#pvp-arena

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shell hazel
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yeah it's almost 60k

crystal flicker
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I did and it's pretty disappointing

shell hazel
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I'd have 420 of the new type of mold out of it

shell hazel
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so on average 3 SSR with the 5 I can do and 2 junk ones

keen vapor
shell hazel
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I didn't necessarily 🙁

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I'll get more when I use my tickets though

crystal flicker
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Why do I only get 50 Pilgrim perfect molds despite getting multiple iDolls out of the OG molds pepehmmm

shell hazel
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they separated perfect and norm manufacturer molds

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so we still get both

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i'm going to wait until after NY pilgrim joins the possibilities to use my pilgrim molds

gritty ridge
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Theres no new elysion nikke rn, right?

umbral belfry
gritty ridge
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Cuz if not manchor goes back in wishlist

crystal flicker
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I've opened my Perfect Pilgrim Molds

gritty ridge
crystal flicker
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It's Scarlet yes ScarletSmug

gritty ridge
keen vapor
umbral belfry
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w gif but isn't that c word police

crystal flicker
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Hime like kids poggies

umbral belfry
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yucky

gritty ridge
gritty ridge
umbral belfry
shell hazel
umbral belfry
crystal flicker
umbral belfry
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i said the gif used MilkHuh

gritty ridge
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Hime stay away, im legal

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You dont want me

umbral belfry
gritty ridge
glad meteor
keen vapor
leaden canyon
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@tropic summit I beat it but didn't record

keen vapor
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YOU TOO ChimeKisama

umbral belfry
glad meteor
umbral crown
warped scaffold
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will a 2RL team burst faster than little mermaid stun

gritty ridge
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No

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Burst 1 will

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Burst 2 will with the right investments

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Burst 3 wont

keen vapor
raven plover
warped scaffold
umbral crown
gritty ridge
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Jackal is basically only a buff for helm burst

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Maybe rrh too, idr the wording

umbral crown
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And helm nukes hard even witjout jackal

warped scaffold
gritty ridge
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You may be able to put scar in p1

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Shes a special case

warped scaffold
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wait what, wont she get stunned

gritty ridge
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Depends, lemme see her overload lines

warped scaffold
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my scarlet aint built

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it has 1 OL

gritty ridge
warped scaffold
gritty ridge
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Brother I dont think shes nuking

warped scaffold
gritty ridge
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7 4 7, full ol should be your baseline for using her

warped scaffold
gritty ridge
warped scaffold
gritty ridge
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It may help, like I said she really really wants attack lines

warped scaffold
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oh shit okay

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ig ill js make her 10,4,10 while i wait for the pilgrim equipment

gritty ridge
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10 7 10 is what you should aim for

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Full 10s eventually but I assume youre lowish sync

warped scaffold
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i gave all my resources to pve KEKW

gritty ridge
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Ah I was gonna say you could speedrun to 200 and get a CA win in bot bracket

warped scaffold
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its js this one annoying guy w little mermaid that cripples my slower teams

gritty ridge
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Nah youre thinking of Special arena

warped scaffold
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oh yeah SA

gritty ridge
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CA is unlocked at sync 200

warped scaffold
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oh wait the new feature

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but id get stomped by all the whales

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i dont even have many pvp oriented nikkes like biscuit noise CrownHUH

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idt ca wld hv bot brackets

gritty ridge
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CA has so many botsKEKW

warped scaffold
gritty ridge
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Fetus bracket is like 90% bots

warped scaffold
barren zephyr
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Could someone join the vc and help me out with sp arena please :)

gritty ridge
warped scaffold
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ig nikke is losing players Doro

gritty ridge
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Nah pvp is based on account date

warped scaffold
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anyways whats the benefit of CA anyways

gritty ridge
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If you get to lvl 200 much faster than normal people then your CA will be full of bots

warped scaffold
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ohhhh so each initial CA bracket is based on dates

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but like the finals arent

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i prob need another 2 weeks to get to 200, im js short on battle data rn KEKW

hoary maple
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The benefit of CA is the frames

gritty ridge
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Nah, there's iirc 5 CA brackets? @quick lake youre smart, whats the number

warped scaffold
keen vapor
gritty ridge
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Echo, how many CA brackets are ther

quick lake
umbral crown
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How to know which one i am

umbral crown
quick lake
umbral crown
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But i got shuffled into K, munchs bracket

quick lake
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Hmm idk SurprisedAnneFace

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Maybe SEA server losing ppl pain

umbral crown
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Now i can also have K telling me if i won or not before i log the game

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Have to record the replays to see how hard the whale lost to me

fathom rock
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@umbral belfry cinéma pepehmmm

umbral belfry
gritty ridge
gritty ridge
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Each passing day I grow ever stronger

umbral belfry
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you best hope you hard counter me 3x

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until then i will bully you bullyShake

gritty ridge
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Nuh uh, my scar is gonna materialize the indomitable human spirit and kill through bay

umbral belfry
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but I don't even use bay anymore CrownHUH

gritty ridge
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Im not gonna be in your bracket for a whileKEKW

umbral belfry
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scar cheating poggies

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nah dw bigboi

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imma come to your bracket one more time

gritty ridge
umbral belfry
gritty ridge
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My vesti will be finished next coop shop reset

umbral belfry
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finally no more baby vesti

gritty ridge
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Shes 4 7 6 rn with 3 manu pieces lvl 5

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Btw, can I put vesti on a team with 4 passive atk buffers and have her wipe a team pre burst?

