pvp-arena

[hybrid fox]

360p HD combat of nikke (it gone wild)

is that strat usable in spvp

[rich ledge]

so sad all the nero invest down the drain

i didnt even use her much

[swift mango]

Usable but easily beat.

P2 helm is just food for Noah+Biscuit m

[swift mango]

Guess I will just reset my Nero because Rapu won't come home.

[tropic summit]

check the CP of that padded team then multiply it for 0.846 and see how's that CP against their meta teams

[swift mango]

Nero is still main stay in Emi less bracket.

And still win champ in Emi bracket as well.

Invested Nero+Moran 2.5 RL still beat 2rl Moran Bay. In mirror.

[bleak marsh]

Anyone cheering for group 5 for SPA?

[quartz rover]

261,689.796, looks like they wont be able to unless they use the swole ones

And I'm not even sure if they know about cp deficit and stuff

[mystic rain]

azure will take u out and aha will take azure out

all as planned

[rich ledge]

i think my nero moran is ok but it loses alot

[swift mango]

He won't have a revenge like that. Just like I missed my revenge on Chris twice already because when my line up ordercould beat him. He lost.

[mystic rain]

has aha ever talked here?

[covert lintel]

How?

Nero team lost to anis burst

[tropic summit]

is your vestiTU invested? when asking for help beating a matchup it's a good idea to post your box to give us a clue of what you can run

there's a few options coming to mind

1) if noah is NOT siren resistant

VestiTU:

• vestiTU noah siren helmt jackal (assumes vestiTU is linked)

Scarlet:

• scarlet trina siren laplaceT jackal (assumes scarlet is linked)

2) if noah IS siren resistant, and you want to run without indom

• noah biscuit vestiTU rh helmt (needs 11%CS vestiTU)
• noah biscuit jackal s.anis helmt (s.anis burst lvl 9 recommended, must not have ammo OL)

3) if noah IS siren resistant and you can run indom nikke

• jackal vestiTU helmt blanc centi

4) cannot run any of the above, go for 2 burst cycles

• noah helmt jackal biscuit rh

[tropic summit]

whatdo you mean how

[covert lintel]

Usually 1 buff emi would be lost against that

[odd lantern]

question for champ arena: can rosanna target cindy if she was second highest attack, or does it target skip?

[keen vapor]

It will target decoy

[odd lantern]

thanks!

[tropic summit]

there's many variables in those:

1. crit and atk% involvment
2. nero moran got stuck hitting noah for the full length of stalling, via good usage of biscuit s2
3. nero moran caught all of emilia B3 DPS phase
4. they even got to burst with RH a second time
5. nero moran didn't get to 2nd cycle
6. are those maximun doll and running temperance? doesn't look like

[tropic summit]

rosanna targets attackers, first come first served from left to right, else defaults to p1 and p2, unless taunted

the one who targets higher atk% is helmT

[keen vapor]

Wait a minute, ros- that, what rail said

[tropic summit]

did you see chime announcement? why you didn't rename yourself yet

[keen vapor]

I'm thinking

[tropic summit]

do it fast or she's gonna make you bend over

[keen vapor]

-# No Levi banner

[tropic summit]

soon TM

[odd lantern]

it's mihara biscuit cindy + two defenders

mihara and cindy are SR15 highest cp, biscuit is SR5

[tropic summit]

ok based on this rosanna will target blanc and mihara

specifically she'll probably 1hitko mihara being p2 and likely not full health, while blanc will be invulnerable

[odd lantern]

can you elaborate please

oh ok

[mystic rain]

might hit biscuit

[odd lantern]

so if this was the attacking team she might 1hko blanc if she wasnt invuln - like if the defender is shotgun team

[tropic summit]

you can have in-depth targetting priority from this post

#pvp-arena message

[covert lintel]

I didn't know I had so many advantages
I always thought without damage taken debuff, nero moran would be unbeatable

[tropic summit]

blanc being p1 is very unlikely to not hit invulnerability within 1 or 2RL and before B1

[tropic summit]

i've indeed seen moran tank and outheal against emilia, but it depends a lot on the investiment of those 2 units

[odd lantern]

will take a look at that targetting note - seems pretty complicated

[tropic summit]

@covert lintel take this example of the opposite

#pvp-arena message

[tropic summit]

i've summed it up for you, just consider rosanna targetting priority to be on attackers, from left to right, if no attacker present it defaults to p1 or p2, if taunted it will hit anyone who taunted, up 2 to targets

[odd lantern]

so basically blanc and mihara here

[tropic summit]

yep

[odd lantern]

really hard to determine if the attacker will survive lol

[tropic summit]

target 1: scan for lineup, left to right, attacker found in p2, first target is p2
target 2: scan for lineup, left to right, no attacker found, default to p1

[odd lantern]

This is actually a better note imo

[covert lintel]

double buff but failed to bang moran

[tropic summit]

yep, the exact opposite of your match, honestly i think their nero moran were not maxed

or that emilia is ultra stacked

[odd lantern]

sorry, but which would you think will win this matchup? haha this is the only matchup I'm unsure of

left attacker

[tropic summit]

biscuit locked teams with defenders have huge advantage against SG teams, as their man source of early aggression is denied

[odd lantern]

does 4RL vs 3RL matter in this case? (attacker 4RL it seems)

[tropic summit]

in your case, you can expect this to happen:

0RL - 2RL time frame

SGs are stuck hitting p5, cannot kill and cannot snowball

around 3RL time frame, SGs will burst, most damage is soaked by p1 and p5, mihara may die to rosanna
around 4RL-5RL time frame, cindy team bursts, match is won

[odd lantern]

rosanna not likely to kill blanc even while hitting her for 3RL (prior to burst)?

interesting. Thanks a lot

[tropic summit]

full HP targets that are not ele weak can only die to a really invested rosanna

so it depends too

[odd lantern]

yeah - if she deals enough, biscuit invuln should save her or something

[tropic summit]

there's also crit involved

[tropic summit]

yep if non lethal blanc gets a biscuit s2 stack

there are some variables here and there, but biscuit locked team seems more likely to win against their SG team

even assuming blanc dies, cindy can still burst via rumani biscuit and cinderella

[odd lantern]

yeah, the rosanna doesn't seem to be superstacked either. Thanks a lot

yeah makes sense

[scarlet adder]

i heard rumors that jellyfish might buff CS... might be broken for pvp hmmmm

[onyx scaffold]

maxwell alice mana can too

[scarlet adder]

both do it during full burst, if she do it before full burst she might be different

during full burst it doesn't do much

but before it could

[onyx scaffold]

so u haven't' heard anything

[scarlet adder]

?

so you have her whole kit? can you share?

