pvp-arena

[jagged mesa]

besides that, probably unnecessary but chain ammo is a wonder for rapi because techincally each drill turns your ammo to 1/1 for that drill shot, so you have a chance of refreshing your ammo every 60/120 shots

i was able to shoot for the entire c-7 fight in overclock on an account with base ammo rapi

https://youtu.be/swKmmQ6TJ74?si=gWiVYOBHL5BSbfKp

if you were curious, i had to reload tech wasuka for the clear at the time. excuse my qte mishap at 2:36, my other two accounts have helm at p4 for qte so i muscle-memoried wasuka by accident

[placid bloom]

yeah I get the same number of bursts as you, ending with SBS with MMast stunned

I'm just short damage

Helm potato

[jagged mesa]

do you also time your bursts so that mmast + sbs is the opening burst on core post-qte?

im actually a little surprised because my mmast-siren-sbs-helm-manchor account is getting quite close to s9 at 335 too

also dragging out the first mini-qte because its core is exposed during that sequence

[placid bloom]

it's not worth delaying wind QTE for me since only SBS and Mermaid can hit through it

[jagged mesa]

oh right

[placid bloom]

I get to phase 2 with like 1:50 on the clock or something

around 2b damage or so? But it's not enough to clear

[jagged mesa]

yeah my phase 1 is super dragged out because of mmast burst timings (both opening on 3-stack post qte, and for avoiding kraken's aoe hits)

[placid bloom]

well more like 1:35 after the fog QTE and he comes back from underwater

maybe my base stats at 361 will be enough for the missing damage

not really missing much anyway

[jagged mesa]

what are you right now?

and yeah, tbh kraken title is a bit ugly so whatever

[placid bloom]

I'm at like 5.2b

[jagged mesa]

i mean synchro

[placid bloom]

357

probably 358 today

[jagged mesa]

oct story update for cd/h

my stash is depleted atm though

[placid bloom]

I will probably stock after hitting 361 since I think ch27 is clearable at 361

unless these nodes are more cancer than I think they are

[jagged mesa]

i forget what the boss is for ch27. currently at 27-18 i believe? i think i can make it to boss before 360 but idk about the boss itself

[placid bloom]

it's the RNG OHKO guy

just reset until he only aims at Cinderella

her decoy should have taunt

[jagged mesa]

aw fudge im probably not beating that, my cindy is sorely underdeveloped

[placid bloom]

mine is actually a black hole

I'm pretty sure I've spent like 150 rocks on her

[jagged mesa]

i can only overachieve regular stages with vesti for the most part

[placid bloom]

and she is still 14% Atk 50% ele or some shit

[jagged mesa]

ok thats pretty ouch

less for mine, but im saddled with black line def on two pieces (go figure) iirc

i cant decide if my helm is a black hole or not

[placid bloom]

my gloves alone is just insane

I have black line Atk on line 3

[jagged mesa]

50+ rocks in and i have never seen an elemental line ever, but on the other hand she does have 1x black line and 1x blue line CS

[placid bloom]

but I spent like 70 rocks or something fishing for ele, I am even willing to skip line 2 and have line 1 ele

still don't have ele

that's with 2 rock rolls btw, not even 3 rock rolls

this has to be the one game where you can spend 1 month grinding and actually make 0 progress on gear

[jagged mesa]

its KINDA my first gacha so i dont know how normal that is

i hope i dont become one of those noah-less players for 2 years

is my helm black hole or not

[urban mulch]

open world gachas with the gachaified gear systems too

[jagged mesa]

literally never came across a single ele line ever

[urban mulch]

bro is calling me out (took me 1.5 years)

[jagged mesa]

but the cs and atk though...

[jagged mesa]

im coming up on one year

[placid bloom]

tbh if you're not using her for dps it's fine, she can just be PvP battery

if you are using her as main dps for Harvester then it's bricked

[jagged mesa]

at least it's good for rerolling, two pieces are double lock line 1 reroll

[jagged mesa]

i do hit s8 on harvester, so it's good enough. s9 though? ehhh

moreso nihilister becomes ever so slightly more of a pain in the ass

and i swear she pops up every week

actually, now that i look again, im hoping for another water solo raid soon

my helm has a really good reroll path tbh

[placid bloom]

I guess the lines are only not fantastic on the chest but maybe you just accept that you will be short 1 ele

don't think it's worth the rocks to fix that one when other chars have higher priority

I'd rather 12 line SDoro than 12 line Helm

[jagged mesa]

i just want at least one or two ele on helm, then call it a day for good

[jagged mesa]

i try not to think about sdoro because i accidentally pressed keep on a reroll that put blue ele line 3 and atk or ammo line 2, i forget

[placid bloom]

[jagged mesa]

my mihara is kinda cooked though. its just "good enough" for now but improving it will be painful

no idea how to approach my foot piece when i get around to it

[placid bloom]

I would just roll off the ammo for Atk tbh, Mihara only really needs 1 line of ammo to function, any extra is just bonus

but she really needs Atk because she has 0 Atk buff in her kit

[jagged mesa]

is shooting uptime such a small portion of her damage that only 1 ammo is needed?

[placid bloom]

she just needs 1 ammo to have enough bullets to stack to 20 chain during ther B3's FB

you're not losing that much dps from reloading a bit sooner

[jagged mesa]

mg raw damage on core is nothing to sneeze at though, i imagine the uptime hurts

[jagged mesa]

oh boy i hate manual reload on mgs

[placid bloom]

well you are eventually gonna MirandaT with her

can Ada now too so not get stolen buff by HelmT

[jagged mesa]

actually true

too many units to build, not enough rocks

i need a 500 rock infusion from shift up plz

have nothing saved for anni

[placid bloom]

surely they bring back bingo board

[pale harness]

Do I have enough decent units for PvP Arena?

[jagged mesa]

everybody has to cobble together teams at that level range, im no expert but ive helped my newcomer gf do up her team recently and i think you have some decent units for that level

[placid bloom]

Trina Jill

[jagged mesa]

i still have no idea what jill does

[placid bloom]

just think of her as an SG that doesn't feed and also doesn't burst gen

[jagged mesa]

as an AR? interesting

[placid bloom]

well her shooting speed slightly faster than SG I think

like Cinderella speed or something

[jagged mesa]

wait what

i need to log in and check in a bit, but is she one of those weird weapons

[placid bloom]

yeah 9 ammo AR

[jagged mesa]

is she a noobtuber

[dreamy parrot]

Good evening sirs

I'm trying to kill somone

would you kindly help me

the trick is that their SR Anis is level 1

[placid bloom]

I don't think her damage is quite that high

Ada Blanc on the other hand

that one might be

[jagged mesa]

wait i just realized you werent trolling with trina jill

is that actually a legit combo

[placid bloom]

for PvP? Probably not

[jagged mesa]

wtf shes a handgun, thats actually awesome

[placid bloom]

unless you wanna be funny

for PvE you have to manually reload every 9 shots because Trina increases her max ammo

but Jill's buff runs out after 9 shots

so it's like fake last ammo mechanic

[jagged mesa]

im excited to test now

[pale harness]

Apparently Jill is a beast against single target boss

[jagged mesa]

b1 trina jill sanis privaty...?

