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Not hating or anything but ngl
I see Echo yap more than help
Yap is help if it's nikke talk
Scarlet tier should drop a bit tbh
What are yโall thoughts on the Anni characters, you think theyโll be any good in PvP?
Uhuh
Therefore I forgot we had him as MA
Well, that's true for majority of MA. 
Ask @onyx scaffold on the scarlet comp win rate
i don't think kits are released yet, but yes for that burst II pilgrim (maybe)
Nobody dropping scarlet bud, she is her
Some clueless MA give bad advices. That is worse than yap
i will roll regardless 
@old sparrow aren't you?
Same
Rosy does help 
Idk man scarlet is used in literally every champs team
but @tropic summit is the real uncrowned hero
Scsrlet requires big investment to be top nowadays
But still yap more. 
in my 1.5 years of playing, honestly, i find most pilgrims useful for PvE or PVP
so it won't hurt to get them because of the long game
think Rail solves 90% of all pvp channel cases ๐
Cant you just put with Trina and leave her?
I know, it do be good, but consider the match up of scarlet into bay, scarlet into Noah, scarlet into slow Cindy, scarlet into Moran, anything not the soda version-which is basically gamble is gonna struggle with the above
Scarlet team can lose to
- bay 2RL
- Noah
- stall cindy biscuit
- shotgun rosanna
- murdered by vesti + laplace
- failing to kill Moran team if she can burst
Like
What can Scarlet beat without being lucky (soda stuns the right key)
Lucky soda rol?
Failing to kill Whale's Moran team*
Lv400 is lv400
Research level 400 isn't research level 100. 
Then adding core.
SP arena
- vestiTU blanc rh xmaiden jackal
- noah biscuit rapu rrh noir
- naga siren cindy centi rumani
Notes
- increase CP on your utilities (centi, noise, rumani, rapunzel, noah)
- increase CP on pvp core units (helm treasure, laplace treasure, vestiTU, cindy, blanc, noah)
Just have research lv400
Thing is
Scarlet always lost to them
The fact is that scarlet is still gatekeeping a lot of teams and units to win against her 
And I think that's good enough for sss tier
see this! 
Like sure, I guess Vesti is now the best B3 but if there's anyone at 2nd I think it's scarlet

if anyone didn't see it yet, porter robinson shelter is a good little music video thing
Porter Robinson & Madeon - Shelter (Official Video) (Short Film with A-1 Pictures & Crunchyroll)
Shelter tells the story of Rin, a 17-year-old girl who lives her life inside of a futuristic simulation completely by herself in infinite, beautiful loneliness. Each day, Rin awakens in virtual reality and uses a tablet which controls the simulation...
what have i done to deserve that? i'm a filthy pleb
you are the main hero ๐
(plus ultra)
Railtracer made me appreciate fish again
-ZANT 2026
shooting pose going hard
Nope.
Scarlet wins low investment and lose to high investment
Then people dont hyper invest in scarlet in the first place.
With 4 atk 8 crit on scar, rosanna will kill herself by shooting to scarlet before she can nuke scarlet.
With 18% CS on the 3RL, scarlet can nuke before laplace kill her...
To beat her, we need SSS tier units such as Noah/Helm/Vesti/Rosanna... anyway so yeah I would still keep her SSS tier for now
Zanta made me appreciate fish even more
-Zanta 2025
shooting pose making me hard
I guess what you guys want is smthng like
- B3
SSS: Vesti Helm
SS: Cindy Scarlet Emilia(?) xMaiden LapT
S: S.Anis SBS Ein
roughly?


