pvp-arena

[warm monolith]

But have difficulties downloading the game so you miss on free poli skin

[hollow lagoon]

so do u solo raid with bay

[tropic summit]

jackal siren scarlet blanc laplaceT
noah bay rapunzel s.anis helmT
crown trina cindy biscuit rumani

[warm monolith]

Nah,im not dumb i do union raids with her

[unborn shuttle]

?

[hollow lagoon]

crown trina cindy?, noah and bay O.o what sort of cook is dis

[warm monolith]

731k,746k,678k fyi

[warm monolith]

Though i think i actually did some back when i started

[tropic summit]

replace trina with naga, screw speed at least it gets you CP

[warm monolith]

764k now

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit outside of replacing machor with clip rl, would you change anything?

[shell hazel]

if you didn't yet maybe just post what units you have and someone can team build a bit for you

because investment matters and so you want to run units that are built

nikke sorted by power

[warm monolith]

Goodnight yall,thanks for all the helps

[unborn shuttle]

oh, by power? i thought it was by rarity so only ssrs are shown, i had sent that above

hold on, ill ss by power and send here

[shell hazel]

it's probably the same order in rarity mode

[hollow lagoon]

bruh got any new cook for champ arena?

[shell hazel]

no one attacks me. I am the one who knocks apparently

[gritty ridge]

I misread that

[hollow lagoon]

ur whale's not touching u no more?

[shell hazel]

void can't - diff whale to the SPA one

[hollow lagoon]

oh

[shell hazel]

void was a bit of a whale but is nowhere near as bad as the other one in my SPA lol

[tropic summit]

sbs blanc rh xmaiden jackal
crown biscuit ein siren centi
midhara laplaceT helmT blanc rapunzel

build asap noah, trina, rumani, vestiTU, get teams reviewed once these are ready
wishlist scarlet

[shell hazel]

this guy similar power also but cp pad nonsense

[hollow lagoon]

passionate arsonist flight pilot

[shell hazel]

they don't run proper teams just this cp pad stuff, so I can't test anything meaningful on them and my team is similar power but actual units so they can't beat me

[hollow lagoon]

what sort of name is that

[tropic summit]

T1 glass cannon weak to bay/noah/indom
T2 skip
T3 weak to a lot of things, heavy feed, slow

[gritty ridge]

Im debating this for spa

[tropic summit]

much better T1, although i guess your CP will suck with that

[gritty ridge]

Yeah centi isnt built and rosa isnt finished yet

[unborn shuttle]

i c, whats the "build" for those 4, like at what point do u want them to be (also including biscuit, centi jackal and rapunzel since those arent meta i barely spent anything on them) and wdym by getting teams reviewed

[tropic summit]

then don't ya silly

[hollow lagoon]

how to build centi

[tropic summit]

they need to be at same CP as your xmaiden

4/4/4, SR5, 4OL

[gritty ridge]

It can be run relatively soon

[shell hazel]

it's a cool name I like it

[gritty ridge]

Overload her

[unborn shuttle]

got it, and wdym by getting teams reviewed

[hollow lagoon]

wonder if ill be screwed with next reshuffle

[tropic summit]

your current teams are pretty bad and weak to a lot of things, the units above will enable your teams to be more resistant and faster

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[gritty ridge]

Spa reshuffle at season end?

[tropic summit]

you can't be screwed if you're THE whale

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

it's the others that have to worry of getting you, over in their brackets

[hollow lagoon]

i could get trapped into bigger whale

[gritty ridge]

I hope me and my rank 1 dont get shuffled away

[tropic summit]

you're already the bigger whale

[hollow lagoon]

i saw bigger when i was stalking champ arena people

[shell hazel]

you found 1 person who was a bigger whale gz 😄

[tropic summit]

MF zant at this point is just flexing

[unborn shuttle]

i think i can actually get most of what u said to build pretty quickly if its only 4/4/4, sr5 and 4ol (this might need some gears but thats fairly quick to do), what would be the teams?

[hollow lagoon]

i found 4

[shell hazel]

eh, wide bracket

[tropic summit]

ping this chat again once those are ready

[hollow lagoon]

i'm autistic i cant lie

[shell hazel]

you're really worried about nothing tbh

[unborn shuttle]

and reference the team u sent?

[shell hazel]

if I was +100 on my current sync I'd not be worried either

[tropic summit]

it's like you're sitting in a villa, but you're worried the neighbour might've a slightly bigger villa

[tropic summit]

ye sure

[shell hazel]

[unborn shuttle]

got it, thanks thats all

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit thoughts on scar indom vs scar rosa?

[shell hazel]

like that kid in harry potter who needed more presents each year 😄

[tropic summit]

scar rosa is better, scar indom can be kited

although they somewat suffer from similar counters, that being stall teams with defenders

the whole point of running scarlet is to make them waste noah or bay or an indom anyway

[hollow lagoon]

@warm monolith bay can actually be copium fire code healer for elemental qte

[gritty ridge]

As long as they waste indom on p1 and get eaten by vesti p2

[shell hazel]

bay is decent healer tbh

[hollow lagoon]

thous numbers are like rapunzel tier, cept better cuz 4 units instead of 3

[shell hazel]

if you skill her up and treasure I think she's one of the better general healers?

[tropic summit]

you want late game defenses, it's gonna involve CS%, look at those MF'ers getting blanc B2 against helmT on 2RL with jackal

15%CS team wide warriors are the real sh*t

[gritty ridge]

At least I have enough cs on besti to make me siren proof

[shell hazel]

I have a dream, it's 15% CS

[warm monolith]

Yeah i know,i used this effect against sim room and nihilister tetra tower,it was A LOT of help(yes,i dont use blanc in tetra tower)

Thats why she is best 🙂

[hollow lagoon]

nihilister tetra tower?

i'm like

[warm monolith]

About 340-370? I dont remember tbh

Oh,im gold now nice

[hollow lagoon]

eah nihilister tetra tower was after tetra MW? dang

[shell hazel]

this one? I'm here if so

[warm monolith]

Yeah,prob

[gritty ridge]

Ezpz

Just use bready

[hollow lagoon]

lewdmilla it ezpz

[warm monolith]

Use Bay

[hollow lagoon]

oh right bready

mine aint built

[shell hazel]

no I need blue cp

[gritty ridge]

[hollow lagoon]

that's barely deficit

[shell hazel]

[warm monolith]

Bay doesnt need elem advantage😎

[shell hazel]

421 sync

trust

[warm monolith]

Also use rouge like?

[gritty ridge]

I run alice, rouge, bready, crust, noir for tetra

[shell hazel]

my rouge is sitting in a gutter unbuilt at this time

why do you think I run my pvp units? 😄

[warm monolith]

I run sanis/biscuit/Bay/rouge/alice,it works

[hollow lagoon]

my current tetra comp

[warm monolith]

Yeah,but not building rouge is...

[warm monolith]

My guy also got bay skin

[shell hazel]

I bricked my pve for my pvp

[warm monolith]

I need xlud too

[shell hazel]

it will be a long road to unbrick it

[hollow lagoon]

lies u 2% solo raid

[shell hazel]

worth (and the moran one)

[warm monolith]

Sanis or xlub better in tetra tower

[hollow lagoon]

depends

[shell hazel]

still got a lot of unbricking to do

[hollow lagoon]

if u run noir it bricks sanis

[shell hazel]

saving resources. anni inc

[gritty ridge]

Sanis is typically on burst while x.lud can be offburst

[warm monolith]

They leaked aniv skin

[shell hazel]

they did?