[pale harness]

But that's her only use

[placid bloom]

well you still have to manually reload even with Privaty because Privaty only reduces by base ammo

her damage should be higher than Scar Trina but more work to play unless you using special tools

[jagged mesa]

im stupid

[placid bloom]

not quite, need 110% or something to be instant

[jagged mesa]

i got confused with charge speed, nvm

[placid bloom]

[jagged mesa]

9 shot reload is not bad at all honestly, especially with trina its instant

all you gotta do is click at 9 shots

[placid bloom]

yeah you just have to count to 9 gameplay

[jagged mesa]

much better than reload tech-ing wasuka

which, by the way, at 60fps im one max ammo tier higher than what i'd need for automatic reload tech every single time with no manual input

i sunk 10 rocks into that and gave up because its such a waste, but i want it so badly

i hit the 9s mark with 8 bullets left

[gritty ridge]

Ok ill be logging in soon, place your bets on what place I got knocked down to overnight

[gaunt pulsar]

how does your cursor is always glued to tentacle here? you aren't moving it so it's auto aim but it doesn't leave the tentacle core either trying to recreate and my unit's just shot a few times and leaving to attack middle part, dont get what i'm missing

[jagged mesa]

iwth these settings, if you dont move your mouse at all, aim assist will stick. if you move at all, it will override the aim assist a bit

the tentacle movement is just barely at the threshold of sticking aim

any faster/some patterns unstick it

basically just click and hold and stay still as long as it's locked on

[gaunt pulsar]

ty, will practice, was assuming it's some setting but wasn't sure which one

[jagged mesa]

yeah sync cursor and crosshair off has way stronger aim assist*

sorry not auto aim, i mean aim assist

i edited my msg

[north brook]

sync better for a lot of fights with precise aiming, for kraken though luckily just normal aim assist is good to lock on the moving parts

[jagged mesa]

i used to play with sync, now i mostly default to unsync

i will toggle occasionally

in general unsynced does lock on to core pretty hard, so it's more precise if you can get used to the drag movement

e.g. for most fights you can stick on to core with rh/alice spam without moving mouse at all

[placid bloom]

sync is mainly for sniper pause

on mobbing stages

otherwise AI usually aim better than player does

[swift mango]

mean while my arena units doesn't need ele but keep getting it.

[placid bloom]

[swift mango]

I mean, what does blue line ele do for Trina and noah?

[placid bloom]

makes your CP fatter

ele give more CP than other lines

[jagged mesa]

honestly id skip ele on crown in favour of defense for the 1/100 chance it saves me with a sliver of hp if it werent for the cp diff

[umbral belfry]

@dense kindle @jagged mesa

matching frames and unions

[jagged mesa]

🕵️

i have the better pfp dont @ me

[umbral belfry]

[dense kindle]

D wins no contest

[jagged mesa]

your pfp has unfilled grey area in the background

my white hat wins

but the D skin is my most wanted of all gacha skins so far

[dense kindle]

Sounds like a draw to me 🤝

[umbral belfry]

[umbral belfry]

this does bother me too ngl LMAO

I gotta be aesthetic

[jagged mesa]

your skin wins, my pfp wins IM DYING ON THIS HILL

actually mary alt base skin is pretty peak too

if only the D skin had the green jacket in combat

[dense kindle]

Stop pointing it out

[jagged mesa]

we need a face option for pfp

[dense kindle]

Mary alt is peak

[jagged mesa]

ill concede D superiority if you sponsor my gacha tickets

[dense kindle]

You’re putting me in a tough spot here

[jagged mesa]

ngl the D skin is the closest this game has gotten to tempting me

[umbral belfry]

I know how to settle who has the better one

battle each other in ca

[placid bloom]

you should do pocky challenge to prove who's better

[umbral belfry]

[quartz rover]

If I was in third all week and 20 hours ago someone took my spot, who was 4th. Would that make them 3 overall?

[placid bloom]

no

[quartz rover]

cool

[placid bloom]

they would have to hold it for a week and some change

[quartz rover]

Oh that's good to know

[placid bloom]

not enough time left

[quartz rover]

I know the point divide between 3 and 4 isnt much so I thought it would be enough

It doesnt matter since top 4 is what gets the 3k anyway

[placid bloom]

5/hour diff is 120 points a day, 840 a week

no only top 3 get 3k

[quartz rover]

Oh

[placid bloom]

4th still gets CA but loses 300 gem

[quartz rover]

I may try to take 1 before reset

[placid bloom]

you would have to drop to like diamond 5 to lose 3rd in a day

it's not that easy to make up 840 points

usually 1-2k point gap cannot be bridged

[jagged mesa]

are you making fun of me

knocked out in advance every season since new CA bracket

[placid bloom]

[jagged mesa]

my top 64 bronze border is lacking decoration now

[placid bloom]

even I made it out of groups the 1 time I managed to sneak 4th

[jagged mesa]

i havent forgotten you knocking me out twice in a row the first 2 CAs

[placid bloom]

now I am stuck 6th like a pleb

[jagged mesa]

i forgive but never forget

[placid bloom]

also the 4th place guy slowly sync gapping me

I remember he used to only be like 15 sync ahead of me, now he is like 19

I guess he is buying $5 monthly bundle

[umbral belfry]

beat jsasor

[placid bloom]

or converting his battle data

[mystic rain]

mfw ive never had a sync gap advantage in my whole spa history

even tho im like 3rd highest campaign progress in my bracket 😭

[jagged mesa]

doesnt jsasor have like 3 months of resources on me

PLUS I STILL HAVE NO NOAH

[umbral belfry]

just get lucky

[placid bloom]

I have no Noah no Vesti no XMaid no LapT

[jagged mesa]

you know whats crazy about doll rng

my 276 alt has more SR15 and SR5 than my 343 account

and still more doll resources leftover

[jagged mesa]

pilgrim mold in 1 day

[placid bloom]

it's okay, in the end all your current char will be replaced by new char

[dense kindle]

Hime praying on my downfall

[jagged mesa]

if i see a pull animation i know it's one of these two

[placid bloom]

look how much power creep we got in the last year

[umbral belfry]

dw jsasor I'll get you both in my pools

that way you are together

[placid bloom]

yes, the winner can play pocky challenge with Hime

[umbral belfry]

[jagged mesa]

you just got voluntold

[dense kindle]

She’d only do that with Eunwha

[umbral belfry]

✂️

[placid bloom]

wym, there is space to do pocky challenge and ✂️ at the same time

[jagged mesa]

thats some core strength required

actually, im taking pilgrim mold bets now, a day in advance

what'll it be fellas

[placid bloom]

Grave

[jagged mesa]

dont you do this to me

[placid bloom]

you don't like Grave?

my Crown is c2 btw Idk how she keep showing up

[jagged mesa]

literally the worst option

[jagged mesa]

wtf............

