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Right now Iβm only seeing +-25 ish for my server range
not sure, i think i had someone in range of 200 servers when i first started because we all started after stellar blade collab and one dude at top had eve and raven while also being higher than us
but it was literally first bracket created for new players that started around mid Sora banner, so idk what was going on there
MiharaOS passive didn't work with Rumani and Anis?
I've been enjoying AFK SPA for few seasons
It's gonna be ass if they decide to bring Emi player to my bracket
Wtf. When I read the description "new cook"
I thought "this would be some cn/jp cooks anyway" but this set is so fresh lmao
His fault is not following 1.7RL gang
See. This is why Pepper S tier pvp 
Wow wtf those are some unique teams
I remember a guy cooked Vesti Noir cuz his vesti had no ammo
Anyway, good rng can easily bring u to top 8
That guy will be cooked tonight
Every team has its soft and hard counters. CA isn't about building 5 teams that counter 5 other teams but rather building 5 teams that on average wins the most. I haven't had time to analyze those 5 cooks but if they were able to make it to top 8, they must have decent general performance. We'll see how they fare against 7 other cookie cutter comps though
exactly my toughts.
you are not looking for counters or just copy paste your enemy teams, you are looking for something that can be prepared for everything in general.
Thats why i always look for unconventional tactics.
i think theres a person on blabla that keeps track of each seasons results, which units picked how many times, etc
ill look for it once im done here
I feel like I can do some adjustment to Noah VesTac comp
It's a data point for sure but not exactly the most accurate. Meta changes as new units get introduced between seasons and winning comps aren't always guaranteed to be the best. RNG is still the bigger factor. I remember one season where I got eliminated in top 64 due to unlucky hard counter matchups only for that player to get immediately eliminated the next round. Then the following season I ran the exact same team (or more specifically, I forgot to update my teams) and won.
@broken lark check spa
π

Could any explain these 2 to me?
Usually s1/s2 refers to skills, but here does the second one mean helm treasure phase 2+max skill 1?
idk what you mean
i copied my enemy teams
got to top 8
if copy doesn't let you win,
just copy better
anybody got eyes on piggy vs eli
does cindy cut through nero moran comps in general?
sec, in manu tower right now. ill grab screenies in a sec
Cindy Blanc should win, except this one where I go against RNG himself
Cindy w/o Blanc lose against stall
i see
Mihara Blanc can beat stall, Noah Biscuit dies on 2nd rotation after procs gone
Cindy Blanc should win against that, unless he fighting RNG
is that by virtue of indom or the damage buff+ heal
yeah true
vs Mihara DoT + Cinderella
But I lose tho
is mihara dot even going to trigger
She should
and if they survive initial hit do cindy normal attacks have enough juice to kill
there's no way his Cinderella has more Atk than Mihara 
Cinderella nuke probably only does like half their HP, but the DoT should burn them faster than Mana + Rapu can heal
by the time Biscuit proc runs out their Helm burst lifesteal also ran out
so is that blanc cindy mihara team supposed to be slow as heck
makes sense actually
plus with biscuit and then indom the stall team has 0 pressure
should be easy cleanup
okok
I just realized Piggy stall has no 2nd rotation 
because Bay instead of Rapu
40s B1 
hmm
seem like slugfest
seems that way 
but LapT maybe hits hard enough to take out Noise + Noah in 7s
nvm
Noah never dying
it's just both teams do peepee damage on 1st burst rotation then shooting range
Moran p5 though, Moran can solo Cinderella
when it comes down to the 1v1
defender can't kill Moran at low HP
and she can live long enough to actually B1 again and lifesteal
unkillable 
I favor bottom
i reach the same conclusion, but for all the wrong reasons 
what about the rest of the matchups then
idk how jackal plays against 4sg + mg
but it's not defending SG
it's attacking SG?
4 SG doing 2 volley each on Noise before Ros dispel
feed is 27.6%, not enough to push to 1RL
good point
if Noise lives to B1 she beats Ros though
guaranteed
5 defending SG into Centi p5 though 
Centi Anis goodbye
see you at 3RL
just to confirm, left is defending right is attacking in CA right? i always get confused
gotcha
i didnt have it 5-0 but i am betting bottom, but what do i know 
this will be my 3rd time betting against vast majority this CA though
just wasted way too much time only to lose a match. ill grab the posts (same guy collects them each season) so maybe not ''most accurate'' but there appears to be an ongoing method to collect it. id go back and get it now but i dont wanna log in and start doom scrolling for a silly nayuta gif.
But yea, RNG is the biggest letdown in CA -spend an entire day to put 5 teams together, we'll fix the matches behind the scenes for shiny frames. enjoy!
ive seen a few mirror matches, now those were more entertaining
I bet you do
high ammo scarlet is good for pve and for indom, a bit worse for glass cannon because both on attack and defense you need to consider siren is there or not.
mind you it's not gamebreaking, more a matter of convenience
i see, thank you.
If you have enough atk you can just kill siren with counters tbh
60% atk scar can probably have as much ammo as she wants
not if siren is linked or on temperance with high core
then again that's a CA issue, in SParena you can tailor as needed
ah yes the very common 60% atk scarlet 
You dont have? Must be a new player smh
Thats a 220k scar in CA

Rail 
I really need rocks to roll some ATK lines
Hero drives me crazy, ignore his name change
This is ok right
I commit too many mistakes to trust my own judgement
Emilia nuke is too slow for my liking
@gray bolt is this you
?
Anis or ada for doll
Wishlist Laplace c'mon 
Bro shes been in my wishlist since day 1

