pvp-arena

[thorny furnace]

Ah ok, thank you!

[tropic summit]

no problem

[carmine locust]

so helm can out tank heal scarlet?

how would this end?

[shell hazel]

you need more cp or you eat deficit

[tropic summit]

you're in deficit, dead

[carmine locust]

hmm i look through the nikkes you mentioned for new teams and update gear/dolls if i can. I saw i get a lot of doll stuff i can use

[digital plinth]

Might be a dumb question. When are Rumani and Trina used in sp arena?

[shell hazel]

trina buffs scarlet/moran teams. Trina makes them immune for a short time at the start of combat.

otherwise trina can work as any good flex b2 in any team - her burst gen is high, so she's basically another centi for this purpose

rumani is mainly just high burst gen b1 - jackal does more but jackal and rumani are the main 2 good b1 batteries

[digital plinth]

Are Emilia and Maiden ice rose interchangeable?

[shell hazel]

well yes and no

emilia has a lot more potential burst gen than xmaiden

[digital plinth]

What is the Scarlet and Moran team?

[shell hazel]

it's not scarlet and moran it's just that she can work with scarlet or moran, you probably wouldn't run both

point is she's good with various teams in her own right but she works just fine without

[tropic summit]

you can find those teams here

#pvp-arena message

a recent moran variation is

moran noah helmt rh laplace/emilia/vestiTU

[tight finch]

So CM is top 4? I always thought only top 3 for some reason

[shell hazel]

top 4 confirmed - I do hope they extend a bit after the 15 season long beta ends

top 10 would be interesting

[inner turtle]

hey guys, could someone help me with sp arena teams i can make? It would be easier in dms but I can also send here

[tight finch]

People got so feral when I was pushing around in 2-4,, our bracket got fixed 2-4 assume bullying anyone who pushes up since 2-3 arn't even that strong

[inner turtle]

those are my available nikkes

[dire root]

Omg just DIE

Solid 10 seconds of unloading lead into her by herself

[leaden canyon]

the problem is I need to find solutions to the slow team without using hood, biscuit, noah or vesti

[dire root]

I knew she was a tank but didn't know that much of a tank.

[leaden canyon]

since they cant be removed off the other team

[dire root]

[leaden canyon]

which i did find out how to break the team

[umbral crown]

@shell hazel @tropic summit i did the thing @keen vapor

[inner turtle]

Could someone help me build teams for sp arena? Would be easier through dms but I can also send here. Just lmk if ure willing to help!

[tropic summit]

send your box here

[tropic summit]

nvm i see you already did, taking a look

[inner turtle]

tyyy!!!1

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

[umbral crown]

now sp will have 12 tempuras and 3 quatums, hahaha

[inner turtle]

I can also put some in synchro device if neccessary!

[tropic summit]

SParena

• **T1 **nayuta centi cindy siren helmt
• **T2 **scarlet vestitu laplaceT blanc jackal
• **T3 **noah biscuit sbs rh emilia

Notes

• increase CP on your utilities which are very down low, noah, biscuit, centi, jackal, blanc
• noise in synchro, build her as per recommended on prydwen, SR5-SR15, 4OL
• wishlist rumani and trina

[inner turtle]

thank u so much!!!!

but I dont have laplacet yet, I need one more copy

helm as well

[inner turtle]

any replacements?

[tropic summit]

oh you don't have mats or dupes uh... gonna need to weaken the teams a bit

i'll give you the replacements

[inner turtle]

thank u soooo much

[lunar pawn]

@leaden marten check spa again heh

[tropic summit]

SParena

- T1 nayuta centi vestiTU siren laplace
- T2 scarlet sbs noir blanc jackal
- T3 noah biscuit cindy rh emilia

Notes

- increase CP on your utilities which are very down low, noah, biscuit, centi, jackal, blanc

• noise in synchro, build her as per recommended on prydwen, SR5-SR15, 4OL
• wishlist rumani and trina
  - get helm and laplace treasured (priority on helm)

[crystal flicker]

PvP MA

[inner turtle]

thank u so much, uve been super helpful

[tulip quest]

Nayuta so good in pvp

already like Makima but has dps

[inner turtle]

and in which one do i put noise in?

when i build her

[tropic summit]

those teams are gonna be remade once you've helm treasured

you can build noise right after, although she'll likely go with either vestiTU or cindy in their original teams

[inner turtle]

oki

thanks a lot again!!

[tropic summit]

as spoiler, these are likely going to be ur future teams once laplacet and helmt are done

noise noah cindy helmt rumani
jackal vestitu laplacet blanc centi

[inner turtle]

oki

[tropic summit]

you welcome

[leaden canyon]

@tropic summit I have not seen nayuta testing in pvp, how goes it

[tropic summit]

flex p1 tank that doubles as buffer and healer

also can pseudo biscuit lock team together with another tanky p1/p5

now SGs have more than 3 teams to worry about in CA

[unique wagon]

Has anyone tried Nayuta Nero stall

[leaden canyon]

like both on the same team? I have not

[unique wagon]

Wait ir doesnt work

Man why do they have to make Nayutas heal like that LOL

[leaden marten]

Hqhahah i ain't at the pc at the moment and haven't updated the game on the phone in a while

[leaden canyon]

I wonder if nayuta is enough to kill slow cindy without using hood, biscuit, vesti or noah

I should test next time but not sure what to try

[lunar pawn]

[covert lintel]

Need above 2k% screen wipe to do that

[tulip quest]

I tested vs my whale who out level me 45 levels he use noise and blanc I did about 50% of his hp

and was cp deficit

Pure nayuta unbuilt

Well was buff also by privaty but only 20% damage

Yea nayuta is really stronk

in C.A She would be used a lot

I wish I had makima

[tulip quest]

if you attack noise + cindy I think nayuta dies first without dps buff like RH cause at the start of battle 9 seconds is the only time she can last

unless you Biscuit her

[umbral crown]

You have nayuta no need for makima

[tulip quest]

for Lifesteal

[tulip quest]

Mihara, Nayuta Makima Rossana +RL

STALL poison team

[umbral crown]

[tulip quest]

it worked on same CP level rookie

it will work in C.A Trust

Shotgun teams and SCARLET TEAM

Will die first for sure

[umbral crown]

[tulip quest]

you can test it out on your spa vs scarlet teams and tell me how it worked out

Im still in my mad scientist mode testing weird stuffs

Only decent testing I can get is my whale above 45 levels and huge defecit me

[umbral crown]

Only place to test is rookie and i am practically the strongest

But tell me the full team

[limber raft]

wish they would rework the pvp system account creation shuffle is ass if you took a break for over a year pvp is not an option anymore as everyone and their mothers are way higher level

[tulip quest]

Already told you tho

[umbral crown]

We are makima less

[tulip quest]

Mihara, Nayuta Makima Rossana +RL you can put Drake in +RL if you lack character

[tulip quest]

Yea True hahaha

[tulip quest]

I'am using privaty for stall

[umbral crown]

But a team with 4 mg/smg does not seem to be optimal, also if rosanna not well built she could die by scar S2

Mihara will also and that will leave the RL and nayuta that might not be able to burst

[minor dawn]

I don't uinderstand how Nayuta's indom abiolity woreks. Been trying her in pvp, but it seems she just keels ove in 3-4 secs. what am I missing?

