#pvp-arena
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I did and it's pretty disappointing
I'd have 420 of the new type of mold out of it
yeah but I can otherwise turn this into 5 60% drawers with potentially just R/SR the other 40% right
so on average 3 SSR with the 5 I can do and 2 junk ones
I previously hoarded 
Why do I only get 50 Pilgrim perfect molds despite getting multiple iDolls out of the OG molds 
they separated perfect and norm manufacturer molds
so we still get both
i'm going to wait until after NY pilgrim joins the possibilities to use my pilgrim molds
Theres no new elysion nikke rn, right?

Cuz if not manchor goes back in wishlist
I've opened my Perfect Pilgrim Molds
10 scar copies?
It's Scarlet yes 


w gif but isn't that c word 
I got you 
Hime like kids 
Hwat
Whats wrong with being cute and funny



She said C word is a W 
i said the gif used 


I love what

@tropic summit I beat it but didn't record
YOU TOO 


will a 2RL team burst faster than little mermaid stun

nitro
I always get free 1 month trial each year around sept - november

Ok nice i can put jackal p1
When
You can, but it limits your buff options
Jackal is basically only a buff for helm burst
Maybe rrh too, idr the wording
And helm nukes hard even witjout jackal
its okay i js need to win 2 battles, 2RL scarlet jackal on one team and the other team wins cos of overwhelming cp
wait what, wont she get stunned
Depends, lemme see her overload lines


Brother I dont think shes nuking
if the cp diff is negligible she wld still nuke no?
7 4 7, full ol should be your baseline for using her
yeah thats my investment alrdy, might go 10,4,10
Her nuke is not strong, she needs help. I have a person i fight in deficit and his scar doesnt nuke my helm
i have trina bursting second
It may help, like I said she really really wants attack lines
10 7 10 is what you should aim for
Full 10s eventually but I assume youre lowish sync
yeah lmao i js returned and made a new acc cos i lost my old one
i gave all my resources to pve 
Ah I was gonna say you could speedrun to 200 and get a CA win in bot bracket
im alrdy close to 200 and my CA is like 1st/2nd place
its js this one annoying guy w little mermaid that cripples my slower teams
Nah youre thinking of Special arena
oh yeah SA
CA is unlocked at sync 200
oh wait the new feature
but id get stomped by all the whales
i dont even have many pvp oriented nikkes like biscuit noise 
idt ca wld hv bot brackets
CA has so many bots
rly
i tot u had to be top 4 in SA
Fetus bracket is like 90% bots
player pool too small?
Could someone join the vc and help me out with sp arena please :)
Yeah
ig nikke is losing players 
Nah pvp is based on account date
anyways whats the benefit of CA anyways
If you get to lvl 200 much faster than normal people then your CA will be full of bots
ohhhh so each initial CA bracket is based on dates
but like the finals arent
i prob need another 2 weeks to get to 200, im js short on battle data rn 
The benefit of CA is the frames
Nah, there's iirc 5 CA brackets? @quick lake youre smart, whats the number

Extra arena vouchers as well
Echo, how many CA brackets are ther
Depends of server.
Global 8
Sea 3
JP 13 or something like that

How to know which one i am
But frames
Probably have to do with when account is created. Thats why ur CA bracket peeps dont change too much
Now i can also have K telling me if i won or not before i log the game

Have to record the replays to see how hard the whale lost to me

@umbral belfry cinéma 
this is a stacked top 8 
You hit the account age barrier, you were pushed into the higher bracket by the newer people
By time I join your bracket hime im gonna be your bully
Each passing day I grow ever stronger
Nuh uh, my scar is gonna materialize the indomitable human spirit and kill through bay
but I don't even use bay anymore 
Im not gonna be in your bracket for a while


My vesti will be finished next coop shop reset
Shes 4 7 6 rn with 3 manu pieces lvl 5
Btw, can I put vesti on a team with 4 passive atk buffers and have her wipe a team pre burst?
Assuming no biscuit
define passive atk buffers
Mmast, t.helm
idk about mmast
treasure helm should but also dependent on your atk rolls on vesti
Or like, what abt this team
if you're running trio I wouldn't do helm
I'd do lap or xmaid
but without emi to help trio I wouldn't even run it at all

