pvp-arena

[tropic summit]

change your teams to this

crown biscuit ein helmt rh
jackal vesti:TU blanc anchorIM SBS
noise noah cindy trina siren

oh oke looks like your scarlet is stun resistant

[tropic summit]

but you're not bursting with trina

scar trina rh flex jackal

trina buff = RH + blanc
by running a scarlet buffed with trina and RH you obtain essentially lethal on most circumstances

ideally aim for scarlet to be 10/x/10
trina 4/7/7 (minimun)
RH max invest

[shell hazel]

if you fix the nikke private thing I can generate a good report of these and you can see what to invest in next better maybe

was going to look at summing this next Rail for each one

[slate falcon]

Nothing I s set to private in my privacy settings though

[slate falcon]

I’ll try this

[tropic summit]

an extra column with summed up CS%, atk%, ele atk would be useful

(even if CS% is calculated probably incorrectly, it will be giving a good rough idea)

[shell hazel]

it def is

[lone sequoia]

if that happen you will join a older bracket

[unborn fable]

Oh... Thanks very much!

[shell hazel]

click lock icon top right and change the public option

you need to check in shiftypad itself

you're in a dif section

[slate falcon]

Wait a sec

Ok try it again now

[shell hazel]

yeah will look at adding I'd find it useful too

[shell hazel]

nope not atm

[shell hazel]

there we go can see em now

[slate falcon]

Quick question isn’t crown bad for PvP though? Why put her in this team?

[shell hazel]

heh, thighs.xlsx 😄

[slate falcon]

Is she just a biscuit feed?

[slate falcon]

Thank you

[shell hazel]

quick run down, don't put more skills on jackal 7/7/7 is plenty

vesti TU wants 10 for skill 2, her skill 1 isn't as useful. you can get away with 4/10/10 or 7/10/10 so looks like you need to 10/10/10 Vest TU for now

[tropic summit]

1st) keeps your CP high
2nd) she combos with biscuit and ein

[shell hazel]

Alice is fine on 10/4/10, you could reset her at some point and get a few skill mats back, before setting her back to 10/4/10

Blanc burst is the main one, she's on 7/7/8 but I'd leave her s1/s2 and get her burst to 10 at some point

7/7/10 I guess for Blanc then

centi doesn't really need more skills either (mine is 7/7/7 for cp)

my Trina is 7/10/10 this may be a little overkill but you could push Trina more instead of stuff like Centi gets more value

[slate falcon]

For the first team should I replaced crown with Moran after I build her?

[slate falcon]

I see

[tropic summit]

replacing crown with moran in that team adds nuke resistance but kills partially your atk% buff

while likely she'll have less CP than crown

i don't suggest investing into moran for SParena

[shell hazel]

you pushed a lot of skills into units you haven't been able to OL yet fully

[slate falcon]

Not for SParena for the one that give you gems

[shell hazel]

Rumani needs to be built to basic level as she is useful - 4/4/4 with SR-5 doll eventually (R-15 is OK if you lack RL dolls)

[tropic summit]

looking at your box i'd rather:

• get laplace treasured (after the buff, she's clip RL tier)
• increase your utilities CP (noah, trina, rumani)

[tropic summit]

that's SParena

[shell hazel]

I'd build Rumani ahead of Moran

[slate falcon]

Mb

[tropic summit]

no worries

[slate falcon]

Any particular reason why?

[tropic summit]

cuz rumani has core spots in SParena teams

notably cinderella 2RL or 2.5RL teams

[shell hazel]

rumani is high burst gen battery for any SPA team

yeah upgrade your cindy for campaign as well as pvp as she needs a doll

[slate falcon]

I thought I understood PvP but you guys are just resetting everything i thought I knew🥲

[shell hazel]

I'd prioritise giving cindy your next purple RL doll

[slate falcon]

That’s the plan

[shell hazel]

rumani burst gen is almost as good as jackal

there isn't any other b1 to compare with these two really

[tropic summit]

on a very general sense, the units you want for your arena variations teams

jackal, RH, HelmT, vestiTU, siren, trina, rumani, noah, biscuit, cinderella, noise, centi, laplaceT

situationally: RRH, SBS, AnchorIM, Ein, Midhara, DrakeT

[slate falcon]

I’ll be right back give me a sec

[shell hazel]

you need to get another dupe of LapT for treasure

[polar bolt]

Hey everyone, any recommendations how to beat this team?

[obtuse dagger]

i reccomend indom + emi 2RL Rosanna B1

[slate falcon]

I’ve been trying for a 2months now after I got helm😭😭

[slate falcon]

Forgot to ask is this Def or Atk team? Or is it just for both?

[crystal pollen]

how to set up defense like which b3 would burst here if on defense?

[placid bloom]

left to right

[crystal pollen]

aight just confused was winning when attacking but lose on defence

[polar bolt]

Just to clarify, indom Emi? Or use Emi to reach 2RL?

[covert lintel]

The easiest is rosanna+4sg to 1 shot unprotected noah then snipe helm and vesti

If you don't have rosanna then wait other opinion

[polar bolt]

...lol I didn't even shotgun team

[tropic summit]

those are defense teams, attack is based on what you facing

can situationally work for attack as long as you know what you doing

[tropic summit]

if rookie and assuming you want to burst with vestiTU

jackal vestiTU helmt drakeT noah

a few reasons:

• noah taunts (after 1RL) the enemy units in p1 and p2. Opponent can make use of this to hit multiple units for extra burst gen if noah isn't in p1 or p5
• burst order is left to right, the B3 you wanna burst with, since you've 3 B3s, needs to be before the others
• since you've jackal as your main B1, you can make use of this and run her in p1. Assuming you're either natural or promoted to 2RL, jackal is siren immune (this won't save your noah from being stunned if enemy runs siren in p1 or p2, as noah will taunt her)
• assuming your team has 11%CS wide and is natural 2RL, you'll then be noah siren resistant, as you'll hit B2 before enemy hits stun, even if noah is taunting siren

[harsh arch]

Rumani has lower burst gen than Centi and Jackal numbers her without her burtsgen feeding skill

[keen vapor]

So you're telling me to not overload Isabel

[crystal pollen]

was using this on both atk and def and was losing on def but fine on atk so just really confuse how defense bursting/positioning works but ill try to use that positioning and see how it goes

[nimble swan]

If no feed they will perform nearly identical in almost all comps

Speed wise at least

[tropic summit]

you missed the part about why you should run noah in p5 with that one though

re-read it carefully

[crystal pollen]

i did read but just showing what i was using before i will try use what you recommend

[tropic summit]

oh alrighty

[harsh arch]

It almost impossible to not feeding good placed Jackal.

[north brook]

Rumani main niche is being usable as b1 battery on any team w/o jackal really

[tropic summit]

• is defender
• does not feed
• can survive low buffed nukes

[wind kelp]

There ya go @wicked horizon , enjoy 3rd, i'll take it if i can't hold 4th and need a point boost, but we'll see

Nice little whale buffer on 5-6 XD

[placid breach]

dam this dude been trying beat copy my entire team lol

[wicked burrow]

@shell hazel I tested it, so basically rh teams don't work, I also surprised about second one what a clutch but probably it wasn't supposed to be this way? And the third one is just perfect I guess

[quartz rover]

I swapped my defense to this before reset, is this any better?

