pvp-arena

[umbral crown]

Im.feeling the boost, nero team.gonna be close to 1m

If lucky 2.9 with boost @keen vapor

[covert lintel]

Attack and block

[umbral crown]

I do not block owo

[gritty ridge]

I left and rejoined the server

[umbral crown]

[covert lintel]

Like my c2
I think he blocked me in blabla

[umbral crown]

Thought you would be green

[umbral crown]

[gritty ridge]

Nah, it saves your xp

[umbral crown]

[gritty ridge]

Nobody noticed i left the server tho

Fake friends

[umbral crown]

blood would have noticed it, he checks profiles

[gritty ridge]

Nuh uh, blood hates me

[umbral crown]

always notices when i change my username when my display name stays the same

[hidden wind]

Anyone know how to beat Moran-Noah-TacticalVesti-Biscuit-Helm?

[gritty ridge]

Rosana

[hidden wind]

kk I'll give it a shot

[umbral crown]

but is your rosanna invested?

[hidden wind]

How invested does she have to be?

[umbral crown]

7/10/10 40 atk from OL and doll as highest as you can

[hidden wind]

40 atk?

[umbral crown]

40% atk from OL

[hidden wind]

ah

[umbral crown]

yeah

[hidden wind]

dang it

[umbral crown]

or go with Blanc VestiTU HelmT biscuit jackal

if its rookie of course

[hidden wind]

I'll try that too

[hidden wind]

that worked, thank you!

I gotta work on getting OL lines for Rosanna though >.>

[umbral crown]

nice

[raven plover]

blocking in blabla wtf diabolical

[gritty ridge]

I blocked you on whatsapp

[swift mango]

I don't even know if my CN and JPN name guys had blabla

https://tenor.com/view/goddess-of-victory-nikke-doro-meme-knife-gif-13655503135447721047

[uncut merlin]

why do i keep losing ? do i need to build up my biscuit & jackal ?

[glad meteor]

Deficit + siren could stun noah

[gritty ridge]

Youre not using jackal at all there

[mystic rain]

cindy not killing them?

then its deficit

[jagged mesa]

yeah your jackal is likely not in use at all here

[raven plover]

I wont bother checking either

[jagged mesa]

in p5, likely linked to cindy helm, means none of the targets being hit are linked to jackal

plus siren is probably stunning your noah cuz she's in p1

[gritty ridge]

No

He clearly has 28% cs

[jagged mesa]

just built diff, i dont belong in the same realm of thinking

[north brook]

Being up 30 lvls and down that much cp is crazy, are they not even overloaded

[jagged mesa]

idk how much dolls affect cp at that synchro but 2 missing dolls entirely and sr5 noah

[gritty ridge]

Dolls aren't a big dif for cp

I have r15 units that are way higher cp than some of my sr15

[mystic rain]

bro how

[jagged mesa]

i mean if theres a significant OL difference sure

but also, no doll AT ALL is a pretty big diff from SR15

[gritty ridge]

Look at blanc and alice

Dont look at dolla

[umbral crown]

[gritty ridge]

I said dont look

[umbral crown]

[gritty ridge]

Thats it, im confiscating your nero

[keen vapor]

Ouch

[jagged mesa]

i heard the dave chappelle "AH" in my head when i saw this

[wicked burrow]

Morning guys, is there a way to beat the guy? Also maybe somehow improve the def team cuz he wins against it as well

[hybrid fox]

do I win this? idk abt vesti

[umbral crown]

hmm

[north brook]

prob not enough healing for nero to be immune fast enough, but depends if/what u wipe with scar burst

[keen vapor]

Seems slow enough but your Scarlet not doll maxed so she can't tank at her best

[keen vapor]

Laplace doesn't makes it better tbh

[nimble swan]

How much atk does your scar have?

[wicked burrow]

Sbs or default one?

[nimble swan]

The one on the pic, drunk Scarlet

[wicked burrow]

You prb pinged the wrong guy cuz I don't have scar on the pics

[nimble swan]

Shit, yea I realized

Sorry man

[wicked burrow]

It's okay

[nimble swan]

How much atk does your Scar have here?

[keen vapor]

Vesti
Or yes, Scarlet drunk

[nimble swan]

Scar rh trina wipe

[keen vapor]

Wrong order

[wicked burrow]

Vesti is bad, if scarlet do I just put her here instead of Cindy?

Prob want Trina as well

[nimble swan]

Literal order is scar trina rh cliprl jackal

[keen vapor]

That ANRu

[wicked burrow]

Okay let's see

[nimble swan]

You use scar trina rh cliprl/helm jackal

[keen vapor]

With a single image of your units this is the best I can do

[keen vapor]

Only hit battle if you're sure Scarlet is linked with jackal

[hybrid fox]

45.13\

so do I win

[wicked burrow]

She's not I checked

[nimble swan]

Use 2RL cindy then

[keen vapor]

Put tempering on first two units and try dunno about other two teams

[keen vapor]

Then don't use Laplace

Nor helm

[keen vapor]

Nuh uh, just use centi

[hybrid fox]

1st team win 3rd team prob lose

[nimble swan]

Yeah It’s just i couldn’t see her

[hybrid fox]

wait 3rd team (can) win

[keen vapor]

Where's the pvp focus on this

[wicked burrow]

Thanks guys

[hybrid fox]

@umbral crown

[keen vapor]

Scarlet always being the answer

[hybrid fox]

scraping by

[wicked burrow]

Any ideas about def then?

[keen vapor]

Good lord, tempering clutch

[wicked burrow]

The same team prob won't work?

[hybrid fox]

I have always used tempering on scar/trina

[keen vapor]

I'll be honest with you, I have bad defense on purpose
-# Rookie

[wicked burrow]

Why

[nimble swan]

To not give them ideas, at least i do that

Some people in my sp arena

[keen vapor]

So they don't test the defenses I try on SP

[nimble swan]

They either test or insta copy my teams

[hybrid fox]

my spvp and rookie are very different anyway

nor do I care much abt rookie

noise noah cindy/sanis helm jackal

[nimble swan]

They copied the mid team too though

[hybrid fox]

u are probably not using this in spvp anymore

[wicked burrow]

Oh, interesting

[hybrid fox]

in spvp?
GOATED strategy

[nimble swan]

Both

[hybrid fox]

rookie meh
but if they do that in spvp kek

[umbral crown]

you won but almost do not live to say it

[hybrid fox]

yah

[nimble swan]

In theory which scar team should work best against nero stall?
I thought it’s the rh one up until recently

But somehow my team lost to nero last ca, and i’m serially losing bets on soda rng

[rotund karma]

Is this team okay? I dont have rumani,rosana,maiden, scar

[nimble swan]

It’s hard to say/compare without context.
Knowing the units you have, your rank in sp arena, (what teams maybe your opponents have etc)
At your synchro I couldn’t have fit in top 4 with these teams for example (but would have been enough to stay in challenger/top diamond probably)

I can’t see rumani, trina

[rotund karma]

I dont have both and I always fight scar team and emilia

[mystic rain]

sycn 279 and ur fighting vs emilia?

[nimble swan]

Emilia? Did you take a longer break from Nikke?