Mmast is a bigger passive buff than helm
Heheh
Idk who else to put
Crown maybe idk
Idk why you deliberately pushing MG to PvPs
Nah i just wanna see how much dmg vesti can crank out preburst
Also if its attack team I can just not go for the jackal team
Your numbers show up in cherry 
Fun fact
Yulha doesn't proc at astart
She is dead weight
Oh really? I was wondering why yulha wasnt used in pvp
Cherry?
A color
Read mmast skills again she does nothing until u get a full gauge
Ah ur right, I had assumed that she started off in one stack
Ppl use default mast in pvp
i need default mast for my absolute squad😭
CS math is so silly man
gain cs to actually lose cs 
Something something 2 same value lines add together and then round up something something
Yeah I know the math but it's still really silly to actually see and then just accept that's just how it is
yeah my noise and noah have the same cs now though which is awkward
Adjutant cube fixes all problems
except noah getting blasted but yeah pretty much only option or i have to roll another blue line which is not fun
reroll one cs line out of noise lol
or yea jus use adjutant on noah to get 1 more frame
not all of them, still can't date your favourite 2D waifu
If you level it to 50 it actually gets you a wife who cosplays your waifus
You mean Emi battles
0%CS
Is that just the Emilia bug
Its just that vesti hitting 3 makes it more noticeable, plus vesti does good dmg too so it amps more
@tropic summit so I took back 1 as you saw yesterday, and bro not bothered to take it back so far, it's weird as they'll never maintain it so long as I can beat em
they're cooking their next teams
put in bio the following but translated in chinese: "run vestiTU indom 2RL"
Run ScarJacl 1.5RL
jackal vestiTU emilai blanc noir (assumes vestiTU is linked, run team in shooting range to conferm jumping jackal buff on her)
trina centi cindy helmt siren
noah biscuit rapunzel s.anis drakeT
quantum as provided in screenshot to ensure RL thresholds
build rumani, noise, laplaceT asap, these units will upgrade your teams
can consider rosanna and ada
increase CP on centi,. trina, noah, rapu
frankly I wish they'd just stop haha I won't be helping them 😄
I don't know if they even have the pieces for it, I've set the same def as them (they cooked my def for me) and I don't see the right units to move it to 2RL without compromising the other teams
we're currently on track for 4th season of SPA running where I'll get 1st
the only gems I spent was that 100 the other day
and that was for science
and enterrrtainnmentuuuu
they're trying to fight on an uneven platform with sync + core gapping so I'm not thinking they need me to help them
to be honest, they're providing you with something to mess with
at 0 cost as you don't need to even try to hold top 4
right, have learnt some stuff so some value there. Also they've changed def around a fair bit and so far not had something I can't beat
the odd challenging comp though to be sure, I'd be having more fun if we had similar sync/power and it was a case of throwing out unique teams to try to trip the other up
@swift mango time's running short 
either they confirm it's working as intended or suddenly reverse stonks
🍿
inb4 they make it even stronger instead 
instructions not clear, enemy team is now wiped upon entering battle
What bug you report? Vesti?
specifically the insane damage output on synchro charge speed
it feels rather silly because it directly buffs attackers
attack in general is already easy as is
imagine if you give a weapon that deletes anything within 1RL
i don't mind although if they state it's working as intended
which would be hilarious though 
did you manage to send them a video about it?
it's funny as the isue has very little feedback associated with it https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/1418279002812059831
haha made em lose to their own def 😄
that's 2 tries so I'll use my 2nd they can gem if they want to get it back
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I know there are bugs, but they don't seem to appear in these four battles.
how can I make sure vesti gets the buff?
@swift mango @shell hazel I finally did it broke my curse of my 397k, but the others have scored more than they already did 
They lived through a RH B1 boosted 10/7/10 SR15 invested Scarlet. You got to be kidding me.
noah
just die
Noah got stunned, Biscuit bursted
does noah make the other team immune to aoe even off burst?
where trina?
jackal?
you don't really need noah/biscuit if you're goal is to nuke them before they nuke you
I pulled Trina's banner 100 times back when it ran, didn't get her.
Jackal is on team one abusing the fact that the enemies team one had 2 MGs
I just need to stop using scarlet in PVP ever
Her damage is just terrible
even at small defict advantage boosted by RH she still can't do any damage
Does she just need 4 attack and 4 ele black lines with level 5 gear to do something to the enemy team when she bursts?
cindy buffed nuke instead of scarlet may work better here
or another main dps like rapi even
or vesti
No Cindy, could just build Rei 2, her nuke has higher damage if I recall
Nah
you'll get stuck on trying to kill biscuit locked noah even with the stun and biscuit b2
then cindy will nuke you, you could slow down speed to catch cindy nuke in time
Actually their burst did nothing
I blocked all of it, just lost the gun fight after
rei 2 is no better at nuking than scarlet really, she's budget scarlet
Because of the whole reviving noah thing
I thought her burst had higher damage then scarlet
it's just similar
or main burst with RH think you hit P5 so eat them in reverse
alice then cindy
biscuit/noah is killed last
also nukes their B3's so no burst at all if you're quick enough
biscuit will make cindy immune though, you want to waste at least one biscuit stack on noah
Biscuit, Noah, Cindy are just a super annoying Trio.
Forces me to use Noah since there is basically no stopping her burst
yes could just skip that and beat the other two teams
think im hard stuck for a while look at how everyone's ahead of me by such a large margin
recently got drunk scarlet so i slotted her in immediately
sooo how's ada in PVP?
what's the team to use for her?
its just your usual fast burst indom or noise noah dps tbh, can use her as main dps or just support another. one video I seen multiple times :
isn't this team extremely slow?
oh no i guess t. helm saves the day as usual

