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why not bursting with vesti on team 1?

How fast is laplace wtf
laplaceT B3 is non lethal and kitable, scratch that garbo
I need one dupe for her
noise speed iirc, before treasure, slightly faster than noise actually*, but yea, buff is on treasure
laplaceT is clip RL tier after buff
just post your box
Who wins 
Do I need to level up any of laplace’s skills past 4?
the slower indom
for pvp only the burst matter if u plan to burst
I don't know who 
that sounds like a YOU issue 
noise one would be slower, cause other team has rumani?
The one with Rumani also put Cindy P2 
forces enemy to be faster 
Giga brain
But enemy has Noise
it won't speed up as much
sorted by power, although we cant see the power with cubes in pvp
Is a yes and no bc of Cindy P2 
jackal blue doll
moran blue doll
noise dolless
fix those 3 units then can try making teams
rocket launchers
Does moran's 1st passive skill affects all target or affects the target?
Not Moran 
moran decided to drop her rifle for an RPG-7 
you got me there
id claim a sr doll for moran but I only have one smg sr
I guess chime wont be THAT good surely
Right win
Affects the target is what it says
Why 
think I should claim sr for jackal or moran
Kisama
Wth? How the heck moran can target all 5 nikke if it says affects the target? A bugatti?
Left burst with midhara
Right burst with Cindy(Cindy Decoy gets a rebuilt)
if they are reversed in def/attack, noise is even slower
depends on cs though
Can you send a recording of Moran inflicting damage to 5 people? 
I'll send a crop one thru dm
2D is bottom 

Why dm and not here I wonder 🤔
Here
thanks for having me get on the puter rail, I have to intercept still

Hoping he's not here lol
If it's like this, noise can't even burst because cindy will nuke her
if 2D is on bottom and rumani with quantum, then yea..
Noise wins 
Isn't that the Cindy aftermath
?.... Wait, no no
That's Mihara dot 
Never use Diesel 
how does kraken give more core than the other ai
it seems like I get most from the ones that give gear
Core?
the rocks
placebo effect
Those are called custom modules
not core
Even though mihara died and didn't get her burst skill?
darn, no ele damage on cindy
For experiment purposes
Pls read her skill ...... Uh, one, I think is 1
someone said earlier theres a minesweeper for anni? does that provide custom modules?
I'm dumb, is skill 2
2D should win because his mihara is not bursting
Minesweeper?
someone said they hope they get lucky on the anni minigame for modules, maybe I mistook it for something else
there will be
How are you sure Rumani and Biscuit won't kill her 
Oh man. That sucks
AH
5X5 you mean
secret
can I get a restraining order
Is the main gimmick of this team @lapis field
.... Well not main, just part of it
I know its a waste of gems to keep 3rd place but I'm doing it out of spite
Supporter and defender can't kill in 4 shots, fine 
It’s always them Eve pfps 😔
will helm always kill jackal and their links
If she does a lot yeah
I just upgraded jackals doll, maybe that stops it
Oh well, sucks that I don't have helm til now 
What's bothering also that Siren's stun didn't proc on her 2nd reload afterwards

shift up be sending bots to waste gems before anni
nah it's not a bot
but that would be kidna funny
I hope reshuffle gets rid of this dude, he's very annoying
can i get some advise
what are we looking at?
and this would be team 2
what's team 3
noah noise 2RL i aint touching that team
If hitting the same unit Siren will only stun once
already decided not to take that team on since its full sr15 and i dont wanna risk 2RL vs 2RL when 20 lvls apart
nvm both can be dealt with
vs scarlet
- noah biscuit xmaiden laplacet rumani - 2RL
vs vestiTU
- jackal noise helmt emilia/vestiTU flex b2 (non feeder) - 2RL
my thought process is my pad team can stall with a biscuit and then be able to burst 
is reshuffle due soon? i dont like being in server with top 4 all whaling
yes, during anni
I was told in a reset or two
rail sensei... no emilia xanne etc
p4 is flex DPS, can be literally anything that does not feed
alternatively, B2 can be flex if you use a clip RL burst gen tier in p4
another example
how's this rail? it's temporary but it forces them to fight either biscuit padded team or a 2rl cindy
point is, vestiTU can be denied with snipe, while scarlet glass cannon can be denied by anti nuke and defender main b3 @sudden drift
Drake treasure then, gotcha 
but ill be attacking, just before reset. all are basically glass cannons, otherwise CP gap would be lower. most of my units are OL1 or 0, like vestiTU, laplace, xmaiden, scarlet
kisama
4RL biscuit locked team is useless, your entire team dies and leaves bay alive...
the other 2 teams aren't ideal, because vesti can be skipped and cindy has no anti nuke
move bay into one of your 2 best teams and same goes for biscuit
the padded team needs to be padded and that's it, don't waste meta in it
so what is gonna be my b3 vs scarlet ros (noah biscuit xmaiden laplacet rumani - 2RL)
yes that's the counter, 2RL anti nuke with defender B3
but thats why already have cindy there ensuring she bursts
good luck being 2RL with cindy and without helmt
you need helmt for vesti
i know.... i looked through the entire library's cookbooiks and still decided on these
bad rolls and not geared up enuf with standard units... lemme show you CP diff
ill run these later then... the game done changed
but ig it still stays the same with ppl gemming in sp lol
tks @tropic summit im looking forward to the results later. man you guys just operate on another plane
4 proccs in 2RL timeframe, that's way below average 
you got RNG diffed
Rail there is literally 0 chance of getting top score in raids, CA is the only way I can compete
for frame, instead of gems (which does look good i admit, buuut)
you sure you wanna compete on a mode that rewards invest that gives you no return?
but no gems for CA...
on a run rn
true believer in himself 

