pvp-arena

[gritty ridge]

[shell hazel]

you took my luck

give it back

[gritty ridge]

Bro some random sync 135 just hit me in rookie

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel pulled em anotehr 2 pilgrims pulling jill, cinderella which is wasted, and drunklet

[swift mango]

Jill?
Nah, I'm not pulling today

[covert lintel]

You should pull
I got her in 20

[gritty ridge]

Just do this

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-doro-dorothy-pipe-bomb-gif-4643514375044855612

[covert lintel]

Can jill one shot in pvp too?

[shell hazel]

[minor pier]

@lucid zenith we are the only ppl on our server!!!

[lucid zenith]

I guess nobody's bothering to log in yet

[minor pier]

gimme the best defender team comps in existance plzzz
i dont want to lose

[lucid zenith]

The best defense is to cp gap unfortunately

[lunar pawn]

indeed

[minor pier]

[lunar pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-senator-armstrong-gif-25280817

[minor pier]

they all bully my defender team... every season...

[lucid zenith]

Not me, I leave you alone

[swift mango]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1353582790582734901/1379486789579837541/Noise_in_PvP.mp4?ex=68de9eb0&is=68dd4d30&hm=54f6cf59f5fa459148be5c2fe9d53736d92e4a0cc9af8212f3de3909f2eb55f1&

[minor pier]

non stop losses to the same old people.... every week:

[worldly wadi]

I need 3 teams for the special arena.

[lunar pawn]

Just run a tvesti team

Best rookie defense is a changing one, keeps them confused

Jackal blanc centi tvesti thelm

[gritty ridge]

Hit auto for the 3rd team

You dont have enough investments for 3 good teams

[swift mango]

I guess she still used the old weapon in combat being the reason why this is not a 60$ skin.

[minor pier]

tvesti?

[tropic summit]

i'll be honest, looks kinda ugly

imagine spending money on a gacha game and on an ugly skin at that

[glad meteor]

Thick latex

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-bunny-massage-pawsitive-massage-silly-gif-7870713617434883872

[umbral belfry]

@dense kindle forgot to say

but also pie wins so

L but also W

[dense kindle]

At least you beat KZ 🥲

[umbral belfry]

if it's a repeat of what happened with Phoenix we're gonna rematch next CA and then I lose

[dense kindle]

2nd ca win coming soon , I haven't watched through the fights yet any close calls?

[umbral belfry]

haven't checked matches besides my fellow pie phoric v dpx

where it's possible he wins, bbman v idk

[glad meteor]

Hime going to win ca?

[umbral belfry]

sir I'm out LOL

[glad meteor]

[umbral belfry]

[glad meteor]

maam, get good

[umbral belfry]

[glad meteor]

I didnt even make top 64, dont mind me

[dense kindle]

Hime get hard bracket

[umbral belfry]

at least I can bully the toddler bracket

[glad meteor]

Can’t even attack whale consistently now

[umbral belfry]

pull out your new scar k

[glad meteor]

Boolying babies

[umbral belfry]

no sir the other way around

[glad meteor]

I did, 444 trina 4/7:7 scar lol

[umbral belfry]

4 4 4 trina

[dense kindle]

If i ever get out mine, dont bully me too hard 🥲

[umbral belfry]

see you next pools

[glad meteor]

Jackal bay vesti
Blanc cindy mihara
Scar trina rh
Nero moran sr5s
Ros sg can’t kill nero

[umbral belfry]

[glad meteor]

Too much to fix,

[umbral belfry]

wait wheres your Noah at then

[glad meteor]

Sg

[umbral belfry]

[glad meteor]

I dont even login game much anymore

I’m actually busy for once

[umbral belfry]

k retired era

[glad meteor]

oldge

I wanted to put jackal with scar. But trina scar has like no invest

Skill wise mid

Sr10 scar though

[umbral belfry]

pls put love into your trina

[glad glade]

Gotchu, thanks. He probably copied off of someone else instead, probably from here. He does know for sure that if Mihara bursts, it basically does nothing

[glad meteor]

Maybe, since elec raid

[dense kindle]

Another pve player

[tropic summit]

what you busy at? getting the 3D ladies?

[glad meteor]

What are 3d ladies

I just work

[shell hazel]

3d grills?

[raven plover]

is jill good for pvp

[tropic summit]

grills that you can actually do things with physically

3D cat grills would be ideal

[shell hazel]

damn that sounds awesome

when?

https://tenor.com/view/monogatari-series-monogatari-hanekawa-hanekawa-tsubasa-monogatari-neko-gif-12519097879664770078

[swift mango]

Powercreep bow gun is real. Getting high score is much easier.

[glad meteor]

sasuga railtracer

[wicked horizon]

Can I ask for opinions on a couple of CA matches?

[umbral crown]

Yeah, later gonna put the teams in nikke work but i do not see myself losing yet. I just know team 1 gonna lose since its sg vs noise noah biscuit cindy

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-rupee-gyaru-nikke-godess-of-victory-godess-of-victory-nikke-gif-27265008

[umbral crown]

This replay was op , hero saving the day

First time i see my nero dying

[glad meteor]

[umbral crown]

My hero is better

[glad meteor]

You had second burst. Not fair

[umbral crown]

Not really

Rapu revived helm

[glad meteor]

Imagine Noah treasure

[umbral crown]

Nero was dead already

[glad meteor]

Interesting

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/where-surprised-panic-tell-me-hurry-gif-14851030

[umbral crown]

You can check the replay later, will record once i get home

[glad meteor]

Rapu burst.

[umbral crown]

[glad meteor]

I can record. But been busy

[umbral crown]

The adult life is hitting hard

[glad meteor]

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

Is yours max doll?

[raven plover]

isnt it obvious

[umbral crown]

Some people still on SR5-SR14 thi

[raven plover]

yea but Im day 1 player who only play pvp

[umbral crown]

waos day 1

[raven plover]

surely pvp units max dolls

[umbral crown]

But im not day 1 and all possible pvp units are max doll

[umbral crown]

Max core also

Almost 3 years pullin

[raven plover]

about that

[umbral crown]

But when beating Faren

[raven plover]

[umbral crown]

Trust your investments

I had good rng beating a whale with full c7, so you will also have yours next season

[gritty ridge]

Whats your blanc cp

I wanna compare

[umbral crown]

172k

[gritty ridge]

Oh urs is a bit stronger

[umbral crown]

C6

[gritty ridge]

Mines only 130k

R15 tho

[umbral crown]

Nees more love

[gritty ridge]

I think shes pretty strong for my progression tho

[umbral crown]

Some better lines and her cp goes up

The plan is to eventually make all my units 200k+cp

[gritty ridge]

The funny thing is, I think blanc is my highest cp unit in CA

Nvrmind its helm at 146k

[spare nimbus]

Do most people in pvp know the method to check when someone is online or not?

