#pvp-arena

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fresh onyx
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what is the best resources for pvp? pryden seems outdated

oak hatch
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Would these teams be good on attack too?

tropic summit
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those teams would be situationally good or not

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e.g. you want to avoid using scarlet against an enemy noah on same or faster speed

oak hatch
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Oh I see, are there any resources where I can see which characters counter which?

open jewel
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Is there a list of meta team comps for sp arena so I can have an idea on who to put together? adedizzy

tropic summit
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i'd say these are the 4 most common archetypes you should get familiar with

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not all nikke used in the vids are strictly necessary to achieve the archetype, although some are core parts of them

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notably: helmT, jackal, biscuit, noah, scarlet, trina, rumani, centi, blanc can play as core

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other units may be subbed with less optimal but still good

tropic summit
glad meteor
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Is the cn vs dorimine? In ca

oak hatch
tropic summit
ivory violet
glad meteor
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hmmz i see

ivory violet
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Are you betting on that one too? I think overall Dorimine takes it

glad meteor
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Iโ€™m checking right now again

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Doromine pov imo
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W
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RNG, favoured dorimine

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His sg team should technically win sadge

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CN need to clutch 3/5 to stand a chance, he can win in 1/4

ivory violet
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I think dorimine wins the first 4 matches and has a high chance of losing the last one, unless he gets the 1/10 scenarios where soda stuns laplace and emilia

umbral crown
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Lowest hp

ivory violet
tropic summit
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for those that didn't get particular changes/reshuffle in their bracket, if the top players are all active, chances are less likely, although you can get isekaied if active players start quitting

tropic summit
raven plover
tropic summit
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toss a dice surely

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natural 1: instantly shuffle 3 whels

swift mango
umbral crown
umbral crown
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C2 forever dogfine

umbral crown
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@midnight marsh my friendo, ho you doing? Did you get isekaied to another CA brcket?

keen vapor
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@hoary maple when are you going to get back your Blanc unsirenable team TimiLook or can I use it first?

-# I can't

umbral crown
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Just vesti her

minor pier
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viennaNotes oh i gotta build her. neat~

keen vapor
midnight marsh
umbral crown
umbral crown
midnight marsh
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I'm in a CA with multi-time winners. (The win for last season's winner was his 2nd win. He's back in the finals this season. I'm fighting him in the finals today but I'm probably going to lose. So he might get 3rd win this season OMEGALUL)

umbral crown
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the highest i fought this season was a 556 sync

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waos, he has interesting teams?

midnight marsh
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Let me check. I think his are mostly standard.

umbral crown
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i imagine

midnight marsh
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I know that JP/CA is picking up a new team that has Cinderella Blanc Mihara

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but this guy didn't go for it

umbral crown
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yeah, team is strong against nero teams, scar soda trina

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i went with this team this season and also tunning scar trina mast jackal

midnight marsh
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ooooooooo

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ok, his name is Yrotciv (Victory spelled backwards):

Bay - Biscuit - Vesti - Maiden - Rumani
Scarlet - Trina - RH - Anis - Centi
Noise - Jackal - Noah - S.Anis - Ada
Viper - Soda - Blanc - Rosy - Drake```
umbral crown
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for next season im thinking to go with some new cooks and better positioning for blanc mihara cindy

midnight marsh
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Oh nvm, his teams are very interesting. I'm DEFINITELY losing.

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๐Ÿ˜‚

umbral crown
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owo

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i foughr a similar team 5 like that and for my surprise i won last season with my sg in mirror

midnight marsh
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Ooooooo think

umbral crown
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check this

midnight marsh
umbral crown
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do not know how those c7 units died that fast

midnight marsh
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haha nice nice

umbral crown
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today my nero team, laplace version lost to the RH version

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confus first time i see my nero team losing a mirror

midnight marsh
umbral crown
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my nero died like 1 sec before bursting

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in 2nd rotation

midnight marsh
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oh yeah I've been out of the loop for a while (Umamusume took over my life hahaha). What's the deal with the RH version? What is the exact comp? I've seen it with biscuit(?) not sure

swift mango
umbral crown
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the key is to let RH do B1-B3 to clean the rest of the enemy units

midnight marsh
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Choco_Think wao I see hmmmm

umbral crown
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but for that rapu P5

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im just gonna keep re cooking to win next season, i already have my cook ready, just giving some ajustments and skill investment

midnight marsh
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NekoCheer nice nice

umbral crown
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yeah, with these bois is mandatory to get some new cooks to win

gritty ridge
umbral crown
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is a friendo

gritty ridge
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Shame

swift mango
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I cheated I used 23 pull on Ada banner so it was actually 87. BurninKek

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55 pulls farmed today for 1 Ada dupe. ShiftyDed

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110 pulls 3 SSR

raven plover
covert lintel
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Soon will be liberio's timeCrownHUH

raven plover
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or whatever the mode called BurninKek

covert lintel
raven plover
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I mean she could be like nihi xdd

swift mango
swift mango
covert lintel
swift mango
swift mango
keen vapor
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You still have to match me shrug
Pull more

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Wait, my math is wrong FrimaSleep already done

swift mango
keen vapor
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Except for those 28 vouchers on Ada before pulling for Jill

swift mango
keen vapor
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So, I wasted abnormal vouchers before Jill

keen vapor
keen vapor
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You're close prayge

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To hit big

mystic wind
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Any team advice to beat him?

