pvp-arena

[hollow lagoon]

Is powa

Tbh so is pve

Like I have people In my union

Sync 550 H32-29

Bro it’s prob like, blue cp range

[quick lake]

oh yes, I have a player like that

[hollow lagoon]

Only 1?

[quick lake]

only 1

[hollow lagoon]

Sync 390

5-20?

I was doing overclock 25 in the 200s

Meanwhile the 199 in my union is pulling this off

[leaden canyon]

why so far behind in normal wtf

[hollow lagoon]

Idk but I posted, hard 14 clear minimum by anni

We have 3guys on sync 300+ that’s hard chapter 5

One left

[leaden canyon]

maybe they forgot about hardmode lol

[hollow lagoon]

One I yetted for Low raid performance and got replaced for a friend in Taiwan sync 453

This 390 I’m keeping to see if he wise up

[tropic summit]

unleash the whip

[hollow lagoon]

[leaden marten]

Probably an hour or two after reset

And probably just one atk

I can't defend against him and neither can he defend against me

[slate falcon]

Any tips on how to beat this team?

[lunar pawn]

Kudos

[haughty mortar]

Does this win?

I know this does

[tropic summit]

ye top wins too, you're faster than them

[haughty mortar]

OK the lineup changed

[tropic summit]

you need a team with at least 391k else you're in deficit

that team is actually 2RL with high threat, you're best leave it alone if combined with your CP requirement lacking

[haughty mortar]

Missed my chance. I have asked about this before but their lineup seemed to have changed

[tropic summit]

against enemy scarlet trina rh centi jackal use your:

noah biscuit helmt sbs rumani

against enemy rapunzel blanc sbs noise alice use your:

scarlet trina rh centi jackal

[leaden canyon]

so against the cp gap guy it didn't work

[tropic summit]

jesus he's still lethal on cindy with B3

well that's a good hint though

[haughty mortar]

Do I need to change nikke positions or is team position good enough?

[tropic summit]

we can lock them on p1 as long as we stop their B3

[tropic summit]

change positions as i provided

[tropic summit]

we saccing lappy

noah laplaceT biscuit rosanna helmT

noah emi biscuit rosanna helmT

they've sync shot btw

your opponent is a good ol' pvp mfker

oh even better, let's get emi instead of lappy

should deal more dmg on link due to hitting fire code p2

[leaden canyon]

k

[tropic summit]

as long as you kill vesti and emi on 2RL rosanna, you can kite lappy on p1

[slate falcon]

looks like im deficit then

[tropic summit]

ye you're better leave that opponent alone until you're closer in CP

[haughty mortar]

SWEET VICTORY!

[haughty mortar]

So the Scarlet lineup is a staple?

What is it good against?

[leaden canyon]

uhhhhhhhhh wtf

[tropic summit]

because we're running it when they're countering opponent team

[tropic summit]

anything that is not noah or bay or indom on 2RL

[tropic summit]

what happened

[leaden canyon]

t2 lost now

[tropic summit]

noah stunned and you didn't wipe? maybe your first run was a crit

[lunar pawn]

what teams can I use here?

[covert lintel]

Btw is there a skill reset announcement yesterday?

[tropic summit]

yeah wasn't lethal on cindy, they bursted

[leaden canyon]

but it was lethal before

[tropic summit]

critted...

[haughty mortar]

🤔 So I shouldn't assume that lineup can stay as is? I know you guys gave me this. The problem is that Karnage has an attempt left and can overtake me. What defense team can I use to attempt to keep the positioin after winning?

[tropic summit]

ok so T3 i think is consistent, problem is T2

might wanna switch into indom approach for T2

and you can afford going 2.5RL

[leaden canyon]

so what scarlet blanc hood trina jackal?

[tropic summit]

indom scarlet would finish them off

not a bad idea

if anything biscuit pops s2 on noah and cindy

which means you've 5s to kill them while they're on low HP

although perhaps the safer choice would be to nuke with vestiTU on indom

has better DPS during indom

and you're 2.5RL

[tropic summit]

if opponent doesn't change their lineup you can re-use sure

[haughty mortar]

Sure but is there a defense lineup I can park for when they wanna attack me?

[eager mountain]

does biscuit invincible stops siren stun? too old to remember things

[tropic summit]

is that rapunzel linked as far as you know?

[tropic summit]

nope still get stunned

[eager mountain]

yeah that

[tropic summit]

what's your current def?

[haughty mortar]

LAWLZ the dood I just beat attacked me. So this is a 3 man circle jerk

Me Krose and Karnage

I have just upgraded Moran a little bit. Can she come into play?

[tropic summit]

amazing, we finally gottem

you may now rest in peace

[quartz rover]

I hate how you can't see the attack team and they just have unlimited tries if they just gem

[tropic summit]

ok those teams look a bit too easy, post your box and let's remake them

[leaden canyon]

if sync shots are never getting patched I may as well join the abuse

[haughty mortar]

Promote this man to PVP GOD!

[slate falcon]

@tropic summit is this how I tally how much hours I’ve been top 4-5 ?

[tropic summit]

try these next

SP arena

• scarlet ein trina siren drakeT
• jackal sbs laplaceT blanc trina
• moran noah helmt rh centi

cubes

scarlet temperance
ein any
trina any
siren any
drakeT any

jackal quantum
sbs any
laplaceT quantum
blanc temperance/vigor
trina quantum

moran temperance/vigor
noah temperance
helmt any
rh any
centi any

[tropic summit]

yeah it tells you how long you've been holding a position, e.g. you were ch5 for 2 hours 43 mins

[tropic summit]

they're tedious to build, OL is already cancer as is

[haughty mortar]

Much appreciated! Will update asap

[slate falcon]

Ty i was just claiming them until someone told me that it was feature to track how long I’ve been holding a position

[haughty mortar]

Also, why Ein and not SAnis? Was told she is better to use.

[lunar pawn]

good question

[leaden canyon]

Based off this who needs what to reach sync shots

[haughty mortar]

Also, can't have Trina in 2 places

[tropic summit]

that team logic wants to punish with a buffed nuke

[tropic summit]

change centi in T3 with rumani

centi/trina/rumani can be interchangable, clip RL

although scarlet definitely wants trina

[tropic summit]

yup looks good

[haughty mortar]

What beats this?

[tropic summit]

laplace has 4OL gear and more HP than SBS right?

[haughty mortar]

Temperance = Tempering?

[tropic summit]

depends

T1 loses to mirror scar-jackal, anti nuke, indom
T2 wins as long as opponent doesn't stall you with invulnerable taunter p1 defender
T3 is your strongest team, having anti nuke and stalling, lifesteal, anti attacker pressure, double burst cycle

[tropic summit]

ye

[tropic summit]

ask the expert @swift mango

iirc they need to have same CS% timing with vestiTU

[leaden canyon]

@swift mango I'm joining the dark side of sync shots

[haughty mortar]

4 nikke want tempering but only have 2 slots. Who gets prio?