51.7%
yes ๐
that is 
I'll still put scarlet sss in this, but the rest is what I alrdy planned to do
Hippo gaslit me to appreciate jellyfish tentacles
-Zant 2025 Oct 26
emilia maybe on top tier tbh - as a battery unrivalled
pretty sure tierlist may differ between CA and SParena tho
Yeah she's a ? For me I need to see some stuff for her
is why I think main focus should be SPA
there are units that are clearly superior in SParena while units that serve better winratio on CA
Yeah I've been trying to find middle grounds
wdym you need to see how Emilia works??????
everyone does SPA battles, not everyone plays in CA
No, I need to see her teams
Emilia with high dupe
Emilia with low dupe 
she has the most burst gen even if not main b3
You already have a way to do that without asking
I know
think she even beats out helmT if 25% CS
But everyone important plays CA 
we gonna C7 Emim next rerun, trust the process
I didn't ask 
I just said I was gonna check em out
everyone who's not c0ckblocked by whales on the top 4 positions of their bracket or gemmed out into hell*
nu uh
you were already taken by the fish before I appeared 
And a lot ppl who do CA just copy winners
that was me this season tbh ๐
No idea that CS is needed
wowie this is really helpful thanks for putting your time into this!
I am the gemmer 
Imagine Nero Moran Helm team without CS
Hey i have a VERY valid reason
We have a lot more tools now and most of the bugs are patched 
sow the emi from last season
Me join your bracket, murder kill other people, let me know when u hit and I switch to level 1 NIKKE 
No target skipping anymore, right?
what a true bro 
Rail I failed...
Just pass
What he said^
but it looked so close while i was watching, how is it still not working 
Oh shit that's retro
@swift mango btw please help. I pinged you for my next CA match
Soonโข
Play on pc easy win
You need to be synch 541 to even think about murdering in Rail bracket. 
581 to be safe
i don't even drop that sh*t HP to 50% pre QTE 
Not even 461
Anyways gn guys, I'll ask u guys stuff later when I am serious about changing PvP TL
Nah I need to intentionally reduce dps to 15 range for 7 bursts phase 1
Dang need 30more sync
tbh he can clear at 461 with that lineup he's damn stronk already 
Thatโs a cute GIF
This is a try with a failed slipper kill
This was my clear
zanta fish waifu
To 541 or 581?
so close 
I mean murdering your bracket
btw, because of the Tove conversation earlier, i found a good and spicy Tove fanart
541
elaborate. 
||and provide le link||
Zanta please sponsor me for a bunch of cd and stuff 
DM it is 
Ainโt even nuff for my self
lies you have that mansion ๐
and all the body parts to bake delicious treats with
let's se- sweet mother of god. 




wrong! -10 dkp
saved.
No i am doing the
no matter what
No my house smol, 4room 2 kitchen 2bathroom
Hello guys I'm trying to see if I can improve my arena teams
you spend too much on nikke in this case ๐
4 at a time sir
even I beat these tiny numbers
sbs blanc drake noir jackal
(cursed)
nvm i will let rail cook 
Rail you got this

๐ญ
Ban speedrun
saying that if you have public blabla link @hidden egret I can do a better summary for Rail to cook with
speedrun any%
What link?
blabla
Huh ๐
The ultimate nikke tool
First time hearing about that
it was in game announcements :S

ah yes, synchro 312 but with emilia... i've bad news for you... 
see like my helm build - all in blabla
you r right
it's a .. boy? ๐
it's a ๐งฑ
I'm a casual player ๐
brick-chan!
Wallahi chat am I that cooked?
I started right after RH banner ended
In November 2023 iirc

it's clear you spent too much time fighting freeza
๐ญ๐ญ
!
Ur sync 312? If you wanna enjoy PvP I think you should consider an Alt account
Whoops forgot to include helm ๐ she is at 15.57 doe
Chat I'm cooked beyond saving?
Ur current bracket prob have sync 600+
How tf did you reach that high
Wait until u see nishโs sync ๐
HelmTr's winrate is 53.1% 
Whoโs ur challenger 1?
show the cp ranking
Oh then u can actually make it
frank is pretty strong
Lucky easy bracket
Yk him?
I know his kind 
@hidden egret Ur not cooked as badly as we thought, ur like medium well done

Seems like she was under attacked by Nero s2 as well.
I was more surprised that my Scar Jack lose to your Blanc Mihara because your p5 Cindy got invincible even before my Scar burst, I thought I was more likely to take this one 
Anyways congrats for advance and gl 
I'm still confused how the hell I'm so behind
101? isn't that like the number of dalmations in that film
I did take few breaks but the longest was one month
I see that as a sign - you need to buy a dalmation puppy in real life
Taking a 2 week break basically cripples you ๐
๐
but the fix? || credit card, as always ||
And after 3 days of inactivity half of your friends are gone ๐ญ
We know ur a whale
Stop flexing
land whale sir
hippo not whale
I got nothing on zanta here, he started after me and +100 sync 
SP arena
- noah biscuit sbs laplaceT rrh
- emilia blanc rh trina jackal
- diesel draket liter anis noir
Notes
- increase CP on trina, biscuit, noise, jackal, emilia
- wishlist/build centi, rumani, scarlet, vestiTU
- get helm treasured, get your teams reviewed once she's ready (s1 lvl 10, at least treasure phase 2)
If i told that to a normal person they would go insane and question why I spent 1k on a f2p game but then I spend like nothing compared to the actual whales
When my competitors takes a Saturday off= they screwed up bad and I gloating in joy
you looking the wrong way if you wanna see true whale ๐
tell me how hard I will lose please. anyone
every whale says they're a dolphin... and every leviathan says they're just a whale... 
me f2p
Demn
Bro but I have spent next to nothing compared to actual whales
and every free 2 pay says they're f2p 
For me I wanna hit in the top 60 for 1600 gems, this is the top 50th guy atm
hime is f2p
this is the internet, i don't believe you, but i'll take your word for that 
Okay rail, thanks bro
you're too far behind - being serious for a min
Surely I can catch up right
he can try lower diamond/platinum
Bro i forgot who in omni it was, but he spends like 5k per month ๐ meanwhile Iโm at 1.2k in 2 years
you're 100 sync behind me but you've played for +1 year compared to me
no spending I've done accounts for that diff
๐งฑ
I have played for almost 2 years ๐๐
It was Nish right?
I've played for 1 year almost now
even as f2p I'd be ahead
min/maxing is not present
this game doesn't like players who take breaks, even a month break you're punished to hell
Just need RED to slip and Iโm goochi
Well I'm an active player now
give up somewhat on the pvp and enjoy the pve side
My Vesti team is still 19/19 win. I would try to be serious in CA again if I get Noah 4th CS. Somehow. 
Cuz I can't seem to quit nikke
you'll have more fun that way
Demn
well you don't have to quit, you can just stop being competitive 
behold, my shooting range main powers


