pvp-arena

[swift mango]

poli 1hp 7s can't duel Cindy

Ofc whale power could sway it. Killing b2 on both side of cindy or even cindy herself somehow.

[keen vapor]

Could sway me?

[lethal rock]

[onyx scaffold]

Déjà Vu again

[gritty ridge]

P4

[hybrid fox]

final check uhh wish me luck?
should I change first team pos

[swift mango]

P5 is for rosa

[gritty ridge]

Yippee

[gritty ridge]

Why mirror match p1?

[glad meteor]

Its not mirror, ros nuke scar

[hybrid fox]

rosy > non rosy scar

[gritty ridge]

Soda

But yeah rosa wins if built here

[glad meteor]

T2 can use siren to stop rumani from trigger gen

[gritty ridge]

I just assume the worst

[hybrid fox]

need to tell u guys rosy wont immediate kill so I want scar to slash too

[gritty ridge]

Do you have cs on trina, jackal, or centi?

[glad meteor]

Noise siren cindy helm noah t2
Blanc emi biscuit vesti rumani t3 maybe

[hybrid fox]

some

[glad meteor]

Scar s2 + ros b1 should be enough to kill scar

[hybrid fox]

I definitely dont like that team 2 tbh
that might lose to mihara bullcrap

[gritty ridge]

Unless rosa doesn't have atk

[hybrid fox]

this team 2 is champion pvp checked

[hybrid fox]

she has then ok

[gritty ridge]

That specific variant of slow cindy is weak to siren

[hybrid fox]

ye

[gritty ridge]

K is very smart

[hybrid fox]

but how does it go for this now hmm cuz it seems like it can win too

[gritty ridge]

Whats your rosa skills and atk%

[hybrid fox]

7/10/10 19.95

[gritty ridge]

Skills are good, atk isnt the best but it should kill scar

[hybrid fox]

no changes to team 1 pos?

[gritty ridge]

Actually, is rosa linked

[hybrid fox]

yeah
more linked than scar

[gritty ridge]

[hybrid fox]

more atk

[gritty ridge]

Rosa link isnt good, might mess some things up

[hybrid fox]

scar rosy linked both

go?.. I can record

WWL

anyone want vids
(dm only) sor

idk can I even even send that, I forgot to turn off full burst animation so its longer than usua;

[glad meteor]

I see. Makes sense

[glad meteor]

Just tell me, biscuit indom or moran solo on t3?

Or not enough damage

[hybrid fox]

not enough damage

[glad meteor]

Ah

[hybrid fox]

best just kills first 2 girls

I used helmT cuz regen cope but its not enough anyway

[delicate matrix]

in general...is Ada or TLaplace better for Blanc+Biscuit+VTU+Rumani?

[keen vapor]

Laplace is faster .... Wait, why you put Biscuit as second unit

[delicate matrix]

oh wait

is that a problem

why does it matter

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor how did the def go

are you now challanger 1 without the 0 at the end?

[keen vapor]

:pepeh: what you think it will happen when Biscuit gets splash damage

[tropic summit]

ded

[keen vapor]

Never

[tropic summit]

did they break it?

[keen vapor]

Whale is C1

And I failed my attack at C4

Stuck on C7 atm

[tropic summit]

oh oke

so there's still hope, try get ch4 unless that c4 can gap you, else it's meaningless

although maybe you can bully ch5 to get ch2-ch3?

[keen vapor]

C2 also whale

[tropic summit]

[keen vapor]

Also, XP got high CS so his Noah Cindy team 2.5 RL is getting me troubles

I can respect good investment

[delicate matrix]

oh

I don't get it, who should be second then?

oh wait rumani is a defender

I'm dumb

[keen vapor]

DPS

[delicate matrix]

wait what why

[keen vapor]

What does Blanc's burst tell me

[delicate matrix]

oh wait

yea right

vesti goes there to get blanc invuln whoops

am dumb

I was used to having scarlet first with blanc where I didn't think about it

[tropic summit]

can you show their teams?

🍿

i'm curious what's giving you trouble

[keen vapor]

Scarlet Blanc uses jackal
Things changes when team has Biscuit instead

[keen vapor]

The usual Biscuit + 2 defenders when I can't oneshot

2 defenders also means can't Ada it

[tropic summit]

can you show their 3 teams? there's ways to punish that

indom vestiTU is one of them

[keen vapor]

I fear Vesti comps

[spiral onyx]

It won't be enough. Jackal needs 10 hits, which can only happen in P1 but Anis is in P1 as the sac

[slate falcon]

Same, she does soo much splash dmg to just Insta wipe🙂‍↔️

[shell hazel]

too many factors need to align for this speed but fun experiment

[umbral crown]

[covert lintel]

He noted when i will be online to atk

[umbral crown]

[limber rampart]

Can someone explain to me what that lightning symbol means and why it made the team reach 2 RL? what difference?

[keen vapor]

Press the i button you cut from the screenshot

[keen vapor]

So, now you get it right

[limber rampart]

wdym

[keen vapor]

The information button on the site should explain

[limber rampart]

but what does it mean? im noob

[keen vapor]

Diminutive of Charge Speed

S is diminutive of Skill

In Helm case is skill 1

Well, upgraded skill 2 as well...

[limber rampart]

does it buffs from gears? need to build charge speed?

[gritty ridge]

Yes

[keen vapor]

PVP is CS investment check

Ain't that right @tropic summit ?

[tropic summit]

when i saw that soda 1.5RL in action, i've unfortunately to agree

[keen vapor]

[quick lake]

just build monster besti too

[tropic summit]

Retro did the thing

[fathom rock]

@umbral belfry guess what

[tropic summit]

true popcorns

[umbral belfry]

@glad meteor

[fathom rock]

Here watch the popcorn

[umbral belfry]

I keep forgetting this stupid censor

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/smug-anime-face-blushing-gif-14495461

[covert lintel]

Where

[tropic summit]

@umbral belfry i had the honor of seeing it live

[umbral crown]

@keen vapor if retro was able to get C3, you also can

[umbral crown]

Waos, i missed it

[keen vapor]

I need 81 boost

[tropic summit]

excuses

[umbral crown]

Then get it, that will add you 300k overall cp

Go go

[keen vapor]

I'll use any

[umbral crown]

That was fast

[covert lintel]

It's embarrassing for MA not getting into CA

[keen vapor]

I just got there

[tropic summit]

tell that to those who've more than 4 whales in their bracket

[gritty ridge]

Haha, I say it all the time

[covert lintel]

Hobo?

[gritty ridge]

Me

Im the 5th

[slender mesa]

I am somehow losing to this dude today and I need help in understanding why

[fathom rock]

Cindy bursts after your noah expire, so you get absolutely shredded

[slender mesa]

so I need to burst later?

