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5%, 11%, and 20% i believe are her breakpoints
T1: 700k against 811k
T2: 705k against 757k,im the lower ones
5% is her minimum, 11% lets you have b1 sirenproof on noise noah, 20% is 2 shots before b2 iirc
I currently have 8.96% on her(two ol) ill try to get her to 11% min and then focus on atk and max ammo
Also she is 110k now
No cube,i need one for her too
Prob wingman
CP is fine in both... last info how built is your vestiTU?
if she's at least 4 OL pieces, even with crap OL, she can be used in case
No cube,except a lvl 7 wingman in pvp
Fix that
ok she's not usable yet
I got her just 4 days ago man,im gonna:(
Im tryna get a arm piece for her,no luck so far
Also i need a co op so i can get bones
@warm monolith who's linked in this btw, run it in shooting range
(scarlet blanc siren helmt jackal)
hmm alrighty, was hoping it was helmT but it shouldn't matter for the purpose of that team
you can use helmt instead of centi 
Helmt and siren gets the jumping jackal
Werent you asking for jumping jackal buff?
yes and one assumes you've it on scarlet, but oh well
scarlet blanc siren centi jackal it is
What can i do,i have a atk siren
@gritty ridge U on NA?
Yes
Oh,aight
final draft, can run 3rd team too
@tropic summit btw i have anne too but is she not used in SP?
won't need her here
I actually did tBay/trina/thelm/vesti/rumani myself w 686k,w your T3 i get 768K
3rd team is just copium
can't punish their blanc in p4 or their rapu in p5
(with what you've atm)
I dont even know what im doing myself
btw rail,are u on EU ser?
global
Can i check which server im in?
check on your blabla link, on your homepage
ye 24% with biscuit locked team was the highest i pushed
cindy is no longer lethal after that
won't be a problem for vestiTU although
Thanks,can you add me?
My id is 10303811
saw this funny team

SG were on def side right?
Why soda p5
i think his idea is that drake and noir are taken down => rosanna nuke and soda cleans
feels like side oriented
biscuit locked teams should win regardless against that, but mihara p5 is plain weird
the wrong thing with his team is that his biscuit was not protected
would have won if p5 or p4 was a defender unit
SP arena
- naga centi ein noir rh
- jackal siren vestiTU blanc helmT
- noah biscuit alice dkw trina
Notes
most of your utilities and scarlet are a bit low on investiment, build them up then get your teams reviewed again for changes (see units marked in SS)
yep exactly, half assed biscuit locked team
literally left their anus open 
backsh*tted
For Nero/moran/xx/rapunzel/helm is quirey or mana better?
Rookie:
ein blanc rh helmt jackal (assumes ein is linked, you can check this by running shooting range and checking if "jumping jackal" is active on ein upon entering with that lineup)
Cubes:
naga resil/bastion/any
centi temperance/quantum
ein resil/bastion
noir resil/bastion/any
RH resil/bastion/any
jackal quantum
siren temperance
vestiTU resil/bastion/adjutant
blanc temperance/vigor
helmT resil/bastion/adjutant/vigor
noah temperance
biscuit vigor
alice resil/bastion/adjutant/any
dkw any
trina any
quiry can perform better situationally, mana can get denied by rosanna, overall nero moran helmt rapunzel laplaceT/xmaiden can perform consistently better
Thanks boss. That will save me mats not building either of those two
enter any battle (campaign or shooting range) with that lineup, enter pause menu, click on your unit, check if "jumping jackal" buff is active on Ein
if this is on, you're good to go
oke then we can tweak that, seems like your helmT has a lot of atk%
check this one next
jackal siren ein blanc helmt
@tropic summit I have a question
Is investing on pvp bricked ?
investing enough to hit stable 3k-2.7k gems isn't bricked in my book, since you can do that with pve units that double down as pvp 
that's fine, just check if she gets that with siren instead of helmt and you're good to go
yep that's fine
the current logic you're running will achieve this similar result as long as Ein max HP is lower than jackal and helmT
(in the example it's SBS instead of Ein) ^
not yet
Does anyone know if this is true? The Scarlett-rosana team is faster by 2 frames and I assume it kills scarlet before FB
I have no way to test it
swap team 2 to round 1 and u will win for deficit but swap sbs and rumani pos too so she wont get hit
the team with rosanna will win, even more so if she's linked
1: she breaks enemy link on 1R
2: she bursts before enemy can pop their B2 or B3
3: scarlet is dead, leaves s.anis which will die to nuke (if she's not dead already against scarlet s2)
4: SG feed will give opponent team a faster bursting time, enabling them to burst first
but yeah it is probably better for u to learn how attacking works instead of being relied on cp deficit
when sp reshuffle?
But Rossana being a MG also feeds Scarlett doesn't she?
In two weeks
MG builds up slowly, won't feed much pre 2RL B1, SG on the other hand feed 100% from the getgo
this is especially true on fast bursts, 2RL SG feed is massive compared to 2RL MG feed
if you look at the numbers, they look quite similar, but keep in mind SG push you into 2RL slightly faster than MG does (specifically the time frame between 1.5RL and 1.9RL)
I never understood what those numbers below the percentage meant
So the higher the number the higher the feed?
current rocket timing
current burst gauge progress
bullets fired at current time in battle
enemy Jackal burst gen from feed
the higher the bullet count, the higher the feed
say you've a team that is 90% to 2RL, the amount of feed rosanna team or s.anis team provide would be enough to promote you to 2RL
@thin abyss an example:
team below feeds 21% at 2RL, team above only needs 8% to be 2RL even if they start as 2.5RL
the team above will be promoted to 2RL
Thanks man, honestly your comment should be pinned for those who want to understand better how Nikke deck works
feels like we do explain this pretty much every week now that you mention it 
Yeah, probably because there is no info about what those numbers mean on the Nikke Deck website
First lost the remaining two won,ty bro
RIP alice copium team 
did you happen to record it?
wanted to see the trades post shield down for science 
Yeah,ill post them in a bit
T1 you don't need noah, run indom (jackal B3 flex blanc flex), 2RL
T2 your unbuilt rosanna is screaming here
T3 noah is now open for this one, out trade with vestiTU behind noah shield on same speed and some buffs
I don't know how to train my Vesti :Blancry:
any other B3 DPS... emilia and lappy together for example
ensure your 2.5RL on T3
go get em
omg the irony, their CS% made it backfire
T3 rapunzel cast B1, then you cast helmT B3 and delete link 
if they were slower you'd be in trouble
Uh,yeah,pvp stuff
as for T1 better noah stack usage because she's in p3, the attract bug fix nerfed that archetype down sadly
would need your vestiTU built for next time
then you can hit whole team 
Eh,he'll probably change his teams again
hope so, each day we can bully him more 
The gems we were supposed to get tomorrow are gone... just like that.
what rank you guys even trading for?
He can win the third spot tho,we are fighting over 4th spot
Challenger 8th
i'd say not worth but it's probably not about the rank at that point 
the best tip in those situations: don't bother, fight someone else
neither of you will win 
I just didnt think he had it in him. The grit
it's unfortunately what happens when you give attacker advantage and endless attempts in a competitive mode
add to that weak ego and endless resources
and you obtain that beautiful situation 
if both Emma TU and Eunwha TU are bad for PVP why is Vesti TU good when she needs them to exist as a character
She dosnt
oh i thought she did
Emma and Eunhwa need eachother tho
While they are together they are good true damage buffers but no CDR
ohh i thought the full set was necessary for em to work
vesti snipe 
Funny enuff because electric has most of the true dmg units Emma Eunhwa is better running in electric team
For solo raid that is
that sounds like another bad thing ab em tbh nah
cuz you could have some more electric damage with other units
I rolled them for the last raid with Ein and Ada
Not really because electric units are self synergizing
eh I'd leave it a bit, it's like a 2 week thing, you just trade instantly just burn gems. Best tactic is go away for a while and come back later and snipe back