[mystic rain]

bruh are u returning player

cuz if u are then that account is bricked for pvp

like omega bricked

[nimble swan]

That’s about right

[fossil ibex]

hi im not that great in pvp arenas and mostly mimic what others doing while trying to figure out how certain teams work. so how in the world do i counter this team? havent try the team on the screen was just thinking

[jagged mesa]

just to double check, 4.63% cs rounds to 5% right?

[nimble swan]

Mathematically yes lol, but I thought you needed exact values to reach breakpoints

[jagged mesa]

i mean for pvp breakpoints specifically

[nimble swan]

That team wins almost against anything.
I would use rapi indom, but you need to make sure she can shoot for 10s without reloading

[jagged mesa]

ok yep nikke.work tells me yes

[nimble swan]

What beakpoint did you reach with how much CS exactly?
You had 4.63 altogether?

[fossil ibex]

No wonder hes top 1 in champion by long shot

[jagged mesa]

a single 4.63 roll

[nimble swan]

And that made you burst a few frames faster?

[fossil ibex]

Maaan, not feeling experimental, thanks anyway
But will i have a chance with a same team?

[nimble swan]

I would calculate you if I could reach my pc. Can’t use nikke.work on phone

[fossil ibex]

No worries bro

[nimble swan]

Mirror will depend on vesti cs and ammo

[jagged mesa]

it was for vesti to land her 4th rocket before certain events

i would double check to remember what i was talking about specifically but i already closed nikke.work

[nimble swan]

[north brook]

5% vesti lets her hit before burst norm can charge

Also good for sync

And its not so fast that her 1st hit hits into scar invuln with trina

[nimble swan]

I hope they fix the sync bug next patch..

[hollow lagoon]

eah i have 7.79 cs on vesti

mmm whatever

[simple slate]

i have ada mlb rn, would adding her or creating a team around her improve my pvp?

[uncut merlin]

pretty much... i didnt know i needed to actually invest in their skills & gears tbh

[shell hazel]

I don't think sending unbuilt units into any of the game modes works well, this isn't an exception

[fair pivot]

Is it safe to skip Ada or will I be pvp bricked

[shell hazel]

I can't see myself using her in pvp really and that includes CA with 5 teams

[fair pivot]

Nice, I'll keep saving for anni then

[shell hazel]

I got a copy still tbh but it's mainly for collection, maybe I'll build her at some point

she can have a niche pvp use case maybe but not like we lack other options entirely

[dim sapphire]

ada pretty pog in electric campaign

[wind kelp]

Just fyi @wicked horizon , if you ask nicely, i could give you the third spot. Although i do have to get this knife out of my back first

If next season is the same layout, just let me keep the 3rd for a week in peace, then you can take it and i'll keep the bunnyhoppers t bay on 5th. Both get top 4. Win win

[wicked horizon]

Mom said it's my turn to have 3rd place.

[raven plover]

[wind kelp]

Works just fine, just keep an eye on scores so we both get to top 4th and it's gold. Not too worried on the other 5th hoppers, i dealt with them for ages 😄

I might actually take 4th when you take 3rd next time, that'd mean the 5-6 spots are the afk ones, nice lil whale wall.

[wind kelp]

Oh btw folks, i finished up Absolute tactical to OL(dolls have some work still), just wondering if they have a working teamcomp in PVP. Mostly did it for pve reasons, but if there's some fun to be had and all.

[stuck pike]

uvesti legit, maybe you could try sneak in a ueunwha as a b2 nuke, maybe. uemma is not viable tbh.

[gaunt bane]

any idea why https://nikke.work/ has no Naga?

oh nvm part of rarely used character

[wind kelp]

Yeah, i kinda figured UEm wouldn't work that well. Ah well, the team works in pve real well, and having extra raid comps never hurts 😄

[jagged mesa]

sometimes full absolute can work

potentially nuke their half their team before 2rl

[umbral belfry]

only real team for them from what I see is trio + emi + lapT

so without emi i wouldn't bother running

[jagged mesa]

emi where

[umbral belfry]

imagine having emi

[jagged mesa]

actually i run that on my gf's account (baby ~210 synchro brackets) and it works quite well there

[umbral belfry]

[jagged mesa]

absolute i mean, since she started with that team

so she's not totally cp gapped on absolute, and it's actually working out

[umbral belfry]

ask your gf if i can borrow her imaginary emi

I'll bring her back

[jagged mesa]

oh i meant just absolute, no emi

[umbral belfry]

that's why I said imaginary

[jagged mesa]

o me dum

[umbral belfry]

LOL

dw ill borrow yours too

[jagged mesa]

whats with vesti's hit timing on nikke.work

actually why does everything look off

my nikke.work is nikke.notwork rn

[stuck pike]

you can just use the google calc, you should already know the burst, lm, and rosanna timings anyways

[jagged mesa]

im a pvp tourist now

[umbral belfry]

[jagged mesa]

i have nothing i can even interact with in pvp for the past several months

since last shuffle

[umbral belfry]

dw ash ill see you soon

[stuck pike]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11KWYeyvef91A-vfFuqglJJ8-OhR90TcKFVpJ6Ny_5h4/edit?gid=1990278246#gid=1990278246

[jagged mesa]

actually what i really wanted to check was eunhwa burst hit timing

[stuck pike]

it has a 0.3s base charge time

[jagged mesa]

the only person i even have the option of attacking since shuffle is folian and i cant even test on him because i die in 0.000000000001s 😭

[umbral belfry]

the struggle of being cp gapped

[jagged mesa]

yeah but there's animation time to consider too since she swaps weapon i believe

[umbral belfry]

@wet crystal bullying

[quartz canopy]

is it better to buy consoles for recycle room for pvp or just buy the new mold? I usually buy the console if it's on sale and not "RE-energy" but don't know if it's the right move. I feel like the chances of getting a copy of a good nikke isn't worth it

[stuck pike]

new mold by far

[jagged mesa]

i think the mold is the only thing that was ever worth buying

[umbral belfry]

before new mold I always bought discounted red consoles. but now with new mold I only buy that

[wind kelp]

looks at full treasure LapT and Emi that's been there since i started in re:z Hmmmmmm 😄

[umbral belfry]

[quartz canopy]

are consoles that bad

[umbral belfry]

you can run it however i have no clue how invested they have to be

[wind kelp]

I'll throw them in one team in League for the hell of it, should show some data 😄

[stuck pike]

kinda always were. you just get your fill of em off the events, but ever since they added the conversion shop, that too.

[umbral belfry]

it's just that new molds offer much more

[jagged mesa]

i still wanna build lapT but if it's any indication of my doll luck... my 281 alt has more SR15 than my 343 main and more doll kits still

so thats gonna have to wait until god knows when

[umbral belfry]

my beloved

[jagged mesa]

with anni and new years and xmas coming up

[umbral belfry]

even moreso now with her buff

[jagged mesa]

also this

[umbral belfry]

[jagged mesa]

what the,

no pog guys thats not pog

thats 200 blue kits for R4

[umbral belfry]

oh all I saw was the kits LMAO

[wind kelp]

Yeah same, want those kits 😄

[ionic rose]

I dont even use nikke.work graphs confuse my brain

[umbral belfry]

[wind kelp]

But my TEmma is the same, 150 blue kits for R 6 now.