I feel like most people in my sp know, but most other people in my union or others I know didn’t even know how to

[north brook]

Mbe the new change finally made def work beyond soda rng

[north brook]

Tbh for me i know when my rival always hits so ill check a bit and again later if he didnt already

U can try a wacky time or just before reset if ur getting hit too much

[spare nimbus]

What def do u use?

[spare nimbus]

He usually hits me around this time, so I appear offline and attack back 30 minutes after the last time he logs in

[north brook]

Basically pins standard, but a bit diff

Helm burst with lap cindy sub on noah for longevity, soda scar, vesti emi indom

[spare nimbus]

So something like
Scarlet Trina Soda Centi Rumani
Jackal Vesti xMaiden Blanc Emi
Noise Noah Helm Cindy Laplace?

[north brook]

Soda p2 so she gets taunted by noah if possible i think

Jack for scar, bisc rumani with indom

Cindy p5 so shes last standing, and she eats p5 attacks i think

The recent buff to laplace gen makes the noah team 2rl baseline which is nice

Was using sr anis before

[spare nimbus]

So like this?

[north brook]

Ya

[spare nimbus]

Ig triple 2rl is possible with 15%cs on besti and 25% on emi

[north brook]

Ya, although for now optimal to utilize the bug so its a bit less expensive

[digital rivet]

is ada a must pull or is she more niche?

[north brook]

Decent and playable, idk if mandatory though, prob need to see jill performance pve wise

Guess if its specifically pvp ada is prob usable but might take some time to know how good she is compared to other options

[umbral crown]

Mine is noah at 180k

[gritty ridge]

You pvp goons and your scary high utility cp

[north brook]

tbh its just getting useless black lines on jackal and wondering why my dps dont get those

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

Cp is important tho

[half grail]

Any of these characters good for pvp?

[umbral crown]

Which ones

[half grail]

The Collab ones

I just been logging in doing dailies haven’t watch what any of these characters do

[umbral crown]

Ada has potential, jill not much

[vapid lake]

Guess what, i got scarlet from jill banner

No longer scarletless

[raven plover]

insane

congrats boss give me some of your luck

[vapid lake]

1 year 8 month to get 1 copy of scarlet

My first copy

U sure u want my luck

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1108346931819851806/1403517546409361458/IMG_2452.gif

[raven plover]

thats pretty much my mold luck as well

[north brook]

Same think only thing good from pilgrim molds ive had last year was 1 dupe of sbs

[quick lake]

scam molds

[vapid lake]

I have recorded proof all with timestamp of the date i got them

[quick lake]

Dedication

[vapid lake]

should i dump my nayuta fund on scarlet

[swift mango]

Time to get your champ.

[vapid lake]

54 rock, 300+ doll kits waiting

Maybe i will just save for nayuta

[swift mango]

That Mihara should be yellow.

[keen vapor]

No

[keen vapor]

• Looks inside
• Smol White
• Brick

[sick garnet]

Im ded

[keen vapor]

Only good team you can make is auto

[sick garnet]

aight bet

[keen vapor]

[clever dock]

wait this team is 4rl tf
why do i keep forgetting that biscuit has no burst gen

[swift mango]

Jackal+Vesti+Rumani+Blanc+Drake.

[clever dock]

WIN but wasn't my cindy-noise-noah-rrh-anis supposed to be 3rl?

[swift mango]

Yes, Cindy p1 make the enemy team 3rl too

[clever dock]

huh
how

[zinc flicker]

Can y’all make me an arena team? I have every Nikke besides a few which shouldn’t be a problem.

[keen vapor]

You saw... the pinned teams?

[zinc flicker]

…Lemme check

Yeah I dunno where those are 🙁

[keen vapor]

Click the top pinned msgs are there

[zinc flicker]

Ah Alr

[fast nest]

Is there anyone who can teach me how to use nikkework and how to analyze video frame by frame?
I understood that I can figure out what the current frame is through number of remain bullets of AR or SMG.
But here is my question.

1. In video, how to find the exact time-frame of launcher? Time of launching? or Time of landing?
2. In video, how to find the exact time-frame of fully charged gauge in the video? Time when grey bar start to disappear?
3. In video, how to figure out the exact time frame of when each 1,2,3 burst was used? what kind of screen transition should I focus on?

[keen vapor]

I can't play videos frame by frame tbw

[spiral onyx]

@swift mango My VestiT team is exactly 2RL. Just requires a lot of charge speed

[keen vapor]

Huh?

[keen vapor]

Nikke deck says it only needs Vesti CS

[spiral onyx]

Could be, not like I'm gonna roll out any of the charge speed I previously have

[umbral crown]

Nikke deck has a thing with cs, you do not know if it assumea 15 ,18,21,25

But im not sure if nikke work updated gen for laplace and vesti

I have never used adjuntant on vesti or emi

I always go the tempura way

[spiral onyx]

Yeah looks like the minimum retirement is just 21% cs on VestiT and a Quantum on Centi or Noah

[spiral onyx]

Might not have, so the bar might be even lower now

[spiral onyx]

Actually this is kinda wild, Laplace+ may be able to replace Emilia and allow Emilia to go elsewhere

Probably to simplify the UI

[spiral onyx]

I'ma do some testing here, this could actually be huge

[gritty ridge]

@lusty gull we need answers

[keen vapor]

It didn't, only picked nothing and 17% CS, but we then found out about being it the same as 15%

Well, Emilia was the exception, you still can choose multiple options

Used too many words I must rest

[umbral crown]

Yeah, thats true

[keen vapor]

Could have used less words this your fault

[spiral onyx]

Oh shi----

[umbral crown]

will be waiting

[gritty ridge]

Huh?

[spiral onyx]

runs back into the kitchen

[umbral crown]

Emi can start packing her things already

[covert lintel]

full ed midhara against unprotected noah

[keen vapor]

Don't ping so fast

[umbral crown]

follows you

[keen vapor]

Add P5 noise

[umbral crown]

[spiral onyx]

Can't, not enough burst gen

[umbral crown]

Why

[spiral onyx]

The only swap is Emilia for Laplace+ or Centi for Laplace+

Or Noah for Laplace+

[brazen nova]

my team rn, im around C7 and 5
level 313, max level on server are 382
i don't have Noah
any change i can make?

[umbral crown]

@keen vapor

[brazen nova]

i used team 1 to counter enemy Noah team, works everytime

[keen vapor]

Red Hood ain't doing nothing

[spiral onyx]

Nope can't replace Centi with Laplace. So literally just Emilia with Laplace

[gritty ridge]

That means shez doing something

[umbral crown]

need to force laplace to get some more cs before next ca

[brazen nova]

my harem

[spiral onyx]

Ok so it's slightly slower. The Emilia comp was bursting on Vesti's 3rd shot while the Laplace+ comp burst on Vesti's 4th shot

[keen vapor]

Red Hood ain't doing nothing

[spiral onyx]

614 on Mihara vs 602

[keen vapor]

Team

Mana needs a skill maxed, don't remember which, not worth

Frimaaaaaaa......