fair
besides at this point likely your scores are fairly settled only a day left of points to even get
If I invested Isabel I would have more freedom but man….. resources…..
fair fair
That Ada literal only has a single piece of gear that is overloaded
whos that left of Sdorothy?
oh is it a skin? she looks different
@shell hazel ‘a waifu
ah she looks V different
idonget it
This is ssr on r NIKKE violence
Wot u don’t get
zanta can you sponsor me for some core dust so I can overtake the booba whale?
I did my best to put him behind me. (Me 8th and him 9th) surely he will stop 
U look cLose nuff anyway

U can get some one to hack his account
do you know who doakes is?
Eah he’s 437
detective
Ur 409
fake doro fan not even using the new teacup frame smh
Bruh non zero chance he’s gone by next reshuffle
I dunno I don't often see people isekaid out of my brackets
421 sync soon 
Tuff times for me
The more I analyze it...the sadder it becomes
.
Alex,mayara and me basically can't be at peace. We are at each other's throats
And for what 
it depends on when people claim as to how many points you get
or how many you see anyway
you can kind of tell what you'll get based on how many points you have each reset
As long as u dont go below 10, who cares
it's time in rank that matters more than current rank though
I redeem on reset so I have daily checkpoints I can analyse if I really need to
At most id gem once or twice to guarantee c3, no point gemming for 8th
600 points per hour for chal 1 or 595 for chal 2
according to grok I've spent 250 of 288 hours at rank 1 😛
Bunny Ade chest is so beeg
so my whale is slacking
Ur whale is not even at mirrior container
no they really are slacking there
At his dupe/ sync he should
they have the CP to do it, tbh I've noted they are lazy lately
they skip some dailies recently
Then again I got there at 444 I can’t be talking shit about other people
But I’m not a max core whale I’m a mlb whale
mlb whale is a lot more sensible
units get powercrept, 11 dupes means nothing if you never run them
@dense kindle your guildie 
U kind of get 11 dupes eventually
for normal yes - for pilgrim not as likely
Happened to my Cindy can happen to other people
Im experiencing emotional DAMAGE💔
The trick is if u love the waifu don’t take her off the wish list
lol I regret pulling her to core 1
Only reason I did core 1 is cuz I got a double on my last pull of Raven
And I’m like I can’t have Eve lose to Raven, Eve is cuter
Now I learned to mileage the last unit so I don’t accidentally get past mlb Lel
I still hear her to this very day
it will take years even as a spender on packs
I run a beta to burst conversion build
my cindy started as mlb, she's like core 1 now a year later lol
to the point where I think pilgrim mlb is literally years now, and there are more than ever of them in the advanced tickets non wishlist
Never seen that person before in my life
best time to MLB pilgrim is on banner