[shell hazel]

mine did for a while as well

but pilgrims are super rare lately, not had any for ages, not even the bad ones

[jagged mesa]

like why

[placid bloom]

if I had rocks I would build Isabel Arcana for this SR but I don't

[shell hazel]

i've been messing about with the api today seeing if I can pull back info about my nikkes without needing to manually keep a sheet

and it seems that I can, but I also need to fine tune the output a bit

need to find a way to display the overloads better

[placid bloom]

on 1 row per char probably won't be pretty

[shell hazel]

no wondered if I should split the overloads/general character stuff

I can shorthand certain things ofc

grade is mlb state which is 0 - 3 (0 = has 1 copy, 3 = MLB) then core goes from 0 - 7

so I was doing 1 + grade + core = dupes which is then from 1 - 11 for max core

[jagged mesa]

pray for me

[tropic summit]

[jagged mesa]

i think i should buy noah spare body from shop to entice her to come home

[tropic summit]

would entice 🧱 if anything

[jagged mesa]

but im also wondering if tove spares are worth it given that she's likely perma used in sg team, at the risk of losing out on next batch of treasure

[jagged mesa]

im already 🧱 , how much more 🧱 can i get

shes actually here

is this a sign

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/queen-bohemian-rhapsody-sora-ai-dystopia-gif-17137448199778082672

[jagged mesa]

someone talk some sense into me

before i do something stupid

[shell hazel]

don't buy too many of those it's not worth

I did buy some pilgrim ones on account of the fact we have two new pilgrims coming soon

[jagged mesa]

do you plan on MLBing them?

i usually buy the abnormal ones

[shell hazel]

I don't know it kind of depends how many pulls I have and what comes along

if there is like a rapi or siren level one I'd probably try to MLB just that one, but I don't think I'd go for both if it's like Cindy / Grave again

[jagged mesa]

i really really need to pull jill so i can use my mileage

800 mileage, hopefully 1 mlb 1 single copy

[tropic summit]

jill isn't really worth pulling

you can skip her

even for a pve oriented player, unless you're pay 2 play ofc

but f2p should skip her if anything

[shell hazel]

I got just the 1 copy but it was way too expensive

[jagged mesa]

i dont wanna hear it

shes limited collab plus she gets to do funny things with trina

[shell hazel]

backs*ots?

[jagged mesa]

surely i get her in another 10 pulls

and a noah along the way

[tropic summit]

this guy is delusional

[shell hazel]

100%

will definitely work

[tropic summit]

real life about to hit him like a truck bringing you into isekai

[shell hazel]

Rail my whale just skipped attacking me today but instead they got another level

[jagged mesa]

tomorrow, pilgrim mold noah

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/truck-anime-truck-truck-kun-engage-kiss-truck-gif-26170051

[jagged mesa]

single pull jill

daily 150 snow white

[tropic summit]

what color do you want your dragon for christmas @jagged mesa

also easy on the drugs

[jagged mesa]

o ye faithless

[shell hazel]

sim room reset more skill books lets go

[shell hazel]

wen SSR belorta :9

[tropic summit]

swimsuit cinderella first thank you

[jagged mesa]

going to get rid of my bad luck in a simulator first

[tropic summit]

or i can settle for indivilia

https://tenor.com/view/sorry-ass-chatterbox-indivilia-machine-comrade-gif-17671581477774199376

[jagged mesa]

oh no

[placid bloom]

[jagged mesa]

the vibes arent right

[tropic summit]

reality kickin' in

[jagged mesa]

i still have faith

cant wait to also get emilia in re-zero rerun before xmas

not cope at all

[gritty ridge]

Vesti is now full ol

Double recycling shop was nice

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-girl-gif-24829264

[shell hazel]

[gritty ridge]

She needs 1 ammo and 3 atk left

[shell hazel]

I'm scared to roll my vesti more lol

[tropic summit]

where are the black lines

[gritty ridge]

My vesti is gonna be my first 12/12

[shell hazel]

I have 70 rocks

[gritty ridge]

Let me get ideal lines first before I worry abt values

[shell hazel]

but I'm scared to use them and get no atk line 1 like I want

[tropic summit]

surely you're not letting your girl go out dressed like that?

[gritty ridge]

Is she strong enough to use in pvp now? Or will she hit like wet noodle

[tropic summit]

at least 6 black lines and 6 blue lines

she needs her atk lines ya fool

[shell hazel]

I need to roll the line 1 to atk but it's 3 rocks a go and I think 40 locks as well

[gritty ridge]

Yeah other than her chest piece which is a full reroll its line 1 fishing so hopefully wont take too long

[shell hazel]

I did like 8 rolls already and missed the line 1 atk

[gritty ridge]

After vesti im pumping rocks into rosa to get 40% atk

[shell hazel]

I have enough locks to do 10 more but after that I'm out of locks again

[pale knoll]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1335026462264266802.webp?size=96&animated=true

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/hell-emiya-thats-hell-youre-walking-into-gif-27052445

[shell hazel]

ayee first time lol

but I say 1st it's more like 9th

[tropic summit]

and then there's these MFs

[gritty ridge]

[shell hazel]

it's 9th try rail lol

I ran out of rocks/locks before 🙁

[gritty ridge]

Ive only put 6 total rocks into vesti iirc

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/gurren-lagann-kamina-tengen-toppa-gurren-lagann-sword-katana-gif-27017115

[jagged mesa]

wheres that picture of someone getting double black on lines 2 and 3 on a line 1 lock

[tropic summit]

in jail

[shell hazel]

haha, I'm OK with like stage 10 on everything if I could

and not able to get blue/black line

but never get anything other than 10 😛

i'll try reset attributes a few times

[tropic summit]

although the lack of black lines is disturbing, a good ol hit rate black line would be great

[placid bloom]

I mean I spent 70 rock on Cinderella doing 2 rock roll looking for ele line 1 or line 2 and still haven't seen it knowing the average rate something appears doesn't mean it will appear

just like 2% rate up don't mean you will get it in 50 pulls

me shafted on gear and pulls

[tropic summit]

brickeroni with salsa a la brick, with vegeterian bricks and bricked soda

[shell hazel]

don't think I want to mald this one too much for now this may do

[tropic summit]

the dessert? bricked tiramisu a la brick

[tropic summit]

lock line 2, reroll till atk 11% and cs 4%

[jagged mesa]

random question, on nikke-deck what CS% is it assuming when you click on the bottom left box