keen vapor
keen vapor
mystic wind
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If it's worth

keen vapor
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pepehmmm tbf, shouldn't be really needed

keen vapor
# mystic wind

What are Noise skills, both sides investment seems abnormally low susge

mystic wind
keen vapor
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Not low really huh?

mystic wind
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Full overload ofc with 2 cs line

keen vapor
keen vapor
mystic wind
keen vapor
# mystic wind

Why you thought I recommended Blanc team against Rosanna

keen vapor
mystic wind
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Ah frick

keen vapor
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-# Clearly my fault for overlooking that part

mystic wind
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I did it now

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I won, thanks

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Then can u help me build my deff also, i have everyone except new vestiKEKW

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I don't mind investing in anyone include their doll or treasure

keen vapor
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No new Vesti sadge

keen vapor
mystic wind
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Noah full overload

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Scarlett 4 max ammo 1 atk

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All s tier pvp nikke i have them on overload

keen vapor
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Max ammo Doropression

fast nest
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scarlet 4ammo..

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easy target by siren's stun.

upper harbor
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With Vesti can a spread of 2 lines of CS and 2 lines of ammo be enough in PVP? Leaving ele and atk for the 2 other spots. (e.g atk/ele/cs or atk/ele/ammo)

quick lake
thin abyss
primal charm
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Why need that much

mystic wind
keen vapor
mystic wind
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Woof

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I have poli with treasure, she's useless except for champion arena?

keen vapor
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Maybe Noise instead of Moran better
But at that point be sure Noah has more charge speed than noise

keen vapor
livid marsh
swift mango
leaden canyon
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third round is a gamble

swift mango
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If they chose to rerun Makima in the middle of this event I would be so pissed that I would just ticket one copy of her and quit this game.

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I think they are putting a fake rate on limited units on flagged accounts like mine. It's always 1% rate up not 2%. Pilgrim would be a bit easier to get than limited unit.

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For now I would stop spending more than minimum time on this game this game. And use my time on better things than being a brick.

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With my luck and 3-4 Collab a year, I could only save for Collab and nothing else.

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Pilgrim, winter, new year, summer. All trashed.

brazen nova
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Its been a week of me and this bro battling adedizzy

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Manage to make him using his gem, then c5 kinda useless now lol

covert lintel
leaden canyon
shell hazel
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nero DR > Bay anti-nuke here

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DrakeT is just shooting your Nero and shouldn't be lethal

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only thing I'm not sure on is if they're faster than you and therefore helm could snipe your helm

shell hazel
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CS can make a difference here I think on who bursts first

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I'd like your odds but wait for Rail to confirm is not a bad idea also ๐Ÿ™‚

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It's not a team I've faced either

leaden canyon
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oh what

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it didn't save

shell hazel
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I mean helm gets res anyway by rapu on next run around

leaden canyon
shell hazel
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that isn't usually fatal, but bay does damage share

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so vesti may be good anyway

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it does remove your vesti from the other team though

leaden canyon
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can try this

shell hazel
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probably at deficit

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wait for Rail prayge

leaden canyon
livid marsh
leaden canyon
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Switched to this

tropic summit
# leaden canyon does this win?

T1 is fine unless rosanna is stacked enough to 1hitKO full HP SBS
T2 generally nero moran stall deals better against non nero moran bay variant, because bay does not fully stack DR, while nero does.

the first trade will be resulting your helmT dying, should revive afterward and out trade

T3 depending on sacc working as intended, you wipe with vestiTU, leaving only defenders alive

leaden canyon
tropic summit
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well vestiTU/laplace can work as flex, with vesti giving you potentially better 2nd burst cycle

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ada indom should work although she has to dig through 2 stacks of biscuit

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an AoE indom like RRH/vestiTU could work better

leaden canyon
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alrighty

tropic summit
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instead of SBS i mean

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won't be targetted as xmaiden is not an attacker

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we did this before with Hippo

leaden canyon
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she has no attack overloads, but lots of ele

tropic summit
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hmm stick with SBS then

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i didn't check for deficit tho, i'm assuming you're not

leaden canyon
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RRH on rapi team needs helm

leaden canyon
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its like 14.92

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its like 15 something thats deficit right?

tropic summit
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14,92% should be fine pain

shell hazel
leaden canyon
shell hazel
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but my xmaiden is SR-15 7/10/7 at least

leaden canyon
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mines 10/10/10

shell hazel
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xmaiden doesn't need much to just smash scarlet once the nuke is caught

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just need 2RL with noah or bay and an attacker to eat the ros nuke

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beating the scar team should be easy enough

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I ran this feeds to 2RL

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vesti may get killed or not by ros but shouldn't matter, noah blocks nuke and xmaiden will clean up

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if you have helmT available you can lower the other battery requirements a bit

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just need something that gets to 2RL really and includes bay or noah, this version if bay but noah also works here

tropic summit
shell hazel
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I'd say aim to take on one of the other two teams with a reliable winning comp then see what you can run for the scar team that maintains the 2RL bay/noah

leaden canyon
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can do this, blanc and jackal survive right?

leaden canyon
tropic summit
shell hazel
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your SBS might get chewed up by ros

tropic summit
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a tad riskier then

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put linked unit in p1 instead?