[fathom rock]

Or kill em earlier

[slender mesa]

I wonder if I should throw vesti in

[fathom rock]

Keep in mind p2 cindy boosts your burst gen for rl units

You can also just indom nuke

[slender mesa]

?

[fathom rock]

Blanc indom a vesti could work

[slender mesa]

who is indom

[fathom rock]

It à buff that lets your unit live at 1 hp instead of dying till it ends

[slender mesa]

indomitability?

[tropic summit]

use

scarlet blanc rh centi jackal
or
scarlet blanc rh helmt jackal (if scarlet remains linked)

this allows you to:

• wipe most of the team minus whoever gets biscuit stack and revive
• indom scarlet will kill the remainers right after or within indom time

the same could work with indom vestiTU, although you won't wipe during the nuke, but during the DPS phase while indommed

the logic for the indom vestiTU is the same, vestiTU should be linked and lowest HP between linked units, team should be at least 3RL

example of indom via linked units (SBS has lowest HP among linked helmT and jackal)

[slender mesa]

you meant SBS and not OG scarlet?

[keen vapor]

Scarlet is Scarlet

[tropic summit]

SBS is scarlet black shadow, og scarlet is Scarlet

[keen vapor]

Skill 2 will always get my attacks in trouble where she gets Indom

[slender mesa]

ok but in any case it did not work I will tyr to record

[tropic summit]

which did you try, the vesti or the scarlet?

[keen vapor]

I tried Emilia

[slender mesa]

both, vesti did not even get to survive

[tropic summit]

deficit?

[keen vapor]

Me always

[slender mesa]

no, I have slightly higher cp

[tropic summit]

oke, a record would've been helpful but there are other ways to deal with that team in case

[slender mesa]

it worked on the second try with scarlet

[tropic summit]

what was the previous try tho?

because it should be consistent

[slender mesa]

same comp but somehow scarlet could not beat the last 3 enemies

She seems to burst during the noah immunity too

[tropic summit]

can you show the matchup to crosscheck CP and placement order?

[tropic summit]

and scarlet is linked correct?

[slender mesa]

by linked you mean she gets the thing that prevents her from dying? yes she got that

[tropic summit]

hmm alright, that's strange

you're likely 2RL or 2.5RL, you should be killing biscuit, mana while noah and moran get biscuit s2 early on

you're then indommed while they wipe your team

noah shield expires, you kill noah and moran

cindy should also be dead right after

[slender mesa]

I will get some extra passes with gems to record again

[tropic summit]

i wonder if you're getting unlucky RNG somewhere

[slender mesa]

this time scarlet did not get indom

she just got focused fired

[tropic summit]

you died pre burst?

[slender mesa]

maybe slightly

[tropic summit]

so that's repairable with doll SR5 and temperance cube

run that same team in union shooting range or a campaign map, press escape (or access pause menu with phone), click on scarlet, check she has "jumping jackal buff"

[fickle jetty]

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit yep,he changed teams

[fickle jetty]

ohh this one i should use diff team my bad

[tropic summit]

can still take him out

[warm monolith]

With the same team comps?

[tropic summit]

lemme take a look

[shell hazel]

got 3 mins 😄

[tropic summit]

your problem here is gonna be CP

[slender mesa]

this?

[shell hazel]

no chance I think, takes time for game to run as well lol

[tropic summit]

no, it's "jumping jackal", if she doesn't have it you found the problem

[warm monolith]

Yep:(

[tropic summit]

well t1 and t2 are fairly weak though

[slender mesa]

red hood has it

[tropic summit]

and helmT probably

[slender mesa]

yes

[tropic summit]

ok so that explains why your vesti or scarlet die

you gonna need to give scarlet more atk%OL, or just don't run her with helmT also in the same team

e.g. scarlet blanc rh centi jackal should ensure you've scarlet linked

give her SR5 (upgrade from R15) doll and temperance

should make then that team consistent

[shell hazel]

damn almost 1 doll worth lol

[slender mesa]

I will have to finally upgrade Scarlets doll then

[tropic summit]

remind me your scarlet ammo, she has no ammo OL right?

[slender mesa]

she has level 0 regular manufacturer gear, FML

[warm monolith]

She has about 55 ammo 3 max ammo lines

[shell hazel]

alt option is you run less atk based unit for flex

it's why I ran xmaiden with scarlet for a while - defender so doesn't steal link

[tropic summit]

oh oke

[warm monolith]

Did i need more or less?

I have spare rocks

[shell hazel]

perfect ammo for scar is like 30 or 31 :9

[warm monolith]

Yeah idk what that means

[shell hazel]

it's 1 ammo roll of like 60%

if you have black line ammo then it's too much

it's to run siren immune at p1

if you can work around that it doesn't matter as much

rerolling can be expensive

[warm monolith]

oh oke

[shell hazel]

scar is costly because you want atk rolls and mostly you don't want ammo rolls

so it's even harder than usual

[tropic summit]

can you assemble these teams and show CP?

[warm monolith]

One sec

[tropic summit]

might need to rotate laplace to T2 for CP and if that's the case it's gonna get interesting

[shell hazel]

biscuit cloned again 😄

[tropic summit]

i need to see CP on both cases

[shell hazel]

ah oke

[tropic summit]

T3 is probably undoable without biscuit or helm sniping, but then CP tanks too much for T2

viceversa biscuit in T2 is needed to ensure rumani stays alive

gonna need to find a way in between

jackal is still open in case for T2 though, then we can spare biscuit

[warm monolith]

T2 720k cp,on T3 634k cp(both w biscuit)

[tropic summit]

T1 needs 713k
T2 needs 703k
T3 needs 619k

we can work with this, lemme update the teams

[warm monolith]

Cool,but we need a replacement for biscuit im guessing

[warm monolith]

Okay

[slender mesa]

swaping Centi instead of T helm did the trick I think.
Many thanks for saving my sanity

[tropic summit]

probably final draft, show again CP then we probably good to go

[leaden canyon]

Rail keeping our sanity is a blessing

[tropic summit]

no worries you welcome

getting your scarlet purple doll and atk% OL would be a good upgrade once you can

[shell hazel]

Rail been busy bee today 😄

[tropic summit]

can afford to do that on saturdays sometimes

[shell hazel]

[leaden canyon]

Btw whats a good way to deal with jackal blanc biscuit vesti xmaiden

its for sure 2.5

[warm monolith]

T2 741k T3 633k,rouge for thelm buff

[leaden canyon]

