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I'm cooking with Nayuta right now. But because of SMG, you need to do a super fast + stall team with her
her S2 seems to be 600% ATK every 1.5s. That alone is enough to kill everyone during FB
If succeed defending , just remember me -jolteon- as ada’s beloved husband❤️
I still prefer Blanc Ada 
I'm waiting weird PvP cook this anniv
too many good b2s 
Dont you worry
The moment I see the kits ill be cooking
His name is right there
So is that the origin of ur name? Probably the other person likes godfather too then
It's a sign you need to join the CA race
Someone actually made it to top 16 with 0 PvP investment
Just pure CP pad to pass top4 SP and proper comp placement
Trina?
we meet in ca sir
today match
I was rank 3 yesterday but virtue dropped me to 4 and I'm guessing ledpipe got me later
I'm glad he finally gave up
It's been months of this
Meanwhile I can’t explain what ever gave this guy the confidence to take on me
this a decent team comp?
You're probably the only one he can test against
Or not
He’s half me cp, he can test the very meaning of vaporization
i think its easier yeah i only started like in june
Have biscuit?
I may sound like a broken record but mad props to the railgun! The defense team setup is solid so far!
Would see ur unit box first
Question is are you doing cp pad or can u afford to run actually mechanically sound teams
some are cp pad like rrh
Ya might as well switch anchor with biscuit
So ur Blanc can’t die
And switch position of helm and rhh
U don’t need to invest
She’s just battery
Should prob run a scarlet comp over sg
Why? Her damage link is post 30 seconds
Like u have to be insane to build around that
U can pad 4/4/4
Ada is not battery
She’s damage proc and a no feed rl
my scarlet isnt built since i dont have gear for her yet
i think her skill is like 7 4 4
So u are running pad
Her skills don't really do damage. She literally just has a clip RL that's all you need.
yeah i guess so
So are u winning in PvP or no?
win and lose id say
got to challenger 10
and deranked
usually moving between d7-d1
i was thinking its probably cuz my atk and def teams are the same
Such is the padding life
i think usually how i win is i send my weakest team vs their strongest and balanced the two others
Yes
maybe i could with them for a more balanced team comp i was thinking
i got the sg team from prydwen
What’s ur win rate with that?
vesti is strong enough to win by herself?
i just found it today
so im not sure yet
but ive faced a person with that comp once and they wiped me
alright ill try them out
Prob should ask someone else, since my approach is brute force
But they prob sleeping
i thought ppl said to put alice with sbs for more charge spd
That sg team is dead on arrival, just pad ur t3 or run scarlet so people waste a Noah on it
lol
is it not good?
Refer to pinned teams when in doubt 
im just wondering maybe its more a pve thing i guess
pvp and pve meta/considerations are completely different. Throw pve logic out the window 
It’s not throw out of window
Its like, when u ask a question, it should make sense
Throw out helm? Ok u cant make 5 rl, throw out biscuit and Blanc dies and u cant burst
well its good to know still kinda new to pvp
Would prob invest in scar Trina
If I were u
Iu atleast make people waste a Noah or bay on it
yeah ive been farming the skill mats maxing them burns through so many
Sg team in sp arena is like, thx for burst gen now be very dead
Bay could prob save u but u should rosana instead of tove
Prydwen literally got derped out on in this chat earlier today for recommending tove for PvP
i can use the same teams for rookie and sp or i have to change?
If ur gonna rookie prob the vesti one
Harder to crack
The question is rapunzel positioning
P1 could gib stun which could be very fancy
But could also die
2rl vesti is fancy nuff as is tbh
Hehe
They might be able to counter it with a proper Rosana team,
Funny cook
Wonder if I can stack enough snipers to kill the Noah

just a theoretical
@faint sphinx i think same team also can win this right?
Rosa gonna hit both
The question is if rapunzel res, will u get Vesti back or helm back
If shes in p1 or 2(stupid) then may only hit 1
Thats why I said it was stupid
this cp on that one is a bit low itll be fine?
U can pad
But u won’t have mechanically sound team
It’s ur choice
U check ur win rate with mechanical vs pad and u make a decision
Even at 281 im only at 2 good pvp teams
Now’s not the time to invest anything, anni in 3 days
Let me invest my teams
Unless nayuta, chime, or liberalio fully phases out sg team i still need to build drake and soda
B soda or mg soda
Both tbh, but b.soda rn
I just want her invested enough to not insta die In p2
Then soda wont stun noah and noise every time
Fair point but u can gamble even more with non taunt soda

I still won’t touch mg soda my self tho, B soda I atleast use fo raids
If I invest mg soda with doll and ol gear I use her in ca only
In which case??????
Invest CA 
Railtracer said it’s stupid so it prob is
the teams you suggested are for defense or atk?
Rail thinks playing the game is stupid atp
or can work for both
Attack is case by case, no universal teams
Nice bait
It only works as defense between 1am and 2pm, and u can only attack with it between 6 am and 9pm