[warm monolith]

Would i be banned if i say whos?

[hollow lagoon]

nah i'm mroe bricked, ur hyper carries have better ol rolls, i'm here stuck on 2 atk rapi 0 atk redhood and my best unit is a 3 ele 3 atk cindy with no crit lines lel

[shell hazel]

dunno lmao

[warm monolith]

I wouldve be done Bay/rouge/alice/sanis/xlud but sadly bay is 40 sec

[gritty ridge]

Why bay p1

[hollow lagoon]

where me must know

[warm monolith]

Worth taking the chance,its red hood,not sure which skin will be and even if its for aniv

[hollow lagoon]

hood?

maybe gatcha re run

[warm monolith]

She is 1.

[shell hazel]

first one wasn't gacha it was free

[hollow lagoon]

oh

[warm monolith]

It didnt looked like a gacha skin

[hollow lagoon]

i like hood nuff to gib her a gatcha

[shell hazel]

it's a bit of a hard sell for me when her free skin was so good

[hollow lagoon]

i dont have it lel

[shell hazel]

and a bunch of people got it for free already

[warm monolith]

I actually didnt find the leak but one of my buds from turkish nikke sub server

[shell hazel]

no me neither but I'm not as inclined to buy a gacha skin for her tbh, her default outfit also pretty good

[gritty ridge]

3 anni skins

[warm monolith]

I still didnt had chance to use her free skin

[hollow lagoon]

i hope i get to mlb xlude in winter event

[gritty ridge]

I don't wanna drop 150$ on skins

[shell hazel]

I'll probably be selective and will just go for 1 gacha skin if it's one I like

[warm monolith]

I think theyll put the oldest winter units rerun for later just like they did w the summer ones

[shell hazel]

or none if they're not great

[hollow lagoon]

i pulled my last naga and she broke into my top 5 waifus now

[gritty ridge]

I need them all

[shell hazel]

am ok skipping on gachas but do like some I have

[hollow lagoon]

maybe a selection banner like the summer one, but idk why they shoved xanne and rupee in it

[warm monolith]

I will go for the skin of Bay if she gets I wouldve wanted but its prob not happening,im broke anyway tho

[shell hazel]

they're too expensive for what they are really

[unique mountain]

[shell hazel]

tbh I actually like the bay outfit we got in the monthly thing

I'd not get a gacha skin for her, this one is good

[gritty ridge]

I have skipped 1 gacha and I want it

But it was on someone ill literally never use

[warm monolith]

Yeah,i called it MANY times Bay either would get a summer or bunny outfit,im sure the records are saved in the sub

[hollow lagoon]

one time i was in voice chat doing co-op with some union mates and we had to invite a random, and some dude came with siren i'm like: look at dis pesant, my fish is superior

[warm monolith]

Now we will wait for her summer skin...

[shell hazel]

I do love this standard helm outfit though, if I had this then the gacha one would have probably been skipped as well 😛

that and the noise one are great

[warm monolith]

Missed on this fire

[hollow lagoon]

i like that noise cloth more than her gatcha tbh

[shell hazel]

yeah for a standard skin I like this one

[shell hazel]

I did get siren one it's great

[hollow lagoon]

just means i love fish more than u

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/sakana-gif-26609517

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-wtf-face-gif-3910649995586292876

[shell hazel]

sounds fishy but checks out

[hollow lagoon]

oh boi tis time

[unique mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/lycoreco-lycoris-recoil-takina-chisato-sakana-gif-27011716

[hollow lagoon]

eah blue mg doll.... ninja delta?

[shell hazel]

I do hope we get more of this sometime

[shell hazel]

I get another one today, keep getting bad ones :9

[hollow lagoon]

maybe ill save it, rumor has it elegg might get treasure

[shell hazel]

I like to keep a float of 2-3 blue ones at least

then I trade extras away for materials

naturally give out dolls at R-0 to units that I think I'll build some day or w/e

[warm monolith]

[hollow lagoon]

the number of blue i keep depends on the number of purples present in my inventory, usually i keep +1 more than the said purple

[warm monolith]

Called it,and got it

At least a skin but still som love

[hollow lagoon]

bay skin was great

that rouge one tho......

[shell hazel]

I don't have purple dolls tbh, never get em lol

or it's like the same one 3 times

RL ones I had enough in general to give out now but not to all pve units :9

[hollow lagoon]

my friend keeps getting smg dolls

[shell hazel]

3 x AR ones

SG one prob for s.doro when I build

[hollow lagoon]

i have 3 ar too

[shell hazel]

you have a much better variety than me

[hollow lagoon]

yes

[warm monolith]

A lot of ppl were mad and happy at the same time but i think it was somewhat decent

[shell hazel]

eh rouge one was a skip

the DKW one was much better

[warm monolith]

Just convert the R ones guys?

[hollow lagoon]

i hate the face and the messy hair

[shell hazel]

rouge face looks weird on her gacha one

[shell hazel]

yeah eventually but like I said I like to keep 2-3 spare of each blue one

[warm monolith]

I dont remember looking at her face,it was like more white

[shell hazel]

she has like a diff face 😮

[hollow lagoon]

speaking of weird, that free rapi skin 's face is also bit weird.. like one of the eye is kinda strange

and very modernia face

[shell hazel]

well tbh the gacha skin wins for rapi

so I'm glad I have it, the free one is OK but it's not as good

[hollow lagoon]

ofcourse, gatcha skin makes rapi into red helm

[shell hazel]

red and blue versions ofc

[hollow lagoon]

ill take both i dont mind

needs 50 mil more

[warm monolith]

Speaking of rapi,this post made me realized something about her

[hollow lagoon]

ya gotta elaborate

[warm monolith]

Also why this subs profile is bay

[hollow lagoon]

is it the neck choker thingy

[warm monolith]

Why tho

[hollow lagoon]

why wot

[warm monolith]

I guess thats one of the thing that we might never get an answer for it

[hollow lagoon]

the neck choker>?

[warm monolith]

She isnt the only one w it to

[hollow lagoon]

prob to remind you that she got her head yeeted off one time in them story chapters

[warm monolith]

Also why they put a choker on a cheerleader

[warm monolith]

Huh? No she didnt?

[hollow lagoon]

[warm monolith]

You messing w me or youre being fr?

[hollow lagoon]

i can fact check it

but if i win what's the punishment

[warm monolith]

Why would i get a punishment for it😭

Though is this fr?

[shell hazel]

alright let's see what do I get

[warm monolith]

R*

[gritty ridge]

You get me

[shell hazel]

another AR doll lol

[shell hazel]

sadly I did not

[warm monolith]

So?

[gritty ridge]

Rip

[hollow lagoon]

chapter 2 baby

now i punish u to take bay off wishlist for 24 hours

[warm monolith]

Aight,for my punishment ill get a limit break of Bay

[warm monolith]

NOOOO

Aight:(

Though how did you guess she was in my wishlist?