@karmic smelt I thought you would finally win
Same
What’s the results like
5-0 again
Completely crushed
alas
wtf lmfao
@short moon I pray you voted correctly
Hacks
Man I swear to god it’s rigged
I’ve been getting 5-0 or 4-1 all across this season
Wow my stall lost, I guess it’s what I get for only raising moran and Nero to 9
Like how did I not win the first round I’ve got 20+ cs line up

mana version is weaker than others as well I think tbh

lapT or xmaiden seems to do better
xmaiden(best at low investmnet)-laplace-mana---rh strong wild card... bayT full team OL check
unlucky, power of friendship failed us and zael lost also 🙁
More like my tempura cube is bad
full chinnit semi finals
And my skills are only 9
SR15?
Mana does get mauled by Nero I guess
she didn't really do much for you here yeah
otherwise work to be done I guess, same as mine, need more investment in places
depends if worth vs more pve build
Mana need tempura cube instead of the health cube she has atm
3 more months for me of mainly pvp stuff before I'll switch priority focus
My PvP is done as can be
the 5 units need tempering in DR team
My tempering only have like 3 slots
yep

need more lvls on that cube
but I'll build the new meta pilgrim in the middle here
nero SR15+tempering lv7 and skills at 10
Any more investment for me in PvP is no go
@shell hazel mission failed 
scar soda beat stall bc helm stunned but my stall lost to sgs 
you only need the cube at lv7 and SR15 on nero+ moran burst lv10 that is the minimum
Literal any PvP investment at this point is for CA only

you can min-max cindy, she is really good in CA and get stronger at higher sync lvl
phoric champion run
new pie union upgrade?

yeah I'm in the newest pie, I used to be in creme
this man has enough sync already
phorics a good guy tho so I'm happy for him @placid bloom 
I have 2.26M CP zant I'm coming for you
it's not even pie 
I literally can just reduce whatever I fight in as into fine mist with pure sync
Not enough, come anni I’ll hit 501+

where is the strawberry pie?
if it was up to me it'd be called piecrust
playing the game as intended, SU must be proud of you
but the meringue is not a pie 
too long name 
that's like saying chocolate chips are a pie
don't look at me I didn't make up the name 

i didn't know hime was NA
Perfect defense is the power of 100 sync I guess
Hime is the NA ✂️ champ
yessir 
what is your lowest cp team zant?
well, i can beat people at 100 sync more and my highest lvl diff was like 150 lvls; if you get the cp advantage your stall teams will be stronger by a lot
Same story tho, 3-2 to tenshi's killer, unlucky
not there yet 
yeah unlucky 🙁
moran guy is strong
we rebuild for next CA 
Total anne victory thoughever 
rosanna p5 a must
post anne investment 


tbh if teams become fast enough she actually becomes good again
I already did the 20 advice session for Anne
not a lot of buffers have that fat of an Atk buff
me I just quick advise as much as possible 
Idk if she better than bay tbh
Kinda don’t wanna build
Too much resources sunk into PvP already
I have decent 5 teams and and 100+ sync
Ther than CA there’s nothing for me to use all that PvP power
Even if some one matching my sync does comes along I’ll still pulverize them
xanne over bay?
xanne is better for SG team, bay just give a few more seconds but that is not something you want in SG team, you want to kill fast so, xanne- poliT-another SG or just fill with blanc
U gonna have to explain the my bay sg killing a Xanne sg situation then
for "mirror" there are more things that units, you have to think about stk priority, elements, positions and ATK/DEF diff
the first step is rosanna diff, can your rosanna oneshot without s2 proc?
I donno prob didn’t but it’s @shell hazel’s sg team
Which means more invested
How invested are your sg units?
My drake is 7/7/7 on mid af ol rolls and level 3 gear except boots
I voted correctly but I believed in your soda stun 🐴
my sg team kind of weak as well tbh I'll likely upgrade a bit after anni
Lel give me 1000 rocks and I’ll think about it
elements matter for different match ups like bsoda+sugar to kill electric p1, easier for scarlet or noise p1 teams, water Sgs against stall(nero) or drake+bsoda+noir for more balanced team
in CA it's mostly rng on who you face so want a reasonable mix of elements
then if you can't reroll try to focus in elemental dmg and fill with drake-bsoda-noir
atk is betterr for neutral, but if you hit a unit with weakness you get a "extra SG"
My account ain’t even a year old, like I said give me 10000more rocks I’ll roll shit