[jagged mesa]

oh those kits are gone now, this pic is from a month ago or so

the r4 threw a wrench in my plans

[umbral belfry]

you coulda saved for anni

[ionic rose]

Gimme some i have 0 of each

[wind kelp]

Meanwhile my TEunhwa got to SR10 with 20 purple. Because, reasons 😄

[ionic rose]

[jagged mesa]

i still have some purples and most of the golds, but my blues are gone... i wanted to R15 my pvp units
ALL of my pvp batteries are still R0

[umbral belfry]

you are a fake pvp goon

[jagged mesa]

im pvp tourist

[umbral belfry]

boooooo

[jagged mesa]

my visa got revoked

[jagged mesa]

also what buff

[umbral belfry]

she has better burst gen now. better than xmaid

forever

[jagged mesa]

buff via bugfix or something?

or literal specific buff to her

[umbral belfry]

I don't remember if it's a bug fix, but you can read it in notices. she was included with others but hers is the most noticeable one

[ionic rose]

Yeah Tlaplace was right below clip shotguns now shes a clip RL

[jagged mesa]

i must've missed it

[umbral belfry]

[jagged mesa]

shes clip RL level?!

[umbral belfry]

you love to see it

[ionic rose]

[jagged mesa]

fudge

i hope anniversary units are TRASH so i can build her

[umbral belfry]

considering how good the past anni units have been

[leaden canyon]

no she's basically clip sg level but just a little under

[jagged mesa]

jk what anniversary units

[stuck pike]

I just went into the shooting range (random b1, UEunwha, Elegg), there's not even a noticeable animation for it. It's not instant, but it's hairs of a second even mid charge of a regular attack. Like I said earlier, you could definitely sneak it in as a B2 nuke, though not my cup of tea. I'll still stick to only using Uvesti.

[ionic rose]

Ur trolling bro

[jagged mesa]

oh well i dont have eunhwa for my own accounts anyways

o wow she really did move up

proud of my little hero

[umbral belfry]

I'm not 100% sure if lap is clip RL now to be fair. if you go to work and put only 1 clip RL, then LapT, then clipSG, the ranges are clipRL > LapT > ClipSG

[jagged mesa]

yknow what, my crownless and cindyless account is so bricked for pve that i might as well build laplace and transition to pvp main until i get crown

even though cindyless also hurts for pvp

[umbral belfry]

so her burst gen is very very good now, just not clip

[stuck pike]

your missilis tower stonks will go up, assuming you have ein at least

[umbral belfry]

but still being right below is great

[jagged mesa]

that account was also einless until like 2 weeks ago, imagine me being so desperate at MC that i ended up building scar trina for campaign

[leaden canyon]

lapT burst gen is not clip rl level

[stuck pike]

Scar Trina can work at a little deficit against MC, but barely.

[umbral belfry]

right in the middle of clip rl and clip sg

[jagged mesa]

i had to though to progress campaign, i got sick of waiting

crownless cindyless einless, i had no options left

[raven plover]

we get clip pvp unit next banner trust

[stuck pike]

probably not a viable option for hard MC unless you wait for a levi equivalent sync right now.

[jagged mesa]

yeah it wasnt but it was my only option 😭

[umbral belfry]

[stuck pike]

Ada can sneak into a Uvesti comp as a buffer. maybe a stall comp against a jackal comp bcuz of link kill if you wanna actually burst.

Jill i can't see any value

[umbral belfry]

jill in pvp

apparently even in pve jill is

[jagged mesa]

hey trina jill is actually pretty strong

[umbral belfry]

[stuck pike]

mc, unknown armor, to name a few are the main things jill can help with

[umbral belfry]

[jagged mesa]

a bit of elbow grease and its up to like 80-90% cindy damage in shooting range, and that discounts true damage almost entirely

[stuck pike]

Otherwise, she's just a electric STDPS

[umbral belfry]

at least she'll have use in upcoming SR

[jagged mesa]

problem is people ahve scarlet built for pvp or just cuz old hypercarry anyways

to go with trina i mean

[placid bloom]

who building Jill for SR

I rather just not build her

[umbral belfry]

she's just there in my box

forever unbuilt

[jagged mesa]

ill get around to her when i finish my backlog of 40 other units

[placid bloom]

by the time it's Jill's turn there will be better units

[stuck pike]

didnt pull jill, so cant build anyways, im a collecter so im gonna get her pull or mileage, but she wont be built especially if I have to mileage her last day.

[jagged mesa]

watch jill become a wasuka situation

[placid bloom]

if nobody builds Jill then I don't need to either

why work harder, just let everyone else work less

[jagged mesa]

@umbral belfry @placid bloom pilgrim mold in 7h, today noah comes home

buy 1 spare body from shop to entice, mold to seal the deal

[stuck pike]

did you save your silver mileage up?

[umbral belfry]

anni waiting room ||who was already leaked but I'm not gonna get bannerino||

[jagged mesa]

800 or something

[umbral belfry]

it's time

[stuck pike]

I'd start cranking out Noah dupes asap, best thing to do with silver besides getting a helm dupe if ur impatient

[umbral belfry]

I don't think it's possible to get helm dupes with silver anynore

[jagged mesa]

helm isnt even in shop anymore

and noah is here to stay is she not

[umbral belfry]

so noah time

[jagged mesa]

i was thinking about tove dupes for stats though... or just saving for next batch of treasures

[umbral belfry]

I wonder if they'll update the silver tix dupes list

[placid bloom]

get Privaty dupe to accompany your C1 Doro

[jagged mesa]

you didnt need to go there

now the vibes are wrong

[placid bloom]

dw her treasure will be OP

[jagged mesa]

im going to get dorothy from mold

[placid bloom]

no way they leave her to rot

[jagged mesa]

who, privaty or dorothy

[placid bloom]

Priv

[jagged mesa]

i actually thought privaty was going to get treasure last batch

[umbral belfry]

privaty treasure 5 second team stun

[placid bloom]

and by extension Doro because what else is she gonna be used for

[jagged mesa]

i want modernia treasure because i love her burst

[placid bloom]

surely she will buff water AR into the sun

and give XGuillo the time to shine

[stuck pike]

itd be funny if Doro gets a treasure and they change her mechanic like they changed Laplace

No longer last bullet

[placid bloom]

unleash the dragon sealed in her eye

[umbral belfry]

[jagged mesa]

i know almost nothing about xguillo

[stuck pike]

level up mechanic, it's severely undertuned. she's terrible other than buffing water characters.

if u want a delayed power spike water character, Selegg would help you more.

[jagged mesa]

i actually do want to build selegg

but as usual, behind my other backlog of 30

[covert lintel]

Liberalio?

[jagged mesa]

im really fighting the urge to 10/10/9 sanis right now

is sanis even still good in pvp

[stuck pike]

she's outperformed by uvesti and emilia if you want an aoe dps

but there's her lifesteal interaction with biscuit if u burst with biscuit ig

[placid bloom]

I already 10/10/9 her for tower

not like I'm pulling Milk

[stuck pike]

sanis is still a good choice for tower

[placid bloom]

I can worry about Milk when she comes onto wishlist

[jagged mesa]

milk is a pain in the ass to play

problem is, my ein is still 7/7/7 and there's anni/xmas/ny coming up

[stuck pike]

her, Bsoda, and Xlud are my best dps besides alice there anyways. I did not pull Bmilk but she would be better than all of em if I did and could tolerate Bmilk's wonky gameplay.

