it, so if I have the CP it should be doable with some mald
some even had less than 1M cp
This beatable for me?
plus is just one unit to build, I can use Ein in elec SR etc
With different team comps of course
defict is heavy, hard pass
1 sync off 441 for some cp boost anyway
Ada personal damage peepee
but it won't resolve the deficit fully
Yeah that’s what I figured. Dang there’s about 93 token difference between 4th and 5th this rotation
am just going to build mine to basic standard eventually I can't afford to spend the resources to make her amazing and she'll forever be LB0
this is only that you can see collected, does not account for not collected
I just like her as p4 for Blanc since she doesn't require awkward positioning like RH B1 does
but really only works for Vesti Blanc
Oh yeah I know that. The guy in 5th just collected though. He went mad this season with gemming
SPA or CA?
great season, whale woke up on last day, can't ever catch up but eh 
6/6 SPA 1's since they came over, hopefully they get shuffled elsewhere so I can slack again 🙂
ya fool it's only gonna get worse
I fear you're right
whel isekai season is upon us 
yeah
the good thing in your case is that you're already the whel
in fact i think your brackets actually fear you get isekaied
not only you a whel, you also CA winner
core max siren, cindy, sbs, s.doro among others
they fear your name 
Tav (the default name of BG3)
i still haven't finished the last arc and prolly lost the save
good to go from the start again 
didn't like the amount of woke in last chapter anyway
oh that was def there
give too much power and voice to weirdos and things happen
can I make any improvements for this team? I feel like noise isn't needed here anymore but I'm not sure who can replace her
Why fix what’s not broken?
it loses to some teams cuz noises dies early and I don't get burst
? thats what rumani is for, in case noise dies
sorry if it wasn't clear but I meant I don't get enough burst if noise dies three seconds into the fight so nuke teams take it out before it can do anything
Just move noah to slot 1 if the enemy team doesn't have siren
Does this win?
Insta lose 
noise taunt wouldn't be prioritised if I did that right?
depends whether noah or noise have higher charge speed because they both taunt on projectile hit
guess I'll have to check that myself
unfortunately noise has faster charge so it's messing up things
damn noise why does she do her job so well
can someone please help me make pvp teams with the units i have
i dont have some probably important ones
😭 but i def think i can be 121 to get the gems
you must post your box
sec
nikkes > sort by power > landscape mode ideally because portrait is limiting
im on pc
linking your bla would be better no?
it can be, it can not be
is HelmT skill 1 at 10?
idk how to do that
yes
oh you got makima, old account
finish helm treasure in general if you can btw, she's 10/10/10 max out treasure unit worthy
im trying
best treasure unit in the game for both pvp and pve
no burst mats
so send dispatches until it's done
I am
yeah I meant it's not done beyond the burst things
yeah
if you got blabla I can also analyse it - go to https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad and sign in/share your link if you have it
we can get detail then
it lets us see your nikkes from the web
Spa shuffle next reset?
yes
perfect thanks
the helm dress is awesome btw, I like her gacha skin as well but the dress is legit
she is my second fav nikke i had to get it when i saw it
shes beautiful 🥹
I was so happy she became meta again and didnt have to sit on my bench cuz of treasure
last time it got shuffled also
are you perhaps sat on a ton of upgrade materials @cedar jackal ?
add me as a friend on disc
these are the pvp meta batteries you need to work on
well batteries + utils
Noah + Jackal as a priority
4/4/4 skills and add OL
let's see what we can do with teams for now but you'll be mix of cp pad and pvp units prob
mhmm
Vesti: Tactical Upgrade is also pvp meta b3 as well as being generally useful in pve
quite, a shameful amount of my hard campaign was brute forced with a beefy vesti
with my units can u make 3 teams i should use
Need advice on this.
T1: What’s the counter to T1? I see this on defense a lot
T2: I’m quite sure it’s good to go.
T3: doubtful about this one
cuz im using some hot trash
3rd team is just going for cp
you need to raise the power on jackal and noah
Jackal = skills are fine. Give her a doll if you have spare. Get it to R-15 then eventually SR-5. OL her gear to +0 and add a single rock for now
actually 100% the same for Noah
you don't need to spend skills on either for now, but you need dolls + doll levels and OL's
okie
after that I think I'd actually like to see rumani boosted because I'd rather than her than Drake on the Cindy team
okieeee
backup b1 to noise and a bit quicker
sorry i prob sound annoying but could i add you cuz youve been a great help and could dm you in future
no sorry, just post here
okie
after Rumani I'd build out vesti TU
then you can swap cindy out for her directly, or use her in a different team, she's flexible
she's expensive though, Vesti will want SR-15 and 7/10/10 skills and full OL's with good rolls
so leave for now, work on jackal/noah/rumani
cheaper/quicker to get up to speed
for inspiration you can see how strong my roster looks 😄
jesus
MA @gritty ridge go!
rapi summer skin ur on my rob list /j
the free one is good but yeah, I'm getting the Nayuta one but skipping the RH one