Jackal for dmg red
sr15 dmg red on noah just for u to forever use noah with bisc invul anyway 
My Noah hasn't seen biscuit in quite a long time
Make an honest woman of rouge, look at all those dupes she's blessed you with 
you need a bit of ele atk%, then usable against water code
you're not lethal against most units
i'd rather this
emilia/laplaceT/vestiTU interchangable
run w/e is on highest CP, although emilia would be BiS as you can hit ele weak link
that opponent shouldn't be beating you anymore, you should be gapping on 1 team and running strong remaining 2 teams
(on defense)
run 2 2RL teams with stalling and 1 heavy padded team
Thanks! Worked like a charm
I've seen it, this is the only video anyone really posted for ada, and doesn't show context on power/rolls of both teams, opposing team is a weird blanc variant of cindy.
have you seen Blanc Ada version too 
that being said ada barely seems to see any use in CA or SPA as there are better burst gen/off-burst dps like xmaiden and lapT, and single target nukers aren't usually what people run
right but you'd probably be better off with blanc on slow cindy for CA or blanc with indom vesti in SPA
or you can run Noah Vesti Jackal and Blanc Ada 
which was the top 1 team in Global last time
as things seem to me my brackets don't run her, and nor do people like keripo either
check other top 1. Your sample is too small I believe. Just like when you said Mana is a must on Moran Nero comp 
Ha ha no
Corleone was in our CA but quit playing it seems #pvp-arena message
for Sanis, we have other variations true, but it doesn't lower her rating. Still one of the strongest stall bypassing (Biscuit wall)
Sbs on the other hand 
He could have some issue like me

Yeah, you should beat him with this.
we looked at that already opponent has CS they have none, so they got outsped and cindy got enough of the nuke through to win it
what?
when did I say that?
my mana isn't even built
s.anis is an attack only unit these days, you won't run her on def unless you lack other options
and you won't run her in CA because you can't tell what fights she'll get in
that is why I think she is lower on the tl than prydwen has her at
oopsie I thought slow cindy. 
do you have record of any top 1? I hope to access any database possible so I could saved them into this.
https://discord.com/channels/1314994208691589190/1361204166919458896
we only have record of SEA from season 3.
you too.
I don't record them too much work
I remember you keep some record hippo
did they put any into enikk app? https://enikk.app/

just need the champ team
Other guys no business keeping.
I will record NA lul for you this season
join discord of Section (of LD) it's a public channel there.
@unique mountain
I didn't necessarily keep it I only have the champ team from the last CA
you could find the discord link on his profile.
but mine is not the very highest bracket in global anyway I'm too new/low sync to see those
Are you from same CA as Rosy? We have Rosy champ there already. If not, great.
no Rosy and Rail probably in the tier above mine
Share with me or you could jump to the channel there to share. Could post directly into the CA 14 winner threat as well.
or was it 15? 
Thanks brotha. 
damn I knew it would have too many 😄
yeah 4 pic per comment.
Nice
I'm basically running same thing didnt have anything I wanted to experiment in
my slow cindy order is slightly diff though, and my soda is p4 as mine has no doll
ros at p4 because I forgot to move to p5 😛
i'm running this
I just don't wanna run copy pasta. But my bad decision moving HelmT position in ReiT team costed me the lose in Top 64 lol.
I don't mind copy pasta tbh but I will run my own cook if I feel like it as well
I'm on Day1 CA bracket but I don't see anyone from this server 
Well, Now that I know it's bad against shot gun I would just move HelmT back to p2. 
@quick lake arent you Japanese server as well?
my mihara needs more atk though due to biscuit being higher
so helm snipes biscuit :9
Im global ezpz
what? 
best server 🤝
I'm not Japanese tho
seriously? 
yes, im global. easy SR, lazy SPA 
I'm on Momo's SP bracket
@eager mountain looks like you are the only Japanese server guy here along with that 11 times champ Neko something.... (too many neko, his account been light Green didn't help).
TiBi is Japanese 
@ nekoworki
Also Global #1 now has like 5 players lol
That one guy failed to bear the title
yeah so it does, 5 x 5 times winners
I think people catch up on teams/investments some
He just has very bad match up for few seasons straight lol
it's more scambled in SEA, everyone got a chance for CA champ.
Bracket one, Hoboman 3 time, The max level whale 5.
2nd, 1 guy 3 times.
3rd, 3 guys 3 times including me. (all 3 of my former smol bracket though)
4th, full of newbie now so none. 
evil