[jagged mesa]

so idk about spending on sanis right now

i'll wait to see how SR goes without investing (probably poorly, my electric is doodoo)

[covert lintel]

Tetra tower will get a new meta next year

[jagged mesa]

anis overspec

[stuck pike]

Her burst to 9 at minimum is worthwhile. The rest is debatable on your current roster.

[jagged mesa]

burst is the resource book i have the least of

[placid bloom]

I would rather just get her skill 1 to 10 to buff your real elec and run her off burst

[jagged mesa]

are we expecting double 1%?

[placid bloom]

[jagged mesa]

thats what i was thinking honestly

[placid bloom]

spending rock to get Atk/ele on her is not gonna get your far for this SR

[jagged mesa]

but now we know its gluttony, idk

[stuck pike]

did you pull ada?

[jagged mesa]

coreless electric

[jagged mesa]

yeah

[stuck pike]

Ada is better than sanis for Ein.

[jagged mesa]

my ein is 7/7/7 still

[placid bloom]

it's no core but she's still mediocre damage-wise for how much rocks you spending on her

better to just spend on Cinderella

[jagged mesa]

i just sank my remaining 14 rocks into cindy for nothing

[placid bloom]

that's normal, my past 3 week gone into Cinderella and no change to her OL

[jagged mesa]

i wonder if mpriv will be the move for SG team

[stuck pike]

my cindy is pretty much done. it's time to build up other Nikke in the rock gamba.

[placid bloom]

nah, just Naga for QTE

[jagged mesa]

probably yeah

[placid bloom]

nobody has resource to build MPriv

[jagged mesa]

i wonder if sanis s2 will even hit gluttony for full damage during the moving QTE portions

[placid bloom]

and if you did build her you would have to mald healer-less Leona

[jagged mesa]

what are some 2025 viable sanis teams for pvp

[jagged mesa]

[placid bloom]

SBS dist dmg had no issue hitting Gluttony during increased def last SR, don't see why it would be different this time

or whatever the old mechanic was, damage reduced

[stuck pike]

if you're not cp gapping, she's not too hard to counter pick on defense. You could use her for attacking some front loaded comps though.

[placid bloom]

SAnis no good tbh, she is clip SG without clip burst gen

[raven plover]

[placid bloom]

too hard to fit anywhere

[raven plover]

rumani was "filler" before 2nd anni

[stuck pike]

LM helped bumped Rumani stonks tbh

another B1 option to avoid stun.

[jagged mesa]

time to riot existing pvp tier lists

[jagged mesa]

true

in any case i doubt i can even assemble 3 full teams this time

[covert lintel]

Filler but useful in pvp

[hollow lagoon]

8/8/8 for me

[raven plover]

filler for pve player

[hollow lagoon]

why would u raise ein higher

its not like ur on hard 32/32 and u want recoard breaking clear

unless u are that crazy then by all means proceed

[covert lintel]

My ein 101010, cheese tower

[hollow lagoon]

my missilis tower is qeq+laplace b3

i'm not struggling or anything

[jagged mesa]

i actually want ein for missilis tower and also for current ch27 & 28 hard

[hollow lagoon]

????

[jagged mesa]

wat

[hollow lagoon]

27 and 28 with ein?

[jagged mesa]

has some uses yeah

[hollow lagoon]

not my choice

crystal chamber was it?

[jagged mesa]

just the regular stage nodes

[upper grove]

just mald ch 27 and 28 without electric and iframe all the suiciders

[hollow lagoon]

wait are u the 40% deficit guy

[jagged mesa]

ya im currently like 2nd lowest all-time cp for half the stages since 26-17 til 27-21

or something like that, cant even check

next stage im still 10k below lowest cp, and that player was 110 synchros above me so it's not even equal comparison

im thinking of following in klo's footsteps with ein to push further

[hollow lagoon]

u know if u wanna break recoards what u should do is clear chapters in like 5-10 years when we get even more op units then invest in that, meanwhile dont sync up

[jagged mesa]

especially since as kuwon says, ch27 is just doodoo nodes in general

and also i jsut want to break my first 1,000,000 cp stage

plus ein will have uses in the upcoming SR too

as much as i want sanis 10/10/9 i think i should do ein first

[hollow lagoon]

i have not used ein in any stage besides hard 32-32

[jagged mesa]

i think current stage im up to like 43%? i have to check

[jagged mesa]

not records, i just want to push outpost as far as possible

[hollow lagoon]

how do u people have infinite elemental books

[jagged mesa]

because my electric is severely underdeveloped across the board 😂

[hollow lagoon]

ele

7/7/7 is considereed developed for me

[jagged mesa]

trina 4/4/4 xmaiden 4/7/4 sanis 7/7/4 cindy 10/7/10 scarlet 7/4/7 rouge 10/7/7, rest of electric is pretty much untouched

worse than my other elements

[hollow lagoon]

7/7/4 sanis

what of ur moran

[jagged mesa]

1/1/1

[hollow lagoon]

bro get out of the pvp channel

[jagged mesa]

😭

[jagged mesa]

😭

[hollow lagoon]

i wanna see 4/4/7 moran before u come back

[jagged mesa]

heres the thing

[hollow lagoon]

[jagged mesa]

i literally have nothing to do in pvp, since the last shuffle

[hollow lagoon]

well me too

[jagged mesa]

im sitting at c2 with no revisions to my teams at all, dont evne have noah, and nobody is knockingme down

and c1 is 90 synchros up on me

I CANT DO ANYTHING

IM PURE AFK

[hollow lagoon]

90 syncro

that's

.... that means ur not in my bracket

[umbral belfry]

he's NA

[jagged mesa]

ya i was with hime and folian

hime left us for new friends

[hollow lagoon]

because if ur in my bracket you would say 120

[jagged mesa]

and so did everybody else that i was fighting for c3/c4 with

[umbral belfry]

[jagged mesa]

so its not even that i dont wanna do more pvp

its that i cant at all

[hollow lagoon]

u still do ca

[jagged mesa]

i was thinking of investing more into CA teams but that got shuffled/merged up too

dont think i can compete

im a perma advance group newbie now

[umbral belfry]

lock in ash

[jagged mesa]

you know those boxers that have 76-1 records

im one of those 76

a forgotten name

a local regional amateur that they fought when they were 7-0 and 18 years old

[upper grove]

why are your brackets so chill

[jagged mesa]

idk my brackets are kinda dead

my ark rankings server too, next highest tower is like 130 floors behind me

everybody is active but no pushing at all and no pvp cooks

half the people in my rookie have noah and just stick them in p1 with no CS so i havent even had to work around that

[upper grove]

I have 2 sync whales 50 and 70 lvls ahead each sitting at ch2 and ch4, while ch3 and ch5 are in my range and we can all hit each other

[covert lintel]

Just do what you want to do
And usually there is skill reset in anniv

[jagged mesa]

and the other half have noise noah but somehow im still stunning noah

[jagged mesa]

oh wait you're actually so right

[river dune]

The type of emoji is this?