[haughty mortar]

Should I bother with Moran or naw?

[gritty ridge]

Can I get an Sr rl doll today?

[haughty mortar]

Maybe? Ask John Shitup

[hollow lagoon]

i know u desprately want to change ur Cb6 in ur name into Cb7

[warm monolith]

Im close to 200 mileage tho,haha

And yeah,im gonna spent it on bay lb instead of getting t for tove

[slate falcon]

maybe i have belly button blindness because they look the same to me

[warm monolith]

The size of the second is a bit big tho

[slate falcon]

nah

idk

[haughty mortar]

Need to beat this guy please. Same guy as last time. Still only beat his first team only.

[slate falcon]

why delete?

what u said was vailed

[gritty ridge]

How did you lose t3? Youre 1rl

[lunar pawn]

ok time to test teams

[warm monolith]

Ive seen guys typed more awkward things man,dw

[gritty ridge]

Nah my freak must be leashed

[slate falcon]

yeah unleash it

gooo

[warm monolith]

Do yall heard of the term "geography is fate" throughout your life or is it just common in my country

[slate falcon]

first in blood line to hear that saying

[lunar pawn]

nope, recorded it but no point sharing the vid, to the surprise of no1 RH got 1 shot by thelm, and the team slowly died after that

[warm monolith]

Its a very common saying in my country,prob cuz im in middle east

[lunar pawn]

anyone got any ideas on how to beat this team?

[gritty ridge]

Yeah

[lunar pawn]

thinking maybe this team

[lunar pawn]

soda unbuilt

[gritty ridge]

[slate falcon]

why people using soda now did i miss something?

[obtuse dagger]

try siren

[gritty ridge]

Theres a solid chance siren wont stun noah

[obtuse dagger]

she ded before stun?

[gritty ridge]

If theres enough cs% on the team siren wont stun b2

[lunar pawn]

she might stun her but cindy might go invul with biscuit, it's up to scarlet counter rng

[tidal lichen]

swap noise with biscuit

and helm with besti

[warm monolith]

I think she gives hp or som idk

[gritty ridge]

Soda stuns 2 nikke at b1 timing

[lunar pawn]

that won't work

I'll replace noise with biscuit though, let's see

[tidal lichen]

make vesti your b3

not helm

[lunar pawn]

nope, didn't work

[lunar pawn]

tried that yesterday, doesn't work

[warm monolith]

Arent you in rookie arena? Go after another guy¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[slate falcon]

was just about to say that lamoo

[lunar pawn]

it's rookie arena, why are you afraid of losing?

whole point is to test teams here

[warm monolith]

Nikke players think the same at the same time

[obtuse dagger]

how's your vesti investment?

[slate falcon]

lamo

[lunar pawn]

lb1 sr15 101010

[gritty ridge]

Try this

[lunar pawn]

siren p1? to not trigger scarlet s2?

[gritty ridge]

Yup

[lunar pawn]

what about siren getting toasted

[gritty ridge]

Hopefully temper cube keeps her alive

[lunar pawn]

[rich ledge]

My defense got broken which one is likely the weak link I need too change?

[gritty ridge]

If siren dies in p1, you could try sac centi in p1

Testing time yippee

[lunar pawn]

will try siren

but centi just ruins the scarlet buff

[obtuse dagger]

if ammo is more than 16 i think its doable on 2rls T.vesti indom

[slate falcon]

id say team 2 idk

[gritty ridge]

Thats why I said if siren dies, if siren dies then centi dies most likely which means trina still bursts

[warm monolith]

Good night yall,im heading off

[gritty ridge]

Gnite

[rich ledge]

Any idea how to swap them to fix it?

[lunar pawn]

why, can't centi be jackal instead?

[gritty ridge]

That brings back the scar s2 problem

[slate falcon]

@gritty ridge your up

[gritty ridge]

[lunar pawn]

I thought only shotguns would fire at your p5 in defense?

[tidal lichen]

id swap rumani with centi and put blanc p4

a built besti can mess with your indom by nuking blanc before burst

[gritty ridge]

Sir if any of the links are hit scar p2 activates

Assuming scar is linked

[lunar pawn]

links would be scar and helm though, not in any position to get attacked

[unique mountain]

Wrong chat

[slate falcon]

i can only identify the problem i suck at fixing

[gritty ridge]

As long as jackal is in p5 you could try

[gritty ridge]

T3 is too slow

[lunar pawn]

I'll try

[slate falcon]

Not that think about it you could swap Helm for Rumani, that’s the team im currently running

[lunar pawn]

ok tried it twice, 1 win 1 loss, siren barely hanging on, lost 2nd time cus siren died before the stun

[slate falcon]

Or Maiden

[hollow lagoon]

my friend legit got rapihood while puling delta

[gritty ridge]

I see, too rng then

Your tempura is lvl 7?

@rich ledge can you run this?

[lunar pawn]

yea

[rich ledge]

I just don't have dupes for treasure laplace I can use maiden?

[gritty ridge]

Hmm, try this rq, no cube on centi

[gritty ridge]

Lap is a little faster, youd have to put quantum on her and noah

[lunar pawn]

not gonna try that but thanks

[rich ledge]

Quantum is used in scarlet team already

[gritty ridge]

You hate me

[lunar pawn]

centi in p1 is just too much cope

[gritty ridge]

Only lvl 3?

[gritty ridge]

I guess I guess

[rich ledge]

Lvl 7 only has 4 slots

[gritty ridge]

Scar team only uses 2

[slate falcon]

Is 7 the minimum for cubes in PvP?

[rich ledge]

Oh I was using 3 on it to have 2RL previously

2 on scarlet is 99.15 RL2 haha

[gritty ridge]

It should be 2rl if you put one on anis and trina

[rich ledge]

This is ok?

[gritty ridge]

Ah I see the problem

Use centi instead of rumani

[rich ledge]

Oh I thought their speed is ard the same

[gritty ridge]

Nah

Tad bit different

[slate falcon]

Can you send the link to this site please

[rich ledge]

https://nikke-deck.web.app

[rich ledge]

Oh yea it's lvl 8

[gritty ridge]

Oh that was fir doppel lol

You can put it on noise and then whoever you want

Unless vigor is the same level

[rich ledge]

Vigor is at 5 only

[gritty ridge]

Go with tempura on her then

[lunar pawn]

thoughts?

[gritty ridge]

Holy shit is that rrh

You can give it a try

Idk if no buff rrh will cut it tho

[lunar pawn]

redpi was the answer lol

[gritty ridge]

[rich ledge]

If I swap maiden for laplace do I change the positions or I put maiden in the same position as laplace?

[gritty ridge]

You can put maiden the same spot

I will let you know tho that youre only 3rl with maiden instead of t.lap

[rich ledge]

Oo then is there a point for the 2 quantum cubes there? It says 2.5 RL should be able to block nukes with Noah anyway?

[gritty ridge]

How much cs is on helm?

8% or more?

[unborn shuttle]

Everything u told me to build is ol (except for vesti and trina boots, ill get those later) skill 5 and sr5
What now?