This is my old one

[tropic summit]

T3 is very slow, only requires 259k CP to beat
T2 can be skipped (you're committing blanc, biscuit jackal in the same team)
T1 will be dealt with a noah + DPS B3 (or indom)

the above assumes your opponent knows what to do anyway, might still work

[placid breach]

bruh trying beat denji but for next opponent that 1 above i decied fk i swap out one char and worked XD

this some works lol

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel holy yes 15% cs on rapunzel is get

15.12

oh wait no i dont

i mathed wrong

i'm 14.44

https://tenor.com/view/hp-harry-potter-voldemort-nyaaaaaaaah-gif-15851976

[placid bloom]

where's your rounding

[gritty ridge]

Why did rapi die before burst

I think helm stole link from rapi

[placid bloom]

time for you to kick RH for Ada Wong

[lone sequoia]

scarlet s2+helm hits?

[gritty ridge]

I fixed it by upgrading rapi's helmet by 1

[slate falcon]

@tropic summit Im trying your recommendations, but I got some questions, why not swap Tree and Biscuit for when I build Rumani and Moran since Moran scales better together with Tree?

And I decided to use Ceni instead of Crown for burst gen

[gritty ridge]

Much better

[tropic summit]

you're losing out on a buff without gaining any burst gen threshold at all though, put crown back

[tropic summit]

tree? i suppose you mean trina... moran trina is a very niche combo, as the rest of your team can still die leaving just moran alive for then being finished off.

You want the B2 to either indom or give you anti nuke / damage reduction stack

as such, the only realistic combos you could run with moran:

-moran bay helmt flex flex
-noah moran helmt flex flex
-nero moran helmt flex flex

[slate falcon]

So just completely ditch Centi?

[tropic summit]

you could put centi instead of Manchor but you miss out on extra CP

those teams are made with the best of your current built nikke

[slate falcon]

Oh

[tropic summit]

by balancing team threat, resistances and CP, while keeping speed to decent or good

[gritty ridge]

Can besti put out as much dps as rapi on indom?

[slate falcon]

I see, but shouldn’t Biscuit and Cinderella be together though since they both defenders?

[tropic summit]

cinderella has very poor burst gen, you'd then need to take units away from other teams which will nerf down your overall balance

while you can run cinderella with biscuit, with your current box, it would leave your other teams way weaker

[tropic summit]

RRH can bypass as she hits whole team
VestiTU can get blocked on p1 to hit p1-p2-p3 only

they serve different purposes situationally

[gritty ridge]

Im debating using her against the scar team above but idk if she can kill with noah bursting

Although my vesti has 3 ele lines noah might just die

[slate falcon]

Oh I see, I’ll be asking a lot you a lot of questions from not on, this is the consequence of rewrite what I thought I knew about PvP or the game in general

[tropic summit]

that's fine although i might not be always here, some other lads can answer if they're online

[gritty ridge]

Wait, if vesti is getting taunted to shoot p3 isnt she hitting the whole team

[glad meteor]

Yeah

[gritty ridge]

Does nikke.work account for splash feed?

I might be able to burst before noah

[strange linden]

are these good teams?

[umbral belfry]

@dense kindle stuck at another cc

the struggles of being a pvp goon

[dense kindle]

What team are you using

[umbral belfry]

cindy sanis crown rrh rh but now I get sniped (also I had help ) my usual crown siren rrh cindy helm makes me time out

time to whip out ada

[dense kindle]

Built ada 👀

[umbral belfry]

[dense kindle]

using rh for b1 or is she bursting

[umbral belfry]

b1

[jagged mesa]

I thought vesti under burst hits everyone

[umbral belfry]

she does if s2 / burst is min lv7

I forgot which one it has to be

[jagged mesa]

Burst

[umbral belfry]

[formal quiver]

I can't believe misinformation was spread in maincord

first time it's ever happened

[dense kindle]

Send Nero and Moran they’ll get the job done

[umbral belfry]

[dense kindle]

On a serious note is mast ready yet

[umbral belfry]

(no)

[umbral crown]

[quartz rover]

nice Mast

[dense kindle]

no ol 🥲, hmm maybe everyone else can make up for it

[umbral belfry]

the path of a pvp goon is unforgiving

also don't look at the max

[dense kindle]

First thing i saw , must be nice

[jagged mesa]

Omg core max mmast, build her now you'll decimate pve

[umbral belfry]

[hollow lagoon]

max core mast club

[slate falcon]

@tropic summit your recommendation seems to be working, this guy always took my 7th place from me but after your rework he can’t. Ty🙃

[raven plover]

not yet

[umbral belfry]

[umbral crown]

@keen vapor 441 boost is real

From 2.831

[keen vapor]

I'll get 481 boost and beat you

[umbral crown]

Would you?

If i get some blue lines i might make it to 3m

[rich quail]

481?

That’s all?

You lost ground to me again

[keen vapor]

I will open molds as well

[keen vapor]

Oh well, I'll get 481 naturally, but you're right, with cases I'll be higher

[umbral crown]

Really?

[keen vapor]

Yes

[rich quail]

I’m at 512 now

I expect you to be at least at 510

[keen vapor]

Happy for you

[umbral crown]

Then go 501

[rich quail]

I had to

There are 2 others who kept leveling up 3-4 times a week

[umbral crown]

Boost is waiting

[rich quail]

[keen vapor]

3-4 times a week

[rich quail]

Once you get to 501, the core dust wall hits hard

So that slowed them down

[keen vapor]

14k

[rich quail]

Yeah

I used to be over 20 sync levels behind these 2 people

Now I’m 6-7 levels behind

[keen vapor]

Will @hoary maple slow down?

[pastel narwhal]

[keen vapor]

Be ready 🫵 raid is starting in 3 hours

[keen vapor]

Aoi Besti

[pastel narwhal]

[keen vapor]

How's your Vesti

[pastel narwhal]

cursed

[keen vapor]

Not enough ammo?

[pastel narwhal]

had to tix her in her banner and then her lines not cooperating

[umbral crown]

Imagine having ammo

@umbral belfry

[pastel narwhal]

her ammo is good, just hard to balance atk/ele

[umbral belfry]

GET AMMO ON VESTI ROSY

[umbral crown]

But but

[pastel narwhal]

omg mommy hime is here , hide !

[umbral belfry]

[keen vapor]

Goodbye Besti I missed you

[umbral crown]

[pastel narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-scared-cuteness-animals-aww-gif-17687147

[keen vapor]

Cats are so smart

[vapid lake]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-shake-gif-19831790

[keen vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1026322546934698004.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=whyyysnapped

[umbral crown]

Give me 481 boost to fight the whlale

He is lonely in C1

[hoary maple]

Why would you not open dust boxes?

[rich quail]

Because Echo is a masochist who is saving core dust for Nikke 2

ban

[keen vapor]

<@&946725432554836008> pls

[ancient kayak]

Pla pla pla pla pla pla

[keen vapor]

Huh

Oh it's my fault, nvm

[nocturne quest]

git gud

[lone sequoia]

watch him jump +300 lvls when we reach chapter 50

[ancient kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/shookai-umamusume-satono-diamond-gif-14347762895409516784

[nocturne quest]

https://tenor.com/view/satono-diamond-kitasan-black-dancing-tongue-out-umamusume-gif-10360028360813380941

[keen vapor]

So those scale better with new chapters

But need to defeat Mirror Container for it

[hoary maple]

You finish the chapters until you can't. Then you open the core dust boxes. Then you clear more chapters

[rich quail]

I’m at MC right now

[keen vapor]

On normal circumstances, yes

Next breakpoint is a +10 core dust per hour increase
#1229775845334319185

So, I decided to hoard

Oh, okay, it's 9 still biggest increase ever

[glacial hatch]

Can I get some help? How do I beat this team?