[quick lake]

p1 unit

[slate falcon]

Could someone tally this for me pls and tell me if im still in the clear for position 4-6 (I don’t understand how to tally this way and wasn’t keeping count) @quick lake

[haughty mortar]

Is the rule of highest level cube still true for PVP?

[slate falcon]

I think it depends on on the character you’re using, but I see most people going for tempering

[tropic summit]

check CP if it's OK run them (highly suggest recording, need to see CS% on rapunzel team)

[quick lake]

Cant math, but eyeballing it, seems like u’ll make it

[quick lake]

Cubes dont matter too much. Either highest cube or tempering

[haughty mortar]

I mean..........my non-resil cubes aren't that high. ESPECIALLY not tempering, having only 2 slots. I put resil on anyone that had an ANY status. coz that cube is lvl 12 vs next best bast lvl 8.

[quick lake]

no worries about cube

[tropic summit]

in your specific case

scarlet and noah
blanc and moran can run vigor

[slate falcon]

@tropic summit thoughts?

[haughty mortar]

Made the change ty!

[tropic summit]

@quick lake has a script iirc that can calculate based on days elapsed and your current score in which position you're likely to place, if he still has it around and if he has time

start providing your current score

[quick lake]

I dont maintain it anymore. Idk when SPA starts

[slate falcon]

my last hope guess I’ll just have to start keeping track from now on and pray🙂‍↔️

[gritty ridge]

I need lvl 15 adjutant so I too can be a cs gamer

[slate falcon]

Wait, can you possibly send me that script?

[tropic summit]

i've a pro tip:

• turn on nikke
• click on the following

your life will improve and your spending will decrease, 10/10 solid advise

[gritty ridge]

Lmao

[quick lake]

Its not really a script

[quick lake]

General formula is:
1 + (600 - (Your total points/total hours elapsed since SPA started)) / 5 = worse rank u can end up

[tropic summit]

@covert lintel you don't think so?

guess a filthy pve main whel wouldn't agree

ok don't be sad you gonna make me feel guilty

[covert lintel]

I'm not pve main

[slate falcon]

ill see what i can do base off this

[tropic summit]

fellow shooting range main?

[covert lintel]

And i'm not pvp main

[quick lake]

Same. We just casuals

[tropic summit]

[slate falcon]

Solo Raid main possibly?

[tropic summit]

he's sweaty tryhardor SR

[quick lake]

He just swipe syncs for fun

[tropic summit]

💳

[covert lintel]

No

I'm wipeout main

Most of my gem goes to wipeout

[crystal flicker]

He's wipeout 10times/day

I'm surprised Stall can withstand VesTac Jackal Blanc

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-disgust-disgusted-surprise-surprised-gif-1315379981814621904

[slate falcon]

you credit card abuser

https://tenor.com/view/kyoukai-no-kanata-nase-hiromi-ew-disgust-gif-11102640

[valid inlet]

Blanc Mihara should win stall, and attacking Sg will lose to Scar I think, yeah there are good SG teams that can win Scar, but I think mine can't unless miracle

[haughty mortar]

OK I took back 4th

[boreal forge]

Any good PvP team I can make?

[quick lake]

Auto team is fine. Lacking all pvp units, can slowly wishlist them

[boreal forge]

oh, okay

[wild hemlock]

Oh I was actually thinking the opposite on the stall matchup lol. Cause I burst with Quiry so Mihara won't die which means Mihara will burst not Cindy so I don't think my team will die and then I win once Helm bursts.
SG matchups I never know unless it's vs biscuit but otherwise I have no clue who wins ever

[quick lake]

Can refer to Prydwen’s pvp tier list

[keen vapor]

Imagine being able to go up

[haughty mortar]

🫂

[umbral crown]

[pastel narwhal]

[cunning crown]

[covert lintel]

Should i try mihara crit next?

[keen vapor]

Don't crit
Miranda already will do that

[covert lintel]

Oh her dot is guaranteed crit?

[keen vapor]

Yes, with Miranda if you stop shooting

Not really doable on PVP

But building crit on miha doesn't makes sense either

The moment she dies she gets X amount of enemies go to 20 stacks

[umbral crown]

[covert lintel]

I'm thinking of bringing mast just like @umbral crown

[pastel narwhal]

[covert lintel]

So no cindy

[umbral crown]

Owo

Rakuen to make his scar anti siren and anti nero teams

[covert lintel]

Mihara x mast, not scar

[umbral crown]

No nero team can live when your well built scar team has mast

[covert lintel]

So the team won't burst, just stall and crit dot

[umbral crown]

S13

Mast linked there

[pastel narwhal]

[umbral crown]

[valid inlet]

Finally I see ppl using mast w scar in NA.... was thinking about building her

[quick lake]

the new meta is here

[umbral crown]

Global

[valid inlet]

Hmmm I don't think Mihara can still survive that long tho, I never see a match between Blanc Mihara and Quiry Stall tbh. We will see

[umbral crown]

Stall loses but with quiry the chances of cindy bursting is low

[valid inlet]

Maybe after the anni units are built

[umbral crown]

Quiry might force mihara to burst and thats kinda a loss

[quick lake]

Indeed. I haven’t built vestiTU yet

[umbral crown]

Since the normal.stall we copium helm gonna 1 shot mihara

But what if it does nkt happen, if the slow cindy lives enough it will just burst cindy with biscuit if anything but against nero team thats not gonna do much since 2nd rotaion gonna be helm lifesteal

[wild hemlock]

I have no way to hit Mihara except Quiry and Rapunzel so she won't die which means mihara will burst and the stall will out sustain

[umbral crown]

But i think thats why some people put her P5 to make sure cindy burst and if defending helm gonna shot at her at p5

[valid inlet]

Ok I get the idea, maybe I will lose this one, if that's the case @wild hemlock you have a good chance to advance

[wild hemlock]

Tbf I thought I would win last time and I lost so

[umbral crown]

Just auto and hope.for the best

[slate falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/zani-zani-wuwa-wuwa-wuthering-waves-head-pat-gif-18295419547298065312

[wild hemlock]

I have been debating on doing something like that yeah. I've seen my mihara team lose fights cause mihara just isn't dying in p2

[umbral crown]

I had that today

Look

[raven plover]

dot can crit if mihara dies? :wutdahel:

[wild hemlock]

[keen vapor]

@hoary maple can you hit Herroo please?

[umbral crown]

Thats my reaction this morning

[mint root]

Yo did i cook making this team?