it will happen, I'm a bit sad as she was so expensive to build
show your box so we know what you can run, although most likely can focus T2 and T3, they're both easy
opponent made sure to commit to a single team which makes the other 2 way weaker
thank you for your help
once Helm treasure is done try to get the materials for Laplace's one
okie
but doll level too far away and you have more pressing things to spend them on I think
@tropic summit sorry for reping, would you be able to help for this please?
assuming you've built core units, without seeing your box, i'd recommend running this
- skip T1
- noah biscuit cindy helmt rumani against T2
- scarlet blanc rh centi jackal against T3
cubes
noah temp
biscuit vigor
cindy any
helmt temperance
rumani any
scarlet temperance
blanc vigor
rh any
centi quantum
jackal quantum
ensure you're not on deficit then you can run them
to beat this one it would need either of these:
- noah noise with noise taunt priority (how's your CS% on these 2 units?)
- indom (your jackal is on blue doll, can you safely run one?)
- bay (don't see her built)
Noah and noise are both without charge speed
Does that give noise priority?
@placid bloom do you remember if on same CS% but noise in p1 you can force a noise taunt priority?
or if it was noah p1 and noise p5 forcing a noise taunt priority
how are you on mats to get jackal to SR5 meanwhile btw?
Noah needs 2% cs if Noise is p1 to land faster
which adjutant can do 
viceversa instead the opposite right?
E.g. noise p1 and noah p5 with noah on adjutant cube should give noise taunt priority
since noah hits taunt first then noise would override
yeah
Used my only sr on vesti :/
well frenzy can be the guinea pig to confirm the theory 
even with Noise p5 and Noah p1, 2% cs is enough to make Noah faster by 1 frame
so that's the minimum req
if you put Noise p1 and Noah p3-5 then there is no cs req
assuming both are at 0cs
CP might be a problemo tho
assemble
vestiTu noise jackal noah RH
and let's start checking CP requirement
ya need 199k looks like at least in range
you're on 77% to 2RL... you gonna be needing scar and siren to feed
but if we divert them at 1RL via taunt, you're no longer getting feed
this is gonna need to be creative again 
I believe in you
i dunno they're really pushing you here, punished by
- cannot feed
- cannot run certain nikke due to CP requirement
- must be 2RL anti nuke
also you cannot indom cuz jackal is probably too squishy
check jackal HP against vestiTU and RH
or even better against helmT and vestiTU
nvm you don't have helmT, it's vesti and RH
he needs 199k, meaning RH and vestiTU probably gonna need to stay
Jackal 1.29m vesti 1.27m rh 1.25m
oh wow maybe u can indom afterall
I did invest some into her gear before
what's your CS% on vestiTU again?
Just 2.57% on one piece
oke maybe it's over afterall 