[rich ledge]

Yup

[gritty ridge]

Youre 2.5 then

[rich ledge]

15% cs

[gritty ridge]

Ooh thats alot

Nice rolls

[rich ledge]

This is the person who broke the def, not sure what he used

[gritty ridge]

Tbf every team is beatable

[rich ledge]

Yea haha I think just gotta switch to make them try and figure out

[unborn shuttle]

So, can someone make me 3 (or 2 if 3 is not possible) teams?

[rich ledge]

For vesti team, ada should be last spot right? In case shotgun targets rumani and make her invuln

[gritty ridge]

Wdym, theres no bisc

[rich ledge]

From Blanc indom

[gritty ridge]

Also if these are defense sg wont ever hit your p5

[rich ledge]

Oh on defense nobody would hit p5?

[gritty ridge]

You can put ada p5 if she links tho, lil extra feed from sniper

[gritty ridge]

Snipers do, but its not that big a worry

[rich ledge]

Because on attack cos they had ASS my anis got indomed so I was thinking

[gritty ridge]

Yeah defending shotguns target p5, attacking snipers hit p5

Afaik thats it

[rich ledge]

Yea Ada and vesti are the only attackers so they will jackal link

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

post box again

nvm i see u already did

[gritty ridge]

Hi echo

[haughty mortar]

Don't ask me. Not sure LAWLZ

[keen vapor]

[haughty mortar]

Any tips?

[gritty ridge]

You wanna look over the teams I gave elkay?

[keen vapor]

He has invested Rosanna? Looks good

Also high CS Vesti?

[gritty ridge]

Just 11% is enough for noise to be siren proof iirc

[keen vapor]

Noise doesn't needs to be built siren proof : frog sip: Noah does

[gritty ridge]

Gimme some time ill take a look

[haughty mortar]

Thanks ma dude!

[gritty ridge]

As long as noise has taunt prio silly

[rich ledge]

Vesti 10% CS now and Rosanna 39% attack

[haughty mortar]

I have upgraded my noise's 2nd gear to OL. She is missing 2 pieces

[keen vapor]

That's why I said Noah needs to be built

[gritty ridge]

Wait

Why am I thinking of noise and noah

Vesti is on jackal

[keen vapor]

[rich ledge]

Do u all oveoad ur SR anis?

[gritty ridge]

Im used to the team i personally run

[rich ledge]

I still haven't went and overload her

[keen vapor]

This may be my favorite shrug
"Beats me" vibes

[keen vapor]

I did

[gritty ridge]

I will eventually

[slate falcon]

Thoughts💭

[gritty ridge]

Bad

[keen vapor]

Siren will die

[rich ledge]

Don't use doro use another clip SG like soda

[keen vapor]

Along with Noah

[tropic summit]

upgrade to these

naga siren trina rumani cindy
noah biscuit ein rh xmaiden
midhara laplaceT helmT blanc rapunzel

next step is upgrading your jackal, SR5, 4/4/4, 4OL, this allows you to run indom teams

[slate falcon]

Dont got soda that’s why I use doro

[keen vapor]

It still won't fix team main problems

[rich ledge]

Anyway SG on defense is bad easily countered by attacker team with jackal because of the feed

[slate falcon]

🙂‍↔️

Will ToveT fix it?

[tropic summit]

run scarlet trina liter centi jackal in union shooting range, access pause menu, check scarlet has jumping jackal buff

[rich ledge]

No, #pvp-arena message

Can you do one of these?

[keen vapor]

Survivability sir! problem is survivability, not other kind of buff

[slate falcon]

Oh

[rich ledge]

Normally the main teams are revolving around scarlet, vesti, Cindy for the 3 defense

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit can i use t.poli in spa?

[keen vapor]

No

[gritty ridge]

[keen vapor]

I saw that

[slate falcon]

Some send me a LaplaseT pls

[gritty ridge]

No

[haughty mortar]

Yes she has Jumping Jackal Flash

[tropic summit]

run these teams

(you're on the left)

[keen vapor]

Music

[tropic summit]

keripo actually recommended using tpoli in SG team

[unborn shuttle]

i c i c, please do send me the jackal upgrade again so i dont have to ping u again later when i do upgrade it
no need to send the rl thing if thats more work

[gritty ridge]

I didnt need keripo to tell me t.poli sg team is great

[tropic summit]

won't need it yet, run the current 3 defs i gave you, if and when they break them, you can add an indom team variation

you'll need jackal regardless for attack teams so don't worry

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/poli-nikke-dog-commander-gacha-gif-9445538349954016067

[unborn shuttle]

"break" meaning losing the battle?

[gritty ridge]

Poli is such a cutie

[tropic summit]

yes defense teams are temporary, you'll need to regularly change them once the opponents beat them

[gritty ridge]

I really like her en voice too

[tropic summit]

desuyon

[gritty ridge]

?

[unborn shuttle]

ahh, got it
so i dont need to level jackal for now? (im almost out of blue doll mats and anniv is soon so)

[haughty mortar]

T2 and t3 loss

[tropic summit]

jackal is very high in priority

[tropic summit]

did you check CP?

you should know the drill by now

[haughty mortar]

No, I trust the railgun!

[unborn shuttle]

got it, thanks

[tropic summit]

i don't have a magic crystall ball to know by heart your CP and the enemy

[haughty mortar]

I am 200k over them

Across 3 teams

[gritty ridge]

Rich people problems

[tropic summit]

how the f T2 lost tho

fine you'll just scarlet their T3

[haughty mortar]

Whot? How?

What should my T3 be?

[unborn shuttle]

well, she is now built, whats the upgrade lol
sorry for asking for a team over and over, but u did tell me to do so

[tropic summit]

no upgrade yet, run the current 3 defs and wait for them to be broken

[unborn shuttle]

got it, and for the attack team just do the same?

[haughty mortar]

Imma try this next reset ><

[tropic summit]

@haughty mortar run scarlet team in union shooting range 1st to ensure scarlet is linked

if laplaceT steals the buff, run centi or xmaiden instead

[tropic summit]

no, attack is based on what you facing

[unborn shuttle]

and... how do i know what teams to run? do i have to ask here separately each time?

[rich ledge]

Unless u know what to run. If not you can ask

[unborn shuttle]

got it, thanks that should be all

[tropic summit]

you can run these general purpose teams, but it would be great if you learned the counters

for the time being don't run the ein team into blanc or noah teams

as for your own noah team, you can run that against enemy scarlet teams

[haughty mortar]

RH gets jacked

[tropic summit]

RH is fine, what about scarlet and lappy

[unborn shuttle]

i'll run that for the time being then

[haughty mortar]

Don't have xmaid

[unborn shuttle]

thanks!

[tropic summit]

ok ye so scarlet is buffless

[haughty mortar]

Scarlet gets nothing

[tropic summit]

can run the standard scar-blanc-rh

[haughty mortar]

Then I'll need 3 new teams total as RH cannot be in 2 teams

[tropic summit]

it's already changed, check again

[tropic summit]

@haughty mortar

#pvp-arena message

[haughty mortar]

Can you give me a T2 just for kicks?