That's me with my Elegg
my server ded, only 1 dude still playing and he is 130 levels behind ๐ญ
blonde power
ez victory then even as f2p ๐
Rail is Tove waifu?
Not that competitive tbf but need more gems then 800 ๐
I need my server to die so I can slack 
maybe rail made prydwen tier list ๐
Wallahi I'm done for
wallahi indeed
Railed
im not sure if i should get 621 or 641 when new chapters drop
That looked kind of like my old banner

sweaty no life low clearer f2p: 621
a bit less sweaty no life low crearer f2p: 641
i mean after clearing them
Why did read that has bridie
i never said i only like one blonde 
is the wallahi speaking
Real
no but inconsistency
You play bd2 asw?
I do
Oh honestly I forgot Nero even had a reflect ability I guess stall just never wins that matchup then I think. Yeah scar v cindy was down to the wire could have gone either way
shikikan dates 100+ nikke, i can date a few
๐ฟ

more than 100 maybe ๐ฎ
Replied to the wrong person 
very pleasing to the eye
lies (also true)
omg goku plays nikke 
it seems you have a good gamer chair
Drop some money on my acc fr so I can climb
I'm a huge fan
hold on.
they didn't mention new museum and nobody remembered ether
DEAD mode
Always did
nah is not wallahi sir

Rapi always taking Ls sadly
I see quite a big fan here
bunnies reign supreme
that's @umbral belfry
@umbral belfry 

Bro probably spends more in nikke than on himself
how did your CA go Hime-ojou-sama?

I was forced to bully a fellow pie
now I'm fighting a friend

I mean isn't spending on nikke also spending on yourself?

My self cheer might be ruining people
if you lose 
Real, you can stave for a week
@shell hazel throw him somethin'
My cooks are ????
Low-key this chat chill asf
we're in the same group 
not 20 minutes ago ๐ญ
I can't assist rn I'm betting for myself but people don't believe in me
What happened 20 mins ago 
i believe in the you that believes in you
I believe 
Hime you got this

very civilized debates regarding certain nikke's spots on the pvp tier list
(from Goku also)
Hime confirmed Goku fan
Goku feels wallahi to me
my goat
I might regret my copium xmica and mana

it's too late now, you've locked in
power level is over 9000
Our 
Waifu over lifu
Based
Who
Btw chat thoughts on the anni nikkes
Hey guys, any counter to the these?
I can scarlet nuke mihara or moran teams, but I tried 2RL cindy on Soda team and it consistently gets beaten so looking for alternatives
nayuta is mommy and i want her to squish me between her thighs and rub my face with her feet
pull first ask later
Yes pull Dorothy
Understandable
so we pull for nayuta confirmed
I can get both so that's that
if you like cyrene/elysia sure
I want the quality but I also want good working kit for my casto ๐
I personally am getting hyacine/tribbie/phainon
I have hya/tribbie though I want hya e1
thoughts on who wins
best feet EVER
hya e1 first then I see what I get
Demn sadly 60$
nah bro, $10 trust
I think min spend on gacha is like $30 if you're super lucky ๐
if not $10, then only another 10
Gambler's mentality is real
and so on...
don't think you can even get before then
remember 50/50 chance, you either get it or you don't
when did this show up? ๐ฎ
t1 investment diff
t2 rng
t3 top
t4 bot?
t5 rng but maybe top
in short : pray 