[keen vapor]

Moran is sitting there doing nothing

[gritty ridge]

Are people coming in here to attack my teams

[keen vapor]

At least it took him 2 tries

I can't even do that with XP

Wait I just realized

On my last match with Noah P1 Noise P5
Noise was the one getting taunt priority
1% CS diff this thing is the biggest inconsistency I've found on my teams

[umbral crown]

never happened to me

[pastel narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/may-i-ask-for-one-final-thing-scarlet-gif-2620710998416639542

[umbral crown]

there is a boi here who tried attacking me few days ago but he never answer my ping

i do not bite

[pastel narwhal]

but you punch

[umbral crown]

[pastel narwhal]

i have no forg sips here

[covert lintel]

he's shy and wants to stay hiding

[umbral crown]

but i wanted to know how my teams work since on my jackal vesti blanc team vesti is not getting the indom

or maybe they use rosanna, make my vesti low hp to force her get the indom

[keen vapor]

Where do you have them

[pastel narwhal]

from my prison, I'm on parole

[keen vapor]

[warped scaffold]

Possible or nah

[ocean oyster]

Swap jackal and Scarlet… Youre in deficit though so not sure if you win, otherwise it would be free

[gritty ridge]

when only 1 b1 then scar doesnt have to be p1

[keen vapor]

I think it's trying to block 2 SGs dmg

[ocean oyster]

I See, But would scarlets Nuke be enough like that in this deficit? I‘m not so familiar with deficit penealties in actual matches

[pastel narwhal]

anis and naga can just be swapped out with another unit with more cp :forgsip:

[ocean oyster]

Scarlet without invuln from trina is also kinda sketch i think but idk

[hollow lagoon]

What madness possessed him to think that he can take on me again

[lunar pawn]

rosanna to 1 shot ada? won't rapunzel just revive her?

[umbral crown]

he needs to use the free hits for experience

[lunar pawn]

mine's not really built as best as she could be either

[hollow lagoon]

should use it on that Korean that’s still within his cp range

[umbral crown]

but its better hitting a CA winner

thats why people sometimes hit me instead C3 , just because my level is the lowest in top 5

[pure moss]

can someone remind me who atk and who def again?

I really don't know who winning

[gritty ridge]

I win

Every time

[pure moss]

help me predict who's losing

bottom right defend or attack?

[gritty ridge]

Bottom is defend

[pure moss]

you were confused too I see

[gritty ridge]

No I just typed wrong

Do you know if noise is linked?

[pure moss]

for my team?

[gritty ridge]

Brother idk who is who

[pure moss]

let me adjust it

I'm defending

[gritty ridge]

Why is there cubes/cs on both sides

Do you know their invests?

[pure moss]

I just assume the worst case

I'm in kind of big league so always best investments

[gritty ridge]

Looks like top, bottom, idk, bottom, top

I hate sg mirror

[pure moss]

50/50

fr I bet I'm losing then

[gritty ridge]

Just vote yourself and call it a day

[pure moss]

need that silver frame

[gritty ridge]

Ah ok

[pure moss]

been so long

[gritty ridge]

Vote opponent

[pure moss]

ok I trust

[gritty ridge]

You should really put drake in p2 btw

[pure moss]

who in p1?

[gritty ridge]

Soda

Makes it better vs siren

[pure moss]

ok next time I'll do that

I need 2 more CA before I can finish building the Absolute comp for my pvp

[gritty ridge]

Tbh im thinking bottom win for sg

Your rosa is in p3 so gets debuffed and might not lethal

[pure moss]

300m different in power I'm ahead

so I should vote myself

[gritty ridge]

If youre running poli should go soda, drake, noir, poli, rosa

It works better vs mirror

[pure moss]

noted

nah Imma keep it for my opponent

[gritty ridge]

I hope I am pleasantly surprised then

[pure moss]

if I'm wrong, try again next time

[gritty ridge]

I always vote for myself when possible

[pure moss]

I always vote according to the comps but this one is confusing

[gritty ridge]

The t5 is the most confusing to me

[pure moss]

I think he takes t5

but I don't know how t4 work tho

I just finished building that team

[gritty ridge]

Its an odd slow cindy, but should still win

I prefer mihara in p2

[pure moss]

mihara should die first tho

[gritty ridge]

I dont really know how absolute trio works tbh

[pure moss]

absolute very gud, mine will be 2.5 RL cuz emilia 25% cs

[gritty ridge]

This is what im running this season

Ive really gotta work out a better t5

[pure moss]

double sg teams lol

[gritty ridge]

Yeah thats just cuz im still low invest

[spiral onyx]

https://youtu.be/KOP7rNsDxMw?si=5isT30DDYZYz2SWf

[gritty ridge]

Hi keripo

[hybrid fox]

@shell hazel I think the scar team wont work if he goes cindy (burst) right?

oh he used siren which might be an issue

[shell hazel]

what is the team?

or all the teams if you can show them

[hybrid fox]

Siren might lose cuz extra damage from her burst
team 2 win
And t3 cuz cindy burst kills?

[onyx scaffold]

keripo uses old same cook huh

[kindred blade]

Do these teams make sense for PvP? Anything to change?

[onyx scaffold]

Team 1
No. Jackal will burst instead of Noise with that order. It means Noise becomes useless.
Team 2
The idea is good but... If your Pepper is killed, u are cooked.
Try this
Privaty Pepper Anne 2SG
Anne will revive Privaty and she will stun
Team 3
That team is too slow.

At your level, u should make one good team with decent cp
Make another one but aim for high cp
Auto 3rd team

[onyx scaffold]

Round 1 and 3 should win

[hybrid fox]

Oh, indeed

[shell hazel]

t3 was the same as before wasn't it?

I think you still just win that as is

[quiet merlin]

jackal-blanc-vesti-helmT-emilia
how do i beat this?

[shell hazel]

is your vesti built well? if not could try rapi indom

[quiet merlin]

shes decent

[shell hazel]

then similar but vesti should work

rapi might be more reliable, if it's rookie could try both out

[hybrid fox]

Yeah
Just at cindy burst
Well I overestimated them this time

[shell hazel]

they had cindy in that team last time as well

it's just slow cindy comp 2rl scar can beat it as we saw with a bit of rng

[quiet merlin]

vesti worked, thank you

[shell hazel]

curious as they lack biscuit did your vesti wipe out their blanc before they could b2?

[quiet merlin]

no invul went to emilia

[shell hazel]

your biscuit protects jackal/blanc from early doom

[quiet merlin]

i tried rapi aswell, worked even better

[shell hazel]

yeah thing with rapi is in an indom war she's good

because even if both teams get indom and everyone else dies, she's an mg who if built does not need to reload

so the next frame after indom ends she just 1 taps the last 1 hp before RL like vesti or emi can reload/fire

[kindred blade]

Thanks you!

[quick lake]

Challenger rank alr? yap alot!

[shell hazel]

enredched ages ago

[kindred blade]

Oh i forgot. How about a team for the Rookie arena?

[hollow lagoon]

looks like a jackal blanc vesti indom

slot trina and centi for burst gen?

lol 2rl? big scary

might be too fast if u also fight other indom

[shell hazel]

level 160 I doubt many have any idea what they're doing

but may want to cp pad

[hollow lagoon]

units i picked are firly high on their cp list anyway

[shell hazel]

the power levels on those units make no sense

[hollow lagoon]

first team is literal their top 4+ jackal

[shell hazel]

how is blanc higher cp than sr-15 cindy?

[kindred blade]

Oh this's the actual list btw

[hollow lagoon]

oh

still vesti so it seems?