I just now got her less than a month ago off missilis mold
Centi
Centi has a doll
I know your centi is still blue doll
Im asking about blue doll
Why would I put a purple on them if they dont have a doll
Blue doll is for additional kits from combine
Not until every unit has one
You ruined your own doll investment like that
You need to prepare for Nayuta Liberalio dolls too
Ada 
Im not gonna sr0 a unit
I have more than the expected amount of sr15, I think im fine
Tell him @umbral crown 
Neither are rl doll
@crystal flicker say yes
What's Moran doing there
Tanking Drake
Usually I just Biscuit but I really can't now
Rakuen, yes or no
She's gonna get hit by Scarlet counter tho
No, I prefer 5 RL nikkes to kill trina before she burst
She has self healing 
Got Vesti on another team already
If you're going to be like that team, you should burst with helmT instead
vesti ez
LapT will do just fine, Noah gona tank Scarlet anyway
its what i do
Last time I didn't have time to life steal....@covert lintel
It's just precautions against 40lv diff
show the other teams
but 641?
That's different match
You enjoy
I ain't changing it
46*
You don't have Tokino Soda
Team 2 is different
He changed rosanna into siren so it will be so much ez
Also you know Rosa can dispell Trina's buff
Right, now I'm not on deficit
But I'm still not hopeful on life stealing
You can beat T3 easily with Siren P1/P2 and mirror the rest (Unless he has 11% team wide CS)
but, is echo rosa able to kill ?
Soda will die from counter, unlike Moran
You can try your current team
As long as noise is able to burst before stun i think it will be fine
I'm talking about Noah Cindy comp
Fine, helm
But I won't like it 
helm should nuke helm or drake in case scar atk is high enough
His noah biscuit lost to rosanna yesterday 

waos
Echo needs to pour some invesetment as PvP MA
I can't Siren P1 and mirror like nothing, you want me to lose
Siren P2 + Any 2RL comp
That team just needs some healing, and you can go burst with any b3

But yeh, if you believe that Moran is a good choice you can go
helm should have won that rosa team ez
Normally moran slot is for rapunzel
No
You guys want me to lose 
46 diff sir
Any sg becomes lethal
is not your cindy well invested?
SIREN STUN 
Rapunzel
Echo really questioning PvP MA
Huh
I'm more surprised you don't have fully invested stall comp
I need my last kits for new units
Also I'm resetting Nero
Rumani/Noah/Biscuit/HelmT/Cinderella
rosanna will kill helm anyway but noah will save you from b3 burst

He's planning to fully invest on chime
There's no Rosanna this reset
she mine nanoda
No, mine
SU better do her justice 
Any advice on any changes or even cubes?
If there's no Nanoda/kisama as one of her lobby lines I'll do a #1047834285287166013
yes but whats your cp with the comp
her skill desc better be 'KISAMAAA' too 
Honestly is at stat penalty diff
did you set these comps in sp already?

You have 18% CS on all of them?
Yeah they're my current SpA Arena
LaplaceT 19% CS / Rumani & Noah 16% / Noise 14% / Centi & Jackal 12% / Bay 11% / Biscuit 10% / HelmT 8% / Rapunzel 8% / Trina 5%
Rumani and Biscuit are low power
Moran and Noise are highly padded
That lightning symbol is strictly for 18% CS to reach 2.5RL
Oh
you can also use nikke work and put your charge speed
Yeah my ISP blocks the other website so I have to guess with Nikke Deck
oh
Lol
still those cs should put your team at 2.5
15% for 2.5RL
Oh, Customer Service has same initials as Charge Speed 
or just use dns
1.1.1.1 / 8.8.8.8
You already using Brave, what stopping you from using Warp / Google DNS
You win this time @covert lintel but I'll keep watching u π«΅ 
b3 before stun?
Put Noise first, else Siren P3-5 can stun your Noah
Those are already solid teams
all good then
RH Vesti lacking investment 
Yeah I just got Vesti yesterday
Gotta find time to optimize Vesti Rapi and RH
May the anniversary bless me
@keen vapor quick question and I'll stop bothering, are the cubes okay in your opinion?
Jackal should have quantum, so should be Rumani
I like Trina and Blanc with tempering cube but vigor is second best if not unlocked yet
I finally got 4th CS on noah today, just need some more attributes reroll to readh my goal I set out to do 1 month ago.
So if I dont have access to noah biscuit vesti hood rumani, whats the best way to deal with slow cindy
what
2RL
Blanc rumani biscuit mihara cindy team but I have trouble dealing with it because I have those other units in other teams
and I cant move them from the team they are on
why you bursting with lappy
rest is fine
noise noah helmt lappy moran, you're 2RL
nyuta kit wen?
tomorrow
but the character comes out today 
in 12 hours and 38 minutes
Rail - you fix 
Translate kudasai 
mein deutsch ist nicht gut
ε¬δΈζ
even reading just the first line already screams of broken
γNIKKE λͺ¨μ VIEW & μ€ν¬ μκ°γ
#NIKKE #μΊλ¦ν°μκ° #λμ ν #λͺ¨μ VIEW
λμ ν(Nayuta)
βοΈ λ¬΄κΈ°
- SMG : λλ₯΄λ°λ
βοΈ μ£Όμ νΉμ§ λ° μ€ν¬ ν¨κ³Ό
κΈ°μ΅ ν‘μλ₯Ό ν΅ν΄ μμ κ³Ό μκ΅°μ 곡격λ ₯μ κ°ννκ³
체λ ₯μ ν볡μν€λ μ§μν λμΌ.
λ²μ€νΈ μ€ν¬ μ¬μ© μ μκ΅°μ 곡격 ...
damn tell yourself at the start of the battle - cool line π
makima substitute 
if anything looks like she's good for core dmg too
a better naga p5 flex perhaps 
Yeah wtf 9s of indom at the start of battle is so obnoxiois
Support Type
Weapon
Autocannon
Burst Skill
II
Code
Wind Pressure
Maximum Ammo: 120
Reload Time: 1.50 sec
Effect on Target:
Attack Damage: +8.73%
Core Damage: +200%
Skill 1: Vision (Passive)
At the start of battle, grants the following to all allies:
[Boost] Critical Rate +19% (lasts until battle ends, applied once)
When Memory Effect activates, grants to all allies:
[Core Damage] +25.15% (lasts 15 sec)
[Basic Attack Damage] +30.16% (lasts until battle ends)
When Memory Effect activates, grants:
[Max HP] +25% (lasts until battle ends)
When Memory Effect activates, grants:
[Skill Damage] +150%
When Memory Effect activates, grants:
[Additional Damage] +380.46%
Skill 2: Martial Spirit (Passive)
When 3 stacks of Memory Effect are active:
[Boost] Critical Rate +14% (lasts 30 sec, cannot be removed)
When Memory Effect activates, grants:
[Skill Damage] +150%
When Memory Effect activates, grants:
[Additional Damage] +380.46%```
Then her burst is a 650% aoe and she hits super hard
As a 2?
yeah she's b2 supporter
where did the indomitable go here 
co-pilot chan screwed up
needs some spanking
There's 3 Pilgrims coming, right?
nayuta and liberalio for sure, pinocchio TBA