jk hi @charred wedge 
I could use more siren copy
siren spooked me a couple of times it's why she's c2 when she started at mlb
I didn’t get siren outside of her banner
I didn't get nier colab on the 20 free pulls we had but I did get a siren, so kind of a win there
Feels like fish waifu is avoiding me
Wonder what element nyuta is
wind
Leaked already?
yeah I mean siren/water theme, and clearly wind code right
Lel
tbh I don't know I'm just chatting shit
Verily
I’m feeling one of them unit being water
when did you last claim? your average points per hour is less than 10 if it's recently
or lower than rank 10
If u think about it we have 2 water pilgrims and one is limited
Meanwhile we have many pilgrims in other codes
Dang
We have 2 water pilgrims and they are the same person
damn 421 would feel pretty good rn lol
gap my whale down to 20, unsure if they've been saving crates though
481 is when I got ultra to phase 20 in raid museum and passed mirrior container
they level up pretty quick atm but they might just be opening them as they come in
I shrunk the gap to 24 or 25 last chapters we had, now it's back to 28
But anni is so close u might as well save
well it won't massively change stuff but 2 new chapters will mean 2 more cd/hour for all existing crates
He def using them since ur ahead of him in chapters no?
he may be, but he also has to have been buying cd dust packs to be so far ahead on sync to begin with
bro
he's not outskilled me to get there 😄
missing 10000k data
tomorrow easy!
want it tonight
you opening crates as well? I'm saving a bit
I have to alternate red/blue stuff for event stuff
jumping 421 on anni
If u want u can jump before with ninja event hard mode
But still better to save till anni stage drop
I'll get like 3k more cd just waiting a week for new chapters
Since it’s so close
kind of worth tbh
Yeah
plus all my bd and credits get better
I would have waited too but u know, phone fell on my face and my 2k crates poofed
my whale gets a level every couple of days, so by the time they make the 441 jump I should be able to 421 myself
then we'll 20 gap and see what they do next, if they return the gap to 30 they're def cd whaling
Feels like I could make 521 before next union raid
Also I snatched Taarn he’s with me now


are you fighting with viper/void?
yeah kind of glad tbh
That event story was mid af
the mini game was fun though but they could have done with tuning the rng on the drops a bit, also when 3rd character was added it made the RNG even worse lol
I stopped trying for scores when Ada got added
Ended up 3rd of my union
My friend got glorious combo of traits with nothing wasted and bro pushed a ways into million+
yeah exactly made it too hard to fish for good traits
When he showed me that trait list I knew there’s no way I’m winning this
Oh well, I held 1st for many mini games
I like competing in the union a bit is fun
but nothing serious ofc, just a bit of banter
🧱
Most of the time it’s me and @candid knoll
should wait for new chapters bigboi 😛
Im not even done with the story
be done with story
Yeh he can’t even get to 40