@gritty ridge actually negative gems to get the privilege of being invited to CA.. . plus that was just a bad matchup. another great feature of RNG CA
Wdym negative gems
I dont lose gems being in top 3
havent gotten that all bets correct frame yet retro?
Nah
maybe not you, but thousands upon thousands were wasted the weeks leading up to CA... it was glorious
could you cook for me 3 SpA team without trina? @tropic summit
no vesti
show le box 
or you meant blind?
I lose in top 16 this time
I wish rail uses blabla
yea, no idea why ppl still gemming hard these days when all we get are credit boxes... some deviant behavior tho wasting gems before anni
ill never show my blabla/resources again... ive been shamed into savings mode for all mats, cant even do daily equip upgrades. tks @eager mountain . the shame, it burns
but people get shamed when i posted this
They doubted me. They all doubted me 
Yeah
keep believing king, level is just a number 
found the nyuta

oh dang! @fathom rock @short moon you're both having a good run! gl in the match up!
i'd say lets me up in the top 8, but KZ is going on a pie slaughtering fest at the moment. I don't think i make it though. pls avenge me 🫡


I was wondering the exact same LMAO, nearly mirror match for that one. 
I'm losing 5:0 
Thanks tho
I'm just waiting to get filtered, but good luck on your matchup
T2 is indeed risky
If the opponent vesti triggered more crit, your noah will die before burst
I experienced that kind of match before
he's coming. gotta get ready. he's always been beefy but his teams look scarier than usual this season 
dumb question, which set is better, given I invest much in pepper
either way, you will get nuked by scarlet
maybe laplace if she has good ele and hope u can kill low invested scarlet
pepper if laplace has low ele
if u run pepper, it should be moran pepper biscuit anis centi
im cooked 
oh well, i wont change then, gonna try fishing for trina when anni arrives
wait sanis or anis?
what do u think
15 cs though 
what about biscuit, the third team I haven't OLed moran, biscuit and centi 
is there a place I can look online for current pvp meta?
@tropic summit vestiTU couldnt survive long enough... maybe i should try bursting with her next time
you could check the pins for team building site and sp arena recommendations
What cook is this
non bursting noise?
The meta is Vesti 
No
Vesti is the meta
i simply follow the words spoken by him, or maybe looked at positions backwards
he's trying to sniperooni the vesti
i dont question the pvp meta god
it looked like it kind of worked (xmaiden got the indom?) but xmaiden also did a bunch of damage 😄
Im super bad at this game 
i think he assumed i had a better flex b2, but nah, next best was treasure bay dropping below 2rl
is this just rookie arena?
woah hes almost sync 1000
Hao2learn to pvp on here
asking me? it was SP. the first team did as rail predicted
what is their 3rd team?
@tropic summit I got 1 more cs line on biscuit 
2rl noah cindy
p1 rh strat worked
to beat the scar team you just need a 2RL bay or noah comp, bay can cope it if yours is OK
then you can deal with the cindy or the vesti team with more pieces
Omg this is insane
I don't think we need biscuit on the scar side
You gotta know I was forced to play this on atleast 21% deficit lmao I needed a buffer and I couldn't squeeze rhb1, noah biscuit and get 2rl without this stupid risk much also siren make things much harder 
was for salty sorry
Ah wonder what yall cooking
it was these - no 3rd team shown though so can't see if it's easier or harder than the vesti
nice moran/nero team.
2rl helm with low feed doesn't just 1 tap link?
ill have to wait and check when he beats me back down, but i think it was this
5 shotguns absolutely bulldose this
if you can murder noah then yes, that would be an option
also vesti can brawl that down no biscuit
it would be easier than taking on their vesti team
you are both correct... i cheesed the W with a few SG and RH. embarrased that i won that way so i didnt post full results
oh backup B3 xmaiden nuked your link and was lethal, gonna need a noah there afterall or a rosanna to deny vestiTU so you can force an indom on RH instead while you wipe the team
Biscuit leaves for a unit that makes this 2rl
Or use a 2nd b1
That won't work
dayum nice