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whoever is unlinked in p4, blanc p3

leaden canyon
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Vesti and drake linked

shell hazel
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is your xmaiden low cp vs sbs?

leaden canyon
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yes

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I'm in deficit with her

shell hazel
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not convinced that team can win think sbs ๐Ÿ‘‹

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but it depends how confident you are with the others

leaden canyon
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as long as I quantum cube team 1 enough its 2RL, thats enough right?

tropic summit
shell hazel
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LapT new target ofc

leaden canyon
shell hazel
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ros will snipe at lapT before you b3

tropic summit
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although if noise is in the equation and on same speed, it's mitigated

shell hazel
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she might survive but it's a bit rng

leaden canyon
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LapT has more health than sbs so she has a better chance at surviving

shell hazel
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iron is weak to ele?

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I never remember what is weak to what lol

leaden canyon
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Electric is strong against water lol

shell hazel
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makes sense

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it may work, but do you think one of the other two teams wins OK?

leaden canyon
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t2 wins

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Actually would t2 be able to block scarlet blanc hood trina jackal

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I feel like thats too much for bay to block

shell hazel
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bay will block if she's same speed

leaden canyon
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damn she can block tripple buff scar?

shell hazel
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if she has cover she blocks stuff basically

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bay is anti nuke for scar it's why I suggested it before ๐Ÿ™‚

leaden canyon
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welp idk what to do, I'll just throw one of these at it

shell hazel
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well record/see what happens is useful

leaden canyon
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<@&946725432554836008>

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its in every channel it looks like

shell hazel
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did you win @leaden canyon ?

leaden canyon
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fingers crossed it works

midnight marsh
umbral belfry
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waiting for nekoworki's message ModCheck

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@shell hazel the pig got turned into bacon

shell hazel
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let me at em

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๐Ÿท

umbral belfry
shell hazel
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tenshi? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

umbral belfry
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so like 3?? time winner now

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hippo I'm in na ๐Ÿ˜ญ

shell hazel
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you have tenshi also maybe

umbral belfry
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stronger tenshi prolly

shell hazel
umbral belfry
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I'm just happy being in top 8 again

daring remnant
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I finally won a CA Blancyay

umbral belfry
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McChamp Blancyay

shell hazel
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a pie wins pepehmmm

umbral belfry
amber ruin
shell hazel
umbral belfry
amber ruin
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Look my pfpDoro Doro

daring remnant
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๐Ÿฅง

amber ruin
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I never like play pvp,isnt it bad?

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I just like play pve

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My team look like this Doro Doro

umbral belfry
leaden canyon
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<@&946725432554836008>

quasi sluice
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@unique mountain Who win i didn't login to game

shell hazel
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I won 30h of credit boxes Doro

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and just top 16 otherwise ๐Ÿ™‚

glad glade
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Finally got both cheer frames. Iโ€™m finally free

shell hazel
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nice nice!

umbral belfry
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@valid inlet YIPPPPPPPPPPPIEEEEEE

drowsy quest
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Can I get some help building teams?

fast nest
quick lake
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Congrats poggies

fathom rock
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@umbral belfry dpx win?

umbral belfry
fathom rock
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I would've got frame if I didn't vote j sadge

umbral belfry
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dpx was the clear winner Sadge you voted against him?

fathom rock
shell hazel
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@hollow lagoon

umbral belfry
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@dense kindle Sadge

fathom rock
umbral belfry
shell hazel
fathom rock
shell hazel
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woke up felt cute

umbral belfry
hollow lagoon
fast nest
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Tyty

small hatch
small hatch
dense kindle
dense kindle
umbral crown
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@terse dragon hi, you won again?

terse dragon
umbral crown
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Waos

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Congrats

terse dragon
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thanks

placid bloom
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10 champion frame poggies

umbral crown
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11

placid bloom
umbral crown
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Bro too strong

placid bloom
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path to 30 frame poggies

umbral crown
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Wanna be like him when i grow up

pliant inlet
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@mystic rain @swift mango @tropic summit @keen vapor @covert lintel @fast nest Thanks a ton for the help guys. I finally managed to get that frame thanks to you! Also here are the results of the matches if you're curious which teams actually won. AliceLove

umbral crown
covert lintel
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I thought it was a scammer pingingKEKW

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So left win
I was wrongadedizzy

keen vapor
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Perfect victory

covert lintel
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But i was right the team 4 right side winhmmz

fast nest
pliant inlet
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At the end of the day it was left that won, either way

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So everyone that bet on left cheers!

umbral belfry
umbral crown
river dune
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Can I take this guy out with this team?

keen vapor
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You need Siren

tropic summit
tropic summit
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pick whichever you've better invested

keen vapor
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Or just Siren it Angy

tropic summit
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don't assume enemy teams aren't siren resistant, especially with multiple clip RL tier units

keen vapor
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I'll always assume it first from lower synch Angy

tropic summit
river dune
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Real a guy that I have been beating consistently suddenly after getting Siren became unbeatable KEKW

keen vapor
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No one builds CS on biscuit

tropic summit
keen vapor
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Just Scar Siren everyone Angy

tropic summit
wild hemlock
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@valid inlet Grats, I don't think any amount of investment would have flipped any of these matches for me pretty sure so I have no complaints dorosunglasses

covert lintel
tropic summit
covert lintel
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Change to emi?

tropic summit
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default 2RL indom vesti

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since it's a water code linked s.anis, you could mirror s.anis to out trade

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e.g.

noah trina biscuit s.anis jackal

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you hit their link on ele%, they hit no ele advantage

cyan scroll
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think this is winnable? jackal is costing a lot now

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wrong one

tropic summit
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multiply enemy CP (301k) x 0.846 to find out the minimun required CP to not be hit by penalty above

cyan scroll
tropic summit
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you'll want to be at least 3RL or 3.5RL

cyan scroll
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my centi takes off a lot of points but maybe let me check

tropic summit
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s.anis slaughtered your link

tropic summit
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show your box, maybe you not using some obvious tools

cyan scroll
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i have great tools that will put me into dead to stats