3 more hours ish before I find out if I’m ded
even if you die, you've endless attempts

he already won it twice
same as me
Oh right
yeah we both in the won it twice bucket
Idk I been dying at 64 so much I don’t recall
rng smiled on me for one, and power of friendship for the other
it got tougher in the latest shuffle I think
some new opponents with older accounts
tenshi seems to have gone out in quals though this time
one of my wins I beat the whale from my SPA in the finals 

maybe it's why they spent so much time trying to take SPA 1 off me, payback
I didn't let em though, on track for win number 6 in a row
Start buying the selector
Then again him being on 29-7 prob gonna bit him regardless
from tomorrow 
buy them before other non wind
I just buy the non selector ones cuz I need them all
I always try to buy the selector
stop buying the top 3 with highest count and buy selector instead. 
I think so we'll see. I think I'll get closer in sync than ever before but also that they'll still out-sync me for now
Ur saying stop buying wind then 
not being more than one cp gap behind though should be enough to keep me competitive
aside from wind it is.
Yeah but u prob have 3 box so its whatever
I'm drowning in SMG and SR.
looks at 0 boxes
I barely have any purple dolls at all certainly can't do that atm
I did 5-7 times and still drowning in SR doll.
Anni prob have packs that give box anyway
I won't spend to buy dolls
I'm more hoping the events/freebies can get me one
Day1 mlb Nyuta and use for Union raid is my plan
Day 1 mlb/ invest
Day 2 hit 521 during hard union raid
@hollow lagoon didn't you start at same time as hippo?
after me 
No
...after?
after
why are you outlevelling m-... ah w/e 🐳
I could done a lot with the money I spent in dis game
yes... 😄
fish waifu it is
And real human girls are icky
the real problem with real life relationships is the maintenance they require
one of the real reasons we need android waifus, no more need to bother with keeping up with bs
unfortunately, we just don't have the time or strength anymore
My friend who’s a simp got married lately
That relationship looks like it’s gonna go downhill
:9
Do I actuallly copium quantum to 8 with the upcoming union raid…
Or do I replace xmica with pepper
I didn't need to in the end lol I miscalculated 😄
I don't need the quantum on noah no idea why I thought I did
Idk I saw that in like 
I have 5 quantums now though so I suppose may come in handy
don't think I'll boost beyond 8 however, tempura and vigor instead
zanta who was the mega whale who was newer than both of us but put even your sync to shame? 😄
flirt phase: fun and nice
honeymoon phase: fun, nice, plenty of eggs
marriage/steady phase: responsability, duty, chores, maintenance, way less eggs
later marriage: why did i get married, no more eggs
you're higher sync than Rail is 

Rail is lower than 511?
f2p even day 1 probably not much over 600
461 and struggling, can go up to 490+ at best
Rail is f2p and not day 1
Ur old account prob lots of 4 ele 4 atk, just beat behemoth on sync 321 or something i believe in you
I can jump 423 I think, but I keep saving for new chapters for a few days
For some reason my sync gains are lowering
what are those things, they sound yummy 
💳 solves
also unbrick your hard mode 28 chapter at your sync 
Meanwhile I play crown with CS
Gonna have to do the thing
My sanis have some CD lines too