[tropic summit]

auto it

staff w/e is on highest CP

[haughty mortar]

I'll have to Centi if I want Scarlet to get Jacked

[tropic summit]

that's fine just ensure CP is in range

enemy will promote you between 1.5RL to 2RL anyway

[haughty mortar]

OK now I am like this

[tropic summit]

as cindy in p1 gives you 1.75x extra burst gen on RL units

[tropic summit]

you need to multiply each enemy team CP for 0.846

[haughty mortar]

I don't have Cindy ><

[tropic summit]

the number that comes out needs to be lower than your team CP

[tropic summit]

it's enemy cindy

[haughty mortar]

Oh

That's why I ask the pros! OK imma wait till tomorrow. Or is it worth me experimenting with 100 gems?

[tropic summit]

depends on you, i'd wait not worth spendin so close to end of season

and save up the gems for anni instead

[haughty mortar]

Truth

What about def teams?

[rich ledge]

I can't wait to bump from my sync to 421 when anni comes though through saving I'm already getting close to 421

I can go 431 with my current boxes

[haughty mortar]

Why wait?

Push to at least 421 if you're stuck anyway. And keep pushing levels.

[rich ledge]

Because there will be 2 more chapters when anni comes out that should be 2 cores per hr more

[haughty mortar]

True. Where are you campaign wise?

[rich ledge]

Hard 31

[haughty mortar]

I am hard stuck at 24-34 ><

Hitting 341 tomorrow, and I will wait then.

[rich ledge]

Normal campaign you still can progress quite fast

Once that's finished and you are on hard you can only push it every few weeks

Or maybe every month

Hopefully I can treasure laplace during anni pull, gonna have around 100 standard recruit by then

[haughty mortar]

I am certain I'll be able to blitz through normal campaign no problem. As for hard, I did 1.8 chapters in 2 days (23 and 24 up to 24-34), having had to halt on this cancer level for 2 days now. I am hoping that the bump from 341 and a little malding will help me.
I am trying to Treasure Viper. She'll be my 5th.

NOT. ENOUGH. DOLL. MATS!!!

[rich ledge]

You may want to save ur mats for more important units first

Most treasures are useless only useful is like laplace, helm, bay, Tove, drake, Miranda

Bay is only got pvp the rest are quite niche, and for viper u don't want to activate reenter burst 2 upgrade for it or it will brick viper for pvp

[gritty ridge]

Ive noticed you didnt mention poli

The slayer of defending sg

[keen vapor]

Poli Mihara Biscuit Rumani Cinderella

[umbral crown]

But what about gemming in sp

[mystic rain]

i mean idk.... my own moran can tank cindy burst but then again ive never fought blanc cindy either

blanc should make it oossible

[rich ledge]

Poli doesn't seem that game changing yet?

[gritty ridge]

Glorified makima comp lmao

[fast nest]

If lucky, helmT can snipe vesti. no?
What I mean is Rapunzel's stun, when her hp is below 30%, may delay enemy's 1st burst for 1sec.
Ah rumani is at p1.

[eternal finch]

Well, finally got one more a Bay. Any recs for DEF teams, maybe a stall team?

[hoary maple]

Hero is now hugh jass

[keen vapor]

@umbral crown gemmer he's gemming against my entire bracket and trying to mock us

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

The guy at lucky six to be clear

[swift mango]

Moran surviving alone thanks to biscuit doesn't mean anything.

[umbral crown]

thats me

[mystic rain]

i didnt mention biscuit

[swift mango]

Or bay. Or Noah.

[mystic rain]

and i mean the whole team survives vs a regular cindy but thats cuz its moran nero stall

only helm dies cuz of ele but thats it

[gritty ridge]

Wtf happened to vesti, that was scary

[swift mango]

That's thanks to Nero buffing other units DR as well.

[mystic rain]

cdr?

swords r u drunk this morning

[mystic rain]

yea tru plus its moran burst and tempe and nero s1

[swift mango]

Just 1 extra C.

[mystic rain]

its a different outcome if its vs blanc debuff tho

havent seen that matchup yet but on paper if cindy can outstall noah shield then blanc debuff + cindy burst should kill moran noah vesti

[swift mango]

You don't need Blanc debuff to win against Nero stall. Just Midhara+Cindy alone is enough. So long as Midhara hit Rapu.

[mystic rain]

well thats 2 dps doing dmg instead of one

if only one dps blanc debuff is the only counter to dmg reduction

[swift mango]

That's why Slow Cindy with Midhara + Blanc is sure win against Nero stall. Even if Nero stall investment diff them.

[mystic rain]

yea i can imagine it

[swift mango]

People switch to 2RL Bay because it at least has a chance to beat slow cindy base on investment diff.

[mystic rain]

2RL bay is expensive tho

3RL nero is cheap in comparison

[swift mango]

And lose to Nero stall at same investment.

[mystic rain]

but then again we also do have the units to field 2RL bay anyway

[fast nest]

Noise Noah Cindy HelmT LaplaceT.
Would it be okay to be used in CA? it is 2RL team.
Would it be effective?

[mystic rain]

what kinda investment diff u mean

core diff?

[swift mango]

You only go 2rl Bay stall if you had Emi. In bracket without Emi, bay+Moran useless.

[mystic rain]

yea thats hard

[mystic rain]

too much speed in one team

[fast nest]

I am okay. I just wonder if it would be okay or not.

[mystic rain]

esp in champs where u want to spread ur speed across 5 teams

[swift mango]

It's fine until 4 SG shotting at your Noise.

[fast nest]

Hmm. That was my worried point. hmm.
If noah set 21% cs, then noise will be hit 3 shots and fourth would be to Noah. Then..?

[mystic rain]

21 cs noah will override taunt prio from noise?

[swift mango]

You need you Noise+Noah 21% and Helm+LapT 15% for that

[fast nest]

SG' 4th shot is right after noah's shot.

[mystic rain]

how much cs on noise r u talking abt

[fast nest]

0

[mystic rain]

bruh

[crystal flicker]

Running 2RL Cindy is very risky in CA

[mystic rain]

shouldnt u be running it the other way around then where taunt prio is on noah instead of noise

[swift mango]

Auto lose to slow Cindy. SG on Noise. Soda Scarlet. 2rl Bay, Vesti Indom/Noah. Pretty much every team on the copy pasta line up.

[mystic rain]

so noise p1 tanks 3SG shots

[fast nest]

SG's 4th shot is right after Noah's shoot.
I wondered if this help noise's survival to her burst.

[mystic rain]

noah on p2 would still only taunt p1 and p2 4th SG shot

how confident r u ur noise will survive till b1

[fast nest]

idk. That's why I am asking

You guys may know if noise will survive or not.

[swift mango]

At least 190% win against SG if they replace Lap with Rumani

[mystic rain]

depends on SG investment as well

[fast nest]

hmmm

[swift mango]

Probably not. Just bring Rumani for 100% win rate against SG. But still 100% lose rate against everything else on the copy pasta list.

[fast nest]

I am considering to change my deck.
I am running SBS jackal blanc, 3RL cindy. I am in low lvl server btw.
I may swipe to 'jackal ada blanc rumani' and '2RL cindy'.