[shell hazel]

yeah I woud but you can lob cindy in for cp

or siren for stun/cp

vesti blanc jackal can't be dropped out but that is b1/b2/b3 taken care of

[hollow lagoon]

i mean

his centi and trina aint that low

still top row

slap a blue doll on them and prob bumps into infinity

but then tis indom so u can get away with slow

[tight finch]

Speaking of CP pad I did a quick roll on my crown chest

[hollow lagoon]

dang

[shell hazel]

amazing cp pad

[hollow lagoon]

i wanna pad that good

[tight finch]

year of rock rng gone

[shell hazel]

maybe?

[hollow lagoon]

i have charge damage on my crown, chime would be dissapointed

[shell hazel]

will feed to 2.5RL - adds siren stun + cp pad

[tight finch]

surely chime be meta crown team

[hollow lagoon]

i just hope we can stop with the crown mast bull shit

[shell hazel]

you can also arrange so you avoid siren stun

[hollow lagoon]

but man my crown needs fixing if chime is indeed good

[shell hazel]

try this

link should be siren + vesti + jackal

[hollow lagoon]

2 lines of charge dmg i need to roll off my king

[shell hazel]

nah freebie SSR will be maybe OK for new player

[hollow lagoon]

and they are both line 2

[shell hazel]

I can't see them making chime meta - for free

[kindred blade]

Thanks you!

[hollow lagoon]

idk

if chime needs crown to be good

i can see it being good

[tight finch]

But its chime + crown plot armor

[hollow lagoon]

since ur dependent on having crown

[tight finch]

chime dies crown enrages

[hollow lagoon]

it could be the trina scarlet situation

[primal charm]

bay bug not sharing dmg in ca 😔

[hollow lagoon]

useless unit with out the other

like arcana isabel

[shell hazel]

np you got some good starting units make sure you wishlist for any missing pvp units

[hollow lagoon]

i think cindy burst multi hits? and bay cover got blown

[shell hazel]

wishlist for rumani certainly she is missing in your roster

helm (for treasure absolutely wanted also)

drunk scarlet in pilgrim

[hollow lagoon]

u mean biscuit

[shell hazel]

biscuit is also missing yes need that too

[primal charm]

with biscuit its supposed to stall all this

[shell hazel]

I don't think I saw noah either

laplace (treasure eventually)

bay (treasure)

[hollow lagoon]

idk but is bay even defender

she is

[shell hazel]

bay is defender

[primal charm]

i test in spa and rk and this is not normal behaviour

[kindred blade]

Ok i'll wishlist all of them rn.

[hollow lagoon]

so ca works off of different rules then

or u know damage share does hit bay but since she invuln all the damage does to the rest of the units

which would be rough

[shell hazel]

I'd not run bay p1 even treasured tbh

[hollow lagoon]

me neither

but his case is interesting

[shell hazel]

you got rumani and biscuit I'd rumani p1

[hollow lagoon]

biscuit does proc on rumani and bay, the rest of the units just fold

[tight finch]

how much diff does bay treasure make btw

[shell hazel]

not meta useful on attack mostly

[hollow lagoon]

bay treasure is not huge impactful

[shell hazel]

can beat scar 2RL with bay instead of noah which frees up noah

[hollow lagoon]

it make her a bit less likely to fail

and gib a smal heal which helps

for the team

and a single instance of cover and self heal for bay if she runs out of cover?

[tight finch]

I yolo invested her cos cute 30 tickets I get dupe to unlock treasure, and since ani gonna make me spend again, Free CP too I guess

[hollow lagoon]

she's not a bad unit

and ofcourse, cute lel

[tight finch]

I forgot to get skin cos I didnt have dupe 🧱

[hollow lagoon]

u didnt get the skin>

oh u sad sod

[shell hazel]

oh no

missing bay skin is evil

[hollow lagoon]

you miss out on dis

[tight finch]

I stopped spending after SB was gonna make exception and forgot

[hollow lagoon]

bricked account

[tight finch]

Rerun in a year

[hollow lagoon]

ye

pass skin does rerun now days

dude her dialogue changes with this skin

it's.... it does things to me

[tight finch]

speaking of cheerleaders surely clay treasure next

since we on true damage arc

[hollow lagoon]

clay needs tresure lel

flora clay firma +cdr?

and then fit ada+ whatever other electric tru dmg, flora can pulse heal units beside her, actually achieve full sustain

kinda nifty

oh wait no spot for cdr

dead comp

or have to use like liter

could work

firma dead in the water tho

[tight finch]

clay treasure gonna be like viper re-enter b2 + cdr ez

[hollow lagoon]

reenter would suck

clay is 40 sec she's basically ment to run with flora

reenter would result in 2 incomplete archtypes

instead of just 1 bad one

[tight finch]

true I forget burst still release in 40sec

[hollow lagoon]

Ada is also very friendly in that comp

[kindred blade]

I've got 2 spare blue dolls. I should put them on Trina and Jackal right?

[hollow lagoon]

Tho clay treasure has to be very good, cuz as things stand people can just use tact enuhwa+emma+cdr

[hollow lagoon]

Yes

Anni units that’s coming are 2 smg and a sniper u should be fine ish

Jackal deserve doll fur sure

Just listen to the hippo thing

[shell hazel]

yeah I'd do it just don't waste doll materials or others too much atm

nayuta should be meta usable so you'd want to build her for b2

[kindred blade]

I see

[shell hazel]

might creep crown even we'll see

[hollow lagoon]

Nyuta is smg

[gaunt pulsar]

imagine she is 40s cd surely not right?

[hollow lagoon]

Nyuta creeping crown is doubt, if her description is as it stands(dps+heals) crown’s shielding still makes her more important

Doing most interception without crown shielding is bad idea

Might just be different usage?

[shell hazel]

nah can't see it not for anni pilgrim people would riot 😛

[hollow lagoon]

40sec for anni pilgrim is lunacy

From how she works on the stream she seems to be SBS’s permanent buddy

[swift mango]

Clay treasure?

[gaunt pulsar]

we probably getting even lower kraken clears with her

[pastel narwhal]

Nayu is 40s?

[hollow lagoon]

Kraken dies to be with couple seconds remaining on mobile atm

[hollow lagoon]

Don’t jinx

We don’t have another 40 sec wind b2 to fit her with even if she is 40

People would riot so hard

What would be unique is if she is b2 cdr

Oh lord imagine if she is indeed 40 sec people force her to partner with guilty

[tight finch]

arcana isabel

[gaunt pulsar]

yea, cannot see it be true myself, just woke up today to that thought, but realistically if they would release 40sec b2 during some major patch it would be 2 units together, not just one

[hollow lagoon]

They are locked to eachother tho

If nyuta is universal she can enable noncdr b1 to run stuff smooth

Chaining 2 cdr together on non -burst time comp is not helpful

So Nyuta could be her unique thing

But I’m just hopium cuz that would be one of the ways to make her strong without creeping crown

[leaden canyon]

I think anni will probably be solid but new years will have the broken stuff

[tight finch]

Annis surely be RL

[hollow lagoon]

Os anis better not be ANOTHER iron code b2 lol

[leaden canyon]

Well rapi basically stayed the same but can do both fire and iron code damage

[tight finch]

Or we just get our 100th MG

[leaden canyon]

So I wonder if overspec anis would have double ele also

[hollow lagoon]

Anni is smg x2 and a sr

Anis could be???