[shell hazel]

will come back to this I think

[placid bloom]

it assumes 15%, any extra is 1 frame diff per 3%

[shell hazel]

this is good I take a win like this

[wind kelp]

Naughty naughty waves finger at someone Broke my streak :p

[tropic summit]

@swift mango look at this sh*t

[shell hazel]

haha

happy with this for now, save my rocks some for next things

the helm needs atk adding but it's blue line charge damage I'm taking off for it

[tropic summit]

@gritty ridge

[shell hazel]

I've put quite a few rocks into my vesti though

want to say near 100

[jagged mesa]

time for jill and noah to come home

shut up railtracer i dont wanna hear it

[jagged mesa]

yes i got both

[tropic summit]

in which parallel universe

[jagged mesa]

yes

[tropic summit]

[placid bloom]

I'm gonna pull 10 Noah in my next multi

[tropic summit]

i see the same drugs are spreadin'

[jagged mesa]

you've committed the cardinal sin of putting "where noah" in your bio

the game now detects your desire

[placid bloom]

nah it's fine

[jagged mesa]

therefore you will not get her

[placid bloom]

I am just gonna slowly phase out of arena

unless

[tropic summit]

hope is the last to die [c] a man with 10 pulls and a dream

[placid bloom]

Idk if the rank 4 guy trolling or not but he fail 2 attack even though I didn't change team or hit 361

I guess he messed up his OL

and lost CP

[tropic summit]

you gappin' him?

[placid bloom]

no, he is gapping me

[tropic summit]

i though you were around 20 synchro difference

[placid bloom]

yes

[tropic summit]

oh he's lost gap advantage you mean

[placid bloom]

he is 20 sync higher than me

[jagged mesa]

im simply going to win

[tropic summit]

reverse stronks

[placid bloom]

no I think he still has CP gap

[jagged mesa]

wait

i dont have enough for hard mode 1-11

[placid bloom]

buy $5 monthly gems

[tropic summit]

💳

[placid bloom]

you already spent, you lost your barrier

me still barrier intact

[tropic summit]

contribute to the next cinderella skin

[placid bloom]

[tropic summit]

possibly swimsuit alt

[jagged mesa]

winnable

[tropic summit]

i need more ass||ets||

[tropic summit]

@umbral belfry oi, another f2p joinin' the frey

[jagged mesa]

im kidding i wont

[tropic summit]

maybe jill is just that 10 pulls away

maybe if you just get enough for those 10 you'd get her

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[jagged mesa]

maybe my last 57 gems will go to this

do i get gem reward for unlock

am i giga brain playing this

[tropic summit]

you've come so far surely you'll get her next

the gacha gods will bless you

🍿

[jagged mesa]

[hollow lagoon]

Spider dead

[jagged mesa]

do we predict another round of limited/pilgrim units after anniversary and before xmas

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/sousou-no-frieren-frieren-beyond-journey-frieren-anime-frieren-book-drop-book-dropping-gif-5586080115796339217

[tropic summit]

hansel & gretel

[hollow lagoon]

Unfortunately didn’t get to look at butt shake much

[jagged mesa]

actually now that i thin kabout it, i cant afford to mlb anniversary pilgrim either

because xmas and new years is coming up

im gonna have to single mileage if i cant pull in 10

[hollow lagoon]

Wonder what pilgrim

We gonna get

[jagged mesa]

maybe i shouldnt have dropped 50+ pulls on xrupee and sneon

[hollow lagoon]

Lel I did

Also pulled a single Mary

[jagged mesa]

i didnt end up getting them anyways

[hollow lagoon]

Oh I did but it was like 50 pulls each

[tropic summit]

||nayuta ||

[jagged mesa]

if nayuta really is the one im predicting b1 with heal capability and cdr but little to no buffs

[hollow lagoon]

She hot tho

[jagged mesa]

i pulled her because i need her as my lobby/pfp

[hollow lagoon]

MLB?

[jagged mesa]

no mlb

just standing there

[hollow lagoon]

I didn’t pull her mlb either

[jagged mesa]

0 rocks today too im deleting my account and going to go play candy crush

[hollow lagoon]

I got 2 rocks, used on maiden to try to roll charge speed, didn’t happen

[hollow lagoon]

Which interception are you even doing

[jagged mesa]

kraken s7

[hollow lagoon]

Oh I stopped kraken

Scam it is

[wind kelp]

And here i am trying to get a helm for Drake and only getting rocks :p

[jagged mesa]

i can technically collect enough for another 10 pull

[hollow lagoon]

Shipping helm and Drak? How bold

[jagged mesa]

but thats a lot of reading

and i dont want to

[hollow lagoon]

Skip like u don’t love them

[wind kelp]

Would need someone of Helms caliber to reign that in :p

[hollow lagoon]

Nah, need nyuta

Wonder what code

Prob water

Copium hope wind

Might derp out if electric/iron/fire

[umbral belfry]

ash f2p

[jagged mesa]

im fake f2p

$0.99 10 tickets goes hard

[umbral belfry]

[jagged mesa]

oh wait im actually fake f2p for real

i caved for cindy skin from mission pass

i almost forgot

[shell hazel]

I'm f2p along with hime

[jagged mesa]

damn im not f2p at all

and i was very tempted with the 40-rock pack too

this is my emergency go-to if i absolutely have to with these crazy banners

not even sure if this is a good deal but... you know

maybe a little christmas treat for myself if im dry for xmas banners

[shell hazel]

I think that was one of the best deals

in terms of pulls for spend

how many gems do you get in total for that one?

[jagged mesa]

10k i think?

33 pulls

i sense noah hiding in these 2 packages

[shell hazel]

that one is pretty awful

33 pulls worth of gems for $20 is much better

but I think the daily gems actually beats it ($5/month for 3300 gems?)

[jagged mesa]

does that campaign package stop at chapter 10

[shell hazel]

you can get it precisely twice

daily gems does beat it for value for money

[jagged mesa]

oh so i have a pocket 20k gems for emergency pulls

[shell hazel]

also some paid gems with that and you get enough of those you can do the special paid gem banner as may as well lmao

[jagged mesa]

the amount of regret i'd feel if i spent on that and dont get banner character out of it

[shell hazel]

imo yes it's not really worth target buying gems for a specific unit

it's going to lead you to despair instead

do you get the $5 daily 100 gem thing? that is truly the best one

[jagged mesa]

ill keep those options in my pocket for when im truly desperate (im close)

need to pull jill before banner ends

800 gold mileage saved for anni/xmas/new years

[wind kelp]

looks at 2025 stepup package still in inventory Ah, someone else has hidden cache's too 😄

[jagged mesa]

if i cant get jill, i may just splurge a bit on the last day

[shell hazel]

the step ups renew occasionally

I usually get those first couple of steps in rest is poor value

[wind kelp]