They're sniping me with helm or nuking me
Idk what but its annoying
They've attacked me 6 times today
2rl prevents helm sniping that but how are you so sure
salty that cindy comp is weak to vesti godcomp
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/inyFv164o2A
The weirdo uses this
noise noah jackal rapu vesti
adding ros to that comp would drop CP further... plus 3 B3s so thats why initially i wanted to go scar burst but ig it was faster than 3RL
watch my match above, it looks like same opponent team
Not the exact team but something like that
If you wanna keep biscu, get 15cs vestiTU or something
tks, i have a lot to catch up on meta-wise
I'm just trying to stop this dude from doing whatever he is
bonus 3rd team works for anti-scar 2RL as long as they don't somehow out-speed you
Would be splendid if you see what's attacking
opponent is likely this, which should be punished by helmt as you'd kill jackal vestitu and rh, but it appears they still bursted with xmaiden, would need to watch a record to tell
rh also seemed to still be alive, which gives them the B1 they'd need on 3RL
Just buff the helmt nuke and make sure feed low
check jackal, vesti and helmt HP, vestiTU must be lowest HP between the 3
Vesti has the least
now your weaknesses there:
blanc is in p3, she'd be dead against enemy vestiTU
Can I make my Cindy team a slow cindy
slow cindy in SParena is punished by many things, rather not
The dude hits me 6 times a day so perhaps it will make him stop
If I put noise in p2 would that make Cindy feed
too slow
bay serves nothing if she's not bursting in time
I can't make it faster, Cindy is slow
this is what happens to your 3RL bay
Not even a helm replacing Trina makes it not 3rl
The redemption is in progress
@tropic summit sorry to ping you, but when u said Anis, did you mean Summer or normal?
said when and in which context?
s.anis is summer anis
anis is SR anis
Would blanc in p4 be fine then
ye that teams becomes decent then
ye anis in T3 is the SR one
she can be subbed for centi or rumani once you unlock them
Wait I should build Rumani then right?
Since centi has been avoiding me real hard Js like scarlet
yes as in the notes 
Okie

I didn't put the new vesti team up because I couldn't make a second team yet

I swapped team numbers again just cause I noticed him attacking
nice helmet
yet
2b 
well I can chuck 2 in a furnace anyway I just keep the 1, but furnaces are just big copes
need pilgrim attacker helms but not forthcoming :p
wish they would only drop during collab or something
i dont even have a single collab nikke
or the best solution, let us use any manufacturer gear for colab units
has to be right type only
defender or supporter or w/e
did you OL all the other pilgrim attackers already? i thought most ppl hoarded their stuff....

I just went to kraken once I had enough gear for my main units, as I'm going to build more pve soon I need more gear now
what about stop spamming attacker colab units 
@gaunt pulsar could be worse, just had 3 runs with kraken and zero rocks.
How does rapunzel work?
i did almost full last week farming gloves, felt like worst decision
at least kraken drops you rock boxes so it's guarantee, equip boxes are full on gamba
reach B1, revive highest atk% unit among the dead and provide healing
if her HP threshold is low enough, she can also stun
i dunno how, but got 2 full sets on snow white and isabel, 3 more units only missing helm/helmet
If I vesti a team is it possible for rapunzel to stun
for rapunzel to stun it would be up to the opponent
they can run a team that kills her pre B1 or ignores her enough to prevent stun
cant fathom wanting to have 3 cracks at mirror container daily 
dont rely on her stun ever, unless you watch replay and know that she reaches hp threshold, some do it by linking her with jackal I think? but it's pretty low hp req to proc
Wow she stunned me
you only need 1? a soon as you reached desired stage you can quick attack and it repeats same fight with same dmg
one of what? gloves? nah i need plenty of tetra support, but i aint going near MC. ill wait it out with the new bones system
siren?
one run per day is all you need, subsequent are just quick battle is what i meant
so you not doing MC 3 times like actual boss
jackal scarlet trina flex flex
2RL p1 B1 to prevent siren from stunning you
I don't have scarlet
same logic but with vesti
yeah you had a lot of expectations from that unprotected unlinked blue doll centi
also happens to be your only B2
LOL
never fully cleared MC yet so i just stay away. but having only just grabbed sanis last month ill revisit sooner or later. just hate retrying attep[ts if you cant break all the slippers without making a mistake

i see
i myself took it as a learning opportunity because haven't even reached it in story and very much needed tetra support gloves too, but soon after Nayuta release gonna push again 
criminal to not give centi SR doll... centi is life