Rapi was ar turned mg

[leaden canyon]

Thats more because AR is weak weapon type

[gaunt pulsar]

i'm happy if she is better at healing than blanc, because blanc is already great and having even more meta b2 unit would be great for me (especially when i'm crownless)

[leaden canyon]

RL is strong so they could keep her RL

[hollow lagoon]

Anis could be RL ?

[tight finch]

Replace SR anis with OS anis
Tho Sanis went SG so

[hollow lagoon]

Kingless heathen errr I mean sorry you must be having a terrible time

[gaunt pulsar]

being creative

[hollow lagoon]

Anis would be the character most beloved by SU, 3 alts

[tight finch]

She gonna be first to have 3 alters right

[primal charm]

i got my bay bug in this ca, where to report

[hollow lagoon]

Ye

[primal charm]

the left side is normal behaviour in spa and rk, and the right ( bay burst is useless ) is in ca

[hollow lagoon]

ye looks bug, problem is not sure which side is the bugged one

like how is bay skill supposed to work anyway

the non ca one looks like 5 units are full on not taking damage period, if anything that looks mroe buggy

nvm they healing

not buggy

[primal charm]

the left is normal cuz it happened million times before, the ca one is the first time bay bis cant tank cind nuke

[hollow lagoon]

so the ca must be the bugged one

@tropic summit

[tropic summit]

there are 2 different enemy bursting timings.

one the first one, your opponent is slower, cindy nuke hits bay's cover and gets denied
on the second one, cindy is on B3 while you're on B2, you're slower and not in time to catch the nuke

looks like a CS% issue to me where you were simply faster or slower

[fading ermine]

im lose

[primal charm]

nah i tested with 2rl cindy before

[primal charm]

my team is 2rl

sir

[tropic summit]

it's CS%, the timings don't lie

[primal charm]

wait maybe its the case

let me see it

[tropic summit]

watch it slowly and you can see the timings are different between the two

[uncut egret]

What is my best pvp team? Do I have enough to make 2?

[primal charm]

but how could he reach 1.5rl?

[tropic summit]

not necessarely 1.5RL, but enough enough CS% to hit B3 while you're midway B2ing, cindy nuke has a part of the hits snapshotted and a part of followup hits

[tropic summit]

you were directly hit by the snapshot hits and only caught the followup hits

since you're linked on ele weakness, whole link gets hit by ele advantage dmg (helmT)

[primal charm]

no you wrong the bug is not about bay did not catch up with timing, its about she not reduce dmg%

[tropic summit]

read again, you got hit by the snasphot hits, you don't reduce them because they were already cast before you B2

snapshot is like a picture taken in that moment, your bay wasn't up yet, no dmg reduction

to put it simply, your opponent CS% allowed this behavior, no bugs involved

[primal charm]

this is impossible? my team is 2rl, how 2rl b2 not catch b3 if the cindy nuke is not 1.5?

[tropic summit]

they've more CS% than you do

it's like a heavy CS% scarlet can bypass a non CS% noah on same 2RL

[primal charm]

i strongly disagree becuz he is not a ca player tho

[tropic summit]

if it makes you feel better open a support case then and report it as a bug

i gave you my 50 cents, what is clear in the 2 videos is that opponent is clearly on 2 different speeds

it's pretty blatant cindy is on B3 while you're not even done reaching B3

after that make of it what you want

[hollow lagoon]

2rl cindy is pertty wild

in ca

[primal charm]

but i with 24%cs on all unit

i dont get it

[tropic summit]

the video does not lie bro... look at it yourself, you're not even on B3 and cindy nuke has already been cast

i know what you mean with the CS% lines and it makes no sense, but the game is telling the opposite

personally, it's one of the reason i find arena plain dumb in CA, useless waste of resources

as there'll be always someone with better invest

[primal charm]

how many cs for your cindy b3 to be faster than b2 bay enemy?

[tropic summit]

refer to nikke work, no clue either

i'm running barebones 11%CS team wide

[hollow lagoon]

i dont even ahve 11% team wide, rail ur not pve main yet

[primal charm]

but bay is b2?

[tropic summit]

i'm shooting range main, need those CS% to shoot faster surely

[hollow lagoon]

maybe bay needs resolve time like noah?

[tropic summit]

bay needs to be cast BEFORE snapshotting from cindy occurs, else your team is considered not having bay effect up yet

[primal charm]

they did

[hollow lagoon]

cast or resolve?

[tropic summit]

they clearly did not, you were slower

[tropic summit]

could be resolve, just like noah

[hollow lagoon]

then that would be it then, ebcause bay does require her self to be alive, could be taking extra server ticks to resolve

[uncut egret]

Bump

[shell hazel]

did you forget cubes in CA also? 😄

[hollow lagoon]

looks like a cp pad situation for u since u dont have critical defenseive pieces like, biscuit.noah.jackal

[shell hazel]

if no quantum then we no 2RL

[uncut egret]

So just my top units? Not sure what cp pad is 🙂

[hollow lagoon]

literal top units

[primal charm]

they did share the same number

[uncut egret]

Got it, ty

[primal charm]

i already equipped sir

[fading ermine]

[tropic summit]

run these 2 for now, 3rd can be auto on w/e is left on high CP

naga scarlet drake RH ada
ein vestiTU adeB anis siren
auto

1. finish your campaign team
2. finish your kraken team

• wishlist rumani, trina, centi, biscuit, noah, cinderella, RRH, SBS, noise, rapunzel
• get helm treasured asap

[primal charm]

do you really think you can get b3 faster than a b2 at standard 2rl team?

[hollow lagoon]

put defenders in p1 so rest of ur team can live a bit longer

[tropic summit]

assuming opponent has higher CS% than you do, it could be at least i've seen it happening... but if you're saying you've high CS% yourself, then it shouldn't happen

[hollow lagoon]

just report it

[tropic summit]

won't help, they give 0 fks and give generic answer

look at my support ticket for sync shot, did absolutely 0

[hollow lagoon]

then it is what it is

[tropic summit]

"hurr durr oke we'll take a look and let u know, case closed" - never heard from em again

[hollow lagoon]

its not like we can do anything about it other than just repot

[tropic summit]

the best way to deal with this is to give 0 fks about CA

[hollow lagoon]

invalidate the enitre ca season?

[tropic summit]

useless resource sink

[uncut egret]

Can you elaborate?