[tulip quest]

Yea still testing

Not really best team but more like dump team cause I have already 4 good teams

[tulip quest]

start of battle

9 seconds she wont die

[umbral crown]

For CA?

[minor dawn]

and again, she dies before 9 seconds is up. timed at 6 secs max.

in rookie she lasts 9. i've no idea what's the diff.

[keen vapor]

How are you counting

[minor dawn]

stopwatch as soon as the arena opens.

and again by observing the match timer on top right. for sp arena

[swift mango]

your team kill poli before she burst, that's why I repeatedly told people to put poliT p3 so they win mirror easily but no one listened,

100% of the mirror PoliT vs no poliT, no blanc loss were because they put her on the side after all.

[raven plover]

are you fighting rosanna

[umbral crown]

But what about P4

Rosa P5 also skip to poli and poli indom tanks SGs

[minor dawn]

damn... don't tell me i forgot about rosanna's buff removal... so the indom got removed coz of her huh

dammit.

[raven plover]

[keen vapor]

Woah, nice guess Hoboman

[covert lintel]

Rip
Unlike her, Makima can't be removed because she needs to be 1 hp first

[minor dawn]

mmh.... if there's a makima on the team, would it protect nayuta?

[keen vapor]

Huh?

[minor dawn]

wait. just re-read. only to 2 enemy units with highest attack.

damn. need to change the team comp and ensure nayuta is not highest attack

[raven plover]

pretty much

[raven plover]

just put 2 atker

[keen vapor]

Rereread it
It says prioritizes attacker units

Not highest attack

Also, nuke is not the thing that cuts buffs

[upper harbor]

Rookie got rearranged for me, any chance to breach a 100level gap?

[minor dawn]

2 enemy units with highest final attack. so if nayuta has the highest in a team comp, she gets debuffed.

only her burst prioritises 2 attacker units.

[gritty ridge]

Wait is rosa able to sever indom?

[minor dawn]

dammit. it's too late into the night for me to use my brain. i'm gonna call it a day. best of luck to all of you

[umbral crown]

if you manage to get 1.2m or so with same team you would have a chance

[leaden canyon]

its the mihara cindy slow team that im trying to deal with and I cant use certain units like biscuit because they cant be removed from the other team they are on

I found something that has been working but its not the best

[covert lintel]

The best way is 2rl double buff screen wipe
Even harran can be used if you lv up burst 10

[leaden canyon]

I have done scarlet helm trina siren jackal before, should I do liter instead of siren?

[tardy bone]

Obvi someone already asked, what is the best team for nayuta

[covert lintel]

Yes, do it with liter or rh
Siren is not buffer, iirc her buff only 4% atk dmg

[leaden canyon]

cant do rh since shes locked to another team so liter it is

[covert lintel]

But remember not scar as screen wipe
She'll just ruin and activate the opponent's immune with her counter

[leaden canyon]

would ReiT work

although I guess that wouldn't be a double buff since trina cant buff reiT

ReiT helm blanc liter jackal?

[covert lintel]

Yes, try it

Oh right, since it's mihara make sure your reiT can tank her dmg until she burst

[leaden canyon]

Soundling like I neeed to build harran lmao

[livid marsh]

How your pull hobo?

[junior tiger]

need help attacking this comp
have all units feel free to give recommendations

[leaden canyon]

Jackal blanc biscuit vesti helm

Should work

If your vesti has enough cs for the burstgen increase its 2RL

if not its 2.5 and should still be fine

[gritty ridge]

I dont like that this team takes 3 cubes to be 2rl

[leaden canyon]

Scar gives you 3% feed

[gritty ridge]

Ik, but if its not native 2rl I dont like it

Its yucky

[leaden canyon]

I believe the 3% is always a guarantee anyway

[gritty ridge]

Actually, i think ill put trina in p4

Dont want her getting eaten by vesti

[leaden canyon]

yeah that would help

[ivory violet]

Maybe try something like this, in that first team with vesti team swap lily with Nayuta

[swift mango]

https://www.masterduelmeta.com/cards/Sheena the Twin Storm Deities of Divine Thunder

Yeah pretty good but nothing insane.

Would be insane if it was released 10+ years ago.

The harpie trap is better than this one tbh.

[ivory violet]

And for that last team use the ninja delta

[tribal crest]

tysm

i'll try that

[leaden canyon]

VestiTU blanc ada anis rumani

Nayuta privaty drake noir neon

Third team is honestly what ever

[tribal crest]

ty

[ivory violet]

Oh yeah I forgot about anis she's good burst gen

[leaden canyon]

yeah her and neon are good burstgen fillers early on

[gritty ridge]

Now to try and cook a t3

[leaden canyon]

Out of that?

[tribal crest]

do i use the same characters order as in there?

[gritty ridge]

Thats all thats left for batteries

Lmao

Indom lap yippee

[leaden canyon]

indom lap thats bursting oof

If you can somehow get her indom without her bursting thats better

[gritty ridge]

Whats wrong with my hero lazer

[swift mango]

P4 with Rosa p5 is the same as p5 Poli.

[leaden canyon]

Out of this pic I would say pepper centi xmaiden lap emilia

[gritty ridge]

Emilia is not an option

[leaden canyon]

drake

[gritty ridge]

Neither is x.maiden

[leaden canyon]

or maiden and drake and have maiden burst

regular shotgun maiden

[gritty ridge]

[tribal crest]

would this work if i have privaty in diff team ? idk by who replacing her

[ivory violet]

That should be fine too

What are your other teams?

[tribal crest]

sec

[umbral crown]

not really

[leaden canyon]

if that maiden lives that a huge nuke lmao

[tribal crest]

and that's the other left characters

[ivory violet]

Those are pretty good

Better than what I suggested haha, I'll see what I can come up with for t3

[tribal crest]

Ye i did use what Dair said and your 3rd team but then had no b3 xD

[tribal crest]

ty

[leaden canyon]

Sora anchor rapi maiden jill I guess

[tribal crest]

instead of this one?

[swift mango]

Rossanna ain't solo a whole team with her normal attack.

[leaden canyon]

hmm let me look at some things real quick

[umbral crown]

you should trust the process

[tribal crest]

sure, take your time

omg no 😭

i like doro but i wanted my last nayuta for mlb

[ivory violet]

Maybe something like this

[tribal crest]

ty i'll try it

[ivory violet]

Although it's important to remember in SP Arena CP trumps everything else

[tribal crest]

ye

i have to build some of these characters skills up

as i wasn't rly using some

[ivory violet]

For example this is what I use on defense, it's better just to build a big cp wall than cope a 3rd team

But it depends on how big of a cp difference, good to look at this chart if you haven't before https://nikke.gg/cp-deficit-stat-penalty/

[tribal crest]

ye right, if i can just build 2 team enough that i can't rly go lower in arena i should be fine then

[tribal crest]

sure, sec

[leaden canyon]

Sora anchor B.milk maiden alice, can try that.