[mystic rain]

ADA TOP TIER PVP????

should i build ada for pvp as well

[fast nest]

No one use it as far as I know.

but I am in low lvl CA, so it can be good option.

expecting 1granade 1shotkill

[mystic rain]

she is pretty new

havent seen much of ada in pvp tbh

[fast nest]

many of them use in vesti team parts.
Such as Jackal TVesti Ada blanc LaplaceT

[leaden canyon]

What yall think

Was thinking of doing something funny to make the scar team scarlet helm emilia trina jackal which would make it burst before most teams b1 even bursts

[brave sky]

Do I need to put my defense team in reverse order?

[keen vapor]

No

[leaden canyon]

auto burst goes from left to right

[brave sky]

Thank you

[umbral crown]

[gritty ridge]

Noise is like, 7 7 10 or something right?

[leaden canyon]

yeah mine is at least

I think if you mainly pvp you can do all 10 but im not 100% sure

[gritty ridge]

I need to put mats into other units too so I need her min max for now

[leaden canyon]

4/7/10 if you are really min maxing

Forgot I got more cs on my jackal so I can do this instead

[gritty ridge]

Dair you always make the most interesting teams

[leaden canyon]

The vesti team isn't mine, I got help with it in here yesterday, the scar team was my opponents team but a bit faster than what he was running

if I put jackal instead of noise it kinda forces you to throw a lot at it to beat its burst or you can try to kill it with the mihara stall team

[gritty ridge]

I see

[leaden canyon]

Granted this version is already fast af

[leaden canyon]

damn I forgot at 2.5 I'm pretty sure jackal can get siren stunned

guess I replace xmaiden with rumani

Guess its this

[rich ledge]

What is Nero Moran team weak against?

[leaden canyon]

A lot of things. It can be stunned, you can straight up nuke it with vesti or super buffed scarlet

Its not a very friendly team to run, it requires a lot of heavy investments to even squeak by

[rich ledge]

So I can nuke it like this right?

[gritty ridge]

No

[leaden canyon]

nah cindy nuke wont be enough and it also hits later than a scar or vesti nuke would

[dire root]

Rip

[gritty ridge]

Rh trina cindy might have a chance

But noise noah theres no way

[leaden canyon]

also thats a 3rl moran team unless he has enough cs on rapu

[rich ledge]

Ok I'll do these 2 then

[leaden canyon]

do noah biscuit cindy helm hood

nvm

scar team you could do scarlet blanc hood trina jackal

thats what I do

although yours should still kill

both should work

If your scar has enough to kill through moran burst that is

thats why I sometimes do blanc

as a just in case thing

[gritty ridge]

No trina

Ruins indom and doesnt buff scar dmg

[leaden canyon]

My indom is fine when I do it

Guess I have something different going on for mine

[gritty ridge]

It can easily cause misindom due to making scar invul

[leaden canyon]

oh yeah that

have not had that happen when I use mine

but good call I forgot about that

[gritty ridge]

I personally use helm for my scar indom

Puts me close enough that I can reasonably expect enough feed to 2rl

[leaden canyon]

I guess that's a lot of feed he's also getting because Nero moran and mana

[gritty ridge]

Yup

[leaden canyon]

so yeah both of those should work

[gritty ridge]

I believe scar blanc rh helm jackal is 92% 2rl?

[rich ledge]

Yup done

[leaden canyon]

nice

[rich ledge]

Just that me defense is not working well and 2 people are attacking me now it's annoying

[long chasm]

For this did noise will taunt enemys from scarlet pasif? And how long burst gen in team 2?

[rich ledge]

Too many people haha I can only deal with 1 person to hit back

[long chasm]

My sp deff right now kinda good

[leaden canyon]

I dont understand the noise question. the burst gen is 2.5 on team 2 only because I have enough charge speed on noah, biscuit and vesti, noah will burst in time to block nukes

[long chasm]

Really deffense againt monster CP

[long chasm]

Noise basic attack taunt enemy right? So enemy wont hit scarlet and scarlet passive when counter attack when get hit wont active? And triana buff indom 2sec become useless?

Sorrry for bad english😂

[leaden canyon]

noise will taunt the two front units with her basic attack, however this team bursts so quick that it will burst before most 2rl teams

[rich ledge]

He is just asking the scarlet counter is wasted haha

[leaden canyon]

eh scar is there to nuke

the counter isn't really my worry on it

Considering people just kill scar teams with mihara stall now

this is to burst really quick and then hopefully heal through mihara stall if they are using it

[long chasm]

👌

[rich ledge]

How can it heal through mihara tho?

Unless you burst with helm then the healing can be much more?

[leaden canyon]

Depends on how much mihara will hurt you, you burst super quick so hopefully you kill mihara before she can ramp up enough stacks on you before she dies.

kind of a fingers crossed moment

[rich ledge]

I think as long as Blanc cannot indom in time then you don't need to worry about it

[leaden canyon]

that too

[leaden canyon]

I usually do this on offense but I think blanc healing might be overkill?

[rich ledge]

If u use Blanc then Trina doesn't burst to buff scarlet, their team is also too slow to indom so you don't have to indom with Blanc also I think

[leaden canyon]

idk if I have tried it without blanc yet

I'll try it if I get a chance next time

oh you know i guess I could use M.anchor instead of blanc and burst with trina

her skill 1 buffs team hp potency by 30% on entering full burst

I think I'll try that next time

[rich ledge]

I have this against mihara team before

[leaden canyon]

ah yeah, problem is my noah and biscuit are needed for another team because I'm at a cp deficit on the other team

[uncut cradle]

Does true damage pierce thru noah burst?

[leaden canyon]

no

nothing does

[uncut cradle]

Alrightt thankss

[tropic summit]

don't give them bad advise near anni

[keen vapor]

@tropic summit were getting him (formerly Hero) to gem

He's provoking us

[onyx scaffold]

are u saying that we can give bad advice when not near anni?

[tropic summit]

wowie such bully, did the def work at least once?

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/hp-harry-potter-snape-always-stare-gif-17584635

[keen vapor]

It worked consistently against Schim

[tropic summit]

invest your rosanna so you can bully better

[keen vapor]

My rocks ain't rocking

Haven't got good lines for quite a while

At this point I'm hoarding till next banners

[onyx scaffold]

how good is my 2SR team?

[keen vapor]

very meta

[tropic summit]

what are you using that for

[obtuse dagger]

looks like tetra tower for me

[mystic rain]

make it 4 SR

[swift mango]

Yeah if you had to gem, gem in rookie

[swift mango]

That's my tetra tower team, replace the right one with Rossanna

[mystic rain]

or actually maybe u can drop alice and keep sanis and bmilk instead

[swift mango]

I remember they said milk even more auto unfriendly than Alice

[mystic rain]

yes but milk has actual aoe

[swift mango]

Yeah, she looks okay but 1 Alice is enough for me.

[mystic rain]

alice powercreep

is here.

🧎‍♂️

[swift mango]

Nah both useless units to me.

[tropic summit]

there's 100% someone doin' it

[swift mango]

It's okay, no one here is as bricked as me except rakuen anyway..

But it's because he pull whenever he got 3000 gem

I meant I'm so bricked it couldn't be me who gem

[tropic summit]

@covert lintel is this true? if yes,

[swift mango]

At least he had ticket saved

[pseudo arch]

Im going with this in defense any advise?

Vesti is swapped with sbs

[swift mango]

If Siren linked move her to p1. Scar p4

[pseudo arch]

Its linked to trina, testes just now

[swift mango]

Rest of the teams kinda eh, good luck.