[stuck pike]

CS/ammo difference maybe.

unless Noise is just dying

[jagged mesa]

incorrect cs probably

but im just wondering why are they even running noise noah if its incorrect cs

[stuck pike]

Couldn't say, but Noise Noah works very well when you incorporate Jackal to keep Noise alive. It's a comp I'll use for SPA attacking or in Rookie defense.

[umbral belfry]

super saiwhale

[river dune]

Nice

[indigo path]

i got centi, do you think she can replace anyone here

two of them are threatening my pos1

and my special arena

[warm monolith]

Help pls,the first team would win and i dont have emil

[stuck pike]

Your Rookie team is 4 RL, so yes Centi would make a massive difference. Crown would be my go to choice to swap for Centi.

[indigo path]

gotcha! thanks

gen ratio basically never

[stuck pike]

it'll hit 4 RL bcuz of jackal, but yes, it's terrible

[primal charm]

chat is this 25% cs with or without skill 2 yet?

[indigo path]

what is RL btw

[thin abyss]

With

[stuck pike]

the amount of time for normal rocket launcher shots without charge speed buffs.

2 RL means after a team shoots twice with rockets, you'd begin the burst sequence

[indigo path]

oh that makes sense now

ok i nuked crown

any recs for spa?

[stuck pike]

several things to change tbh, but you only said centi so what else you have gives little to work with

[indigo path]

all the units i have to work with here

sorry the screenshots were right below my rookie screenshot with my current teams

[stuck pike]

I think you can actually change your rookie even more

[indigo path]

yeah i had a few new units and never updated the team

[stuck pike]

before getting started on spa

This one would be way better.

[warm monolith]

@fathom rock @tropic summit

[stuck pike]

Although you can actually switch Jackal to p1 if there's any Rosanna or LM threat

That's probably your best rookie team

[indigo path]

ooh Trina is useful without scarlet?

I thought usually people don't use her without

[stuck pike]

Trina is the highest vanilla burst gen battery, but Helm with treasure or Emilia with CS can do better, as well as Jackal with her procs.

Her buff itself is 20% ATK dmg, which is okay.

Scarlet just gets another massive atk dmg buff plus ammo/reloading on top

and 2 sec invuln

[indigo path]

haha i lost around 20k cp so that might be a bit dangerous

[night ingot]

Hey all. Can someone recommend me an 1v1 arena team please ?

[indigo path]

but that does make sense

[stuck pike]

your ada ideally needs to be built up, but she buffs Ein alot.

[indigo path]

yeah she's 4/4/4 only

[stuck pike]

And you'll reach 2 RL in that comp always, so it's very fast and likely blitz most others to death

[indigo path]

i have pve investments higher atm so maybe someday with more resources

or maybe it's a good idea

since pvp is a lot of gem generation

at least spa

[stuck pike]

ada is useful in every game mode to a degree tbh.

just can't use her in manufacturer towers obv

[indigo path]

i'll 7/7/7 her for now then

had a hard time really commiting becasue she's electric too

and ein + sanis...

[stuck pike]

she buffs more than sanis for ein specifically

if its a cindy, sanis is better

[indigo path]

ooh hmm

my sanis is goated rn cause she has a SR15 doll tho

[stuck pike]

you'll still throw her in a spa team likely, i'll look now at that

[indigo path]

kk

[river dune]

In every game mode?ppl say that she's not good for PvP though

A lot of other people says that she is I'm confused atm

[shell hazel]

if you have basically every other unit I don't see when you'd run her

not even for CA which needs 5 teams

think prydwen given her too high of a pvp rating for what she is, OK dmg dealer/buffer in some cases

[stuck pike]

she's a wheelchair for Ein and UVesti. Her burst gen is standard RL and has some DPS without burst. she's niche, not meta.

[shell hazel]

I've seen one video where indom Ada (presumably built pretty well) is able to one shot some stuff to avoid biscuit immunity, that's like the only video I saw lol

[river dune]

I see

[fast nest]

Indom Ada seemed good.

[quasi bison]

Why didn't Moran take any damage?

[shell hazel]

but I mean is it really better than indom insert other unit lol

[shell hazel]

you're hitting moran for 1 😛

[quasi bison]

[stuck pike]

you can use her to burst too but that's not what I was suggesting her for.

she can get around the Noah burst since the timing is around Emilia's, but she doesnt hit everyone unless a jackal link is there.

[shell hazel]

if you're going to run vesti into a somewhat built stall comp it may be best to give her a damage buff, or your vesti needs better overloads

[stuck pike]

also obv not on emilia's level in terms of burst gen as said above

Noah Uvesti is her best comp if ur gonna use her in SPA, Rookie has full reigns since its just 1 team.

Blanc Uvesti probably is fine without Ada

[shell hazel]

with a bit of formatting work I think I may have the API putting the data into a format I can use without manually updating a sheet

I have the data for the individual gear as well and the lines and such just not quite sure how I want to use it yet

[stuck pike]

This is probably the best you could do given your roster. There's still potential for tweaks, but I'm also trying to avoid you losing to a LM stun and other easy counters.

[indigo path]

I appreciate the hard work

[shell hazel]

man with so few units it's nice you have some usable pvp ones

shame no noah, wishlist the gremlin

[indigo path]

i feel like i have so many pvp units over pvp hahaha

im 50k+ cp below all of these challenger1-9 people

[stuck pike]

that's normal.

[indigo path]

but still very competitive, very easy to overtake a few

i might invest in some more pvp units

maybe to 7s for some skills

[fast nest]

Whenever having breakfast, just dont forget to give ur account protein bar(daily core dust pack).
Then just a few will challenge you.

[shell hazel]

campaign push should be primary goal tbh

I've outdone a lot of my early opponents simply by malding campaign and pushing

if a unit does both campaign + pvp it's a big win as well, such as Helm treasure

[indigo path]

ye i push slowly nowadays after mw

[stuck pike]

~300k below the lowest where im at

[indigo path]

I really need a real b1 that doesn't ramp up like liter and i can do much better

[shell hazel]

it's siren basically only improvement you'll get atm

[stuck pike]

For PvE? You need LM for most of the gameplay and it'll be a boon for your arena gameplay

[indigo path]

siren will never come home

[shell hazel]

rapi also but rapi is too good of a b3

so you wind up wanting her as b3 and siren as b1

[stuck pike]

unless its hard MC, did you see that Ada Ein with RRH B1 clear yet?

[shell hazel]

can't forget RH she can be a clutch B1 as well

[indigo path]

yeah no worries on that, soon RH + anni

then rapi at new years?

[shell hazel]

I am actually at the final hard CC before MC

[indigo path]

rh, crown, rapi bursts will carry me to future and beyond

[shell hazel]

problem is my Ein is not built nor is my Ada 😄

[stuck pike]

it's funny that Ada actually buffs RRH as a B1.