t5 depends if rumani gets immune before scar pops off. but that's also rng lmao
Bro has more of a gambler's mentality than me
Shi now I want this but I can't spare a single dollar ๐ญ๐ญ
i think this will be my new pfp moving forward...
is why you spend $50 not $1
kk ty
I'm broke that's that
single dollar = nah.
multiple dollars = fine.
Well at least I get to eat daily tho

accurate goku response 
do you think nayuta's feet sweat taste like nectar?
eating? overrated. get a job ๐
also accurate 
?
Nah
rp'ing Goku 100% accurately?
so you also agree

you're on the left
(deleted previous one as this one should be safer against their vesti+emilia possible sync shot)
this is why you can't afford to gacha your income ๐

super close but worked wonders
just take out a loan and u can get gacha
I'm a student, in a country where getting a side job is like not worth it at all
ein almost gone, will try 2nd variant once he gets mad
yeah i feared so, glad she still made it
Ur gacha and gambling addiction is too strong
Goku is from Japan surely
even a 40% interest rate on your loan is worth it for nayuta's feet
Thanks for the help 
Haram ๐
and if you can't afford the loan, take out another loan to pay off that loan
Ha..rem?
No
I mean clearly Goku is from Japan
goku is alien
Goku yes me no
bro is from planet vegeta
๐ฝ
I think he meant where he was originally created
@tropic summit that fight we last talked about needs rng in scar s2 way too much
No longer exists sooooo
if america gets obliterated from the globe and I have to move elsewhere, does that mean I am no longer from america? 
oof
maybe let's remake the approach then
Alright guys y'all send 10$ so I can afford 60$ Nayuta skin
ok what are your bank details
And GYYYAAATTTT demn that RH skin
My rh died befire b1 this time not enough resources for foolproof 2rl
i will also need your social sn

if each ppl here sponsor $1 to me, i can afford the skin, so please
i want to squish her belly
i imagine she already had temperance on?
Bro is from India confirmed
you should come and participate in the poop wars ๐
๐๐
when's the sp arena fix?
The real pvp is happening in India ๐
will this work?
he has level advantage over you, it's clearly bayover @shell hazel
Okay now that I think about it I'm at chapter 24 rn maybe that could be a reason too why I am behind ๐ฟ
just change o to i and we're accurate
Today I was thinking is it possible to go higher than lvl 400 and here ppl are lvl 600+
what was the lineup i gave you?
๐
๐๐๐๐
oh it's the right one actually
the objective there is to obliterate rapunzel and blanc pre 2.5RL B2
rosanna should target rapu and ada, which takes care of 1 of the 2 problems
vestiTU should be lethal on blanc
does she have a bit of atk%?
So that's how nikke got so high in the revenue chart
and is she 7/10/10?
yes Nish alone funds SU
I'm sending my vote
Bro probably can end world hunger with that money
https://enikk.app/player there plenty of those to boost SU revenue, and that only that website, shouldn't be all known players
@lunar pawn reset already passed
Hime I like you cuz u respect my goat Goku ๐ซก
........ I actually forgot 
did you record T3? need to see their CS%
Demn can't add hime as a friend ๐
as for T1 it looks like you got RH killed by rosanna
Also I got blind by the profile cuz I'm in a dark room and it's night rip my eyes ๐๐
LMFAO
@umbral belfry I like you because you're the best Hime ever 
dmed ya

and you always get me to lock in ๐

oh oops I'll check rn
wait hime is blue now?
I LEVELED UP

she has the best colour of them all now 
there might be hope with temperance... 
trade colours?
Also imma tank Rail again for providing me a team and stuff
no blue is my favorite color
๐ซก
this would be good with arcana tho 
Orange for me cuz it matches my outfit 