[hollow lagoon]

read unit defensive stat, put in far left, pray to univers that they hold out a bit longer before ur dps units get touched

[tropic summit]

just run these teams i gave you and read the notes
#pvp-arena message

if you wanna learn the mechanics and jargon:
https://nikke.gg/arena-mechanics/

atm you don't have most pvp core units, so you'll make do with pve units that can be used in pvp

[hollow lagoon]

get biscuit/jacka from the unit selector? do we get unit selectors from anni or new year?

or both?

[tropic summit]

i wouldn't waste selector on pvp units

he doesn't have campaign team or kraken finished

[hollow lagoon]

he's 120 sync he dont need kraken

kranken aint hard if he gonna be pulling nayuta/jellyfish anyway

[tropic summit]

you've a lot of hopes for him to find the pve meta units via standard pulls

[uncut egret]

What is campaign team? Thought I was doing good with Tia, Naga, siren, rh, vesti tu?

[tropic summit]

he needs to beat wall too

[hollow lagoon]

i mean

i selected jackal lol

[tropic summit]

cuz you've access to 💳

bro might live under a bridge we don't know

[hollow lagoon]

he could too with a bit less meals per day and a tighter belt

[tropic summit]

yeah there you go

[hollow lagoon]

i eat 2 meals per day

food or waifus

the choice is clear

[tropic summit]

combination of the following:

liter/siren/RRH crown alice/RH/RRH SBS/cindy mmast/helmT/naga

which is then dependant on your current ele advantage for that stage

[uncut egret]

Should I be running liter > tia?

[tropic summit]

tia naga liter B3 B3 offers good dmg, better than the bunnies, but weaker than the crown + mmast variation

also needs manual on tia on threat heavy stages

might also be weaker than the usual

b1 crown b3 b3 naga/helmT

although naga is situational on core availability

so beware if you facing bosses without one

[hollow lagoon]

wait, we are looking a multi pilgrim accouint that's sync 120

that line up's better than mine

when i was his sync

siren scarlet redhood

[gaunt pulsar]

there wasn't anything about unit selector on stream yesterday, unless they just didnt mentioned it, only chime/small white/rapu selector

[tropic summit]

maybe he just lucky and not a spender

[hollow lagoon]

[hollow lagoon]

could be new years only then

[gaunt pulsar]

as a relatively new player myself i would say multiple pilgrim is a common occurrence this days even at 120, especially if you spend your gems, maybe he is slow leveling too

[shell hazel]

in the CA match your entire opponent team has fired before you have

they appear to have more CS than you do here at the least

[tropic summit]

the fact a slow nuke, cindy, is already on B3 and past casting while they're not finished casting B3 on their own side kinda gave it away

[crystal flicker]

This CA I got the middle group... so even if I made it to final, I wont have SG defender advantage

[tropic summit]

multiple "good" pilgrim is NOT a common occurence

and if it's common to you, you've won lottery and should watch out for truck-kun when you cross the road

[gaunt pulsar]

some are just lucky

[uncut egret]

First SSR was RH

[tropic summit]

i'll be personally driving that truck

[tropic summit]

yeah, won lottery

[shell hazel]

yeah they're def a bit quicker here as the noise buff is on before we complete b1

[crystal flicker]

Winning lottery is getting both RH and Crown early game

[shell hazel]

at same RL they would be at same time

[tropic summit]

that's not winning lottery, that's winning twice the lottery

[uncut egret]

My start was nice... no complaints

I take it back. Mary was first apparently

[quick lake]

My rocks have been well-saved for Liberalio

[gaunt pulsar]

like 90% of my spa people already with RRH+crown+RH, and 50% of them with siren it's crazy, and we all only at 210-230 range
i may be exaggerate a little, but it's around that

[quick lake]

[tropic summit]

[uncut egret]

@tropic summit regarding WL, what should I change? Should I keep them on after 1 copy?

[tropic summit]

ah the power of money or rerollers... not sure which of the two is worse

probably the latter because it involves so much time wasted

[tropic summit]

uh wishlist looks good, although there may be better min/maxing that #questions chat can give you

[primal charm]

how much? 30% cs?

[tropic summit]

@eager mountain

[shell hazel]

how much cs do you have may be the better question?

[primal charm]

i max 24%cs on all unit but b3 cindy couldnt be fater than no cs b2 in 2rl matchup sir

[shell hazel]

how much cs do your units have?

[tropic summit]

or he could give you his blablalink and you get them on your xls

[shell hazel]

11% team wide cs is enough to speed you up here to prevent such things, but if you have 0% and they have 11% they are quicker

[primal charm]

i dont remember but let start with 0cs on all unit

[shell hazel]

even Ada would need 11%

[shell hazel]

if they have public blabla yes I can do that

[tropic summit]

it's easier as you've it on actual paper

[primal charm]

but look closely they did share dmg received

i mean the bug would be about dmg% reduction

[shell hazel]

ada without any CS even if everyone else has 11% ruins this still

[primal charm]

not about not activated yet

[shell hazel]

where ada = tia I think they operate the same and is why you had tia in there

after 11% I don't think much matters here

[tropic summit]

that's correct

[fading ermine]

[shell hazel]

they would find it hard to outspeed you if you had 11%

[tropic summit]

nero/moran give the team DR, bay gives less DR and shares damage while treasure adds a tiny bit of sustain.
nero/moran is superior when matched against

[shell hazel]

even with extremes of 21% cs on their team, I suspect you'd be fast enough at 11

[fading ermine]

I know bro

[shell hazel]

would be close though, still many don't have 21% cs 🙂

[tropic summit]

imagine running 21%CS

[shell hazel]

if you do activate blabla I can pull the nikke info from it

yeah I doubt they have that much there, but I suspect their CS may be in the 11-15% region team wide

[primal charm]

even with 24% on all unit, b3 will never hapen before standard enemy b2 in 2rl matchup

[shell hazel]

Bay burst takes time to operate, she's noah at home

[tropic summit]

and cindy snapshots her first part of the nuke

combine that and you get exactly what we talked about

[shell hazel]

it's pretty clear you're being outsped at least, I can see from the CA frames that they all shoot quicker

and on the rookie one I don't think that was true

[tropic summit]

posted this earlier if you missed it

[primal charm]

the ca frame is mine tho..