[shell hazel]

[swift mango]

Now you cook.

[shell hazel]

you want some pasta?

[swift mango]

You could actually swap Jackal and Scarlet if you wanted to avoid your scarlet being stunned by Siren. If you scarlet has zero ammo line then it doesn't matter. Nvm me.

[pseudo arch]

Ty

[swift mango]

Gimme pineapple pasta.

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/cook-hello-gif-2755446217296855335

with the pineapple pasta being cooked I'm going to go and cook some ronin in Ezo again

[tropic summit]

why prefer wind code link over elec or iron link?
why not jackal siren trina centi scarlet?

you've vestiTU yourself

[swift mango]

Vesti doesn't discriminate p1 or 2 or 3.

If Siren scarlet both link you take double dmg. Move siren p1 scar p4 and it's only 1/3. Even with Ele bonus.

[tropic summit]

playing games on monday, someone's on vacation eh

[tropic summit]

ah you're trying to reduce dmg taken, if vesti that team is dead regardless it's 1/3 or 2/3, cuz wind code

at least i don't think positioning at that point is any relevant, unless siren goes to p4

[swift mango]

Not that much useless synch shot or Vesti has way to protect against wipe

[tropic summit]

didn't think it would make much difference against that team, i see both version dying to it

[swift mango]

My Rei survived until burst here. For example

Because she only took 1/3 dmg

[tropic summit]

looks like a weak vesti

[swift mango]

Max core

[tropic summit]

max core but with 0 ele and low atk%

noway unlinked blanc lives

[swift mango]

Even with 100% Ele. It's only x2 dmg. Rei has effective x3 HP here.

[swift mango]

Blanc p3 with Tempering and core +2.

Could survive pretty fine to burst.if not getting crited

Or Emi

[tropic summit]

run your vesti team against similar team you'll probably murder an equivalent blanc

that's the HP above pre B3

noway blanc is still above 50%

[swift mango]

Not really. Only synch shot murder that much. Blanc only got shot on by Vesti alone

Unless they built Vesti 100% Ele FR but not many people do that.

[tropic summit]

we had a few lads here getting deleted by vestiTU alone before, so i've very mixed opinion on this

and she wasn't even hitting ele weak units

[swift mango]

The got gapped. Or Vesti shotting p2 synching with other units. I never able to kill a Blanc p3 max doll with my Vesti alone

[tropic summit]

• highly can't recommend unprotected noah, T2 is begging for shotguns or any early damage team to deny your shield
• T3 can get rosanna'ed to deny your main B3 or siren'ed
• T1 will either get skipped, indommed, noah'ed or bay'ed

when making defense teams assume your defense is as good as your 2 worst teams, in this case you've 3 overall abusable teams, back to the drawing board imo

[swift mango]

People often put their link p1+2/3. That's how it got murder. As Vesti hit both linked units.

Blanc and Noah p2 too. You die to other units.

Or you got unlucky meeting 100% Ele Vesti.

[tropic summit]

i'd link the several attempts of this past week but i'm too lazy to scroll up, there's been non-ele weak units getting deleted by vestiTU alone within 2RL, but i'll leave it as that

reason to why ppl were forced to run invulnerable p1, essentially sacc p2 and sustained/tanky p3

[swift mango]

I have tested it myself and my average investment Vesti can't do it. You need more than mine investments on Vesti to do it. Which isn't hard but not that common either.

[tropic summit]

hope so, because it denies so many teams it's almost ridicolous

[swift mango]

Don't put Blanc on p2 against Vesti because it's certain dead.

[swift mango]

Blanc need to have max doll and tempering ofc

[tropic summit]

blanc p2 was already dead thanks to emilia/laplaceT and scarlet anyway

[swift mango]

Vesti could synch shot with common RL like Centi too. Abeit worse result.

[tropic summit]

@swift mango looks like SU doesn't think sync shoot is a bug btw

1 month in and still nothing

intended feature

time to get those CS% on laplaceT and vestiTU if i happen to get OLs

[swift mango]

I rolled for ReiT ammo today and 3 CS.

Then I tried Noah and got hit rate

15 rocks for nada

Guess l'm making zero improvement from last CA. 2 week farm for nothing.

[tropic summit]

oof

[rich ledge]

Help my def getting bullied

[tropic summit]

post your box

[pseudo arch]

I went with the Classic once but i would like to change the scar team idk who to replace in t1

[tropic summit]

T2 retains siren weakness
T3 retains SG weakness
T1 retains noah/bay/indom weakness

i suggest you work on those weaknesses, cindy team can be ran on 2.5RL

[pseudo arch]

K

[rich ledge]

there still somemore below let me know if you need anything specific

[tropic summit]

try these

noise noah vestiTU biscuit rumani
jackal s.anis blanc xmaiden helmT
scarlet drakeT blanc rapunzel centi

[rich ledge]

Oo ASS comes out haha

why are we using 2 3RL teams though?

[rich ledge]

oh yea T2 and T3 both are using blanc

[shell hazel]

blanc cloning overpowered

[shell hazel]

yup! lol

[hollow lagoon]

my naga's cp went over my siren

so i rolled my naga lower

tbh i changed 1 ammo line and 2 pad for 1crit and and 1 ele line. overall should be better still have 21 ammo after the fact

[covert lintel]

How did you know

[covert lintel]

True sir

[rich ledge]

its public holiday here today

[onyx scaffold]

Nayuta pvp mechanic
Each dupe allows her to be revived once

[swift mango]

See this ads? It's City building war game in the end.

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

blanc in T3 is trina

[rich ledge]

ok then should be 2 2 RL teams haha

[unique mountain]

They have a fireplace and are burning a bonfire in front of it

[empty imp]

@tropic summit i'm back with all the required nikkes upgraded!

[tropic summit]

trina centi cindy laplaceT siren
jackal s.anis xmaiden blanc helmT
noise rumani vestiTU emilia noah

@empty imp if CP is bad on T1 because of centi + trina, sub centi with naga and give trina quantum

[swift mango]

I think I will reinstall Masterduel and play

At least I have a winning chance laying yugioh unlike this game rock roll.

[rich ledge]

haha its the usual

[swift mango]

Time to rock my Gusto deck again. Surely a few years of new cards won't make my deck unwinable.

[wise horizon]

looks good before i attack?

[rich ledge]

no rosanna can nuke ur SBS and u will have no B3 and noah may block ur scarlet

im not sure if ur scarlet can nuke before the noah invuln

[swift mango]

Should be fine. You pretty much cp gap them. could even use Scarlet to hit Vesti. They won't make a dent on you,.. Just auto team 1 and you would win it, then add other 2 wins on top and it's 3/3 wipe.

You current 2 teams aren't CP gap them though. But the level diff should work on your favor.

[jagged mesa]

@tropic summit

[jagged mesa]

Nothing

I just wanted to tag for no reason

[tropic summit]

[umbral belfry]

bully him rail

[jagged mesa]

@umbral belfry

[onyx scaffold]

You attacked?