Yeah lemme clear ziz at 261 no problem
my co-op companion 😄
281 you mean 
Yes I know about ur group Lel
I just get 10% for co-op and I’m done
yeah we try the same, maybe one day we'll go for more ranks but tbh I'm OK with 10% and way less effort
I have my own group but we are short 1 so I been stealing him
speaking of shop reset today
I just got doll boxes, I'm saving bones for next week now, unsure when next bones drop in
Already did, spend what little I had on core dust and doll mats
I get gear exp and doll mats with bones
yeah I skip gear xp for now
I lost a week of doll mats and I want to avoid that
need to ensure I keep enough back to always buy next 2 weeks of doll crates
Looks like 1-2 max dolls good nuff for me
eh nice, mine is miles off
Well u max dolls pvp units
yeah :9
I’m not crazy nuff except for my stall
Bruh
+47 crates to open 😄
Nah 47 is potentially 94 orange
ummm
Ur fine
Make a deal with the universe sacrifice ur future naga pulls to the void for 0.5% better luck
with 10% it should have been like 20
so miles under lol
I'm mainly just looking to try to build 1 unit on anni if I can, I'll review the next one on next SR
yep, only hitting them both
are they able to beat you? I'm only rarely hitting you 😄
today was my first one this season
or yesterday
void doesn't try and viper has like 75% win rate on me
I don’t find people in my bracket here I think
at 401 you may gap viper guy
yup
or his cp gap on you will fail
I suspect he's sending pve nonsense to beat you with cp deficit
Im still in deficit
Yeah i can probably clear normal and push to mw hm
What is the counter to this team?
emi nuke just catch with noah
What rl to catch Emi nuke?
I think it's 1RL slower
I don't have anyone with emi in my brackets just what I saw being mentioned
OK so either way I am over CP vs this guy
@shell hazel i succeed to win 30-06 hard, i'll be able to do some stages and have enough data to lvl up
yeah quite a lot of bd hiding in those stages you can get, gz 🙂
I DID IT!
then 401 you can push more after it
yeah
How many Rl to wait out Noah?
is it rookie pecos?
Yes
you'll want a 3RL noah
ohhh 409 31-36 nice, you gave me the hype to try
I was here since 401 but it's hard for sure
some evil stages on the way
depends on your cp a bit
Damn I thought I was up high in hard mode. Getting stuck by the DoT bots in Ch. 30
oh i think i remember 31-35 from normal campaign
RH hyper carry (the destructive power of rapi and vesti is high)
RH b1 on each alt burst was critical here
3RL noah with s.anis
ah I was right on 3RL but had vesti instead 😛
I just did that and it worked
4 tanky healers at once all healing eachother and simply not dying in time lol
did you run s.anis or vesti version?
q for @thin perch
SAnis I haven’t used Vesti in rookie yet
Am I getting vesti gapped by Campaign 
she's very good in the fire weak chapters
due to true damage
at high deficit in particular
if you didn't try out vesti in your teams yet you could try @oblique gyro
just be wary of losing cp too much vs more built things and deficits
I found it varied a bit what I had to run, sometimes RH boost, sometimes no vesti at all, and sometimes I needed helm lifesteal so had to run
Guys look at this Emilia CS roll
Got 2 rock today, roll on ReiT and another Charge Speed. I'm sure the system is rigged at this point. 4 CS on same piece of equipment in a round.
I’ve got 5.51 + 5.80 + 5.80 + 6.09 charge speed lines on my Emilia now
It’s been a long journey
that is about as good as it would ever need to be
you still need adjutant though to hit 25%, can't get 25% even with 4 black lines
you could have been fine with 23% native as well 🙂
Yep
that black line at 4.63% or higher was enough
yeah
But I got lucky and got a black line I guess
yeah is a win
shame you lose the blue line atk but guess her main thing is CS anyway
I’ll work on her attack once I get more rocks for now I’ve been shooting for charge speed first to help with CA
if i feel the need yeah, but your CP is so high
I heavily invested into the units you see
lot of rocks. still need a lot more tbh but saving for anni 
I had less on that 31-35 though
Id win
do it!
On a boss
tis not a boss
no boss is stage or two after on this one
this one is needed for 89 cd/hour jump
unskippable even if you do all of the side stages
Just add another stage

more than just a hat rack my friend
Hippo ive got a crazy fun fact for you
is it how much money you're making for me with my personal finance advice? 😄
im here
late, but here
Misfit of demon king was so dumb


yeaaah... the gambling trait...
that why i did not play again
love it but having one random full trait of DoT + EXP + GOLD
F it
give me a minigame like MOG of BFG, SU
Yes
the xmaiden frogger one was fun
i mean, just the minigames in general
they always surprise me and i love it
mini games can be a little hit and miss but on the whole I like having them
and if they're bad usually it's quick to complete em
This game is built on RNG what are you talking about.
yeah
and i have bad rng
so that why i stop trying
im leaving it to my friends this time
Same. Time for me to roll back to my sheet. 
Glhf
I want Ade run
That game was eye sight destroying

and i need my revenge, i got cap like 20 min before the end and couldn't break our fight
I just know I finally beat noir on that bbq one
she's doing her best

@tropic summit

I was using Gusto deck since 2011. To KoG in duel link as well. Nothing gonna stop me now, maybe they added some wind Synchro I need to collect

I played dragonmaids, if I didnt get a perfect shuffle I lost 9/10 times
Bad player

Im not bad, tf am I supposed to so when they special summon God on turn 2
Summon your own negate monster in turn 1.