[odd lantern]

i think it's super unlikely she has a big CS buff preburst - that doesn't only break pvp lol

[onyx scaffold]

jp livestream has hosts playtest the units like previous livestream. we mainly get unit's info there. this stream shows she buffs CS during full burst

[scarlet adder]

i dunno if it must be big, even 10% would be influential probably

[scarlet adder]

aaa ok

[odd lantern]

still - it would make sbs super imba for example

and you could stack the CS too

[scarlet adder]

so she just kills alice and that's that

[onyx scaffold]

[fickle jetty]

@faint sphinx need help again

[scarlet adder]

over spec anis will kill alice in tower by the end of the year alice useless 😄

[keen vapor]

Mean now we will get Alice treasure

[tropic summit]

do you've rosanna built? can deny that with her

[scarlet adder]

it means that if they give meta unit for free prepare for their death, naga next 😄

[fickle jetty]

i can build her now

i think

[tropic summit]

she's a bit expensive of a unit

7/10/10 SR5 with around 30-40atk%, in this case you only need her with a bit of atk% and ele, 10-20% of each would do

well you can still deny that team without, a stall will do

[fickle jetty]

im not sure if i able to give her full OL gear

[gritty ridge]

What abt 7 10 10 with 15% atk

[tropic summit]

noise noah helmt laplaceT biscuit

[fickle jetty]

let me try it

[tropic summit]

very situational in that case, probably not lethal against water code full hp even

[tropic summit]

what's your noise doll lvl, is she running temperance and were you not in deficit?

you need 852k CP to not be hit by penalty

[fickle jetty]

im in 92Xk

[tropic summit]

even with split tanking getting killed within 2RL means something is wrong

[covert lintel]

The problem is, you let noise tank bsoda&siren auto

[tropic summit]

i assume noah taunt priority, if he has noise taunt priority there's no split tanking then yes he'd be dead

[odd lantern]

would moran have tanked that?

biscuit invuln

[tropic summit]

ye that also works

walled suggestion also works if noise is linked with jackal

just rewatched, he's sitting on noise taunt priority

either run moran instead or link noise with jackal should solve

[tropic summit]

strange looking v.2.0 nikke

[fickle jetty]

ya moran work for me

[fickle jetty]

[odd lantern]

congrats

[tropic summit]

valuable lesson regardless, for next times keep in mind:

• you're on noise taunt priority, this makes you siren immune if siren is ran in p1 or p2 and you're running noise and noah together
• if taunting ele advantage units, like bsoda, keep in mind noise positioning

[fickle jetty]

i always wont consider moran bc im scare of burst not fast enough

[tropic summit]

you had lappy noah and helmt here, they're all on clip RL levels (in fact helmT has her own category)

you can mess around with this app to find out your RL threshold

https://nikke-deck.web.app/

[keen vapor]

Hi nice to meet you
I'm Chimecho

[fickle jetty]

ya when i saw its lower than my opponent then idk anymore

[odd lantern]

@tropic summit can you help explain why scarlet failed here?

• scarlet has 3x atk, fully dolled and OL-ed 5/5/5/5, max skills.
• trina is 7/10/10

she even failed on a half life noah, no CP deficit in play

[tropic summit]

single buff non crit scarlet is no longer lethal against teams that are 2RL or 2.5RL resistant (B1 noise or moran), as they reduce her damage

[worthy knoll]

Opponent burst with Moran

Before B3 hit

[odd lantern]

was there a change that caused this? because I remember it used to work (vaguely)

[hollow lagoon]

[odd lantern]

in fact I have another vid on the same two guys in which it worked

[tropic summit]

if anything your opponent finally invested in their moran, but it has always been the case with noise/moran

[odd lantern]

the vid was one day before

[tropic summit]

crit could still be potentially lethal

but you're gambling at that point for it to happen

[odd lantern]

actually I can understand why she failed to kill the linked units, but noah at 60% life also survived?

that's kind of amazing

[tropic summit]

that's the power of 2RL-2.5RL with nuke resistance

you can punish it with double buff

[odd lantern]

does noise or moran provide better resistance in this scenario?

[tropic summit]

moran gives over 35% damage taken reduction buff
noise gives 10%ish after being hit 20 times, but gives you 50%+ max hp

[worthy knoll]

You would prolly have enough damage if your Soda stunned Moran instead of Jackal. From this frame, it seems your Soda burst is quicker than Moran burst since her ammo was not still unlimited at this time

[hollow lagoon]

Railtracer did you hydrate while watching the anni stream

[worthy knoll]

But well thats gambling though

[gritty ridge]

What if I also have 40% ele

[keen vapor]

Hi Merry, I'm Chimecho

[tropic summit]

at some parts i may have got a tad wet

[tropic summit]

then you're lethal on water coderino

[hollow lagoon]

I got wet when the queen fight happened

But I derped out when liberano is not water code

[tropic summit]

but well looking forward to nayuta and liberalio

[tropic summit]

they be trollin' and they know it

[hollow lagoon]

She literally caused mass rainfall and is a jelly fish

[gritty ridge]

Oh do we have the types?

Id assume liberalio is electric

[tropic summit]

hello caveman, glad you left the cave

[tropic summit]

@umbral belfry look at this man, electric even

[hollow lagoon]

No, follow shiftup logic already, sea creature=wind code

[dense kindle]

Both wind

[gritty ridge]

[keen vapor]

Hi I'm Chimecho
Nice to meet you

[gritty ridge]

At least ill finally have a wind dps

[hollow lagoon]

Man me playing sbs in co-op was cancer

[gritty ridge]

Hello chimecho

[tropic summit]

pew pew

[gritty ridge]

Should've had wasuka smh

[tropic summit]

SBS on manual is torture, imagine doing it for 2 minutes

[hollow lagoon]

3minutes it was?

[tropic summit]

oh it's 3 minutes?

[hollow lagoon]

And 4 times because my friend wanted higher score

[tropic summit]

is he still your friend after this

[odd lantern]

you should have invested wasuka lol

[hollow lagoon]

Yes

[tropic summit]

what a kind soul you are

[hollow lagoon]

Cuz I make him
Play helmT a lot

[tropic summit]

i'm surprised he's still your friend

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

Railtracer can u become my friend (to play Alice)

[gritty ridge]

So whats the chances either of the new units are pvp viable

[hollow lagoon]

Maybe the jelly fish cuz sniper

[tropic summit]

you needa wait the real kit

[gritty ridge]

No im impatient

[hollow lagoon]

Nayuta gonna have pull some weight with her kit cuz smg

Seems like she weapon change to rl or something during burst?

Wouldent know how it works

[umbral belfry]

smh

[hollow lagoon]

hime gonna change pfp to liberiano?