[shell hazel]

there is too much catching up to do, I think I can clear CC at 421 anyway

405 atm

[indigo path]

which cc

[stuck pike]

Im building Ada, but no rocks yesterday so I cant OL her lvl 5 helmet

[shell hazel]

chapter 31 hard

[stuck pike]

i'll get some today tho

unless i get a cursed streak

[indigo path]

maybe i should grind again

i pushed like 40 stages on saturday

[shell hazel]

I posted my 30 hard mode boss clear here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lubF2x31QvI

[keen vapor]

Where's MC lowest clear

[shell hazel]

not going to happen

[stuck pike]

#team-building message
This is def up there, at the very least no Cindy

[keen vapor]

let's go, Ada gaming

Wait, no Cindy she's my best electric

[stuck pike]

buffs both Ein and RRH, it's cheesy and Ada herself ain't a slouch

[shell hazel]

yeah, I'll revisit after 31 is down

I'll have a bit of a wait for 32 anyway

bro who did that is 450 sync, I'm miles off that, even with a 421 clear on CC I won't be clearing MC that soon

[indigo path]

damn seeing people clear cc at 421 means i should try harder

[shell hazel]

also my vesti came in clutch in a lot of the stages as well

think I had one of the lowest clears on the mega healer stage thanks to vesti

[indigo path]

yeah don't have on main, but my alt has vesti and she's just carrying overtime

[umbral crown]

[indigo path]

did so much vs 21 mw too

[shell hazel]

31-35 hard mode was a nightmare lol

just rapi and vesti blowing stuff up

[stuck pike]

noise noah cindy helm jackal, is a pretty universal team.

[river dune]

I'm hard stuck at 32 soon going to be free

[shell hazel]

32 is MC which is a big wall

31 is last CC for now don't think we get another one after this

[river dune]

Are the other bosses after MC easy to do?

[stuck pike]

in towers, but not in campaign

[shell hazel]

I think it's a mixed bag, if you can clear MC I imagine next couple of chapters you can push

we got snakey boy ofc

[stuck pike]

behemoth and black snake are kinda awful. even crystal armor kinda sucks unless you cheese it with Laplace treasure or something that does true damage.

[shell hazel]

and blobby guy

[river dune]

I play in phone so it definitely will be harder than PC

[stuck pike]

behemoth has tight timings for a high deficit run

[shell hazel]

by then though you're 461 or 481 at least so less of a deficit than if you can push through 32 quickly

the later chapters will largely be walls or needing certain units built

[north brook]

yeah to be real, you just are going to get stuck on the next bosses

[shell hazel]

yeah, I figure you need to be well into the 500's to do everything in the game atm

[stuck pike]

if you use a similar strategy to MC, armor can be beaten, but true damage makes it so much easier.

[north brook]

the only one thats easy enough to do heavy defecit at same lvl as the stages is gluttony

but u still need to do it on pc and time dodges perfectly whole time

[shell hazel]

I don't get a level a day so it will take me another year to sort of push through the current stuff prob

[north brook]

but ziz is another insane boss

cleared most of the chp at 541 bracket, and lowest lvl clear on ziz is 581

[shell hazel]

mostly though if you get stuck it's just waiting and getting stronger with more sync

[river dune]

Frima is true dmg right?

[shell hazel]

stuff that wasn't possible later becomes possible

[north brook]

(actually i think theres a hyper whale with 12/12 units who did it at 561)

[shell hazel]

the advantage of pushing is reduced when all normal stages are complete also

[stuck pike]

yes but then you'd use Frima as your flex unless you used a b2 cdr lol

Also needs treasure ofc

[north brook]

behemoth is a big dmg check mostly, but then black snake is both a survivability check and dmg check

[river dune]

I mean apart from Bay Poli Miranda Julia I have done treasure for all of em

[stuck pike]

the lightning QTE is still a survival check

[shell hazel]

last time on the lightning I just b3 helm and healed through it 😄

[north brook]

hard campaign past the cindy bosses is pretty much all bosses u get stuck on and then the normal stages arent that hard

[stuck pike]

gotta time it, but ye

[shell hazel]

some stages are still a pain

[north brook]

apart from the volleyball spam ones ofc

[shell hazel]

but typically if you can beat the bosses you can get through the stages I feel

31-35 had like 6 tanky healers who healed eachother 😄

at high deficit that is sheer pain

[violet spoke]

Beat hard 32 last week and now stuck on 34 hard with my highest power team having a 350k deficit

[stuck pike]

you could always pull out the pocket Xanne

[shell hazel]

tanks my cp wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much

[stuck pike]

prolly and lose a flex.

[shell hazel]

I'll just hit for 1 instead lol

I need to run my best built units a lot of the stages I was doing at like 40-45% deficit

bringing in xanne and suddenly I'm > 50% and dead

[keen vapor]

Hyper investing Maid Mast is done, now it's turn for Anc- oh wait, that's Behe right oh oh

[placid bloom]

it's time for the tech, burst holding with Ada and nuking target with Rapi burst + Ada burst

[shell hazel]

this is what I was at for this one

350K deficit would seem a dream lol

that is -600K

[shell hazel]

she may wind up being just the thing I'd want to carry through CC on chapter 31 hard but needs a lot of resources to catch up cp wise

[jagged mesa]

Is MC hard gonna be like getting stuck for literally 60+ synchros

[shell hazel]

yes, likely unless we get new meta pilgrims to make it easier

I am expecting to be waiting there for the longest gap in all my clears prob

[north brook]

mostly depends how hard u pushed until then

[jagged mesa]

[shell hazel]

is a shame but lets me take time to build out what I need for it

[north brook]

dont worry ull get the fun opportunity to fight mc again in tribe towers later

[shell hazel]

I won't clear it this year

[jagged mesa]

To think that the next 120 synchros I'll get will only take me from 27h to 32h

That's like 5 chapters in half a year

[tropic summit]

@jagged mesa did you get jill in the end

[jagged mesa]

#pvp-arena message

Fakeout D into fakeout jill

[tropic summit]

the dream is over

[shell hazel]

I was there it was a miracle

ash with his last gem pulled Jill

[jagged mesa]

Damage done:

[shell hazel]

resources? bah, not needed here

[jagged mesa]

Up next, Noah from pilgrim mold in 3h

[shell hazel]

def gonna happen

[jagged mesa]

I'm only missing SW and Noah, so if I see the reveal animation it's a 50/50

[north brook]

surely they will buff my core 5 harran soon

definitely best pilgrim to get spammed from molds

[shell hazel]

[jagged mesa]

Im gonna do my classic ritual, turn screen face down, swipe without looking or volume, put phone down, go do something else for 5 minutes, then come back and look at results

Err not swipe, tap open I mean

[shell hazel]

-# game crashed

[jagged mesa]

What would even happen if I started a pull and game crashes before I swipe it

[shell hazel]

I think it's all server side so it would still go through just you won't see the results

[placid bloom]

pull is already done when you spend the tickets

[shell hazel]

and there is no log so gg

[placid bloom]

sometimes I lag on my pull and the red dot shows up on character menu icon before the pull animation starts

so I already know I pulled something

[jagged mesa]

Oh I saw that a long time ago but haven't recently

I totally forgot about that actually

Is it 50/50 pilgrim mold for you today

[placid bloom]

I don't remember

I didn't pay attention to my frags

I just know I've been pulling trash regardless of the source

I don't think I've had a single average or better luck banner this year

all below average results

[jagged mesa]

[placid bloom]

I remember MAnchor costing 90 pulls

[jagged mesa]

Mr c2 crown without rate up

[placid bloom]

and MMast costing close to that too

and WAsuka and ReiTN were just barely average or worse

[keen vapor]

@coarse lake how you beat Behe, this poor soul needs guidance from someone who cleared it

[north brook]

remember going all in on mmast because i knew shed be essential

then like 2 banners after i got 2 of her in one pull

[placid bloom]

I mean my off banner rate is fine

[north brook]

on a diff banner

[placid bloom]

my on banner rate is dogshit

[jagged mesa]

Actually I had a miracle moment when I was pushing ch22 nihil hard

[shell hazel]

yeah do wish they published a log because then I could see how poorly my pulls were actually lol

[jagged mesa]

I just needed a bit more damage

[north brook]

least she is really good

[jagged mesa]

Opened a gold mold and got mmast dupe

Just enough to get me the clear

[shell hazel]

blood - are you pregnant? 😄

[coarse lake]

hyper cindy

[north brook]

ya pretty much just if ur cindy and sanis not already invested

get to it

[fast nest]

Im on hard19. I recently had RRH, so I am investing her now. Who else do I need to invest and prepare for stage? Only SAnis?

