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i appreciate the .69 ty sm hippo
anything over 638K odd suffers no penalty
Her skills are 10/7/10 ,full ol w a bit of atk max ammo and elem and max cube,does she still needs trina if i swap the T1 w bay?
and if bays not at deficit then he can try the og idea then
it's nice isn't it? ๐
bay does not buff scar
if you plan on going in with scar bay x centi jack, i doubt you're gonna kill due to 0 buffers
maybe scar lacks atk rolls

noise biscuit noah etc annoying as well
A bit over 24%
noise makes them tanky
Uninvested noise
probably easier to vesti the cindy maybe
What does that mean?
oh i have a different name in game to my discord xdd
how does this look against the vesti team cp wise?
Did my dailies, no rocks, not enough skill mats to level up rosa, im done for the day I suppose
696k cp uninvested rap
do you have a decent flex RL of b1 or b2 outside of rapu who isn't a defender?
speed doesn't matter
beautiful cp ty for the 69
Of course arcana

truly it is raining 69's today
tLaplace
who is a b1 or b2 ๐
Top, Top, Bot, Bot, Bot wins?
@tropic summit please help this future pvp goon
i g2g out soon
Oh,then no one ๐
noise?
Not invested
uninvested noise
Don't have arcana?
bruh
nah man my account is a different name
then I think you should maybe consider giving up attacking them, they gap you and you haven't got the units invested
I have but she doesnt even have manu tier 9 gears
Im the lost case of pvp

Build it
I dont have the manu gears and gears for it
No manchor? Smh
I do but she is not even 100k ๐ฆ
I beat that with thelm ๐
you can beat that opponent but you'd need more CP I think
Whats my best shot?
Rip my whaler still awake
Its me
Rn
get more cp
I thought i could snipe him while he sleep
simples ๐

I have two attempts tho,i should do something even if it seems impossible
how is your vesti?
Dont have her
then no
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cute
beating the scar should be simple enough you just need 2RL noah or bay comp that is enough cp
I have a lot invested Bay but not her team:(
but beware that ros/helm eat attackers and supporters
You mean in the first team?
yes
you can't touch t2, too much cp and you don't have built vesti
so you're forced to beat t1/t3
to beat t3 you need low feed (all RL units ideally) and ideally no defender in p2
Hippo can I use rosa in spa
you can
@shell hazel so who should i invest first?
how is this cp?
feels wrong to tag them sync 200s
650k cp
ah damnit I got confused and mixed up their t2/t3, this would beat the vesti team but that is super high cp
the cindy one is less cp :9
My rumani is 122k,trina 89k,thelm 172k,biscuit 120k and tlap 145k fyi
damn trina mistreated
could try to snipe the noise at p5
she was goat for this raid
gotta be fast to outpace the b1 though
Ros is 87k
hippo made 3%?
I just got biscuit, which character should I swap out in my teams for her?
I was thinking viper in my second team but Iโm not sure if thatโs the best option
what cp is this?
No rh:((
just get RH? ๐
Yeah,ive been trying for 1.5 years but sure ๐
749cp:
Jackal 127k
Tbay 182k
Trina 89k
Thelm 172k
Alice 177k
it may beat the cindy one as noise is p5, my hope is that helm can snipe noise
Even if,how can i beat T3?
it's not something I recall trying as such ๐
Oh right
You still got 6 months to beat my record ๐
Dang,at least we got rh rerun ๐
Should i go for it?
Though i still need a replacement team for T1
Oh right yeah, i managed to get her with the wishlist like, month or two ago, but yeah, it was the final nikke i needed to "complete" ๐
@shell hazel im going for it?
you'd need a team for team 1
does Noah/biscuit/cindy/centi/rumani with 650k cp would be deficit?
No maiden:(