I also dont have access to noah and biscuit

[tropic summit]

ye rouge is actually a flex in there

we need a non feeding unit and B1

candidates were rapunzel, dkw, rouge

either way CP looks good, counters seem fine, you can start and record when you want

[warm monolith]

Yeah,my rouge is prob the most invested in them

[lunar pawn]

how the hell did that helm survive

[warm monolith]

Aight,im going

[tropic summit]

we could remove biscuit from T3 if T3 overkills, as T2 is the one currently a bit riskier

but we can only tell after you try once

[warm monolith]

Hey,ive won on first team 🙂

[tropic summit]

slower mirror indom would do the trick, else you could focus on blanc, splashers + scarlet would rip her apart before she B2

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit so,T2 lost and T3 won but ive won with the T1 so ive won

[tropic summit]

yeah i feared so, so we can remove biscuit and move her back to bay for next time

looks like bay doesn't buy enough time before scarlet dies to SBS

and their T3 is 2.5RL, so you nuked them before B2

good info

[lunar pawn]

bruh

[warm monolith]

Im just happy my homemade last min team won also thanks for teams

[tropic summit]

yep good job, no problem

[lunar pawn]

what team do I use here?

[tropic summit]

single taunt and linked helm should give it away very easily

[tropic summit]

punish water code link with backstab s.anis

[lunar pawn]

I gotta let go of tvesti?

[leaden canyon]

The team has biscuit so I cant deal with blanc

[tropic summit]

that team stalls vesti, life steal + small DR + damage share

[covert lintel]

HelmT can one shot noah

[tropic summit]

oh sorry didn't notice they run biscuit

[leaden canyon]

Yeah its jackal blanc biscuit vestu xmaiden

[tropic summit]

they're both on 2RL ya silly

[tropic summit]

and you're sure it's 2.5RL right?

[leaden canyon]

yeah

[lunar pawn]

I got sent to the shadow realm

[covert lintel]

I'm not talking about helm burst

[tropic summit]

helmT is available right?

[covert lintel]

Her normal atk

[leaden canyon]

can be yes

[tropic summit]

biscuit probably died before second stack, move her away from p2

noah trina s.anis biscuit jackal

[lunar pawn]

no, she held out for both

[tropic summit]

flex p1
flex p2
helmT
flex DPS burst gen non feed
flex B2 (doesn't need to be noah, but care for burst gen)

[shell hazel]

whale whale whale

[tropic summit]

dafuq then you gonna need to get rid of helmT early, it's rosanna time, is she built?

[shell hazel]

🙁

[lunar pawn]

define built

[tropic summit]

oof no ele atk

she's not gonna be lethal even on water code

[tropic summit]

you've soda right?

[lunar pawn]

are we out of options then

[shell hazel]

gonna bravely run away for now

[lunar pawn]

built? nope

[tropic summit]

there's another way

[covert lintel]

I suggest siren scar blanc

[tropic summit]

we goin' 2 cycles

[covert lintel]

[tropic summit]

it's siren resistant

[tropic summit]

slap this bad boy and record

[lunar pawn]

jackal as b1?

[tropic summit]

yep we need RH B1 to be free for 2nd cycle

[lunar pawn]

[onyx scaffold]

Why must u guys bring Jackal lol

[covert lintel]

So trying to compete in a stall team?

[tropic summit]

outstall the stall

[keen vapor]

Nah, I already used Moran Noah Helm RH

[tropic summit]

on this team?

[tropic summit]

you got a different idea?

[keen vapor]

On CA

[covert lintel]

But i still think siren scar blanc can do it as long as his scar wipes out all except noah

[shell hazel]

what was your cp on this one?

[tropic summit]

he's siren resistant

siren is useless on higher synchro ppl because they all build their CS%

you can still punish 2.5RL although

[onyx scaffold]

Does your Helm have charge speed? @lunar pawn

[lunar pawn]

yeeaa, no

[lunar pawn]

just over 15% iirc

[tropic summit]

damn you dying real fast

didn't even get to 2nd cycle, is noah on temperance?

these would love SR15 btw

[onyx scaffold]

Enemy is using R dolls

[tropic summit]

i'll leave it to @onyx scaffold maybe he has some other idea

[lunar pawn]

not on the dps

[onyx scaffold]

Try

[lunar pawn]

I'm out of tries today, tomorrow

[onyx scaffold]

Heck I even think mihara cindy can beat that team

[lunar pawn]

my tvesti team could handle these teams just fine before, but now thelm surviving, cheeky

[shell hazel]

slow cindy may work if your mihara is somewhat built

[onyx scaffold]

Just kill it

[shell hazel]

we want mihara last because noah will taunt her if you put her in p1 or p2

[onyx scaffold]

u dont need more than 740k cp
try tia instead of trina and see if u can break the core

[shell hazel]

my tia not built 🙂

I'll

[onyx scaffold]

no need build. she is there to trigger naga

[covert lintel]

Yeah try it
I don't think mirroring noah will work on lower cp than the opponent

[shell hazel]

I'm not blue cp anymore

[onyx scaffold]

as long as your cp is still above 730k

[covert lintel]

[shell hazel]

it won't be

[onyx scaffold]

sleep then

[shell hazel]

yeah 🙂

[onyx scaffold]

how good is your mihara

[leaden canyon]

Would this be better or is trying to get noise to burst better?

[shell hazel]

[leaden canyon]

and yes i cant throw noah in it

[shell hazel]

she needs some work, just saving for anni atm

I know I need to build her more

I can for now, I'll be 421 with anni

[onyx scaffold]

shuffle in 3 weeks anyway

[shell hazel]

moran is high feed

rail is recommending low feed so needs to be RL

[tropic summit]

avoid feeding if you dealing with jackal, noise on that aspect is safer

[shell hazel]

or SR or similar

[tropic summit]

rouge/dkw/rapunzel/noise

[tropic summit]

whale isekai season

[leaden canyon]

Roger roger

[tropic summit]

flex B2 will do, can boost helmT nuke, you should hit link before they can blanc B2

mari/trina or similar (based on hitting 2RL)

[pseudo arch]

What is currently the best defense for sp?