if i only have 1 B1 or 1 B2 in the team, i try to keep them in the middle, jackal or no jackal
poor centi in p1 or even p2 is no bueno unless youre a reckless madman
She can only defend herself it seems
who is linked there? 
im legit thinking of thhrowing my unfinished nero/moran quiry just to play mind games and hope ppl dont attack them.., theres someone thats 16 levels below me and i've never taken that team down once
Who?
just a general statement...
He swapped his defense around, I can see he can use 100 gems all day
nice easy teams at least
Easy teams but he's doing this
just wait - why rush to hit back?
Because I am spiteful and want him to whale harder
let em stew on when you're planning to strike them back
I don't tend to play the hit back immediately game, just disengage and come back later
do they sleep? learn their schedule
punish when they go to sleep
they probably changed both def and attack to the same team 
you said he changed his def recently
if you lose rearrange your teams, at the least it will annoy them
probably touched their own attack team too
I wonder if they changed some ol and it messed them up
All I did was raise my sync to 260, was 259
am sure you know this but you can drag the teams around for positions without removing/re-adding them
happens to those when they win only by cp gapping you
Yeah I can
took me way too long to realise that 😄
I noticed that a month ago or something
so if my def loses I just swap stuff around, sure it won't prevent me losing again but it will make my attacker have to think about what to send/order the teams
They attacked 5x in a row and lost, maybe it was a slight power gap
Yeah I've been waiting for it since he started attacking me this week
I can jump about 12 levels or so atm, just need the new chapters
He attacked 6x in a row, im going to troll and swap my teams order around a lil
what if that helps him?

what do u think lol

oh pvp time in pvp channel 
do u need help to kick his ass?
if it makes you feel better, idk how to break your team now
I got 100 rolls and nearly 600 golds ready
I can spend a bit just for the fun of it lol
the 100 rolls is just on the vouchers
400 gold enoughs
i woulndt spend any gems rn until anni
then we got xmas limited, then ny pilgrim
spending gems during anni is THE BAD IDEA
it's the same as spending them now
u simply want to avoid pulling 1% rate banners lol
if only I had scarlet
dont blame on that, sir
would make team building a bit easier
I will anyway I need the mileage and the doll mats
scarlet main job is to anti SG, AR, SMG, MG
but ppl dont use those nowadays
What did you do? I only raised my sync once
was just adjusting the units I have
i can imagine scarlet drop to SS tier next year when people can run no SG, AR, SMG, MG
Ah maybe it was an ol change or something
he got ammo for his sanis
my b1s are lacking 😔
If you want 3 I can give it to you, I can't do this all day I want the gems for anni 
I don't even do the CA so you can if you want
4th is enough for CA if you don't get knocked off it
there was someone gunning for 4th a lot earlier, they haven't done any attempts recent
I don't think they can get 4theven if they boot us from 4th
We've been 3rd and 4th for a whole week
well someone has to
the other guys in the grouping just don't have the power or comps
if it rotates a lot then it's harder to guess who will wind up 4th
Yeah they don't
meanwhile 1st has such a power difference on us oml
💳
Yeah the dude was going ham
There was a time #2 and I could beat him but now its not possible 
the sync level is really misleading on his, go in and I get shot down well before burst on one of them
I'm only this far cause this channel has been helping me
Do you know the cp deficit gap?
ahh I've been blind for the most part on this entire thing
84.6% or less cp and you die
Multiply their teams power by .846
Thats your lowest power you need without a deficit to affect you
CA doesn't have the same thing, no penalty there
yeah 1st place is pretty much untouchable since that's an overall power deficit is 30k, kinda crazy
it's nice to talk with people on the leaderboards lol, ggwp and gl on the anni pulls 🫡
Yeah I don't have 362k even on campaign team
They're spending gems and still losing 😭
They're right here you know 
I have a deficit to most of the top 5 people in my bracket but I got team help from Railtracer in here and its been going great
it depends how you define deficit though
oh lol thats funny, never seen people from a bracket in here
If you want to know how I've been beating you it's because I've been making your Noah team burst faster
We're all newbies but me 360, others 390, 450, 385
lots are prob lurking
no way LOL
I'll attack you and show the video so you can see
He's giving away state secrets 😱
at some point I'm gonna take a break on the pvps in general cuz I need so much stuffs for my other units
finally hit deficits on tetra tower and the like 😔
I built a lot of pvp this year but my raids suffer because of it
it's the team I had the hardest time breaking too
I've done some extra dolls to PvP and barely got my 3rd team to 4rl 🙏
well similar, idt you're using red hood on defense for this one
no the right way to play is to plan your attack teams and focus on 2 teams to hit, not run the same as your def teams
ye that's what I usually do
Have you been using the burst website?
no, this was entirely trial and error on my end lol
Create and share a GODDESS OF VICTORY: NIKKE deck
You're doing really well for trial and error 
I also need more batteries but prio has been on bastion and resilience over quantum
I don't even have quantum done
I just ol centi, jackal, Trina, and rumani for the speed boost
you only really need quantum 7 eventually then tempura cube is better anyway
Quantum is fraud 
I've been feeling this lol
quantum can help you hit speed thresholds
I invested mostly campaign and pvp teams so my roster looks quite powerful on pvp units
at some point I'll need to start gearing up rumani
I was going to be devious and do a different team but I'm lacking Noah unfortunately
Oh you don't even have batteries built
yeeee
Jackal, Centi, Trina and rumani are what you wanna work on
like jackal just got her doll
it's not even an SR doll cuz this game has been cursing on RL 😭
last one I had to put was on cindy so I could clear 32-32
well if you want a bit of advice find a way to ditch units like alice and liter from your teams, they're not good burst gen only adding combat power really
smg like liter in particular is abusable if your opponent runs scar jack into it, because of the scar counters and high jackal feed for gen
but pve is upcoming and I really need to close the gap on tetra (and eventually missilis) tower
you can't really all in on both pvp and pve one suffers for the other
I've been stuck at 150 for every tower but elysion and pilgrim tbh
I run my pvp units in tetra and missils towers 😄
I'd invest more in pve if I wasnt stuck at mirror container
I think rosanna and noise are on one of my teams lol
for tetra it's been manual alice turbo, hit 40k deficit recently on that
at this point I think pve is gonna take prio so I can start knocking out more bosses for union raid
i'm taking a break from the towers for now mostly except pilgrim as I'm like 100 floors ahead on some
It probably will be prio anyway, ladder shuffle is after this season ends and we may be put behind even more #1 
instead of 1st spot going to a CN whale, it'll be the top 10 😭
Did you translate his name? It's big bird 
I don't think they'll catch me anytime soon
Evil?
only big lead I got is on hard mode campaign
elysion only about 50 but it's because they have rapi/helm prob
actually one question I do got, how good is ada for pvp
meh
she can work ok but you wouldn't want to prio her for pvp
Look at dis evil man higher cp than me
my r units better fed than yours