[odd lantern]

you could call the CEO and ask

[tropic summit]

a pilgrim, on anni? if they make her weak the community gonna assault them

[hollow lagoon]

for pvp

[tropic summit]

noone cares about pvp

the good units just happen to be accidents

[hollow lagoon]

yeh so she can suck in pvp

idk

[tropic summit]

definitely can and probably will

[hollow lagoon]

man, trina dont seem accident

looks very pvp at first glance, pve is just side gig

[tropic summit]

it's the opposite, she was meant to help scarlet do better pve dmg

the fact it also reflects on pvp is a coincidence

[hollow lagoon]

that 2 sec invuln def seems very VERY pvp

[tropic summit]

just intern kun that fell asleep on a few keys

[hollow lagoon]

hopefully they dont fell sleep too hard where chime extend crown invuln indefiantally aslong as she 's not ded

[tropic summit]

5 minutes pvp match are back

[hollow lagoon]

[umbral crown]

only 200 tix, nayuta it is

[tropic summit]

someone be lyin'

last i heard someone embraced the whel ways

[umbral crown]

my 1200 tix went to besto vesti

[tropic summit]

you're hidin' some secret stash aren't you

[umbral crown]

thats how she ended up c3

[tropic summit]

i don't trust whels and their nasty tricks

[umbral crown]

source: trust me bro

[tropic summit]

[umbral crown]

was saving for x maiden but besto vesti happened

she still 0 atk

[keen vapor]

Hi, I'm Chimecho

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

hola chimecho

[tropic summit]

[umbral crown]

0 atk 0 ammo

[keen vapor]

Holo

[umbral crown]

Meanwhile enjy the no siren stun team

[covert lintel]

She died to counter before stun

[umbral crown]

thats the point of my team

killing her before stun happens

also, Ein doing the thing

[rich ledge]

Why do I have to destroy enemy Cindy's cover before I can hit her but enemy can just hit my Cindy directly?

[keen vapor]

Schim loves hitting me everyday

I have the fear one day he will beat my defense @tropic summit

[umbral crown]

I would

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

and then we'll make a new one

[unique mountain]

Will someone gift me the nayuta birthday skin gacha

[umbral crown]

@covert lintel

[unique mountain]

[tropic summit]

best i can do is giving you some feet

[unique mountain]

[lone sequoia]

@gritty ridge a win or ff?

[rich ledge]

My team is kinda countered by umbra's team?

[onyx scaffold]

that is hard to tell but i would bet for u

where does this team come from

def not original

[umbral crown]

double sacc is the hope

[tropic summit]

double sacc

[onyx scaffold]

ik

but i see it for the first time

today

[umbral crown]

comp is waiting to be on defense against sgs

[final wadi]

Why do people use Anis tho?

[tropic summit]

low hp = easy to sacc with
high burst gen = clip RL

[onyx scaffold]

she is just a low-hp Centi

[final wadi]

With no investment required?

[onyx scaffold]

not really

it depends on how u use her

if u want to sacc her for rosanna, then u want her to be killed quickly

could anyone figure out why this guy doesn't give doll to biscuit?

[gritty ridge]

Is what

[onyx scaffold]

she doesn't need to survive??

[tropic summit]

he's just dumb

[onyx scaffold]

i wish to be as dumb as him so i could win 5 times ca

maybe it really doesn't matter

[upper grove]

Naked nayuta

[final wadi]

Out of Jackal, Noah and biscuit, which of them needs a doll? (I've been way more invested in PvE, sorry)

[tropic summit]

let's assume he's not dumb, what's the point there?

the one thing i can think of he's assuming emilia and/or vestiTU are shooting p3, which then prevent them from landing full burst gen on their 2nd shoot (if she's dead)

so at best he's trying to force a whiff

[keen vapor]

He's doing PvE order

[tropic summit]

still doesn't make much sense on a slow cindy

the only reasons where you want a unit on low DR/hp:

• sacc
• force whifs
• deny burst gen

[onyx scaffold]

not even dumb person avoid putting a doll on biscuit.
i can think 3 reasons

• he wants to save dolls
• he runs out RL dolls. Biscuit and Anis are the only units without dolls. the rest is SR15
• he feels like he is stronger than enough because he is not beaten yet

ok i lied. rumani blanc and mihara are not SR15

[tropic summit]

1st option could be
2nd option could be
3rd don't think so

but if it's just a matter of resource saving, if he's assuming in all of his comp that biscuit does not live for 2nd stack application, it makes sense

[stone mulch]

Hai, i wanna ask how can i build a good pvp team for both arena and sp arena

Usually i dont care much about building em

Just do the event content and watch str 😔

[covert lintel]

[umbral crown]

we doing the thing

wallet kun is ready

[covert lintel]

I think the illustrator is currently out of ideas, cause that skin vibe is somewhat similar to crown skin

[onyx scaffold]

for starter, owning the right units+ overloading them for cp are enough

[lone sequoia]

CA, your vesti against scarlet and another vesti

[stone mulch]

I do have most of them but dont know the right teams

[tropic summit]

show your box and we can help figure out your best teams

[stone mulch]

A sec

I dont have these

[tropic summit]

the only one hurting you a bit is lacking rumani, but if you've everything else you can make up for it

[gritty ridge]

Oh you can see my bracket? Lemme look

[tropic summit]

now post your box with nikke ordered by strength

since CP plays a huge part in what your teams can run

[stone mulch]

Uh kinna

I remember playing most when redhood release and just online to do the event after that

[glad meteor]

You skip sdoro mihara selegg?

[stone mulch]

40k gems on mihara and got nothin....

[glad meteor]

[gritty ridge]

@lone sequoia i should win this

I tested this team specifically in .work

[stone mulch]

And i didnt attend in doro ev 😭😭😭

[upper grove]

Lore reasons and fan service

[stone mulch]

And regret that

[lone sequoia]

i was asking because yesterday you had doubts about your team (group)

[gritty ridge]

Ohh, I abused my group

[lone sequoia]

good

[late tiger]

https://tenor.com/xGSu.gif

[tropic summit]

T1 jackal siren scarlet trina noir
T2 noah biscuit rh rapunzel drake
T3 centi naga vestiTU sbs liter

notes:

• put drake back into synchro
• treasure helm, laplace
• wishlist rumani
• get dolls/build biscuit, noise, trina, vestiTU
• if you've emilia hiding down there, go build her up aswell

get your teams reviewed once helm is treasured, laplace treasure will also add some variations

https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/946720097031045161

[stone mulch]

Ty 🫶

[late tiger]

if its about the 160 wall, pref you upgrade pve relevant units
drake is strong in all contents, but requires too much resources

for a SG team

not like you can choose what units you get as beginner though

[umbral belfry]

never

[hollow lagoon]

Pull nyuta to mlb, mlb chime, mlb liberiano, redeem all the liter, get Drake from villan path, break 160 wall

[hollow lagoon]

Ur were happier when u were arcana

[umbral crown]

@eager mountain if i do not see you with C7 libe imma get dissapointed

[hollow lagoon]

Wow brave c7 libe

Imma settle for mlb

Maybe c1 /c2 if lucky

[umbral crown]

then wishlist the rest

[hollow lagoon]

I could use more fish tho

[umbral crown]

would you

[hollow lagoon]

Would I?

[tropic summit]

says the guy who's gonna C7 anyway

[hollow lagoon]

Nope

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/i-know-what-kind-of-man-you-are-moist-i-know-what-kind-of-mand-you-are-gif-4332896312672829230

[hollow lagoon]

I never pull core 7

[umbral crown]

he tix them

[tropic summit]

these whels

[umbral crown]

[hollow lagoon]

If I pull core 7 than how do u explain core 1 sdoro

[tropic summit]

indeed, shame on you

[umbral crown]

lack of motivation

[shell hazel]

fish man!

[tropic summit]

how could u not c7 this is beyond me

[umbral crown]

when i used summer doro as profile i won CA, thats a sign for you

[hollow lagoon]

I like fish more

[shell hazel]

@hollow lagoon no tenshi this season looks like they died in quals?