ty for believing in soda stun bc that did happen and yippie for you still saving your cheer
Hopefully you'll get your frame 
a curse?
20 ish rock helm, does the job
that's really good for 20 rocks for sure
Mean while 30 rocks into rapunzel still won’t give me that last CS I need to take off adjutant cube
that is really good
mine is just a bit more ele and atk
4atk/ele- 3cs-1crit rate i don't know if i want to roll the crit rate because all the rocks wasted on helm were for 1st line reroll
My standards is 2 ele, anymore is cool, atk is great, crit is ok
my problems are dupes and sync lvl
Give me another year and I’ll change my standards kek
i play with 30+% deficit on sp
I play with 40-50% deficit on sp
my helm but I think I went a lot more than 20 rocks lol. I need to add CS to the helm itself, and I won't get 21% CS ever without adjutant or rolling one of the CS's to be better
but i'm in the lower end
That ammo roll rip
1 ammo for pve auto?
no I just haven't had the rocks to roll it off
1ammo on helm is fine
My units have crit lines there’s no way I can accept ammo line 
i plan to build my nero and moran with DEF/Crit so no ammo helm help for normal attack dmg
I don’t even know what my Nero has
if akrij fails it now I'm blaming you
for pvp* you aim main stat+DEF+crit rate/ele dmg mix
Oh charge damage on Nero, fancy
Bro the chance of my invest in Nero’s lines is like prob mid 2026
main dps full dmg
support/defender RLs 4cs/DEF-(2-3) ammo and ele dmg (cp boost)
support/defender- 4DEF/(2-4) crit rate - atk for stats manipulation (skills priority) and ammo or ele dmg
I do have 2 def but thous are line 1 with 2 empty’s
sure, i will take it
I think I’ll hit level cap before I get to your PvP unit standards 
i'm waiting for SU to make a OL event with higher %for good lines or tier reroll
played for 2 years with free OL and only reroll lines after ssrrapi- a bit for helm before that
now i only try to get the effects on the pieces and wait
20 days more and I can be 501 and blast through behemoth
you almost at end of the game again 
time to start building anchor for snake
Well it would have 42 chapters so I didn’t close my distance
Idk about build, what I’m I even suppose to do
Roll lines on a support?
cp pad lines be fine
8/9/8 seems fine
Have you even had characters that just love to come to you
water units are niche but you will have her
I sware mast and anchor maids are weighted differently
i only pull during limited, pilgrim or meta and most of the time is 200 pulls for 1 copy
both are good with dupes, but i would prefer mast over anchor
My maids are max core for whatever reason, and I only pulled mlb during banner
Oh ur on snake? That's my best boss
watchu need help with
then maids/bready/helm/siren-ssrapi that will be your team
My strongest water unit is still QeQ
I knew our bready main would show up 🙂
Rapi>siren here
My Bready is not invested yet
it help to destroy the DoT things but if siren have more cp that is betterr
Shes ele weak too, dies very easily to the breath
right
I’ll find out when I get there
Manchor should be 7 8 10 minimum for snake, mast 10 10 10.
:> tys just have to figure out if piggy will win or not
as for me I need 421 for what I think is CC part 3
Well ofc
I have 8+ level of crates
Snake is the boss I hold lowest clear for in normal, and I plan to do the same in hardmode
yeah
Behemoth is dps check kek
Behemoth is big dps check
My 3 atk 3 ele Cinderella apparantally not good nuff
Behemoth is also a timing check
Sounds better than my 4 ele nothing else cindy
whale is the best boss in the game... the problem is the stats penalty, in tower is a skill check and for campaign you need the dmg or cp
am just trying to see how many crates/levels I can get before anni now, but I boosted my main outpost a bit so I think it was worth crating to 401 the other day
By the 40+try on behemoth you basically know exactly what to do, timing check is kind of null at that point
1month?
probably around 500 more
That only works if youre not clinically dumb like me
depends when new chapters come
think I can get more than 500 due to hard mode
that is about 250 on day 1 of hard mode on it's own
you know that the update will come during anniversary,no reason for them to drop the patch 1 week earlier and have less content for anniversary
Serviceable but need fixing 
last chapters got delayed don't forget
they could delay the next ones a bit, not impossible
yep, we are 3months behind because collabs
what is strongest spa defense comp nowaday chat,
Bro no ammo roll is like no ammo on a mg
when anni livestream anyway?
I put in my work with it trust
3weeks more(?
Manual reload like a Bigboi?
let us know what is coming for anni etc
I had to for behe
Bready overspec and miranda treasure part 2
I have one instance where I need to manual reload Cinderella, I can fight to the very end but I still have 1450-1500 bars of hp left, prob gonna blast through it when I hit 501 tho, currently 488
no more treasure until next year
No miranda is getting 7 seconds of cdr added to her kit trust
Gib leona a heal and some cdr and SG team b2 can finally be locked in 
yep, leona treasure was better than tove treasure
Quat?
treasure supposed to make better old units or the ones that people didn't use
tove is and was meta before her treasure
Come to think of it Leona don’t need both heal or cdr… could literally work with just either
Since Bsoda exist for extension
if the leak I heard about is true, one potential treasure that was mentioned was for a unit that wasn't even that old. I'm sus of this though 
Who
and if the case they should just fix the kit
I can't say here mods will kill me, I can dm you what I saw
nah gotta make you spend maint kits for no reason 
can you tell us about your dream?
Sora Treasure? 
i'd definitely back a feedback item if it comes true but I'm still
of it tbh
it's not Sora but it's someone fairly recent
don't bother guessing, there will be no yes or no even if you guess right
I told you in DM if you want to post here you can 😛
you just need to know 
Hopefully, a water pilgrim and a wind pilgrim