Here's on someone sent me on another server
honestly AI is so confidently wrong sometimes
self indom for 9s at start of battle can be useful, still needs the team to survive but it's a free moran/makima for the first 9s
now combine that with a biscuit'ed b1 and b3... 3 units unkillable at the start 
I saw heal, is that self heal
[Indomitability: Invincibility] [Lasts 9 seconds] [Activates once per battle]
When Memory Absorption is applied, grants all allies:
[Core Damage +25.15%] [Lasts 5 seconds]
[+30.16% of Caster's ATK] [Lasts 5 seconds]
[HP Recovery Distributed Equally] [Lasts 5 seconds]
When Memory Absorption is applied, grants self:
[Heals 25% of Own Max HP]
When using Full Charge Attack, if self is in Memory Burn state, deals to all enemies:
[Final ATK 150% Damage]
If the target is a Marked enemy, deals to the same enemy target:
[Additional Final ATK 380.46% Damage]```
self sustain even
ok nvm self heal 
And get even more dmg out of nayuta
Self heal then healing distributed equally 
wait unless shes like rem?
Might be overkill tbh
like 25% instant heal and share it? nah prolly like rem 
[Memory Absorption: Accuracy +1.4%] [Up to 30 stacks] [Immune to Stack Count Increase/Decrease effects] [Duration?] [Dispel Resistance?]
When Memory Absorption is applied, grants self:
[Effects based on Memory Absorption stack count] [Lower tier effects can stack]
Phase 1: If Memory Absorption count is 2 or more:
[ATK +15.2%] [Duration?]
Phase 2: If Memory Absorption count is 10 or more:
[ATK DMG +20.27%] [Duration?]
Phase 3: If Memory Absorption count is 30 or more:
[Core Damage +21.05%] [Duration?] ```
skill 2 should be this, kinda, not sure, probably official will be posted soon anyway
lol
equally shares hp recovery wut 
9s indom at battle start will make her pvp meta surely?
hmmm kit is interesting but her burst gen is gonna be annoying to deal with
atleast she isn't double feed smg
although a nuke on B2 is new
Its "when memory absorption takes effect" so its her skill 2 
if for w/e reason on RH buff that thing is lethal... 
If its healing 25% of own max hp every 3 seconds its kinda stupid no
yea but its over 5 seconds, so I guess that 25% shared to entire team over 5 seconds? 
There's eunhwa and mari who were little b2 nukes
healing ticks 
Replace nero
but the DR 
275% of final attack sounds like alot
charge speed is fixed though
If any, I'll put her on SG comp or even VesTac
a unit that can survive any punishment for 9s without any synergy and on her own while contributing a B2 nuke, personal damage, atk buff and gives heals? 
Yeh She's gonna messin with SG then

inb4 she has some innate burst gen at that 
with her immunity could there be a play that forces enemy to burst faster so they hit when she still immune?

Flex Crown is dead letsgo
ayo cindy p1 rising?
cindy and rumani can now each get a biscuit stack and nayuta is immortal anyway, team cannot be bursted anymore 
Wow 9 sec indom and nuke omg
It's too much risk against AOE nuke
non biscuit, biscuit locked team 
crow is defender, all things lead to crow alt 
biscuitless biscuit team
SG gonna struggle harder now
So she is a scarlet with indom and bursts faster cos at burst 2?
She is Mari with steroids
we could see some new interesting CA cooks with her
depends if lethal on single buff, either way at B2 opponent already needs to take dmg unless behind a noah or bay
Unkillable mari better description yea
She isn't targeted by Rosanna being supporter also
Yeah SG struggle is real
what's most broken is that she doesn't make herself immune, she is indom, so enemy would be shooting at her for 9s and not skipping
certainly a unit to play around with though
there isn't much that bypasses p1 to deal with it either
Blanc mihara still would win since they outlast her 9 secs