Kinda like the current one
Okay my gallery is beyond saving atp
let's see what happened in t1
just take the pvp casual tbh, you can still get some gems and work on stuff
so it wasn't lethal in time for rapunzel afterall
means you can take breaks when you want
if I stop playing for a month I'm no longer in top 3 prob
Yeah I'll slowly try to climb my way up
Help plz
if you already lost that - then less to lose
but I do think f2p of 2 years can be higher, frequent breaks or not doing all events/dailies maybe?
For me I wanna hit top 30-60 for the 1600 mainly, that's my goal
@lunar pawn your opponent is one lucky MF
I don't understand why I am so behind
get that vesti some more atk% and just kill that sh*t 
Maybe I'm not him 
or get rosanna some more atk%
vesti already got 38% atk sr15, don't think she can be any better
also, saving rocks for anni chars, so got my hands tied
doing all dailies/events etc
pushing campaign
you said you're on 24? am way past that
Always did even events mostly did dailies
look at that HP pre B1, ridicolous
I am lazy ๐ฟ ๐ฟ
buying all hard mode extra tries?
just add 1 more atk% to rosanna and you're set
I'd rather just spend cases and push to 621 instead 
gotta rush to 1150 before new chapters drop anyway
But yeah I'll try my best to get better I'm in an easy bracket maybe I can get back up in a year of proper playing, plus I'm also thinking of reading the story
The real thing is this ๐ฟ ๐ฟ ๐ฟ
i don't remember if you've emilia but you could replace centi with a better splasher (xmaiden/emilia/laplaceT) or move centi instead of laplace if you move laplace
that gives you enough dmg to be lethal
too many games :S
my xmaiden and emilia are pretty juiced up
that'd work then
This number is gonna increase ๐
just quit the shit ones
That's the issue
reminds me I gotta start CZN
good so far for me
just ensure vestiTU stays linked if you pick emilia/laplace/xmaiden
Probably gonna quit BA first cuz it ain't that generous
Ty
@tropic summit heres my upgraded kit
It's doing good
what teams are you running vs ledpipe btw?
chaos zero nightmare?
ye
Did you reroll?
what is it similar to, if there's anything?
I'm still doing fgo's grail front so hadn't had the time to try CZN yet
I have like 6-7 or more accounts on me
I did was pain in the arse
Slay the spire
yeah slay the spire basically - I'm f2p on it atm
For me I have limited time cuz exams soon
"atm" 
Tho I got my homies to calculate the pulls economy
if I do anything it's the daily gems, good return on cash vs pulls
I don't spend nikke spending on other games
oh it was this one
it's 20 pulls for ยฃ5 per month or so
Pounds? Ur British?
yes
Demn
from the land of the dead queen
legend though she may be, I think she's still alive somewhere
Still gonna colonize?
Real
we gave a lot of that stuff back over the years ๐
Fam give us our stuff back in the sub continent
it's coming trust ๐
We broke now ๐
That's something else 
we're just as broke dw
Demn the Royals eating their own wild
Not eating literally
But u get it
Anyways imma sleep cuz tomorrow I have to take classes ๐ญ
It's probably 9 there right?
doable?
Huh
Wait why
daylight savings
you need:
- T1 734k
- T2 747k
- T3 692k
try the below if you meet the CP requirements
can you show your box? your team is a bit weird
HUH 
Had to hit rookie 1 hr earlier 
@tropic summit
google it goku-chan, we change time twice a year
reset time still the same for me
no daylight savings baby
without filters and units selected, also show all 3 matchups
it's 8pm for me now
I remember my American friend tell me that didn't know it happened in Brittian asw
it was 9pm
ah mb
I can never understand times zones deadass
@gritty ridge you didn't solve your students teams yet? ๐ฎ
Anyways good night cutie