[indigo path]

wat can i do to beat this guy

nvm i can beat him HAHA

[keen vapor]

Ah, the P1 skip

[keen vapor]

Vesti Indom

[indigo path]

someone helped me with another team, but i can't use it rn cause too low cp

so i threw testi in for now to salvage

and she's cooking overtime

[glacial hatch]

Don't have her

[keen vapor]

Emilia invested?

[umbral crown]

Nah, just open all

Thats for brick people

[glacial hatch]

I could possibly do that, got any other suggestions?

[keen vapor]

Right, 2 defenders + biscuit...

Moran Noah stall so you stack damage reduction and with heals... Like Helm lifesteal

[gritty ridge]

Can I run rosa sg as t3 if I cant afford like nero moran?

[keen vapor]

Isn't SG team equally expensive to build?

[umbral crown]

Yeah, just get lucky

[umbral crown]

Not really

[gritty ridge]

Not really, manchor is already built and then its just soda and drake that need strong atk

[umbral crown]

Wheres your viper

[gritty ridge]

[umbral crown]

[gritty ridge]

Id rather use mamchor or x.anne than viper

[umbral crown]

SG does not need manchor, it needs the units to make the damage and kill pre burst

[glacial hatch]

I'll try this, thanks!

[gritty ridge]

Silly, I have dps manchor

[umbral crown]

Thats where you missing the point of SG, it needs to kill fast

[gritty ridge]

35% atk manchor mlb

[gritty ridge]

Isnt x.anne the standard CA comp?

[umbral crown]

It is cuz revive

But if you put viper which is clip SG her gen will be better and damage

[gritty ridge]

The main reason I say manchor tho is cuz manchor is heavily built compared to my naked viper

[umbral crown]

Thats another thing then

But check this fight

[lone sequoia]

the atk-dispel priority

[gritty ridge]

Ewww sg team with no noir

[umbral crown]

[gritty ridge]

Blanc seems to be a really odd choice for sg team tho

[lone sequoia]

really good option for b2

[umbral crown]

It works against some comps

[lone sequoia]

but you have better teams to use her depending on unit distribution

[umbral crown]

Indom any sg its a sure win in most cases

[gritty ridge]

Yeah blanc is a very good b2, but that sg comp is now slower compared to other molds and you also steal blanc from another comp

[umbral crown]

His others comp were not bad

[gritty ridge]

Yeah im not saying he's bad or anything, just an odd choice

[lone sequoia]

it doesn't matter, the mirror depends in 2~3 things
who lose the first unit
can rosanna oneshot
atk priority so rosanna avoid enemy rosanna dispel

the easiest answer for mirror is the one with more SGs should win, but that fight was a rosanna p4-5 diff- if blanc burst land on rosanna you have an interesting fight but got sniped

[gritty ridge]

Oh I wasnt specifically talking abt mirror matches

I meant in general

[lone sequoia]

yep, weird team, SG rosanna used to be a cheap team but after the puppet/tempering patch they need more resources and work different depending on the SG element

2 iron for electric focus, 1~2water for dmg against DR team, bsoda, drake, noir more balanced

[gritty ridge]

Yeah im a fan of b.soda drake anne rosa noir

[lone sequoia]

laplace/sugar/blanc/nuke/rosanna

[gritty ridge]

Sac noir is growing on me tho

[lone sequoia]

xanne dps?

[gritty ridge]

I like this comp, its 2rl with lvl 10 s2 but a quantum makes it safer

[quick lake]

indeed best in slot sg team

[lone sequoia]

DEF lins on poli and higher atk in your SGs than rosanna

[gritty ridge]

Is it? I just threw it together cuz I liked the idea

[lone sequoia]

no

you need p5 rosanna for CA

[gritty ridge]

I dont want rosa to get eaten by defending sg units

[lone sequoia]

SU fixed that long ago

used to be a 50/50 against defending SGs

now every time they skip rosanna to p4

[gritty ridge]

Ohh rosana skips now?

Nice

[lone sequoia]

around CA season 1

[gritty ridge]

I meant sg specifically

Sg and sr have weird targeting prio

[lone sequoia]

but you still need more atk on your SGs to avoid enemy rosanna dispel

[gritty ridge]

They'll hit cindy in p5 when cindy gets skipped in p1

[lone sequoia]

cover+decoy angle

well that is what i think

[lone sequoia]

Su "changed how cover work just to reduce whiff/dodge for normal RL shots"

after that patch whiff is really rare for normal shots but the window for reload whiff is stronger

[gritty ridge]

Well poli is my next treasure after tove so ill try that out when I can

Tove is at 140 somethin mats so I can swap to collect poli real soon

Solo raid will hopefully speed it up

[umbral crown]

Rosa P5 skip to P4

[gritty ridge]

Thx yonexi

Very fast information

[umbral crown]

But did not ypu watch the video i fowarded?

[gritty ridge]

I did watch it

[umbral crown]

My rosa is p5 skipping to poli but polo tanks all SGs

[gritty ridge]

I didnt notice the target skip cuz I was confused by the opponent team

[umbral crown]

Jahaha happena

[gritty ridge]

Yeah poli p4 on sg team goes hard

[umbral crown]

Its working for me

And if defendijng, they need to kill my viper first and if not scar she not gonna die that easy

[gritty ridge]

I kinda wanna keep my noir low invest outside of skills so she sacs easier

[gritty ridge]

Tanky ass viper

Ate laplace like it was nothing

[umbral crown]

@keen vapor i do not trust cp pad teams but i would be 3m already

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

The cp pad

[gritty ridge]

The fact that your cp pad team is a semi competent pvp team is upsetting

[sinful berry]

Hmmm...

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

let me check the speed

[gritty ridge]

Looks to be 3rl

2.5 at best

[umbral crown]

3 RL

no badmy team instead that one is noah x maiden biscuit sanis noise

which is also 3 RL

[keen vapor]

You ain't gapping me with that

[umbral crown]

give me 481 boost and i would

[gritty ridge]

Please echo, please put a second p

[umbral crown]

pp

[gritty ridge]

Gaping and gapping are 2 very very different things

[umbral crown]

whats the meaning of the first

[gritty ridge]

[umbral crown]

[gritty ridge]

Look it up

[umbral crown]

[gritty ridge]

And put it in the context of doing it to someone

[keen vapor]

But he ain't

[gritty ridge]

[keen vapor]

Thanks for the correction still

[umbral crown]

like the song says: i aint there yet

[gritty ridge]

I dont control what you 2 get up to in your free time

[umbral crown]

we just come here to press auto and hope for the best

[gritty ridge]

Im gonna bust

[drifting spear]

Can someone clarify something about champion arena for me? To qualify as top 4, is that only when the season starts or does it need to be before it starts the prep for champion arena opening for that season?

[umbral crown]

combine for kits

[gritty ridge]

No I still need like 3 more blue rl dolls

[umbral crown]

needs to be when it ends, you need to stay at least C4 for the longest time to be there

[gritty ridge]

Position in CA is based on the red coins you earn

[umbral crown]

[gritty ridge]

Rapu, quiry, ada, and anis

And sbs if I ever pull her

[umbral crown]

anis summer, right?