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but i guess i have one tool

covert lintel
cyan scroll
tropic summit
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show your box maybe you don't needa commit

tropic summit
cyan scroll
tropic summit
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remove helmT from link or sub her

tropic summit
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can change the strat

cyan scroll
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the biscuit costs more than jackal sadly

covert lintel
tropic summit
tropic summit
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else just change strat, invest issue

covert lintel
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I think i need 20 ammo firstpepehmmm
It's only 16 atm

tropic summit
cyan scroll
tropic summit
cyan scroll
tropic summit
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nope still KO

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oke yolo setup needed i see

tropic summit
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@cyan scroll this one should do, show le CP

cyan scroll
tropic summit
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holy f your jackal adedizzy

cyan scroll
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the woes of not investing

tropic summit
cyan scroll
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i could in theory give her a gear piece

tropic summit
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try one last time the above

cyan scroll
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sadly i only just pulled red hood

tropic summit
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haha ridicolous ok

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go invest jackal and you're gud

fast nest
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Too much cp gap

tropic summit
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prioritize your campaign and kraken team anyway

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once that's done get jackal up to speed and you've a chance

fast nest
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Whats ur main stage squad's cp?

cyan scroll
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yeah im at the point i just dont think it matters to take first off this guy

tropic summit
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but you can strike him once you're invested so don't worry

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just a matter of time thumbsup

cyan scroll
fast nest
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What is his stage and your stage currently?

cyan scroll
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hes got mermaid there is no way hes not further

fast nest
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Good. you are at higher stage. Just time matter.

cyan scroll
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he could push at any time though

fast nest
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But he didnt.

cyan scroll
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300k squad of that

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literally my box but strictly better

fast nest
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Yes. He was supposed to pushed by around 32-x stage but he didnt. It means he dont want to push red cp stage.

cyan scroll
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even i can push further i have just been savoring it a bit since crown came home ive been blasting the campaign

fast nest
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Right now ur core dust' efficiency is way better than him. Just focus on stage thingy for now.

cyan scroll
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yeah ill eat the what like 10 tickets lost from getting 2nd and just continue to swole up my box

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i like jackal a lot though so shes gone get invested eventually anyway

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and centi too for that matter

glad glade
wicked horizon
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Got it cocoathumb

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Can't even show it off 'cause I got a partcipation frame instead.

tropic summit
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frame that attests you've missed out on x5 credit box rewards

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i still find it curious how ppl want to go for that over credits

fast nest
river dune
wicked horizon
wicked horizon
valid inlet
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My trio won Mihara Cindy team twice this season 2W 1L

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Super surprised CrownHUH

umbral belfry
swift mango
valid inlet
valid inlet
umbral belfry
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I'm trying NoahCry

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I got top 8 again this season

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being with the toddlers now instead of full babies is CrownHUH

valid inlet
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Itโ€™s ok I wasnโ€™t even top 64 KEKW

umbral belfry
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it's okay bc you made up for it winning this ca Doro

valid inlet
umbral belfry
wild hemlock
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I did think I was going to win that matchup actually but didn't notice blanc not getting indom at all. Didn't think it was possible she would get 1 tapped and not get biscuit skill DoroLostinThoughts

gritty ridge
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Yall think its worth dumping more rocks into her right now?

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Or should I start dumping into vesti

north brook
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does she oneshot ppl at your sync easily? if yes, get other units some invest

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tbh she doesnt need that much with her big self atk buff and trina, very optimal only needed at very high lvl sync

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mbe would only reroll the stats on that 3rd piece to get avgish numbers

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it prob doesnt need more just for pvp tho, making the ele decent would be more for making her usable for sr

shell hazel
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@tropic summit after all this time my opponent set new teams but frankly I think they are weaker than before lol

mystic rain
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oh it is

gritty ridge
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She oneshots at deficit with single buff

hollow lagoon
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@shell hazel so close to perfection

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all weapon slots filled

shell hazel
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my best score is over 900K now but you can get over 1M with nade spam

hollow lagoon
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mine's 800k

shell hazel
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you can do better

hollow lagoon
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i cant seem to roll the enhance mobs early enough

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problem with nade spam is

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i dont collect nuff grenades to begin with

shell hazel
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but needs certain traits I think

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knockback/reload/debuff/xp

hollow lagoon
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need reload

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xp?

hollow lagoon
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oh

shell hazel
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moar xp

hollow lagoon
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also need range me thinks

shell hazel
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I dunno so much on range

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it feels like stuff winds up perm in range eventually and therefore less value

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the xp ones are hard to get 3 of

hollow lagoon
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having 1 seems to make my run go better

shell hazel
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1 is fine, wouldn't necessarily chase them

hollow lagoon
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the problem with enhance mob is

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when i do get all 3, i dont have nuff reload or knockback

shell hazel
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yeah lot of rng

hollow lagoon
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are u ready for union raid? lelllellele

shell hazel
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should get more score than last time

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yeah think so

hollow lagoon
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my badly rolled s doro holding me back

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well. she's decent for ele neutural

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but her only hacing 22% ele hurts

shell hazel
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I feel like the same teams from my side still win

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biscuit out for bay but objectively makes that team weaker

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the other one is just adding helmT instead of rumani to scar team but it's still 2RL