[tribal crest]

thanks

[wild hemlock]

Something about checking another nikke cord and seeing someone losing it over trying to beat my rookie team i haven't touched in months cause I don't care about rookie is pretty funny

[ivory violet]

The best part of arena is when you clearly tilt the fukc out of someone

[gritty ridge]

I wonder if anyone can test this against say, nero moran or slow cindy

[raven plover]

got lucky, just 10 pulls

[tribal crest]

🤣

[wild hemlock]

I swear he was in this cord before he must have left it

[tribal crest]

[livid marsh]

[ivory violet]

Oh wow I was betting on him in champion arena

[wild hemlock]

that's me, the screenshot is from someone else hitting my rookie team that i haven't touched in ages

[ivory violet]

Oh no way lmao

Dude that finals match you're in is so hard to predict. It's basically 5 mirror matchups, but I chose to bet on you

[wild hemlock]

Yeah it's going to be close I think. My guess was I win 2,4,5. But 4 I'm not certain on cause shotguns are funny sometimes

[ivory violet]

It's too bad we won't be able to see how it works out bc of the patch

just the final result

[swift mango]

use the chart in pin. This is deficit for pve

[ivory violet]

is it really different for pvp

[swift mango]

yes. Stat Deficit doesn't exist below 15.4%

[ivory violet]

huh didn't know that thanks for the heads up

[umbral crown]

Maiden

[gritty ridge]

What abt it

[umbral crown]

Last keripo.note about maiden was that she lacking damage to full nuke since there are now many damage reduction things and stuff

[gritty ridge]

She is very buffed on that team to conpensate

[umbral crown]

Also even so... hard to find someone who has her built to test that comp

Last i remember she needs 10/1/10 and veey high atk

[gritty ridge]

I was actually thinking 7 10 10

[umbral crown]

The taunt skill does not really matters

[gritty ridge]

If gonna put her on guaranteed crit might as well pump crit dmg

[umbral crown]

Me thinks

[gritty ridge]

You gain an extra 60% crit dmg from s2 if you bring it to 10

[umbral crown]

I do not remember her kit tbh

[gritty ridge]

S1 is her atk buff/revenge status, s2 is her taunt/massive crit dmg, burst is nuke

[umbral crown]

Then you need max skill

If you.going maiden you gonna go the right way

[gritty ridge]

So itd be 4 atk 4 crit and probably an ammo

So basically build scar

If I get a chance ill build that because in the current meta you can fit that in CA

It just takes the place of nero moran

[umbral crown]

And the jackal of vesti team

[gritty ridge]

Vesti gets noise noah

[umbral crown]

Saw some people with that cook

[gritty ridge]

Thats what I personally run and its very successful

[umbral crown]

My ein lost to that cook, i did not watch replay tho

Cuz he wants to send a message

[gritty ridge]

So itd be scar soda, noise noah vesti, miranda maiden, slow cindy, sg team

[umbral crown]

give a try

wanna see how that works

[gritty ridge]

I cant yet, I dont have the mats to build, nor the dupes i need for t.lap

[umbral crown]

no hero treasure?

[gritty ridge]

No, the game refuses to give me more dupes

[umbral crown]

use the tix

force your way

[gritty ridge]

You mean the free tix?

[umbral crown]

ordinary tixs

you are the handsome one

si

[gritty ridge]

@umbral crown an example

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/yuru-camp-shima-rin-spaghetti-kazumaozk-italian-nightmare-gif-15808421987992268724

[umbral crown]

i like it, something different feels nice

[swift mango]

Maybe because you are Iranian

[worthy sorrel]

ohhhhh yeah, this checks out

no need for vod. blood can break it down
tyty

i do feel like i see a lot of poli p1s though. what match up is that for if not to stop atk sgs?

because yeah it seems like any deently built sg team would kill p1 before burst

[swift mango]

They could if your SG isn't strong enough

They need to be a whale with research gap to do those stupid stat sensitive build.

good luck

[gritty ridge]

@umbral crown its 10 1 10, s2 is an active skill

[gritty ridge]

Heyy, just the guy I wanted to talk to

[brazen nova]

pls help my with my team, always get beated by someone lower than me 24 level at C5 😔

[cunning crown]

actual good one, I respect this scarlet pfp's commitment to the bit

[gritty ridge]

@swift mango does miranda work with maiden?

[brazen nova]

bro cant accept losing, and now we just trade blow

[swift mango]

probably not

You could test it to be sure if 2nd shot of maiden burst affected by it. Xmaiden is defender though so hard to be the target. If you mean maiden then no.

[gritty ridge]

Not even 2nd hit from revenge status?

[swift mango]

yeah no

[gritty ridge]

Shiftup needs to buff miranda

[swift mango]

Sreton became white now.
Mod senpai noticed him.

okay you only got muted for 1 minutes,

[gritty ridge]

Is there another crit buffer I could use in place of miranda?

Or do I just use liter and call it a day

[swift mango]

volume

2 mast

[gritty ridge]

31% isnt bad

Thats what, 80% total with 4 crit lines?

[swift mango]

I guess

[gritty ridge]

Probably better to just use liter atp tho

Why couldn't miranda work

[swift mango]

she work with ein

[gritty ridge]

I cant use ein

[swift mango]

@fathom spoke got mute for good now I guess. Probably an hour+

Okay you didn't
Only comments deleted.

[gritty ridge]

Nah i think he's just deleting em lmao

[swift mango]

I wonder if I deleted all my comments would I be deranked to Green?.

[swift mango]

They did, for pvE, in the form of Ada

[tulip quest]

Mind sharing that?

[tulip quest]

Does losing in rookie really hurts?

SPA tho I understand

rookie more for testing teams

[leaden canyon]

I wouldn't really try it as its very risky, but I'll dm it to you because I suspect the guy that I attack lurks in here

[tulip quest]

She already good in PVE tho pretty well used even tho pvp yea nah

[tulip quest]

Alright I'm kinda a mad scientist in testing myself

keep losing in rookie XD

[leaden canyon]

sent it

[hybrid fox]

finally

[simple slate]

what team should i build for arena?

[shell hazel]

@nimble swan have to see what the shuffle does, closest the top of my bracket has been in CP, whale hasn't pushed much sync lately either they already did or they're saving for a big one

[covert lintel]

Same cp
No whale

[shell hazel]

what sync?

[nimble swan]

booba might be planning something or got tired of the game

i'm curious about reshuffle, my rookie got some people from my SPA

[shell hazel]

they've not done the new chapters yet btw

my rookie shuffle put people back in that I had in the previous one

gone are people like Void and even @oblique gyro got isekaid (how is your new rookie?)

[nimble swan]

btw have you seen? moran might win 3rd CA in a row

with the exact same teams lol

[shell hazel]

yeah lol I voted on him but I didn't bother to check the teams properly

[nimble swan]

it's kinda like 50/50 iirc, i need to recheck

is the reshuffle coming with next season?

[shell hazel]

yes

also CA should reshuffle a bit if it follows the same pattern as last time

[nimble swan]

oh we might lose Tenshi

[shell hazel]

well some people in our thing arrived later and have played longer so have more invest like moran guy

I guess eventually we should be the top dogs in our CA brackets if we get lucky cut off points

commander levels in ours range from 450 - 550 or so, the ones at 550 clearly have an advantage

[lunar pawn]

@leaden marten check spa

[crystal flicker]

This 2x 2RL with Jackal feeds

[rich ledge]

Any CA cooks for the 5 teams with nayuta yet?

[covert lintel]

Crow is nayuta

[spiral onyx]

I'll be using Nayuta next CA

[rich ledge]

Most people are saying to replace SG team?