[tropic summit]

copy any of these as long as you match the units (prefer in general 2RL or 2.5RL)

#pvp-arena message

[pseudo arch]

Ty

[keen vapor]

Being 100 levels over-... Oh, rail used the pinned teams

[tropic summit]

that only works for those who've unlocked the hidden final weapon, le 💳

[keen vapor]

How it's going @hoary maple

[leaden canyon]

Running this for defense now because I'm pretty sure my 2RL scar rosanna team was just getting killed. Opponent has a built bay so probably get blocked by that

lap gets indom from the link here

[keen vapor]

[leaden canyon]

I wonder if I should do noise instead of moran though so it doesn't feed jackal team more

[tropic summit]

T3 sensible to defender + biscuit locked team
T1 sensible to double buff or indom same variant
T2 can be skipped or kited (let helmT B3)

out of the 3 i recommend changing the SG team, it fares poorly in SP arena

you're running also a weak pressure indom, T1 for the most part is ok

[leaden canyon]

Problem is idk what to do for t3, I'm pretty sure my scar team is getting killed

At least it forces biscuit over there

[tropic summit]

a team that is immediatly weak to biscuit is a bit of a weak choice imo

it leaves a lot of cards to play for the rest

[dense roost]

if you're doing SG, isnt 3 SG Poli Rosanna fairly strong

[leaden canyon]

if I had poli treasure maybe

[tropic summit]

suffers from the same issue, they'll get locked on p5

while lasting a tad longer ofc

[dense roost]

thought mihara team was slow cindy or kinda nothing

lots of variants I guess

[leaden canyon]

I'm honeslty just testing things

I was considering siren instead

[tropic summit]

stun, stall, indom, CS% pressure all add difficulty to attackers

on the other hand, things that are directly weak to noah or biscuit generally are easy to deal with

e.g. glass cannon or SG teams

[leaden canyon]

Or I could do this instead of sg idk

[tropic summit]

that's still a glass cannon

weak also to indom as you don't have stun or rosanna

[leaden canyon]

yeah t3 doesn't have many options

[tropic summit]

go back to the drawing board imo

[leaden canyon]

I could take helm off the indom team and then run nero moran helm flex flex but that never works either

[tropic summit]

start by thinking in archetypes then see what units you've invested to meet the requirements:

-stun archetype 2RL or 2.5RL
-indom archetype 2RL
-stall archetype 2RL or 2.5RL

[leaden canyon]

yeah thats why I'm doing different things because the archetype standard teams dont work

[tropic summit]

nero/moran suffer against double buff and slow cindy, but it is a well known archetype thanks to CA

[dense roost]

Yeah defense is kinda like shuffling it up with spice

[tropic summit]

this is a good mindset, but it needs to be strong teams

[dense roost]

and change every now and then

[tropic summit]

when making teams put yourself in the role of the attacker

then see which one you'd prefer attacking and why

it gives you a good clue where the weak parts are

keep in mind you cannot prevent ALL the weak link, but make sure it's just a few that can be abused

[leaden canyon]

I do that but I have been making teams like that for so long with none of them working that I need to branch off from that mindset against this guy

[dense roost]

or just CP gap them

[tropic summit]

you could get creative and make sacc teams too

[dense roost]

considering it's 2 to 1

[leaden canyon]

I did try that with anis flex flex rosanna flex

[tropic summit]

yep these kind

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/hell-emiya-thats-hell-youre-walking-into-gif-27052445

[leaden canyon]

is scar s2 enough to feed this or no

[tropic summit]

that's around 4 or 5 counters iirc

counters are estimated with a 30% per bullet on average

[hoary maple]

Good

[tropic summit]

assuming low feed team, around 14-24 bullets are fired

[covert lintel]

Atp you should just place anis p1 instead of centi p5

[tropic summit]

the answer is:

[leaden canyon]

Thats why I'm messing with now

[leaden canyon]

Hmm not reliable then

[tropic summit]

won't be 100% consistent but has very high chance to be 2RL

[hoary maple]

I got stuck on mother whale so long that I was just full auto every day until got to the next mother whale. Guess what? Stuck again

[tropic summit]

doubt the opponent will want to devise a plan on whether you're 2.5RL or 2RL and will probably run anti nuke on 2RL

[high stream]

How hard do you want to whale to spearhead this bracket?
Yes

[tropic summit]

it's rookie...

[high stream]

Fret not

[covert lintel]

I used mpriv here

[high stream]

I thought it was more insane that this dude has a 700K Arena team .. in a bracket where the average team is around 380K
Thats why i showed the rookie one, lol.

[covert lintel]

I got punched hard in rookie earlier for bringing the whaler down to number 2

[tropic summit]

oh hopefully it's campaign team

[covert lintel]

He hate losing

[high stream]

[tropic summit]

how could you dirty their ego

[tropic summit]

[high stream]

You'd like that, wouldn't you

[high stream]

Look at the f***ing cores on this team.

[tropic summit]

what's your campaign CP against that?

[high stream]

440K

[tropic summit]

oof

[high stream]

And I'm legit one of the strongest in this bracket

[tropic summit]

smells of leviathan

stay away from it

[high stream]

I'm not planning on touching it

I'm busy constantly shuffling between Rank 7 - 11

[leaden canyon]

Hows this, lap still gets indom

[high stream]

Usually I end up top 10 at the end from points, but the top 10 in this bracket are super aggressive

They gem, as soon as u take them down, multiple times if necessary

So, i usually try to maintain rank 11 for as long as possible .. and snipe 10-8 here and there for a bit

[leaden canyon]

I guess I should swap lap and xmaiden spots

[tropic summit]

you don't have emilia?

i'd rather vesti indom in T2 and emilia B3 on single buff with RH in T1

lappy indom is on the weak side and kitable

vestiTU indom forces team to consider p1 p2 and p3 dead

with something that locks her in p1

[leaden canyon]

I do

[leaden canyon]

what like noah biscuit emilia hood flex

That would just die to siren

[covert lintel]

Is this for defense?

[leaden canyon]

yes

[covert lintel]

Then you should let rapun burst first

Any moran burst is weak on defense
I got breached easily in the past

[leaden canyon]

then noise noah?

[keen vapor]

You're on those floors for Manufactarer towers as well? you even beating me there

[leaden canyon]

Would noise be better or still have rapunzel burst first

[covert lintel]

Noise strong if the opponent is lower level than yours but less effective if he's higher

[leaden canyon]

we are around the same cp

[covert lintel]

Maybe try this
You can p1 rapun too so there is a chance they activated rapun's stun

[leaden canyon]

Alrighty I'll try rapu p1

does vesti need that burstgen cube?

btw my vesti has 11% cs, thats enough for her burstgen increase right?

[covert lintel]

Don't need it
According to deck, it's still 2.5

[covert lintel]

Idk ask @keen vapor

[shell hazel]

you can see in work she lands all 4 rockets by about 2.5RL with 11%

[ivory violet]

Here's what my PvP main buddy says about vesti cs

[worthy knoll]

Is work accurate now for Vesti?