ah yeah we need noah also one sec
๐งฑ ?
Nah,i only dont have units that are good at pvp/bossing
problem is we may not be fast enough
True
how this?
Werent we gonna use jackal in T3?
rumani swap
677k
do this for the rumani team
In first team?
yeah
745k cp
so noah/cindy against their scar
and the bay team against the cindy, though I'm not convinced it will win
essentially helm needs to snipe noise before noise can b1
We cant know if we dont try first
it's either we try that or we go for bay catch cindy nuke
which may also work
well if you don't mind burning a try pls record
Full team comps?
#pvp-arena message this one against scar (should win)
this one against the cindy (probably won't win) #pvp-arena message
Hippo you wanna try and cook against my pal lova?
pavlova?
I have some more invests
do you think helm can snipe the noise bigboi?
who?
What does helm needs to have so my odds are higher that she can snipe,if overall investment,prob yes
don't spend rocks here
see how it is as it is
just quantum on batteries like jackal
Also first team is 682k and thirds 745k cp fyi
yeah should be in range just doubt we're quick enough to snipe noise if they have some CS
Lap noah and biscuit adjutant and jackal quantum?
their cubes shouldn't matter much here
Hippo how do I win
whale some sync
Ill be sync 281 in a few days
that's ma boy
Honestly if I ever decide to stop being lazy and push hardmode/clean up chapters i can probably get it today
can almost 416, so should be well positioned for 421 for anni
yeah ez 2.29%
I guessed it would be 2.2-2.3% earlier and I was pretty much spot on ๐
land bosses in a mid/close range = best bosses
yeah was good ๐
I crawled into it at 2.9 kek
when you run pvp units for towers

Preview of resource cost post 501
you don't have use consumables on 
Took a bit long @shell hazel
noooo
ok so expected cindy loss, the scar one was because we were too slow on noah
if noah blocked the scar nuke then that is gg
Yeah,it was a great attempt tho,thanks ๐ i think i cant win unless i get to lvl 421
And i plan to do in aniv
Yeah,im already at 7th place lol
I was before at 5th and was winning the 3rd place time to time but i start getting overpowered lately
thinking this for the cindy team then
similar speed, but we have better b3 (rapi) and siren prevents noah from b2 on opponent side
All right,i will run this team tomorrow,i gotta go to sleep,thanks for your efforts a lot
this for the scar
np, pls record again if you run interested to see ๐
Allright,i will
๐ฌ
you're still on your win streak? ๐
just need these last two matches?
ehhhhhhhhhhhh idk
rng

RNG
rng 

Hime you got your free dragon dan heng?
if we let owl down and she fails her cheer, i think we should collectively blame 2d
gotta log in 
sounds like a plan
I built mine and he's pretty good tbh
2d was the one who said rng first
real
can i have some
will say fwiw. my teams 1/4/5 have been strong this season. getting some good Ws. they've come out on top of a lot of questionable matchups so far
but phoric's teams are good. phoric strong 
not until you give my rocks back

idk why literally everyone decided to put their biscuit team in p3 this season though.
mg sgs haven't won at all in p3 
I crafted a couple of pieces but then they rolled poorly lol
my husband 
me looking at my p3 sweating bc i took jackal off
that rope though 
not the backsh*ts 
use a dps lc, that's litteraly better than all preservation lc except the BP lc or his sig 
yeah this one appeared OK on the list, vs others
I saw in guoba vid
his shield scales with atk% cause they need you to pull his lc
forgot bad words are bad here
i don't wanna be forced to roll his lc 
you don't need to, think it's overkill on all content except arbitration

fam has a tankier shield than my aventurine S1 with just the bp LC lmao
what do i do with my e7 aven now 
bin him

wait you got e6 aventurine? ๐ฎ
yes
wonder if I just give dan heng my acheron LC ๐

I can get the BP one
journey, forever peaceful one. I never know what ones to get on that so it's an option
yeah that's the best
it has big atk stick iirc
my acheron is benched atm
would like to build dot/nihility again but I skipped on hysilens
cyrene looking meh so far, hope they buff her kit before release
Yeppppp

Both parties are saying RNG is gonna determine it


We got a scapegoat 
Idk, I've lost streaks before, but I didn't know what I was doing
Now I got people that know what they're doing, it hurts a bit less because no one knows what is gonna happen

lemme be the blue one
sure but why blue
fav color 
oh so thats why u like eunhwa


owl @ us when we ruin her cheer
I'll be going with majority this time (for now)

I might change it again tonight, who knows

But I told cup back in round 2 I got them, so I guess I gotta be loyal until the bitter end
so what you're saying is me and phoric gotta pull off the craziest underdog w's of all time
p sure your cheer ratio is better than mine phoric 
oh yea bet
Also, it was nothing against you

But the 4-1 win last match with cup is unavoidable
i dare not look
dared
If you win, I'll be happy for you, genuinely
This has been nothing but underdog story, but also

same bc then that means phoric's first final 
owl ur good u dont need to worry 
but that also means cup breaks his curse of top 8 / top 4 
id cheer for cup to and most pies id say are as well
If I get you again, I'll put my cheer on you, no matter what
Well ill let u know if its a good decision when that happens
This batch's difficulty curve went vertical as of 2 months ago


I'm bad at math, mega oof
they don't know i'm gonna vote radeki too bc i want credits
I've seen these odds before where the 15% won so


and they don't know that Im stupid
i remember someone in here winning finals with like 9% vote
oh yea just another day in the office
for the baby bracketers in the toddler bracket
color coded vote 
wait i need to find that pic
Honestly, times like this is when I wished Nikke provided a bit more info for each opponent
So it's a bit more of an educated guess rather than a flip of the coin
that comes with pvp matchup knowledge 
"previous standing" doesn't matter cuz you guys always upgrade your nikkes so...