[spiral onyx]

Don't know who "most people" are but that's my plan. It's not so simple though

[rich ledge]

Yea if we replace SG team we need to bring on alot of new blood

[spiral onyx]

Unless you properly team build, you will likely end up with a worse serup

[covert lintel]

No, that team has so many redflag if it's using nayuta

[rich ledge]

Nayuta + 4 new nikkes

[spiral onyx]

SG team has been around for a very long time precisely because it is low cost and enabled 4 other strong teams

[covert lintel]

Especially when you meet mirror but with xanne

[rich ledge]

Another is to just add nayuta into one of the existing teams

[spiral onyx]

The SG-less setup I have planned is very very tight unit distribution wise and I'm not even sure if it's overall stronger, but that's part of the fun of experimenting

[wind kelp]

Well that compilation should help me do some tuning next round (if i get there again). Basic WW2 "There's holes, but the plane came back, put more metal where it wasn't shot" 😄

[spiral onyx]

"put more metal where it wasn't shot" is the correct mentality. You can't take win/loss results at face value, you have to understand why it won/loss and if it's a hard counter or remediable via further investment

[wind kelp]

True, but i'm also considering the RNG of team-matchups etc. If a team wins all 3, solid enough. All losses, do something else. 2 wins, might just be rng. 1 win, could use some tuning.

[shell hazel]

plus CA isn't that important can be fun to send experiments

it's a good chance to try something out and 🍿 the result

[spiral onyx]

I do half care about the result though. Low-key annoyed I'm currently tied on the rankings board, would prefer having a clear win

[rich ledge]

Haha for people with at least 1 frame they can take it more easy, I need at least 1 frame

[spiral onyx]

But at this point most of my gaming attention is elsewhere so I'm not that bothered by it

[shell hazel]

I don't care that much tbh, nice if I win but not a big deal, I only won twice and same guy looks like they're about to win 3rd time in a row 😄

am 28th in global atm

[wind kelp]

Since we didn't have a "this" emote for nikke, thighs will do 😄

[shell hazel]

most of my pvp unit invests are done outside of rocks for CS % rolls and some doll upgrades for a few units, but the first is a contested resource already and the second I need for the new units coming out now for my pve

[spiral onyx]

Identifying your "weakest link" is definitely an exercise worth doing. Either through data collection, external testing (e.g. with SP Arena or Rookie) or just shadow simulations. Once you've identified it, then you need to make the judgement call of whether you A) try to make it stronger at the cost of making the other 4 teams weaker, B) make the other 4 teams stronger at the cost of making this team weaker ("throwaway gimmick team" like SG currently is), or C) do nothing

[shell hazel]

you're lucky you have your test dummy Keripo 😄

one day they may shuffle you apart

how long have you been in the same SPA bracket?

[spiral onyx]

Previously my Scarlet Blanc team was my weakest link apart from my SG team. I will ironically be bringing it back in exchange for the SG team

[spiral onyx]

I'm pretty sure our accounts were created a few hours apart on day 1 so low chance of getting shuffled out tbh

Same Rookie Arena, so...

[shell hazel]

I have some overlap, not a lot tbh

one of my SPA opponents been here all the time with me, but has been in and out of my rookie

was there, then isekaid, then back again with this shuffle

[spiral onyx]

That happens when you go on a vacation and don't log in lol

Or enough other people go on a vacation

[shell hazel]

nah they been playing all the time don't think they skipped any days

malder like me I respect it, we been top 1-3 SPA buddies for the last 9 months or so 😄

[real abyss]

i just got vesti upgrade idk if i can kill stuff yet on atk

[shell hazel]

are you planning to run a slow cindy keripo?

I don't love the comp but my mihara is low invest, i've had mixed results with it

I figure if nayuta can take the role of blanc on that team then blanc can return to something else

[leaden canyon]

tempering to 15 boys?

[umbral crown]

Of course

[spiral onyx]

Find out next week

[shell hazel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1162985219830329374.webp?size=128&animated=true

[umbral crown]

[austere marsh]

Good morning

[livid marsh]

The server down?

[honest thicket]

Sorry for the bad picture but im 1 cheer away for the winner frame. I picked zazau but i just want a second opinion before its too late.

[gritty ridge]

@swift mango I have a smart fella who did some tests for me and says maidens 2nd burst proc is affected by miranda

[shell hazel]

who won? 😄

[nimble swan]

@shell hazel someone definitely has to stop moran next CA

[shell hazel]

damnit

well I voted for moran guy, so it's my own fault I suppose

[nimble swan]

[shell hazel]

I actually ran basically the same teams they did, just RNG'ed out of it 😄

my biscuit partially to blame perhaps

[nimble swan]

Yeah that’s the craziest part, so many people was running the same teams as he did, and he still rngd himself another title

[nimble swan]

I blame my blanc

[swift mango]

That weird but well, not much to say.

Small bonus dmg is small

[wise horizon]

is this good to go?

[haughty mortar]

How do I beat this in rookie?

[gritty ridge]

Its the same amount of dmg as her initial burst iirc

[keen vapor]

Siren scar Trina centi jackal isn't working?

[haughty mortar]

I will try

[wild hemlock]

No not at all lol. That's why it's funny

[sinful quarry]

@umbral belfry @tropic summit We did it, guys. I got the frame, although the results are way different than we've expected.

[umbral belfry]

we did it chat

[wild hemlock]

[quartz rover]

awarded for doing nothing

[wild hemlock]

Turns out copying Keripos setup minus my nero team worked out pretty well. Although I think my slow cindy lost nearly every single matchup. Think I'm switching the positions there so cindy will burst no matter what lol

Investing in Poli was super worth though. My SG team won nearly every single fight

[rich ledge]

what does poli do instead of using xanne?

[quartz rover]

big shield

[wild hemlock]

Well I just copied keripos sg team so I'm not an expert, but I like 5 sgs vs 4 for focus fire. The indom won me a matchup once, and it just feels like my sg team is a lot stronger overall I think my dmg is much higher

[fast nest]

[gaunt pulsar]

gj on win

[fast nest]

tyty

[quartz rover]

youll have to help me now baron

when thetime comes

[wild hemlock]

Indom saved me here

I won 4/5 matchups vs every single previous CA winner except @valid inlet who was by far my closest matchup and it was probably just a coin flip I won.
Not sure how I feel about my Quiry Nero team winning CA though I just wanted to try it out and idk if just using standard nero comp would have just been better can't tell

[hoary maple]

Hell yeah, I'm in the club now

[umbral belfry]

[covert lintel]

My frame is so ugly

[thorny sequoia]

PvP gods! I need your help! Is there a hard counter to this Rookie team? Or is the cp deficit too much? Thank you PvP gods!! 🙏🙏🙏

[atomic wolf]

give up

or run a 2RL Vesti2

[strange linden]

How good is Nayuta? Her 9sec invul seems nice

[umbral belfry]

champ when

[atomic wolf]

inreturned to the game

and i see nayuta broken

its time to limit test my opponent

[quartz rover]

she's funny but not broken imo

[atomic wolf]

9 second of invul

good thing she has trash burstgen

[quartz rover]

yeah, and her main damage is from burst but I think her charge attack is too slow

every 1.8 fixed seconds during burst for 10 seconds

I've had cases where she out dpsed my redhood and cindy in pve, she may hit hard in pvp

[upper zephyr]

can someone build me a new rookie team, feel like jackal noah cindy thelm centi is a bad lineup