[tropic summit]

you need emi on 38%CS and team with siren resistance (11%CS team wide)

[shell hazel]

I think so - but yeah I don't think you need much CS to at least land the rockets for 2.5RL

[tropic summit]

@leaden canyon

[shell hazel]

no chance his emi has those rolls

[tropic summit]

he was asking for ideas, just throwing what i've seen giving more difficulty on attacker

[keen vapor]

Doubt

[shell hazel]

was 18% CS on the last sheet

can do emi to 16% on the deck builder safely there

25% is very hard to get needs some black/blue lines and adjutant

[tropic summit]

you sure?

[tropic summit]

getting different outcomes between nikke-deck and nikke.work

[shell hazel]

yeah had this one before 😄

3rd hit lands a bit after 2RL according to work, even with 25% CS

is 4.92% + 4.92% + 4.33% + 4.04% which rounds to 18%

[tropic summit]

so it's actually not a 2RL but something between 2RL and 2.5RL which still allows you to hit noah B2 before siren stuns?

else it loses meaning i guess

[leaden canyon]

oh I need 18% cs on her?

[shell hazel]

you need even more for full fat emi

25% CS, very hard to get

this is your one

[leaden canyon]

oh nvm I thought you were talking about vesti

[leaden canyon]

oh you saved mine

[shell hazel]

yeah

this is what you'd need for 25% CS emi

very high investment basically means rolling to get CS on everything then reset attribute until some blue/black lines

[leaden canyon]

I do have cs every piece

just reolling the attributes

[worthy knoll]

I like my Vesti and Emi quick

[shell hazel]

yeah just doesn't qualify for the super duper version

I don't know if worth chasing these could be costly

yours is 18% so not terrible, will just be a little slower

[leaden canyon]

I think I used all my luck getting black line cs on noah

was a line 1 cs but still

[shell hazel]

black line cs is black line cs

even if it's all you had on that it's not like you can't temp lock and try to add some cp pad anyway

[worthy knoll]

If worried by Trina block from being too fast, you can kinda save it with Ros.

[tropic summit]

you killed them so fast you even wiffed

and it was pre B3

[leaden canyon]

Ok so I guess this is what I'm rocking for SP defense

[vapid lake]

Naruhodo, i copy

[worthy knoll]

Without Rosanna it gets blocked by Trina immune

[leaden canyon]

I can't put emilia p3 because she will get indom from the splash even with jackal linked units

[swift mango]

It's very close, just need 100 more rock at average luck.

[leaden canyon]

I know because its happened to me on attacking

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

saving rocks for anni atm

[tropic summit]

people with sync shoot are scary, trivializes the already trivialized arena

good luck making a defense team that can handle that

[leaden canyon]

Since we are sharing

This is the guy I'm at deficit with on t2 and t3, t3 I eneded up winning by changing siren for rapunzel

But I didn't record that one

[swift mango]

It's because you have too much CS.b

[leaden canyon]

this is because I was a little in deficit btw and didn't notice

[swift mango]

Nah, I not scary, I'm smol.

[leaden canyon]

rapu switch brought me out of deficit

[worthy knoll]

Yeah that is why I said if you are just worried, about the Trina block as the reason for avoiding CS, you can just place Rosanna, Trina won't be able to block it. Well it prolly a worry for CA but simply on SP or rookie, its easy to make a fix for it, just place a Rosanna, problem solve

[swift mango]

I kinda wanted to roll off CS from LapT so I could have Vesti synch 2 different shot. One with Emi, one with LapT.

[tropic summit]

and then they fix the totally intended feature

[swift mango]

That's why I didn't.

[tropic summit]

a smart decision

[worthy knoll]

Then its fine, my Vesti and Emi still function as battery as I intended

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

Yeah, Vesti isn't getting out of meta anytime soon.

[worthy knoll]

Like in this one, if I didn't had CS, I wouldn't be even able to B1 with Noise. I want CS enough at least for 5 SG frame time for Vesti 2nd shot

[tropic summit]

[worthy knoll]

Or was it third 🤔

[swift mango]

Having too much CS was the reason my Vesti team isn't true 2rl even when Nikke.deck showed it is.

The synched shot bust the Covers, making Noise+Noah slower shoot losing gen.

[worthy knoll]

Don't worry.. my Vesti has 0 atk lines

[tropic summit]

suffering from success

[worthy knoll]

Like I said earlier, my initial function for Vesti is as battery, so I'm fine even if she doesn't have atk lines

[swift mango]

Me thinking about getting 3rd CS for Vesti but worry she would lose dmg from missing an ele line.

[worthy knoll]

My Vesti 4 CS 4 Ele 2 Crit 2 ammo

It was like that already during her release

Haven't changed anything, only Emi I changed by getting a black CS line

[swift mango]

Mine is 4 ATK 2 CS 2 Ammo 2 crit 2 Ele.

[worthy knoll]

I contemplated if I wanted to reduce CS for atk when people had an idea how to build her, but I discarded the idea, just because of one unit, I would like to lose my Siren bait? Nah, just retained it. Don't want to use rocks for a unit with already 12 lines

[swift mango]

You could just synch her 2nd shot instead of 1st to by pass the scarlet Trina. Just need another unit with low CS.

[leaden canyon]

my vesti has a black crit damage line

Why couldn't that be attack or ele

[swift mango]

Build you Vesti with 4 Crit rate to make use of that Crit dmg.

[leaden canyon]

You want to donate me the rocks

fr though, we need more rock drops, they upped everything else but rocks

[swift mango]

I want a 2nd ammo for my reiT so I don't have to use her with bastion. Still unable to get it.

[worthy knoll]

I still like more CS, much more flexible for SP in my eyes vs one with no CS. Prolly bad for CA, but the gems are in SP so I'll prioritize that more. In my case I think Vesti damage is more than enough already. Its not that I didn't want atk though, I just didn't get one, I got crit chance instead, black and blue lines too, decided to just accept it

[swift mango]

SAI coming soon on Anni. Trust.

[leaden canyon]

At the very least they need to remove the rock cost for locking lines straight up.

that would be amazing

[umbral crown]

sound slike my vesti but with 0 ammo

[thin abyss]

Does anyone know how much CS Vesti needs to become 2RL? 15% or 18%?

[swift mango]

5% 2nd shot at exactly 2rl.
15% 3rd shot same time as Emi 25% 3rd shot.
21% 3rd shot at 2rl.

[covert lintel]

How about 18?

[swift mango]

Is 18%

[keen vapor]

@hoary maple XP has been attacking you and succeeding?

[swift mango]

Nah attack Check instead

[keen vapor]

I want him in CA

More than XP or Hero

also Check gaps me

[hoary maple]

He has only succeeded like once out of the last 4 attempts against me. My bad for swapping out my DEF teams I guess

[keen vapor]

He didn't succeeded the last time right

[umbral crown]

but attack them

you gems gonna back you up

[keen vapor]

So will Hero

[primal charm]

How to synchronize her shot? Just use nikke work tool and make the dots into a line? Which unit can be used to sync her? Can i sync her with centi?