[gritty ridge]

Is is sanis a rl

[haughty mortar]

Can y'all PLEASE help me build a CA roster?

This is my first time qualifying

[drifting spear]

@gritty ridge Does it work like end if season where the coins people have that they haven't cashed out count? I bumped up to Rank 3 and was Rank 2 in points 15 minutes before CA started

[gritty ridge]

Yeah, you dont have to collect your spa if your only goal is ranking

[haughty mortar]

I've always collected at 100%. And collection always happens earlier and earlier (by about 15 mins) every time I do it.

[keen vapor]

Just do it anytime

[haughty mortar]

The game made these teams 4 me. I am certain that they are dogwater.

[glad meteor]

Its sp + 2 auto teams

[haughty mortar]

Any suggestions?

[wicked burrow]

@shell hazel and the def team didn't work sadge

[raven plover]

simply check the rewards you got on mail, what rank shows there, thats what they use

[clever dock]

i see a light! not sure what kind though!

[gritty ridge]

What is bready doing there

[gaunt bane]

since I'm lazy, I might just roll with these SP team and build 2 more for CA. Though team 3 might need changes, it's the CP gap team so it's kind of bad.
Any recommendation for the other 3 teams? box here https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtNjk0NzgzNDI1MDUyOTc3MzU1OA%3D%3D

still got Ada, Blanc & Centi that's kind of worth using in the box.. not much else I think

[clever dock]

combat power padding

• b2 was crust of all people before i slotted in jackal and crown and i wanted to put the foodie besties together

[radiant coral]

Any low level CA builds?

[gritty ridge]

If youre gonna put bready in then use her right

[gritty ridge]

Just put together the best teams you can tbh, investments are partially covered by the fact that cp doesnt matter

[radiant coral]

Dang

My CP is like 800k ~ 900k below compared to others

I guess there’s not much I can do regardless

[swift mango]

Turning out I wasn't sniping successful just dude was suck at solving my def.

@tropic summit P4 Soda worked.

[livid marsh]

You back blood

[swift mango]

I'm still just a brick

[shell hazel]

bah, oh well, you can try out different defences to maybe see what works. if you have relatively built soda she can rng it some lol

did you have the various team attempt videos ready?

[sturdy lichen]

Hello,

I managed to get myself into CA and decided to use these teams. I am honestly a bit concerned for team 5 as I really havent had a chance to use TPoli, but I am hopeful with her kit (she's at phase 2, I need about 11 treasure kits to get her to phase 3 but I doubt that I will reach that level).

I wanted to try and fit in RH, XAnne, TBay, Summer Anis, or Ada (she's not built at all, just 5 5 5, missing some T9M and R15 doll).

Any suggestions? comments? I managed to get 2nd place on the preliminaries and I would like to at least, get past that stage.

I ended up switching Team 1 Emilia and Blanc's positions

[tropic summit]

T1 move your linked unit to p5 (assuming emilia), blanc can stay p4, this will give you better odds against SGs
T2 soda is your only b1 in p2... which is a dangerous spot, especially against mirror with pressure on p2 (typically scar + laplaceT), on the other hand this can get you to stun a noah taunt priority team, but nowdays people shouldn't run that
T3 standard team
T4 standard team
T5 move poli to p3 or p4, reason is she can die pre burst against mirror or heavy p1 pressure. In fact, you want 1 of your own SGs to die pre burst to get you to burst earlier if you're unable to kill 1 unit on enemy side

[sturdy lichen]

This was very helpful insight

[tropic summit]

RNG gaming

[fathom rock]

À soda is also down there

[tropic summit]

here you go, quantum needed on jackal, viper, adeB (any lvl), rest just use w/e recommended

[fathom rock]

HelmT rumani 15cs with cs cube
Centi 20cs
VestiTU 15cs
Rapu 10cs
Rest too low to mention

[shell hazel]

I found my chinnit whale blabla Rail but they hide their nikkes so I can't see how whaley they are 🙁

[tropic summit]

someone being lazy

[tropic summit]

that's common sense

[shell hazel]

but they don't hide their SPA attempts so I can see if they used it without signing in to the game

[warped scaffold]

did SA get reshuffled, saw some new names

[shell hazel]

so partial win

[fathom rock]

Reshuffle was like a few months ago

[shell hazel]

I also found I can see the union raid data of any union as long as I have a single openid for any member

[warped scaffold]

oh okay

[shell hazel]

as well as a general list of openids for participants who were in the raid

[tropic summit]

will take a look around lunch (in 1+hour)

[shell hazel]

this is how I found my whale, I found someone else who was in the union and used that to discover their openid

[upper grove]

Who do I hit here:
Blanc Rosanna Vesti HelmT Rapu
Scar Trina RH Centi Jackal
Cindy Noah Biscuit Noise Rumani
I have most pvp units built for SP except Rosanna

I guess Noah the scar jack and what else do I hit

[shell hazel]

the cindy with a good vesti comp is probably a win

if you have bay built you can just bay the scar

[upper grove]

I have her treasure maxed but no OL, I could do that

[shell hazel]

or even if not really built she still works if you're in cp range

just need a 2RL bay for scar

[upper grove]

is her positioning important?

[shell hazel]

that should work fine

for cindy comp send

ideally noise links here

[upper grove]

yeah I'm still in range with the bay comp

barely but still

[shell hazel]

haha, can OL her a bit maybe as well, if you didn't

chest/boots most value

check jackal link for the vesti team, as long as noise doesn't die you're good but if she links even better

tempura noise

[upper grove]

Noise should be linked

[shell hazel]

that should win, p1 cindy speeds you up a bit but at most 2RL I think, they're 3RL so your noah should still catch cindy nuke

[upper grove]

that vesti comp is out of CP range for me, I go vesti SR15 and check again

[shell hazel]

you can also gamba 2RL scar on it but I find that it's not 100% reliable

[quasi sluice]

Hello what is Indom team mean ?

[swift mango]

nikke are hidden by default though.🫠

[shell hazel]

yeah, some show them I guess

[upper grove]

1 red 2 purple 3 blue for SR10, looking good

[tropic summit]

here's 2 examples

[shell hazel]

for the blanc/vesti team send SG + Ros team and cope it works

blanc is unprotected p1 and the only b2

ros could kill helm/vesti

possible win there if your SG units are well built enough

[upper grove]

okay I'm still out of CP range for the vesti team

[quasi sluice]

thx u

[upper grove]

my bsoda and drake are really big

[shell hazel]

how much cp we need? may need a higher cp instead of say noise then

though noise gives nice chonky hp buff, and rapu keeps you spinning

[upper grove]

I'm at 658k cp and need 670k. my vesti has super bad initial rolls and I don't want to use rocks rn with anni coming

I wouldn't mind sticking at ch 3 but ch 5 is hitting me then

[shell hazel]

see who we can swap in for noise then, do you have someone who is b1 but just makes up the cp?

[upper grove]

siren easily

[shell hazel]

yeah send that, she'll link too

can you record?

🍿

[upper grove]

sec

I would win easily with vesti team and cp gap if I'd open my boxes

guy is 434 while I'm 416

[shell hazel]

it's 5 levels I guess

• cp jump

that would put you back in range, could be worth for the sake of a few lost cd from new chapters

and it better secures your next def with the extra cp also

[upper grove]

I lost

[shell hazel]

I'm 405 and can crate to 412 so not enough to make the jump myself atm, for me probably better to wait for the new chapters should be well timed for 421 jump

did you have a recording?