[placid bloom]

no

[north brook]

for most regular stuff just get rapi invested more

[placid bloom]

unless you planning to SR with her

it's gonna be a while before you even use SAnis

cuz your next big bosses are Nihilister x2 and MW

[keen vapor]

Always blocking one rock with Cindy decoy

[placid bloom]

and then iron weak chapters

[fast nest]

SDoro then?

[placid bloom]

you have a lot of time before you actually need to work on elec outside of SR

[keen vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956169630400016384/1322996349809070160/1115522135276933200.gif

[shell hazel]

if you want my advice, max out rapi a lot

she is main carry dps on basically every stage for ages

[stuck pike]

Jill, ein, and Ada can cut down on that a bit. If we get other electric dps with true damage, more possibilities

[shell hazel]

give her at least 30% atk and 40% ele with some good ammo rolls, if not more if you can

[violet spoke]

@keen vapor I could, but it might help him place higher than XP

[shell hazel]

40% atk and 80% ele with ammo is perfect

[fast nest]

Okay. RRH -> SDoro -> SAnis -> Ada confimed

[shell hazel]

for campaign I dunno if sdoro all that useful?

SR/UR yeah prob

[fast nest]

Just for Nihillister

[shell hazel]

think s.anis and ada more likely to see use in campaigns

[keen vapor]

Dunno about XP but at least higher than Hero

Hitting 551 synch is out of the question right

[stuck pike]

Shes the best water dps. Nihilster obviously but beyond that, just high atk with solid dps

[shell hazel]

my rapi rolls need some work but it functions at this level

[coarse lake]

Can try rouge as b1 if you die to rocks

[keen vapor]

Dam Rouge gaming still after MC

[shell hazel]

rapi is 12/12 line girl, so I theoretically have two pieces to entirely re-roll still for line 3

[violet spoke]

@stuck pike every time i check his score gets higher and higher

[keen vapor]

Lock middle attack chest
Fish Ele

[shell hazel]

I quit pushing for now at 900K 😄

[keen vapor]

Oh my god full clear

[shell hazel]

I really dislike lock middle line, I'd just full roll for line 3 if I was going to bother

my union mate in 1st has 1.3M 😄

[stuck pike]

I will do a legit run at some point with claire. I overtook him in a few shooting range setups.

[shell hazel]

I'm 2nd at 900K

[gaunt pulsar]

i'm at 29 normal though, Sdoro still in a team as a best dps and used in every stage since like chapter 10, her whole tactic on campaign stages is to wait for boss and nuke it under burst, just too much dmg, so what i do is clear screen with sbs>second/third burst Sdoro nuke

[shell hazel]

sdoro is good if you lack the usual meta dps

but Rapi is primary b3

[stuck pike]

Now that spa is done, I got more time

No random snipes to worry

[shell hazel]

my spa is not done I probably need to go and steal back SPA1 from the old whale later on

I like to start new season at 1st if possible

[violet spoke]

I get close in shooting range, but the 100+ lvl diff makes it harder for me

[stuck pike]

He's our union levi, so its not that surprising.

Highest lvl then its me (but im f2p and the sync gap is very steep), Both him and the union leader started before me bcuz they have csm n i don't so im makima bricked.

[fast nest]

I remember someone who used shotgun deck pushed MC.

SDoro was main dps.

[stuck pike]

Shotgun can 1 shot like a sr/rl

Just unreliable tbh

[fast nest]

It was his screenshot. Mc clear

[spare nimbus]

What 💀

First time I have ever seen someone use sg team for mc

[fast nest]

Yeah everyone was in panic

[swift mango]

looks mod apk

[spare nimbus]

Tbf it is normal mode so i guess easier

[swift mango]

I could clear it auto with 1 tove.

[swift mango]

it's not, not at synch 223.

[fast nest]

Even though it is normal mode, many may question who the hell break slipper.

[swift mango]

he would be 100% deficit even with max cores.

[spare nimbus]

Probably doro?

[fast nest]

Yes doro

[spare nimbus]

Idk what sync u need for normal mode mc

I cleared hard mode mc at 481

[swift mango]

261 at least.

[fast nest]

Well. Lowest cp is around 295~300k as far as I remember. With well built cindy, it usually start with 310k.

But 317k and shotgun went through MC.

[spare nimbus]

Doro power

[stuck pike]

It depends if true damage is used

[swift mango]

mod apk power

[gaunt pulsar]

mc normal is like 415k, so it's 23% deficit

[swift mango]

if you were a whale and use mod, no one would ban you so long as you didn't break rank 1. Trust.

[spare nimbus]

lol SU lets whales get away with anything

Especially top players who use macros lol

I remember I tried binding my left click to my keyboard because clicking on keyboard is easier than mouse and SU banned me 💀

I wasn’t even using a macro or anything i just binded shoot button to my keyboard

[swift mango]

guess macro is safe but key binding isn't. Or it was during the Alice macro sweep. In the early days.

https://tenor.com/view/doro-gif-8878669028358137416

[spare nimbus]

No macro is definitely not safe

People get banned for using macro unless ur a whale

Key binding is fine

SU was just dumb and did an incorrect detection and wrongful ban

[swift mango]

I know f2p and low spenders who used macro just fine.

[keen vapor]

@ocean oyster I did more testing

If Noah is in the last position (P5) while Noise is first then Noah 1 tier above is enough for Noise to keep prio

-# Self note to test Noah P4, P3 & P2
-# Self note to test Adjutant on Noise

[spare nimbus]

How did they not get banned for using macros but I got banned for not using macro

[swift mango]

maybe because you used macro during that mass ban incident years ago. SU doesn't care about it now

[spare nimbus]

I didnt do that years ago

Like 3 months ago

Also it wasnt even macro I just used a key on my keyboard to shoot instead of mouse

[swift mango]

you said it was not macro

[spare nimbus]

Yeah

But the game thought I was using macro

[compact eagle]

Was it hotkey software or was it a programmable keyboard

[normal shard]

when they first starting banning people years ago for using macros on Alice, some people got false positives becasue they were just cliking really fast, not even during combat this happen in world map when people were spam clicking looking for relics

[spare nimbus]

I have a tecware keyboard so I just used the tecware software and binded W as left click

[compact eagle]

I see

Assuming it's replayed as an HID input for the mouse click then the conclusion is that EAC still has a way to detect it; if I had to guess, by checking that the USB device that issued the mouse click was actually a mouse

Regardless, it flagged the anti cheat and they issue the ban

[quartz rover]

to make a better defense team do I target just faster rl?

or does it not matter since spa is vastly attacker sided

[north brook]

only way ur gonna defend is with serious cp gap or full 2rl teams that require hard counters to beat

(or 2.5rlish)

[fast nest]

CP gap is the best def strategy

[north brook]

anything 3rl is just liable to get run over for free

[quartz rover]

ah

[fast nest]

Just consider daily core dust pack as daily vitamine.