How do you know
don't do it, it's not worth it
Where are you anyways, mirrior container?
spend your money on hoes instead, like on nikk- wait wut.
the one and only
Man I had to clear that on 481 I feel sad
we're in the same CA ranking table I found you already 😄
Where I need to stalk
I see evil
I see Bready main
not in game atm @tropic summit you got to MC or past it?
32-32
@tropic summit can you help with this?
ok so is at MC then
but think with the chapter jumps would be high enough sync to smash it
I doubt I can ever get to his bracket
I mean if I go through at 481
Any normal person with actually functional ol lines and gear levels that’s not 3/3/3/3 should go through 481 no issue
My Ein is 3/3/3/3 8/8/8 Lel
brackets will be based on account age for CA if that's what you mean - I doubt we'll wind up in same ones due to account age
And 1 ele
whats wrong with 3/3/3/3 i put mine at 3/3/3/3 mostly
its more cost efficient
People with old accounts have 5/5/5/x for funsies
Me neither except crown and Cinderella
i look at the stat gain its like not worth it
Rest are like 5/5/5/3 or 4
oh i turned silver
He must be fighting whales for that caption lol
yeah he is
he showed them before, quite a lot more sync
one of the big ones quit though
They never really quit
Got dis one in my bracket, the Chinese reads “naturally can beat the whale”
One time I beat my whale to the ground, then he bought 100 Sync level
I mean
A long time ago @shell hazel witness me beat my whale by catching up
That dude farms me 5x every day and I didn’t like that
then you become the new whale
So I caught up, and whenever he gets rank1 I gem to down him, I don’t care about anyone else or my own rank neither do I update my def so he won’t know what I down him with, repeated for 2 weeks and he give up
Truly a whale move
Poor bastard, shouldent have farmed me 5 x everyday
help me to beat these please
same. but he left the game and i didn't pass his sync 8 months later lol
do my cooks work?
I was about to say Scarlet Soda for T3, then I remembered I beat 2RL Scarlet with 1.7VesTac yesterday
I'm sure VesTac is at least 2RL on that comp, so your HelmT hitting nothing
im scared that my scarlet is nuked before bursting
i dont believe his vesti has 15% cs
not enough cp anyway
i lied
Don't put P1 Scarlet
I don't think VesTac alone is enough to nuke before 2RL burst 3
🤔
Supporter has highest HP, should be OK unless that VesTac is very built
Can also use Tempering/Vigor if you don't believe them
and will i do enough dmg
Is that even a question 
Scarlet Trina can nuke buffed Cindy. left alone VesTac XMaiden
Esp if he's 2.5, Soda will be stunning both Noise Noah
should i give jackal quantum as well
How you died 
How Soda alive and Trina died
What about Soda Jackal Scarlet Trina Centi then
That Jackal SR15
Also Tempering 
Yeah but Jackal P2 feel safer no?
Yeah she should
How many cases u guys saved?
I havent attack anyone in my bracket for 3 seasons already
I just don't
What 17k omg
I'll opening cases till I reach 400
17k is saved from half anni till now?
no
i have this small number now
i open cases from time to time but never open them all
Would ur level be alot lower than others in ur bracket?
Saving that much and a 30 sync difference is so much
well u can see. im 36 levels lower than the guy i fight against
I think he buys coredust now. I don't and I will never do
other guys also hoard cd so you cannot tell but im confident that my sync is higher than average players
i open cases when i actually need them
- pushing hard campaign
- pushing manufacturer tower
- union raid (I want to stay in top damage contributors)
- SpA
because i can still beat the guy at 36 levels lower, im chilling
but i will open cases in 3 days to reach 641
the key is, open cases when you need to. hoard otherwise
The average players like are 10 chapters behind in hard mode
I'm only 5 chapters away from #1 in my local leaderboard
He's PvE tryhard, I ain't compete with him
im basically on par with the spenders in terms of hardmode maybe 1 chapter away since everyone is stuck at 32 MC hard
Hey fellas, since a kind fella helped me out with these, I've obtaine Blanc, Jackal and Ein. I think the first 2 can definitely get slotted in somewhere, any ideas?
They'll be somewhat big CP drops if replacing siren-crown-rrh-naga-sbs, but for anything else itll be around a 6k drop max, my team cp being 102 119 141 in that order
Good news though, with the teams you gave me, the whale in my bracket tried and lost to take my spot @tropic summit, my goat 🙏
He only tried once so either the wallets coming out today or he just doesnt care
Is it possible the dude who is beating me is just using helm to kill 3 people off jackal
Is there a way to stop her from killing all linked targets?
helm is a B3, you can taunt her B3 on same speed with moran or just have a rosanna on defense to punish her if she's running without noise/moran themselves
I'm betting theyre using this or something similar involving helm to beat one of my team
indom direct counter is anything that can force misindom, break jackal link or nuke you before you indom
you can work around those with taunting, rosanna or just CS% advantage
If they were using helm to snipe do you think theyre hitting my vesti team?
again biscuit with jackal? split them up 
But it will slow them down 🙁
Im only defending vs one person
I can always try to split them up
How should I split them
Should I run jackal in my pad team 
You mentioned how to split them a while ago and it would make them 3rl but I forgot how
Mornin chat
What's up
I'm still stuck on mirror container
I think if I do a few kraken I can give my Cindy some ele and actually get out of there though
then you balance them out as needed
biscuit and jackal must not be together in SParena
because your opponent can easily skip overcommitted teams
indom doesn't need biscuit
What if I biscuit my bay team
Will that be annoying or too slow
I guess it cant get even slower
bay team is weak, cindy team is weak, vesti team is skippable, work on that
I cleared Mirror Container & Crystal Armor with Ein Ada duo 
you need lethal nuke or stalling DPS
If only I had Noah or scarlet
lethal nuke without anti nuke will just get nuked
yes well without noah as i said before you're essentially 1 team less
easy to punish your teams
Campaign?
Yeah just kill it in phase 1
I can't do that but I understand phase 2 now
What rl do you think I should go for
And do you think I should make another pad team or just a proper one
you've indom and a bay team
indom is punished by helmT unless you've CS% advantage, bay is punished by vestiTU/RRH/emilia
opponent can deal with both and skip CP pad
you're screwed... 
Ive run into the problem that my "cp pad" is the same cp as my other 2 teams
solved by biscuit locked teams
SG team is too easy on sp arena
And jackal
I dont think this dude knows what he's doing
not necessarely, rosanna can deal with that
He knows less than me
p3 it's exposed to vestiTU, p4
Thats what I was thinking, thx
you can give it a shoot 
OH 7 AM
I NEED TO RECORD THE PO- nah, ig just knowing it is enough
Is that why sg is good in champ
Yesterday I saw Siren not stunning Poli treasure, just after she bursted
You dont know what youre being put against