[primal charm]

here chat they did share dmg

[shell hazel]

blanc on the rookie team as well

[gaunt pulsar]

nikke work might be off with it's calcs also, math is good but game sometimes paints a different picture to what it shows

[shell hazel]

not the same match exactly

[tropic summit]

yep

point is, bay actual resolve didn't match cindy snapshot timing

which leads to the initial part of the hits to bypass

it's a CS% issue, which is clear from shots fired

[shell hazel]

you say they're not a pvp player but they're in CA and presumably they've at least invested their SPA teams

likely this is one of them - and they rolled for CS on them all

[tropic summit]

that speed is definitely not a casual pvper

or plain dumb luck on OLs

[shell hazel]

can happen

but not on all of them together

for that to be on 4 units it would be more deliberate

[tropic summit]

ye makes sense

[shell hazel]

I may be able to find their nikkes in blabla if you can tell me which union id it is and which player 😛

and then we cope they have public nikke option

union id I think only shows in game, it's near the top on their profile pic

[eager mountain]

i see nothing weird from that

[tropic summit]

she cute

[eager mountain]

[tropic summit]

[crystal flicker]

They hide their Nikke tho

[shell hazel]

default is hidden

due to weird union raid things I could find every union raid battle and related union players

I could even then see how much railtracer did 😄

[crystal flicker]

I tried to stalk my opponent once, found their Blabla, but their Nikkes are hidden lol

[shell hazel]

yeah it can happen 🙁

[shell hazel]

not in a union! cheeky

[primal charm]

he is roxi and im umbra

[shell hazel]

that's one way to avoid being found

[primal charm]

i saw the replay with 3rd player too

and the weird thing happen, my bay team got infinity dmg from sbs

[crystal flicker]

They wont fix bug during CA

Even they stall the Delta decoy fix till CA finals lol

[shell hazel]

I don't really like the team you run there anyway tbh bay always feels a bit cope

I'm running mine only with my vesti to free up noah for another team

these are my teams for CA15

I forgot to move ros to p5 even though I meant to 😄

noise/jackal feed that to 2.5RL at least, and noise b1 makes the team tankier with jackal link enough to probably do fine against 2RL cindy

[blissful willow]

https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/1431923725371969677

[shell hazel]

wish reset could refund some doll mats also :9

I don't know why they stop you using them when you feel like it, limited supply so not like your hardcore raiders will be resetting units between runs that much, and if they were worried about that they could simply prevent them working if raids were up

[glad meteor]

Can copy paste their union id and search them or block them to send them on block list to see

Oh nvm

[glad meteor]

[glad meteor]

I made some bad decisions with dolls

[shell hazel]

yeah like not expecting 100% refund but if you reset a unit should refund some 🙂

won't give the doll back ofc as they're permanent

[pastel narwhal]

silicone dolls

[crystal flicker]

Dolls in a Jar

[swift mango]

Hey I remember umbra name somehow lol... How are u faring in current CA?

[swift mango]

It's just update usually happened in the middle of CA.

[primal charm]

im with from the start blood, just different name

do you remember minhmiku? thats the previous name

we are in the same bracket with chris before?

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel @tropic summit it seems chime is a reenter b2

[swift mango]

Yeah, we moved on to 3rd bracket. While you stayed 4th with the newbies from 5th joined.

[primal charm]

and in this dc, my nickname was jolteon

[gaunt pulsar]

yeah, and nayuta is 20s cd burst 100%, rewatched jp stream like 30minutes ago

[swift mango]

Ic

[hollow lagoon]

[primal charm]

what do you think about this bay case tho sir

[swift mango]

I don't know.

[primal charm]

the comp is my proud, and now in ca its wack

😔

[swift mango]

How the battle report looks like?

[primal charm]

what is the battle report

[swift mango]

Sth like this

Records*

[lunar pawn]

@leaden marten check SPA again

[tropic summit]

i've 0 expectations from chime tho, free SSRs tend to be sh*t

[swift mango]

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395 me coping

[lunar pawn]

join the hopium team

[primal charm]

dont talk shit bout my spirit animal

[tropic summit]

i love chime, but i don't like SU and i know they gonna make her crappy because free SSR

[swift mango]

Maybe she's 3rd SSR banner.

[primal charm]

trust me this time will be diff

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-copium-od-copium-overdose-overdose-twitch-gif-9006779378751968406

[lunar pawn]

they already said she's free, what kinda copium is that

[tropic summit]

i hope you're right

[lunar pawn]

I'm gonna flood them in negative feedbacks if they make her trash

[tropic summit]

i've been doing that for over a year for so many other things

[primal charm]

lets make this as a movement

"chime must be goat"

[lunar pawn]

fr

[crystal flicker]

Chime increase attack of her King
Crown is Defender

Crown alter

[pastel narwhal]

[hollow lagoon]

wow

i made past top 64

Ha?

[tropic summit]

all the way to champion now

[onyx scaffold]

100% lose rate

i mean my scar team

[tropic summit]

bad matchup ofc she lose

[onyx scaffold]

every matchup is bad for her

[hollow lagoon]

Don’t think so

[tropic summit]

not when:

• soda lands her stun when she should, which is RNG
• scarlet doesn't get direct counter, which is RNG
• play CA, which is RNG

[hollow lagoon]

My scarlet won’t every fight so far but it’s prob the rosana

[keen vapor]

What's been this Chime slander

[tropic summit]

yes a free SSR will surely be meta

[upper grove]

[lunar pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/you-better-hope-so-lightner-outer-banks-i-hope-you're-right-netflix-gif-13251770455690520980

[keen vapor]

It will

[onyx scaffold]

4/4 lose

[hollow lagoon]

Poor soda scarlet, stunned my bay but my bay already bursted

[onyx scaffold]

5/5 lose soon

[pastel narwhal]

@swift mango i thought i was gonna lose

[onyx scaffold]

be in believe means besti

[umbral belfry]

@dense kindle

[pastel narwhal]

i'm sorry mom

[umbral belfry]

no

[dense kindle]

It okay I knew I was from the moment bracket was set up

You know what to do

[umbral belfry]

your pie sacrifice will not be in vain

[onyx scaffold]

seriously i think scarlet 2RL is a bad team now if scarlet trina cannot do enough dmg
it has a chance to win if soda stuns the right enemies and it is all

[pure moss]

@gritty ridge your first instinct was right

[umbral belfry]

hi kilia gl

[hollow lagoon]

lol, biscuit killed my Noah, but mana resed Noah

[pure moss]

hi Hime

bottom right are defend right?

[hollow lagoon]

Bay and Noah both counter, strong Moran teams lives it, 3 bad matchups I feel, slow Cindy makes 4

[pure moss]

I think I'm taking this one, I'm defending

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/yay-gif-21093719

We giving 1 win on team 4

[hollow lagoon]

[umbral crown]

Perfectly balanced

[shell hazel]

[hollow lagoon]

Friend ship power?

[shell hazel]

all the power of friendship crew got to 32

[hollow lagoon]

My next ones look????

Well my teams are ???? To begin with

I have no predictions

[cunning crown]

The lads continue on

[shell hazel]

I think I should win next, depends how t1 goes but I have xanne vs their m.anchor

so we both kill someone but I res my 5th

2-3 I'm fairly sure on winning, 4-5 ?? but not sure they'll matter

[cunning crown]

[hollow lagoon]

Head empty

[shell hazel]

xmica trust

[hollow lagoon]

No thoughts

[pastel narwhal]

same as mine

[hollow lagoon]

Oof their vesti on my slow Cindy

[umbral crown]

Mica

[hollow lagoon]

He judging me

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

[gaunt pulsar]

probably win, if you can be fast enough to burst before him

[hollow lagoon]

2.5

And he’s ?

[shell hazel]

2RL if someone dies

which will happen

[hollow lagoon]

Prob would die cuz my invested sg

[gaunt pulsar]

that would be if he had rosanna though no?