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noah team skip but I'll send 2RL scar if I have pieces left do it just in case

hollow lagoon
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helmt just make that team not really faster

shell hazel
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right yes, this is whale-chan keeps changing team trying to beat me but i'm on track for 4 x SPA 1 wins in a row

hollow lagoon
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it'lll jank up the cp

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but it dosnt do much

shell hazel
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but I only need 700K to be above deficit cap

hollow lagoon
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seems a real easy to kill scarlet if anything, u could concievely do it with nuff iron code

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pre burst

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could be funny af

shell hazel
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generally going for safu

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so low risk/repeatable wins

hollow lagoon
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helt buff atk dmg but that would be after scarlet's nuke and scarlet would be dead by then

shell hazel
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well scarlet will likely still b3 and then die

hollow lagoon
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ye

shell hazel
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so helm won't be bursting either

hollow lagoon
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so idk what his change is for

shell hazel
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xmaiden clears up

hollow lagoon
shell hazel
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he does it a lot changes teams

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sometimes it makes them weaker, sometimes not lol

hollow lagoon
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u do have nuff pieces for 2rl scarlet

shell hazel
#

yeah I think I do

hollow lagoon
#

scarlet trina redhood anis centi

shell hazel
#

I send it just in case it wins

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just needs scar to survive and nuke

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that is 2.5 or 3RL cindy is doable

hollow lagoon
#

better than blue nikke abuse

shell hazel
#

my SR anis alright she SR-5 with 2OL

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granted the OL is bs roll but she's got at least some cp

hollow lagoon
#

this guy put ol on anis

#

holy crapz

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sr5?

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dude u rich in dolls

shell hazel
#

I'm keeping materials for now

#

I have a good numb er and crates, want to be able to SR-15 the main new pilgrim

hollow lagoon
#

says keeping materials, OL purple nikkes

shell hazel
#

I did that a while ago

hollow lagoon
#

how do u have the gear exp

shell hazel
#

I ran out of other purple RL nikke to do ๐Ÿ™‚

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I don't really, I just put them where I think it's best

#

my xanne will probably be going into next CA with no more upgrades lol

hollow lagoon
#

mast anchor 9/9/8 now aaaaaaaaaa

#

need elemental code books

#

never get nuff

brazen ledge
#

yayyyyyyyy finally

hollow lagoon
#

enjoy not pulling pilgrims on the regular

brazen ledge
#

???

hollow lagoon
#

bro went for the unlucky frame

#

that feng sui is downhill from here

tropic summit
# shell hazel

bro not running 2RL indom vesti yet, all yours that's boring

shell hazel
#

yeah the vesti team was fine, my scar didn't crit so didn't win, the opponent scar team was a little dicier than usual lol

#

but I think that is partial rng

hollow lagoon
#

wow solo raid is a uglier gluttony.....

#

no wonder game's advocating true dmg

fast nest
gritty ridge
#

Rate my vesti so far

leaden canyon
#

Almost won t3 lmao

#

Going to try with S.anis in p5 instead and its still 2.5

summer copper
#

what the hell changed in arena to make Siren targeted first?

glad meteor
#

Scar s2

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Its normal

leaden canyon
summer copper
#

huh, which bish is shooting Scarlet when there's a whole line of them to shoot at?

glad meteor
#

Jackal linked

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Hitting any jackal linked unit when scarlet is linked activates scar s2

leaden canyon
#

Yeah so siren there just procing the hell out of it

#

Siren isn't even needed on that team anyway

summer copper
#

slip Rosanna in instead?

leaden canyon
#

or redhood

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Either really

#

Hood is usually ran with that set up

#

giga buff vesti

gritty ridge
#

What are vesti lines, 4 atk 4 ammo 1 cs 3 ele?

leaden canyon
summer copper
#

probably nothing close to that

leaden canyon
#

4 att, 4 ele and 2 cs for pvp works

shell hazel
gritty ridge
#

5% cs is minimum

#

Vesti is weird

summer copper
#

4 atk, 3 cs, 1 ele, 1 chd, 2 crd

#

no lucks with rocks recently

leaden canyon
#

or I could do sbs

#

sbs might be better once the biscuit indom wears off

shell hazel
#

snipe the only b3 is funny though

#

rosa ftw

leaden canyon
#

his team is 2.5 and replacing vesti with sbs puts me at 2.5 also

spiral onyx
#

10

gritty ridge
#

How much cs for vesti to speed up my burst

tropic summit
lone sequoia
upbeat gorge
#

Hi, everyone! So, I've been working on my og Scarlet and Trina (mostly Trina since I got her very recently). What would be the best teamup for those two? Would Moran be necessary too?

upbeat gorge
umbral crown
#

@polar echo bru is forcing his way and is dragging you down to reach me

#

<@&946725432554836008>

vapid lake
#

sadge who keeps deleting the nice guy trying to help me earn $2000 usd

vapid lake
#

Yea right, saving for ananta july 2026 quit nikke

#

KEKL imagine giving 2000 to shiftup

umbral crown
vapid lake
#

They should update the base game and show they care first

umbral crown
#

like pve?

vapid lake
#

Nah

#

Thats besides all the buggy and unstable updates lately

umbral crown
#

hmm

tropic summit
#

but no, keep droppin' money on the game to get those juicy lewds

vapid lake
#

Nah complaining about rouge coat more important

#

U dont realise just how underfinished the entire game is until u seen pierot's thread, it dates back 2 years

tropic summit
#

i've been complaining since over a year, every single survey

#

i've invested 0 cents in this game because i loathe what they're doing and NOT doing with it