I meant the one we got as a gift at the start of year with 2025 gems inside 😄

[jagged mesa]

are step ups even worth it

[shell hazel]

is anything really worth it? 😄

[gaunt pulsar]

10 pull for 5, if you really desperate to pull standard banner

[shell hazel]

in truth nothing really is that worth it I just have some entertainment budget each month and so I can get some stuff

I'm just careful with what that is, mostly it's the daily stuff (gems/resource pack) and the skin packs

I avoid just outright buying gems or the silly expensive packs with like 40 rocks in

[jagged mesa]

wasnt that 40 rock package technically highest value

[gaunt pulsar]

just don't let the fomo win

[shell hazel]

problem is rocks can easily get you nothing

40 rocks can get burnt for 0 gain - so imo rocks are better just being farmed via kraken

[wind kelp]

I think i've gotten 3 outfits, maybe 20 1 buck ones as a treat for doing something like tower 500, and i think 2 of the first time ticket combos? Over 2.5 years it's barely a herring level. I always treat it as "supporting the dev" cash. Still oodles cheaper than any AAA game in cost/hour 😄

[jagged mesa]

how about the devs support me getting the units i want

[shell hazel]

yeah best thing is to not spend money you can't afford to throw away tbh

or have a better use for

[wind kelp]

Thyey've been very nice at supporting me with units tbf 😄 2.5 years, since re:zero, i have all units outside Jill and ofcourse the Chainsaw ones.

[shell hazel]

you just need to get lucky

think last year has been pretty harsh for banners, lots of re-runs (I started a year ago ish and miss the older units)

new limited summer pilgrim 1%

[wind kelp]

Yuup. And, well, farm quite a bit. Think i've played every day since i started 😄

[shell hazel]

nier and eva re-runs + new units

[jagged mesa]

double 1%s

[shell hazel]

6 summer units (or was it 8 inc s.ros and mary)?

[jagged mesa]

s. ros and s. sakura

8 RERUNS yes

[shell hazel]

yeah, we then had the 6 summer/winter unit re-run thing, and I needed 3 of em lol

[jagged mesa]

i missed xguillo and xmicah last year when i started too

[shell hazel]

it's not so bad if you had most already but as a new player, even as a spender, I had to avoid some banners

avoided new eunwha and emma

[wind kelp]

I do the same thing i do with every gacha; pull for everything, token/ticket the rest, hope for the best.

[shell hazel]

new vesti is now my 3rd highest cp unit lol

[jagged mesa]

1 ticket and a dream (noah)

[shell hazel]

I dislike pulling on empty feels bad just go to even more empty lol

but then I've had like 100 pulls of no ssr so not as if having pulls actually always helps

[wind kelp]

If you can pull only once, you'll be disappointed only once 😄

[shell hazel]

I have a good number of ord tickets and I just sit on them a while so for anni I can do a lot of pulls

[jagged mesa]

im going to do this the moment i get noah

until then, im spending all my tickets

[shell hazel]

I was missing noah for a while also

she just randomly showed up one day

how many pulls you done ashiun?

[jagged mesa]

cant check right now but i think around 4000

[shell hazel]

can see in here

200 social pulls also 😄

[jagged mesa]

wait i forgot about these

[shell hazel]

yeah I didn't buy the blue ones yet, so will be closer to 350 soon

[jagged mesa]

i have a shot tomorrow

[shell hazel]

jill banner does run for another 14 days as well

[jagged mesa]

higher chance than single pull jill

wait shoot, 14d as in just one day short of double SP arena rewards?

[shell hazel]

I'm waiting for the new pilgrims after NY probably

[jagged mesa]

lower chance for noah if i do wait

id rather mileage those units and try for a slightly higher rate of noah

[shell hazel]

right yes for you certainly

I have all pilgrims at least once (RH/SBS no dupes) so I prefer the new ones

[jagged mesa]

wait so am i gonna get 2 rounds of sp arena gems before jill ends

[shell hazel]

14d left unsure if spans another SPA

[jagged mesa]

or does it end the same day i get my next round of 3k gems

hmm

[shell hazel]

I don't know for sure

[jagged mesa]

theres solo raid too

[shell hazel]

yes some there

if you truly run out and banner is going you may need to mileage one

[jagged mesa]

trying my best to pull jill and mileage the 1%

might not have a choice if unable to pull her

[shell hazel]

yeah may as well keep pulling before then

as it's not a great use of the mileage

[jagged mesa]

ahh y'know what

im caving, im gonna disrupt the 10 tickets at once. im gonna buy 6 from event shop and try my luck

gonna look ugly but it is what it is

[shell hazel]

I can't even build jill anyway even though I have her

too busy working on my pvp and saving for new pilgrim

[jagged mesa]

christ i havent seen a gold in so long

ok i must stop now (not like i have a choice)

[shell hazel]

yeah 270 pulls I spent for 1 x ada and 1 x jill

it was way more expensive than I thought it would be

[jagged mesa]

oof

[shell hazel]

I was preparing for it for a while but it drained most of my pulls lol

[jagged mesa]

how many mileage you got saved up

[gritty ridge]

Aside from noise needing investment, is this team usable for CA?

[shell hazel]

not as much as some but should be plenty

[jagged mesa]

okay yeah same as me roughly

what did you spend you silver mileage on

[shell hazel]

Tove and Bay dupes a bit

I needed enough for fav item, Tove is still waiting though

my Noah is like C3 or C4 so I'm OK on just getting more as I can

[jagged mesa]

i was also considering tove dupes for power, but who knows what the next batch of treasures is gonna look like

[shell hazel]

right right, can just wait a bit and see if Noah magically appears also

[jagged mesa]

ffffffffffff i got an elysion on jill banner

my hopes dashed

[gritty ridge]

Rapi rh

[jagged mesa]

OH DOUBLE BACK TO BAK GOLD

GOT HERFINALLY

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/hyouka-yay-excited-happy-gif-5210402

discord was failing me there for a min

[jagged mesa]

D into jill, very fitting

oh my god i can start saving

LETS GOOO

now i want to see if trina jill does anything in pvp

[shell hazel]

I kind of doubt a bit

jill is too slow

this is looking more useful but I need to track if we have t9m and what level the gear is

[jagged mesa]

it was a double fakeout on the back to back D -> jill btw

what a play on my emotions

[shell hazel]

the phase is the value of the roll

but the actual value isn't shown here yet

[jagged mesa]

what api are you even using anyways

[shell hazel]

blabla

needs a token from the web

I think I could run this against anyone if I know their openid

and their nikke list isn't private

[fast nest]

What do you think of using clare for scarlet trina deck? Then Too low dps of scarlet?

Or since it is SR, she might not survive from vesti auto?