[keen vapor]

I won't advice to build CS based on bugs

[swift mango]

@primal charm any units is fine but you need to experiment. Nikke work alone won't work.

[keen vapor]

Nikke work not working

[umbral crown]

But you have more

[swift mango]

It works, just forming a line don't.

[keen vapor]

I do not know that

[umbral crown]

Do not you

[swift mango]

You not do

[umbral crown]

Me not do

[swift mango]

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

Do not me

[umbral crown]

Not do me

[swift mango]

[keen vapor]

[hoary maple]

imagine using gems this close to anniversary

[keen vapor]

Yonexxi always gems

[swift mango]

I have no worry about anniversary because I'm not using any gem for it.

[covert lintel]

That's me

I have 7 gems left

[mystic rain]

imagine using gems on anni

[primal charm]

Real

[swift mango]

I have 200 ticket and would manifest the 3 pilgrim banners up rate from it. Trust.

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

Me few hours ago

4 pages full of fun moments and cooks

This is how you learn pvp

[spare nimbus]

which would be more annoying for defense?

[midnight marsh]

[umbral crown]

Hai

[midnight marsh]

[covert lintel]

[umbral crown]

I like both...

[umbral crown]

Hows your defense

[umbral crown]

A message had to be sent

[midnight marsh]

I'm holding rank 6 this season. It looks like I'm retired from CA until I lucksack a SP shuffle that helps me out

[umbral crown]

Others beat your defense first try?

[midnight marsh]

Yeah, usually. But it doesn't matter very much because I've also successfully defended but people have no problem gemming

[umbral crown]

Well thats the thing, if you do not gem, hard to defens agaijst gemmers

like me

[midnight marsh]

Usual day

A day is about 5x that list

From 3 different gemmers

They successfully attack me now without needing to gem

[umbral crown]

Bro gems more than me

[midnight marsh]

It's about 5x that list each day

[umbral crown]

You will have to swipe and get 100 levels over them

[midnight marsh]

I get attacked about 40-50 times a day lol

[spare nimbus]

💀

[midnight marsh]

Doesn't matter what time of day

I keep track of their online hours and I guess it's only about 6 hours of sleep each, otherwise they want that CA slot badly lol

[umbral crown]

Go to C2 if hes C6

[midnight marsh]

They chain

[umbral crown]

But they forget C4 gets it as well

[midnight marsh]

I can't attack C2. C2 is the craziest guy ever. He makes these gemmers in these screenshots look like noobs

I've gemmerd against him before back in the day

[umbral crown]

[midnight marsh]

120 attacks a day

[umbral crown]

Thats... a lot

[midnight marsh]

He will also constantly write the most insane toxic comments in his profile message

every few hours updates

[umbral crown]

[thin abyss]

[umbral crown]

Those bois

[midnight marsh]

In Chinese, and if you translate it, it's the CRAZIEST shit

Like death threats to parents, family, all sorts of shit

[umbral crown]

[midnight marsh]

Yeah C2 is off the tables

[thin abyss]

I wish my server was that active
I'm #2 and everyone else just gave up 2 weeks ago

[umbral crown]

C1 true wheel?

[midnight marsh]

He is also legitimately 247 online. His comment at one point was like: keep trying, I've got script

[midnight marsh]

C1 is TRUE whale

[umbral crown]

Happened to me for kinda 9 months

[thin abyss]

Well hope the next shuffle gets better
Still arena needs a rework

Not only CA but SP as well

[umbral crown]

Before i had time to be kinda active whole time

but your defense looks to be working, just those bois forcing their ways

[midnight marsh]

Oh no no, my defense no longer works. Those screenshots are from a few days ago

I’m lost now so I gave up haha

[umbral crown]

i mean they were working but when you gem that much you learn the tricks

[glad glade]

This is exactly why blabla doesn’t have a dm function

[midnight marsh]

Oh yeah, results of my CA group. Victory-reversed beat me (again) lol. Second win for M01, the Japanese player

[thin abyss]

Oh that reminds me they were supposed to implement a DM feature in-game 2 years ago and it was never talked about again, they even removed the icon

[umbral crown]

he stole my win during S4

[glad glade]

People are already writing pastebins about their rivals. Imagine what it will be like if there is a dm function

[gritty ridge]

@umbral belfry can I please have some rocks tomorrow, its been so long

[umbral crown]

me: hello, keep trying. good things will come in the future

[midnight marsh]

M01:
Moran Rapunzel Bay Vesti Helm
Blanc Mihara Cind Bisc Ruma
Noise Noah Siren Rei Centi (oho....)
Anne Shotgun
Scarlet Trina Anis RH Jackal

[gritty ridge]

My rivals keep joining my union server

[umbral crown]

[thin abyss]

Yeah but you can always block them, communication is needed at some degree

[glad glade]

They’ll twist it into ragebait and tell you the most vile shit you’ve ever heard of

[umbral crown]

that would be rude

[gritty ridge]

My 3 biggest CA rivals are all in my union server, I cant even ask advice on my teams there anymore

[midnight marsh]

LOL

[glad glade]

Lmfaooooo

[umbral crown]

waos

[gritty ridge]

At least 2 of em are getting raptured soon

[umbral belfry]

no

[gritty ridge]

Please

[umbral crown]

be glad its not your sp

[gritty ridge]

One of em is

[umbral crown]

in sp i do not give spots for free, they have to fight for it

[gritty ridge]

The rank 1 in my spa is in a sister union

[glad glade]

My SPA rival is BB kek

[umbral crown]

me: Sends that person to C2

[umbral crown]

owo

[glad glade]

Some family drama I see 🍿

[gritty ridge]

Too much hassle, also if im on c1 I cant test teams anymore

[umbral crown]

im just waiting to get next boost level so i can also pick a fight with C3

[bleak marsh]

as we approach another CA season, any (genuine) tips on betting?
I know it's RNG, but does higher CP usually garner a win, or are there specific team comps i should look out for?

[umbral crown]

need to start saving gems for that moment

[bleak marsh]

i see people with gold frames, i just wanna know is there a secret behind educated guesses

[glad glade]

Same. Rn I’m severely underleveled, 5th is like over 30 syncs ahead of me and just reached a sync breakpoint. I think I might be cooked until the new campaign chapters come out

[umbral crown]

cp just serve as a way to cp how invested an unit is, to get the frame you want you need to have an idea how the team works or ask here so on the process you gonna learn

[umbral crown]

new chaps means more credits and battle data

[bleak marsh]

noted, thank you
i asked for last one, i got 4/5

guess I'll be sticking around here then

[bleak marsh]

and more lore
but just lurking, i get what you guys mean

i am assuming you guys already dominated hard campaign?