T2 only 729k sadly
Also in T3 wont jackal die easily?
who is linked when running SBS drake and quency together?
actually screw that gonna use alice
alice 
im sorry but i dont know what linking is 
im entirely blind when it comes to pvp
time to learn then
either way post these teams to check CP
jackal links with two highest atk units besides herself for damage share
this is calc after OL and the best way to check is to run an in-game mock battle with the same team and pause/see who gets it
any AI boss/same team mock battle - see who gets jumpin jackal buff
change teams then
crown biscuit siren cindy rumani
jackal rrh blanc helmt centi (blanc with temperance)
run those if you're in CP range and record
Allright,imma going for it
ok this is gonna give me an headache, run this team in campaign/union shooting range
SBS ada drake vestiTU jackal and tell me who links
so many attackers 
his utilities are all bad CP
anyone could link here lol
does Emilia's 21% CS minimum include her skill 1? I just rerolled her stats to hit 19.98% CS without cube or skill 1.
for nikke deck? 25% is 25%
this means 23% + adjutant for 2% more
what's nikke deck?
@lethal karma CP wise this probably fixes your teams
Create and share a GODDESS OF VICTORY: NIKKE deck
Blanc died at the end so slightly:(@tropic summit
then you need to run her p4
jackal rrh helmt blanc centi
ensure you're not on deficit
how do i know which jackal is linked to in game? currently doing it in union shooting range
enter pause menu, click on the unit you checking, see if unit has "jumping jackal" buff
pause the game, check the buffs on units
there is an icon also for it
assuming crazy jackal don't count, only ada, jackal herself and naga does
it's a useful thing to check when you switch who jackal runs with
you can click into each unit to see it
ok, now assemble these teams and post their CP again
it's "jumpin jackal flash" or similar
think it's shield icon so jackal ada and naga makes sense
sbs and tvesti didnt receive it
yeah good to know how to check it though as it can make or break your teams
and becuase it only works it out after OL this is the best way to do it
pretty much the same
just sneak on by
no pilgrim attacker helm yet ultra is holding out on me
unless you've meant this instead, the hyperlink went to the previous one
The same teams on my def, tho i probably should change my teams soon but i haven't had the time to level up other units and test teams
moran volume vestiTU anis alice
jackal rumani anchorIM sbs drake
@lethal karma
remove anis and put trina instead
post the screenshot of the 2 matchups
My rookie bracket using ca comps
even for me 600k is 
for you is basically children playing in sandpit
ok you're in range you can run it
the one with trina yes?
can we get a recording @lethal karma ?
ye if it gives you more CP trina and anis are interchangable, they serve same purpose, clip RL burst gen batteries
Idk man I get by
I kind of want to see volume in pvp 
does nothing
flex b1 with high cp
I wanna see it anyway!
okk
Copium hell knight Ingrid?
you gonna see her dead
Can someone helping me with the order to place this team in?
@tropic summit ๐ฆ
scratch that team it's horrible
but it may be the most glorious death of all 
Cant do SSS team right off rip
Making do with what i've got, im consistently c1-3, new player
give up and invest in your pvp units, it's an headache to deal with their current teams because you're fighting with your hands held
you can try helmT their vestiTU and biscuit lock team against their SGs
Allright:( ill try w another opponent
just finish upgrading stuff bro ๐
last time we had like biscuit with no cp
if you finished investing core stuff you'd have an easier time for sure
i won @shell hazel but vid size is huge, need to crop it by a bit
Is there a more optimal way of ordering this team, I want noise b1 to go before liter, but I dont want to place Noise in slot 3, Should I do Noise-Anis-Liter-SBS-rrh instead?
if you can't assemble a proper team run a CP pad instead, w/e comes out of that team is a slow mid-tier nuke without stalling or indom or actual threat
I try,im building vesti,mmast and other units ols at the same time as f2p
upload to youtube (shortcut/easy)
noise needs to be p1 or p5, anis needs to be p4, w/e you wanna burst with needs to be p2 or p3
I don't have the resources necessary to CP pad 3 teams, I have 1 CP pad, 1 decent team, and then this as my 3rd
yeah I know just some core stuff lacks, so the rest kind of follows
noise liter rrh anis sbs would be the most "reasonable"
bay can only carry you so far
once vestiTU is fully invested you can have a stronger indom team than RRH
and won't be punishing on your CP as much