Oh right, 7 am, I must snipe back
Im worried abt my top 16 match in CA, idk if noise can tank sg team
as they say "there's always next time"
No
bsoda melts noise unless you're split tanking with noah
Its a noise noah team, but idk what split tanking is
it means noise in p1, noah p2 with noah taunt priority
that leads 2 sgs to shoot p2 and remaining sgs to shoot p1
if you drag bsoda away from noise, you can survive
I have a backup b1 but noise dying might make them faster than me
I want noise burst so I can survive rosa
noise is non clip RL, are you reaching the threshold with noise specifically? if not you're not slower
Not really, its mostly vesti, helm, and noah doing the work
I should mention that they have t.poli p1
So i may be able to deny burst with siren
Idk, literally every matchup is rng
Terrible time
it's RNG the moment you select your team order
sh*tty game mode
I have no ele on her 
rapunzel scarlet lap trina jackal, rapu and lap linked, will rapu stun go off?
this is for SP defense
This hurts so bad, stop it
C'mon, stop
Need help for this please
Why put Siren P1?
your teams are on the left
centi can be subbed with laplaceT/emilia if she does not steal scarlet link
I tried a Moran version and lost too
Thanks can't do without you haha
Burst gen is good
Decent?
@raven plover explain
burst gen
Dang
Does he need CS?
I lost with it so not goated 
Wait jackal is used twice 🤭
she, and no, dont invest in her, she is just to fill the slot with unit that at least provide a good enough speed like SR Anis, SR Anis you can consider investing, but I doubt you seeing Pascal in some high level matches. What sync are we talking?
trina centi rumani on quantum lvl 3+, scarlet temperance
for rumani in T3 just use flex clip SG tier (xmaiden, drakeT, bsoda, noir... etc, must not steal link from vestiTU)
But yeah I’m around 245ish, and I see some people running him
wild that you see him here, usually it would be SR anis at best, at 245 people already have better options usually
Oh
Well I just wanted to know why, thought he had some hidden passives or skills I didn’t know about
nah, i believe it's just for speed, someone could correct me
i've never seen pascal in spa, and only few cycles in a row in CA when we all was still either at 160 sync or slightly above, so like around ~150-200 account level
Aigh thanks
Ok I'll hit him tomorrow morning haha
time to find out
Especially staying in C5. 
how was SG match?
Eah
Out played by a pro player. 
i was believing, but 
my slow cindy died to vesti
What I won an ex champ
RNG rooting so hard for him lmao
Let the gem war begin💳
how come I lost? wtf man
good s2 RNG on scarlet side probably
the fact scarlet is alive means rosanna didn't get to do shit there
Any recommendations against this setup?
what c5 

my rosanna got killed before bursting bruh
Investment and research diff. It's common I lose in all SG match against scarlet whether I used SG or Scarlet here. 
@shell hazel my rosa scarlet took out the slow cindycomp
yep scarlet s2 funzies 
my sync is higher than his
forgot to record but it worked 🙂 tyvm
what can I use here now?
I don't wanna bet on a small attack boost
My Scarlet even sr15 Tempering and core+3. 
rosanna sr15
and tempering 15
Won by the literal hair
Well... Look at your research level, your Rossanna lines and LB too...
read it as liter hair at first 
Did your Rossanna die before she burst by counter? Or her burst not strong enough?

try (record if you can)
jackal vestiTU helmT blanc biscuit
jackal quantum
vestiTU temperance
helmT temperance
blanc vigor
biscuit vigor
not burst at all 
my 3w2L could been a 1w4L
Guess his Scarlet high ATK, Crit rate and Crit dmg. 
lemme record so i can see if crit happened often
just like yours 
no
Well, I won like that against Rossanna guys of same research level. But no dice against current bracket. 
Rosanna without jackal can't win against scar in ca
My rosanna even got def stat but still dying
how close was SG one? i would assume you killed his naga fast but died pretty much right after your noir died? cause his soda survived and he just bursted you down before you did?
asking just for theory crafting/prediction purposes
Nah, my Scarlet 100% lose chance against any Rossanna in my current bracket. 
no i werent shooting naga
In those teams you gave me, is replacing Liter with Jackal enough to make team 3 burst?
oh, you was def 🫡
you posted it yesterday you on the left and his on the right, so i've assumed you attacking 🫡
if you've jackal built up, potentially multiple teams will change
jackal purpose is not just being a battery, but linking units for earning burst gen and at same time resistance
ye was.....? if they didnt have naga it would been different, they managed to burst even tho i murked their xanne
We must carry his hope into top 8, against all non-believers 
She isnt built, i just pulled Blanc, Jackal and Ein since last time
my next guy is a tough chinese man i have low hope with my copium tier cook
Replacing liter for jackal made team 3 go from 142 to 141 ish
I think jackal will link my 2 dps
I got you bro 👍
ok then she can sub anis and give you naga and noise/cindy linked
- if noise linked, noise p1, naga p2
- if noise not linked, noise p2 naga p1
btw biscuit got the indom tho, it was still enough to win because her indom ran out later but is that what's suposed to happen?
but i declaired if i go past top 32 i wont reset xmica
so it is
Didn't work unfortunately, here's the vids (2nd vid I tried moving the team a bit)
Ill do this then ty
Yeah, mihara is supposed to die and then start doing tick damage to the opponent. Tbh it doesn’t really matter if you burst or not since mihara will kill them
Not past yet though
eh they outheal your damage 
You just want someone on your team to get blanc indom
not sure what would be better there, to be on attack or def, but yea, naga saved him apparently 
i used naga instead of mihara tho
Oh, lol, then yeah cindy wiped and ur indom lasted longer since u bursted slower
already did. i won that one, next one is for top 16
@tropic summit @shell hazel cindy nuke bypass bay reduction again
my option for that slot would be pepper?