You think i get those?
No. I get 5 monsters i cant use
All 3 of my darkness metal dragon in one hand
Bring 10+ hand trap in your 40 cards deck. 
Not 9/10 duel in around. That's practically impossible.
Also, high star monster that's searchable and not a searcher should be 2 card in the deck, not 3.
Idr the exact amount I had, I havent played for 2 years
It was my favorite card when I was a kid, I put it in a custom deck full of "send to graveyard" cards and dragons
It got unbanned for a reason. 
They tweaked the card, didnt they?
Is this ok?
Kinda, team 2+3 looking a bit dangerous but not like it's unwinnable
Yeah
Imagine not building Soda for PvP
If I swap team 1 helm with team 2 anis? Is it safer?
No don't
Rosanna would kill helm right? Though that should be fine?
T1 just uses all RL nikkes+lap+ burst
No need to waste up cindy or helmT
Oh wait, swap Anis and Rumani. Then put Anis p3 RH p4.
LapT may not making it, go XMaiden if you do that route
For your reference 
It worked for you doesn't mean it works for others. 
LapT could be killed by scarlet counter during her burst. 
Ofc it could be safe if there aren't significant diff in investment and level.
You even used Rapu so it's much safer. 
LapT won't be killed by scar counter, as 3s is enough to kill her

Especially without jackal
Listen to blood 
Nah he is right. His team is 100% winning 2 healer and all that. 
Unless Rossanna crited. With lots of Crit dmg and ATK
Won't
Noise increased hp at the same time
Rossanna with 40% AtK 60% Crit dmg can kill easily. 
So time to Crit fish her. 
Return player in master duel has zero reward. 
40%atk 20% crit rate 60% crit dmg

Time to load up my 2nd account and play both for returner reward. 
Tiny reward.
can someone explain what the 2rl-4rl numbers mean?
I dont have lapT anyway
@swift mango oh no
RL
- borrowed from Rocket Launcher and how we measure burst gen speed. A team that can reach Full Burst Gauge when the third shot of "1 second charge time RL" hits, is referred to as a 3RL team. A high speed team is 2RL
Taken from pinned FAQ 
Work smarter, not harder
how about we work hard to normalize seconds and frames instead of rl
Too much frames to be intuitive
Seconds will be.... Hard since it's hard to see the timer
i swear to god i tried to look at the pins like multiple times and could not find that paragraph 😭
thank you
Huh?
Tbf FAQ has got quite overshadowed by recent pins
white name
@bigboi
..... Wait 

Nah, I searched messages
Kisenix being mischievous once again
Well, you indom and burst right. No mistake, just your team isn't winning against them. 
Need to change team 2 and 3 entirely
@gritty ridge
@umbral crown
@keen vapor echocho

Unknown user 
Yea what teams should I use?
That was my previous defense team he copied it haha
I can see though you are blocked?
Bigboi blocked me? 
You have Rossanna? LapT?
Yes Rosanna no lapT
It's okay he's annoying anyway

Bro yaps all day whenever he's here
was he red tho
He was green when i was blue, and now we are both purple, and he reached purple first

yall yappers are insane
rare tibi appearance 
Liberalio for anni
ofc he heree
yep thats pretty much why
thats very true
cant just let me quit the game... i planned on full retirement if no lib 3rd anni and tbh i didnt expect her to be this early
oh, my pfp actually matches my color
jellyfish finally 
Though she may be making an appearance but maybe not as a banner so fast? She is still a villain

We shall see 
Liberation return, trust 
no, get out
Chime too 
commander will hawk tuah her with vapaus and she join us 
Liberalio seems like this anniversary's solo raid boss
Any unit condemned to that shit system will have trash kit because shiftup hates free units
sus leak + eden spear actually makes her the most likely 2nd unit for anni lol despite the villain status
Also 20000 union chips for dupes
i mean crow exists so queen betrayal + vapaus isnt a must

crow alt soon
Nihilister alt would be nice
base nihil is enough, i used her once in spa and once in sim room oc infinite, see how relevant she is

Noise hit scar
Scar hit Cindy
Rosa hit Vesti
The flex slot could be Rapipi or any B3 CP pad to fit CP requirements.
If Siren isn't linked (Trina linked instead), swap Jackal and Siren.
For Anis, you could replace her with 2 p1+2 SG easily.
Centi with quantum
What is does 2 p1 +2 SG mean?
200000*
She have some burst gen at least. 
The pure Vapaus from his d*
Now bring her to CA and take champ with her
Tibi was silver when you was green. Now you purple and he Green.

@shell hazel not stuck yet but want to sleep
You went from blue to red while i stayed blue all the while, i dont wanna hear u comparing yapper to other yapper

I reached blue before you though. 
No worry you are gonna Red soon.

Remember the day when everyone was blue. Rail as well. 

U can take my acc and put all resources in spa and ca and u won’t make it with or without nihil
Gave up on this nonsense early jp group way back then
Well, reroll new account on global for Liberalio 


At the rate im going it wont be any time soon, u think i yap a 500-1000 message here everyday like u? 
If you did 1000 message a day you would be red in 24 hours 
Tbf, I'm kinda getting pissed off these days so better not discord too much less I starting some big flame.
Keep calm and become
For 2rl indom, Without CS 16.
With 11% CS above referring 20.
If you wanted to use her unbuffed against Nero stall you also need her 16 ammo at least so you killed Rapu on time.
good thing not much in my group use nero stall
3 years not playing and on of my card got banned. 
Punished by losing 20UR because the card is banned. 
you haven't played since HALQ?
U yap too much
take time off discord
💀
Im not even in the top 10 yappers
@keen vapor I didnt block you silly