[tropic summit]

but do her ass cheeks clap that hard?

[hollow lagoon]

No clue

[hollow lagoon]

I like them slim and fish

[tropic summit]

although liberalio shooting pos was sus

[hollow lagoon]

Jelly fish is not true fish

[shell hazel]

I recorded my CA runs btw, the ones vs the guy that beat you before zanta were interesting

[hollow lagoon]

Rail got beat?

Wot?

Or was the guy that beat me

[late tiger]

railgot railed

[umbral crown]

rail did not cook this season

[shell hazel]

apparently so according to taarn

[umbral crown]

i was looking for him but could not find

[hollow lagoon]

Rail got took out

[tropic summit]

my effort in CA is near non existant

s.anis into scarlet
scarlet into noah
helmt into bay
weak SG into mirror SG
the only team that won was chinnit cindy team

[shell hazel]

only my Railgun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_sQUK418mM

[hollow lagoon]

U didnt’s kiss the fish good night and fed the fish in the morning ur faith was found wanting

[umbral belfry]

LMFAO she's still my wife

[tropic summit]

fish lookin' sus

[hollow lagoon]

[umbral crown]

[umbral belfry]

[hollow lagoon]

Fake fish

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/946719897390563328/1381694109735190600/clideo_editor_c4e3ec3047e0448594ca7d78c39f9192.gif

[tropic summit]

i cooked but my CA experience is either you top 16, top 4 or end at qualifiers

[hollow lagoon]

I keep dying at top 64 it got annoying

[umbral crown]

but our meeting was just a coinicidence of the life

[tropic summit]

statistically it can happen again

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

free win for you in that case

[umbral crown]

[hollow lagoon]

Wait Yonexxi took out rail?

[shell hazel]

my matches, qual 1 is the most interesting one (top one)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxcptQZFnhc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqtZRFXh8-Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaR66q2GAjg

[tropic summit]

rosy is true pvp main, i'm shooting range main

[umbral crown]

not really

[shell hazel]

this is why mihara isn't great at p5 on slow cindy

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/get-real-real-get-real-naar-fan-fake-naar-fan-kaden-gif-23539480

[umbral crown]

just once, i was also cheering for him to win but things did not go as i expected

now i have a chance to meet my friendo Weij

[hollow lagoon]

He didn’t eat nuff fish

[tropic summit]

we goin' to eat a lot of fish soon at least

there's noway they make liberalio weak

[umbral crown]

going for loser frame sometimes is hard

[shell hazel]

wind code fish units can't wait 😄

soda vs ros

[hollow lagoon]

Jelly fish

https://tenor.com/view/jelly-fish-stevo-sombrero-ow-gif-12303006

[umbral crown]

now i have my friendo waiting for me, he knows the snipe is coming

https://tenor.com/view/owari-no-seraph-shinoa-hiragi-anime-powers-gif-17896115

[hollow lagoon]

Why is this discord discriminating

I’m China born my self

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

there is a guy in my bit who's union is just called china lol

[umbral crown]

rude

[hollow lagoon]

China hu-nan

[eager mountain]

I got enough rocks but rng might f it up

[umbral crown]

my cn friendo is awake at this time, must not be easy but i know he is there waiting

[hollow lagoon]

It’s the Covid leak city

[umbral crown]

but what about gems

[eager mountain]

Ye I mean gems

[hollow lagoon]

I have

[shell hazel]

taarn got a different booba guy next

[hollow lagoon]

Weird

My next matchup is ?????

[umbral crown]

i had that amount during besto vesti banner but they are gone

[umbral crown]

if anything wallet kun will back you up

[eager mountain]

certainly I’ll give my $1 to su after decades not doing so since they finally release her

1040tic 230k gem should do

[umbral crown]

waos

it should indeed

[hollow lagoon]

What I need to do… mlb nyuta, mlb liberiano, mlb Xlude if she rerun, possibly pull xmica, mlb whatever the new winter limited unit gonna be……. MLB OS Anis

[umbral crown]

xlude not gonna rerun anytime soon

xmica also

[hollow lagoon]

Well sad

[umbral crown]

im gonna reset xmica tho

[hollow lagoon]

Why u be mean to me, im just a fish loving man

[umbral crown]

just the truth

[hollow lagoon]

I need to cry to my fish

[umbral crown]

summons siren

[hollow lagoon]

I am become fish blub of water

[cunning crown]

[shell hazel]

how do you think it looks? people just snow ball on levels usually

[hollow lagoon]

If me and snotty dies there’s sti you hippo

Your are our final hope

The true PvP main

The longest fish

The thickest slice of sashimi

[shell hazel]

the one with the most scales

[hollow lagoon]

Yes

Wait no you tricked me

I have more mermaid dupes I have more scales

oh noes tis reset

he tricks me again

[wise horizon]

thanks but biscuit is used twice

[shell hazel]

damn biscuit always getting cloned 😄

[lethal karma]

is this possible?

[shell hazel]

@gritty ridge your student is here

[tropic summit]

noise noah trina helmt laplaceT

[tropic summit]

so many bigbois around lately, he must've reproduced

[shell hazel]

it's all that personal finance he's doing

[nimble swan]

They are giving me this much chance despite opponent having alice on t1

[tropic summit]

assemble this team and take a new SS (you're on the left)

[lethal karma]

both rumani and biscuit are barely invested

should i do the minimum of 4/4/4 for each's skills?

[tropic summit]

you're in range, can run that team

[shell hazel]

15% deficit to take any stat penalty

well, 15.4% anyway. opponent cp * 0.846

[tropic summit]

against 103k you can go down to 87k CP without penality, so you're good to go

rumani with biscuit will soak all enemy alice dmg

and you shouldn't kill her pre 3RL

[lethal karma]

so i can just go now without giving some skill mats into them

[tropic summit]

even if you do, privaty with liter and trina buff isn't lethal

and you'll get alice on ultra lifesteal

she'll wipe alone

[tropic summit]

ye run it, if you wanna go ahead and record it

[lethal karma]

oh yea that did it, wow thanks @tropic summit @shell hazel

[wind kelp]

I mean, considering i self-cooked teams (sorta) and didn't have optimal stuffs, not bad i feel 😄

[tropic summit]

yep looks about right

you didn't even need alice to DPS, as vesti deleted them early on

[eager mountain]

theres another bigboi

[tropic summit]

not as big as the other boi tho

[lethal karma]

where can i get this spreadsheet

[shell hazel]

what is this? 😄

[eager mountain]

define big in this scenario

[cunning crown]

3-4 could go either way but I like 1-2 for me, could use your insight when you're on tho

[tropic summit]

burst gen spreadsheets
#pvp-arena message

[shell hazel]

you should win 1 they're campaign cp pad, but you'll just burst quicker if someone dies and ros is lethal

[tropic summit]

that is a guaranteed anti nuke with noise link and vestiTU nuke + DPS, which can potentially go 2 cycles

although noah noise bay and jackal in the same team means other teams are naked

[shell hazel]

t2 is quicker cindy vs slower cindy can be rng, but if you get to b3 with cindy will win

[shell hazel]

yes my point was bay isn't really doing much here 😄

[valid inlet]