I just want to see how finals go, since if this is completely RNG, finals won't be better, I fear
dolphin pies rise up against the leviathan pies ๐ฌ
ah it was against ace lmao
LMFAO i remember that


Create and share a GODDESS OF VICTORY: NIKKE deck
Youโre still in ca? 
yes k but i fear this is where my story ends
at least i made it farther this time 
@umbral belfry can you help me win this matchup
what is it
im gonna tell lova

hmm
Nah im just playing, im gonna beat him up a lil bit at 281

I already know how to win i just need more cp
43 lvl difference 
He whaled for levels a bit yeah
Hes not the biggest one tho
Hes only 4th in levels
He is however, one of 2 people i cant beat at my current sync
Ammo update, we did it chat 
just ๐ณ harder than him, show him who's boss 
Im jumping in range to attack him in a few days
You need 11.6% more ammo
oh that! cindy survived a laser nuke at the end, covers were gone and depleted, her clones saved her. She clutched
Everyone else was downed from the nuke
new pvp meta: cc
@umbral belfry stop stealing my meth
no i need to be a cc merchant 

in hsr news, dan heng helped me clear king in check in 2 cycles
varka 
I thought 30 was fine
Or better don't use Scarlet P1 

It is, but just imagine the crispy, shiny, supreme 32 ammo scar
finally

Then how am I supposed to run double buff scar

Single is all you Need and some lines
Noah has skill that reduce atk, so you might not wiping if you put Scarlet in P1 P2
No I need to wipe nero moran
And slow cindy
Im scared my 4 atk 4 crit wont kill something and ill lose so she gets fed trina and rh
You just need to burst before anything 
Yeah but what if somebody survives
I need to instakill rumani, i cant risk bisc proc
If you have proper Scarlet you should 1 tap
That's fine, if any you might need CS for faster
I knew it.
Getting 5% in SEA is as hard as 3% in global.
in several months or a year, once you've most core pve units built up, you'll do better 
Nah too lazy for that.
3/4 guys came from smol bracket this time.
Ofc I had to face the highest synch guy. 
As the lowest synch and research of the bunch
me too 
and I'm fighting the highest 
Over 100 level difference? 

Always has been
๐ฃ
lock in 
๐ฅง
@raven plover even the F2P in my CA is Synch 618 you are clearly level bricked.
Echo moment?
I am yea, I didnt buy event attempts since day 1 and never wipe out other than the daily free 
started buying it on summer helm banner 
event attempt I mean 
oh i guess i have 2rl in rookie arena now, thank you dps trina 
That's a blue whale rather than long time player. Bro even buy research level... The catch up must be lots more money than that typical day one max out whale spending. 
Right I think
Now that I have lvel11 my tempering I'm deciding between 3-4 month to lv15 resilence or Tempering. 
gotta be hard
Should've push that Cindy lol
I see right likely win 4-1
Expected. Down 1% in last 6 hours is normal
which one does right side lose? the 4th round?
I'm not sure how the cindy mihara team works nor the stall vesti team
Yeah, but there us a chance they could kill scarlet with normal attack too.
meanwhile me in jp 
getting into 3% without spending is hard
Funny thing is this acc failed to get 3% because I don't have Dolla for Isabel comp
Year one f2p player who invested in SR should be able to get this score effortlessly. If you tried harder you could get more.
just use any cdr then. Not really different.
I did take a break here and there but yea if you played everyday since the launch then it'll be pretty easy
I mean the other B2 CDR is HelmS, but I also don't have her 
Even volume work. Actual she had better CDR value than Dolla or helm
Dolla only used because she had a small off burst buffing
I'm using Tove for B1, so I need secondary B2 for 2nd DPS
See this team? The only thing Dolla has over Volume is her skill one giving 15% AtK 5 in 10 seconds, off burst. 
That doesn't make your 9.6b into 10b. 
No, Isabel has -5s burst, so with CDR she can burst over and over again
Arcana is 40s so you need 2nd B2 for Drake and a CDR
Mine only deal like 2B 
You lost to me
Whatโs a good counter to the following?
Wdym 
volume is a CDR, did you read her skill?
I got below 2%
T1 is RNG, T2 Scarlet Soda, T3 Slow Noah
What he mean is b2 arcana isn't enough for fb rotation
If I use Volume I won't be able to burst with Drake 
Meanwhile in SEA as well
We don't have enough CDR for meme solo Isabel Burst
We do but yeah drake off huge buff and Arcana 40s.
1 normal cdr like volume + DKW (max skill 1 + ammo/cs) are enough for 1 b3 meme team.
Is it?
It shave off around 22.5 second at max volume stack. But DKW+Rouge is better
Need more instant CDR yeah
Arcana is 40s burst, so need a 2nd
Well, you basically could shave off 27 second thanks to 5 second from Arcana. You just need enough Ammo and CS on DKW. That make you do pure 1 B3 smoothly
Arcana Isabel is too investment heavy
Maybe I could have got into top 3% if I made that team though
Isabel doesnt scale much on skills, so its mainly ol isabel, skill max arcana
The elemental OLs need alot of rocks on isabel
Arcana isabel is prob +1b from using cope off elem sg team i think, avg invest
So depends
Wdym
Isabel needs lv 10 on her s2
My doro SG team is 1.7b only haha
Her s2 goes from 100%ish to 170% at lvl10, so the level value isnt that high
70% improvement is small.
Then you need to recall why arcana is there
Ya obviously its more dmg lol
Btw, does rouge burst level above 7 good? or 7 is fine.
U dont need to max out dps used for only 1 element 
Support used always, u do 
Basic game strategy 