I just wasnt in the server lmao
Last I log in was 2022. Checked out in Konami account. Not sure the day.
Maybe June or so.
That's thunder something that destroy opposite field was at 1 when I played. Semi limited now.
you can play it in unlim room 
Halq union carrier combos 
2022 should be the Adventure Tenyi Rose Dragon Denglong Halq Tomahawk Auroradon piles 
I did some EVIL stuff with Denlong Halq hooooooooly
I mean it would be playable
why did you leavE?
I thought it would be silly
Kisenyan told me to not come back so I thought itd be funny to leave the server
Would anyone be able to help me make decent SP arena teams? I have better PvP units wishlisted but haven't hit many yet
Current teams
I'm close to being able to get HelmT to phase 2 but atm she doesn't have a collection item

Guess that explains why I lost, massively increased his combat power from last time.
I'm starting to think defict teams are a very poor defense in challenger.
All those MGs just make bursting so easy
Struggling in Sp arena to break through - been using cindy/scarlet/unoptimised shotgun - recently pulled and geared vesti but she seems to want a lot of the support cindy and scarlet have
any suggestions? also no idea how to actually build shotguns for pvp instead of raid
noah cindy - scar 2RL - blanc vesti
that should be ez 3 teams for defense
sg build for pvp should be abt the same as for raid
atk ele crit wahtever u can get to get more dmg
i thought leona and bunny soda and tove werent good in pvp
oh u meant actual sg units
clip sg
if its mag sg forget abt them
bsoda drake noir sugar viper r all good
also u shouldnt really use sg for defense anyway esp for spa
sg team is for champs
it's a littleawkward fitting all 3 teams, i'm missing trina and emi so it's a little tight stretching to all 3
thats fine those r just templates
if u dont have the units u can go for 2 fast pvp teams and one cp padding
u can also check pins for sample teams
hey pvp guys been a while. help me make team for special arenas, i have pulled new nikkes since my last visit here. 🙂
Nah, if my deck was good enough to win easily before at least it could win now with some hardship. Unlimited doesn't reward pass point from what I remember so no reason to play it. 
Nah I just summon a bunch of Crystal Clear Wing dragon turn one and flip royal oppression the next turn. 
Which is also banned now btw.
Halq basically was just additional play, not a core card. It just released and I played it for a month before I quitted.
I just checked and after 3 years, no good new generic Wind synchro so basically nothing new to add to the deck.
It has been so long, top 2 times I haven't been playing Yu-Gi-Oh since 2002. And the longest to me since 2008. But I only forgot how to use linked monster. Guess I quick internet works 
Ah I remember now, it was Halq into Simorgh... In my deck. 
Darn they also banned "Barrier Statue of Stormwind". The hate for Wind is real. 
Yo does anyone know a resource for calculating burst gen for your teams in pvp? I recall seeing people posting it around here
You mean the web.app or the burst gen table? They both in the pin.
Find the Google sheet by kosmiu if you wanted the burst gen chart.
Thank you!
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Seriously this hit the hardest to my Gusto deck. I guess Speedroid was that much of a thread in 2022 they bias... Against it, only wind barrier got banned... Guess I should play madolche in my another account and use Earth barrier instead. 
Wind statue was banned because of floowandereeze 
Yeah, Flooandereeze should be released to Master duel after I quitted. 
That deck is no threat to my gusto though. I would welcome its meta because Gusto self locked themselves to Wind monster to begin with. 

Seeing gusto cards make me feel old 
I got to KoG in duel link in 2022, also highest rank in master duel with it. It works. 
My pet deck since 2011.
It's fun having pet decks 
I had no problem with winning in Duel link or master duel... It was just my phone broke in 2022 and I started playing another game after I bought a new phone and so no time to reinstall those Yu-Gi-Oh games...

Darn after looking at my deck I found out I could kind of search wind barrier. It was a strong play to win there... Now I need to find something else to use. 
Charmer channelers 
The artworks 
Yeah, wynn, winda and caam were my 3 favorite wind girls... Did you know Wynn and Winda were sisters and Wynn came from Gusto tribe too? 
Ive won w my handmade teams
@tropic summit
Too bad, Caam were kinda forgotten in the lore and new archetype. Guess she died. 
Rapi stonks. 
Well,the result of +1000 ammo
i knew it was a good thing to do
Konami shilling wynn and winda 
Caam died in poisonous wind and ofc no return like some shaddoll. 
He should only fired off line 400 in that match. 
💀 dude is gemming in rookie
Still i needed that extra 100
Hope you get to CA at least
Lel
My union is sync 300+ and we had the boss apply hard chapter 13+ minimum by Anni requirement