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Assuming no biscuit

umbral belfry
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define passive atk buffers

gritty ridge
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Mmast, t.helm

umbral belfry
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idk about mmast

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treasure helm should but also dependent on your atk rolls on vesti

gritty ridge
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Or like, what abt this team

umbral belfry
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if you're running trio I wouldn't do helm

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I'd do lap or xmaid

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but without emi to help trio I wouldn't even run it at all

gritty ridge
gritty ridge
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Idk who else to put

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Crown maybe idk

crystal flicker
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Idk why you deliberately pushing MG to PvPs

gritty ridge
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Nah i just wanna see how much dmg vesti can crank out preburst

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Also if its attack team I can just not go for the jackal team

fathom rock
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Fun fact

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Yulha doesn't proc at astart
She is dead weight

vapid lake
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Neither does mmast

gritty ridge
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Oh really? I was wondering why yulha wasnt used in pvp

fathom rock
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A color

vapid lake
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Read mmast skills again she does nothing until u get a full gauge

gritty ridge
vapid lake
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Ppl use default mast in pvp

gritty ridge
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Im not using masthmmz

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I refuse

fast nest
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i need default mast for my absolute squad😭

wild hemlock
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CS math is so silly man maaaaaaaan gain cs to actually lose cs doroconcerned

gritty ridge
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Something something 2 same value lines add together and then round up something something

wild hemlock
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Yeah I know the math but it's still really silly to actually see and then just accept that's just how it is

gritty ridge
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Yeah its dumb

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At least you didnt lose actual speed

wild hemlock
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yeah my noise and noah have the same cs now though which is awkward

gritty ridge
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Adjutant cube fixes all problems

wild hemlock
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except noah getting blasted but yeah pretty much only option or i have to roll another blue line which is not fun

mystic rain
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reroll one cs line out of noise lol

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or yea jus use adjutant on noah to get 1 more frame

tropic summit
gritty ridge
crystal flicker
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Cosplay is 3D

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And having Cosplayer gf will drain your wallet

humble frost
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any SP arena pvp cookers

terse dragon
mystic rain
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any fight vs biscuit team?

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wait is that 21cs vesti

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wtf

crystal flicker
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You mean Emi battles

terse dragon
wild hemlock
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Is that just the Emilia bug

north brook
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Its just that vesti hitting 3 makes it more noticeable, plus vesti does good dmg too so it amps more

shell hazel
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@tropic summit so I took back 1 as you saw yesterday, and bro not bothered to take it back so far, it's weird as they'll never maintain it so long as I can beat em

tropic summit
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put in bio the following but translated in chinese: "run vestiTU indom 2RL"

crystal flicker
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Run ScarJacl 1.5RL

tropic summit
# humble frost

jackal vestiTU emilai blanc noir (assumes vestiTU is linked, run team in shooting range to conferm jumping jackal buff on her)
trina centi cindy helmt siren
noah biscuit rapunzel s.anis drakeT

quantum as provided in screenshot to ensure RL thresholds

build rumani, noise, laplaceT asap, these units will upgrade your teams
can consider rosanna and ada

increase CP on centi,. trina, noah, rapu

shell hazel
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I don't know if they even have the pieces for it, I've set the same def as them (they cooked my def for me) and I don't see the right units to move it to 2RL without compromising the other teams

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we're currently on track for 4th season of SPA running where I'll get 1st

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the only gems I spent was that 100 the other day

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and that was for science

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and enterrrtainnmentuuuu

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they're trying to fight on an uneven platform with sync + core gapping so I'm not thinking they need me to help them

tropic summit
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at 0 cost as you don't need to even try to hold top 4

shell hazel
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right, have learnt some stuff so some value there. Also they've changed def around a fair bit and so far not had something I can't beat

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the odd challenging comp though to be sure, I'd be having more fun if we had similar sync/power and it was a case of throwing out unique teams to try to trip the other up

tropic summit
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@swift mango time's running short hmmz

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either they confirm it's working as intended or suddenly reverse stonks pepehmmm 🍿

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inb4 they make it even stronger instead PrettySmile

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instructions not clear, enemy team is now wiped upon entering battle

glad meteor
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What bug you report? Vesti?

tropic summit
glad meteor
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Yeah

tropic summit
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it feels rather silly because it directly buffs attackers

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attack in general is already easy as is

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imagine if you give a weapon that deletes anything within 1RL

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i don't mind although if they state it's working as intended

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which would be hilarious though CrownHUH

shell hazel
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did you manage to send them a video about it?