I was under the impression you want someone tanky next to noise due to splash damage, liter is fine next to her? also is there any realistic scenario where ill even burst a second time? I can remove Liter for someone else if that's the case
prio the units with the worst cp as a general rule
i'll be honest with you, THAT is not a good team to run with noise
Vesti is 120k+ rn,one ol missing
you're better off scratch it off and making a CP pad instead
it's slow, lacks lethal, lacks stalling to let SBS/RRH even start doing DPS
I understand its a bad team
I'm trying to make do with what I have, I can't CP pad a second team, I don't have the resources for that, in the mean time while I get resources and pull units I need to make do with what I have
post your box, ordered by strength, no units selected
don't be discouraged can always improve the teams
can see together what you can actually run or not
maybe you're just missing out on something
pvp is mostly an investment check if you exclude fighting gigantic whales
with big credit limits ๐
well investment + some know how
ok let's see 
my bracket atm only has 2 whales but they just click auto on teams so I can still win
still in baby brackets there
I just time my tickets well and stay in challenger 1-3
a lot can change even whales can screw up decisions
yeah on attack I have 1 decent shotgun team that I cp pad enough so its not at deficit, and then CP pad one team to win a 2nd round
how should i go with this second one
I'm missing dolls, but im going to get HelmT as priority, and then DrakeT aswell
gotta pick your hill to die on
drake T not pvp meta tbh, helmT is
drakeT can work in a pinch but I would not run her in SPA usually
Yeah its mostly bc event gives treasure mats, and itd mostly be for a CP pad, HelmT is the one im actually prio
I'm working on raid museum so ill be able to get another treasure from season 1-2 soon ish
im hella new though
she's fine as an attack option but core pvp RL units are pref
Yeah I don't have many, I barely have each team able to reach burst atm
LapT is more useful if you can
I have a lot of PvP units in my wishlist but I havent been pulling as im saving for anni
she has more burst gen than Drake T and less feed
Yeah I was planning on ExiaT > LaplaceT
SParena:
- T1 noise naga cindy anis pepper
- T2 drake noir anchorIM siren bsoda
- T3 crown rrh sbs liter mmast
if T1 is low on CP, consider tanking speed for CP by subbing pepper with liter and add a filler B1 instead of liter in T3
Notes:
wishlist jackal, rumani, centi, trina, biscuit, noah, scarlet (you're lacking on all if not every clip RL battery)
treasure helm asap
exia skip for now
think she is elec raid > *
we just had one, next looking wind weak raid tbh
Will team 3 reach burst?
it's CP pad
is cp pad team
Makes sense
I think I have all of those except Centi & Scarlet wishlisted, but I can put Scarlet on
I love dair cp deficit fighting teams ๐
dunno he's trying to starve you on T3 with midhara instead... but she's probably not lethal even if you gotta wait 10s out
give it a shot
actully am I still in cp range for t2
you're not, 1.702k needed
i still got a second try (i won first one btw)
I super appreciate this btw, its been hard to find advice on my F tier pvp box
you welcome
take ur time and progress in pve first anyway, pvp can wait once you're comfortable there
don't fight this one, you're gapped on 2 teams and the other is a biscuit locked team
@leaden canyon I think you've learnt a lot lately on the deficit fighting front and I want to see more 
Yeah Im mostly focusing on PvE while trying to stay atleast in top 6 for SPA, but so far this season I've hovered around #2 due to CP gap with most people
damn ight then, wbout this one?
pve > pvp for me for campaign stuff
this one looks like you're in range
outpost level matters a lot long term
So we have run into a problem with t2, I cant take centi out for something else because it will take link from vesti
ye teams can stay as is you should be fine
same, been stuck on ch25 for a while now so most of my gameplay is dailies and logging in to see if I need to spend one of my SPA stam ๐
change T1 into diesel naga lud anis ada to give it a chance
xmaiden or even sr anis can work as a flex but depends on cp deficit
if you deepen an existing one it can spell bad news
but if you check speed and xmaiden does't change much she can help there
its cp issues with the ones I can throw in there
they have more attack
ultimately you just want to secure 2/3 wins anyway
very cool, thanks yall
3rd team should be hope/cope
Is 3L burst for a team good? whats like the minimum thats acceptable?
also im assuming that the first thing I change on those teams is swapping M-Mast for HelmT once I have it
it depends on what opponent runs