Breh hard 13 is like blue numbers how scared can dis guy be
yeah we have a few like it, they just seem to be bored with playing the game but carry on logging on anyway
they don't push the normal or hard modes even though it's easy to auto with their cp
The tax you had to pay so you could get pilgrim in one 10 pulls. Better than me bricking from pulling all crappy units. 
Anyone knows when the next sp reshuffle gonna be? Should be every 3 months.
it's after next SPA season end (not this one)
With that I might have a bunch of space after, maybe we should merge union
, we expunge out weak ones so yours and absorb your strong ones
I think I just have to be OK with not everyone being that goal-oriented lol
Thank you. It's been a rough 3 months
would be nice wouldn't it haha
I'm going to give people a chance to improve some, I'm aiming for say 1% with everyone taking part

We can prob yeet like
Half of ours and we prob still be in 3%
Since most of the work is done by the top 10 ish people
wdym it took me 180 pulls for dorothy
it has been 70 days.

that is 20 days fewer than ~3 months
nice, good job
Rate my teams pls?
defender 2RL anti nuke team vs glass cannon scarlet + rosanna = good
scarlet nuke against slower team with nuke resistance but not immunity = good
although it looks like you got RRH indommed and scarlet died pre burst, you intended to sacc scarlet or just happened on its own? 
Tbh,i mostly were aware that scarlet would die but i still put her on p1 because rapirh or scarlet burst wouldnt change much outside of scarlet swap,though yes i take a huge risk it still turned out to be good
Also my rapirh were pretty buffed so it wouldnt change much whatever
cindy defender against scarlet is good, if xmaiden gets a re-run worth picking up a copy as she improves burst gen and has the same function
xmaiden is clip SG level burst gen vs cindy who is basically nothing lol
@shell hazel A REIGN IS OVER
poor void 😄
he seems to have slowed down on levels lately wonder if saving for anni
can you beat my rookie team? curious to see if you can
maybe ! we had a +- 30 sync gap from start until 1 month ago where it falls down to 15, helped me to reach him out, but why did i noticed this reduced sync gap after all these months ? maybe he stopped to cash up
suspect saving crates for anni like me perhaps
because he was gapping me by more than 20 as well and now it's like 10 or less
unsure, same as my whale, was +30 sync on me as well (but also max core all the things lol)
Cleared campaign probably
we're at similar campaign progress
cleared normal 31 hard
void doesn't seem to bother with investing pvp units much tbh, my whale is like SR-15 and max cores + skills and overloads 😄
I'd trade for booba guy in a heartbeat!
Rare bad luck. Better than me 180 pulls no jill.
i wish i had a 30 sync gap to my whale 
@swift mango does toom even have a discord?
like does ur union have a server where toom talks or
Probably not.
damn
Not on the union discord at least
zero online persona huh

surely just siren the noah? I don't think that team is quick enough to avoid it
i mean, that scar team is 3rl, but it can block helm nuke
Just siren stun it? 
that's what I said, or run jackal at p1 so you get fed to a quicker RL also works
but my team already 2rl without fed, 3rl noah can block 2rl nuke?
is it though? vesti gen isn't 100% reliable especially if anyone dies at p1-p3 early on
Good morning 
this may work it depends if they can b2 noah before siren hits
your jackal will get gen and biscuit should protec jackal and noah
siren should prevent their noah unless they're somehow super quick
tks, but its fine. im just kinda curious why this can block helm burst
then i saw this...
Helm burst seems to hit Noah
definitely wasnt opponent scarlet
noah taunty can get helm stuck
maybe you just need counter-vesti, though it's crazy their non-bursting vesti did so much
I'd see if my siren version prevents their noah B2 because if so you should win it
tmr, points gap too big, i cant find him anymore
you probably shouldn't bother as you're in deficit on all 3 teams
u can probably scar 2RL team 1
maybe even double buff since u are in deficit
then noah vesti team 3
u are in deficit but deficit isnt that huge so its still doable
does hitting cindy with RL really counts as tripple hit with her as p2?
It does. Cindy in P2 gives opponent 1.25x more burst gen
Technically from 4 targets (2 nikke 2 cover) to 5 targets (plus cindy’s shield)
what kind of shield is hit along with the rest 😄
her decoy
great decoy 😄 if gets hit along with everything else 😄
you need:
1.400k
1.357k
1.495k
T1 is the easiest, you need scar-jack with padding
T2 is RNG, but easy if you roll a lucky round, can bay noah cindy helmt rumani
T3 is expensive but not too difficult
assemble the teams above and see if you hit the CP requirement, else invest first and try later (you can probably hit them once you're 561)
Ok ty
What are the pvp OLs?
Attacker: Atk, Ammo, Crit chance (just Scarlet for me)
or
Charge Speed, Def (RL)
My last bullet units w OLs are used in pve, eg S. Anis
Some dps are more impt than others, like Vesti, Emilia, lap, xmaid, scar
Regular clipRL just need cs%.
Def overall not that impt. V marginal stat
Oh right. Forgot about Emilia. Didn't know Laplace had a place outside tower
atk/ele works well as well. up to u to choose crit or ele
I thought pvp didn't want ele. I guess Helm+ is common now, but not every team will have water
[Forgot Emilia again 😁]
why did you put blanc p2 against a vesti elkingjae 
iron units would want some ele, given pvp meta has alot of electric unit
unlinked vesti p1 asking to die also 😄
Ele is good for cp pad as well as extra dmg when applicable
also running fast noah into slow cindy
My 3 ele noise has so much power
I should have swapped maiden and blanc
Too late 🙁
There's rapu revive
t1 and t3 were doomed from the start. I saw it too late
T1 normally wins though
emilia should go 4 atk 8 crit
vesti can do 4atk ele/cs/ammo
lap wants ele/atk/cs
xmaiden wants cs/atk