[atomic wolf]

what the hell bro your team is form 2018

[atomic wolf]

noah (optimal) new vesti thelm red hood

the optimal slot is anything that gives you 2rl

[covert lintel]

When fahren retired

[atomic wolf]

so you lose if they stat check you

but for everything else you win by default

[umbral belfry]

[upper zephyr]

how about if new vesti isnt built

[atomic wolf]

ok so you know uh

give up

cinderella is out of pvp meta now

vesti does what cinderella do but significantly better

[jagged mesa]

@umbral belfry @bleak marsh @placid bloom im gonna crash out

[umbral belfry]

LMAO

[atomic wolf]

if you use cinderella for that team, not only you have to compensate for 2rl but ALSO, also, make sure she survives

[umbral belfry]

one day you'll get the frame ash

[atomic wolf]

anything with new vesti basically wipes you

[jagged mesa]

eos

[umbral belfry]

[jagged mesa]

at least i have this today

[atomic wolf]

how long have tou been playing the game

[jagged mesa]

i started like dec 20 last year

[atomic wolf]

hilarious

[jagged mesa]

why is that funny

[bitter trout]

What team would Nayuta be best in for CA?

[atomic wolf]

i started november last year

just 20 levels ahead of you

[jagged mesa]

i mean that sounds about right

[atomic wolf]

so the progress sync up as i expected

[jagged mesa]

yeah

[hybrid fox]

[jagged mesa]

40k cp

[umbral crown]

Go

Or i will do the thing

[jagged mesa]

wat thing

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

The thing

[jagged mesa]

anything but the thing

[umbral crown]

[jagged mesa]

[atomic wolf]

yeah um guys can you talk about edates in dm

[umbral crown]

[jagged mesa]

ok well no more chasing all-time lows, im tired of this chapter

cp blastin my way through woohoo

[wild hemlock]

We did it chat

[jagged mesa]

what edates

what i miss

[umbral belfry]

grats! you booped them

one day I'll get a fancy star in my frame too

[placid bloom]

what if Piggy gets a pie pentakill run

[wild hemlock]

It only took me 100 ca seasons to get my 2nd win after getting my first win in like the 2nd ca season

[umbral belfry]

me soon

except I won the 4th season

now I just hang around top 8 or 4

[atomic wolf]

hime please drop out of my bracket

[jagged mesa]

i need u to win again so i can get gold frame

[umbral belfry]

just waiting my turn

[atomic wolf]

my mom is kinda homeless i need the champion frame

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

saying this when there's bigger whales is crazy

[atomic wolf]

you have a 64% win rate into top 8

diabolical

[umbral belfry]

math

[placid bloom]

when will you get your pie pentakill run

[umbral belfry]

hey that's not bad at all actually

[umbral belfry]

my role is to sacc myself for pies

[umbral crown]

Next season, trust the process

[umbral belfry]

[atomic wolf]

whos nouey

[umbral belfry]

pls censor

they don't pvp

[atomic wolf]

im tired of playing nikke alrwady i came back to leviathan caught between siren and mori making out

its time to limit test league of legends

[umbral belfry]

[oak hatch]

Is my opponents team winnable with the team I have?

[atomic wolf]

do you have anything else to replace naga

[oak hatch]

Have this + biscuit but cp falls into 190k-205k range

[atomic wolf]

jackal

[oak hatch]

Doesn’t jackal take b1 from red hood?

[atomic wolf]

lol?

you see why I placed her behind red hood

red hood has burst 1 prio this way

She doesnt take shit

[oak hatch]

Oh I didn’t know it works like that, thx for the info

I’ll try it after reset thx for the team

[covert lintel]

Only 7CD increase per 2 hours

[atomic wolf]

more rations

[oak hatch]

Would this be winnable too if both teams are 3 rl? Made cp a little higher because he has a different team which puts me at a big deficit

[atomic wolf]

if your noah dies you basically give up

[oak hatch]

Any way to fix this while bringing cp up?

[atomic wolf]

there is simply no solution if you are cp gapped you are cp gapped

you can play safe with noah biscuit but pray it doesnt drag down that much

3rl noah biscuit is acceptable if the opponent doesnt have siren or combat power gap

[oak hatch]

They have siren so I guess biscuit isn’t an option?

[atomic wolf]

if they have siren but no noah

[placid bloom]

his team is Cinderella p1 with 2 feeders

[atomic wolf]

you basically wing it

[placid bloom]

you have room to CP pad

[atomic wolf]

ah yes

[placid bloom]

also you're not even at deficit

it's like 10%, there's no penalty

you can RH p1, she will get stunned by Mermaid before she can B2 so Noah will B2

[oak hatch]

Omg keep leaking someone’s phone number by accident

[atomic wolf]

rookie arena

also nice phone number

ill give them some pizza

[oak hatch]

😭

[atomic wolf]

no seriously i will order pizza forward to that number

try 30

[swift mango]

My rookie doesn't have a whale or even dolphin now... This doesn't feel good. Maybe my next SpA would have 10 whales

[placid bloom]

nvm your Noah gets stunned by Mermaid no matter where you put her because Noah will shoot p2 and Mermaid will get taunted by the splash

since you won't have cs invested yet

[oak hatch]

When I put jackal at p1 she got stunned instead of Noah but no red hood buff then

[atomic wolf]

yeah uh

try other b2

which is your centi

[covert lintel]

Nah, your spa will be the same guy as rookie
Try to go down rank 7 or below at reshuffle if you want to see whale

[oak hatch]

This looks fine?

Or centi in p1

[atomic wolf]

i give up

[oak hatch]

lol srry

[swift mango]

Bet

[atomic wolf]

mpreg

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit help plz

[atomic wolf]

listen just run centi noah vesti red hood jackal

[warm monolith]

Also ive perfected my account

[covert lintel]

You want to fight whale right?
Then you should intentionally make a joke def that's easily breached on the last day

[atomic wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/did-you-pray-today-gif-3738474142861396515 ahh skin

[warm monolith]

She ma wife♥️

[swift mango]

I don't want to find whale and that last day rank down doesn't change anything from what I know.

I have seen bunch of people getting that.

[covert lintel]

Oh really?

[swift mango]

Kinda stupid to get rank down for nothing and had to attack back.

[swift mango]

On the off chance you thought you got to meet whale because you ranked down, it's even worse feeling.

LD had been c5-7 in his bracket forever but the whale just keep coming and never left.

[covert lintel]

Is he taking over c1 on the last day?

[swift mango]

Now you are being assure. Try to take your level 751 whale C1 then.

[covert lintel]

My rookie doesn't have a whaler now
Everything is below my lvl

Or maybe they completely abandoned the rookie so i can't find them?

[fathom rock]

Nero

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/perfection-perfect-michael-fassbender-magneto-x-men-first-class-gif-2260686001358167676

[tropic summit]

you can cook your own teams against that, it's fairly easy

T1 has no SG pressure, it's slow, put anything that can benefit from feed, care about siren stun so run a 2RL p1 b1
T2 has no SG pressure, very slow, punishable by anything, ensure you run biscuit with defender p1 or nayuta p1
T3 same thing, only extra bit is naga giving you pressure in p5, so account that with jackal and linked units in p1 and p5, nayuta or biscuit locked team beware of scarlet so avoid running anything that doesn't wipe 1hitko and don't use auto attacking teams

your real deal here is just bothering with CP and adjusting speed, pick the 2 teams you feel more comfortable with after considering the above and you should be fine

[fathom rock]

My moran nero team finally unbricked

[tropic summit]

vesti diffed

[finite prawn]

Does nayuta change slots for any of these teams? Or have they changed overall?