Isn't vesti/Emilia 1 tapping half the enemy team before even bursting a bug?
I'll probably focus on the new main pilgrim should be broken even if only for pve that's fine
well anni pilgrim mandatory to work on 
my wind units are dead, i would like a new wind pilgrim
2nd one like grave could be good (or a decent b1 be nice)
idk about broken, Cinderella is good but using her for mobbing is cancer, grave got Ade creeped, the only 2 universally good units are Siren and Rapi
it is... but it doesn't matter for him, both of his units are full neutral dmg
I suspect they won't make her super super broken tbh
but she should be very good
if she's on level with rapi or thereabouts I'm happy
more pve units are always fine; i can skip normal units
My 2 ele 2 atk 1 cs sbs is good nuff to kill kraken
Can’t be that bad
1 ele sbs/wasuka
Took like 20 ish rocks
My wasuka has orange gear
i hope we get new mechanic, like rh or cindy
re-enter b3 😮
finally... a cdr b3
I hope Cindy gets a treasure to shoot straight or hitscan beams
In fact, if there is no bug, the damage of vesti/Emilia is enough to kill anyone.
cindy is the strongest unit in the game... but helmT is the best
If your Vesti has 8 crit
20s B3 with cdr 
slippery road to treasure pilgrims I think which is why we got arcana and such
treasure nikke form
then you can truly run utility B3 buffer
I'd actually like a 60s B3 but it's super strong lol 😄
Cindy is strongest single target without parts unit in the game, helmT is universally good
3 bursts in a boss run, can't use until 40s has passed
Cindy has very clear flaws

But I still love my Cindy
180s B3 
I think I left my Cindy on wishlist for too long
we need the boss rush with debuff every time you reach full burst or make a rotation, a way to make isabel and og vesti good
I get the feeling any 60sec b3 would be insane in pvp probably
just put a min timer on using it
starts on CD or so
or can't use until another b3 has gone, it won't be strong then
or it's stronger with two previous b3's and works by being the 3rd one essentially the best
Then again Vesti might be the best unit to ever exist in pvp atm by nuking entire enemy teams in 1rl so maybe crazy good 60sec b3 is fine
@shell hazel here’s the story, I left Cindy on wishlist till core 6, didn’t get a copy of her for 2+months and I’m like, what I’m I doing? If I get core 7 I’ll feel bad for every Cindy I every pull after, then I took her off wish list, then proceed to get her on random banner pulling Lel
my cindy is core 1 not sure I'll ever get core max :9
there was this pokemon called dondozo
i barely get any pilgrims usually
imagine a b3 of something like that
they can def play with the b3 mechanics a bit and a pilgrim is a good way to do it
I don't want hyper manual play heavy but something to do diff could be good
B milk banner gave my 5 pilgrims while pulling B milk to mlb, ADA gave me 4
yeah I don't have this kind of luck
instead I'd spend 200 pulls and get 0 pilgrims
I'm going to pull for ada/jill after the reset
200 pulls =1copy
1 SSR only lol
for mihara banner i got 3 times elegg and i had to ticket mihara
yeah I had to ticket mihara after more than 200 pulls no miharas
yep
hopefully ada/jill don't take too much to come home
when i reach* 230 i just ticket the unit
I get 1 copy only and then run away
you will get both with those collab tickets
I'd love it but I really don't count on it lmao
@umbral belfry Rip you did your best bro 
Well Jill prob come today
she does yes
no uses for ada in pve or pvp at the moment
wada wong first tenpull 
i'll just get 1 copy not going for MLB or anything
and indom is almost the same for other main dps
saving mostly for anni and mileage for the inevitable 1% banners
No use for Ada in bed either
collab crow
xmas belorta
xmas rh
I Wouldent mind Xmas Brlorta
we needs it
i would like a treasure for scarlet or a new alt
She’s not that annoying, I only got her from pilgrim mold like twice
if they do a treasure for a pilgrim it would be an older one like harran or isabel imo
and they'd probably also need to make it a drake type event so everyone can get it
harran
isabel got arcana
if not they'll be acused of being too whaley
Feel like their way of treasuring pilgrims is just units that nich that kit
or at least spare body would need to be in perm shop for silver mileage like noah is
ah she's elec AR, but will not be pvp focus imo
i remember now that i think about the DoT
you don't want reload with jill because you skip reload animation
well you can test when her banner is up
Will find out anyway, I recall she locks her ammo count to 1
During burst anyway
Debating if I should put ol on Isabel, but I’m low on pilgrim attacker gear
maybe i could copium 3% solo raid without invest in anything this round
arcana only need skill level
and arcana/trina/scarlet/isabel is a good option for T4~T5
or just arcana+cindy for main electric team
i'm set sanis with scarlet cuz my scarlet need the reload speed
a pie wins, I have no regrets 
Speaking if pies, the guy who beat Radeki was my shardmate. I’m so proud of him