[strong hull]

[spiral onyx]

[keen vapor]

Dirty things are banned

[strong hull]

[keen vapor]

Banned

[strong hull]

Preparing for next raid Mr Echocho-san

Dont let me see ur 10% this time

[gritty ridge]

Death penalty

[fast nest]

I heard somewhere.
If vesti is too strong, cover is broken too early. So burst gen may not be that different.

[keen vapor]

🫵 Death penalty!

[gritty ridge]

No lewd stuff!! Death penalty!!

[keen vapor]

Trying my best

[strong hull]

[umbral crown]

yeah but thats if team is 3 rl

[swift mango]

Now I know your Noah is not that tanky.

Edit: oh wait, it's the same level range whale.

[spiral onyx]

It's more tanky in CA cause recycling etc has more effect

But yeah would be nice if Nikke.deck could update with the new burst gens

[ionic rose]

I have a genius idea, simply remove Emilia, put in biscuit, forget about 2rl (2.5rl fast enough for noah burst just pray u dont meet siren) and then have emilia and laplace in ur scarlet team so its 1rl!

[spiral onyx]

Can't do 1RL except with double Rosanna sac lol

But actually 2RL Scarlet isn't always ideal, less self atk stacks

[swift mango]

I think they already did?

[spiral onyx]

Er sorry Nikke.work

Nikke.deck is updated yeah

[ionic rose]

Btw i saw on prydwen that Ada is pretty good u tried?

[glacial hound]

note that nikke.work is not accurate for besti, error should be within 2 frames (or 4 frames using their 60 fps notation)

[ionic rose]

I saw ada is like a Alice that deals 100% health each shot

[swift mango]

Maybe after this CA when Chinese starts making new pasta teams with the new burst gen lol.

I'm trying 2rl Noise+Noah+Vesti+Emi+Lap with synched shot and the result was terrible, couldn't reach 2rl because they keep destroying covers and lose burst gen.

Guess I need to roll off Vesti CS to 5% and also lower Emi or go home with that team.

[glacial hound]

for those who are interested this should be a better approximation if not exactly correct chart for besti cs. Since vesti is 2 second unit, she should have cs rounded to nearest 0.5% instead of 1%. Current odd part about vesti is that despite being a 2 second unit her base charge time is 61 frames instead of 60 frames (using 30fps notation). Testing by the chinese are ongoing, yellow highlight are confirmed correct

error should be within 1 frame

[coarse lake]

run noise, see if you got the heals to outlast dot

[spiral onyx]

Noise is perma stuck in Cindy team as a buffer

[coarse lake]

oh right you run that comp

then probably whatever is most sg resistant

[swift mango]

Idk cap, there is no 0.5% CS in Arena because rounding. So let's say her break point is 10% instead of 11% I would test it later to find out.

Okay, it had an 11% break point in your chart too. I derp.

[coarse lake]

or give trio a try

[umbral crown]

Saw that team.losing to slow cindy mihara comp

[swift mango]

Yeah, it does

[coarse lake]

drop lapt for a clip rl

lapt really isn't doing much there

other than lowering gen

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

3 synched shot kill same synch p1-2-3 without bursting.

That was why cover got bursted.

[umbral crown]

Blood wanted the true damage powa

[coarse lake]

? my unsynced vesti emi does it already, and if you're gonna kill p1-p3 then just run trio instead

and use noah elsewhere

[swift mango]

On Vesti first shot.

[coarse lake]

ok? then run trio

what kind of team that gets p1-p3 killed in first vesti shot will you find in ca that you're gonna need to burst for

[swift mango]

Trio only work when you don't meet bigger research and synch enemy. And it doesn't have anything to tank if fail to kill

[coarse lake]

then drop lapt and kill with second vesti shot

[glacial hound]

rounding to 1% is for 1 second charge time units because charge speed computation is done in 10ms units for nikke and 1% of 1 second is 10ms

[swift mango]

This is not something trio could do as well.

[coarse lake]

??? why not

[swift mango]

Show me your trio doing this.

[coarse lake]

how is multiplying vesti dmg by 1.6x gonna do less dmg

[umbral crown]

60 levels should not be a problem

[swift mango]

Because this multiple Vesti and Emi and LapT by 3.

[glacial hound]

i think he means he's using the bug

but for all intents and purposes high invest trio gets the same effect

[coarse lake]

? moran and noah doing nothing there

noah isn't remotely synced

[swift mango]

Multiple 3 dps by 3?

[glacial hound]

if enemy only has 400k hp, dealing 500k and dealing 1M doens't make a big difference

they die

[swift mango]

Yes, they did absolutely nothing in this fight. Just cheer leading.

[coarse lake]

ok, so then replace with trio, and use noah and moran elsewhere if they're needed

[umbral crown]

[coarse lake]

well tbh, safe play is to just keep noah

bc there's a chance what's working in sp for sync won't work in ca

[glacial hound]

in SP its 12 / 345, in CA it seems to be 123 / 45

but i have reports that atk/def matters for bug activation in CA

in SP the only difference between atk/def is p5, maybe for CA there are more differences

taunt from a weird position can also throw off the timing alignment, since current data is all reference from p1

[swift mango]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177116972593463316/1421863560484487168/Screenrecorder-2025-09-28-21-17-10-208.mp4?ex=68df3261&is=68dde0e1&hm=7dc03c0b98d93cbfc5233752632008ea0d3c101b50b0359f7c360a598900380a&

I mean yes, my opponents in CA could research gap by 1 year and a half and this guy. While having almost everyone max core to boot.

[coarse lake]

that looks like sync

vesti hitting noah same time emi hitting hits noise

[covert lintel]

Teach me

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/chika-lenny-face-eyebrow-raise-kaguya-sama-love-is-war-gif-16096785

[covert lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/iamtonytalks-tonytalks-antonio-baldwin-calling-call-the-police-gif-5076103129208771203

[main trail]

nikke.work doesn't account for emilia skill charge speed does it? is there a way to set it like nikke deck?

[glad meteor]

Nikke work assumes max s1 if I’m not mistaken, so only need to add OLs and adjustant cube

[shell hazel]

think deck could follow that logic as well not that many units have a skill based gen mechanic

can only think of emi/helmT/mana?

and first 2 are meta so serious pvpers would max skills on anyway, and last isn't that common

[silent sonnet]

Hows the new character in pvp?

[glad meteor]

There was no hope for jill in pvp if I’m not mistaken

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel

Claire is something else

[shell hazel]

rubbish score

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

-# OK it beats my score lol

what loadout did you use @hollow lagoon ?