Oo I keep thinking the next battle is top 32
My Biscuit ATK is 91K, while MiharaOS is 110K
Yet Biscuit got Nuked somehow 
I demand compensation
Bro why is biscuit p3 😭
The question is why she got Nuked
guess slow cindy magic time
blanc rumani biscuit midhara cindy
HelmT burst is nuking highest attack
Ur whole team is defender she is the only supporter
Funny I was thinking about trying this lol
Supporter have higher attack
Mihara is Defender 
Oh shoot i forgot
ye that would at least punish moran and noah and might be lethal before they outheal
I am blind 💀 yeah that makes no sense
Naga and Pepper linked, my Noise is 200 atk behind Pepper, I can just upgrade gear to make noise link instead
I mean you can test out in shooting range and check who gets buff by using miranda treasure
If it is biscuit then that checks out why she got nuked
I should win 1,2,5 for this?
Although mihara should 100% have more attack than biscuit
The idea is having Mihara die right? Would P2 make more sense? Or in this case it doesn’t really matter?
Oh wait do any of the opponents have debuff attack for your highest attack unit? That is probably why
They could be reducing mihara’s final attack which is why biscuit got targeted by helm’s burst instead
you want to ensure rumani and blanc are behind invulnerability considering their splash p3 isn't safe either
cindy decoy should ideally remain intact so leave her on p5, biscuit can then take p4
mihara can be killed in p2 or p3
Same story lmao, although I kind of like my matchups. Dinner is on me if we can make it through chinatown 
that'd be ideal, noise linked is a strong synergy
and allows you to run her safely in p1
Actually i cant make Noise atk higher than Pepper without a doll D:
it's fine leave her as is, will still serve her purpose
For now ill keep her p2 until solo raid, thanks again for the help
Okay gotcha, I was asking cuz biscuit was on b3 and mihara on p4 when you sent it, so I wasn't sure
Would slotting Anis over Mast in t3 be better?
I'll give it a shot and report results
Theyre similar cp
@shell hazel lost cuz his biscuit has higher atk then mihara OS
, sniped by helm and slow cindy fell apart
both can die for what's worth, just make sure midhara is your highest atk% in that comp so helmT snipes her
check my tag
ping
Got em, thanks bruv, I do appreciate it!
your cover was 0 when cindy nukes, you deny nothing and just share damage with the link
that's a slow cindy, it's a direct counter to bay if she's without cover when she nukes
as you're hit on ele advantage (helm is water code against cindy's ele code nuke)
for bay to absorb the nuke hits, she needs to have cover remaining
no she dont need cover
have you use bay bis before?
she share dmg from team and THEN her cover share with her
ok
if she immunity she will nulitify all her teamate dmg, i do use it million times
Sorry to ask again 🙏 , would Anis over M-Mast in my t3 be better, both are similar cp
ye makes that faster
Tyty
Same order i assume, or anis in p4
would nero moran combo work vs this team?
open a ticket with support and tell them bay is not working as intended when her cover is down 
unfortunately it is working as intended, bay without cover cannot deny damage but will just share it
but if this is not working as intended for you, just open a ticket
and report it here https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/1047834307550519338
that cindy-bay match up looks normal
do you know how strong is that cindy? because blanc burst+ ele dmg against helm should make for the dps lost against biscuit S2+ bay shared dmg
yeah then all this spa and rk test b4 is wrong, the ca mode is the truth
i did it wrong all the time but lived in a fantasy
you lose DR because of blanc, so you'd be tanking 10s of indom without full resistance... but still make it maybe?
moran dont like true dmg me thinks
I placed them in this order, unless Anis in p4 is more important
i thought i was smart, but now thats the reason why this comp no one use before
how silly
it's fine that team is dead to anything anyway, just padding
depends in what true dmg hit moran, she can tank with some buffs... (not real true dmg)
mm what about vs the cindy team?
Ok, yeah i think people will avoid it since its my highest, would Blanc over Liter make it any better?
then you can't burst anymore, you still need a b1
the slower indom wins, so as long as you make it alive to burst, sure
let me remake the teams
rookie question... are there too many taunters here to use a 2RL siren team that ensures she stuns noah?
cindy hit 7 times with burst there, even with biscuit S2 for bay and rumani she still hit a lot, after that is all her normal atks... that also hit hard with blanc burst and you can't heal back with helm b3 because you deal 0 dmg against enemy biscuit 2 on blanc
Blanc over Anchor in t2? Since both heal and she'd give synergy with Noir?
Or am i basically waiting for more units before using Blanc
he thinks if bay is under biscuit invul, no dmg shared, thats why 
no i didnt think that
- if siren is p1 or p2, she'll get taunted by whoever in the enemy has taunt priority (noise or noah), if noise, she's siren immune
- if siren is p3 or p4 or p5 she will shoot p1 and won't be taunted, if noah isn't 11%CS team wide, she's not siren immune and can be stunned
but 15% dmg from cindy is not that absurb
that looks normal to me, i tried that team before (bay fan... tan lines fan...) and she only block part of the shared dmg+ the hits to her "if" she already proc biscuit S2
whats the immunity about then
xd
someone tell him he needs to have bay's cover intact or partially available to nullify damage 
tks sensei... more than likely has 11% CS... ill test my luck with the other 2 teams
yea thats what should happen, when he mentioned "immunity" I thought he thinks if bay immune to dmg, no dmg shared ngl 
P1 bay is asking her cover to be broken
it is... her burst is the strongest in the game for pvp and the stats from dupes and recycling room boost the HP and how much your units can tank in CA that also boost cindy dmg
cover proc
but pls consider this
cover still half before cindy proc her burst
dont you get it, the cover do nothing with this
i dont have the record but i do this matchup before, my bay cover was broken
but only in this ca its happened like this
thoughts?
why someone use noah+ blanc?
also, does thelm healing from her burst trigger if you aren't dealing damage? e.g. during noah invincibility
helm b3? no
if you have treasure bay then there wont be such problems again
this bay is fav
there's 3 ppl telling you the water is hot... while you insist the water is cold... make of it what you want 
noah or biscuit S2 no, but you can against blanc burst
this bay have max fav