He might actually beat Piggy too. I’m a bit unsure about T1 and T5 thou
T1 is a Poison comp mirror match, with my boy BB having less CP than piggy but that may end up working in his favor (lower CS). T5 has his Scar comp going up against Piggy’s 2RL Noise-Noah-Vesti team. The duo gets stunned for sure because they hit Soda, but idk if Scar survives to burst thanks to Besti
Hang on, I should make a deck comparison
Its for my cheer streak, so it matters to me lol
and you call this work?! 😄
I bet he must be cute
I think t1 and T2 complete rng, t3 is just noise or noah taunter check, and t4 and T5 are attacker need more thoughts on this
@umbral belfry @tropic summit

precisely
55 grams of protein
Nah,i cant qualify 😦
Brother I didn't make it to ca lmao and this is forwarded
Bottom does win atleast 2/3
@warm monolith can you send noah noise team replay?
Aaaw looks cute. Gonna look even cuter in my stomach
Alr,itll take a bit tho
You have like 20h to vote, take your time
I put bottom at 4/5 if im being honest
Which one btw?
Sg have trouble eating through cindy
The second one?
bottom should win I agree
If noise die due to self taunt + rosa well it is a burst less team
And that can actually lose out here
top is def right?
Ye
Also if noise taunts sg, rosa might oneshot noah aswell but I don't think this affect much

Main factor I see is noise surviving rosa
T1 can go any way / rng
t2 bot
t3 bot
t4 likely top / rng
t5 leaning bot
@fathom rock wifi is bad sadge
t1 - def could win but it relies on killing scarlet past jackal link removal.
t2 - att should win stall vs cindy
t3 - att wins sg's can't chomp through biscuit locked cindy
t4 - def should win I don't know if unlinked soda at p2 will live
t5 - att should win blanc with vesti which counters moran dr
there's a high chance emi + vesti kills scar preburst yes
but if soda stuns blanc for example I can see scar winning assuming she's even alive
soda unlinked at p2 also eating vesti nuke pre-2RL

yeah I'd give def match 4
Anyways, could anyone please help me with my cheers? Top is defending and bottom is attacking. Crossed out teams are the losers:
R1: toss up but I think it might be BB. Its an indom battle so lower CS (as seen through him having lower CP than Piggy) may snag him the victory
R2: Piggy. Pretty self explanatory
R3: Piggy. Also pretty self explanatory
R4: Leaning towards BB. His Besti may just straight up kill the SGs before they kill Noise
R5: Idk but leaning towards BB? Noise and Noah gets stunned by Soda, but would Scar survive Besti’s assault to burst? His scar is SR15 and 133k CP
And noise wouldn't kms via taunt?
Its taking a bit so ill explain,this is the only team that lost in the yesterdays match
she could I guess it's the only b1 lol, but even if she does they still aren't easy to chomp through with auto attacks thanks to biscuit
I'm almost home to load vid
depends if she has taunt prio over noah
That what above vid is for prob
yeah noise gets taunt prio
what a dumb move lol, she could well taunt some SG's and die
Well dead noise and a potentially dead noah, can cindy biscu bay solo their entire team burstless
she'll taunt drakeT and Noir at the least
She taunts enough sg that an invested Rosa kills her
yeah rosa goes for highest atk so yeah, very good chance they can't burst
Cool and all but i dont understand any functions of it,whos winning?
Alright,thanks guys,if i win this too ill get my first ca frame 🙂
see what rail thinks when he's online
Ill try to qualify for the ca too,does ca give out gem if u win?
yeah in the end could be some rng though I think some matches are more obvious
it does not
Ça only reward is flexing a frame
Anyone?
i'm not even using mine 😄
Dang

now go for ur second champ.
Thats the plam

T1 : go try analyze their cs from yesterday match frame by frame 
Cp not an indicator of cs
T2 : def win I think
T3 : invest check™
T4 : sg might kill centi , if not then besti team win
T5 : unless soda specifically stuns jackal and noise or just noah then scar team wins, otherwise vesti is besti and cs diff can make it so that noah can burst before scar even if stunned me dumdum 
@glad glade

Losing frame you cheering for?
R1: Yeah can’t do that. Ironically Radeki’s SG team beat BB’s poison comp before they were able to burst
R5: Noah gets stunned for sure thanks to that taunt
Trusting the others is the key
Yeah me dumdum 
Well that's rough 