#

potential is immense, but here we are, best we can do is some recoloured SR, which mostly doesn't even work at first without cancelling it a few times PrettySmile

#

Pierot's post indeed resonates very well and speaks about the most important problem this game is still facing, stagnation

vapid lake
#

Yea and they especially do not care about pvp so why should i drop money for pvp

tropic summit
#

imagine droppin' money at all on this pain

vapid lake
#

I made some ppl in my sp arena buy core dust packs thats my contribution

#

Good enough thumbsup

tropic summit
umbral crown
fast nest
austere marsh
#

Just found Nikke Deck. Is there instructions on what the buttons do or percentages mean?

finite prawn
#

Either of the collab units meta?

keen vapor
bleak shale
#

or else ur team just procs 2nd biscuit for her Kappa

keen vapor
#

We only saw that trick once though pepehmmm wonder what synch gap will negate Ada's niche

keen vapor
bleak shale
#

i mean its 420% as true dmg

#

which is a pretty good chunk

bleak shale
#

cuz noah ada will either block the wipe and everyone lives or kill ada along with the team cuz noah didnt invuln Kappa

umbral crown
#

Well, skip

keen vapor
#

She will break slipper sadge

spare nimbus
#

how to beat this team?

north brook
keen vapor
spare nimbus
north brook
spare nimbus
north brook
#

Dont know if it bypasses trina invuln or not

#

Could use unlinked p2 scar that case

spare nimbus
#

can team 2 win with that cp diff?

north brook
#

Im guessing ur going for t3 win, might work, prob could use cindy tho

#

Depends how strong their rosa is probably

#

Over maiden i mean

umbral crown
keen vapor
umbral crown
umbral crown
north brook
#

This was after he copied 2 of my teams somewhat, thought hed at least cook a hard counter for one of them

keen vapor
# spare nimbus does this win?

Scarlet Trina Red Hood in this case pepehmmm reduce him to ashes

And.... Maiden huh? It works, I often do it with Cindy burst instead but if you're comfortable with that it's okay

dusty estuary
#

I finally got Noise on my second account. Because of the lack of units, my PvP teams are somewhat orthodox, but does she basically take the crown position here?
Crown, Biscuit, Red Hood, Anis, Drake

uncut crown
#

Which tier list for pvp would anyone say is the most trustworthy/updated?

mystic rain
#

none lol

north brook
dusty estuary
north brook
#

Standard teams tho, ull realize its most of the same units used

keen vapor
spare nimbus
#

well I completely misjudged his second team lol

#

thought it would be faster

#

I guess I'll use mihara next time

dusty estuary
#

Damn she is slow. She could go on the CP buffer team but that might just defeat the point

#

Actually it's pretty close. They're slow as molasses anyway, and it's a CP difference of like 5
Rapipi, Noise, Grave, SBS, Alice

keen vapor
#

Good NovelHmm

keen vapor
dusty estuary
#

Awesome. thank you all kindly

spare nimbus
#

I always do

keen vapor
#

I could never

brazen salmon
#

any improvement needed for my current def team? (no emilia)

team 1 - 2.5 RL
team 2 - 2RL
team 3 - 2.5 RL

mystic rain
#

u can play around with blanc cindy as well

#

swap it in on some days to throw off ur attackers

midnight marsh
crystal flicker
#

Been inactive and still

obtuse dagger
#

i hope nikke develope replays for battle records

covert lintel
mystic rain
#

no

#

aim to be stronger

#

mindset ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ

shell hazel
arctic jewel
#

Siren/Noah/Cindy/Rumani/Biscuit, how do you go up against this? I tried RH/Scarlet/Trina/Centi/Jackal so that RH gets stunned, but that didn't work

#

This is in SP Arena so I have to consider the options that I have available...

#

One of my other teams include Noah/Moran/Biscuit/HelmT/LaplaceT, I'm generally pretty confident with this team

#

Otherwise I'm pretty open for anything

leaden canyon
#

Just wondering if its 2.5 or not because that cindy team can be 2.5 with enough cs and a quantum

arctic jewel
#

... another reminder that I should WATCH the matches xD

#

But it sounds like that's the case

leaden canyon
#

Assuming its not 2.5 then you should be able to kill it with 2RL jackal vesti team

arctic jewel
#

Sounds like a plan, considering both Siren and Noah are Wind coded

#

Time to give Vesti some serious steroids and protein drinks

leaden canyon
#

Jackal vesti flex blanc helmT can be a team for it, or if you are in CP deficit you can do jackal blanc biscuit vesti helm

#

I'm sure there are other teams that can kill that, like a stall team

#

If your noah has more cs than noise then noise takes the stun instead of noah which is fine if the team is 2RL

#

gives you more options if thats the case

arctic jewel
#

CP isn't a major issue, I have slightly higher CP in general

arctic jewel
#

But the question is if my Nikkes can hold on for that long

#

Otherwise I have to Burst really fast

leaden canyon
#

You dont have to burst really quick against that team if your noise can take the stun

#

Noise noah helm/vesti biscuit/flex rumani

arctic jewel
#

True

leaden canyon
#

Noise can take the stun in that team and rumani will still let it burst

#

Noise only takes the stun if your noah has more charge speed though

arctic jewel
#

The thing is that I'd prefer to not use Noah or Helm since they're used in another team, unless I'm forced to, but that would probably require me to think how I should team build other teams xD