Oops nice to meet you again

[tropic summit]

i think the lad was concerned for a soda/siren

[shell hazel]

still you win t3 taarn

[tropic summit]

bay ensures if noah is stunned or killed they still get anti nuke

but ye might aswell replace noah there with rumani or flex b1 and just leave bay do the task alone

[lone sequoia]

if noise linked only vesti can kill noah

or you can nuke the team... but noise b1

[shell hazel]

I fail to see how you can lose this in general, some rng on t2 with the cindy vs cindy, but rest you look better on for me

[wild hemlock]

It's a bit too early for my liking I wanted to see how my comps did with some changes and would suck to lose so fast

[shell hazel]

they do happen to have siren on p3 but she won't get taunted by noah or anything, so she'll maybe stun noise but jackal b1 anyway

check my qual 1 matches for how the teams that won last CA went taarn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxcptQZFnhc

[nimble swan]

This team was born out of my frustration
I didn’t know where to put noah, at least i’m not getting beaten by soda scar
I’m bricked with lb0 vesti, probably would lose all mirror matches
I tried to fit in Ada but she messes with jackal link.

[shell hazel]

@tropic summit I'd like you to put a watch in also, especially for:
t1 - mihara p5 proving a liability vs SG on def
t2 - mirror vesti noise jackal
t5 - my biscuit got sniped?

atk biscuit fail?

[tropic summit]

@swift mango another of your disciples with biscuit 40% atk

[valid inlet]

I am only certain about the results of t4,5, the rest can go either ways I am curious to see the results of trio vs Noise Noah Besti

[wise horizon]

this is one tough opponent...

[cunning crown]

ada gang

surely I don't regret brooming maiden here

[tropic summit]

ok T1 is cleared but T3 is very curious... their helmT sniped your... CINDY HAS MORE ATK% THAN MIHARA?!

we need a bait attacker that has more attack than cindy... what do you've? @wise horizon

can have poor burst gen (in fact the worse the better), i'm thinking alice, you can just swap her out with midhara and run the same team

[shell hazel]

atk cindy?

[nimble swan]

Yeah this is kinda what I plan to run next. But need CS on rumani to make noah bisc 2.5RL

[shell hazel]

I'm still overloading mihara 🙁

2/4 done but no rocks spent

so yeah bisc has more atk % overloads also

[hollow lagoon]

lol, full dolling your biscuit failed u

[tropic summit]

suffering from success

[shell hazel]

[hollow lagoon]

Man managed to get 1 full set of pilgrim attack gear, jellyfish gear is set

[wise horizon]

RapiRH and SBS has higher attack stat and attack % on their OL than Cindy.

[bleak marsh]

majority gets it

[wild hemlock]

Who wins 4 and 5? I've seen shotguns vs scarlet go both ways so I never know

[tropic summit]

rrh or alice can work

[hollow lagoon]

Cheer up look on the bright side

[shell hazel]

i'll likely get it if it's pass skin

[hollow lagoon]

It is

Since hood one is the gatcha

[tropic summit]

those are 2 beautiful shoes

[hollow lagoon]

Yes sir

[shell hazel]

what shoes?

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

The heels

[shell hazel]

I don't see any

[hollow lagoon]

The trip hazard

[tropic summit]

Hippo is still confused cuz all he sees are cheeks

[tropic summit]

reasonable

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-jarvis-meme-enhance-gif-10207712088460034302

[hollow lagoon]

I might skip the redhood one?

[shell hazel]

skiperooni tbh

for me didn't even realise it was a gacha skin

[hollow lagoon]

But the nayuta one I’m getting for sure

[shell hazel]

nayuta one at least looks legit - still too expensive but I'm prob gonna get it anyway

[hollow lagoon]

The fish one I’m getting but not wearing

[bleak marsh]

nayuta skin

[shell hazel]

pass skin I tend to do for the pulls tbh

[nimble swan]

I actually liked nayuta default better

[shell hazel]

her default is cool also tbh

[hollow lagoon]

Camel smelly

[nimble swan]

But yeah now that now that i look at it again, not bad

[bleak marsh]

ngl, i woke up and saw this, and thought it was "wu wa" and i was like " wuwa collabing with nikke"

i am illiterate

[shell hazel]

but if you didn't want to burn money, then nayuta default still looks great

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-gif-19649071

[nimble swan]

I will surely get the crown one

And idk, might get another one, will see

[hollow lagoon]

That crown one is peak royalty

[shell hazel]

so need pilgrim support + attacker sets then

[hollow lagoon]

I have 2 sets of support not worried

Managed to scrap together a set of attack just now

Thx coop

Left over bones from re event

[nimble swan]

I hope we get double packages in shop , so i can get another selector until then

[shell hazel]

yeah I have plenty of selectors trying to get a piglrim attacker helm from ultra before anni lands but if not then I'll just use one of my selector crates

[hollow lagoon]

I scrounged 20 meth, it ain’t much but it’s what I got

Hopefully nayuta don’t sniff them all

[shell hazel]

i'll build nayuta some, basic OL on asuka W at the least, and with next raid likely being wind weak my SBS really needs some work to re-roll for ele and atk rolls

unsure if I can 3% again but maybe

liberalio probably somewhat basic build also

[hollow lagoon]

I don’t think I have gear do for asuka w, I oled Xanne for the CA, slight regret but I made it pass advance

[shell hazel]

if I could break gear down into the xp things I could tell but who knows

no idea if I have enough here or not lol

[cunning crown]

no regrets, the right choice was made

[nimble swan]

I planned to debut top 3% this SR.
But I definitely won’t be able to properly OL 2 new units

[shell hazel]

best value return on rocks/gear is basic OL anyway

[shell hazel]

surplus rocks for better roll attempts

[hollow lagoon]

It ain’t much

[nimble swan]

I pray for default ele atk

[hollow lagoon]

But it’s what I got

[shell hazel]

mostly what we need to start with, and prob a little ammo 🙂

[hollow lagoon]

Unless it’s a antiammo

[shell hazel]

I can tank my SBS cp a bit for more effective rolls

[hollow lagoon]

Thous are the rock eaters

[shell hazel]

not like I use her in much else outside raids or the odd campaign stage that needs her (volleyball)

[hollow lagoon]

Sbs? U don’t kraken?

[shell hazel]

I can almost s9 kraken without her, so with nayuta/liberalio/asuka W it should be done

no my rapi does more dmg, my SBS rolls are trash

[nimble swan]

I buried like 150 rocks in SBS, still needs one more ele

[hollow lagoon]

I recall like 5moth ago that I ur sbs was 1 ele

[shell hazel]

it is

not even a good phase

[hollow lagoon]

I redid my sbs to 3 atk 2 ele

It ain’t much but it does work

I can mobile clear kraken now

[shell hazel]

almost all my SBS stuff needs rolls

[hollow lagoon]

How tf do u people get line 3s

Like so easily

[shell hazel]

it's not it's rng 30% chance on any new gear

[nimble swan]

I just need to trade that ammo line on line 1 for ele and im done

[shell hazel]

30-40% atk and 80% ele is basically all SBS would need if you're not hyper maxing her

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit its time to made new def teams,btw heres my current vesti build

125k cp rn

[shell hazel]

7/10/10, don't bother with her skill 1 more

[tropic summit]

1 more CS% line and she's usable

[nimble swan]

Yeah i’ll be happy with that

[warm monolith]

Yeah,no ol gear rn tho

[hollow lagoon]

That’s some insane rolls ur trying to achieve sir

[shell hazel]

I don't think it's that bad if you don't care about anything else

it gets harder the more other lines you want

[hollow lagoon]

I don’t have a single 4 ele unit

And I don’t have a single 4 atk unit

[shell hazel]

you spread out to more units though

[hollow lagoon]

Much less them together

Of course I spread my legs more, wait you tricked me again

[shell hazel]

fishy!