I think it's mostly saving a Noah or bay from one of the teams
She survives the nuke and just deal with the rest
i just want to use blanc on another team
Blanc mihara team is like 5 secs from biscuit+ 10 secs surely 9 secs from nayuta is not enough
She is like vesti with indom? A nuke + subsequent charged attacks
Yea but i want to use blanc on another team
to indom vesti or ein for example
I already have a place for her in my comp
I don't think her Nuke is enough to single wipe
pair her with rosa and kill everything on b1+b2 
The changed weapon looks like it hits all like vesti
wonder is rosa works against her, i guess she should 
Rosa remove attacker buff
yea... it's technically 2 enemies with highest attack
wouldn't be her when she is support though...
it depends who you run her with I think - and if you rolled a lot of atk or not
she can exceed atk of a badly built attacker or a supporter with less
Depends on your comp, easy fix is just bring 2 attacker to Nayuta's comp
3 sec into the fight she gets 30% attack for free and slightly more after another 3s
if s1 affects herself, says all allies

shhh im a spy 
π΅οΈ

Another meta
Let see about lib
Indom hmmmm 

Trying to make 19s indom?
recovery also interesting one, if i understood correctly: memory absorb ticks every 3s, when it takes effect she equally shares hp recovery with every ally, and recovers 25% of her final max hp as hp
so does it mean she heals 25/5 to each unit or just straight up 25?
i see
25% of her own max hp divide by 5 and also shares all healing given to her by other allies I.E helmT burst
Sounds good for Absolute comp
ye they don't even need to burst to delete you from the face of earth
Now I must overload Absolute as well 
fix your rosanna first 
nikke-to-die nikke-to-die nikke-to-die nayuta rosanna π it could be funny
Absolute only needs padding 
rosanna solves your defense issues too ya fool 
Is too hard and I need attack on two Pilgrims 
that sounds like a YOU issue 


ah, i see, ty for clarification
Where's my eunhwa
in a mold you haven't opened yet
I don't have mold atm
then i've bad news for you 
I just discovered Rush Duel available on duel link. Time to uninstall master duel lol... I did what I could to improve my deck to fit in the current format but the difference to meta is just too much especially my Gusto deck with not even a new Wind power card in 3 years. My gusto deck Used to be able to beat tier 1 decks randomly in 2022 but no dice now with everything being plus ultra as it is right now. Rush duel looks fun maybe it could make Yu-Gi-Oh good to play again.
Amongst my old decks, Only Shaddoll could win against virtually anything thanks to Winda.
But it's not something to be proud about.
What we thinking of Nayuta chat I dont think shes gonna be that usable
So how strong is nayuta
Better Makima
I see 9 sec indom
That doesn't say much is it? 
Not much she can do
Her strength doesn't do anything in the current meta except for Idk SG comps
Even for slow Cindy comps, Blanc is better cus Damage Taken
I could try some cooks without biscuit if I had makima. But yeah, Makima isn't meta so better than her doesn't mean anything. 
I wanna say Scar Jack but she doesnt have burst gen
Gay
1 buff + screen wipe 635% is strong
depends a lot on how strong her B2 output is...
a unit you can safely place in p1 and p5 has usage, the fact she can double as buffer is good
the main demerit is piss poor burst gen and feeds
You know Rail, that means my Elysion wishlist will be stuck at Maid Duo + Absolute for a long time 
She is no more than S in my book
a man must do what a man must do
farm rocks in surface exploration
Probably A once we fix tier list
From the wording, the buff applied before nuke
that's fair, definitely not as gamebreaking as vestiTU or helmT
but i'd wait for proper testing
The only way I think she can work is
That she is guaranteed to not die, is a B2, and is a supporter (does not take Biscu charge).
That can be used with Biscuit to avoid getting charge unintentionally stolen
ok so is it just me or does she seem broken for pvp
current meta can use an unkillable p1 or p2... even p5 to avoid wasting a biscuit, if anything plenty usage in SParena
did we have kits? 
cant die for 9 seconds and has AOE and healing built in
Makima suffers from this cus she steals Biscu
ye they're posted above, scroll up a bit
For nayuta yes
@swift mango kit #pvp-arena message
Best miner will be Moran 
Okay I will check new channels
I wonder if she kills slow cindy meta
Ah, easier to keep Emma alive....
Why
Absolute comp is counter of it
Because she can potentially out live it and kill the enemy team with AOE
like she doesn't take damage for 9 seconds and has built in sustain
with AOE
You can't outlive Blanc's Indom unit 
9s at 0RL is shorter than 10s at 4RL
She doesn't dies*
Doubt
She takes damage
9 second is shorter than FB and doesnt even include charge time
Well one thing I know for sure is she probably hits quite hard as a B2 and depending on the range of the Burst she may or may not be good
Yeah, Nayuta is new Slow Cindy p5.
Rumani +Cindy+midhara+Biscuit+Nayuta
is 100% win rate agaisnt Scarlet now. 
She also buffs so she is pretty much Crown v2/MastM v2 as offburst