[jagged mesa]

jill doesnt seem that slow for burst gen for an AR actually

[shell hazel]

but she'll be fairly slow

i'm using Grok to write the script stuff btw, I know pretty well what I'm doing anyway but it makes it damn easier to adjust stuff

[fast nest]

At least, Clare may be able to counter soda and rosanna?

[shell hazel]

I don't think it's worth building Clare

[fast nest]

Scarlet is usually dead before b3 against vesti. I guessed clare may fill the gap because heal and shield.

Oh. There is Sora.

[jagged mesa]

nvm jill does seem to be pretty damn slow on burst gen

does anybody know what the icons bottom left mean exactly? the book, and what CS% the lightning is supposed to represent

[shell hazel]

there is a key top right I think

[jagged mesa]

oh!

why the multiple numbers though

is that for different xRL breakpoints

[shell hazel]

it's like min 15% but more is better

and for snipers 11% or more

[jagged mesa]

why bother listing the subsequent values then

[shell hazel]

nikke.work can be used to fine tune speeds better

[jagged mesa]

if it's already 11% for SR and 15% for cs

[shell hazel]

because more is generally good

[jagged mesa]

yeah im going to check out .work in a bit, but i just want to understand -deck first

[shell hazel]

yeah it's easier to see but work makes it better to actually grasp what changing the CS does

[jagged mesa]

i guess i dont understand the significance of 18% 21% and 25%

i vaguely remember reading it somewhere but i forget

[placid bloom]

each 3-4% extra is 1 frame faster, which matters a bit in the mirror

[jagged mesa]

i see

i wonder if there's a possible CS% breakpoint that noah can reach to avoid siren stun in p1 like ~33(?) bullet scarlet

[pale harness]

Can anyone help me build some teams for PvP?

[shell hazel]

there is and it's not just noah

[jagged mesa]

what's the % for RL to avoid siren stun p1

or assuming siren is p1/p2 on enemy team and you just taunt her

and i dont mean noise overriding taunt to take it

i mean straight up during the cover animation between shots

[sonic blade]

#pvp-arena message

[shell hazel]

this is where nikke.work comes in - you can see that the team bursts at 2RL

B1 is before the stun line

B2 happens after it

[jagged mesa]

im using it right now

but i dont mean bypass noah stun with teamwide speed

i mean literally just noah dodging siren stun from hiding in cover between shots

[shell hazel]

we need to move noah b2 to before the stun line

[jagged mesa]

yeah i mean dodging siren stun a la scarlet doding it by being in cover with less than 33 bullets

[shell hazel]

yeah OK I hear ya

but whilst I'm here, may as well show you that B2 noah at p1 can burst quick enough to avoid it anyway

but you need a fast team 11% CS on all batteries and 2RL

see how Noah b2 happens just before the stun line

[jagged mesa]

yeah that one im aware of

[shell hazel]

for your other question no not possible

noah default ammo is what 4? min?

[pale harness]

Unfortunately I don't have many of the characters required for those teams

[shell hazel]

1RL is 1 rocket fired, you're stunned before 3RL, so unless you get noah down to 2 ammo only you can't

scar is the only one I'm aware of who can just happen to dodge it in a meaningful way

[shell hazel]

Neon on SR doll 😮

[jagged mesa]

i dont mean reload cover though

i mean between rocket charges

[shell hazel]

no because that only works due to reload

[pale harness]

I'm new, I had no idea what I was doing lmao

[shell hazel]

haha, be sparing with dolls and doll upgrades because they are rare

best to use on campaign meta units initially

[jagged mesa]

between each rocket launcher shot there're a couple frames where they cover

i guess im just wondering if there's an EXACT CS% that lines up that cover animation with 196F

[sonic blade]

then u will need to mix and match ur units with them.. and unfortunately u will suffer against those teams that has those specific nikkes..

just the way it is..

[shell hazel]

I've not heard of anyone doing that successfully

[pale harness]

Appreciate the advice, any of the units I have should be next?

[shell hazel]

just focus pve/campaign for now Flupty

you can use them in pvp too, power/levels/progress matters the most

siren should be upgraded she is meta b1

for dolls use blue dolls first

and the blue doll upgrade materials

try and keep purple and ssr materials for the push from SR-5 onwards

when you have a blue doll at R-15 and you swap it over to a purple one it becomes SR-5 straight away

only use the elite kits after you get to SR-6 or SR-11, they're too rare to waste anywhere else

[spare nimbus]

bruh nikke.work ain't loading for me 😭

[shell hazel]

it's about 200 or so blue materials to get from R-0 to R-15 usually, can be less/more with luck

[pale harness]

I managed to upgrade Ein's doll

[shell hazel]

don't push everyone to SR-15 as well it's not worth it for all, main DPS should be the priority for that

support units like Grave won't really need it

[spare nimbus]

nah sr15 everyone for cp diff

[pale harness]

It's a phase 11

[shell hazel]

you'll run low sooner or later probably got some from drake event

I need to upgrade my xanne at some point

[pale harness]

Yeah I'm low on beginner maint kits

[umbral belfry]

I appreciate the amount of purple kits you have

[pale harness]

Cindy's doll at Phase 7 rn

[jagged mesa]

old video but i just noticed something (i was trying to count frames for RL cover)

how come my siren stunned their siren before their siren could stun my scarlet

[shell hazel]

nice

attacker siren gets advantage in anti-siren

[pale harness]

How do I upgrade from Rookie?

[jagged mesa]

interesting

[spare nimbus]

u don't lol

it is called rookie arena

[shell hazel]

rookie arena is permanent special arena is the main one

[shell hazel]

it's incredibly situational, basically relies on opponent putting siren at p1 lol

[spare nimbus]

It’s simply the name

[pale harness]

Should I push ranks?

[spare nimbus]

Of what

[pale harness]

either

[shell hazel]

you get 2 free tries of SPA per day

don't worry about it beyond trying to use them for now

@oblique gyro stole my spot 1 in rookie

[spare nimbus]

I have a whale on my rookie arena who also has his alt account in there as well, he attacks himself on that alt so he can keep p1 😭

[shell hazel]

ah rookie is kind of meaningless anyway just a place to mess about

[spare nimbus]

He also has his alt account in my sp 😭

[serene oar]

Trying to take down a team in SP arena. Do you think it's possible to use SRs to knock out his P5 jackal before he gets his burst and win that way? Or is that a bad way to try to win?

[spare nimbus]

1st and 6th are the same person

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-duckling-no-no-way-i-dont-agree-gif-4243311

[spare nimbus]

U will probably just feed him more

[shell hazel]

that's a 2RL scar, if you have 2RL noah or bay you can win

[serene oar]

I don't have Noah yet. I have Bay, just have never used her.

[shell hazel]

she works without any build but may tank your cp some

[umbral crown]

I would

[spare nimbus]

is siren+scarlet strong enough to wipe bay?