[hollow lagoon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/946719897390563328/1430591574122696835/ezgif-8198118d87c810.gif

[shell hazel]

[shell hazel]

I dunno if I'd hyper-fixate on her CS tbh, it depends what you're doing

[warm monolith]

Heres my old kit i found,not too old just some lvls more@tropic summit i need def teams,i drop down to 17th place:(

[hollow lagoon]

I can’t believe we just gonna rizz jellyfish into the harem

[tropic summit]

11%CS is a must've to ensure the juicy 2.3RL

[lone sequoia]

2 black lines is good

[shell hazel]

can get with 2 rolls if you get some blue lines

I stuck at 9% for now 😄

[lone sequoia]

for vesti just focus on atk+ 2 cs+ele dmg and crit rate

[shell hazel]

I rolled mine a lot but happy with her rolls atm

[hollow lagoon]

Insane vesti investment

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/vesti-nikke-nikke-goddess-of-victory-gif-6999906611543065394

[lone sequoia]

some teams need higher cs to reach 2RL with vesti 3rd shot but dmg should be better

[hollow lagoon]

I put like 12 or 15 rocks into her I’m done

[lone sequoia]

unless you trade vesti against vesti

[shell hazel]

in-vesti-ment

is in the name

[shell hazel]

think my superior vesti won that exact thing today

[lone sequoia]

speed check?

[shell hazel]

https://youtu.be/PxcptQZFnhc?si=RLueSC2i2xcaMGss&t=51

this match mirror comp

[warm monolith]

Was missing one copy of crown,no more:D

[hollow lagoon]

My vesti can chuck ammo for days

[tropic summit]

start with these 3

[shell hazel]

am glad that nayuta is a b2 btw I was in desperate need of some more good b2's

even if she creeps crown

[cunning crown]

will pay big bucks to trade your blue ammo line for my black CD

[hollow lagoon]

Imma gonna be good and do what @tropic summit told me when I was but a child, stop investing in ca

[warm monolith]

Why centi as burst 2 on t1

[cunning crown]

[tropic summit]

grave, bade, mari, anchor/mmast not enough for you uh

[lone sequoia]

bay p3- p4 you got more time with bay cover

[shell hazel]

bade doko?

[tropic summit]

a reasonable decision

[tropic summit]

you skipped?!

[shell hazel]

I may have done

[hollow lagoon]

Jesus how much rocks u put into that

[warm monolith]

Do you guys think nayuta would be a better burst 2 then crown?

[tropic summit]

what in the world... , not even I'd dare skip that one

[shell hazel]

you're swimming in gems though

[tropic summit]

i really don't wanna hear that from you

[shell hazel]

collecting them

[warm monolith]

No moran build

[hollow lagoon]

Ye he has to use Blanc for that last raid

[shell hazel]

how many gems you got? 😄

[tropic summit]

well time to build her, you can use noise until she's ready

[cunning crown]

like 15-20, got VERY lucky on some bold locks

[nimble swan]

How many rocks did you feed her?

[tropic summit]

what a mad lad

[tropic summit]

enough to buy a villa and crown's castle

[hollow lagoon]

He spent like 5 more than me and get significantly better unit

[nimble swan]

Lolol

[warm monolith]

No build noise too Like,not even a lvl 1 armors

[copper creek]

fund me pls ty

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

i only accept sugar mommies

[lone sequoia]

bay c6 and no moran/noise?

wait, cb 6 xd

[shell hazel]

wut da hell!

[leaden canyon]

Btw rail I never got to test that team because he changed his defense again lmao

[tropic summit]

wow that's sad, change it to this then

[cunning crown]

[tropic summit]

well the one i gave you would've won, he probably read chat and changed it

[warm monolith]

I have the mats to make her cb7 sir ,im just not cuz rail advices me to go for a tove treasure

[leaden canyon]

the other one I think is vulneable to 1.4rl scar, let me screen shot it

[tropic summit]

pve is more important than pvp

and that comes from a shooting range main

[shell hazel]

whale sync 439 now btw zanta, I'm 411 - they get a level every 2 days or so, so I think by the time they jump 441 I can get new chapters hopefully and jump 421

[warm monolith]

Bay is important-er

[tropic summit]

true waifu believer

[lone sequoia]

bay is important if you have the units to use with her...

[keen vapor]

Rail, I got sniped 10 minutes before reset

[hollow lagoon]

Bro not saving crates for anni, loses in long run

[shell hazel]

they may not be

[warm monolith]

I will go w her myself

[leaden canyon]

Ignore the attacking teams, I attacked somebody else with it

[shell hazel]

I hope they get despair seeing me gap them right back into 20 ish gap again 😄

[hollow lagoon]

Not possible to level at these syncs per 2 days and save crates for anni

[warm monolith]

Btw in T1 centi is in p3 and blanc is in p4 @tropic summit

[tropic summit]

oh he kept the vesti emi lappy one though

[warm monolith]

Should i do that?

[tropic summit]

he's still running copium scarlet tho

[leaden canyon]

oh wait those are the wrong screen shots somehow

wtf where did they go

[tropic summit]

oh oke that explains it

[tropic summit]

ye that's fine on the assumption they punishing your blanc with a vestiTU

[hollow lagoon]

Oh shiet I better do them towers

[tropic summit]

vestiTU can hit up to p3 and on ele weak if against blanc, can delete her pre 2RL B2

[wise horizon]

something like this?

[tropic summit]

yup looks good

give it a shot again when you can and record, this time you'll burst with cindy as alice will get sniped instead

midhara was supposed to get killed and pop her DoT to contribute dmg but we can't use her until you fix her atk% OL

[slate falcon]

Laplace incoming

[gritty ridge]

Rail my rosa is allergic to attack lines

[leaden canyon]

there

[warm monolith]

Allright,just to be clear the teams are
T1 664k cp
Jackal 129k vesti 130k centi 121k blanc 135k tlap 147k

T2 720k
TBay 183k trina 91k thelm 172k rap 136k tdrake 135k

T3 698k
Rumani 124k noah 107k biscuit 122k siren 162k cindy 181k

[gritty ridge]

Shes rolled 12 ele lines on the same piece but no atk

[warm monolith]

Im gonna actually build pvp units when middle east ver comes out

[tropic summit]

what in the world is he running instead of copium scarlet

[tropic summit]

ye looks good

[tropic summit]

that sounds like a YOU problem, clearly you can control RNG and give you the right OL lines

[gritty ridge]

So true

[shell hazel]

just roll better triple black lines should only take 1 additional rock

[leaden canyon]

tbf I'm not entirly sure where I should send my scar

[gritty ridge]

Ive seen 3 blue ammo lines on her

[warm monolith]

Btw what cube for vesti?