I got 100 in tribe, just waiting for the new cp jump and then I'll auto some more
I missed some easy early milestones, didn't really know what I was doing, the guy who got them doesn't play anymore
what cube should i go for after tempering?
you 15 resi/bastion/tempura?
vigor then perhaps, or a more pve centric one if other good ones are there
i think about the hp cube for cindy rumani
personally I'd put a bit into vigor if I was done with the others
my vigor is already lv7 tho
I don't think there is really a high value cube left though
Also flem you can keep #3 tomorrow if you want it
I may try attacking #2 and see what happens
lol i feel like we will get distributed, dot, and true dmg cube next
you got a decent shot I'd say
I probably can but I figured you would beat me in #2 so I never bothered 
there should be something useful so in your shoes I'd just stack those union chips
my tempura is 10 I have a long way to go
when was the last time they dropped a new cube lol
the parts damage one
damn this has been going on for 2 months 
true damage cube next 
I've just been seeing if I can beat certain teams and what works and the like
Youve been doing pretty good going blind
when the reset comes, best of luck on wherever you end up 🫡
Vesti will win most attacks if you have her fast enough
I don't think the reset will necessarily isekai you that much, or maybe even at all
Hopefully we're put in the same one and we aren't dealing with big bird 1-10
it is big for snow white players but i dont use her
all my shuffles just added people into mine
This current ladder was easier than my last one, I couldn't even reach rank 5
Pierce cube
no I doubt I'll build I have way too much to build already and she's way down my list, and by the time I get there, probably crept to hell 😄
lots of players probably dropped, not enough to fill the slots so they added new
was there a particularly large jump in new players coming and then dropping during the stellar blade event
With it being anniversary we may get returning players
well last shuffle added the whale and I just been back and forth between 1-2 for the last 5-6 SPA seasons
I started during the stellar blade event, before that I played on launch and dropped it
yeah same, and my server for leaderboards n stuff was pretty fresh too
I had to make this account during stellar blade, my original account has a crazy ladder difference
pvp based on account age so yeah don't take any major breaks or it's 🧱
wonder if my subserver range will increase
currently we all within 100 or even less servers, first ever bracket we had one more earlier player
spa should be pretty close all the time - CA can vary some
yeah CA i see is in a range of thousands servers going by the global numbers, still between 200-280 sync pretty much
I think the ca flem and I are in is the newest one
I managed to actually rank top 128 or whatever this week and I didnt even adjust my team
I hit top 32 last time, didn't really care for this round
what I'm trying to get is the lose all cheer frames and I keep getting the one under dog 😭
I haven't bothered with ca, you only get frames
I just like the 3000 gem from spa
Maybe not 3000 gem this season but thats ok 
It’s so nice to be able to cheer without using my brain 
in theory you could co-ordinate swapping who is 3rd/4th if the brackets don't change much 😛
every SPA, or fight for it 
@tropic summit team 1 lost
isn't that mihara team meant to counter scarlet
wth does Rumani do why did you lose 5v2 😭
I have her on wishlist but haven't hit yet
she survives
It's rails note though :/
Scarlet can win but the chance reduces when Rumani Blanc p1 p2
But scarlet blanc/noise can easily win it I think. As long as Trina scarlet can nuke cindy who is not protected by biscuit anyway
The Mihara team's position matters a lot
U need 891k cp to fight
Need 838k cp
Graaah
Whale hunting need to try on CP deficit
Nah. Your cp is like the ship's weight
Your ship needs to be heavy enough compared to the whale's weight to hunt it
Vesti can do alot of CP deficit fight from what I have tried
Not when she cannot survive
that a nice invuln
Vesti needs to indom with Blanc then you can win
Team 1 is vesti revive and indom strat could possibly work if the indom lands correctly
That's a lot of if
If you fight CP deficit there's more uncertainty
So looking into fun rookie arena comps to annoy the shit out of someone im going 5 loss 5 wins against
Anything spicy anyones got cooked?
this man just spams synced shot vesti
Rosanna to kill vesti before the sync shot?
just wanna throw him curveballs tbh
Oof, bug abusing
since its fun
Is what it sounds, units shooting in synch
Like at the exact same frame
Ig 15.5% deficit is enough to get me done for
@tropic summit @swift mango
How is that a bug
On current version, it gives a ton of extra damage
it gives a huge dmg amp
This true btw 
is it worth to lvl up boots for pvp?
This man has issues, he took back his spot not even a second after I finished my attack 💀
Stop after overload
Now i have exp issue
Too much trading
Can’t you switch thelm and cindy on t2, burst cindy on deficit. Usually better in my experience 
You can
Click that play on the left bottom
I did and it crashed
Phone issue then