But Rouge is mainly for 1 elements though.
Even tho shes always been used with cindy off elem, her base kit still just better than sth like dkw
But shed still be used just in the way ppl running dkw now as off b1 cdr
her burst skill is objectively worse than dkw s3 if the dps doesn't use HP conversion 
Thats not her whole kit 
I only asking her s3.
?
Dont know what ur getting at
Yes u should max the supports with 100% usage and not max the units used twice per year
Crazy 
hmmm
PvP MA
What does rail have to do with this
rapi, you gonna snipe?
I never said I maxed out any solo raid dps. 
against soda you can mirror with rosanna
Against soda just use ade smh
cp is a thing my friendo
Nah
Defend, if they have b3 none attacker you are screwed


nooo game is maintenance now I was planning to snipe but yapping too much.
nobody sniped
that's what you get for being a yapper

I'm so reset Naga next anni, and Mana too maybe.
No a single use for Naga in the last 6 months. 
but we just had a electric sr
Where she is most useless

Got sniped 


I did
i was waiting for my bois but they did not
Guys is mihara legit the counter for vesti team
?
Its what I use
then thats the trick
What else this team can counter?
Lots of things
mihara works by sacrificing herself or something?
Can someone attack me while my match is loading?
I was going back and forth with this dude, and I was still in the loading part of the match and it was like 10 seconds after when it showed result
I mean yeah, you can attack right after the server done with calc
But imagine the refresh to get that fast lol
A lot of sniping happened in the last 20 minutes before maintenance
I was waiting for my new friendo JN but did not show up
Would I have to refresh right after my match to check?
Because as soon as I loaded back out, I still saw that I had no opponents left
So it still looked like I was in p1
prob have to go out and back in to see your position refresh
could work but rng, specifically Rumani+Blanc+Biscuit+Midhara missing anyone of them won't work.
There is also chance Blanc getting one shot bypassing Biscuit with a synched Vesti shot.
I do rumani/blanc/bis/cindy/mihara
And i do win whenever i go against vesti
Everyone dying from vesti burst except rumani and blanc , and with my blanc indom and mihara dot they die
Yup, standard slow cindy
Yeah it's the case normally.
You only getting crewed if you are unlucky that Midhara hitting wrong targets. And/or their Vesti team too good.
What the rng about it?
Midhara s1 may not landed on all 5 units. The chance is not small actually.
ooh really that's why sometimes nothing happened
Here's an example
Ic mihara dot is not working on anis here
Is it possible for her s1 to just land on 3 or even less?
so the faster she die the higher the chance?
Yeah
bruh I have to re read her skill
I dont think its written down
Where do u think the best pos for her
P2
Blanc go p3?
Blanc is best in p1
But vesti will destroy blanc like this nah?
Biscuit
Blanc/mihara/rumani/bisc/cindy
I forgot about maintenance and didn't record today's fights, oops
Smh, and now we're never gonna get to replay matches again
Hey you do team testing right? Ive got some questions abt slow cindy
if you have a friendo in your bracket they could record for you and send the videos
but they way you do that would not work