I forgot to equip one

[leaden canyon]

I think even with 1.4rl scar nuke moran burst would still prevent me from one shotting p1

[wise horizon]

ok. i will give it a go

this is a different fight and i won before but my T2 lost this time. maybe i was just unlucky?

[tropic summit]

who's linked in this? run it in shooting range

[tropic summit]

T2 you're running siren in p2 against noise and noah, noise and noah will both taunt siren, but the one on lowest CS% will be the taunt priority.

if opponent is smart, he has noise taunt priority, which will negate your stun on noah

to get rid of that you can move siren in p3, then she can no longer be taunted and will default to p1, which is enemy noah

[leaden canyon]

left one rosanna and helm linked, right one would be vesti and lap

[tropic summit]

hmmmmmmm

[wise horizon]

ok. then i will swap Trina to pos2 and Siren to pos3 and see how it goes

[tropic summit]

and what's your CP if you ran this?

check with any flex attacker instead of midhara if unbuilt/low CP (alice, RRH, RH, ein etc)

[leaden canyon]

so with that its this

[tropic summit]

too far from their CP

[quartz rover]

[tropic summit]

need 1.8kk for their nero moran

[leaden canyon]

oh I can fix that with cubes

[tropic summit]

you can sub midhara for any flex attacker on high CP too

[tropic summit]

welp their T1 is unchallengable

that's annoying as it can go unpunished

[leaden canyon]

Liter rapu jackal trina scarlet?

[tropic summit]

dunno if you're lethal with that

does it even meet CP requirement?

[leaden canyon]

I have killed a cp deficit team with that before but tbf I dont think I had to deal with moran burst while deficit

[tropic summit]

yeh

that's asking for a lot

[leaden canyon]

trina 4/10/10 and a 10 liter burst and scar 10 in everything

[umbral crown]

just... open it

[leaden canyon]

scar also only has 6.18% attack overload

she mostly has ele and ammo

[tropic summit]

ye noway that's lethal

[umbral crown]

but are you

now hows the life without creed

[tropic summit]

check CP for T2 and CS% for T3 if you're 2.5RL

[tropic summit]

i've been getting 3k gems since 2 seasons thanks to him afking 3rd rank without being active

but i suppose with reshuffle coming i won't be seeing him anymore

[umbral crown]

use him as a wall

probably

[tropic summit]

yep pretty much

[umbral crown]

3k jims is all that matters

[tropic summit]

more gems to throw at jellyfish and resurrection lady

[umbral crown]

nayuta all the way

cuz she has gacha skin

we gonna flex her next CA using her in profile

[gritty ridge]

Wait are we getting chime?

[slate falcon]

Yes

[umbral crown]

si

for free

[umbral crown]

i do not have to force echo to c7 her

[leaden canyon]

Thats the cp

[umbral crown]

no bad

[gritty ridge]

So clearly chime is gonna triple all of crowns buffs right?

[slate falcon]

I think if chime doesn’t heal and only buff Atk in a crown team nobody will be using her over helmT, Naga or Mana

[gritty ridge]

Mana???

Who uses mana

[slate falcon]

Yes Mana

[leaden canyon]

better pic that this teams cp, didn't notice it got cut off

[slate falcon]

Y’all dont use her?

[umbral crown]

or you mean mmast

[slate falcon]

Mana

[tropic summit]

you're in range on both

give it a shot i guess

[gritty ridge]

The standard team comp is crown, siren, rh, rrh, mmast/t.helm

Ive never seen anyone use mana

[slate falcon]

Y’all sleeping on my my Mana

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

the team vs their jackal vestiTU emilia blanc is

[gritty ridge]

[tropic summit]

if that team is 1621k you're NOT in range, so flex as needed the attacker, blanc biscuit rumani and cindy are core

[shell hazel]

welfare chime is going to be meh 🙁

[leaden canyon]

Right now doing this right?

[gritty ridge]

Im just curious wtf mana is doing offburst

Her buffs and healing are bad

[leaden canyon]

she has a rez

it goes off when somebody dies

so if shes off burst thats probably why

[gritty ridge]

Yeah but like, thats not worth losing a massive amount of dmg

[tropic summit]

nope

[wind kelp]

lifts paw Mana "main" here as well 😄

[tropic summit]

both need around 1.7kk

[unborn shuttle]

question, what does each of these nikkes need as cubes?

just realized i had them on blank

[tropic summit]

noah temperance
biscuit vigor
cindy any
helmt any
rumani any

ein any
anchor any
rh any
centi quantum
jackal quantum

sbs any
s.anis any
blanc vigor
rapu vigor
laplaceT any

[wind kelp]

Mana also works in pvp in certain situations, for example if they kill your burst 2 just after your burst 1 goes off, she can get B2 up (like noah) at a perfect time.

[unborn shuttle]

and this too ig since theres a few diff chars

[leaden canyon]

well wait both use biscuit

[slate falcon]

This gonna be my first time pull on a gacha skin

[tropic summit]

oh we need to indom T3 then

[unborn shuttle]

got it, and the message i replied too please, since theres apparently diff chars

[unborn shuttle]

thats almost no clothes wth

[tropic summit]

sub laplaceT for centi if vestiTU isn't linked

[shell hazel]

12+ game sfw version

[tropic summit]

naga any
siren temperance
trina any
rumani any
cindy any

noah temperance
biscuit vigor
ein any
rh any
xmaiden quantum

midhara any
laplaceT any
helmt any
blanc vigor
rapunzel vigor

[unborn shuttle]

fr

[unborn shuttle]

got it, thanks!

[leaden canyon]

both teams you gave me also use blanc

[lone sequoia]

CA season?

[tropic summit]

oh ye slow cindy uses biscuit AND blanc

this guy is so annoying on requirements and gapping

[leaden canyon]

Yeahhh

[tropic summit]

could punish with siren now that i look at it, it's 2.5RL noah in p1

[leaden canyon]

I wonder if t1 dies from noah biscuit helm hood rumani

[leaden canyon]

Just super charged helm shots

[tropic summit]

if you're on deficit, their moran can solo your team

since she'll lifesteal more than you damage her

the scar team i imagine you're also 2.5RL via CS%

if you're, you're good to go

the only issue is if cindy makes it in time to cast, then you'll get out traded via invulnerable units

either way getting T2 to win is already a good hint

T3 should be weak to stall moran noah helmt rapu rh in case scarlet doesn't work

[leaden canyon]

scar team is 2.5 if I throw 3 quantums on

[tropic summit]

scar needs to be above 1.638k

looks like you're in range

[tropic summit]

oke nice, pray cindy doesn't make it in time

[leaden canyon]

Thats still 2.5 with scar s2 right?