[north brook]

ideally you have 3 teams ur opp wants to hard counter with noah or similar so they struggle to counter 2 of them

[quartz rover]

so these are cheeks for defense

I have no noah or scarlet but I have a bay

and a tvesti

but i'm not sure I wanna have them use those against others

[north brook]

does depend what ur opps have, u just need to beat them

[quartz rover]

hard to say because they're behind me but I just see them take 3rd 20 hours too late

I may just have to check more often

[thin abyss]

Does anyone know what happens if you attack two seconds before the season ends? Does the attack still count? Or do you get an error?

[quartz rover]

it works

maybe not 2 seconds before

[north brook]

once u attack it pings the server, playback can crash and placement will still update basically

[thin abyss]

Oh well I'll have to try

[north brook]

final placement doesnt mean anything tho

[fast nest]

But for what? SpA?

[north brook]

its king of the hill

[gaunt pulsar]

good to have to start new season higher

[north brook]

u need to hold a higher spot for longer duration

[quartz rover]

it matters for start of next season

[fast nest]

Of course but it will be taken right away tho

[thin abyss]

Yeah spa, I know I'm just in a back and forth with some guy who attacks me 10 seconds before daily reset

[gaunt pulsar]

depends on when your group plays, mine in global is all over the place, some are always there some are like twice a day and there like 10h window when they not after daily reset

[fast nest]

Duration being 1st-3rd matter for SpA rank reward.

In other words, total score

[gaunt pulsar]

yeah, it doesn't mean much in grand scheme of things to take higher place at the last minute before new season, still a nice bonus though

end ranking is usually tight, even a little bit of extra points matters

[quartz rover]

anyone wanna help make a better defense?

I imagine indom vesti can be one

but do I give them the sauce

[fast nest]

I am running 1. CP team 2. Scarlet 3. Cindy team

[quartz rover]

I see

I cant do full cindy team because noah eludes me

also dont have scarlet but im sure vesti works

[fast nest]

Just make lvl gap. Me 264 while other SpA members are 235ish.

[quartz rover]

the dude im defending against has more levels (not enough to matter)

but I invest my resources into pvp

[fast nest]

As time goes on, he will make more lvl gap, then more cp gap. Then even though you invest on ur pvp deck, they may not work in near future.

[leaden canyon]

Anybody got any other defense ideas to try

noah does not get siren stunned here because noise is slower cs to take the stun

[quartz rover]

I can easily reach his level if I used my cores

[fast nest]

Why don't you use it? It will help you push stage thing too.

[quartz rover]

stuck on mc

how do I make this defense better

thats too slow for bay

[fast nest]

You dont have scarlet. Right.

[quartz rover]

I have sbs

no scarlet no noah

[fast nest]

Hmm

[placid bloom]

[quartz rover]

using this already

unless better options for 2 good teams then cp pad for final

[fast nest]

CP
Blanc biscuit
Jackal
I think it be like these....

[shell hazel]

wake up whaley boy it's time for your dailies!

[shell hazel]

blanc is slow and doing not much here given bay is b2

[quartz rover]

o right

[tropic summit]

he quit

[shell hazel]

blanc is very slow and biscuit is fairly slow, with two fairly slow units you won't do much speed wise

[shell hazel]

nah no shot

they skipped a day or so before

[tropic summit]

nah he's out

[shell hazel]

it would make my life easier if he had haha but

[tropic summit]

he has realized game not worth his money

[fast nest]

Hmm use this one but rumani instead of jackal.
Jackal vesti.. blanc...
The last one..

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[tropic summit]

it's over Hippo

[leaden canyon]

any quick ideas for this?

[tropic summit]

he has awakened to common sense

[shell hazel]

your whale quit Rail!

[leaden canyon]

Me about to get sniped

[fast nest]

Put shotguns with rosanna.

[shell hazel]

I won't be so lucky >.<

[shell hazel]

we both know it's true but damn I don't think so 😄

[tropic summit]

scarlet trina rh maidenx rumani
jackal vestiTU blanc emilia centi
noah biscuit helmt ros laplaceT

[leaden canyon]

Fingers crossed

[tropic summit]

first team is bait

[shell hazel]

Rail did you manage to knock your whale out yet? the one who quit?

[tropic summit]

your real def teams are T2 and T3

[tropic summit]

i can but it would just trigger my chinnits, i'm keeping ch4 until possible

[shell hazel]

why don't they take it if they're strong enough to beat you?

and you're strong enough to beat the whale?

[midnight coyote]

i was directed here

why is this chat so red

[shell hazel]

well if you must ask

[tropic summit]

their objective is not the gems or the ranks, it's just preventing me from claiming 300gems per season more

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/redrum-gif-25579755

quiet end to the season I beat this guy a few days ago tbh

4th SPA in a row for SPA1

entertainmentuuu!!!

[fathom rock]

@tropic summit @umbral belfry @clear folio im so cooked

[tropic summit]

le CA

[shell hazel]

le CA is upon us

retro prepare thyself

https://tenor.com/view/my-name-is-gladiator-maximus-gladiator-i-am-called-gladiator-you-may-call-me-gladiator-gif-1400251945732042774

[spare nimbus]

noice

[lunar pawn]

[violet spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[fathom rock]

So will I lose in leagues or in 64

[shell hazel]

5 🙁

[shell hazel]

Rail will cook you the best teams you'll win it

[fathom rock]

Good ending, don't have to care about ça and same rewards

[fathom rock]

I have dpx, cup, hime and ace in my bracket I am not winning

[lunar pawn]

I stopped caring about CA the moment it released

[shell hazel]

just win it

[fathom rock]

Piggy too

[shell hazel]

[placid bloom]

actually where ace been feel like haven't seen him in a while

[shell hazel]

@clear folio you still evil? 🙂

https://tenor.com/view/he-man-fabulous-skeletor-happy-angry-gif-10840409024452580013

[umbral belfry]

see you soon

[fathom rock]

@tropic summit https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/home?uid=MjkwODAtMTMyNTc4MDUyNTk1NzQzNDc5MDQ=&openid=MjkwODAtMTMyNTc4MDUyNTk1NzQzNDc5MDQ= take your time to roast my acc while cooking ca

[clear folio]

i havent logged in in a month 🫣

[placid bloom]

[shell hazel]

ace!

[fathom rock]

[placid bloom]

@umbral belfry why you not keeping your union members active

where's your megaphone

[shell hazel]

hime send wut da hell please

[placid bloom]

you need to do roll call in the mornings

[clear folio]

oh shoot im still 1st 🫣

[shell hazel]

ace