[shell hazel]

not wildly diff to mine

luck with traits is part of it

I'm not sure yet what the crucial ones are

[hollow lagoon]

enhance mobs

[shell hazel]

yeah even if you get 3 of those say you need others to survive I think

those are a given

[hollow lagoon]

most crucial still

[shell hazel]

I dunno how to rank the others really

[hollow lagoon]

debuff knockback reload

[shell hazel]

aoe atk/reload, debuff duration, knockback distance, range

not even sure what is best

[hollow lagoon]

gonna do a run with 2 mob ehance and see

1blue 1 golden

maybe it caps out

[shell hazel]

60% I had I think

think it's 10 + 20 + 30 = 60 for all 3

this was my last loadout

it's very similar haha, 5 launchers, 1 shottie, 10 nadey boys

[hollow lagoon]

wasted useless barrier thingy

[shell hazel]

yeah and not the silencer thing

[hollow lagoon]

silencer reduce reload time it bad

[shell hazel]

otherwise we happened to have very similar 🙂

[hollow lagoon]

sorry i mean the scope

scope is bad

[shell hazel]

wat this one do again?

[hollow lagoon]

crit chance

idk if good but i grab whatever straight 3 unit thingy

[keen vapor]

I like crits

[shell hazel]

Echo!

[keen vapor]

I'll become worm

[shell hazel]

🪱

[ionic rose]

Which weapons in the minigame should i remove?

[shell hazel]

work: why can't you work?
me: no hands (now worm)

[ionic rose]

We can only do 5 right

[shell hazel]

anything that isn't the grenade launcher lol

but I just do weapons not like random things

so pistol, lazer thing etc

[ionic rose]

[keen vapor]

Always AR

[shell hazel]

don't reroll stuff until you got all slots available as well

if unwanted wep comes up as I go I remove it right away

[ionic rose]

Is the appear rate of normal weapons same? We can remove the weapons with highest appear rates first

[shell hazel]

I think it's fine you basically only have SG and grenade launchers showing if you remove others

later I'd remove SG too if I could but not possible

[ionic rose]

[shell hazel]

actually biggest win with claire is that you get less junk traits to pick from

no burst one at all means more likely to be something useful

[covert lintel]

You're strong playing that mini game
I really sleep whenever i play that

And the music is like a lullaby to me

[shell hazel]

I don't play it all the time or anything haha

run doesn't take that long

[primal charm]

What is sync shot and the point of it?

How many cs vesti need to make her burst gen meaningful in 2rl chat?

[ionic rose]

Like 15% cs is enough

[primal charm]

How about 8%

[keen vapor]

Ask to nikke dot work (pinned)

[umbral belfry]

@placid bloom it's over

[placid bloom]

I didn’t check what happened

[shell hazel]

[placid bloom]

All pie out?

[shell hazel]

is kitkat pie still in? 😄

[umbral belfry]

dpx ate the final pie yes

bc soda stunned moran

[placid bloom]

Is it DPX vs Piggy now

[umbral belfry]

phoric so unlucky with stuns 😭

[umbral belfry]

it is

[shell hazel]

🐷 may win

[placid bloom]

[scarlet adder]

is Ada worth getting?

[umbral belfry]

I can't check match ups rn

[umbral belfry]

worth at least 1 copy

[keen vapor]

We will say it about anyone even Rem isn't it

[placid bloom]

Seem Piggy was just being bullied by prev CA bracket, now became the bully

[umbral belfry]

I'm about to say this to you

[umbral belfry]

[keen vapor]

Nooooooooooooo

[placid bloom]

When you become the bully

[umbral belfry]

I'm just glad I bullied a toddler bully this ca

[shell hazel]

one does not simply beat 🐷

[umbral belfry]

he's fighting last ca winner tho

and prolly the top toddler bracket bully

[shell hazel]

but they have 🐷 advantage

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

almost accidentally getting the winner frame again

bear vs moran guy next (now with blanc pfp)

[worldly osprey]

@swift mango wish i were on the attacking side, i'd probably win noise died so no b1 for noah use burst

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

"again"

[shell hazel]

again

[umbral belfry]

again

[shell hazel]

again?!

[glad glade]

again

[valid inlet]

@wild hemlock here we go

[warm monolith]

@fathom rock guys i won again thanks to your helps and i thought that was the last match but this was actually i didnt know. This is the next matchup in P3 def might win? Maybe in P4 too idk much really again,also at the P5 the viper has treasure but not maxed out

[shell hazel]

was this not the one where the noise was taunting to die? 😄

[warm monolith]

Yeah lol,the atk one is the one whod win yesterday

[shell hazel]

oh we thought def might win? what was the outcome of each match?

[spare nimbus]

Oh well I lost in top 32 against the guy who made it all the way to finals I guess I can’t be too upset

[umbral belfry]

@placid bloom it's gg for piggy

[placid bloom]

[umbral belfry]

GO NANA GOOOOO

[placid bloom]

unlucky

[umbral belfry]

t2 - t4 are already rip 😭

[placid bloom]

seem DPX's crystal ball too accurate

[umbral belfry]

t1 is rng and t5 is piggy. but between are dpx

[placid bloom]

when you get better crystal ball

[umbral belfry]

wheres my crystal ball

he has the chance to do the funniest underdog win though here

but extremely unlikely

[warm monolith]

This was

[shell hazel]

ah so defender won like we thought might happen?

[warm monolith]

Yep

[shell hazel]

I wondered how the same attacking team was back but

that isn't the next match

noise taunt fail team 3

[warm monolith]

This is the current match rn,my mistake if i send the wrong ss

Viper T5 has t but not max

[shell hazel]

how is this team back?

[warm monolith]

Idk,they mightve had the same team

[thorny sequoia]

PVP GODS I need your help again! 🙏🙏🙏

Please give me a hard counter to this team

Thank you PvP gods! 🙏🙏 🫡 🫡 🫡

[shell hazel]

this was previous team
#pvp-arena message

it looks same as new one am I imagining it?

[tropic summit]

noah biscuit rh helmt laplaceT/emilia

[keen vapor]

@hoary maple lesson learned, LaplaceT still can't do Noah Centi team 2 RL, my speed guessing abilities getting worse

[warm monolith]

Yeah i just realized,yesterday,attacker was the who won

[thorny sequoia]

HelmT burst instead of Emilia?

I used the exact same team but Emilia burst, and I lost

[tropic summit]

no, it's RH B1 and B3

the enemy team will be shredded by DPS B3s

[thorny sequoia]

Ok I'll try it now

Thank you sir 🙏

[shell hazel]

but defender won?

i'm so confused, I think I need to run away from this one

I'm going to run away (bravely)

[warm monolith]

Uuuh,one sec

[shell hazel]

jesus take the wheel (Railtracer)

[tropic summit]

that's not the god i believe in

[shell hazel]

I too, am interested

[warm monolith]

The one named reiclair(the atk in this one) won yesterday,also he is still the aftacker in the current one

[warm monolith]

Which is this

[thorny sequoia]

THANK YOU PVP GOD! 🙏🙏🙏

PRAISE BE 🙏🙏🙏 🫡

[keen vapor]

Isn't that my comp from my recording

Red's copying me

[tropic summit]

i've run noah bis rh flex flex since long time

[gritty ridge]

Nero moran helm rapunzel quiry

Its no buff scar, its not killing nero moran

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor

[keen vapor]

Sus

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

[covert lintel]

[warm monolith]

So um,whos winning?