@clear vessel here
Sometimes I feel dumb 

Hi Aoi 
im spying for kits 
noone knows im here 
Just change xmaid to centi and let lap+ burst
That also works 
Ive already beat him before, but im curious what yall would use
Wth is biscuit doing there
Noah taunt 
Those teams were just the last ones I used, I didnt use them on these matchups
They were made for different teams lol
The fact that you used them in the first place is concerning 
T1 was for scar in deficit, t2 was just thrown together
Scar aims at P1
link still receives damage
Yeah, blanc needed biscuit so she didnt die to counters
2.5 Cindy
1.7 RL VesTac
1.7 RL Scarlet
Stall will do too
If the team works it works
I might need to roll more ATK for DPS
Losing to 1% HP Moran is just ass
Depend on what you have, in general you want to use her with RH for pre-burst kill
rh doesnt have preburst buffs ?
RH b1 will happen while vesti's rockets are flying toward the enemy and will benefit from RH B1 so the hope is that's enough to one shot key units on enemy team before they full burst
It's enough for my VesTac to kill 2RL Scarlet
So P1/P2 Scarlet have bigger issue now
????
Some of vesti's first volley of rockets auto attacks will get RH B1 buff if team is 2rl
ur gonna gamble on 2 rockets getting rh buff for oneshot?
all that speed on one team
is a waste
It works against 2RL, it's good
I dont do it im just explaining why it works
might as well tell them to just run abso trio and la+ and emi if u want preburst kill
but in general, thats not how u should use vesti
And how many rocks is that
and how much battery units are u gonna use in one team to achieve fast enough 2RL rh b1?\
- cs
This what I use for CA, they all have 18% CS
Lost against mirror with more investment lol
its still expensive regardless
and again if ur aiming for preburst kill then speed shouldnt be ur prio, nor should RH b1 have any place here
rhb1 should be for buffing nukes, not for buffing vesti 2 rockets midflight
2 is enough
18% cs anis 
Are we gonna get another battery for anniv 
Can scar counter fillup this 1.7%?
Ya it will, on avg
No jackal, just pure scar counter
Just dont get bad rng ez
A sniper could never 
Did you forget helmT was a sniper

Just depends if they give that burst gen passive to anything, but mbe they think it on helm was a mistake
no skip
Why is that cp gap so high
Because he has stupid amount of rolls on cp gapping
631 can reach 2.2m cp
Yeah my own teams are around 1.45~1.55m at 572?
Mbe need to buff burst levels to pad more or sth
Ya just mean most cost effective, prob need more everything
Ya that gap is like this @@
Must be lots of black lines ig
@leaden canyon why you lose top 32 smh
p1 p5 defender with biscuit, with vesti should be doable
blanc/vesti/emi/biscuit/rumani
I was against a scarlet player lol
Smh
if you can replace emi with rh that's even better
You coulda won this dair smh
Vesti nukes it wym
my suggestion was for this btw
Just survive
Why isnt rumani p3 btw
Or at least cindy
Because I copied the positioning from keripo
Ah i dont really need to bother him my bracket finally reached peace this season
How you gonna counter vesti if biscuit dies instantly
idk dude, it was rock paper scissors that my team ran into that
Alright im done messing around on that account, back to my main
I recognized literally only you in that CA
But that whales other teams are good enough that i dont think i could get 2/3 anyway
Since I dont have any cs on noah atm, any issues that would pop up from me running this?
Outside of vesti nuking p1-3
What's your point of putting 0 cs Noah P3
So Noise 0 CS
I'd go all the way to P5
Both 0 cs atm
Same CS 
Yeah, normally noah in p2 is fine but theres someone who has cindy in p1 which makes noah take taunt prio
And causes her to get stunned
I put her in p5, a good vesti still mpst likely kills siren but noise may survive
what's the strongest scarlet Trina setup?
All of em have different uses
P5 noah

Need b1 clip sg that does buff
why soda?
Wym, Pepper buffs Scarlet 
stack count?
Yes
I want firepower buff
Neon
She buffs all firepower
Because she's an Idol
Because she can stun Noise Noah or random 2 Nikkes
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oh I see
Hey we have another jpn server here @eager mountain
Sorry I forgot. 