Nayuta is the only smg that can be used if you roll 4x cs
Blanc gets to hang out somewhere else
Rumani on P1 is brick
How does Midhara get killed in P3
Doesn't matter in Arena. Nayuta is new meta here thanks to being supporter with Indom effect, It's done deal.
Wow very bold early take here
If you worried about Siren then give Nayuta p1, doesnt matter
nah, her cs is fixed
Can this team even win Stall?
No dmg
As someone who played Slow Cindy only less than Merry I know how it works.
Assuming mihara and nayuta damage is enough
Assuming Mihara gets killed
cs doesn't have an effect when she changes weap?
Just basically what I needed to beat Scarlet consistently.
I mean Helm probably will nuke her
unless i dont understand how fixed charge speed works, says fixed at 1,8s charge time, so i would guess it's unchangeable?
Mihara P3 is still idk
I mean its the slow comp, if the other team is at all faster they will kill mihara with their burst or you can just do it like nayuta mihara rumani biscuit cindy or w/e
Why brick? Cant B1?
Shit that team doesnt have burst gen
Stun will end before u B1
βοΈ
No shit ure the one who said that DONT UP SOMEONE ELSE'S MSG
It will stop burst gen entirely
You'll B1 later than intended
Being too late
Lmao
3 seconds is a lot
should actually be fine tbh honest. Rumani still fired off 3-4 shoot before siren. So after siren ended could still burst before biscuit ended. Ofc it's depending on investment and testing but nothing to lose here.
Biscuit could last to 6 RL, not 4.5
What makes Nayuta better than Blanc then
Just... Saving Blanc?
Free up blanc for another team.
Biscuit could only protect 2 Defender. So in normal exchange against scarlet, could lose if Midhara didn't do her best and hit 5.
There is also downside of Blanc lasting longer. But anothe rupside of not needing Midhara to win.
If Rumani is P5 theres no guarantee you will win against Scar though
If she gets wiped
Hard to say if it's better than Blanc in all match up but it free up blanc for something else is a big plus.
Nayuta P5 is still the play at the end
The possibility is nice, we will see how it works out
yeah, Rumani need p1 p-2 if you used Nayuta.
Only one specific formation works here.
P1 Rumani
P5 Nayuta to block backline
But this only saves Blanc.
I could see build that works against scarlet easily. But other match up is another thing.
Siren and Nero isn't the copy pasta deck right now though so less people using them. That's another plus
Ig just S in the current tier list
Her dmg tho Idk about that
Does B2 hit before or after 6s?
Her wipe should be similar to mari.
Higher
Sure but not making her better than scarlet.
for example
I could see cheesing her with RH b1 against Rossana SG being viable.
Is mlb nayuta the move?
once she's released and tested maybe
rule n1, wait a few days and let ppl test her dmg and kit
I probably wont unless shes busted because we still have winter event and new years
Understood commander 
After....
She doesn't get more than 9s indom if you MLB her so no. Just do it if you had the money though
oh?
I have 80k gems atm so I'm gonna pseudo whale 
Can easily go through 80k gems and only pull 1 of her
Thats the trick
Rush duel is interesting but it's too far removed from regular yugioh to me
deck power lvl nowadays is way higher than before so I get your sentiment. In burst protocol there is an insane wind generic main deck monster but that card alone won't save your gusto 
I uninstall after 
yeah,zero even
Wait a minute, if it takes 1 second to proc Indom then
....
speed run any% to uninstall by failing pulls, 10/10 experience
Core max for 2-3 seconds time to proc Indom 
What about nayuta + Blanc?
Every bit help, my gusto actually got nerf with halq banned on top of spell canceler. 
I remember Crystal wind + Spell cancer was pretty much a win condition years ago.
Halq into Sigmorph into barrier statues was okay a play.
I missed out on Maple lady + gozen match though.
Almost did it when Crown released but one of the free pulls got me the last copy 
Mst
But increasing her base stat means stronger nuke
I have played in all era from the start and what I preferred most was XYZ and synchro era. When everything was moderately OP. Even Dragon Ruler or Zodiac tier 0 were fun to play against. Not now. 
New card is called sheena something, pretty good 
Interestingly enough this year meta decks besides maliss and ryzeal decks were toned down
Last year with snake eyes was even worse 
8 disruptions+ full combo
It's not. You think it's toned down because it has less negate but go first and +20 from your deck is anything but. It doesnt matter their board is more breakable, it matter if they doesn't care whatever you play against them aside from few hard counter single card that only counter them and nothing else.
Power lvl of yummy k9 and dracotail is definitely lower than maliss 
So nayuta is another nikke that prevents me sr15 SG
Mitsu is stupid because of no locks but pure mitsu is fine and bricks at times; mitsu splashed with other decks because habakiri is free is stupid
I don't play master duel anymore because paper format actually feels better to play nowadays in TCG (no idea about OCG)
Dueled against maliss today. They go first I ashed their draw 2 and Drop the big rock on their link. But after looking at everything they search before 5 summon I just f it and surrender.
And when I won against bad deck becuase of hand traps it's still boring a game.
Yeah maliss is stupid design, everyone hates it
The 3 new decks from justice hunters are all weaker on their own
Yummy mitsu is dumb because of mitsu splash, k9 vanquish soul is broken because k9 buffs vanquish soul too much. In tcg vanquish was hit and k9 vs is basically dead 
Idk about that. I doubt it's much differ.
There used to be the word "overextended" in Yugioh, it mean when you committed many card to build a board and it got broken or interrupted, you can't come back, Such a thing doesn't exist in modern yugioh now. Either you stop them from playing completely or all the plus they general when building a board would make sure they had better play even if you breaks their board the next turn.
If both decks can play longer yugioh I don't mind as much tbh
If using the current TL (we will revamp this), where do you think Nayuta lies
Blanc tier?
Wait a minute why Anis and.... Oh revamped
Nah 99% of everything is decided on turn 1 in Yugioh nowaday. Afterward it is mostly slow grind to inevitable result at best. 
o shiiit its here
if SParena same tier as nero imo, while she has indeed indom, it's self indom, blanc can indom any unit
if CA, potentially same tier as blanc, because in blindpick her value is much bigger than in SParena where you know what you dealing with
in fact SParena and CA should've 2 different pvp tier lists
if b3 anni will be worse dps than b2 anni it will be funny
Chinese came out 10 mins ago I waited it still didn't come out in English
the % is higher than pmaid, scarlet and pmaid, not considering self buffs
No way it is a thing lol.
lower than reiT though
Would be funny if shes a skip
b2 seems beefy so would not be so surprised
pvp units on 3rd anniv 
Her self buffs are alot
doubt
ye that's where the difference gonna have to be
I'm too lazy to read the Chinese now
self buffs with that multiplier would be lethal
considering reiT is lethal on single buff
she gonna have to be better than this... surely 
her burst gen might suck if she is like cindy and is special kind of SR where you hold button
ReiT doesn't have strong normal attack outside burst so not very strong in PvE. Pligrim will be strong outside burst and a good boos killer
for sure, anything that is strong in pvp is just an accident
clearly the 9s indom at start of battle on nayuta aren't pvp intended 
SU thinking still eludes me
Liberalio, 50% atk dmg + 990%
multiplier
should work as a single buffed nuker, deadline xmaiden like auto dmg 
so a nuke slightly less strong than reiT
oh, might have 160% atk buff too 
Skill 1 160% attack too
Damn. New pvp nuker 
when entering full burst generally applies after nuke is cast wasn't it?
Hm, I cant rmb for this 