Server is in maintenance right now, no one can record lol
And after maintenance we'll get a version mismatch error probably and not be about to watch any of the replays
Sometimes. If you're asking about the 4RL+ Mihara comp, Yes it works, yes it's weird, yes it wins against stall comps, and yes it loses against 2RL cleave comps
Oh I know it works and all that, I use it myself. I was wondering about the different variations. Ive been using the rumani p1 blanc p3 cuz my rumani is underinvested, and I noticed it beats double buffscar where normally slow cindy loses
I was questioning the merit of this version vs other variations
oh, that makes sense
with mihara is 5RL ๐ค
wins 2rl scarlet if cindy gets biscuit from scarlet reflect, and mihara poison on everyone
in SP you can switch out mihara to make 4rl delayed cindy nuke, works great against vesti or just any 2rl noah/moran team
its my preferred way to fight vesti team which is otherwise really annoying
for rumani p1, you have blanc who is AR and gets reflected into biscuit more easily by scar, meaning you have better chances into scar
different variations have different nuance, cindy before mihara is better against shit pve teams/mirror where mihara doesn't die in time, p2 cindy and p5 rumani has risk of strong RL splash (lapT, emi) getting both biscuit procs used and a third person dies, cindy in p4/p5 does not get biscuit in vesti matchup and will most likely lose against noise/noah variation, while rumani in the back has chance to burst in time before vesti 2nd barrage if vesti is lower cs and your rumani is high enough cs
rumani has max hp stacking with s1 making her tankier than blanc at same investment, which is why a lot of us choose to put rumani in the back instead of p1
slow cindy is an rng team, different orientation has slightly different probabilities, it depends on what ur opponents use and what matches you face
oh, rumani p1 also gets delayed by siren stun while blanc p1 does not because by the time its her turn to burst siren will have expired, i think this may affect some matchups
I think my rumani would have less health than my blanc regardless cuz its a base rumani vs c6 blanc
It is a bit weaker vs siren teams tho from what ive noticed
Rumani is abt half of the gen on the team so her getting stunned slows you down alot more than blanc getting stunned would
๐คฆโโ๏ธ oh right siren just ruins you cuz you lose too much gen
Cindy getting biscuit? โ
Rumani+Blanc getting biscuit then Rumani getting Blanc โ
Is ada worth gold tix @swift mango 
You already got her.
For me all Collab worth the ticket if I couldn't get them.
I want to mlb her but i'm poor 
If you wanted to then do it. Be sure to keep 200 tickets for emergency though.
New player here, can you guys please suggest me a team for rookie arena and sp arena, don't want to compete or anything, just want to make the somewhat viable teams
Hi I'm a new player guys can I get some help building a 3 teams? ๐ญ ๐ญ ๐ญ
Bruhhhh... 
You only have 2 page of bad arena nikke. What did you expected? 
But I don't know how to build teams lol ๐
I always come here for help.
This looks more level bricked than new account
I don't know what you mean by bricked, but I'd appreciate any help ๐ค
I think you've build for different guy
Hey wrong reply. Sorry. The team I made for other guy.
Auto third team.
Lmao... ๐ญ
I thought you were trolling me... ๐ง
@keen vapor job's up
@umbral crown too
Ty
what are T-Vesti min skill investments ?
4104
Alrighty thank you .
Thank you so much.
Also the same for defense? And which one for the rookie arena?
Need some advice on this
I believe someone already answered that
Rookie
You might need 4107 actually. Mb.
So 477 if you wanna saved. But s2 at 10 is her main dmg. S3 at 7 just for the radius after burst.
You are the goat, thank you so much 
Hi guys, can I get some help with this request when someone has time?
I guess I'm a returning player and I've got a lot of new units since I last posted on the PvP help. I was hoping to get some updated teams for all PVP content.
There is a second set of pictures under that post too that are my units as well.
you may get more success doing the image in horizontal mode
Is that the recommended format?
Yeah, your team to shine hippo cook for him. 
I'd not mind taking a look but the images are hard to make sense of with so many and only 9 nikkes per image
flip the settings to horizontal you can get way more in one image
but I'll probably have to look after I finish work in 7 hours or so
Ty, sorry for the trouble... ๐
it's fine re-send your images with horizontal mode on if you can, if someone else gets around to it before I finish work then np, otherwise poke me later
@worldly wadi
#pvp-arena message
SParena
T1: jackal siren scarlet trina noir
T2: noise centi cindy helmt rumani
T3: noah biscuit s.anis laplaceT RH
Cubes
quantum on jackal, noir, trina
vigor on siren, noise, biscuit
temperance on noah, rumani, s.anis
s.anis resil, s.anis burst lvl 9 minimun, no ammo OL
rest can run w/e highest lvl cube left (resil/bastion)
T1: jackal emilia blanc bay laplaceT (quantum on jackal, temperance on blanc and emilia) - has 10% chance to lose if soda RNG hits both B2
T2: skip
T3: noah trina biscuit ros helmT
record for science when you attempt
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Best teams for pvp?
Rail working hard 
jackal scarlet blanc centi noir
noise liter rrh anis alice
noah biscuit sbs rh drake
wishlist/build
rapunzel, rumani, trina, cinderella, vestiTU, helm treasure, laplace treasure, drake treasure
just killing time in lunch break
๐