[umbral crown]

more levels more cp

[umbral crown]

no yet, need to be really strong uwu

[bleak marsh]

😤 i believe in you

[glad glade]

I’m also hoarding my core dust until the great release

[umbral crown]

hoarding for nikke 3

[glad glade]

I’m gonna flood the arena harder than God flooding the world

[bleak marsh]

those credit cases, holy

[umbral crown]

could never be me

[bleak marsh]

same

[glad glade]

I got like over a thousand of the 1hr credit cases

[bleak marsh]

i have no patience to do that
i just hoard gems atp

[bleak marsh]

💀 bro's waiting for CA to get nerfed i guess

i wonder what comes after "beta season"

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/konosuba-steal-kazuma-adventurer-anime-gif-17106503

the real thing

[glad glade]

This is why I push 40% deficit HM campaign

[umbral crown]

thats after S30

[bleak marsh]

respect

[bleak marsh]

i guess i got only 15 seasons left to get frames

[umbral crown]

yep

[bleak marsh]

or we can pay for it with gems in shop ( )

[umbral crown]

15 more seasons to get gem, if not just wait for the real CA

[glad glade]

Its gonna cost as much as that 40 rock pack

[umbral crown]

imagine they do a different frame

[glad glade]

Champions from every bracket that season come together for the ultimate champion frame

[bleak marsh]

i hope not 😭

as a spectator, i just want it to be the same frame

unless they pull a different-gacha-game-company (starts with H and ends with O), and new players just miss out

[bleak marsh]

okay, i would watch the levithans fight with whales, honestly

[umbral crown]

waos

[bleak marsh]

for same frames in actual CA in case my luck is actually that bad 😭

[glad glade]

Imagine Keripo facing off against a sync 425 baby from the baby bracket

[bleak marsh]

coughing baby meme

i have NA, so that's like...radeki fighting piggy (i think)

man, i can't believe i didn't bet on the whale
missed the frame by 1 💀

[glad glade]

I might be wrong, but hasn’t piggy won against radeki a few times?

[bleak marsh]

i don't remember, atp

cuz i know radeki just won against cup
but then we checked their sync for each manufacturer

[glad glade]

Yeah ik. It was crazy as hell

[bleak marsh]

[glad glade]

Like, their pilgrim research lvl

[bleak marsh]

I KNOW 💀

just put pilgrims in all 5 teams at that point

i didn't believe in the whale and i lost my gold frame
lesson learned indeed

"manufacturer level doesn't matter in CA"
I THINK IT DOES

[glad glade]

Oh it does. Especially if the battle is really close like that

[bleak marsh]

not gonna bet on coughing baby anymore, for sure 💀

[glad glade]

Plus Cup lacked attack lines for Besti, which is why he lost

[bleak marsh]

i really hope i get radeki bets again

[bleak marsh]

i remember someone mentioning "unless cup mastered vesti synch"
What does that mean?

[glad glade]

Honestly, no clue. Probably means that Besti is just absolutely cracked

Like a really high CS+Atk. Her rockets hit like a truck even off burst

[bleak marsh]

mmmmm, gotcha
well, i learned my lesson; i also will be asking for more help next CA so i can get that frame 😤
never back down never give up indeed 🗣️

[glad glade]

Best of luck bro! I’m rooting for you

It took me 4 months to get my silver frame…

[bleak marsh]

noted; you mentioned that cup lacked attack lines as well
i guess the defenders aren't too good..,?

[bleak marsh]

that was the first one i got 💀
turned out, majority knew best on the winner that season

[glad glade]

It was Soda-Scar vs Noah-Besti right?

[bleak marsh]

gold one is harder to get, imho

[bleak marsh]

i think so?

i remember noah and besti together, yeah

[placid bloom]

Radeki's Vesti?

that was into Nero Moran stall

[glad glade]

Nah, Radeki’s scar vs Cup’s Besti

[placid bloom]

oh

I didn't check any of the matches

[bleak marsh]

ignorance is bliss

[placid bloom]

me just vote and get my credit boxes

[glad glade]

It was like nikke football that day kek

[bleak marsh]

was this not the right team comp, if you don't mind me asking?

[bleak marsh]

i lost everything
like pack up the bags, we are selling the house

[glad glade]

It was the right one I’m pretty sure. Let me check really quick

[bleak marsh]

thank you
I'll still stick around to ask for bets, but i just want to see why the vesti team didn't work

[placid bloom]

oh was that the Vesti Centi LapT into Scar Soda

I have hazy recollection of that

saying that Scar should be dead to Vesti + double iron

unless there is damage issue for some reason

like no ele on LapT

[glad glade]

Yeah this was how close Radeki’s scar was to dying right before bursting

[placid bloom]

who was the stun, Noah + ?

[glad glade]

Under normal circumstances Cup would have win because of Besti’s attacks. Buuuuut….

[placid bloom]

stun Vesti?

[glad glade]

Noise

[placid bloom]

oh right it was double taunt

[bleak marsh]

dangggggggg

[bleak marsh]

bruhhhhhhhh

[glad glade]

The guy’s pilgrim research levels were just too much

[placid bloom]

yeah I remember that, the only win condition was that Scar had to somehow live

[glad glade]

And she did

[placid bloom]

people need 4 Atk 4 ele on their LapT

[bleak marsh]

everyone betted on scar dying (me too)

never doubting a whale ever again

never doubting a level 400 pilgrim research level ever again

[placid bloom]

surely the OL is fixed by next CA

[bleak marsh]

i read developer's notes, i don't think so

[glad glade]

He fixed Besti’s atk OLs I believe. Idk about laplop thou

[bleak marsh]

next CA is in under 4 days

[glad glade]

Pretty lucky too. Took like a rock or two iirc

[placid bloom]

or maybe Radeki has full tempering on all his p1 now that he has rank 1 UR income for batteries

[glad glade]

Oh yeah he’s in Scarlet now

[mystic rain]

1 multi per banner type shi

[glad glade]

I kinda wanna see a match between him and keripo tbh

[bleak marsh]

are they in the same lineup?

i heard of this keripo fellow but don't think i've betted on them before

[placid bloom]

Radeki would be missing Emilia, so it's not even matchup

Keripo is on day 1 player server

[glad glade]

Nah. Radeki is in the toddler bracket. Keripo is beyond that

[placid bloom]

not ours

[bleak marsh]

ohhhhhhhh

i wonder would reshuffling bring them together

[placid bloom]

nah it can't

too far apart, would literally need like 99% of the game's population to become inactive

[bleak marsh]

ahhh, gotcha

hmm, noted!
well, i hope that next CA still has the same/similar people going in again

cup vs radeki 2.0
by then, maybe we'll get a level 450 pilgrim manu from radeki

[glad glade]

The shuffle in november is probably going to bring in some new whales in my SPA shard…

[umbral crown]

and here i thought it was an original idea from me

[bleak marsh]

FIGHT 😤
you got this!!