depending on if her wipe behaves like Ein's or not, If she is, then new meta.
Might not actually. Like drakeβs buff i think 

Nayuta's skill 1 is uh
tbh liberalio kit doesn't seem as creative as nayuta
Kinda strong for pvp huh
Yea she is just pumping numbers
They just made her strong enough to dual with SBS and replace Alice/Mana/AsukaW
From the look of things, we might get another clipRL soon 
yeah looks like
I'm scared for pvp right now
I like how you can just put nayuta in p1 and buff the shit out of vesti
What insane teams are we going to get lol
8 second indom on battle start 
Should be about clipSG gen i think. 
my vesti would still kill p2-3 no problem and anyone linked with them. 
Vesti stonks rising with more wind ele pvp units 
Your bestie will probably one tap everyone if you have nayuta with it
idk
I like how shift up is like "how do we power creep? Oh just make skills very long and fit 3 images"
Ein's is buffed
dps Crown let gooo 
Didn't reply ...
Long live the king
Should I reset Mari 
she deadge
Follow your heart
I should reset mine too
crown treasure released sooner than i thought 
Crown treasure wasnt a meme 
Crown
Nayuta
Grave
Ade
1 slot left
I did this so they are easier to read
Has to burst is not much of a disadvantage lol
does she? read skill 2, it's a passive that procs every 3sec
Oh burst is memory incineration
Burst is incineration not absorption
Nayuta should have a niche spot as indom/buffer. Better Makima replacement
Liberalio should be a better ReiT nuker, needing single buffer. Strong single target attacks as well
I wonder how Noah and nayuta will be
Moran nero nayuta Noah 
That sound like 0 burst gen 
nayuta helmt rapu lapt(or idk) nero? and moran is free for another team?
2 SMG 1 AR
Rl incineration
Interesting pvp units no doubt
The only kit I fully understand is chime
I wonder if she replaces mmast for crown teams
Liberalio might have way more burst gen depending on how s2 works
The top buffing team
The all damage dealers team
MG team
Electric team
SG team potentially with Leona 
Nayuta is okay as flex spot in Scar mirror though because her first absorption triggers before Scar B3 and gives 30% caster Atk for 5s, and she is indom into enemy Scar nuke so you win by having a unit alive 
well " the king " will probably be crown himself, double crown damage it's prob not worth a support like mast for the whole team lol
they don't make any money from free character, it's just a joke gimmick 100%
I'm going to eternalize the king
As long as the feed doesnβt take make them too fast I guess 
The moment I get chime im using her instead of mmast for mc
Have crown break the slippers 
You lose when you feed jackal into a frame faster 
That assumes the bottleneck is not the rocket landing 
Well I didnβt check frame on work yet 
Nayuta being Wind SMG indom is basically them seeing all the Blanc getting killed by Vesti and had the idea.
"we need a unit that can stay p2 or p1 without needing a biscuit"
nayuta: "say no more"
what are sp arena points used for ? can we exchange something from them or just point calc?
those red chips
point calc
Thanks !
I'd put Nayuta just right below Batteries

She's SS for CA, S for SP
no Nayuta Scar 
And now I need Makima rerun to make meme comp

Does every anni nikke get the 3 image treatment for their kit
So basically
Nayuta = Campaign (primary) + Arena-Solo raid (2ndary)
Liberalio = Solo raid (primary) + Campaign (2nd) + Arena (3rd)
Liberalio is the skip for me then.
same, going to C7 Nayuyu and lb0 libe
you trying to time when he is offline? enter his profile and check his union, from there you can see when he last was online, if it's more than 1h, maybe, but maintenance starts in like 3h:28m
I mean, unless they spend gems, we only have 2 hits a day. I know I still have a shot left. I want to ensure they already fired their two.
hit em 5 mins before maint for maximun toxicity 
LAWLZ! AMEN BROTHER! THAT WAS THE PLAN!
peak pvp
If her burst worked like Ein she would be must pull
skip cus winter gonna be pvp unit 
Nah skip cus I'm broke and Spring is always the strongest unit of the year in the last 3 years
are molds scam ?
Im thinking they gonna release summer crown after looking at chime's kit, but I cant prove it yet 
because how is the 20% hitting more than the 50 %
how
i just refuse to believe my luck is that ass
Mordernia > RH> SBS> Rapipi.
All best DPS in their year of release.
OS anis next? 
@spiral onyx here is the data mentioned earlier, sorry it took so long https://www.blablalink.com/post/detail?post_uuid=1355778937766093307&gameid=29080
also seems to be compiled from KR region? but food for thought regardless
I'm late to the party but 9s indom at start of fight 
Nat 20 ofc
He had to have hit like every counter, normally vesti and helm have like half health when they burst
But this time vesti was just dead
Yes
cs immunity?
So is nayuta gonna be used with mihara now
nayuta to SG 
Nayuta, mihara, blanc, bisc, someone
liberalio maybe just 1 copy and run away only 2 pages for skills
Xmaid weak, so winter will always be releasing weak nikke
I like weak nikkes :pepemafia:
can someone cook 2 teams for me to hit before maint? no emi xanne
my brain is fried from this guy switching defenses every day
I could see nayuta being used p5 in Scarlet team to beat SG team...
She also boost 30% ATK to scar slash.
I think it depends whether you are scared of defending SG more than the mirror 
Scarlet Jackal is good as is
but if people aren't on Jackal then Nayuta Scar is same speed as RH Scar
so I think you win the mirror too
both nuke at same time but Nayuta guarantees to live