[shell hazel]

also you absolutely need 2RL still lol

[spare nimbus]

idk how to 3/3 this

[serene oar]

Somewhere online I can find examples of 2rl bay teams? Still not totally sure how this all works.

[shell hazel]

you could siren stun the scar if they have bricked ammo but it forces alice to b3

bricked ammo = more than 32 ammo

[shell hazel]

quite expensive

[gritty ridge]

I was talking with a trusted smart person, and apparently 32 ammo may not be safe in CA

[shell hazel]

jackal will feed the missing 5% to 2RL

[shell hazel]

never seen 32 get stunned yet

[gritty ridge]

P5 siren is my only concern

[spare nimbus]

what happens with p5 siren

[gritty ridge]

Closest she can get to p1, positioning matters

P3 siren can stun p1 siren

[shell hazel]

could try ros nuke the scar

[serene oar]

Ah, yeah I have all those but maiden ice.

[shell hazel]

would need another b3 then, someone with decent gen

you could skip on biscuit as you have jackal

[spare nimbus]

who would I swap then

cause that third team is barely 2rl

[shell hazel]

could try full sg + ros comp

breaks jackal link at 1RL, everyone nukes scar

[spare nimbus]

ok will give it a try eventually, the guy is back in diamond so I will probably have to wait a few days

even then, that's the only time he attacked me this season

[shell hazel]

if you can get the other 2 then you can play with 3rd one

[gritty ridge]

Can u buff rosa at all?

[shell hazel]

would need an off-burst buffer as she is b1

[serene oar]

What website is this? I may need to play around on this to understand more.

[gritty ridge]

Helm is abt the only one that comes to mind

[shell hazel]

if you have lapT she's better than drake here

[shell hazel]

helm is with vesti can't move off easily

https://nikke-deck.web.app/ - for the site

Jackal will feed you relatively well to 2RL as long as it's 90% or more 2RL, against most opponent teams

give jackal quantum though

I dislike drake as the main flex unit as she can suicide on scar counters

[gritty ridge]

Actually, I just got an idea to move my spa teams around and maybe improve them

[shell hazel]

you mainly want some burst gen flex that doesn't feed

[gritty ridge]

Hippo ill be using you to check if they're better after or not

[spare nimbus]

for some reason, my university's wifi blocks nikke.work lol

[serene oar]

Thank you for being so helpful. I appreciate it.

[shell hazel]

I'm heading off soon

[shell hazel]

problem is HelmT is too expensive to burn here

you may need her elsewhere

is an option

assuming your lapT is ready

if you want to skip jackal you can try to settle on a 2.5RL

look at ma boy pascal go lmao

ignore quantum on noise - it's just remembered it

[gritty ridge]

I dont have enough lap dupes, also click the cs on vesti

[shell hazel]

more cs only speeds her up a bit

this is no CS set at all

[gritty ridge]

It increases total gen

[shell hazel]

it does but these values are without any

if you have like 15% CS on vesti we can check it

[gritty ridge]

Old teams

New teams

[gritty ridge]

Yeah thats how much I have

[shell hazel]

shame you lack LapT 🙂

you'll have to play about with it some, can go with noise/noah/vesti core

[gritty ridge]

Any thoughts on new teams vs old?

[shell hazel]

I'd throw HelmT elsewhere though

[spare nimbus]

wait so was tlaplace's burst gen bugged before?

[shell hazel]

it's better now yeah it's noah level basically

[shell hazel]

your scar is too slow you need another flex battery not siren

or you run siren instead of RH alongside another battery

[spare nimbus]

oh wow it's even better than xmaiden now

[shell hazel]

yeah a little 🙂

[gritty ridge]

Yeah i was originally gonna run scar siren standard but I realized Id need helm for that, ill just stick with the old teams then

I only have 3 batteries with good cp atm

[shell hazel]

you should be able to 2RL with scar trina (rh/siren/rosa) flex jackal

but if you try and RH and siren it will be like 2.5RL at best

your t3 is like "hello I have food to feed you" lol

[spare nimbus]

is noise with tempering better than hp cupe?

[shell hazel]

yeah I'd run noise with tempering usually as she is tanking as well

[spare nimbus]

ok

she is also core 7 which is nice

who should I take off tempering lol, i have noah scar soda and besti on there

i only have 4 slots rn

[gritty ridge]

Yeah i definitely dont have the units for 3 full teams yet

[shell hazel]

I don't use on besti give her bastion instead

[gritty ridge]

Im gonna run these then

[spare nimbus]

oh shoot i completely forgot my besti needed bastion 💀

hopefully that wasn't the reason I was losing some defense battles

she needs 22 ammo correct?

[north brook]

Give soda hp cube prob, doesnt take as much dmg

[shell hazel]

2 x ammo rolls or +100% ish

[spare nimbus]

she has 113%

[shell hazel]

mine has 16 ammo, with bastion on that extends a little

[north brook]

Honestly if she needs more than 16 sth going wrong

[shell hazel]

for indom it can be useful having more than 16

[north brook]

Or its indom mirror

[spare nimbus]

Which cubes should I put on which?

[north brook]

Most of the time vs any non vesti indom she blows up the normal indom unit and leaves blanc giving rumani indom so nothing dies

The ones u have tempering on are already ideal i think

[shell hazel]

I have 16 ammo and it gets +3 with bastion so her 5th volley only has 3 rockets in

[spare nimbus]

wait maybe i can replace emi with mihara?

[north brook]

Give cindy hp cube also

[spare nimbus]

if they run a scar team it can possibly kill

[shell hazel]

surely emi is better here for extra splash and speed?

[spare nimbus]

yeah

2rl team if I have cs on everyone, and emi 25%

[north brook]

And put emi p4 btw otherwise p5 pressure can kill her before nuke

[shell hazel]

yeah no chance mihara swap is a good idea there

[cunning crown]

manifesting a good ammo roll on this semi-built midget before next CA

[shell hazel]

yeah it's recommended. I'm on 91% odd but it seems to still be 16

just means with first bastion ammo up it's 19 rockets total fired before reload

[north brook]

Ammo rolls do round like cs does i think

[shell hazel]

got some decent vesti rolls myself Zael

[spare nimbus]

this is what my team looks like rn

[shell hazel]

am a bit confused about the purpose of cindy in last team beyond looking pretty though lmao

[spare nimbus]

i wanna get cs on noise as well but then that just means noah will get stunned

[spare nimbus]

idk I just copied someone else's team from here

[north brook]

Cindy always gets the hp convert when team goes fbt

[cunning crown]

juicy rolls

[shell hazel]

yeah was happy with them 🙂

[cunning crown]

took a gamble on locking atk here and got lucky

[north brook]

So in noah mirrors her autos still nuke the fullest

[shell hazel]

just line 2 lock and got cs on line 3?