It is what it is. I’m betting more on Piggy having greater CS thou, as I’ve personally fought BB before in SPA. The guy has less invested units in PvP than Piggy
🐷 champ run?
Again? 
Can anyone help me with SP defense teams?
Maybe? What do you think of the cheers?
I've been distracted enough here already if I'm honest I have work to do 😄
dnd mode activatu
I may check later if you remind me
Grim. How unlucky.
Sure, I gotta sleep a bit anyways
At 12 32 pm?
Its 9:30 where I’m at. My work starts half past noon and I woke up too early for CA analysis
ket in the futute
@umbral crown you losin' this? noway 
mf running the bug abuse team
other 4 are template CA teams, cindy noah, nero moran, sg team, scar-soda
Never
Imma trust my scar
see if they abused in previous matches?
it's a pretty strong team even without knowing of the sync shots
yes it is but the purpose is clear as day
tbh if I had emi I'd have likely wound up running something like that
and I'd not have known about the sync thing if I did, not saying they're not abusing that
but it's a fairly cookie cutter speedy vesti indom (though costly lol)
ironically the blanc in p2, if unlinked, is a bad decision
as mirror vesti would shred her to pieces via ele weak
is emi an attacker?
guessing she is
I mean that team has jackal + 3 attackers, no hope for blanc to link
max core blanc vs 0lb vesti and emi though
ye she is
Wait you've fought me in SP before?

I can tell you most of my units are in the 11-14 cs range
Hey @tropic summit 
Just at a glance looks like piggy win
Doesn't look like cs matters for any matchup here
Can you help us w this?
jackal sbs blanc centi draket
naga helmt noir bAde siren
crown biscuit ein rh rumani
oh you mean for betting?
Yep
note: that noise seems to have taunt prio over noah for the noah team
Its my last bet for ca frame and i got hit up w this
T1 is RNGy on scarlet and SGs build, rest seem pretty straightforward
you think they still win even if noise taunts and dies and they can't b1 anymore?
oh maybe noise dies to rosanna and 2 SGs so i guess SG team could win as they're def, make it into 3-2 for top
that's a good observation
we have a video showing noise taunting siren in a diff match
if you already know noise taunt prio then it changes that match ye
@tropic summit
so she def has taunt prio
still sg's gotta chew through biscuit immune defenders a bit
without any sustain
this seems more likely ye
well enemy team can't burst without noise
they'll get out traded by that team
2rl vs 4+rl Cindy mirror. Thoughts?
So who to bet?
bottom one should win
cindy could get a lucky crit and kill rumani but that is SR-15 looking fairly built rumani
Do you know which 2 tanks will get the biscuit buff?
everyone will shoot at blanc on bottom team
because cindy decoy is target skip
so 5 RL units will splash cindy + blanc + mihara
so likely burst cindy decoy and therefore it will go to cindy and blanc probably. Cindy burst may not kill rumani though
if rumani survives then indom someone + mihara dot + noah shield ends so bottom can wipe then
Chat if I were to make an alt to speedrun to CA, who would I be rerolling for?
scarlet
I assumed scarlet and vesti
pilgrim harder to get
don't do it
you'll just burn out playing multiple accounts
now you have twice the dailies to do as well
Im kinda stuck in a no progress point rn
play something else meanwhile it's better return on time spent :p
don't, you'll just burn out
if you really positvely must do though, i'd aim for RH
one of the best units you'll need for pve maldin' and contributes to pvp in all phases
Now that I think abt it id have a month to get 4, maybe 5 pilgrims
On top of specific pvp units
So no use for tVesti and S.Anis?
What would I need to slot them in at some point?
Rh, scar, noah, cindy, and siren
if you're going to bother re-rolling then the anni seems like the best time to actually do it
most pulls and such to start with
don't think you'd get that many on a new account now?
s.anis is situational
vestiTU can sub SBS once her CP is higher
but I'd say just play something else and idle the nikke whilst you wait
Im betting on atk then?
there are other gachas coming out/already out if you like the gacha style games
I play 2 total gachas hippo
nikke and nikke? 😛
Battle cats and nikke
guy on bottom should be either 3-2 or 4-1
Yk its not a joke anymore actually 🙂