Consider I have 100% lose rate against any SG in my current bracket it works

But scarlet kill SG by counter so probably still a lose
what if your Nayuta is 2nd highest Atk and indom dispelled 
you need your Trina to be more stonks
looks like nayuta may actually do some decent damage though which means you'd maybe want some atk rolls on her
for pve if not pvp
also issue with Nayuta Scar is that you need to take Rumani away from Cinderella
otherwise that team have no B1 
can we pepper cope? I think not enough speed
or I suppose jackal again
you want attack on her anyway because she shares caster attack with others, it's not just flat atk%
My slow Cindy doesn't use Rumani. But anyway, my scarlet would still lose with nayuta p5 anyway, unless getting back shoot.
watch me 4:1 him
thank you for being gentle
@shell hazel Iβm ded
I didnβt let the huge leviathan sweep me but it is what it is

i didn't win because of RNG
moran guy won, so I got 6 hours of credits
I lost the sg on sg and vesti on vesti, my low vesti investment is the issue
low investiment
slacking
I may cook some weird shit next CA we'll see
well issue with soda/scar is that you lose to a lot of stuff lol
I losttt no top 4 sad
Sg win rate isnβt great either, the dude was lucky with the mirrior matche
Different sets and I could win
nah neither is mine, though I suppose it's better sending some SG then none still
Cute
Just having Rapunzel will make me outlast the indom?

I lost to a fellow pie but I have no regrets
scar soda mirror with my b2s getting stunned (again)

My soda acar lost to normal scar
445! naughty hime not f2p π
could anyone help me 2 wins
Congrats on being blue

First get to 701 synch
Nayuta looks really good for PvP, right?
Even if she is a SMG, I hope her Burst works like Redhood's
but then i cannot tell ppl im f2pbtw anymore
The top union in SEA is F2P btw
Isn't Shinonono from Sea ? 
he isn't in the top union ?
wdym?
Can this win though? Previously was the slow team outlasted
Changing centi to rapu will fix it?
No he isn't
damn

will i win
figured with his sync 
@flat fern anniversary maintenance is in a little, grab your outpost and ranked stuff if you haven't already
ty ty, am already on top of it
When she changes weapons, I hope that like Redhood, she won't need to charge every shot
Doubt
RH has +100% CS in her skill description. Nayuta doesn't
Why does rh get 99 shots
It's just infinity ammo
test
ig i will go with this classic
Gl, tell me if youbwon
Right, I just checked Cinderella and Vesti TU and both have 100% CS buff
Sad 

Then what's the point of unlimited ammo
do u know what u are saying
Its unlimited if you dont use it all
so she doesn't catches reload right after bursting and wasting it π€·ββοΈ
You could manually fire 30 uncharged shot
Hello Cookie
But when a character changes weapons, the ammo is always at max capacity
Rh has a charge speed cap right
Irrelevant in arena
It caps then excess goes into charge damage
hihi kise

how are you
I've had a rough couple of days but im trying to hang in there best I can. Hopefully things are going good for you too 
Opposite
Shit was going/is going/went downhill for me (but hopefully it's getting better now). Idk if it will continue or not.
I noticed your "almost finished moving" in bio gone, so you've fully moved in now?
I just know yesterday a female member of section died last week. First time I got report of an union member died online.
While playing game
yeah all done!
BTW there's like a min before maint so 
@tropic summit the new T1 doesn't work too
Rapu cannot outheal and we will still die eventually
@tropic summit we need more πΏ comps
i wanted to ask do we have any info on liberlio now
Yes
kits are out
New wind dps meta. Could be meta in Arena if her burst worked like Ein.
is she worth spending mileage on? or should i prioritise rapi and possibly annis (overspec) if there is in new year
This is Arena channel so I would say no and wait for test
i see so she is like stronger sbs?
like why would they give a 3sec 160% buff if she cant benefit from it for burst?
Kinda
over spec anis?
looks like you use them together, but wait for testing regardless
that will not happen unless anis die
is it just to satisfy the buff chargespeed for lower attack character to buff SBS?
Well, in PvE, solo raid, union raid .etc the main dmg isn't from the burst but the normal attack during burst
alright i will ask here tommorow again. i am really torn between what to do now . i have decided nayuta is a must have so i will be mileaging on her if i don't get her but i also want rapi and other overspec/ pilgirm if possible. i am also looking to get redhood if any luck
its 3 sec though its like just the window to buff those upfront burst damage
lib won't be out until later, so we still won't be able to answer your question unfortunately
Well, who knows, need to test. If she is like Ein then it would apply. But no one like Ein so far
like ein just means if the 160% applies or not right?
maint is started
or you mean like ein in other aspects too
yeah, i will ask again later when testings are done and her value is soldified. That seems to be the most reasonable way for me. pilgrims and overspec are really hard to get too bad i can't get everyone this time around
may the gacha gods bless me