[upper grove]

I haven't checked pvp in a while, any new team comps with Nayuta P1?

[tropic summit]

she could but you'd need to remake the teams

she's situational and less generic purpose than what you running

[tropic summit]

a slightly better slow cindy
variations of biscuit locked teams without needing biscuit
filler p2 that is not easily killed by splash
flex p1 B2 that is not easily killed

[finite prawn]

Ah alright so all of these would stay the same?

[upper grove]

interesting, thanks for the explanation

for slow cindy, is it basically removing the need for blanc there? I assume that still needs biscuit because of rumani b1

[tropic summit]

ye freeing up is particularly useful

[tropic summit]

for the time being yeah, if they're broken you can make something new in case

[warm monolith]

Alr,i go for T1:
Naga/thelm/centi/rap/rumani with 788k cp
T2:
TBay/biscuit/cindy/trina/rapirh with 805k cp
T3(a bit of a mess but):
Noah/sbs/alice/tlap/siren with 818k cp
You might check my and enemys cps so i didnt make a mistake,and i think i reached 2RL on T1?

[tropic summit]

assemble the teams and post matchup

[warm monolith]

T1:

Crown/siren/cindy/rapirh/thelm 907021
Naga/thelm/centi/rapunzel/rumani 788k
T2:

Doro/tBay/tlap/redhood/miharabc 913942
TBay/biscuit/cindy/trina/rapirh 805k
T3:
Liter/naga/scarlet/alice/sbs 946759
Noah/sbs/alice/tlap/siren 818k
First teams are enemys seconds are mine,couldnt share a ss atm:(

[tropic summit]

looking at your box here, your B2 options are still very lacking

#pvp-arena message

for the time being

run jackal scarlet siren blanc laplaceT in union shooting range and tell me if scarlet is linked

if she is then tell me the CP of that team

seems like a great time for you to get nayuta

[fleet acorn]

what was the team to beat this? mine is inconsistent

[tropic summit]

condition: vestiTU has lowest HP between linked units, vestiTU is linked

else

vestiTU blanc RH centi jackal, vestiTU lowest HP between RH and jackal

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit allright,ill do it some time later,btw i did get nayuta too but im building her rn

[fleet acorn]

will have to try with centi, both RH and helm are c7 with 40-50% atk on Ols

[tropic summit]

that's fine too, how built is vestiTU in terms of OLs?

11%CS and a bit of atk% is recommended

[tropic summit]

k, enemy requirements are the following:

T1 767k
T2 773k
T3 800k

[fleet acorn]

i didnt finish my vesti coz started to save rocks for nayuta and liberalio

[tropic summit]

holy f she's more than gud enough

[fleet acorn]

really? i wanted to swap that ele and charge dmg for more atk

[tropic summit]

keep the CS%, ele would still be nice to punish wind code, notably noah and blanc

[fleet acorn]

yeah i intended to keep the CS and ammo

[tropic summit]

would be nice to remove that charge damage and crit dmg for ele and atk though

[fleet acorn]

seems to work, gonna atk 2 more times, thx

[tropic summit]

yeah you deleted them

[fleet acorn]

oh i forgot about that crit

[fleet acorn]

100% winrate, thx

[fleet acorn]

so instead of 4atk% i should aim for
4 ammo
4 cs
2 atk
2 ele?

[tropic summit]

2 atk and 2 ele is enough to be lethal in indom situations
any extra ammo is welcome extra DPS pre reload
any extra CS% is extra DPS in general but also faster hitting thresholds (e.g. 2RL or 2.5RL)

personaly i'd go 4 cs 2 ammo rest atk and ele

[fleet acorn]

at least how many bullets in battle?

[tropic summit]

but don't throw away ammo until you fixed the bad lines

get rid of crit and charge dmg imo

for 2 atk lines

[fleet acorn]

yeah thats my focus after i OL liberalio

[tropic summit]

sounds good

[fleet acorn]

only 27 rocks left

[tropic summit]

either way she's already pretty strong, nothing really urgent to fix

[fleet acorn]

nayuta been greedy on OLs

[tropic summit]

[keen vapor]

Rail, I'm stuck I can't reach 102 core dust

[quartz rover]

@flat fern has aldaria been attacking you? They haven't even tried to attack me

[tropic summit]

who's blocking da way?

[keen vapor]

34-23 I think....

I need to reach all the way to 27 cuz I skipped last boss campaign/one of the defense battle

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/vnc-vanitas-vanitas-no-carte-case-study-vanitas-anime-gif-4149985600393580798

[keen vapor]

Why you react like that

[tropic summit]

cuz it's bayover

[keen vapor]

I'm 5 away five!

[tropic summit]

only choice left is rerolling...

but leave your emilia behind when you do

[keen vapor]

Kisama

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-anime-girl-running-anime-running-running-love-live-gif-22710773

[flat fern]

think so, haven't checked for a bit

[austere marsh]

Is the ideal OL for Vesti just cs atk ele?

[tropic summit]

cs x4, ammo x2, remaining can be ele, atk, some even go for a bit of crit rate

[quartz rover]

Ammo I think

Doesn't she need ammo to like double hit or something

[keen vapor]

Is not double hit
Is to not run out of ammo on full burst

[warm monolith]

Uhh,scar is second highest final atk but it doesnt give the buff

She gives it to tlap

[tropic summit]

that's probably due to atk% OLs

as those also count

[keen vapor]

My Vesti full ele Rail

[ivory violet]

Gratz on the dub is this your first CA win?

[tropic summit]

at least she's gud for pve

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

[wild hemlock]

2nd

[oak hatch]

@tropic summit could you help me make a new team for rookie arena please? My rank 1 changed their team from yesterday and now I can’t break through it

[tropic summit]

looks like they added speed to it, can you click on start battle and show their units that appear? need to confirm dolls (you don't need to run the match, only show the units)

[tropic summit]

they're getting helm treasured it seems

now post your box again and let's see what you can run

[tropic summit]

post this setup:

vesti naga rh trina jackal

and let's see CP

[oak hatch]

Their team from yesterday is the same but they swapped in jackal instead of rrh now

[haughty mortar]

Did not work

[keen vapor]

I'm going to guess firepower issue

[tropic summit]

now you'd be in CP range and decent lethal dmg, only 1 last thing to check

run that same team in union shooting range or a campaign map, enter pause menu and click on VestiTU, check she has "jumping jackal" buff

[oak hatch]

She has it

[tropic summit]

oke you're good to go then, record the match if you wanna, should be a wipe

vestiTU temperance
naga vigor
rh any
trina any
jackal quantum

if you wanna min/max cubes

[oak hatch]

Rip vesti got stunned

[atomic wolf]

@tropic summit im back for limit testing

[lunar pawn]

does this team work?

[atomic wolf]

after training intensively in dota 2

nah just kidding my team still works fine

[lunar pawn]

or is my blanc getting obliterated before b2

[tropic summit]

ye that's fine can be fixed

jackal vestiTU naga trina liter

[atomic wolf]

i don't need shit, but i do want to know how good nayuta is

[tropic summit]

situational, opens up some different variations in CA, can be worked around in SParena

not gamebreaking, not bad either

[austere marsh]

Is 16% CS for Vesti pretty good or should I aim for more?