[haughty mortar]

I have upgraded my nikke. Can someone please recook SPA defense for me?

[tropic summit]

@gritty ridge @keen vapor

[covert lintel]

Below

[warm monolith]

allright Thanks

[keen vapor]

Auto
Well another option is Rumani for jackal and making a Blanc team with that Jackal, but CP gets lower

Also, I'm hoping Noah is faster than noise by two tiers

[haughty mortar]

How can I tell who is faster?

[keen vapor]

Charge speed

[haughty mortar]

So T1 and T2 are these, with T3 auto? Currently I am running this, as per last advise

And Noah will be faster than Noise, since poor Noise not only doesn't have OL gear, but is also missing torso and boots (which I am to farm for later)

[keen vapor]

No overload is serious brick

[haughty mortar]

Hei now, PVE > PVP. I am going down the PVP list rn. Just wrapped up Scarlet, working on Centi

So Anne is useless for PVP? I heard she was good now?

[tropic summit]

ya use this
https://nikke-deck.web.app/

burst gen of battery units attached

[keen vapor]

Lap treasure

[keen vapor]

She was good before Trina

[haughty mortar]

So I can remove her from the synchro?

[keen vapor]

The Vesti

[keen vapor]

Sure

[pliant inlet]

Yo, can someone help me out? Which side do you think is winning this pvp? I’m one match away from that lose all frame

[mystic rain]

L

[swift mango]

good enough for CA. Bad for SpA.

If you somehow had very high CP rossana and 3 clip SG then XAnne could good enough for spa.

could be

[tropic summit]

L
ammo dependant scarlet
R
L
L

[swift mango]

No long Chime fan. I see.

[keen vapor]

Right
Left
Left
..... Normally is right (but left this time)
Left

[keen vapor]

Let me rest

[pliant inlet]

Ok, that was also my bet,so I’m gonna hope the right one’s gonna lose

Thank you guys

[mystic rain]

aaaaaand then the R guy wins

[swift mango]

R
Look at Scar ammo, if stunned then right.
Maybe left but investment sensitive.
Soda RNG good luck
L if indom on time. Since 3 attackers.

[pliant inlet]

I mean the left guy won like 4 times already that arena, right one on the other hand didn't had that opportunity yet...

[covert lintel]

Why left for T4?
All SG pellets will go to scar immunity

[pliant inlet]

I just hope that well luck will be on my side... I guess

[wild hemlock]

Figured it would be us lol. I took out prev 2nd place in the promo tournament by like an inch

[covert lintel]

I bet for R same as blood

[pliant inlet]

Why this has to be so hard

[tropic summit]

@swift mango has crap RNG in the game, hopefully balanced out by his guessing game RNG

[swift mango]

You should check if Siren even stun....

[swift mango]

Just bet on left if in doubt.

[wild hemlock]

+1% = +0%

[keen vapor]

Hoping that maxed doll team lives enough to kill Scarlet after immunity goes out

[valid inlet]

Btw I was using the same comps last season and got knocked out in group stage

[valid inlet]

I see so many unpredictable matches here, both of us have chance I think

[covert lintel]

Nah, that team 2 is just a bonus
I'm guessing 1,4,5 would win
If only the right side is defender

[swift mango]

Right side isn't defender?

[covert lintel]

From my nikke experience, whenever my rosanna+sg are the atker team, they would die instantly to scar s2

My rosanna and SG are SR15& tempering btw, they still died

[covert lintel]

Idk, he could switch it out

[umbral belfry]

unfortunate

[tropic summit]

@swift mango he's drunk dw

[covert lintel]

Nah, just like one of coolest member, he switched out between atker and defender when giving out ss but he didn't tell me that

[quartz rover]

Is this faster than siren stun?

[tropic summit]

you should be good enough to expect that

consider all the chances

[quartz rover]

Using it for rookie defense

[tropic summit]

put no feed team + siren, e.g.

noah biscuit helmt siren laplaceT

and check the %feed they produce at 2RL, if it's above 7%, you're good

[covert lintel]

I can't cause i'm not an expert like you

[tropic summit]

i'm no expert, you are

i'm casual just like @swift mango

[fast nest]

Newbie's opinion
Right indom vesti
Left left would be faster
Right I think it would be hard to break zombie without indom
Left I guess.. because of bsoda+suga's code against scarlet...?
Left emil's burst.

[keen vapor]

RNG better and proc Scar skill 2 less

[tropic summit]

add the feed

that's just burst gen

[quartz rover]

It doesnt let me do that when vs

[tropic summit]

some ppl are the type that you'd need to put "don't drink" on shampoo

[keen vapor]

I think Vesti team is receiving 14% feed

[tropic summit]

low feed team + siren goes to 17%, your 92% to 2RL is well above feed requirement, so you're 2RL

[quartz rover]

So basically this defense team will make people mad and copy it

[keen vapor]

Oh

[keen vapor]

Wym I can Scar Siren it

[quartz rover]

of course

[keen vapor]

The answer is always scar siren

[tropic summit]

scar siren dies to it though

[pliant inlet]

hope that left will just somehow pull it

[keen vapor]

No way high ele is more likely to have high CS, hence, two shots blocked

[fast nest]

Who would win? Left attack right defense. Assume noah get focused rather than noise.
I guess biscuit's invincibility to noah would be duplicated with noah's burst.

[tropic summit]

no your problem is that you've to survive 10s of vesti indom because you're on B3 while opponent has already cast B2, unless you're running 1.5RL scarlet a-la-Rin

[placid bloom]

SBS cannot beat Noah Biscuit

[keen vapor]

I hate not being able to Scar Siren Check's Vesti Indom

[tropic summit]

B1 p1 2RL is just that stronk counter for siren

[quartz rover]

Should I unleash this defense in rookie?

[keen vapor]

Is Blanc P1 baka

[quartz rover]

Several people in the ladder are in my spa

[tropic summit]

if you wanna give free info to your entire bracket sure is

[tropic summit]

seniorita we talkin' about this one

if blanc looks like she's in p1, i can recommend you a good eye dottore

[keen vapor]

I said Check's one

[tropic summit]

who's that?

oh your opponent in your bracket

[keen vapor]

My local rival :frog sip:

[quartz rover]

Was going to say my helm had highest attack too so she can eat helm bursts but jackal linked

[tropic summit]

well assuming jackal goes invulnerable, you're at least reducing the dmg down to 2/3

probably still lethal

[keen vapor]

1 PM, Koharu time

[quartz rover]

Was checking and vesti has lowest hp so jackal wont be invul

[tropic summit]

what would Chime think of that if she knew

[keen vapor]

I'm giving her lessons

She has bad grades so

[quartz rover]

Ill just leave the 3rl siren abusable team in rookie defense

People dont use siren and just lose to it anyway

[keen vapor]

Oh wait, need to write things

Guess Shimoe-san will get an F

[fast nest]

But isnt it because biscuit invincible is followed by noah burst? 8sec invincibility. But what if biscuit's invin is activated before noah's burst?