[shell hazel]

anyone on either team dying

pretty likely

[old mural]

hello people , i have started playing this game for about a month now and i generally ignore the arena . is it alright for me to do that at the earlier stages or shoulld i be playing them

[shell hazel]

other team does so they'll be faster prob

[hollow lagoon]

Wouldent know

Prob will

[shell hazel]

SPA is a good source of gems if you're anywhere near the top of your brackets

rookie doesn't really matter

[old mural]

i see. should i be spending proper time and resources on sp arena teams or focus on story clears first . i am in chapter 14 rn

[hollow lagoon]

U can only spend if u have proper pieces

[shell hazel]

pve > pvp and actually being ahead in pve you can do better in pvp just on levels alone

we have anniversary coming soon as well

[hollow lagoon]

Hippo make me predictions for my next ones

[shell hazel]

about a month and chapter 14 is a little on the slow side though I think? what sync are you at?

[old mural]

132 iirc. yes i haven't been getting the time to play recently . i wanted to continue the story but cannot

[hollow lagoon]

Im feeling a wllwl

[shell hazel]

they are doing story mode very soon, where you can play maybe even all the way to the end even if low power

would let you skip all dialogue in normal if you watch it there instead

[hollow lagoon]

Could also be llwwl

[old mural]

yes i have heard about that and i think it will be a lot of help for me

[shell hazel]

otherwise if you're casual you will never do amazing in the pvp tbh

[old mural]

i don't wanna skip story i like it

[shell hazel]

especially if not spending

[shell hazel]

I mean you can watch all in story mode

[old mural]

it is not a major loss right?

[shell hazel]

then when you do the normal mode stages you don't have to watch again

[hollow lagoon]

Wonder if normal stage gib rewards

[shell hazel]

I don't think they will tbh but we'll see

[hollow lagoon]

or even outpost progression

[old mural]

i see

[onyx scaffold]

@swift mango please judge?

[shell hazel]

if you're like me or zanta here we get 3000 gems every 2 weeks from being top in arenas

but for casuals or people who want to take breaks - not possible

[old mural]

a 10 pull every 2 weeks that's a fairly large amount

[shell hazel]

if you're in top 30-100 somewhere maybe half that

[onyx scaffold]

i think i will win 1 2 3 4 5

[shell hazel]

yeah problem is the people at the top often spend money

and sometimes even if you do, they just outspend you lol

[old mural]

so is it possible for a f2p to even get decent rewards out of pvp

[onyx scaffold]

2000 gems tier is braindead for f2p

[old mural]

and especially considering a noob like me rn

[shell hazel]

so it's more relaxing not to chase the top ranks if you're not lazer focused on it

[onyx scaffold]

anything more than 2000 requires some conditions
anything lower means brick

[shell hazel]

I think that is f2p that is goal driven though

i.e. never skip a day, pushing campaign etc

[old mural]

i see

[onyx scaffold]

like i said, it is braindead. so if u put some efforts into it, u can get more

[old mural]

with my sync level being 132 rn is it possible to achieve ANYTHING there or nah?

[hollow lagoon]

Tf people voting me for

[shell hazel]

I think it's more than most do tbh, you have to min/max well still

[shell hazel]

you will always get some gems so you should do the special arena

[hollow lagoon]

Depends on ur own bracket

[onyx scaffold]

pvp brackets are made based on account creation date normally

so unless you are a returnee, you have chance

[old mural]

alright i will start playing the special arena from now

[shell hazel]

post your nikkes

we can suggest some initial teams

[old mural]

alright

please wait just a little bit i am opening the game

[shell hazel]

and maybe you can learn a bit about how the matches go, so you can still do OK without going crazy on it 🙂

[hollow lagoon]

Worse case open wallet and unleash death

[onyx scaffold]

claiming this is considered as participating the SpA
u still get gems

[old mural]

that's exactly what i want for now perform decently enough

[shell hazel]

think if you refuse to spend you can min/max well a lot of people don't do even basic stuff to max free options

[old mural]

i might consider that in the future

[onyx scaffold]

now that i think about it. getting 2000 gems is easy because most ppl are pvp brick

[old mural]

i like this game so far

[hollow lagoon]

Walleting is always best when done early especially during anni

U beat them down so hard they can’t bounce back up

[shell hazel]

zanta
t1 - you should win if you're 2RL? are you 2RL?
t2 - I dislike this one as you got no ros as we discussed
t3 - I think it's loss
t4 - you should win
t5 - you might win?

[hollow lagoon]

And it gaps further and further from there

[old mural]

rn it is impossible for me but in probably 6-7 months i am waiting for my offer letter

[shell hazel]

there's less and more efficient ways to min/max your resources a bit tbh

[hollow lagoon]

2.5 is t1?

[old mural]

i see

[shell hazel]

mana version of the moran comp

you might be OK still, need moran to b1 before scar hits

[hollow lagoon]

i named this season’s comp “weird shit”

[shell hazel]

your t4 may win but I think your noise is getting stunned, you still would b1, depends if you outspeed siren

[old mural]

this is the state i am in rn

[shell hazel]

you got some alright units, the upcoming nayuta in about 4 days time would be worth trying to get for your pve

[hollow lagoon]

Prob not I recall that comp is 2.5 rl

[old mural]

yes i am planning to get her and probably rapi redhood

[gaunt pulsar]

i'm believing in Zant they probably will burst at around the same time and more attack buffs + revived noir(if she even dies) will save him enemy wont be 2rl because naga, and i don't believe in lvl10 skill rosanna on enemy side, enemy is at 67,9% energy when 5th SG shot volley happens, but naga gonna be dead in like the volley of first 2 shots from every sg, considering on his side everyone shoots at p1, and dead naga in 2 shots is minus like -6 energy so they gotta shoot until 6th shot anyway which is later, which in turn would be around the same burst time

[old mural]

my friend told me she was having a rerun

[shell hazel]

rapi redhood isn't running yet, may get a re-run at new years

normal redhood is getting a re-run, is still worth getting one

[old mural]

okie so i will get her in the newyear

[shell hazel]

so your main 3 teams we would want to build with some mix of pvp units and your pve ones for power/speed reasons

[old mural]

over nayuta and rapi ? and there is another pilgrim in the anni right?

[hollow lagoon]

if I die @shell hazel will carry my hopes and dreams

[shell hazel]

nayuta > rh = liberalio maybe

we need to see how liberalio is

nayuta will be strong and you're lacking a good b2 like crown

[hollow lagoon]

Rh kinda important should prob wallet

Liberiano predicted to be sbs buddy prob get because u have sbs

Nyuta get because hot

[shell hazel]

you will get free pulls, so whilst I'd say may be worth pulling for nayuta, mileage also works well here (the gold ones)

[old mural]

okie

[shell hazel]

you can see if you get lucky on the daily free pulls also

21 days, means waiting some though

[gaunt pulsar]

i think it depends on how long your Noir lives, being max core might save you

[shell hazel]

I'd get build/nayuta day 1 as long as her kit looks good, we should get details soon