[tropic summit]

15% is the golden number, anything more helps though

[oak hatch]

Fine to hit?

[atomic wolf]

dang

[tropic summit]

checking CP

[austere marsh]

Got it, gotta focus on Ammo now

[tropic summit]

yup is good you can run it

should fix the stun now, tbh i was hoping you'd be 1.5RL but it seems even with cindy p1 that team didn't hit that speed, was a good test

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit so,whats the teams,do i use mine?

[oak hatch]

Can’t seem to beat it still

[tropic summit]

oh it's a linked crown, need to kill feed

[tropic summit]

jackal vestiTU trina RH noah, gonna need to check CP again

[limpid urchin]

How much does consoles from the body label shop contribute to increasing power?

[tropic summit]

you're 6k behind in CP unfortunately

[oak hatch]

do i try my last attempt anyway with it?

[tropic summit]

so what's happening here for you to understand:

• you can't use any other weapon class than sniper rifle or RL
• you're also cut off from CP although if you do so

once you've more CP on either vestiTU, jackal, RH, noah or trina you can hit them

[finite prawn]

Thank you

[oak hatch]

Okay I see, I’ll just hold off for now then, thx for help again

[tropic summit]

yes indom vestiTU outrades that kind of stall

[tropic summit]

assemble these teams and show CP

[oak hatch]

@tropic summit I just threw my highest cp characters at it with jackal and Noah and it somehow worked

[tropic summit]

eh good job, sacc'ed noah, got naga stunned and B2'ed with RH, i guess that works

[shell hazel]

look Rail I'm pve main now

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit what do you think abt this team

[tropic summit]

rookie? SParena? CA?

[gritty ridge]

CA

[tropic summit]

bad, scratch it

[gritty ridge]

Why

[oak hatch]

Is the Nikke placement fine or should I adjust it for next time?

[tropic summit]

wasted a noah and a jackal for nothing

[shell hazel]

there's no Noah there 👀

jackal though - yes, wasted helmT 🙂

[gritty ridge]

Noah isnt on there and you can run this without sacrificing anything but nero moran

[tropic summit]

it's actually fine for that matchup, but you're getting noah killed, naga is catching stun and you're bursting with RH (B1 + B2) and vestiTU

this is actually fine as a glass cannon fast burst for you for now

[tropic summit]

helmT and jackal*

(which is even worse)

[gritty ridge]

Observe

[shell hazel]

that is accurate

[eager mountain]

im 200% sure that cindy anis > scar cindy unless this train somehow has core

[shell hazel]

my s.anis is not built

work in progress 🙂

[eager mountain]

well doubt shes now worth to build for pvp anymore

[shell hazel]

I frogot to xmaiden burst at the end also 🐸

[tropic summit]

change T1 and you've a solid lineup with the rest

[warm monolith]

T1 755k
T2 859k

[tropic summit]

requirements:

T1 767k
T2 773k
T3 800k

T1 is off, gonna need to drop drakeT or lapT

[gritty ridge]

Rail i dont wanna build nero moran

[tropic summit]

don't then

CA is a waste of resources, why not

[warm monolith]

Draket lower cp

[shell hazel]

I reset my nero tbh Bigboi

so you don't really need her, just moran/noah/helmt like everyone else is

[crystal flicker]

Imagine

[tropic summit]

oke remove drakeT and put SBS instead, then you can run the match

other team looks fine

[warm monolith]

790k,allright

[gritty ridge]

Also you say I used to make weird cooks and what happened to em, I come out with one and you just shut it down

[tropic summit]

weird cook and actually working weird cook is 2 different things

you can def. do something better for T1

rest leave as is, they're gud

[finite prawn]

Is there a thread with best ol stats for each unit?

[shell hazel]

I mean tbf it's CA you can run what you feel like!

[tropic summit]

prydwen for the most part is reliable, any other specific unit you're in doubt ask here

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit In T2 Bay shined But in T1

[shell hazel]

there isn't a wrong or right answer for CA - it's not a game mode which really matters

if you want to watch miranda kill stuff, send her in CA 🙂

[gritty ridge]

Yeah but how does it not work? Anne buff+miranda buff should make maiden very lethal

[warm monolith]

I almost wiped them out before using burst,good job man

[warm monolith]

Also on T3 i won,i did noah/naga/rapirh/alice/centi

[tropic summit]

crown siren and rrh will suicide on scarlet afterall

[warm monolith]

Remember the guy who we won against him repeadetly? Next is him again

[tropic summit]

@swift mango one of your maiden believers

[tropic summit]

ask blood as he's expert with mirandaT, but iirc you need to time it so that maiden does not shoot when mirandaT applies crit buff, else it goes away from autos

[warm monolith]

Here,i think i could win against T3 with noah/biscuit/sbs/thelm/rumani if no deficit

[haughty mortar]

Probably. Anyway to circumvent it? What is the exact team order and cubes?

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit also ive 10/10/10 my rh,she is 138k cp rn,if can id be glad to use her,all ols

[tropic summit]

time to put your bay to work

[tropic summit]

show CP

Requirements:

• T1 613k
• T3 704k

[warm monolith]

Why did you think i wanted to pull rh desperately

[warm monolith]

T1 731k
T3 817k meets the requirements

[gritty ridge]

I tested maiden+miranda, her 1st nuke doesnt get buffed but her 2nd nuke does

[tropic summit]

oke you good to go

[tropic summit]

wows, then unleash it on the CA and see how it goes

[warm monolith]

Hey,vesti really is something,thanks a lot @tropic summit:)

[warm monolith]

I was down to like 23rd place this season,thanks to you im slowly returning to my place

[tropic summit]

you need to fix your invest

your utilities are still low on CP, then you can improve your defense teams

[gritty ridge]

I will once I can build her

Ideally id have miranda link over helm, but id need alot of atk

[warm monolith]

Yeah,ill return to building pvp units once i make my Bay 200k cp

[tropic summit]

...you really building her for CA?

[warm monolith]

TBay almost 200k on lvl 426 good cp or no?

[gritty ridge]

Maiden? Why not

[tropic summit]

...

[gritty ridge]

Can also use her as a 2nd scar in spa

[tropic summit]

............

[tropic summit]

as i said before, your utilities... but do what you want with Bay, it's your waifu

[austere marsh]

Bay worth it 💜

[warm monolith]

Yeah,cuz she my wife♥️

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit can maiden bypass bay because she nukes twice?

[tropic summit]

you can bypass once her cover is down

[gritty ridge]

1st nuke should take it, no?

[tropic summit]

probably

i've very little data on maiden nuke

[gritty ridge]

And then with miranda 2nd nuke is even stronger

[tropic summit]

you shall be the pilot of this

[gritty ridge]

[tropic summit]

inb4 you discovering a new meta this very moment

[gritty ridge]

I wanted to find a use for miranda

And i thought maiden might work cuz she has 2 nukes

[tropic summit]

well it's worth a shot, if you've tested it and you can get ensured mirandaT buff on the nuke to make it into a crit, might aswell be interesting

[gritty ridge]

And it turns out she does, so once I finish sg team and mihara/rumani ill work on maiden

[tropic summit]

the question is how it does against the usual archetypes

[shell hazel]

bigboi - where is my loan?