[upper grove]

yeah too big to upload on discord

[shell hazel]

upload to youtube then download it again or just link the youtube one

[upper grove]

sec

[shell hazel]

youtube will encode it smaller

[wicked burrow]

I pinged you before, if can't find it in the notifications I'll resend them

[shell hazel]

oh i'll check back sec

[strange linden]

Using Scarlet lb0 without jackal is risky? I want to use her for Vesti but my scarlet has 0 dupe

[shell hazel]

oh god the siren version destroyed them lol

yeah that is a good counter to that team, looks reliable

the RH one with her in p4 was weird, she killed Siren then target switched back to Noah so got stuck, if she cut through rapu etc in reverse it would have won I think

[upper grove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6NhqLurSF0

[shell hazel]

the cindy clutch wasn't totally surprising, it's basically their cindy bursts then your cindy bursts, and because you're later you win, there is a bit more RNG on this than the siren ver though

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/believe-motivation-ted-lasso-jason-sudeikis-trendizisst-gif-3529704266728728998

[nimble swan]

No problem if you have 4x atk

[shell hazel]

think we'd win but we're still too fast. should have yolo'd SG ros comp into blanc one think you could have won that

[nimble swan]

Ah you mean being fragile?

[upper grove]

so just put in all the SG bsoda tdrake and who else? my CA SG comp is definitely CP gapped, and I have no ros

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel any new cook

[shell hazel]

against the blanc comp? highest cp with 4SG + ros, you may not even need to b2

[strange linden]

Yeah, I also only have 2x (low) stats attack

[shell hazel]

you were 2RL due to cindy p1 and I guess your noah ran out sooner

your rapi is pretty stacked right? we could indom rapi it

[upper grove]

can this work even without built ros?

0 OL, I could go SR5

[shell hazel]

if it's too far to reach cp wise then don't worry too much I think

[upper grove]

I could try this, still in range

[shell hazel]

you can go down as far as 658K cp

and still be in range, noah not much use here I think

[upper grove]

ros is 650k

if I swap her in for noah

[shell hazel]

try this for the cindy team

make sure lapT has less hp than Rapipi

[tropic summit]

more hp*

[shell hazel]

uhh yeah

more hp 😄

[upper grove]

hp cube on lap, no cube on rapi should do it

[shell hazel]

yeah

for the SG one it's a yolo, the bay comp was textbook as I expected

[nimble swan]

I need anti CN whale cook

[upper grove]

biscuit is already in team 2

[shell hazel]

just clone biscuit

😄

anything that is OK cp and doesn't steal link may do here then, such as anchor maid if you have her built

we don't want too much speed, so I'm avoiding using centi or trina etc

[upper grove]

yeah anchor is super big

[hollow lagoon]

Clone biscuit Lel

[shell hazel]

that's fine, your jackal should keep you alive there anyway

can rapi to p2 instead of blanc if your blanc is not that strong

[hollow lagoon]

Time to put ol on bay when I get meth rocks today

Then I’m done investing ca

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/kurumi-tokisaki-date-a-live-clone-laughing-gif-26047802

[shell hazel]

i'm sending some experimental teams this time so I don't recommend copying me

I doubt I'll win with them, just variances on the previous set

[hollow lagoon]

[upper grove]

SG comp with noah worked

lap got indom instead

[nimble swan]

Think big

[hollow lagoon]

Prob can’t afford to spend any gear exp until anni now

[upper grove]

should have gone rapipi P2 but can't test it now

[shell hazel]

Laplace!

it's damage share so it's strange that she got it

assume link was jackal + rapi + lapT

[upper grove]

C4 rapipi C1 Laplace

[hollow lagoon]

Lap prob less invested and took more damage?

[upper grove]

yes HP cube laplace, 0 cube Rapi

[shell hazel]

did you record it?

curious to see

[upper grove]

forgot

[wicked burrow]

Probably, but I'm pretty satisfied with the siren team. Btw was mihara team supposed to work the way it worked on the vid? I mean Cindy solo surviving

[shell hazel]

yeah more or less

[wicked burrow]

I see

[shell hazel]

run the siren one at them a few times after reset then check it's reliably winning but that looked solid

I wonder if maid anchor healed LapT?

I don't know exactly how her heal works

[upper grove]

she doesn't heal at all without bursting or another Aegis squad member

[hollow lagoon]

Her heal is based on her hp percent during/after full burst

[shell hazel]

hmmm then weird, with more hp on LapT it shouldn't be possible for LapT to get it

am glad the yolo SG worked though

[upper grove]

probably core diff

3 cores + equipment, rapipi is 5 5 4 0, lap is 0 0 0 0

[shell hazel]

good to look for such opportunities sometimes where opponent leaves a key piece at p1

yeah could maybe boost LapT a bit but the vigor cube adds a fair bit of hp

[hollow lagoon]

Lapt is still decent in pve, no reason not to invest

[upper grove]

vigor 5 only though, 7.27% hp

honestly I wouldn't care to hit that guy to get ch1 back, I just don't want to go down to ch5

so might have to change defense again

[shell hazel]

you could crate the 421 as well

[hollow lagoon]

I wanna crate but I know I shouldent

such sad

[shell hazel]

well not like anyone is biting at your heels anyway

I'm dealing with at least 2 others who are in range to hit me at all times (same sync or higher)

[upper grove]

I hate my bracket

[tropic summit]

looks like a jungle, everyone's in everyone range

[hollow lagoon]

476 on 2million?

[shell hazel]

416

[hollow lagoon]

Oh

But 484 on 2.8mil is sad

[upper grove]

yeah the ch3 guy hits me, I don't care. but nowadays ch5 also hits us both, ch2 and 4 are basically too hard to touch with their sync whaling

or rather: ch4 has been chilling since forever

[tropic summit]

typical pvp experience

[hollow lagoon]

If I was the 484 I would smack rest of them into submission

[upper grove]

that guy could easily update to cp gap teams but he doesn't

[shell hazel]

funny just hopping 1/3/5 then

[upper grove]

484 has also passed MC so he will get even further ahead with anni

[tropic summit]

ppl with common sense, they don't give a f about silly gamemode

[shell hazel]

well from his pov at least no one can touch them and they get CA + 2.7K gems and don't need to do anything

[hollow lagoon]

Too late @shell hazel baited me into dis shit, now I’m in too deep

[tropic summit]

exactly this, low effort to just easy min/max, even if not optimal

[shell hazel]

hey don't blame me for you bad decisions! :p

[upper grove]

I could also just chill in ch5 and not care about CA

[tropic summit]

i'm more surprised you can even afford caring about it, do you even need the gems

[tropic summit]

ye wouldn't miss out on much, invest check + RNG game mode

[hollow lagoon]

Wouldent be so bad if I didn’t get infected by @umbral belfry stealing my rocks

[shell hazel]

likely you won't be able to win in our brackets anyway unless you hyper invest the pvp

[hollow lagoon]

I only reduce my bracket into fine mist the goal is to atomize them

[shell hazel]

if you raid focus too much no hope

[upper grove]

I'll never do that

only focusing SR/UR atm, and going 5 5 5 0 on all my hyper carry equipment

that's why ros bay etc are still w/o OL

[hollow lagoon]