[placid bloom]

Biscuit can proc twice

if you proc before Noah B2 then you can get some overlap on the invin

[fast nest]

Ah on same targrt?

[placid bloom]

yes

but it's nowhere near enough time to wipe the enemy team by the time it wears off

and SBS will be alone because everyone else is dead to Cinderella

[swift mango]

im just a brick

[covert lintel]

That's me
I'm not a 3% SR player, and i'm not even a champion CA player

[placid bloom]

SEA sufferers

[swift mango]

I'm not a Jill player

[umbral belfry]

@wet crystal cup and i need your help

[umbral belfry]

that left team is just asking for a misindom

but right should win that

[brazen ledge]

guys i need help i'm 1 bet away from loosers frame

i need help to know who to bet on

this is 1st guy

[fast nest]

Is 2nd guy def?

[wet crystal]

I don't know how I can help you lol

[wicked horizon]

Yo same

[umbral belfry]

do you have 15 cs on noah and another clip

[wicked horizon]

Maybe just me, but getting help with betting advice is impossible here though, unless it's someone who doesn't really give good advice.

[brazen ledge]

they just fight each other

[brazen ledge]

i hope this isn't the case

[wet crystal]

Noa17, other clips not at 17

[umbral belfry]

there is a test we would like you to do if able

noise noah vesti ada any clip, can you check if this reaches 2rl?

[placid bloom]

[umbral belfry]

it should judging from deck but we wanted to make sure

[swift mango]

Okay tomorrow I will farm and do 35 more pulls for the total 110 pulls. Then I would ticket Jill. And stop pulling until next year.

[wet crystal]

Oh, here's an issue, im skipping collab units

[umbral belfry]

watch you be unable to test bc cp gap

NOOOOOOOOO

[placid bloom]

[wet crystal]

Also yeah, cp gap

Huge gap

[umbral belfry]

lemme back in your rookie or sp folian

[wet crystal]

No, no, its chill here, in this lil pond

[brazen ledge]

@swift mango can you help pls ?

[umbral belfry]

no no I insist

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/travis-3times-and-you-lose-im-done-i-am-done-done-gif-27222501

[umbral belfry]

but yeah ty for answering either way

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/vince-mcmahon-crying-weeping-sad-mcmahon-gif-10381419856216029548

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-get-paid-enough-for-this-shit-i-quit-im-done-ive-had-enough-tre-melvin-gif-11340258

[brazen ledge]

[wicked horizon]

Blood's about the worst person you could ask too. =D

[tropic summit]

@swift mango tell him somethin' oi

[wicked horizon]

Railtracer helps people a lot, but doesn't seem to do CA matches.

Echo's helped me before (but he was wrong )

[brazen ledge]

if blood doesn't want it's ok

[wicked horizon]

It is unpaid labor. Can't fault anyone.

[brazen ledge]

i hope he never has to ask me anything ever though

[brazen ledge]

absolutely

[wicked horizon]

You know anything about PvP yourself and you just want someone to cross-check your guesses?

[brazen ledge]

cross check

[wicked horizon]

I'll strike you a deal.

You do mine, I'll do yours.

[brazen ledge]

it's not like i've sent a good 15k messages just helping ppl for... free ?

oh wait i should be tired

mb not like i got a good 13hrs of work today

takes 30 seconds for him to check

[wicked horizon]

My checks take like 10 minutes if we include punching both people into a speed calculator.

[shell hazel]

Railtracer just aura farms CA matches 🙂

[wicked horizon]

I think UR started, I have to be off.

[shell hazel]

this kind of worth right?

[brazen ledge]

absolutely not

[shell hazel]

5 x credit cases roughly for 4 x battle data ones

[gaunt pulsar]

with 40% discount maybe, if you really need it

[fast nest]

Credibility 10% because Im at low lvl CA user.
I guess (i didnt check nikkework)

1. 1stguy would win
2. 1st guy would win(if 2nd is def)
3. 2nd guy may win?
4. 1st guy may win because burst gen?
5. 2nd guy would win. Rosanna dead.(if 2nd guy is def)

[shell hazel]

1 : 1 : 3 normally

1 cd
1 bd
3 credits
is the usual going exchange rate

[swift mango]

I have around 100 pulls to farm. But that probably translated to zero jill anyway. The game probably would force me to ticket her. I might as well ticket her now. To not waste 100 pulls. But sigh.

[shell hazel]

you having my kind of luck with jill?

[swift mango]

More like you have my kind of luck with everything on your Jill.

[shell hazel]

[keen vapor]

Top
Top
Bot
Bot I think
that Poli Indom make me doubt Rosanna can make it

[wicked horizon]

Nero Moran beats Vesti, right?

[fast nest]

As I heard, if vesti is well invested, then she can crash nero moran.

If not, never.

[wicked horizon]

You'd think these guys are well invested, being the CA finalists. 🤔

[fast nest]

You can check her cp.

[fast nest]

Of course along with blanc.

[wicked horizon]

No Blanc, but they got Bay.

[fast nest]

If her cp is around 150k ish. I may go for nero moran.

[brazen ledge]

161k

[fast nest]

Then... idk. Someone will let you know. why dont you check vesti deck's previous match.

[tropic summit]

put it in nikke deck format and i can give it a check

this current format demotivates anyone

[wicked horizon]

Can you check mine?

[brazen ledge]

nikke deck format ?

[wicked horizon]

So it has the manual labor of who's matched against who and what the speeds are done.

[tropic summit]

sure when my game is done i can take a look, 20-40 min

[wicked horizon]

I'm putting my bets on top, top, bot, top, top

[tropic summit]

• likely top (should prevent B3 altogether, hard countered mana)
• top (outstalled)
• bot (noise, bay, biscuit dead, they're B1-less)
• RNG
• top

i'd favour top in that matchup overall

[wicked horizon]

Sounds good enough for me, thanks.
If this succeeds, I won't have to worry about one of the two frames ever again.

[pseudo arch]

This is current vesti investment do you guys think that this attack and elemental damage is enough for her to hit hard on arena with a damage reduction cube?

[tropic summit]

i'd get 11 or 15CS%, but the atk% is on point

ele is only needed if you want early anti unprotected wind code unit in p1/p2/p3

which is rare to run blanc/noah unprotected

[fast nest]

Low lvl CA user. So, credibility is very low.

Top
bottom - i guess no heal becauae of biscuit's invincibility and vesti kills the back 3. Vesti may not die by helm burst because of bay burst...?
bottom(i guess)
Nikkework analysis needed(+RNG)
Top

[pseudo arch]

Ok and crit rate is importante or just that line is enough?