#

(I sounded really lazy there)

leaden canyon
#

Oh ok, the 2Rl vesti should work and you can make it 2Rl without helm

arctic jewel
#

Yeah that sounds possible

#

I'll think about it, thank you!

leaden canyon
#

it becomes a little iffy if his team is 2.5 because it will still block vesti burst, but vesti can do a lot of damage after initial burst anyway

arctic jewel
#

I'm honestly gonna go with that possibility, I'd prefer to think that my opponent has done some research at least

river dune
#

PvP folks what sort of cube does Ada or Vesti needs?

tropic summit
tropic summit
brazen salmon
#

can help me put up a team with blanc and siren while keeping my team to 2 / 2.5 rl?

tropic summit
#

indom vesti has one of the highest threat in the game and it's expensive to deal with

#

you should add soda or siren to one of your other teams, with scarlet it can synergize well as it's again expensive to deal with

#

for your 2.5RL throw away, any stall option is fine, e.g like you're already running

#

although avoid SGs as they can help feeding a scarlet into 1.5RL

#

at that point your 2.5RL moran is bypassed

#

additionally as you said, single B1 in p1 non 2RL is siren weak, which trivializes it

tropic summit
brazen salmon
#

so hard to fully utilize for 3 teams at once sigh

tropic summit
#

it's easier when you think about the amount of counters a team can get

#

if you're ideally only weak to specific nikke or very limited archetypes, that's a strong team

#

additionally, always assume your defense is as good as your 2 worse teams and your best team is skipped

#

the objective isn't to have an unbeatable defense (which is not possible in this game), but make it the hardest for opponent or run "traps"

brazen salmon
#

i am at top 2 spot, but sometimes i like to force my top 1 opponent spent gem to reset

#

my top 1 opponent value prestige than anything else

#

both of us can neutralize each other defense

#

no matter how often i changed my team

#

thanks for the guide anyways, will change to indom vesti if i get defeated by other try hards

tropic summit
#

pvp is really simple in this game

brazen salmon
#

our sychro slot very near, i am at 387 while hes on 404

tropic summit
brazen salmon
#

back then hes synchro level was behind me. After getting triggered from spending gem to reset and attack me he instant jump 10 lvl synchro next day KEKW

brazen salmon
tropic summit
#

but the only one to blame here is SU, the dev never gave a damn about improving the PvP experience and it has been always just a kind of side thing

#

the gamemode lacks very simple QoLs and especially a rework of the actual system to demotivate sniping/ratting and hitting the same person essentially unpunished (via gems)

brazen salmon
#

PVP is tough in this game bcuz cannot view replay

tropic summit
#

even viewing replay wouldn't help

#

experienced players already know what their teams are weak to

#

the current rock paper scissor style gives it away

#

a very simple QoL would be giving defenders access to defense perks or even just hiding 1 or 2 units in each team

#

at that point you add mechanics that can help making defense easier

brazen salmon
#

actually my 3k gems are secure, i just want to use my ticket to force my top 1 spent gem to reset KEKW

brazen salmon
tropic summit
#

rather than unpredictable, a team that foces opponent to actually think instead of running the common no brain counters CrownHUH

brazen salmon
#

haha true also

#

quite funny to see my top 1 changing team everytime i beat him

wise horizon
tropic summit
supple kettle
#

Is it fine to not have Emilia in this team?

tropic summit
#

just scrap it and make a better team thumbsup

supple kettle
#

Oh, but Cindy well built and bay is 10/10/10Doro

tropic summit
#

doesn't change a thing

supple kettle
tropic summit
#

if you're denied, that team is just sitting ducks pain

#

a same archetype but on 2RL and siren resistant, now that'd be gud

supple kettle
#

Most of my RL are builtDoro

tropic summit
#

if rookie:

supple kettle
#

RookieDoro

tropic summit
#

team above retains your purpose while:

-fixes siren weakness
-retains bay B2, in safe position to cast
-retains siren stun in p2 (anti noah)
-retains heavy DPS (emilia)
-is anti jackal link/attacker on 2RL

#

here you've to make a choice:

-have stun pressure
-have biscuit stalling

as siren and biscuit generally are hard to fit together

supple kettle
#

Would bay be enough to keep the team alive until full burst?Doro

keen vapor
#

Not against Rosanna

tropic summit
#

you're kept alive to full burst via jackal

supple kettle
#

So thisDoro

tropic summit
supple kettle
#

OhDoro

#

Who buffs her up?

tropic summit
#

you don't wanna run emi main B3 on defense, as echo mentioned earlier you only need a rosanna to deny her

supple kettle
#

So replace Helm with Cinderella and have Cinderella be the main burstDoro

tropic summit
#

pick either of these imo

#

rookie is a loss cause so just run rotations of 2RL teams that have siren resistance and anti nuke with DPS KEKL

covert lintel
#

Why did siren still skip target cindy even though her decoy is destroyedwhyyy

dense kindle
#

@umbral belfry TimiProud

umbral belfry
#

lock in

#

I'm p sure I can beat it now but I've been too busy with work to mald dead

dense kindle
leaden canyon
#

When are the pvp brackets going to change again?