Hopefully my bracket’s been saving crates for anni, else that 110 sync gap’s gonna become 120

[tropic summit]

wise decision, amen

[shell hazel]

the people who get into top 8 are usually pretty built

you may RNG to top 16/top 8 but actually winning beyond that is tough

[upper grove]

I'll never win and have no intention to do so, I just want the SP gem income

[shell hazel]

I've been pointlessly trading SPA1 and SPA2 with chinnit whale since reshuffle added them into my bracket

they definitely don't need the gems either

[hollow lagoon]

Next reshuffle gonna be interesting

[shell hazel]

I kind of value them, I don't spend for gems so I like having the income

feels like they're slacking more on trying to knock me down lately though, maybe they're getting bored of it

[hollow lagoon]

Ur whale is still 29-7 on a sync 431

[shell hazel]

as I've gotten SPA1 4 times in a row since last reshuffle

[upper grove]

434 is a pull whale with all of EVA max cored, still at 25-3

at least the sync whales are campaign malders, 1 stuck at MC, 1 passed it

[hollow lagoon]

Core max Eva oh lord

I just mlb and I only 1 copied Mari/fire rei

[upper grove]

I assume he also core maxes all pilgrims, cindy and siren as well

[shell hazel]

yeah they're really slacking on campaign yet they sync up quicker than me

[hollow lagoon]

Prob buying dust

[shell hazel]

yes def is

[hollow lagoon]

I’m just buying the cheapest gear exp now days

[shell hazel]

we started same day and I'm ahead in campaign, but they're currently +26 sync

[hollow lagoon]

And the single blue ticket

Dust is…. Kinda tired

[shell hazel]

so yep 100% been buying dust

I noted you had a hell of a lot more skills and dolls maxed than me 😄

[hollow lagoon]

I’m not gated by sync I’m gated by unit quality

[shell hazel]

it looked like you were buying those also?

[hollow lagoon]

I buy skill books yes

But stopped since October ish

[shell hazel]

and doll mats? you had like 30 odd SR-15

[upper grove]

I only buy skins or decent pull packages

[hollow lagoon]

Since I’m now gated by element books

[shell hazel]

to my 25

[hollow lagoon]

My doll luck is exceptional I would have to say

[shell hazel]

has to be more than luck, you played less time than me right?

[upper grove]

I'm lucky with dolls, 24 SR15

but I have mats left for at least 4-5 more

[hollow lagoon]

Many times I literally just purple kit and get super success

On I only have mats for 1

Like 200 blue 100 purple 90 gold kits

Sr-10 my Bsoda

Dis morning

Tis saving till anni time

[shell hazel]

I have 25 SR-15 and mats not really enough for 1 more

[hollow lagoon]

Do u not convert excess blue dolls?

[shell hazel]

I do

[upper grove]

1k+ blue, 400 purple, 200+ gold

I'm coping that anniv units let me go past MC asap

[hollow lagoon]

What ur sync

[upper grove]

416

[hollow lagoon]

What ur Cinderella rolls

And Ein

[upper grove]

I can open to 461 at end of Nov, or hoard all boxes until I hit 461 mid Jan

[shell hazel]

you'd probably appreciate my api shenanigans btw

blabla api to pull all unit details and put them into a table

[upper grove]

that's neat!

cindy is 92 ele 30 atk, ein is dead basically, 10 atk 20 ele

[shell hazel]

I am going to add sum of stats soon

like ATK% etc

[hollow lagoon]

My Cinderella is 60/30 ele/atk, my Ein is 20/30 ele/atk, if ur weaker ur gonna have fun doing it at 481

[shell hazel]

I also worked out if I know your openid I can see all your union scores from the raid

and all related user openids

[upper grove]

[hollow lagoon]

I should fix my Cinderella

But she’s still my best rolled character

So I have no reason to touch her

[upper grove]

if any of the anniv units are the big true dps unit I can cope with them to clear at 461

[hollow lagoon]

Unlikely

True dmg always been gated to do meh damage when not in deficit

[shell hazel]

will be in deficit at 461 though

[hollow lagoon]

So true dmg pilgrim would be derpy

And people Wouldent like derpy units

Especially we literally just had multiple true damage release back to back

[shell hazel]

at least 1 new meta pilgrim per anni and I don't think they screwed that up yet?

crown, cindy, siren etc

[hollow lagoon]

I Wouldent know my account is still not 1 year old

[shell hazel]

well crown was the anni before we started, I imagine we had some good pilgrims for the earlier annis as well

[hollow lagoon]

Doro and redhood

[shell hazel]

I mean yeah, doro has fallen off some, but she still gets use in raids

rest still seem relevant/meta to me

[upper grove]

0.5: OG doro; 1st anniv: RH, 1.5: Crown; 2nd anniv: Cindy Grave; 2.5 Siren Mihara. NY Mod, SBS, Rapipi

[hollow lagoon]

Doro still good to me

[shell hazel]

yeah I mean that list is basically all still good

[hollow lagoon]

I use doro more than liter

[shell hazel]

prob weakest there is grave and doro, but neither are bad

oh and mod

[hollow lagoon]

Mod legit fell off

[shell hazel]

but mod is more than 2 years ago, and she can still work as random off-burst in fire weak I think?

[hollow lagoon]

Man I didn’t even use mod for ziz

[shell hazel]

she's probably the weakest of the list

[hollow lagoon]

Doro still better than grave

Grave has the easier to acquire replacement of bunny ade

That has more general use

Than grave

[shell hazel]

true though you may use both if you have both?

[hollow lagoon]

I do have both

8/8/8 grave still a bit better than 7/7/8ade but not for long

Since I much rather put skill boots Into the fatter general attack damage

[upper grove]

grave is still better than bade with piercers at least

[shell hazel]

wondering if I should burn some rocks to make my noir a bit better

[upper grove]

burst gen increase doesn't matter much with piercers having good burst gen

[hollow lagoon]

Barely, too small to matter, and some piercers don’t do pure pierce damage

Bmilk has distributed, Laplace only pierce when burst

[upper grove]

alice RH bmilk are the only relevant ones and they all pierce for their main dmg source

[hollow lagoon]

B milk has distributed

[upper grove]

bmilk distributed is less than her autos iirc, otherwise we wouldn't need to manual her with quick shots

[hollow lagoon]

The proc is the good fun part cus it’s my tetra aoe now

[hollow lagoon]

lol I tried to manual her with faster shots I don’t really do more damage so I just gib up and let her do her thing

Idk how people click that fast

[upper grove]

forged by fire with alice mald

[shell hazel]

so much I want to build so few resources 🙁

[upper grove]

I did all of normal campaign with alice my fingers are used to it

[hollow lagoon]

U can’t convince me, a whale, to break my finger and develop muscle memory to click that shit

[upper grove]

I'm a whale and I mald

[hollow lagoon]

I’m a whale and I use better units

Oh Alice u need manual to be good? Ur forgotten

Legit haven’t touched her since Bmilk came since Bmilk does better when auto

[upper grove]

by the time rapipi released I still used alice sbs, then I finished normal campaign

[hollow lagoon]

By the time rapi released I was sync 200 ish?