[tropic summit]

atk% CS% ammo

crit rate can be cherry on top but i wouldn't want to rely on it

[sinful berry]

I open pvp
I see this
I close pvp

https://tenor.com/view/winslow-odd-fellow-walk-in-walk-out-catdog-gif-8298707

[tropic summit]

time to turn it back on

team is slow af and weak af 🍿

biscuit pops on p1 and p2, you scar-trina-rh they're left with jackal and blanc

[warm monolith]

Guys,has anyone had any bugs with the new guarentee ssr mold thingy?

[sinful berry]

No RH,
Trina not invested

[tropic summit]

https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/1420169131931467846

[tropic summit]

show your box let's see if you've any tools

[shell hazel]

sounds like we got a quitter on our hands Rail

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/weakness-disgusts-me-senju-gif-13079766

[shell hazel]

we don't raise quitters around here

unless you're actually gapped then fair enough lmao

[warm monolith]

Its so dumb funny😭 i thought i was getting a new missilis but then i realized i already had them all

[tropic summit]

nikke without bugs wouldn't be nikke

[shell hazel]

@nimble swan @hollow lagoon @cunning crown who we voting for? moran vs bear? I haven't even checked the teams

[warm monolith]

Still its quite funny,though i wished i wouldve actually got two lbs but i understand that would be more buggier

Did it happened to you?

[shell hazel]

it's not a bug as such think the dupes are display issue and you failed to get SSR

[warm monolith]

Oh

[hollow lagoon]

I voted whoever killed @cunning crown

[shell hazel]

it was moran guy then

[shell hazel]

with the blanc pfp

[warm monolith]

Well,i guess i got cb3 liter now

[cunning crown]

I'm morally obligated to vote whoever didn't

[shell hazel]

354 vs 321 surely we can make this work

[shell hazel]

it's legit - I'm almost accidentally winning all cheers

[cunning crown]

total bear victory

[sinful berry]

You'd be surprised....

[shell hazel]

1 more then I get the winning frame once more

[cunning crown]

[nimble swan]

That moran guy killed my frame today, I don’t want to vote on him

[shell hazel]

ah no always vote moran guy (or me, or yourself)

[shell hazel]

no we got this or you're massively 🧱

[sinful berry]

[shell hazel]

no pvp units on first 2 rows we're 🧱

[nimble swan]

Enemy rosa killed herself shooting at his scar

[shell hazel]

damn rosa haha

I beat moran guy once and tenshi, was both last season

nah we can do this surely?

you got lapT (good gen)
helmT (great gen)

we chuck a defender at p1 and we use biscuit = profit

[nimble swan]

Yeah when you won

[shell hazel]

what is your cp with auto team?

[sinful berry]

defender like Cindy or like Moran

[shell hazel]

no not cindy for sure

they have jackal we don't want feed

what kind of cp you run with just clicking auto? also how is your biscuit doing?

[sinful berry]

622k

[shell hazel]

damn lmao

surely we just gap them to death

[sinful berry]

The kind of starving where I haven't touched her char page aside from bond

[shell hazel]

is jackal or rumani at all ready?

[tropic summit]

oh oke you're lacking anti nuke, your only choice is an indom that can out trade with theirs

[shell hazel]

can't we just helm snipe?

[tropic summit]

namely RRH at least is available

[shell hazel]

like my vesti opp?

[sinful berry]

Wait holup I was. Checking the main roster for that list, pvp auto has Alice instead of Thelm

[tropic summit]

he needs to survive cindy 3RL

[shell hazel]

noah p2?

[tropic summit]

jackal and blanc are invulnerable, cindy can't be sniped unless he wipes

he has no noah

[shell hazel]

💀

[tropic summit]

he's gated by the lack of his tools

[sinful berry]

I have a Noah, just not invested Noah.

She got me through a specific tribe boss

[tropic summit]

then what is she doing out of syncro?

[shell hazel]

his cp is so high it may work

ah will it though? only 2 somewhat invested units 😄

and 3 babies 👶

[tropic summit]

32% deficit, opponent might hit for pebbles indeed

[shell hazel]

that's with campaign team

[tropic summit]

if anything cindy is no longer lethal past 24%

[shell hazel]

with a proper team it will tank probably to similar levels 😛

[tropic summit]

he could give it a shot with CP pad

[shell hazel]

vesti does true damage

[tropic summit]

he snipes vesti and facetanks cindy

[shell hazel]

if helm burst quick enough then you snipe vesti at least

[sinful berry]

Noah is row 4

[tropic summit]

he needs to be careful of feed units though

he can't afford dropping opponent to 2.5RL

else they're indommed

this box is bad for that matchup

[shell hazel]

rouge should survive to 2RL

especially at deficit in your favour

noah exists even if not that built, main b2, helm snipes vesti

we don't feed much here right?

what is the cp of this team?

[gritty ridge]

Can I block scar with manchor?

[tropic summit]

check CP, that team tanks it quite a bit

[shell hazel]

only noah tanks it

other 4 are on top row of power

[tropic summit]

you'll see what i mean

[shell hazel]

622k would drop to maybe 550?

or perhaps less, but we have anti-nuke now as long as vesti dies I don't see how this loses, cindy won't be lethal with noah shield up

[tropic summit]

better hope deficit does it's job

[gritty ridge]

Like, would this work as a stall?

[tropic summit]

20% deficit

from 32%

[hollow lagoon]

@nimble swan how’s ur union, wow actually solid looking, guess I gotta recruit a wild one

[shell hazel]

it is, still works imo

rouge p1 though

noah p2

[tropic summit]

noah taking true dmg on ele weak against vesti biscuitless

[shell hazel]

could noah p3 but helm p2 then

[tropic summit]

it's doll-less noah at it

this is ultra copium run if i saw any

[shell hazel]

or noah p5

rouge helm sbs lapT noah

[tropic summit]

it's jackal on blue doll, i guess you'll get jackal indommed at least while snipers keep shooting p5

[shell hazel]

it's rookie we need all the cope

[sinful berry]

I came in here to post what I identified as a "nope" and bro is tryna say "nah we can salvage this"

[tropic summit]

this is salvagable

[shell hazel]

try a run of this if you can, this order:
rouge helm sbs lapT noah

if you can record even better

[sinful berry]

Ok

[tropic summit]

rouge helmt sbs laplaceT noah

What happens:

2RL you snipe vestiTU, blanc and jackal should be invulnerable
you face tank cindy nuke
jackal is indommed
you kill cindy then biscuit then blanc, finally you've to let indom fade on jackal and finish her

[shell hazel]

rail may have another idea beyond this but no harm in sending one try

[tropic summit]

nono the plan is fine

[shell hazel]

helm should snipe vesti and maybe biscuit as well

[tropic summit]

if biscuit is linked

[shell hazel]

ah yes ofc

[tropic summit]

blanc on purple, biscuit on blue... who knows

[shell hazel]

snipe the linkerooni

[tropic summit]

might be actually a blanc linked

[shell hazel]

surely cindy doesn't link? she could though

[tropic summit]

my cindy is linked

40% atk does that

[sinful berry]

I won, but lemme trim the vid rq

[shell hazel]

yeah, it can do indeed

[tropic summit]

face tanking cindy nuke

[nimble swan]

It’s chill, and we are usually around top 2.6%.
What do you mean by wild one? lol

[shell hazel]

we didn't face tank it we noah tanked it 😄

[tropic summit]

he's about to invest in noah after this at least

[shell hazel]

honestly if you invest in 2 pvp units, it's noah and jackal

like those two are so damn useful

[hollow lagoon]

Was looking to steal u after raid if ur union cant day 1 clear and not in the 3% bracket

[sinful berry]

Sheesh

[shell hazel]

damn vesti got indom still

[tropic summit]

ofc he was 3RL

enemy B2 on 3RL

very lucky deficit did it's job

[shell hazel]

we're 2RL no?