oo doesnt bay rebuild cover when bursting?
I don't understand at all
Why the cover do nothing with that?
becuz i play this game before 
2 effects, 1 for her HP pool and another for her cover (if) she still have a bit
i tested it
then is nero moran thelm cooked vs cindy noah?
should be rebuild cover if it is destroyed according to the desciption
should I use bay instead of nero? 
was that during b1 or b2?
ok bay cover was rebuilt, whats the logic now, her cover is broken again between her burst and cindy nuke?
oo cos ur bay already burst earlier already so it cant rebuild cover. it only happens during burst
yea ur burst is fast, so after ur burst the cover is broken then cindy nukes
why do you want to do a p1 bay though? just put rumani as p1 instead
then u put biscuit after bay
because it never happened before
ok... if cindy first hit go to cover, the cover will take like 90% of the other hits... shared dmg go 40% to bay and 60/15% to the party/ units
bay with biscuit S2 block the 40% bay take but you still get 15% for each units, bay block 2 hits from cindy and rumani 1-2 (depends if she trigger biscuit S2 fast enough) now... all depends in how strong cindy is because you get 7 hits from cindy on that video and she have a blanc b2
1 normal cindy hit is in range to onesthot any unit in CA, so all depends in the 15% dmg of those 7 hits
until this ca oc
too much chat to catch up on so... @hollow lagoon @cunning crown you guys carry the torch into the top 16 for the power of friendship crew.
@nimble swan and I will just have to accept defeat 
you probably didnt encounter such a team before in non CA, or the opponent just couldnt break bay's cover
and yes my biscuit has too much atk but more accurately my mihara doesn't have enough haha. I'll finish OL her hopefully soon
This is not granblue fantasy sir
he probably didn't test without cover, the interaction is the same since ¨bay banner(not during the treasure bug era)
biscuit is supporter and mihara is attacker.... just how much attack your biscuit has to surpass mihara?
it's pretty slow enemy team, he might never encountered scenario where he bursts > gets his cover destroyed > receives burst
now reconsider yesterday record
my SG team also lost, but to be fair I didn't finish investing them yet
i still cant get how in a 2rl matchup b3 nuke can faster than b2 enemy team
even with 24%cs on all unit
this time the bay's cover is till up there when cindy nuke hit
Sad 
My slow cindy lost 2x against noise noah cindy 
2RL vs 2RL? only with scarlet against bay or noah (cast time)
if same cs... probably feed for 1RL
this is the case im talking
you want 3 wins?
your team is naturally slow. 24% CS is not going to save you
you are against
cindy b3 is really slow, different units have different cast time
what is this
noah and bay are also in the slow part
Create and share a GODDESS OF VICTORY: NIKKE deck
you can use that to calculate your speed
this is mine
aye my teams had interesting matches haha
I checked 
just posting them to youtube (though you can ofc see them in the game also)
2 is enough
Although i haven’t seen all but the 2 slow cindy matches were interesting
my scar soda comp didn't do very well this CA but I think it's because more people are running vesti/2RL moran/noah etc
oh i put in the wrong ones, the person's team helm if has a faster CS can change that alot
since sniper can shoot faster
still her cindy b3 cant faster than bay b2
Yeah there are multiple team that’s a bad matchup for scar soda
and as you seen, this time bay cover is still up there
would be nice to have an alt version to run tbh but gotta run what you can
I lost because I had c6 blanc in p2 against low invest opponent 
according to your video cindy's nuke comes down as soon as bay is entering burst. not sure which 1 is actually happening first
if we get another defensive type unit I can see people moving away from scar 2RL