Did guess it was probably the hardest team to beat earlier since it’s the fastest team he made so far
need an helmT or a laplaceT or better CP on noah and biscuit to do this
plus tbh there's a very good chance your blanc straight dies, i don't even see her in ur box
Yeah no blanc yet
there's although 1 thing we can try
So what beats this? I already know T3 wins.
assemble this and show CP
@oak hatch how much hath this?
too low
180k
we dip on noise then, we don't need noise but that noah is taunting siren
was hoping what I sent would have enough but yeah cp issue :9
we could although overbuff nayuta and just pray for the best
it's a bit cope, I mean it's rookie so can science it
guessing Bay isn't available/too low cp to replace Noah?
show CP with this and we go copium
Yeah no doll
we have the power at least
ok can run it but fix position
vestiTU nayuta rh trina jackal
vestiTU temperance
nayuta any
rh any
trina quantum
jackal quantum
give it a shot and pray for the best 
If I use my campaign team at 285k does it put his team at disadvantage and win?
they're 236k
me like new molds
18% deficit probably enough for scar jack to still be lethal though
So go with this team still right
especially as his highest CP units all feed
yep give it a shot
been thinking about changing my team.
1RL 
1 attempt worth it just to test waters
record for 🍿
run these, you're on the left
you cooked again
vestiTU actually stil landed a crap ton of damage unreal
nayuta just made sure you lived those few seconds she cast B2 
true 🍿
nayuta can actually help suicide teams 
scarlet didn't even B3 lmao
ded to nayuta B2
truly unreal gg 
yeah think the pressure on scar was too much with vesti as well
siren is wind as well
ye link got massive dmg
Would this be my current best team for rookie or it still depends? Seems like nayuta been used in every team against their past few teams
just deleted em
plus a few of those vesti rockets were RH buffed
nayuta probably abusable if you run in def
it actually probably would, unless gapped with a noah biscuit
as then your main source of dmg is negated
e.g.
noah biscuit flex helmt jackal would be lethal on you
I’ll slap this team on defense then
because you get your link nuked and then nayuta is stalled with sustain
not unbeatable, but opponent needs to know what he's doing at least
I've not run across any nayuta teams yet
won't see them in SParena
negated by rosanna
negated by natural indom
negated by sustain and anti nuke
make ur defense weaker on purpose 
If I get treasure helm what would the go to team be?
nah they're getting isekaid on shuffle trust
noah biscuit vestiTU helmt jackal
jackal vestiTU helmt blanc centi
these 2 would be decently powerful
thx hopefully i get her soon, gonna pray opponent doesn’t find counter to the team you just made but seems unlikely since they’ve been changing daily just for me 
that's good, more practice for you
go get em
nope
From where
take them from @shell hazel
i always get his rocks
Usually players in my spa would have stopped trying already but this is the toughest opponent I’ve seen so far also given it’s rookie which is supposedly easier
his teams were always decent, he's probably pvper or getting his own kind of help
Please rail
Yeah that’s what I thought and synchro 200 kinda early to understand much cuz I don’t even get this pvp thing yet 

do sim room 25 overclock stop slacking
I already did
do it again and pray they screw up and you get double rewards
easy
50 is doable, infinite is not
I never really did over 25 yet didn't care for the thing atm 😄
rewards stop - I stop



I can get one doll selector from 5x5 event, do I prioritize jackal sr5 or nayuta?
Nayuta
we'll get a solo raid soon as well
should get another one then, plus you can see what the random ones are before you open it
I see so wait and see what I get from solo raid then choose?
Yes
there isn't a massive diff between R-15 and SR-5
personally I'd consider waiting until SR selector lands then you'll have 2 random purple dolls + 2 selectors to work with
they're already married to the other million shikikans
"OUR" nayuta and jackal