#

Got a whale in here that is just to high for anybody to attack lol

keen vapor
#

After anni?

keen vapor
#

Wait, Check could pepehmmm

tulip quest
#

when is Champions Arena gonna stop being BETA? it's like 13 Seasons right now?

leaden canyon
#

The same amount of time it took them to put it in the game KEKW

tulip quest
#

cause Pve got Solo raid reward

#

n Champions u get reward alongside ur Union Member

#

can literally just afk to get it

#

It's fun tho I won't deny

#

making 5 teams and you see super rare teams that sometimes win champions arena

keen vapor
#

@hoary maple what's your CP with

Scarlet/Drake or Helm/Trina/Siren/Jackal

keen vapor
#

-# Combat Power

keen vapor
keen vapor
uncut merlin
#

any suggestions for attacker/defending teams for arenas ? i dont really understand the full mechanic for the arena

#

i do have almost all units, but idk who do i need to build asap for arena

silent sonnet
#

are Ada or Jill needed in PvP? otherwise i might not even pull for extra copies

swift mango
#

๐Ÿซƒ Sorry for spreading misinformation.

2.5rl that was made by 5th SG shoot like S.Anis, p1 could be stunned by Siren

tulip quest
wooden hedge
#

Whats a good normal arena tram that has bay?

hollow lagoon
#

prob non because noah better

#

u'll only find bay in special arena

umbral crown
#

There is no way, just skip the whale

hoary maple
gritty ridge
keen vapor
keen vapor
#

But.... I think Scar may still do it on slight deficit

#

You may be able defeat Dirk with those teams

hoary maple
#

Hmm I guess I'll give it a try

keen vapor
violet spoke
keen vapor
#

Wait, second team wasn't really a counter to another team, but rather a second counter to Noah team pepehmmm

violet spoke
#

If he wins i hope dirk doesnt hit me for some reason

keen vapor
#

Something like this

Scar against Noah and Helm against Blanc

hoary maple
#

Well, once I hit 521 anything is possible, right??? LiterSmug

keen vapor
keen vapor
hybrid fox
#

If I use soda for team 1 the cp is too low

#

What do I do?

keen vapor
keen vapor
keen vapor
hybrid fox
keen vapor
wooden hedge
gritty ridge
# wooden hedge Yes

Since you have noah, theres not really a reason to use bay in rookie arena

hybrid fox
keen vapor
hybrid fox
#

Ok

keen vapor
umbral crown
gritty ridge
umbral crown
gritty ridge
umbral crown
hybrid fox
gritty ridge
#

Nuh uh

#

Not even 200

hybrid fox
keen vapor
gritty ridge
#

Smh kids these days

#

Dont even have lvl 16 tempura cube

hybrid fox
keen vapor
#

pepehmmm enemy Vesti might have elemental

#

Consider going in Lap Vesti Drake order next time

umbral crown
umbral crown
#

Will be missing 7 batteries to lv15, if lucky SR will give those

gritty ridge
#

I have lvl 7 now, im gonna pump quantum up

umbral crown
#

Excellent

quick lake
#

I have hit 100k union chips Doro

#

Hope we can buy liberalio dupes Doroke

umbral crown
quick lake
#

Nope CrownHUH

umbral crown
#

Brick

quick lake
umbral crown
#

Tempura 11-13 at least?

quick lake
#

11 TimiProud

umbral crown
quick lake
#

Me casual now CrustDerp

#

Waiting for jellyfish

umbral crown
#

Waos, did you become the whale?

quick lake
#

No whale ChimeKisama

umbral crown
#

Like the highest sync in your sp

quick lake
#

Noโ€ฆ still got some higher sync peeps

umbral crown
#

Oh

quick lake
#

But I think im the only one wiping out. So Iโ€™ll surpass themโ€ฆ eventually

umbral crown
#

Good

#

Also good if you top 3 for the jims

quick lake
#

No one has attacked me in weeks

#

I stayed at 3rd all the way, the rest fighting for 2nd. Whale at first

umbral crown
umbral crown
#

But he failing Doro

swift mango
umbral belfry
#

I'm a day one player too poggies

quick lake
#

We are all number one EinkkSmile

tropic summit
swift mango
#

This is my Vitamin C that has been expired for 1 year 3 months. Anyone dare to use it? pepehmmm

quick lake
#

Are they supposed to be black ChimeKisama looks oxidised pain

leaden canyon
#

its just vitamin c

swift mango
quick lake
#

i knew it KEKWut

leaden canyon
#

that happens to avocadoes too, it just oxidized like Rheax said

#

Dont take it from me though google it

swift mango
leaden canyon
#

lmao

quick lake
#

they do look like m&m

upper harbor
#

Does Helm feed for them to get Noah proc invun off? I moved Helm to eat the stun, but Scarlet B3 got ate by the Noah. Not sure how they are matching speed.

fast nest
#

Hmm...

#

Helm's ammo is impressive. Scarlet's one too.

#

Whatever, usually b2 cast faster than b3. So if burst gen is quite neaby, scarlet b3 is blocked by noah.

swift mango
upper harbor
#

Lemme edit it

upper harbor
#

Still trying to learn all the little mechanics of pvp

fast nest
#

Yes it is noah. It showed immune.

keen vapor
#

Ofc trolldespair today is finally the day Dirk decides to attack C1

fast nest
#

First of all, if scarlet's ammo is higher than certain value, you get stunned. If you want to use scarlet in arena, reduce ammo.

minor hazel
#

Team would be faster if you had jackal soaking the sanis bullets also, youโ€™re only 1RL faster so it makes sense Noahโ€™s burst would apply

fast nest
#

Secondly, this is an advice not for arena. If you read HelmT's skill 2, she provides critical rate buff when she use up all bullet. Remove ammo option in OL.

swift mango
# upper harbor

This is SpA bug that Siren on 2nd-3rd match keep the bullet count from 1st+2nd match. They basically 2rl like you.