[upper grove]

I was at behemoth back then~ 261+

[shell hazel]

I don't love using my Alice either though for now she still gets me through Tetra tower stuff OK

[hollow lagoon]

When I was doing normal chapters, I waited for blue stage 1 of the chapter then I go through the whole thing

[upper grove]

alice is still my 2nd highest cp unit after sbs

[shell hazel]

I find I don't do that much damage with her, I don't really want heavy manual units either

[upper grove]

I malded all normal chapters asap

[hollow lagoon]

Now I have no reason to wait at normal chapters because they are blue by default

[upper grove]

yeah I miss malding normal chapters a bit

[shell hazel]

I think they're basically going to be blue even for me lol

[hollow lagoon]

I don’t I just touch behemoth once in a while

[shell hazel]

think I outscaled all new normals now

though when we had like 34? come out I wasn't

[hollow lagoon]

Behemoth is has like 12-13 days left to live

[shell hazel]

I kind of miss having to mald a bit on those as well, they're too easy now, hard mode malding is MC waiting room for me pretty soon

[hollow lagoon]

MC is not a hard boss

It’s just damage check

[shell hazel]

but you need power to beat it

[hollow lagoon]

I can fiddle with slipper way before I have the damage to kill it

I was cracking slippers at 461 range but needed 481 to kill it

[upper grove]

just killing slipper is easy if you focus all on slipper, it's the mix of balancing slipper + overall dmg imo

[shell hazel]

but 461 or 481 to do it are currently far away for me

[hollow lagoon]

Idk what u want me to balance

[shell hazel]

time to build Ada

[upper grove]

I could just slot in Eunwha if I really want to hyper focus slipper, but otherwise I lack too much dmg with the missing mmast s

[hollow lagoon]

I didn’t use mast

Sanis better

[upper grove]

at 481 you don't really need to

my sanis is 2 ele 1 atk, both low rolls, not gonna bother with fixing her

[hollow lagoon]

Irreverent

She’s there for skill 1

U don’t actually use her for damage

Think Mmast but for electric

Reload speed and attack up without randomly getting stunned and provide side dps

[upper grove]

mmast has bigger atk buff starting from 2 stack burst though

reload speed is whatever with crown

there's a reason why liter mmast is the meta for MC at 461

[hollow lagoon]

Mmast’s atk is not stacked…

Unless u burst her

[upper grove]

why? both sanis and mmast are supports. sanis is 55% atk or so, mmast is 20% crit, 35% caster's atk during drunk (basically always after 1st burst) + 20% for each stack during her own burst

if you go hyper carry you burst with +40% atk or +60% atk, higher than sanis. you sac sanis personal dmg for sure

[hollow lagoon]

Fair I just rather burst crown

So I don’t get sniped by the random unpredictable laser

[upper grove]

oh yeah that's a factor for sure, malding with cover

[hollow lagoon]

I malded that cover enough by this point, and then by 474 I started to be able to crack slippers with Rouge b1 instead of rapi b1 and rouge net me more damage

When that happened combined with crown I no longer needed to mald cover

Then it was a matter of dps checking which lasted till 481

7/7/9 sanis it was

[upper grove]

so it was cindy rouge sanis crown x?

[hollow lagoon]

X is Ein

Cindy rouge Ein Sanis Crown

[rich ledge]

oo u guys are still discussing mirror container since yesterday

[hollow lagoon]

Cuz that boss is like the friendly neighbor

Easy boss easy mechanics just gates you for a while

[upper grove]

I see, yeah sanis not bursting there so her personal dmg still meh. mmast more malding but higher dps than sanis I think. not that it matters now, you cleared it

[hollow lagoon]

Honestly when rouge and crown on the field it’s not even threatening damage wise

It’s just dps check

Behemoth on the other hand

Lllllllelllelelelelelelelelelel

Where will the machine gun target this time, you know it’s coming but which unit will u cover

[upper grove]

The fun part

[mystic rain]

doesnt it target highest atk

[hollow lagoon]

it does

so i'm at a point where i can basically manpulilate it to crown or cindy or helm

but some times it targets my rapi

800 bars of hp left from bursting mast sometimes vs 900 ish from not bursting mast at all

i mean its a improvement but it dosnt change the fact i need to either roll cindy better or just break into 501 sync

[umbral crown]

[brazen salmon]

？

[umbral belfry]

wanted that bad

for the same gem rewards

[slate falcon]

Bro doesn’t just wanna be #2 he wanna send a message, as for what that message is idk🫠

[umbral belfry]

LMAO 😭

I recommend checking out the pins in this channel for basic help on pvp alongside reading prydwen's pvp guide. you're always welcome to ask any questions you have in here too

[shell hazel]

ummm lol

[haughty mortar]

This is what was recommended to me by the team builders. Any possible improvements?#team-building message

[umbral belfry]

every team but t1 I would say 😭

I can't cook anything bc I have to run to work, but ideally you'd want

2rl scar
sg rosa (if your rosa isn't built, then tove is acceptable in a safe position or do full sg)
noise noah (+ bisc) cindy or noise noah vesti
indom comp (many options but most common one is with vesti)
nero stall if invested

but until you show your box we can't cook for u

okay i poof for work

[haughty mortar]

Got no Cindy.

@umbral belfry

[keen vapor]

Noise Noah SBS

@haughty mortar

[haughty mortar]

@keen vapor

[keen vapor]

[haughty mortar]

[keen vapor]

So, what do you think

[haughty mortar]

Ummm not sure? What am I to think?

Think of me as a PVP toddler. Whatever uncle Echo says I will accept

[crystal flicker]

Echo is an Uncle

[haughty mortar]

Auntie? I am not sure

[crystal flicker]

Unc Echo and Lil' Sort

[shell hazel]

@keen vapor

@haughty mortar

[haughty mortar]

[shell hazel]

[fathom sparrow]

I tried to check the pins and didn't see this addressed anywhere, so sorry if this is a dumb quesiton.

In Rookie arena, how do you structure your attack team? do you just use your highest CP PvE team or your arena defense team?

[haughty mortar]

That is at the very beginning since you most likely have not invested in PVP nikke. But later on, you gotta start investing.

[keen vapor]

You use(invested as sorter said) counter team

What has the right way to attack and outlive the target

[fathom sparrow]

My defense team is currently Noise - Noah - Cindy - Biscuit - Jackal.

Just not sure if I should attack with that or not

[keen vapor]

Maybe, maybe not
Can't know without a target in mind

[shell hazel]

it will beat some teams, it may lose to others, there isn't a team that will win all matches

[tropic summit]

that's a generic purpose team with anti nuke and biscuit locked, is partially siren resistant and has anti nuke, while having your own nuke
assuming noise is linked and potentially taunt priority, it doables down as promotable to 2RL and is fully siren resistant

like every other team, it has its own weakness, but is a strong standalone team

keep in mind it is on the slower side and the feed required to reach 2RL is pretty high

and this assumes noise is linked and taunt priority

else it's just waiting to get 2RL'ed scar-nuked

[tropic summit]

taking a look now

[tropic summit]

what's your quantum cube lvl on this acc?