Thanks ๐
Are โtempering cubeโ and โtemperance cubeโ the same thing?
aka tempura cube
@wet crystal getting this out the way before it's too late 
Hime when champ?
One day 
Both jackal and Blanc got stunned and then wiped. Other than that, T3 won
I'm about to see them rn ill ask


pvp team suggestion?
Can you invest in Scarlet and Trina? 
i have a lot of resources ๐
This is one of the few accounts that does not have Noah
can't find Vesti tactical up either
Let's see....
yeaaa noah has been in my wishlist for a year..
Laplace still no treasure 
i can probably get her there ๐ค
2 limit breaks already?
core 2 actl
2.9 380 110
2.9?
omg is missing a k
๐ซก
just wary with my kit usage cuz of anniv otw
will jus put this here if it helps
Rosanna piece 
Unused custom locks 
Enjoy
Come up with this 
Ngl, is quite risky to level up doll with 100, I don't think it'll leave enough for 2 banners (like last year)
๐ฟthis is my goal
emmas didn't make it 
and lost sg mirror at round 1
no more Emma's 
if I win this season we might see people copy emmas comp next season lol
besti dmg is so insane..
like she kills my trina before she can burst
and for my trina to kill a god noise noah team within burst...
Maybe like my synch Vesti one shottng Trina on her first shot.
Maybe Kent could make it after 13 season. 
kent already got 1 win

Yeah, he won season 2.
I never won 
My rh looks small
for pvp this is better than RH imo
One day. Maybe not today. 
Fr,ill build her till aniv with my resources
high cost sadly wants some good OL lines and SR-15 4/10/10 or 7/10/10
@dense kindle it's been a honor 
Hey guys I've been away for a few months now and i just got back, can someone help me setup arena teams? Tia!
Last cheer for me.
Radeki vs cup, what should I do?
@umbral belfry @acoustic light GG, by the way!!
Y'all did amazing
I can look at the matchups soon
Yea the soda rng wasnโt on my side again 
Third times the charm 
@shell hazel did the moran guy become a blonc guy? 
they did
moran/blanc guy now
beat tenshi so somewhat could be fav to win
our top 8 is quite tough to crack, lots of built teams
Getting back to this, do you think it's an equipment thing?
Unfortunately not - soda is about pure rng as u can get

The investment "rng" so to speak actually played out as we were talking about yesterday
This next matchup is gonna be finna wild then ๐ ๐
just so u believe us and that we're not being hindsight harrys here
Surely it'll be less RNG for the finals, right? ๐ญ ๐ญ
I can check
I'm down for any hindsight, I don't mind, honestly!!
An informed voter is better than an uninformed voter indeed 
Also, you were right, T3 went in your favour for your match 
For t1 - the question we didnt know was whether my high invest vesti unbuffed could kill thru what is a completely maxed out stall (cup)
Soda is the only pure RNG unit, but sometimes the match can be decided even without RNG 
like a weak Scar cannot kill through invested Noise B1 even if you stun both Noise + Noah
My ReiT finally loses... And my SG is losing as usual.
Did you get the cup vs radeki match as well?
I sacrificed my self for a honorary pie, I have no regrets 
hime ๐
Either it's my revenge arc on this whale or it's his first time getting champ. ๐ซ
I was pretty sure to get Revenge on the Chris guy winning me thrice already but then he lost to this whale. 
๐ซก ๐ซก you did great, honestly!!
You think the honorary pie has the finals or nah?
I am too lazy to look at matchups 
my baby scar 
nowadays I just click whoever
trying her best out here
and 
I'm at work so I can't check matchups
Have a good sleep 
maybe I will join next CA 
All good!
If you have time... 
but my teams are shit so it won't matter

yea so t1 - my vesti was strong enough and t3 is hard counter to cup t2 - was close and havent seen the matchup before t4 t5 - were the soda rng ones and I lost both