[tropic summit]

nope

[sinful berry]

Dear god the timing of that Noah burst RIGHT before enemy Vesti

[nimble swan]

Oh well, uhmm let’s discuss after raid.
How’s your though?

[shell hazel]

it thinks we are

[hollow lagoon]

Day 1 clear 1.01-1.33% range

[shell hazel]

so what are we missing to be 2RL? helm skill?

[tropic summit]

look at ammo and burst timing

his helm probably is missing s1 invest

[nimble swan]

That’s pretty solid. Do you have some kind of coordination?

[shell hazel]

what is helm skill 1?

it's the only thing that could impact it I think

[sinful berry]

Helm 10-10-10 I think

[shell hazel]

please check

[tropic summit]

so cindy is still denying helmT s1 perhaps

[hollow lagoon]

We don’t really, slap announcement in discord, raid is live and people do them, skip 3 raids in a row without notice and we yeet u, u do low damage and ill laugh at you when i keep record but unless ur real bad nothing happens other than I comment on the spread sheet that you play NIKKE with only 1 hand

[tropic summit]

denies the procc due to decoy?

we saw this before on a nero/moran team vs a cindy p5

[shell hazel]

could be yeah

we'd need a higher burst gen b1 in that case or a better b3 than sbs

[sinful berry]

10-10-10.

[shell hazel]

damn so burst gen potentially still broken as you say then :9

[tropic summit]

doubt the calculator is wrong and there's no feed in play

only reason is cindy deying helmT burst gen on procc

[sinful berry]

Lemme see if I have.... there it is!

[tropic summit]

ye that's fine

[sinful berry]

This is the screenshot I use to ask co op what I'm playing as

[shell hazel]

did work fix lapT burst?

[tropic summit]

what treasure stage is helmT at?

[shell hazel]

it's max I can see it

[tropic summit]

then i guess it confirms it

cindy p5 still denies it

[sinful berry]

It's max but the shiftypad site doesn't show that for some reason

[tropic summit]

well only affects attack attempts and CA, so even if used in def helmT won't suffer

and on attack you can account for it

[shell hazel]

we need more burst gen though rouge is slow

sbs is also kind of slow

[tropic summit]

3RL is fine for his rookie

might aswell just run that copium team for now

[shell hazel]

well it seems to win anyway 😄

if we had jackal we'd likely be well in time

can you buff jackal or noah at all?

basic OL or dolls or w/e

[bleak shale]

idk if anyone cares but jill is added

im pretty sure its right i measured her firerate around 2.4-2.5

[nimble swan]

Haha that sounds fun. We got better recently after we flopped day1 a few raids back. Then me and another guy were rioting that some people never actually raid and sitting there being sync 500+.
After that I was hitting on lv8+ bosses only, with like sync 281 being among the lowest sync players.. just to make sure we get in day1.
But recently it works well as everyone does their job more or less.
Anyway, let’s discuss if you still need people after raid

[tropic summit]

thank you good sir for your work

[hollow lagoon]

Okie

[shell hazel]

i'm an officer in my union now apparently

so I have ultimate power

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[tropic summit]

hippo climbing the ranks and making career

[shell hazel]

I don't even know why lol

but I'm making use of it, I commanded everyone to do 100% more damage or face being kicked

then people rebelled

so I kicked everyone - now I'm alone in my union

[bleak shale]

officer i did nothing wrong dont arrest me

[shell hazel]

only if you do 100% more damage than usual!

[bleak shale]

i do 100% more dmg than runners up does that count

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/i'll-allow-it-gif-17514413855288578269

[oak hatch]

Would it be better if I replaced anis for Trina in this team?

[gritty ridge]

Nobody answered my question

[tropic summit]

yes, trina gives better CP

also you want to buff scarlet with trina over naga

scarlet s.anis trina naga rh

[oak hatch]

ty

[tropic summit]

depends, double buff scarlet will kill you

single buff scarlet you may live but your water code units are dead

[gritty ridge]

Does sanis even buff scar?

[tropic summit]

she does not

i assume he's running naga and s.anis to pad

[gritty ridge]

Even with the extra health?

[tropic summit]

yes, ele % multipler will make numbers go hard

[gritty ridge]

So a decent ele scar would wipe

[tropic summit]

absolutely

HP stacking is inferior to DR stacking so don't bother

[oak hatch]

Oh do I take her out? My Sanis is hardly built, I thought she buffed scarlet

[gritty ridge]

Cindy same thing?

[tropic summit]

if you got better flex than her sure can

[oak hatch]

Any suggestions?

[tropic summit]

cindy is lethal on single buff, assuming you stack HP with noise and anchor, maybe you could survive? doubt though, most cindies have ele atk% built for pve purposes

[tropic summit]

show your box

[gritty ridge]

Makes sense, im trying to see if I can workaround a stall team since I dont have built nero moran

[tropic summit]

noise bay
moran bay
nero moran
noise noah

noise jackal bay
nero moran jackal
bay jackal flex flex noise

[tropic summit]

this assumes it's a rookie team right

you're not building 3 SParena teams

[oak hatch]

It’s for sp arena

I’m running these three teams rn

[tropic summit]

jackal scarlet trina naga drake
crown anis rrh rouge centi
liter noah vestiTU viper RH

[gritty ridge]

Anyways, thank you for humoring my ideas

[oak hatch]

Thank you so much

[open jewel]

Should I change these team comps? (If there are any replacements I can make just know I have about every good arena Nikke but Rumani and Trina)

[tropic summit]

i've tested it myself, unfortunately HP stacking without DR is meaningless

a pseudo DR + HP stack is moran trina quiry flex flex

or ofc noise trina quiry flex flex

[gritty ridge]

So manchor gets to stay in pve then sadly

[tropic summit]

flex if jackal linked noise/moran/quiry can be even more effective

[tropic summit]

if they're losing on def sure

[gritty ridge]

Speaking of defense, I have a few more successful defenses in spa

Theres only 2 people I have to worry abt

[sinful berry]

https://tenor.com/view/gendo-neon-genesis-evangelion-anime-smirk-gif-14884772

[ivory violet]

Hey guys question about Soda stun. Soda gets her burst off 2 frames before jackal on bottom team. Does that mean soda stun could go off on jackal before jackal gets the chance to burst?