could it be for her skill one charge speed buff? so she wouldn't be able to cast it on herself because with 160% atk% buff she cannot be lower atk than sbs after burst, assuming this buff applies not immediately 

yea thats one possible reason
i also thought of that too
missed
I wonder if my attack went through for SP Arena. The screen popped up like right when the server crashed and it showed a bunch of exia icons but I technically saw a victory screen but it was super buggy 
last minute hitter 
probably happened, it's not required for arena match to play visually for it to decide on who wins, visual part is just for players, matches itself probably decided in seconds
rosanna dispel was between 3rd and 4th SG shot?
I spoke to the CEO of Nikke, the hit counted π
well that's hilarious, just confirming but you ran the cube i gave you?
scarlet temperance
blanc healing/vigor
rh temperance
rapunzel healing/vigor
jackal quantum
for DoT to still wipe you on 2 DoT heals is rather peculiar
is this a case of jackal dmg share working against her
jackal link is meaningless here because all 3 units receive and share the damage, so it's like it didn't exist
it's more of a matter to get the burst gen to 2.5RL-3RL
DoT? yes, but you still need dmg on mihara
the real interesting bit is the fact that 2 DoT heals, one of the two being one of the strongest, isn't enough to outsustain midhara DoT
we still need the chain dmg unit (same as shared dmg but with extra dmg to enemies)
to take the next step forward, maybe let's get a noise B1 going 
my old sp team
0 losses against DoT cindy
@tropic summit i died,
for science when you feel like
scarlet temperance
blanc healing/vigor
noise healing/vigor
rapunzel healing/vigor
jackal quantum
yep I did. mihara DoT is quite strong i dont think rapu heal can be enough? she can only heal 2 characters at one time
although scar + blanc is probably no longer lethal
might need to drop blanc for trina

how are we surviving then? or should we just tackle the other team?
the other team had scar soda right?
the other team is a vesti laplace team
oh that one
noise can tank mihara DoT (depending on team cores)
My group has like 3 ppl that always hit, swap comps and everything 1minute before reset
same 
or just use siren against dot cindy, rumani is p1...
i also hit last minute cuz hard to defend against 2 people with only 2 attempts
you will have to play around the points
can't defend against people who just spend gems on hits
yea
some dude used 300 gems last season on me and i still got top 2
would be better if i just sit top 3 and chill but unfortunately
My grp has me and 2 others fighting for 3rd-4th but the other 2 only hit me and don't hit eachother 
Any thoughts on liberalio for pvp?
high chance to be another OP nuke
not that useful maybe, will be slow gen like alice or RH prob
I think nayuta can kind of earn that back a bit with her indom state
for who you mean? alice and RH are single target liberalio is nuke?
liberalio also wind, so she would be in tVesti eyesight, unless there would be comps where you can place her in p4 π€·ββοΈ
for gen I mean ahead of burst will be low probably
RH and Alice both suck for it
low gen is not a problem i think we always support with batteries.
it is a problem of sorts imo
like blood uses reiT
What
LD's union?
Noice
damn what
@jagged mesa I will see you in my rookie again after maint trust

help me push everyone down from r2 
DoT cindy or siren cindy?
oo if I die probably I will just disappear
or double taunt cindy (?)
is someone bullying you
new test dummy
rookie is your reverse harem
i think rapu is bug
no but just in case 
that's the plan 
I gotta bite ash's ankles for old times sake
she now revive with initial buff active (like those at the start of the battle)
ankles my ass, more like hammering my head with a mallet
also is liberalio the biggest(?) nuke we have in pvp now besides cindy
no
blanc rh cindy, easy win... a team to use only against people you hate
ah ah ah
p sure it's ReiT
well it depends on how delayed her nuke is
if she lands after FB then yes
if not then no
lib's self buff though
her skill 2 basically doesn't exist
and her skill 1 needs her nuke to land after FB
which is too slow to beat Scar
looking forward to all the p1-p3 lib so my vesti can eat well 
I was thinking blanc, mihara, nayuta, bisc, helm maybe
not in terms of timing, i mean biggest as in number wise
i hope you enjoy sg backsh*ts
DoT comp yep should work with dot, i was thinking about nayuta p1 and makima p5 but my mihara is lb1... need at least c3 for CA
nayuta/mihara(i hate mihara p1~p2)/xmica/siren/makima
bad but interesting* CA team
she should should hit less than Trina Scar
wait you need dupes of mihara for CA? π
Idk about Blanc Scar
stares at LB0 mihara
trina lib 
if you don't use blanc in the team? yes
am shot then
but is more about mihara personal dmg, to reduce the chances of teams that can tank mihara (not many use them)
nah ReiTN is higher. 990% 63% caster Atk 35% Atk dmg
assuming Lib burst is too fast to be buffed by her own s1

i dont think thats the case
true...
speed scar go brrr
what fast 
well T2 isn't undefeatable although it kinda bothers me we can't outsustain that DoT
helmT?
she's used to deal with enemy sustain T3
or no good with cindy death?
nayuta cope
I feel like maybe the t3 is overcommit as it wins so easily, and could work still if we moved a few pieces around with it, as long as it stays quick enough
main one doing the work there is vesti
where are the teams?
helm can be removed i guess
just need to give vesti enough batteries
maybe cos my rapu investment is 4,4,4? but her extra heal per level is not that much also?
Who will burst?