[tropic summit]

ye you get 3% minimun from feed

and any extra 0.33% from counters

[leaden canyon]

ok cool I can keep a resilience on siren for more cp then

ik t1 will lose but w/e

[tropic summit]

out of range of just 200k, sadge (T1)

[quartz rover]

Will the guy with mlb sbs and rh gem? We'll find out next episode

[tropic summit]

but ye ready to go record and yolo T3

[leaden canyon]

welp he just got attacked

onto the next guy

the next guy

at least no cp issues

[tropic summit]

this one is pretty straight forward

can sub centi for flex attacker as long as scarlet remains linked

you can even add a siren instead of centi since they feed you to 2RL anyway

[short plaza]

hello I wanted to use biscuit on my first team but apparently I need noah for her who's I'm already using in my second team, is there any way I could do this without hurting either teams performance?

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad?uid=MjkwODAtMTQ5NDIzMjYyNzQwOTAyMDQ4OTY%3D

[leaden canyon]

damn blanc and miahra feed that much?

[short plaza]

bla so it's easier to see all my nikkes

[tropic summit]

it's 8%+ all the counter %

high procc since high fire rate weapons

and since they're slow team, you can afford being 2.5RL

[tropic summit]

highly suggest you bench anchorIM for biscuit, the other team is fine being biscuitless because jackal distributes dmg
also suggest bursting with vestiTU instead of SBS if she's invested, instant nuke gives you far more threat than DPS B3 (SBS)

[short plaza]

would vesti be fine if her skills are at 777? everything else is maxed with her and thanks I'll try swapping out anchor then, but noise and rumani wouldn't interfere with biscuit right?

[tropic summit]

noise is a supporter, rumani is a defender, only rumani would get invulnerable via biscuit

[tropic summit]

as for vesti ye she's fine, give her CS% and atk% OLs when you can, aim for 11%CS and 20+atk%

[short plaza]

also I want to get scarlet eventually so which of these teams would be better for her

[tropic summit]

the jackal one and you'd need to give her double buff or at least trina to be lethal

[short plaza]

yeah that's very doable thanks for the help

[short plaza]

actually for the noah team does position matter? or should I just plop biscuit in anchors spot without changing anything

[tropic summit]

biscuit is preferable not being p5, because she can get sniped on ele advantage by things like RH

as for noah it's preferable she's p1 or p5 on teams slower than 2RL

at the same time you don't want noah p1 if you're expecting the enemy to run siren and you don't have your team on 11%CS team wide

in your case you're not 2RL, so noah in any position but p1 and p5 would taunt enemy RLs to hit 3 nikkes over 2, giving them more burst gen

for the time being, regardless

noise noah cindy biscuit rumani is fine

[short plaza]

I didn't know that would happen thanks for the tip I think it'll help with my future teams as well

[tropic summit]

you welcome

[leaden canyon]

btw he pretty much copied the other guys team but the sg team isn't cp gaping me so it can get 1.4rl nuked probably

[tropic summit]

lmao

gives us a test run at least

beware that slow cindy is direct counter to nero moran stall

get something that nukes on double buff against their slow cindy

[leaden canyon]

oh yeah these attacking teams are not for this guy

I just never changed them

[tropic summit]

scar rh jack can stay for their SG team, slow cindy can stay for their vestiTU team

[leaden canyon]

I might be able to use mihara for it against this guy

[nimble swan]

May I ask how this works? Every SR/RL in the team without an exception needs to have at least 11% CS? What if someone like Vesti has 18%?

[tropic summit]

t1 needs 1498k
t2 needs 1583k
t3 needs 1549k

[leaden canyon]

yeah its fine

[tropic summit]

essentially every unit that you need to hit 2RL also needs to be 11%CS (or faster), because your team is as fast as your slowest unit that helps you hitting the threshold

[leaden canyon]

[tropic summit]

ye looks good

[nimble swan]

I see, thx!

[leaden canyon]

btw for defense do you like this or with hood instead of noise

[tropic summit]

with RH it increases odds of being lethal, without RH they can facetank it with 2.5RL with moran/noise

[leaden canyon]

yeah thats what I thought

I switched to this and they stopped attacking me so idk if it works or not

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

[leaden canyon]

at least scar team bursts way before a lot of other teams and the vesti team is actually 2.5

Cheeky rapu stun too

[lunar pawn]

@leaden marten check SPA
how long ago did you lose the rank to ledpipe btw? did he waste both of his attacks on you or?

[umbral crown]

steals dair s cook

[leaden canyon]

The vesti team was cooked in here by somebody else and I stole the scar team from an enemy lol

scar team is like 1.6RL

[umbral crown]

the thieves of pvp channel

and if helm high cs even better

let me put that, nothing to lose

[leaden canyon]

well the team was cooked for me so I didn't steal it haha

[umbral crown]

i steal it from you, please and thanks

[leaden canyon]

the only thing thats worrying is the sbs team

also the vesti team is only 2.5 if you have enough cs btw

otherwise its 3RL

[tropic summit]

sbs indom and glass cannon scarlet? doesn't feel particularly difficult unless you're seeing something i don't

[umbral crown]

i just wanna give the my friendo cn something different

[tropic summit]

[umbral crown]

[leaden canyon]

because in most cases scar b3 goes off before a noah b2 does

if they dont know about 1.6RL speeds then it screws them over

[tropic summit]

but it assumes they also don't have CS%

and your opponents clearly do

[umbral crown]

i like to use weird cooks for a change

[tropic summit]

1.6RL scar won't B3 before enemy on same CS% and threshold

[leaden canyon]

if they want to out speed it then they have to resort to sending lots of resorces to it such as noah, biscuit and helm

[tropic summit]

ye but your other 2 teams can be kited or stalled, so it's not particularly punishing, in fact they could skip scar team

unlike your opponent that forces your hand with gapping and onto 2 strong overall teams

then again maybe it works on those below you, which is fine

[leaden canyon]

I mean yes there are arguments to all that but no defnese is perfect and all the standard defense teams dont work so you try something else and I stopped getting attacked because I think they may not know how to get around this combo

[tropic summit]

got it, sounds reasonable enough

until broken you could say it works

[umbral crown]

yeah

[leaden canyon]

also yes to this

the guys below me are trying

[earnest rune]

imagine wasting gems on Rookie Arena hits

[umbral crown]

thats what matters

[leaden canyon]

could be testing teams

I do it sometimes for that

[umbral crown]

8 hits does nt seem like testing

well 9

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/horimiya-ayasaki-remi-anime-anime-girl-sad-gif-6527368778542394772

[earnest rune]

this guy attacks me everyday already and my team hasn't change in months lol

[umbral crown]

it means they have enough gems for anni so doing that in rookie for fun

or to send a message

[earnest rune]

yeah, probably a message of seething

[tropic summit]

the message: i'll get you... tomorrow"

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

I did that for a while when I figured out a comp to take down the top1, I was like, you are done in now kekkkekkeekke

[tropic summit]

bully

[hollow lagoon]

Bro couldn’t take it after a month and stopped trying

Cuz I didn’t change my def so he don’t know what I’m using to break his rookie

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

And then shortly after I became the first person in my bracket with helmT and its hell on earth from there

[tropic summit]

knowledge is power in this game pvp

[hollow lagoon]

Friendship