[gritty ridge]

Thats what I wanna test, specifically against nero moran and slow cindy

It loses to scar jack

[gritty ridge]

I ate it

[tropic summit]

nero moran you probably won't be lethal
scar will delete maiden
vesti indom will be indommed before you're lethal
noise noah cindy bisc rumani are on noise B1 when you're on B3, you're not lethal
SGs will be lethal via rosanna

...good luck

[shell hazel]

how can I get Naruto gacha skin now then?

[gritty ridge]

Feet

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/theres-only-one-way-to-do-it-joey-essex-all-star-shore-s1e2-theres-no-other-way-to-do-it-gif-26192490

[shell hazel]

feet? your feet?

[runic spear]

anyone know a comp that counters this?

[tropic summit]

bigboi's lady-clients feet

[keen vapor]

First of all, how many ammo your Scarlet has?

[shell hazel]

I'll accept it

bigboi's harem can work their feet so I can get Naruto gacha skin

[shut seal]

Guys what’s the optimal ol gear skills for Vesti Tactical?

[tropic summit]

vestiTU blanc rh centi jackal (vestiTU has lower max HP than RH and jackal)
scar trina rh centi jackal

[gritty ridge]

I think it should be lethal v nero moran, other than that you can basically treat it as a 2nd scar team

Anne is a very large steroid

[tropic summit]

lethal against a moran B1? good luck

that thing can survive an emi on 2 buffs

[keen vapor]

2 ammo 4 CS
A combo of attack ele

[gritty ridge]

We can only know by testing, and idk anyone who can test it other than me building it

[shell hazel]

eh I still think 4 CS is too much

[tropic summit]

the man is on a mission

[shell hazel]

2 CS seems fine on vesti

just send it next CA bigboi and give us recordings, it doesn't matter if it wins

[tropic summit]

da hell this is spoken like a true pve main

[shell hazel]

part of the fun is that you get to see it fight

[tropic summit]

hippo finally converting it seems

[shell hazel]

I'm pve main now

[tropic summit]

he's been tainted

[shell hazel]

I blame ....

who do I blame?

Rail - help me out

[tropic summit]

the most pve main of us all, @swift mango

[haughty mortar]

I will check

[shell hazel]

it's agreed 🤝

[gritty ridge]

If I dont have any atk on maiden she wont link and wont get miranda buff

She needs some invest to work

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

i'll ask it just one more time

[shell hazel]

no one is investing OG maiden

[tropic summit]

are you REALLY sure you wanna do this?

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-nikke-maiden-maiden-gif-1530733039376500593

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/hell-emiya-thats-hell-youre-walking-into-gif-27052445

[shell hazel]

this may answer that ^

[gritty ridge]

Rail i want a reason to use miranda

[tropic summit]

get emil- oh.

[shell hazel]

isn't being her husband enough of a reason? 😄

[tropic summit]

no but i can appreciate the man

[gritty ridge]

I want to use her and her be useful

[tropic summit]

he's loyal to his waifu at last

he's finally decided to also grow up from bready

[shell hazel]

trophy waifu - no need to be useful

[gritty ridge]

Her 40% atk buff isnt as good as liter burst

So she needs a unit that can crit from her buff

[tropic summit]

someone that charges a shot wouldn't lose her crit buff

snow white / maxwell if only they didn't take years to load

[gritty ridge]

I thought abt nayuta actually

[shell hazel]

me: yes I fully understand what is going on

[tropic summit]

da hell

[gritty ridge]

Natuta has infinite ammo during burst so she gets miranda buff on all shots

[shell hazel]

don't ask me man I just work here (or do I?)

bigboi - send for my horse

if it's called Trombe I'll appreciate it more

[placid bloom]

If your Nayuta has more Atk than your B3 then your B3 are bricked

[gritty ridge]

Do hwat?

[shell hazel]

my horse

send for it - I need it

[gritty ridge]

Dont underestimate the 60% atk nabu

[shell hazel]

Rail - can I do this yet?

[tropic summit]

that thing took me way longer than it needed

[dire root]

Rip, missed the fact the thad a stun.

[tropic summit]

true cancer awaits you

[dire root]

I guess soda stuns

Because I am pretty sure no one else on that team can stun

[shell hazel]

I think the answer may still be no lol

[tropic summit]

yes 2 enemy units are stunned randomly, unless she's taunted

[shell hazel]

we come back later

[dire root]

Oh, so it was RNG that it hit scarlet?

Well there is no real defense then

actually I guess noah could beat the stun

with burst speed

[tropic summit]

soda is B1, they're on 2RL

B1 hits before you B2

[dire root]

I don't think so

[tropic summit]

you're still going to be gambling she doesn't stun noah or your other chains

[dire root]

I guess they probably have cubes that put them into 2 RL, and I have no way of knowing their cubes.

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit can I run this

[tropic summit]

holy mother of god

[ivory violet]

I'd bet money they run cubes and know what they're doing

[dire root]

Could have Scarlet and noah on the same team, then she has to hit both in order to win

[tropic summit]

3% feed is granted from any team, they're 98% even without cube you promote them to 2RL

[gritty ridge]

You dont like?

[tropic summit]

where's the miranda

[gritty ridge]

Can't run her with snow

[tropic summit]

then this is worthless

no miranda no party

[gritty ridge]

That team should theoretically work tho, right?

[tropic summit]

she hits only p1 and p2...

[gritty ridge]

Doro b1

[tropic summit]

doro is dead after 2RL

[gritty ridge]

While linked?

[tropic summit]

very dead...

look at the archetypes i told you about

[gritty ridge]

Does doro even have to live for her burst dmg distribution to work?

[dire root]

And game crash

of course

I think the game is just going to crash more and more with each update until the game is unplayable for anyone

[tropic summit]

run that team in rookie and you'll see

[dire root]

5 more updates before crashes start happening every 5 minutes

[gritty ridge]

Hmm

[shell hazel]

I've basically never had a crash

it's so rare I can't really remember having one

[quartz rover]

Which do you think wins

[tropic summit]

do you've bay? that's unsafe because blanc can die to scarlet s2

[quartz rover]

I do

[tropic summit]

jackal vestiTU helmt rumani bay

[shell hazel]

it's rookie - 2RL bay or noah = gg

[tropic summit]

depends, non biscuit noah and bay can actually die to indom 2RL scarlet

[tropic summit]

in this case it's just glass cannon so he'll be fine

[shell hazel]

they don't have indom though

[coral ivy]

This is what I played at night

[coral ivy]

this

[shell hazel]

that's nice

[tropic summit]

that's great

[austere marsh]

That?

[quartz rover]

That was kinda close

[shell hazel]

right, time to knock out those new lost sectors

[shell hazel]

oh lmao it was as well

you got noah - right?

[quartz rover]

No

[shell hazel]

vesti burst gen is always a bit questionable I'd run biscuit with bay etc

[tropic summit]

did rumani just say F you to bay and refuse link?

[shell hazel]

xmaiden?

[shell hazel]

bug arena ofc

[tropic summit]

intended behaviour surely 🍿

[shell hazel]

this would be safu-er

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit why tf did she attack p4

[tropic summit]

LMAO NOT EVEN LETHAL

300 years to charge for THAT is downright comedy