Nekoworki too
Yeah, if you backtrack the chain of comments he already mentioned

JP server is… interesting. To see consistent CA participant copy my trash defense teams is wild
I’m out here playing 4D chess without realizing it

If it works it works.
ngl haven’t been attacked until now… just proves can’t put attack teams out there / some will copy paste anything
happy someone would put 4 meta units into one team tho lol
we in the same union
how strong is mana
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This you? @dense echo
No sir I’m I have 1 G in name
will i win?
Are you Lamious from SEA? 
5% her 2nd shot at 2rl exactly.
15% her 3rd shot same time at Emi 25% (skill 1 max and not counted)
21% her 3rd shot at exactly 2rl.
So the best investment not too heavy is 15% right ?
Hello hello
Unless u don’t proc biscuit on Cindy and jackal gets biscuit thing then ur screwed
Idk, however you see fit. I have to keep her at 11% for reasons.
You are that Lamious that got champ once or twice right? 
Yes i'm
I think you can win with miranda+ instead, but you can try with rh first
-. - it is SpA
there is no retry
Scarlet burst do a not count as a shot Miranda’s crit chance thing won’t apply
Or that’s what I was told
Why did u keep her at 11?
Because I accidentally made her higher than 5%. 
You win if you'ren't die pre-burst
It's not good if above 5% ?
Mine 18%
Harder to do the synch shot if above 5%. 
Also, 11% makes her 2nd shot cause 2rl Noah not stunned by Siren.
I see thx u
It's fine, you're not wrong
I'm saying that cause i just experienced many losses against a huge cp with rh but many wins with miranda+
I don’t have enough crit rate on my scarlet to be able to run Miranda
So it's not based on data
Miran is a much stronger buffer for Emi than RH. The only reason I would use RH over Miranda is because my RH's CP is much higher. 
All rapunzel luck goes to rh
My RH and Scarlet both Core+3. 

Doesn't matter though, my core+3 sr15 tempering scarlet still die to sr5 lb1 Rossanna from day one players like you in CA because research gap. 
Doesn't matter though, my core+3 sr15 tempering scarlet still die to sr5 lb1 Rossanna from day one players like you in CA because research gap. 
Blame it on your Green name.
So I quote you instead of rakuen.
Time to whale if they sell kits. 
I mean the skill kits
Yeah, anything you lack. Prepare the card
Doll kits happen from just pulling anyway
MLB will happen I assure u
Skip will happen to me I assure you. 
Btw can we make scar reload when she is about to burst to manipulate miranda+ crit?

U can with ammo count
Actually you can, 32 ammo and she would reload right when she slash at 2rl. And dodge Siren.
How many ammo for 2rl team?
I like between 30 and 32
So it's exact 32?
wouldnt that depend on how fast u burst 2RL b1?
But she slash before full burst so the slash doesn't take effect with Miranda guarantee Crit.
But before it happens
miranda b1 doesnt take into effect before fullburst?
Slash is also not a shot so it won’t get guaranteed crit period
It's her s2
So the only way is to run volume then
oh u mean that
Not worth unless you had 7-8 Crit lines. Volume doesn't guarantee a Crit either, even at max s3 on volume, 4 black Crit rate on Scarlet, she still lack 10% to 100%
@fathom rock im hunting for gold betting frame again, hows your matchup
U can get it multiple times?
@leaden marten check spa
It's fine
in many games 80+ crit chance is considered good enough crit
Crit gacha is insanity
Well, unless your whole team had 25% CS you won't hit 2rl b3 before siren Stun without lots of feeds.
Helm 18-21% on Jackal teams with lots of feeds from enemy SG could make scarlet swing before siren stun her even with 33+ ammo.
good luck with the matches today @hollow lagoon @cunning crown
I didn't get to vote on yours this time