[umbral belfry]

@jagged mesa

[onyx scaffold]

@everyone

[tropic summit]

even the @ everyone

[onyx scaffold]

@mods

[crystal flicker]

THat means he likes everyone

[gritty ridge]

Do not

Goodmorning yall

[shell hazel]

[keen vapor]

@umbral belfry

[keen vapor]

Yeah, I knew from bots this tag just doesn't works

[umbral belfry]

[umbral belfry]

[keen vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1026322546934698004.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=whyyysnapped

[warm monolith]

I did the atk teams,no deficit i think,i fear the T1 might lose? But im going for T1 and T3 whats your thoughts?@tropic summit

I fear scar might die easily

The T1 is 713k against 811k and i think i would be in deficit if im lower than 686k,is my math correct?

[covert lintel]

Even if siren is being changed to midhara, my mpriv will still wipe it

[spare nimbus]

Just do scarlet siren trina centi jackal, noise noah vesti helm laplace, blanc mihara rumani biscuit xmaiden

rh instead of siren could also work

Just make sure to put rh in p3

[scarlet adder]

this will be the dumbest fight ever

[warm monolith]

No rh,xmaiden and no build trina,noise thats why i run these

[scarlet adder]

xD

[rich ledge]

my helm has 4.33, 3.16, 4.63, 3.45 CS so how much CS is that actually? 4 + 3 + 5 + 3 = 15%?

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[jagged mesa]

calling the mods to calculate for you damn

[real ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/combustable-lemon-gif-16047076837793951543

[real ocean]

nah there was a scammer

[rich ledge]

my vesti has 3.75 3.75 2.57 = 8 + 3 = 11 %?

[real ocean]

his name was lemon

[rich ledge]

haha i think hes just joking

[jagged mesa]

im gonna ignore that and pretend that elkay called the mods to do his calculations

[quick lake]

Round(3.75 + 3.75 ) =8

[rich ledge]

ok so my calculations are all correct then

[quick lake]

yepp

iirc, vesti has 0.5% increments

so rounding works slightly different for her

i dont think cs matters that much. Ard 5% or 10% plus is fine

[gritty ridge]

We should do that more often, right @moderator

[rich ledge]

hmm how does the adjutant cube CS work then?

[gritty ridge]

You get 2%

[quick lake]

Just add 2%

[rich ledge]

does it also have the same rounding? lvl 5 or lvl 7 both are 2%?

[quick lake]

both 2% ironically

[gritty ridge]

Yes

Still need lvl 15 tho

[keen vapor]

7.5 rounds up

[rich ledge]

haha there tempura 1st tho

[placid bloom]

where the 26% cs gods

[rich ledge]

or is CS more meta now already everyone is making faster RL

[placid bloom]

you only really need tempering on p1 and stall

[quick lake]

tempering more impt imo. cs cube kinda eh imo

[placid bloom]

you can put on p5 for some teams that don't naturally have anti-SG p5

but most likely you lose anyway

[covert lintel]

Tempering and burst gen

[rich ledge]

quantum for burst gen only help a little few .X% so technically only need afew

[gritty ridge]

Quantum 7>tempura lvl 500>vigor 7>adjutant imo

[placid bloom]

Idk if vigor even that important

you are more likely to live with tempering Cinderella than vigor

the extra damage is nothing

[quick lake]

nuh uh, tempering most impt. then cs then quantum imo

[gritty ridge]

Yeah but if I put vigor on vindy and noise its nice looking

[gritty ridge]

Thats what I did but rail called me brick

[quick lake]

[gritty ridge]

My tempura is lvl 7 and my quantum lvl 5

[covert lintel]

Vigor is used to adjust who will most likely get blanc buff

For example, to patch up low hp sr anis

[quick lake]

vigor for defenders is fine too

[covert lintel]

[gritty ridge]

Vigor goes on noise

And blanc maybe

Idk

Put quantum on blanc idc

[covert lintel]

Btw how was my double buff mpriv @quick lake

[lunar pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/dungeonsoup-barbarian-squirt-of-lemon-gif-15079176919525461930

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit

Think it'll be consistent for p1?

Recording stopped for some reason so you dont get the start

[charred wedge]

Guess what I can do is use just 2 teams only.

[gritty ridge]

T2 you were too slow

Its indom scar, you need to nuke it ideally before they burst

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/castorice-honkai-star-rail-star-rail-rice-fried-rice-gif-15126117275146411567

[gritty ridge]

That was the comp I showed you yesterday, you wanted to know the pre-b2 hp

[tropic summit]

as rheax mentioned, you want to stall scar after she indomed or kill her before she does.

atm you're overcommitting to one team (jackal and noah in same team is generally taboo)

you can def. beat this opponent, if you want and when you're free post the matchup and your box, we can help you

[tropic summit]

clearly within keikaku

[twilit bay]

How to I beat this? Helm somehow out heals Vesti Blanc

[gritty ridge]

[tropic summit]

T1 is fine as long as cindy gets her biscuit stack early on, although risky
T2 you're ded
T3 you're dead

[warm monolith]

How on T3

[tropic summit]

try noah biscuit helmt ros laplaceT/emilia

[tropic summit]

cindy nuke is delayed, its RNG based on who you hit but you may let them indom anyway

are those teams different from yesterday btw?

[warm monolith]

Oh,alright

[warm monolith]

Yeah

He adapts

[tropic summit]

so he's running nero/moran now to punish your lack of RH

albeit a weaker version of nero moran

[twilit bay]

Rosanna took out Helm. Thank you

[gritty ridge]

MA rail going into overdrive

[warm monolith]

So,what do i do?

[gritty ridge]

Hmm, cindy trina noise may nuke?

Its iffy tho

Liter possibly

Maybe???

Idk

No that wouldnt work

[warm monolith]

No noise build:( also moran and anis

[gritty ridge]

Bottom is enemy team

[warm monolith]

Oh,still my trina is weak so i might have issues but it could work

[gritty ridge]

This would be better, u probably dont have mana built tho

[warm monolith]

Yeah,you know me now

[gritty ridge]

Nah rapu version wont work, liter needs to burst

How is your rosa

[warm monolith]

No build either

[gritty ridge]

[warm monolith]

Im building vesti tho

[tropic summit]

that lineup is designed to punish all the units you lack, in particular RH, rosanna and vestiTU

building up your rosanna and vestiTU would be making it easier

[rich ledge]

Wow the opponent is so smart and analyse him well

[gritty ridge]

Perhaps the opponent is in this very chat

[warm monolith]

Im tryna get a ol gears for vesti,so far she is +100k w two ol(a bit of atk,charge spd,hit rate and max ammo) a SR doll but no lvl and she is 6/6/6 ,im using every mat i got on her

[warm monolith]

Wait...that could be you

[gritty ridge]

Ew no im not running fake nero moran

[warm monolith]

Whats my next step? Just upgrade everything

[tropic summit]

almost as if they're reading this chat

[warm monolith]

I mean it could be,he is in a union called perverts

[gritty ridge]

Ah that must be rail

[warm monolith]

lol,tho what lines do i need on vesti alongside of max ammo and atk?

Does hit rate matter on her?

[tropic summit]

@warm monolith check CP with these when you can

[gritty ridge]

2 ammo line, 1-4 cs, 4 atk

Rest is optional

[warm monolith]

cs?

[gritty ridge]

Charge speed