it's good to watch/get an understanding yourself of what happens for the important matches
helps to learn what works and why
best way to learn imo is to put the opponent decks into https://nikke-deck.web.app/
Create and share a GODDESS OF VICTORY: NIKKE deck
and then put yours there also to see what speeds things are
who are the b1/b2/b3 in each team etc
and pay closer attention to unit classes like who biscuit may protect if they're defenders or who runs noah/jackal etc
yes please
p1 position is the most common target so knowing they're tanky or supported by a skill like biscuit immunity can help a lot
K is like the ultimate wingman
this works right?
I'll b3 before he can even b1
this will let me use noah biscuit for t2
Guesss I can still do this

as long as b3 goes off before his b2
Learning this is the only reason I can beat some of the whales in my bracket that don't know it ๐ญ
In a newbie bracket of course since I'm new but everyones one and only b1 is in p1 which is very helpful ๐
the strongest is a 2RL indom or anti nuke
3RL is the passable threshold, 2.5RL with nuke resistance is a good middleground
Oh I thought higher number RL was better lmao
anything slower than 3RL will generally not work well, because it's punishable by a lot of things
2RL is faster than 2.5RL, 2.5RL is faster than 3RL... and so on
So is that different from RL tier on units? I was under the impression Pepper was a good burst gen but it says shes tier 4RL
no, 2RL is the threshold at which your team bursts
each unit has got their own % they contribute toward burst gen
pepper being a clip SG is a decent burst gen, but feeds
Or I can do this
and use helm on t2
t2 is out of cp deficit with this
@tropic summit what do you think
can you post the matchups how they'd look like? i wasn't following for a while
His vesti and emilia have sync shots but it shouldn't matter with two of them right?
what is his other team
a problem because cp deficit
yeah u would need 1.85m for that
hmmm T2 might've a chance as you've biscuit to stall better than them and you'll also get 2 rounds of RH B1 at least...
T3 though is a big gamble, i don't see trina surviving their vestiTU 
scarlet blanc helm redhood jackal not enough cp?
even when its bursting this fast?
zzz
nope, I have to skip it, I cant deal with that team with anything
playing hand tied and forced into his 2 stronger meta teams
the true beauty of this sh*tty p2p game 
be glad his other teams don't have SR15 doll and maxed units at least 
yet
Sec
hopefully ye
My brain can only work with nikke-deck
Actually this should work for t2 because hood wont die in p5
Ok so.
Both of his teams are slow 2.5RL.
You should win both with either scarlet nuke or helm nuke or cindy nuke, but avoid running Cindy against blanc.
Let's work with scarlet nuke and helm nuke.
Scarlet cuts her hand so u shouldn't use her against vesti + emi/laplace.
Use her to fight Round 2.
Use Helm nuke for round 3.
Round 2
Siren Jackal Trina Centi Scarlet
Laplace's element dmg wont work against you
Round 3
Noah Biscuit Helm Rosanna Laplace (give Laplace quantum for 2RL)
Whoever Rosann+Helm nuke should kill 3 anyway
I did it already and won, I'll send the recording
I'm having a really hard time against this team setup. By time the 5 seconds of Centi shield is up, the enemy has taken out 2 or 3 of my nikkes and then their nuke burst happens which wipes the rest of my team. What counters this?
do you own noah?
yeah that can work
as long as its 2.5
which I think it is but i can check
oh its 2RL so its more than fine if that helm is treasured
she is! I'm gonna try that out and let you know how it goes
btw
You can do noah biscuit helm hood rumani
I just realised you have rumani p2
she will b1 instead of hood
and rumani in p5 is safer on attackes with biscuit on team
ah so for PVP better to burst with treasure helm first?
I mean that team dies to any varitation of what you are running, I'm just tweaking in to be better in general
No reason not to just run a better version
Could also just do noah biscuit vesti hood helm
his team cant kill your p5
now if he had sg units in p4 and p5 you would need to run a defender in p5
this team is also my special battle team so if it can be more generally good I'd like to go with that
generally noah biscuit hood helm flex can kill most teams
Vesti tactically is good with this version
I do have tactical vesti but haven't put anything into her yet. Just one copy. I'll keep that in mind for who to level next though
Yeah vesti tactical is the best b3 pvp unit currently for killing teams
If you have the cs you can also just do this
helm would need at least 11% cs
this version is good against anything that cant block cindy or you are not dealing with a 2Rl blanc indom team
I'll have to re-roll some stats but I think I can hit 11%
having the extra cs on helm is really nice for hitting 2.5RL on teams
But yeah noah biscuit hood helm rumani should work
In this fight bursting with hood works out because he cant stop her
Generally though you can stall out a lot of teams with helm bursting
thanks for the tips. I'll work towards building that CS so I can use that setup
yeah I wiped him. thanks!
I was afk gomen. Looks like you solved though your biscuit is in severe danger in that video ๐
Mihara performing surprisingly well. New units are all SMGs so likely won't be seeing any PvP meta change any time soon from the new units.
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against vesti
Ein/Blanc/Red Hood/HelmT/Jackal
ein and rh should be linked or ein helm so helm could go P3, making sure ein gets the indom
as for slow cindy....

my ein would not be linked there

Hey I'm giving that absolute team a try in next season of CA, is having noise there the right call? Or should it be Noah?
Putting noah makes it a 2.5rl team but it makes building a team 5 harder for me
And idk if it matters I think the idea here is to just kill p1-p3 before burst happens anyways
@shell hazel
That is how you do ada
Man, I love seeing people claim their ideas are the correct in 3 PVP channels 
At least in secret group they cook some weird comps 
thats nice, lets you use noah some where else
@tropic summit is this usable
as long as she oneshot the target you want, yes 
Idk if she will, I wanna use her on defense
Mihara comp is very interesting and exceed my expectations. The concept feels wrong but the test results speak for themselves
Yeah, 6 rl mihara lul
I wanna run this in spa
very well invested unbuffed vesti can wipe 
From what ive seen in my bracket, yes
Hoshimachi Hime 
Devolve
never

Hime gonna be red before me

Im not gonna get red anytime soon
Sir ฦฐhat do you think about this case
@leaden marten check SPA...did you lose your rank 4 to ledpipe, or were you rank 3?
Unfortunately this bay team behaved weird in this ca, this is my cook so i test 100 times in rk and spa before, and in this ca i think there maybe are a bug?
I don't know tbh, Bay+ was buggy af before, wouldn't be surprised if there's still tons of bugs with her
how good is ada in SPA? I might have been sleeping on her
Good evening, please assemble a team for the arena
I gotta yap more 
At that stage, you want to focus on PvE first and just use highest CP for PvP

Ok :3
No u should yap less
spend more time touch grass not online
Yes
i swear your name wasn't blue before 
congrats on the upgrade!!
Seems like they didnt fix bay logic on ca (she failed to protect when her treasure was released)
thank you! 

Let Use this comp in spa and rk
Your focus is breaking 160 wall first, you'll need 5x 3 star Nikkes for that
After that, you can start to make some PvP comp for additional gems income
hime yappathon 2026?! 
With 11 cs to avoid siren stun, this comp is so annoying to deal with. My win def spa streak is endless since this comp
And the bug is ca only ? At least atm
And you can always burst with helm instead, more stall but dmg ouput is still decent