I prefer the moran one, moran guy sounds more fun also
Sure lol
my whale is slacking a lot lately, I've held SPA1 for 5d now they didn't try to contest it this season
despite the massive back and forth we had for the previous 5
maybe they realised it was pointless 😛
Haven't I seen you be active before how are u still bronze
Are u from prydwen server
Yep we met there
Idk maybe i don’t yap enough here
@shell hazel how much did you need to yap to reach challenger/red?
if you think you talked enough then you haven't yet
yap more you must
step 1 - yap
step 2 - am I red yet? if no go to step 1. if yes go to step 3.
step 3 - yap. go to step 1.
haha. I'm on and off with the chatter tbh, I don't yap all day every day 🙂
Btw booba either gave up or he is preparing something after the new chapters
they've been slacking on even signing in/doing dailies
if they wanted to beat me with overwhelming power they'd be more on the ball with the dailies I think
I saw them offline for 2days recently, that is a whole day of outpost at 100%
Hmm interesting
outpost if full is like 15% efficiency
I've never hit 100% btw lol, If I'm locked in I'm locked in
Maybe after losing serially in SPA made them lose interest
well it's losing to someone with 30 less sync and way less whale cores
for them maybe the spending isn't giving them the power boost to just win
could also just be busy in real life or a bit bored, will happen to us all at some point prob
by tomorrow + new chapters I'm probably good for 424 or 425 jump
Well it happened to me that i was busy and outpost filled up
I can usually sneak on once or twice per day, can even check it whilst I'm making tea at work 🙂
In my SPA, top 5 is opening everything they get right away, so i’m trying to keep the lv 15 difference
I have like 150 core dust crates
Play for the long term
Lose first then win later haha
I'm thinking after this anni I should be around 441 should I stop opening boxes and wait for the core dust per hour jump to 102?
Well yeah I’m more invested so I probably can let them escape with a few levels and i’ll be still good
Mirror container is 461 and above I think so I can keep the core dust until the dust jumps to 102 via normal campaign
If it’s not urgent i would wait
It looks like 2 more patches means around half year anni we should reach 102 via normal stages
Or around the jan-feb
2 more patches will let you reach 102cd at MC hard
With anni it will be 1 more right? And we don't have to fight MC hard
I have like 1500 cd crates - if I jump from 89 to 91 with the new chapters, it's only gaining me 3000 cd
it's a nice bonus for free, but normally I just open as I go as well
once the anni is over I'll probably just open as I get stuff again, and then maybe start saving after I hit 441
I see. I will just try to keep the distance and save up if possible
someone hasnt updated their defense since they started the game 
Evil
only reason my bricked alt gets somewhere in pvp
I like to save a bit nearer the chapter releases atm, but after you hit major cp breakpoints you can afford to somewhat
may push a bit more if I'm able to clear more chapters
yea i will try to do something like that
hopefully i won't get real whales at reshuffle
mine just added the 1 mainly, there was another guy who was ahead of me who was also a whale but not as much as the other guy 😛
they quit though, their final message in chinese was along the lines of "I surrender" lol
@oblique gyro I attacked everyone near the top except for you, can you get back to 2nd? 😄
wait a minute... where's your helmT? is she lower CP than your xmaiden?
Since I finally obtained Vesti today I was wondering if anyone could help me make new Sp. Def teams? These are my good noodles
oh oke gonna need to indom that team then
vestiTU blanc rh centi jackal
or
scarlet blanc rh centi jackal
midhara DoT actually managed to finish you off with the time biscuit provided to the defenders
We are indom on T3
T1 indom or noah biscuit with generic B3 dps or nuke
T2 indom or noah/bay or rosanna
T3 it's biscuitless, can indom DPS or anything behind noah with a DPS B3
oh alrighty we can change approach then
2RL double buff scar can beat slow cindy but don't think it's 100%
can be some rng - can send it anyway but I'd try and build the other two teams to give them good odds of winning
@rich ledge remind me your CS% on vestiTU?
11%
At first I was going to see if I needed Helm on Vesti team or not, so I avoided her use (that and getting one shot by Rosanna)
ah perfect
My double buff scarlet lost badly
he got finished off by midhara DoT
run this next
it's going to be curious if you can outdamage their heavy sustain oriented T3
they've noise hp+ and healing, rapunzel healing, helmt lifesteal and bay shared damage, with jackal linking on helmt and noise
I'll do that tonight 
you could add RH instead of rumani, but i'm not sure you're fast enough for noah to B2 before helmT can B3
it would increase the odds of you wiping, but i've no data if you're actually in time for noah
Do I roll ATK or ELE for MiharaOS in Cindy comp?
My vesti ammo is like 11 haha slightly scuffed but normally it kills before that not sure if it will affect vs sustain
if you don't mind give it a shot and record, this is a curious damage test on vesti
with indom scarlet T1 should now be granted
it can win but it can depend, I'd send two other teams that can beat the other two teams if possible
Ok we will wait until they go to sleep
do you really wanna miss the chance to damage test a vestiTU against a full sustain lineup? this is popcorn worth
🍿
If his helm is fast may pop mine
a noise that is jackal and bay linked it's very interesting
nah you're both 2RL with rumani
and you're bursting with vesti not helmt
their helmt burst will be soaked by noah
the real deal starts after noah shield expires
I mean if we're talking for science
I'm in 🍿
elk - prepare the gems
I should have just put anis in p1 instead of scar lol
ye but just burst with cindy and sacc helmt, so you're lethal on the whole team and not just p1
noah bis cindy helmt flex b1
BLUFFING
@violet spoke I'm an idiot 
I'm not realizing at all that he isn't investing in the first place
Nah just 1 try. I'm gonna CP jump when anni drops hopefully I can catch up to get C4 still
The guy that was attacking me a ton ended up being in here and now we dont care who is #3 
I thought he had scarlet but turns out we both were very unlucky
wowie, a peaceful resolution achieved
that's some good ending... 