[glad glade]

I’m literally being carried by technical knowledge. My rumani has ZERO OL

[bleak marsh]

we live on that and a dream 😤

like that vs meme

nerds can win 😤

[umbral crown]

this team never lost a fight

[bleak marsh]

please help me next SPA
I am relying on a lot of knowledge to get this frame

[bleak marsh]

that T.Helm is an amazing healer, like i just got the item on a whim and man, it has saved me tonnes

[umbral crown]

yeah

[bleak marsh]

next SPA is easier than this one

[umbral crown]

trust the process

[bleak marsh]

[umbral crown]

i want an active nracket

[mystic rain]

tf

whos ur b3 on noah team then

and ur blanc team

[umbral crown]

Ein

[mystic rain]

wtf

[umbral crown]

cindy

[mystic rain]

blanc biscuit so 2RL noah team?

[umbral crown]

my blanc cindy is the slow one 4-5 RL, noah team was 2.5

[mystic rain]

damn did this also win vs 2RL scar

or SG def

or even against 2-3RL blanc

[umbral crown]

team this season did not meet those

[mystic rain]

ah well

luck is a skill too...

[umbral crown]

this was my last fight against seb, team 3 and team 5 won

[mystic rain]

it wins vs sg atk huh

shame he even has viper for nero

[umbral crown]

yeah, things happens

[mystic rain]

oh but ur sg def lost vs moran bay

cant kill moran fast enough?

[umbral crown]

no, i won with sg there. i was in defense

[mystic rain]

oh mb u said u won team 3

[umbral crown]

i would have won t2 is scar was there against slow cindy

[mystic rain]

is ur mast linked or lap linked

[umbral crown]

lap linked this time

[broken raven]

in what world would a support ever win against an attacker in jackal link when level is normalized

[mystic rain]

more atk lines

[umbral crown]

depends the team

[mystic rain]

and cores

[umbral crown]

but also in support dupes, atk lines

[mystic rain]

if lap was 2 star and mast core 7 and lap 0 atk and mast x4 atk its possible

then ur mast in team 1 kinda useless no?

probably still might work vs sg def so ig its fine

[umbral crown]

sg defense and scar p1

or in defense vs SR attackers

[mystic rain]

yea ur mast p5 so she still gets hit even if shes not linked

maybe ur team 2 could win if vesti instead of ein

and xmaiden on team 5

or is vesti dps too value for moran nero team?

[umbral crown]

not really, i was just doing weird things to see how that would work

i always take ca to test new cooks since its the only way i can get some info

[mystic rain]

tru..

[umbral crown]

[wild hemlock]

Can't actually tell how fast that is but I'm using a similar team in SP arena atm

[mystic rain]

or xmaidedn in scar team instead of lap and lap in moran team

[leaden canyon]

@tropic summit You around to check an attack?

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

1.6 kinda

[leaden canyon]

I know the noah team wins

[keen vapor]

I rather use Liter than Rosanna

[umbral crown]

just skip the 2m team and boost the rest of your teams

[leaden canyon]

oh is it 1.6

[keen vapor]

Then RH, and don't use Ada, you need to keep speed without jackal

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

Not siren, her buff is weaker

[umbral crown]

rh then

[leaden canyon]

where am I putting hood

[umbral crown]

instead rosanna

[umbral crown]

if you trust your rosanna, she could be good in team 3

[dense roost]

3 dies to siren nuke

1 to 2rl cindy no? Skip 2

[umbral crown]

you skip Team 1, no way dair gonna do something with 400k cp less

[leaden canyon]

I mean the noah team there kills it

I even killed 700k less cp teams

[umbral crown]

then scar jack team 2

[leaden canyon]

unless his scar team is 1.6

[umbral crown]

and maybe indom vesit team3

[leaden canyon]

hows this

[umbral crown]

if vesti on team 1 was winning then leave her there

she can fight well in deficit

[strong hull]

Mr Dair

I have vesti now

We cooking again soon

[leaden canyon]

good bye to all your rocks

[strong hull]

[leaden canyon]

sometimes I can tank non buffed vesti with the nero moran team

[umbral crown]

you know if that vesti is invested?

[leaden canyon]

yes

[umbral crown]

then team 3 is kinda rng but team 2 should win fine and you said team 1 wins so you should be fine

helm gonna nuke when they have noah invu

if you trust your nero tema, go

[leaden canyon]

I wish I knew how to read this lol

[umbral crown]

top team is the defender and the team below is attack, you put the enemy team in defense and attack your team

line read says when they will B1 B2 and B3, the 3 points

[leaden canyon]

oh so scarlet comes out before my noah burst?

[umbral crown]

yeah

[leaden canyon]

alright well helm it is instead of vesti

and then rng vesti indom

for t3

[umbral crown]

Oh

[leaden canyon]

its over

tripple loss

[quick lake]

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

Were not you goimg with this set up?

[leaden canyon]

no because this showed that scarlet would burst before noah

[umbral crown]

But you said with vesti you have won before

[leaden canyon]

I won the cp deficit before

[umbral crown]

Maybe was not that high?

[leaden canyon]

but if the scar nuke comes out before the noah burst then its over

Regardless t2 also lost

[umbral crown]

Guess you needed blanc to indom scar then

[leaden canyon]

well idk what to do now, pretty sure my original idea is going to lose so I guess I try that

[umbral crown]

let me think....

lets start by skipping team 1

[covert lintel]

Change that rh to vesti and burst with rumani

T2 need blanc
T3 need rosanna

[leaden canyon]

I guess I should have used hood instead of liter then

[covert lintel]

T2 you don't need to force with scar, any double buff screen wipe will do
For example mpriv

[leaden canyon]

Yeah but hood should be able to do it

better attack buff

[covert lintel]

That's not the problem, that team makes use of your scar counter so their blanc and rumani will be immune

Until they can burst

[leaden canyon]

I mean wont they still be immune from maidpriv also

[covert lintel]

Nah, mpriv doesn't have counter so blanc can be killed before she get immune

[leaden canyon]

is her being 7/7/7 with a blue doll enough

shes also core 5

[covert lintel]

idk about that

[leaden canyon]

does she need an SR 5 and 10 in her burst?

[keen vapor]

That's super sus