[covert lintel]

[shell hazel]

am not done with mine but it's good enough for now I feel

I have to keep some rocks for new pilgrim and such

[raven plover]

you guys have roks?

[spare nimbus]

the one up here

[shell hazel]

some

[spare nimbus]

something like cindy just tanking sniper shots + being last alive usually

[spare nimbus]

me with 2 💀

[cunning crown]

[north brook]

Ya those mine, think do note kinda depends what ur opps running if helm burst or cindy is better

[spare nimbus]

it worked a couple times

[shell hazel]

new colour!

[spare nimbus]

woah

finally omg

[north brook]

If they have nero moran built u want cindy bursting

[covert lintel]

No wonder their review for jill is late
They're lazy cause jill bad

[north brook]

I think shes prob better than they say for bossing, but just same rank as ein

Mbe its down a peg because ein is usable in missilis tower and good specifically for mirror container

Kinda crazy adas the stronger unit all around tho

[shell hazel]

improved this one a little more as well

shame it's not above 4.5% CS but dunno how much I want to burn, it's better atk and cs than before

[north brook]

Id just try for breakpoints so u dont need adjutant to fix it if needed

[shell hazel]

it's 9% atm

I think it's OK, vesti isn't necessarily needing specific CS in my view anyway, and would work with 0% CS or 20%

[north brook]

Rn its mostly for syncing her shots, later prob will want it for burst gen thresholds

[shell hazel]

I don't do the sync shot thing

or worry about it too much, feels like they could just patch that out anyway

and I don't have emi (nor in my brackets) and that seems like the best value for it

[north brook]

Ya true, think other main one to do it with is laplace

[shell hazel]

they do happen to line up one sync shot but it's by pure chance tbh

oh actually 4th also

[covert lintel]

Just 18+ cs for vesti

[shell hazel]

I was more planning to use for general content so happy with just some CS this 9% is fine

I'll see how she gets on in next CA, she should be better than before with more atk and such

the next one I really want to fix is giving my HelmT a bit more CS tbh, it's just another fairly costly one to do so may save up again

need to lock the atk on helm and try to get CS on line 1 or 2

the helm for Helm lol

[covert lintel]

I see vesti similar to helmT
The faster she shoots the easier any content will be

[shell hazel]

that is true but it's a matter of resources I think

I'd prefer to get more CS for my batteries as well

[nimble swan]

Heyy,
can you explain why doesn’t matter if it’s 0 or 20%? It can be deciding factor of being 0.5RL diff as far as I’m aware?

[shell hazel]

she works good in any case, I don't typically rely on her burst gen to hit 2RL or w/e

[north brook]

Changes the frames

[shell hazel]

and it's hard to do so because likely she'll only get a couple of shots in before 2RL

[nimble swan]

Oh I see

[severe tundra]

Is there a chart of fastest meter generation characters

[north brook]

Note tho diff units, mag rls, and clip rls, and snipers, have different timings

[shell hazel]

the order of the units in https://nikke-deck.web.app/ is fastest first usually

[severe tundra]

Thank you

[shell hazel]

it's why I think just having some CS is fine anyway

[north brook]

So u want to check the actual timeline to see what unit is filling the bar, and whether more cs helps

[shell hazel]

yeah, sometimes also like with stall team with HelmT, her CS is basically the only one that matters

other units having loads or none won't necessarily change your speed

but give HelmT 25% CS and you go brrr

[north brook]

Unfortunately its a lot more complicated than just get x% cs on every unit in team to burst faster

[shell hazel]

I doubt my helmT will ever get that much CS btw 😄

It would be expensive to roll my CS lines

[nimble swan]

Nikke.work is accurate more or less, isn’t it?

[shell hazel]

ye

[north brook]

Ya thats best way to see

[nimble swan]

I check there against different comps lately

My Vesti 15% CS

Helm 13 %

[north brook]

Tbh what i said is prob the reason it was made, there are lots of factors that minutely change the numbers and frame timings

[shell hazel]

good to see how various things work

[umbral belfry]

you mean 21 cs

[covert lintel]

21 is for whale

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

🐋

[umbral belfry]

you either go all in for vesti cs or little

[nimble swan]

Is there pvp (or pve) optimal ammo for Helm?

[umbral belfry]

maybe it's different for pve, but pvp any ammo amount is fine for her p sure. I just wouldn't say it's a super important stat for helm

[nimble swan]

Hmm ok then, mine is pretty similar to Hippo’s

[umbral belfry]

[umbral crown]

[jagged mesa]

i wish i had another attempt for today

i want to try my helm CS% and see if i can dodge siren stun by the brief cover between shots

i dug up an older video and it looks like im a frame or two off

imagine a p1 noah situation with the perfect cs% to just dodge siren stun with that brief cover with no additional help from noise or whatever

[umbral crown]

use 100 gems

[umbral crown]

finish your dailies

or force your weeklies

[umbral crown]

advice then

or the final resource

[jagged mesa]

[umbral crown]

tomorrow then, we gonna get 3k from sp

unless your not in top 3

[jagged mesa]

yeah i can start saving now that i finally got jill with 17 gems left

3k tomorrow, 1.4k(?) ish from SR

[umbral crown]

i will get 700 from SR

[jagged mesa]

not an SR enjoyer?

[umbral crown]

nope, i skip

i just do SR for the kits

my pve is bricked

thats the real reason

i give everything to pvp

[nimble swan]

Is this your only account?

[umbral crown]

yeah

[nimble swan]

It’s my first gacha so didn’t have a clue for quite a few things in the beginning

Pvp seemed like rocket science lol

[umbral crown]

not my first gacha tho

but you know, before pvp was fun but after while people just do not hit me anymore

[nimble swan]

Who would dare to hit quiry anyway

[umbral crown]

but but

[nimble swan]

I still haven’t changed my defense, that Zerokill bro gave up attacking me after one day

Probably thought I can’t break his defense when he takes c2?

[oblique gyro]

sorry buddy

won't stay there for long, my def is easy to pass for others

[umbral crown]

just keep stealing, i would

[covert lintel]

[umbral crown]

thats the way

[vapid lake]

That still very funny idk why

[crystal flicker]

I haven't touch Rookie (and SP) for a week already lol

Nobody wants to attack me in Rookie, and SP just investment wall for avg player

[gritty ridge]

Ill attack you

[umbral crown]

i would

[tropic summit]

i would too

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

[gritty ridge]

Do you happen to have an idea of when my username got kicked down to the base?

They took my wife out of my name

[umbral crown]

[gritty ridge]

Yeah my name doesn't say "Miranda's husbant" anymore

[umbral crown]

just add it again

[gritty ridge]

Im going to, I just wanna know the perpetrator

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squidward-hash-slinging-slasher-night-shift-gif-6090408256404849299

[gritty ridge]

Wait

I think im the reason my nickname got reset

Im dumb

[umbral crown]

You pressed: reset name