Reshuffle is gonna be insane though, trust

tbh I will probably have to wait until NY to get Vesti before getting any upgrades to my team
Now I gotta check radeki and see where they are
unless I pull Laplace or Noah somewhere 

lock in
wait kuwon u dont have lapT 
my Laplace 1LB 
perrohug
Maybe about time to believe this would be my run. 
just enter CA to lose in groups 
Should I assume that soda RNG means a loss? Or does it depend on other units
Soda wins if it's just Noah B2 and there's no B1 defensive option
if they have Moran or Noise, majority of the time 1 buff Scar Trina cannot lethal
Ahhhh
unless their team is super shit or your Scar is insane
just be faster than noise 
(and have a strong scar unlike me)
I wanted her but spent 110 pull and didn't get her, and not willing to spend more
I thought ur scar was strong
was a cs merchant too long and not an atk merchant 
radeki is just max invest
my gems not that abundant 
Can someone help me set teams for the arena? I just got back from a long break and im struggling
I quite literally said she was baby
many times.
maybe u just have high standards
20% atk is baby scar imo
but she tried her best I have no regrets 
Ill let you borrow mine for 1 season
to invalidate 1 buff Scar

Scar needs good stats on everything
mhm
4 atk 4 crit rate 1 ammo
getting more atk on my scar can wait
cs is more important than me
So for this match, for instance, that means the RNG isn't in soda's favour, or at least, if it is doomed, it is doomed?
Oh yea @bleak marsh crit rng is a thing too
nah that one is dooned
work wifi so bad I cannot help you LOL
Here you go, treat her nice
Vesti LapT kills Scar before she can burst even if Noah + Noise stunned
the damage on that is too high
I CANT SEEEEE

All good, LMAO
I can wait until you get good wifi, just don't forget about me 
maybe we can make more accurate predictions this way ๐ค
I choose left
you might need to ping me again bc I have meemaw memory
Just need to crit. If you had 55% crit rate, you have more chance to win than to lose.
unless cup's LapT has no ele dmg, then maybe Scar has chance to live
I remember someone made that joke about vesti and how they would obliterate the other team
but I really doubt, Vesti LapT is so much damage
just for that I pick right
I gotchu
Idk the time zones, but if you're PST, I think I can ping you in 1.5 hours?
if Centi has ele dmg it's even more unlucky 
I know 
double iron + Vesti
You both can't be wrong. 
I used to be PST until July
now I'm est (3 hrs ahead)
bet
I think the only real win condition is if Radeki has so much cs that Noise is stunned before she can B1 and Scar lives
Damn, west coast is best coast, smh
So I guess it's gonna be lunch for you in 30 minutes?
You both cover both option already. 

yes we can 
I'm on lunch rn, I just can't see pics LMAO
The first team, btw
Radeki put their vesti with Noah
I'm not off until 4 hrs
You can't have worse wifi than my school wtf๐ญ ๐ญ ๐ญ

Stay strong and remember, get that bag ๐ค ๐ค

We earn money to game, remember the prize
I am pretty sure Nero stall cannot get over Noah Biscuit even if they can survive the Vesti attacks
ur uni has bad wifi
id die tbh
You can safely bet on whichever fight that's not hard countered, Radeki would win with his huge research diff. 
Unless, Cup learned to do the Vesti synch.
hippo showed vids of vesti stall failing to kill stall
Ohhhhh
max stall v max vesti 
can't believe hippo lied smh
well if it gets to 2nd rotation and the team is full intact then stall can win
the battle of max cores
max f2p
but I think it's rough
Yeah..
They want us to focus on learning, I guess
cuz they are doing 0 lifesteal into Noah
Does cup have 400 level on Pilgrim research?
even if they have 70% dmg reduc they are getting chipped down
I don't know the counters, tbh
I can't see rn but he's also a leviathan
actually I can hang on

Other than hime (sorry!!!), this is the matches
only Nero will have 100% dmg reduc
wait this is baby bracket v toddler bracket 
The only counters I know are anis, neon, and rapi
Max core is just common whale. Super high research level for there synch or Max out synch level are the only things that could could be called leviathan.
XMaid I think has the highest chance to die because she doesn't heal to trigger Nero passive, so she'll be like 60% dmg reduc
and since they will be in Noah invin for 3s she can't lifesteal
it'll depend on Vesti rocket timing though
@worthy sorrel I always knew you were a common whale 
Idk how much ammo Radeki has and when he reloads
if ur not calling cup a leviathan idk what to tell u lmao
cup is just like us i knew it 
Need to screenshot his research or synch. 
sec
if he has like 8-12 ammo and XMaid not dead before reloading maybe can lifesteal back enough from rocket splash to survive
I am assuming that probability is low
But you aren't even a whale. 
phoric f2p real
Low Spender isn't whale
my nero moran team loses alot is it too slow to trigger the dmg reduction?
im thinking of removing that team
you have cs on Helm?
but radeki 