Solo raid should be next week right?
kits
it's 1-2 weeks out

EnragedHippos when?
I think*
that is always
13th
what of EnlargedHippos
also always
EndangeredHippos
yes but how do we beat your 120+ lvl whel
also how come you still didn't 💳
i think the only way is asking wallet kun
i thought you were gonna betray the f2p ways 
He has a +120 level whale?
im really tempted tho
punish the whel
yeah, he is 564 and im 452
Scary numbers
everyone is a f*ing f2p in this channel anyway 
i could beat him if i was 501 right now
@umbral belfry I made it to boss
now I wait for levels 
60 levels npt a big deal against him
but then he just auto back the filth 
bro missed crown gacha skin
but but what if there is a 1% chance he fails
I mean I don’t have crown gatcha either
he'd need to have his cat play and accidentally select only 3 nikkes
that was before my time 

at that point maybe you're no longer in deficit but on par 
The upcoming pass one is better anyway

when i was able to beat him i never got a success defending against him
What about engaged hippos
color me surprised 
Haha yeah I was gonna say get a good one in 2 days 
@shell hazel i'd run away

Hippo?
maybe in january will start the year getting some levels
a new year, a new f2p you
Don’t he just drag them underwater for submersion therapy
let's hope he doesn't forget to bring them out aswell afterward
a new f2||pay||
The enlighten and reach nirvana or die and reach paradise
mother of god it's finally done
I’m still playing necromancy
You next
Youll enjoy the results
he is saving for nikke 4
I jump 20 levels at a time
ur the kind of guy i question to yeet off of union for slow sync improve then?
imagine
bro same sync as last raid? yeet
Sweet sweet victory!
I believe in u

What can I do to become red
just need to be active in the server, eventually you will get it
Bad news... my Redhood is in the surface hospital...
uwu
no red for you
I try my best 
Oh and grats on blue 



I'll earn red its okay 
@dense kindle when I catch him in CA pools
😭
I'm done 10/10
elkingjae 
Guys, how can i defeat noah and crown in PvP ?
He's done, meanwhile have you two even started? @fathom rock @swift mango
I done also, I just finished a boss world tour on the weekly lol
Their shields are insane
Crown shield kinda bad in pvp
Noah you gott stun her, wait til after her invul, or kill her before she bursts
by stunning noah (or crown) with either siren or soda. crown isn't really used in pvp though but same applies
@umbral belfry @gritty ridge Do my team have any chance with this?
Very slow teams on both sides there
you're cooked simply because liter is stunned and then she dies = you have no extra b1 aka you are cooked
regardless both are slow teams
So, Are there any nikkes that help to kick burst faster ?
Is soda a priority unit for newish players for PvP if I don’t have siren?
burst gen units such as centi, jackal, rumani, sr anis give a lot of burst gen for example. helm treasure is great as well and should be priority for both pvp and pve
no sir
you should focus on campaign units if you're new
soda is a very niche unit
Id say follow my lead and build enough units to clear every campaign boss before focusing pvp
good, but niche. if you build her now you'll likely regret it as you level up and realize you lack gear, doll stuff, skill kits, etc
Hime tryin to climb #pvp-arena MA ranks
I no care for MA 
Rail said the same thing, but we know she's #pvp-arena MA 

Meant more as in if she’s a top tier unit for PvP, I’m hardstuck on mirror container in campaign so might as well build for PvP now
I'd say she's up there in cases like CA. sp or rookie you could use her there but imo not as important. if you're not in CA I wouldn't be in a hurry to build her imo
I see, thx
If you competitive PvP she's goated for that
otherwise just build more PvE or multi-purposes unit

Just rookie and sp arena, don’t have enough characters for champions arena yet
I mean if you manage to hold top 4 for most of the season, you'll be dragged to CA anyway
Even better for new bracket, because your opponent (majority) also don't have PvP investment
Yeah I got into ca but got destroyed in the promotion bracket
gonna make a new acc to infiltrate baby CA bracket 
You should ask there for CA comp, any decent comp will win against CA bots
Their account is 2+ months older than mine
THere's someone with 0 PvP investment actually passed top 16 CA lol
No bots
pve teams in top 16 