Alright,thanks railtracer
Yeah thats why I dont play my original account
best to stick to 1 nikke then for your own sanity 🙂
Im just worried its gonna be a long time til I get my win
in CA?
you welcome, although the best advise is getting several ppl opinions
then just bet on the team that seems more likely
Yeah, I basically have until I get shuffled up to win
I did put forth my opinion earlier Rail 🙂
I originally thought attacker then I saw the noise 
some rng involved but after that I pref defender
you were the other opinions 😄
hehe
Thanks.
Any particular unit i need to get to improve my team options? (Already got Cindy and Scarlett on wishlist though they elude me with prejudice)
Oh is this the one I also gave an opinion on? Or is it a different one
vesti can also sort of play cindy role tbh
wide aoe nuke but it's just a bit slower/more delayed than cindy is
you can vesti main nuke on one team and SBS on another for example
Unfortunately, currently my t.vesti is at her ceiling for the time being.
Rotten rng with OL, while I already have pilgrim t9+ set ready for Cindy if she decides to show up.
I try to improve tvesti every chance I get though.
you'll get there, try and get into a 10% co-op run when it's up at least once
you'll get the t9m selectors then
Also dolls.
Game shafts me with rl dolls hard while giving me sg ones.
Same😭
doll rng is a fickle mistress
I'd build out some of the cp on the units in the teams initially. You need a Noah ideally
so bump up centi/rumani a bit
jackal ofc but she's already pretty high on your list
you could build trina some as well as a good flex b2 battery, works best with scarlet or moran but she works fine alone also
Yeah Centi, Rumani and Trina are all on my progression list. Though without Dolls their cp scaling is borked
Bay can work as Noah-at-home but you're 2 dupes away from
at least meanwhile keep her in bond thing to max out when you can
otherwise try to prio pve stuff that pushes you, and some units have dual purpose ofc like SBS and Vesti
2 dupes? I can get 2 dupes rn with silver mileage. If I correctly understand you.
for Bay? if you really lack Noah and don't think you can get her, she's an option to add
Noah being pilgrim means she appears tomorrow or maybe in a year? 😄
but even if you get Noah not like Bay is useless, she can help in various ways
I have 600 silver mileage which I was kinda saving for Noah dupes 
potentially worth going for her treasure then, can still dupe Noah once if you land both
and you'll get more silver mileage anyway
my goal is to core max Noah with silver mileage some day, will take a while
Now the issue is freaking rl dolls...
yes 
also too much pvp vs pve can slow down campaign progress
we have a new meta pilgrim inc this month
I do have sr selector which would be terribly inefficient...
personally I will build that next
if you're doing OK in pvp no need to rush Bay necessarily
push cp on any units you use in both a bit and consider saving for the new pilgrim some
I'm in a position where I'm in top2-5 but people start to push. Not enough to complete shut me out but signs are there that if I don't do something in a few weeks I'll be staring at top 10 at the most
Yeah even though you put lots of investment of pvp, if you are far behind of cp, pvp investment is useless.
sync is the best defence
being ahead on both campaign modes if you can
wiping out a bit extra (I spend a bit so do it anyway)
buying extra hard mode tries for core dust etc
I've old screenshots in this very channel where my rivals had similar cp to me, or were even ahead
now they're eating dust down the list
jan this year
top guy, now 3rd
3rd guy, like 8th
5th guy 12th
6th guy ???
When is the time of shuffle of SP?
it's every 3 months, we're about 8 weeks into the latest cycle
so a month from shuffle or so
people fall behind and don't stay slim/efficient they lose on SPA rankings in the long run
I had a new whale added to mine last shuffle who spends more than me so was ahead on cp but I've just been beating them up anyway lmao
hoping they throw them elsewhere this time and I get some peace back, but instead I expect they'll inject more whales
Here is low lvl CA. There are 2 champion frame users but they are stucked into 32 mirror container. If shuffle is done and they have bad luck, they may not have chance to promote CA.
Right top guy who lost already pushed ziz within 2months. Kekw
Its me, 지휘관
Whats up bro. Its good to finally meet you
It does for the first match. Whoeever has the lower CS would win here because its an indom battle. The rest depends on counters thou, except for when it comes to Noah
Someone sneakily tried to hit me yesterday. 
Okay time to test my team on the whale again. 
it was me
Why did that guy hit not more than 2times? use more jewel and give dopamin.
No it was me
I wished I could save. Anytime I saved up 200, I needed one copy for a treasured unit.
Hi, I’m looking for new teams for a special arena because I can’t handle it anymore.
cs matters because whoever burst first loses cindy decoy, but slow cindy is inherently unstable match. mihara poison means that indom is probably not going to go on whoever you expect. either way, piggy counters me on the other 4 matches so just vote for him
if it happens that poison gets onto cindy, that could cause the faster indom to still win
but with decoy in place the chance of poison on everyone is only like 8%
i wonder if piggy copied my positioning for this team, I adjusted in anticipation of meeting mirrors, the more popular orientation with mihara in front is by a fellow taiwanese guy who optimized for his own investments and bracket
same time zone
finish building vestiTU, get laplace treasured, improve CP on your utilities and batteries (biscuit, noah, noise, centi, rumani, trina etc)
absolutely shafted on ada and jill pulls
270 pulls to get 1 copy of each
and all the SSR I got alongside this was:
1 x eunwha (the normal one not the new decent one)
1 x bready (hi @gritty ridge )
1 x mast maid
1 x poli
so 270 pulls for 6 SSR 💀 and once again no pilgrims
average luck puts that at 10.8 or even rounded down, 10 lol
reminder that someone in this chat didn't find a single cinderella during her rate up in over 500+ pulls
did you at least get some other stuff? my rapi and midhara luck was similar tbh
at least those are worthy of burning mileage on
@gritty ridge your skills are required
I would've quit after that kinda mental anguish
beating the odds in the worst way possible
I wish they published the actual odds we got because I'm certain I'm way below what I should be 😄
I had a bad feeling going into this one lol
thats why they dont have pull history 
what floor was the whale on for elysion or tetra or w/e Rail?
30 pulls for Ada, 10 pulls for 2 jill

nope