pvp deadge 
noise noah vesti lap centi should win t1 @rich ledge. mihara DoT shouldn't be lethal vs Noise unless uninvested
oh u did it 
now I go to work
That's from last time I'm not sure why this time lost I think cos I rolled some cs on Noah then the burst is too quick to and didn't catch Cindy burst
Oh I missed it used to be biscuit oh no I didn't check my teams carefully
yeah biscuit is fairly slow also
Im ready to win next CA
just saying
21/10 - 7:04PM (CET)
let's see in a few days
🍿
we'll need to survive christmas first
I'd die happy
and frieren 2nd season is this winter... 
I beat the whale again Rail: 5-0 now
it was over days ago as I was supreme glorious leader for too long already
he's pondering when to drop that juicy 500$ into the game to kick you back in your place
basically 
i'm 409 sync they're 437 so close to jump, though I'm not miles off 421 jump myself
Still no emilia rerun 
soon 
just fight em with your 💳
show them who can spend harder
nah I won't spend more to fight em 🙂
ultimately it gives us increased chance of another lewd skin, everyone wins 
i'll just force them to spend more if they really want it
collab selector for anni 
rail do you think this solves by noise only b1 issue in CA?
side dependant, SGs can wipe both noise and noah in time if properly invested
trickier to solve that though
if anything you add a layer of resistance
noise p1 worked fine btw except for when I hit SG's who were on atk
on def it would have been OK even if centi died who was p5
I heard frieren manga is an indefinite hiatus, so after s2 probably there won't be any frieren adaptation 
i'll get what i can get, more fern is welcome regardless
I hope the mangaka is okay
inu x boku SS ptsd
highschool of the dead SS ptsd
we were so close to greatness

Life be like
the physics calculations are real
as real as the dragon maid i've living with me
SU should support frieren mangaka by collabing

Fern as MG would go hard
that one time SU would finally do something good 

||gonna need to revive her first
||
we can do it, we have the technology
so stick with?
it's CA run w/e you want tbh
probably will struggle against indom vestiTU aswell
yeah true, though it's fairly lethal on p1-p3 before 2RL
if you add siren it gains resistance instead, but will be dead without harder sustain like helmT B3
thinking of re-arranging this one though I kind of dislike mihara on the end
blanc cindy biscuit mihara rumani?
run the real one
blanc mihara biscuit rumani cindy
my issue with that is I kept finding mihara b3 because she doesn't die lol
that's just RNG
happens more than once
getting matchmade against weak p2 damage teams is just RNG
i've more than 15 wins and 2 losses with that but with RH instead of midhara
the only 2 losses were against splashers and because misindom once
the one I showed did better in general but some rng on opponent cindy teams
is an option though I need to put someone else with scar
my soda isn't totally ready though she may work
she has OL no doll levels
one issue that introduces is that scar is no longer as lethal ofc
my slow cindy beat some soda scar comps
then don't run soda and run the usual glass cannon
scar trina rh centi anis
let's you retain jackal for vesti or any other indom variant like s.anis or reiT
yeah I previously ran jackal with vesti, it's strong, but it seems to mainly improve my odds against SG's lol
it's all trade offs. My scar 2RL without jackal then loses to SG's instead 😄
or other scar 2RL with jackal as they're just quicker on feed
it's CA
make decisions what you want to lose against and what you want to be strong against
lose against: nothing
strong against: everything
As Keripo stated before, make a matrix and consider all the usual archetypes, then devise teams that have better odds against them.
there's a reason even keripo doesn't get wins every season
piss poor game mode that doesn't test your experience or skill, just invest check against RNG
crazy times just winning most of them and in jp as well 😄
and then you've cases like blood matchmade against ppl with 100+ lvl research advantage
forget about mirror, some matchups where you've the counter still lose
e.g. SGs not being able to wipe a p5 defender
(without biscuit)
yeah whales gonna whale
wonder how many more "beta" seasons we gonna get until they think people forgot about it and silently drop it as definitive
I don't think it's crazy influential here, right counters should still win
I don't really see them changing the format
me neither, super easy on the budget, game plays by itself, no need to balance a thing
the dream for any developer
the players wanted something fun or interactive or interesting? f that the best we can do is an auto mode 
true it's not that interesting, though on the positive side once I have my teams set it takes like no brain power at least lol
the question that should arise at that point is: "why even make it in the first place"
because they said they would more than anything probably
waste of resources and time 





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