He is a whale alright but nowhere on Radeki level.
I agree true f2p
Can I be f2p+
because as long as Moran bursts you should have high survival into most teams
f2phoric+
I think they spend the same radeki started earlier thats all
Omg, based on synchro alone, radeki should be fine 
15.57 cs + lvl 5 adjutant cube
that's how I knew it was gg for me 
what is your stall losing to
I see, thank you
(This will also help me in the future as well for story hard mode
)
me with my baby recycling
Did you check Radeki research level? It's not something starting a few months earlier could reach.
438
I never considered synchro to be a play, since everyone is level 400
then whats above leviathan bc Im not calling cup a whale
yeah research level is purely pull amount based
for how many body labels you can have
True fish
you need to keep pulling even after getting C7 on everyone to get more body labels
Dang...
you're right. it's the recycling for added stats that also makes a difference but doesn't mean you instant lose
it just makes it harder to win


weird how i can see emote but not pics

well its not working lmao
phoric go focus in class
I'll ping you in 4 hours to see what you think
But synchro is something to think about
2 of them killed by scarlet
did your Nero die to Scar counter or something
I'm not in class rn but 
pre-burst?
Basically you would need more luck. 
I'm just happy to make it farther this time 
at least lv8
I did class ended and I was met with a bunch of perrohugs 

I'm resetting Nero and Rosanna 
Not everyone has sr15
us in the pie stands watching pie finals 
You did great!!
Slow and steady wins the race


thanks
I'll have that shiny star one day
Nero sure whatever. Rossana you max her out and use her in SpA. 
cups Laplace is 0 ele 11.81 attack vesti is 27 attack
i also put lvl 8 tempering on nero and moran
2d in maincord 
I think your Mana die to Scar counter and your speed dropped so you can't even Moran burst
Nah it ain't working 
It was a good run ๐ฅฒ ,
the pies watching cup and radeki rn
gonna need to have a talk with cup later bc 0 lap ele 
dam mana is a burden haha
LMAO
yea she is not OLed and 4, 4, 4
I believe
I have 2 Ele and 1 atk on lap. 

is it ? - ? - radeki - cup - cup?
my vesti didn't have the atk % to overcome it before
sure would be nice if I could see pics to predict
That's what I'm thinking too
she may do now - I improved her stats


4 hours!!!
I'll ping, dw

OL mana worth it? it doesnt increase her survivability much i think
looks like 4 line should be enough usually unless its against cup/radeki levels of invest then closer to 50 atk
either i remove the whole nero moran team or i build smth else
that's us 
it helps a little but not that much, Nero stall mainly just rely on dmg reduc stats from Moran B1 + Nero passive (for healers) + doll + tempering
I have a new black line too 
if you reach high enough dmg reduc you can live
you gonna share or nah
my initial vesti was like 1-2 atk rolls and not otherwise great ones - I did improve it she should be a lot more lethal against the same comps now
if you can't you lose
if we wanna all in on nero moran then i need to OL nero and sr15 her and rapu too but not sure if it is still worth it, or nero moran is falling out of meta?
black line hit rate it is

I don't think Nero stall falling out of meta, most people in top 64-32 cannot beat it
Not the Yamcha
was it that bad
it's when you get to top 16+ and the weak players are filtered out when it starts to really lose
resetting on anni yup 
nero moran and SG has the lowest win rate of my teams
I got 4-1'd for the first time 
felt like that scene of Thanos yoinking out the infinity stone out of that dude's forehead
fully invested Nero stall should be good win rate until you play against the top players tbh
did you record? if jackal gets stunned on 2RL before casting means opponent runs pretty high CS%
Belum is Hermann.
Could I have your data on 1st and 2nd season? I forgot to save them. Thank you. 
when I see pve teams in top 8 
some people just get god pathing 
molater
I see people making these with Moran helm etc instead
No one vote rhode except himself or lose frame
a crazy stat tho first 4-1 in 14 seasons a
run
SAnis Biscuit is like old old tech lol
Yeah, it's just research diff could make your Nero died to counter before Moran burst. 
my goat

I see a lot of people running moran noah helm RH variant these days instead of nero
Rhode gonna pull off the biggest underdog trust






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