[fathom rock]

7 tempering and quantum
5 vigor and adjuntant

[shell hazel]

@oblique gyro I can only fight you and the other two shown for now, no matter how much I reset it doesn't show anyone else

so I sent a team to lose on purpose against you, then I sent in soda

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EdIPromQcQM

[fathom rock]

Mf out here losing on purpose

[covert lintel]

Do mine too

[shell hazel]

I don't like to spam attacks on the same people even for rookie I usually just do 1 try per opponent 😛

so I figure if I only have 3 opponents I'll just do a loss and then a win 😄

[tropic summit]

where box

[dim escarp]

[shell hazel]

[dim escarp]

[shell hazel]

I think I'm just too far ahead of everyone

[dim escarp]

indeed

[shell hazel]

that dude in 3rd is proper campaign malding though

they beat CC 31 hard at 401 😮

[dim escarp]

speaking of campaign, I did beat MC sync 468

[shell hazel]

same guy as in 3rd, but lower power than the majority here lol

[dim escarp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1316443287946657802/1413836196118921256/nk-image-edit-bounce-1kwjbb7d.gif

[shell hazel]

oh very nice! 😄 waiting room exit

[dim escarp]

yup that was faster that I though

still on my pve invest, and ngl I don't even know if I'll come back invest for CA since I'm confortably sit in top2 in sp arena

[shell hazel]

will be a while before I get there

I don't think I'll clear this CC 31H boss until 421, reasonably I can get there in the next month

[dim escarp]

you are sync 400 soon right ?

[shell hazel]

beyond - plus ultra

405 (crates for about 412 stored)

[dim escarp]

with a good cinderella you can honestly, at least I did

[shell hazel]

I need more cp is the issue

I can see that the guy who beat it in my image above has much stronger rapi/cindy than me

[dim escarp]

oh yeah

[shell hazel]

my rapi needs more rocks spent on rolling stuff, it's just if I can spare + get lucky on rolls etc

[dim escarp]

she need more

[shell hazel]

yeah 🙂

you'll like this as well I think, using the blabla api to pull unit details

[dim escarp]

cinderella is indeed clean

and yeah rapi def need ele

[shell hazel]

yeah

[dim escarp]

that's very clean stuff

[shell hazel]

yeah I think this will be useful

GS = gearscore btw it's a sum of all phases on all overloads

max is 180 (3 x black lines on all 4 pieces)

[dim escarp]

I see

[tropic summit]

your lack of invested rosanna was disgusting, but still came out of the oven somewat decent

[shell hazel]

my rapi, I need to 12/12 her basically long term, so two pieces need full rolling

crit dmg on l1 can be rolled to ele but costly

[fathom rock]

That trina spawned outta nowhere

[dim escarp]

damn yeah gl for these 2 cursed parts

[fathom rock]

4 ele, 2+ ammo and whatever you get atk
Way cheaper and pretty close preformance

[tropic summit]

oh trina is just on your main?

[fathom rock]

I have 2 acc :
Scar but no trina
Trina but no scar

[shell hazel]

I figure I'll at least chase the line 3 good roll

even if I settle on line 3 + line 1 is fine for now

[shell hazel]

just merge em 😛

[fathom rock]

Teach me how

[crystal flicker]

We all know

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-peter-griffin-credit-card-debt-credit-card-debt-gif-27305263

[shell hazel]

[covert lintel]

that's why you don't need to play 2 or more acc

[tropic summit]

your lack of trina is gonna nerf 2 teams down but you do what you gotta do

[fathom rock]

But then I don't get to play pvp

[fathom rock]

thanks tho

[tropic summit]

revised version trina-less, T1 and T5 took a pretty bad hit

T2 T3 and T4 remain competitive enough

T1 and T5 kinda copium but still could pull their weight

[fathom rock]

If I win league it's a miracle

Noir out for xmaid?

Since it is an available option

[glad meteor]

I scrolled up and many 🫃

[tropic summit]

oh ye xmaiden opened up, can sub viper, noir goes to SG team and xmaiden to nero/moran team

[shell hazel]

that took me 18 rocks

I got crit damage line 3 like 4 times

[glad meteor]

Hippos op

[shell hazel]

trading ammo for ele for now (I got 2 other ammo rolls)

[glad meteor]

Scar?

[shell hazel]

no it's rapi

[fathom rock]

Still pog

[glad meteor]

Do overcock

[shell hazel]

yeah the crit rate not doing much I guess eventually I'll roll it to ammo

[fathom rock]

Did you?

[glad meteor]

Only to 25

Deadge

[fathom rock]

Inf title doko

[glad meteor]

[shell hazel]

I guess I'll have to leave it there for now or I can try the ammo, thing is I'll need to lock that ele probably with rocks, I don't have many locks left

it's 50 locks and 3 rocks per roll, I have 28 rocks and 330 locks left

so I can try and roll the ammo 6 times then I'm out of temp locks basically

[fathom rock]

Just get ele on boot and you good

[shell hazel]

similar concept ofc

[fathom rock]

All you need

[shell hazel]

though I suppose I could perm lock both of those lines as they're blue/black

[fathom rock]

Yea you can

[shell hazel]

I run out of temp locks first usually so saving those for other rolls has value

also if I roll ele and it's low roll value I'd need to reset attributes

[fathom rock]

That leaves you with 7 tries
You can get an extra try if you spend 240 lock and only lock 1 line with rock but that's a lot

[shell hazel]

so having locks in place for the other two even if it costs rocks should be fine

if I roll ele and it's like 10% I'd need to reset - so I don't want to undo my blue/black lines

[fathom rock]

You'll just need 2 rerolls

[shell hazel]

I can do 7 tries

nope 7 fails lol

hit rate, cs etc

how to spend 28 rocks instantly for not much 😄

still that one is just a matter of putting more rocks into it when I get the chance

probably back to saving for anni units for now, will have to come back to this

[covert lintel]

Where's mine

[tropic summit]

when i've time, still in the office

[glad meteor]

:forgwork:

[keen vapor]

Perfect for Grave

[keen vapor]

Can't

[shell hazel]

my vesti rolls were good, I think I spent less rocks on her and have better general lines, guess it's just rng karma lol

still rapi worth long term maxing a bit

I'll probably wind up settle on 11/12 lines, don't think it's worth malding the last piece which is just atk/ele really, but I'll try to perfect the stats on the others

2 x line 1's to get

@tropic summit note I added the stat sum thing we spoke about
#pvp-arena message

[tropic summit]

ye that's great, makes it very useful on the units where atk% and CS% matters

[shell hazel]

yeah, should find it handy for myself as well, but will be in rock spending hell for a while with rapi and the new units 😄

[sinful vessel]

hi can anyone help me form teams for sp arena? here are my nikkes:

[keen vapor]

This and auto twice for now
I recc synching Anis, and have in mind to overload Biscuit in the future

[keen vapor]

No Drake Treasure yet?

[empty cedar]

I'm not certain about it so was wondering if someone knows that if the 25% charge speed is only counting on ol gear and holding a cube to reach 25% or it also counts you have skill 1 max out to get the charge speed increase of 13 percent

[keen vapor]

That's right, OL+cube only

Base (blue book) is maxed skill already

[sinful vessel]

nope am a new player, started ade banner. also what does RL mean?

[empty cedar]

That's crazy 😆 you need like 3 black black line and only a 12 or above with the cube

[keen vapor]

Tbh any Emilia owner will have either have the resources or already invested her Emilia at this point in time

[keen vapor]

We measure team speed in rocket launcher shots

[keen vapor]

Helm missing a 25% option as well

[sinful vessel]

okay thanks how bout the other 2 teams?

[keen vapor]

Something like this might be your second team if properly invested

Something key is Summer Anis with burst at level 9.... Also maxed skill 1

Third, just auto not enough units

[sinful vessel]

tysm for this 💯

[keen vapor]

-# Oh right
You're welcome
-# I always forget my manners