I lowkey hope one of the new units will do something for pvp
but nothing matter now, this umbra account is already given away
new moran tech doing well
congrat on your win
wish you the best sir
you are umbra?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQBVM4k603c
t1 - my SG comp just loses so probably an invest check - mine is lacking here the most out of all my teams
t2 - vesti comp strong performance all season
t3 - moran comp strong performance all season
t4 - actually wasn't that far off winning but my soda can't solo them all 
t5 - lost because as we mentioned my biscuit is like a lightning rod for the helm nuke, happened more than once as well lol. I'll need to add more atk % to mihara when I can.
so your friend is the person using the umbra account?
you can test, i don't know about R1 but looks fine if you make them burst faster than you
R2 need nero with 100% dmg reduction and higher atk than moran to tank the snipe
R3 i don't know, if scarlet hit before rumani b1 is a lose, but there is a range
even if you lose i want a video of that T3
well you beat me the previous time our accounts matched
Nah, it's a bug I believe
Moran Nero HelmT Mana is single attack they either attack P1 or P5/P4, Rapunzel just do healing
Just normal day where I'm getting bricked by Nikke bug and RNG
@tropic summit how would you make two strong teams?
for our particular match your bay cover did get broken because my cindy team is slow and only nukes a long time later after your bay's cover is broken that is for sure
depends on what you have, lacking noah already locks several comps
the closest you can go is bay stall, sacc variants with rosanna and vestiTU indom
My rosanna isnt invested
moran bay helmt biscuit flexDPS 2.5RL or 2RL
jackal vestiTU flex blanc flex 2.5RL or 2RL
CP pad
Behold- Na's strongest rosanna
She is mlb so thats cool
MLB and stuck on bond 10 :9
You know it
mmm nero will have bursted by the time thelm snipes, so we should be looking at dmg reduction like: 35% from moran + 10% from cube + 33% at least from her passive (from rapu+thelm heals)
you got unlucky on the slow cindy one I think @nimble swan biscuit b2 :9
By flex dps do you mean like drake and stuff?
unless you mean thelm sniping thelm/laplace? kinda pointless I feel, rapu would just revive her next round?
vestiTU, laplaceT, emilia, xmaiden
how do you feel about my odds? 
haven't looked i'm getting distracted in the office, link it here 
avoid SGs in SParena
#pvp-arena message this one
Jackal 
I have 17.62 charge speed combined in the moran bay team with vesti
- T3 scarlet team you're not in deficit right? if not you should be OK, although move cindy from p3, vestitu and emi gain increased burst gen
- T2 the nero moran could work, as they're bursting with helmT and won't have 2 cycles fast enough
- T1 copium
Would this be 2.5?@tropic summit
It shows 3rl with all 5 but idk how to add the charge speed to it
add the CS%
t1 I just don't know how to counter the ada indom other than indoming slightly later, and I think ada's first hit is slightly delayed due to her increase charge time?
went for redpi in p5 there to make him burst faster too
How much cs is the lightning bolt
assume 15% and you're generally fine
So this team will be strong, now I gotta make 2 more 
your CP pad team only works if it can actually gap them tho
else you're back to square
I don't think I can gap them
multiply it's total CP for 0.846 and see what the enemy needs to run against it
I had the same issue the match before. Blanc p1 would probably have solved it.
Or moran guy’s team would have done enough damage to blanc even in p2
244,341.72, which is easy for them, their defense is higher than that
But it is what it is, see you next time 
Oh wait you said cp pad team my b
yeah I like blanc p1 myself is what I ran, actually I like my order of the units also in general but .. need to fix mihara atk stat
Yeah your giga biscuit getting helm nuke is crazy
it's combo of her just having some atk and mihara not being fully OL yet
If im not using biscuit or Noah with Cindy do I even bother using her?
I can just place her on my pad team
My Mihara has 4x ELE (not a single line 3) but no ATK , I would need to reroll pieces from scratch
this was a fun fight to watch lol
my biscuit needs less atk ofc I need to roll her to CS more, but rocks :9
Yeah, I can’t believe I trashed 20 rocks on rumani for no single cs line. Other people get 2 black lines from this much 
I’m coping on the anni minesweeper game to get some rocks
I need to prio the new anni stuff a bit anyway
Yeah me too, this will be my first top 3% hopefully
I want to finish OL mihara, OL nayuta + liberalio, and if I can add some OL my w.asuka also
here waiting to get good data and you just tell him teams to get easy wins Xd
he self cooked those
i contributed 0 
ok, where is the video?
You will need a lot of rocks 
well can add basic ones for now, just gear + a rock each one
some may want a bit more ofc
if u go to shooting range does it show?
I don't think you can see the actual atk stat in the battles
How's this @tropic summit
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Crud, noticed rh is b2 and linked
get 2 teams on 2.5RL or 2RL, else those have too many counters
moran and noise can stay splitted
jackal team is WAY too slow
Why is the cindy team 3rl with three batteries
cos cindy is slow
I put jackal instead of blanc and its 3 rl