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haha made em lose to their own def 😄

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that's 2 tries so I'll use my 2nd they can gem if they want to get it back

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<@&946725432554836008>

terse dragon
humble frost
river dune
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@swift mango @shell hazel I finally did it broke my curse of my 397k, but the others have scored more than they already did KEKW

dire root
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They lived through a RH B1 boosted 10/7/10 SR15 invested Scarlet. You got to be kidding me.

dire root
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just die

dire root
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does noah make the other team immune to aoe even off burst?

shell hazel
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where trina?

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jackal?

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you don't really need noah/biscuit if you're goal is to nuke them before they nuke you

dire root
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Jackal is on team one abusing the fact that the enemies team one had 2 MGs

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I just need to stop using scarlet in PVP ever

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Her damage is just terrible

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even at small defict advantage boosted by RH she still can't do any damage

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Does she just need 4 attack and 4 ele black lines with level 5 gear to do something to the enemy team when she bursts?

shell hazel
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cindy buffed nuke instead of scarlet may work better here

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or another main dps like rapi even

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or vesti

dire root
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No Cindy, could just build Rei 2, her nuke has higher damage if I recall

shell hazel
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scarlet wants 4 x atk lines at least

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no vesti?

dire root
shell hazel
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you'll get stuck on trying to kill biscuit locked noah even with the stun and biscuit b2

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then cindy will nuke you, you could slow down speed to catch cindy nuke in time

dire root
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I blocked all of it, just lost the gun fight after

shell hazel
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rei 2 is no better at nuking than scarlet really, she's budget scarlet

dire root
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Because of the whole reviving noah thing

dire root
shell hazel
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it's just similar

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or main burst with RH think you hit P5 so eat them in reverse

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alice then cindy

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biscuit/noah is killed last

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also nukes their B3's so no burst at all if you're quick enough

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biscuit will make cindy immune though, you want to waste at least one biscuit stack on noah

dire root
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Forces me to use Noah since there is basically no stopping her burst

shell hazel
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yes could just skip that and beat the other two teams

elfin mesa
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think im hard stuck for a while look at how everyone's ahead of me by such a large margin

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recently got drunk scarlet so i slotted her in immediately

silent sonnet
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sooo how's ada in PVP?

silent sonnet
raven plover
silent sonnet
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oh no i guess t. helm saves the day as usual

raven plover
covert lintel
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@karmic smelt I thought you would finally winNoahCry

karmic smelt
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What’s the results like

hollow lagoon
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Rip

covert lintel
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5-0 againKEKW
Completely crushed

umbral belfry
umbral belfry
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@short moon I pray you voted correctly

karmic smelt
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Hacks

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Man I swear to god it’s rigged

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I’ve been getting 5-0 or 4-1 all across this season

hollow lagoon
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Wow my stall lost, I guess it’s what I get for only raising moran and Nero to 9

karmic smelt
shell hazel
hollow lagoon
shell hazel
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lapT or xmaiden seems to do better

lone sequoia
shell hazel
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unlucky, power of friendship failed us and zael lost also 🙁

hollow lagoon
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More like my tempura cube is bad

shell hazel
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full chinnit semi finals

hollow lagoon
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And my skills are only 9

lone sequoia
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SR15?

hollow lagoon
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Mana does get mauled by Nero I guess

shell hazel
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she didn't really do much for you here yeah

hollow lagoon
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She ressed Moran

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Otherwise would have died earlier

shell hazel
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otherwise work to be done I guess, same as mine, need more investment in places

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depends if worth vs more pve build

hollow lagoon
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Mana need tempura cube instead of the health cube she has atm

shell hazel
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3 more months for me of mainly pvp stuff before I'll switch priority focus

hollow lagoon
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My PvP is done as can be

lone sequoia
hollow lagoon
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My tempering only have like 3 slots

lone sequoia
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yep

hollow lagoon
lone sequoia
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need more lvls on that cube

shell hazel
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but I'll build the new meta pilgrim in the middle here

lone sequoia
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nero SR15+tempering lv7 and skills at 10

hollow lagoon
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Any more investment for me in PvP is no go

umbral belfry
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@shell hazel mission failed salute

umbral belfry
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scar soda beat stall bc helm stunned but my stall lost to sgs poggies

lone sequoia
hollow lagoon
placid bloom
lone sequoia
placid bloom
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phoric champion run

shell hazel
umbral belfry
umbral belfry
shell hazel
umbral belfry
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phorics a good guy tho so I'm happy for him @placid bloom Doro

shell hazel
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I have 2.26M CP zant I'm coming for you

placid bloom
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it's not even pie pepehmmm

hollow lagoon
hollow lagoon
shell hazel
umbral belfry
shell hazel
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where is the strawberry pie?

umbral belfry
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if it was up to me it'd be called piecrust

lone sequoia
placid bloom
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but the meringue is not a pie hmmz

umbral belfry
placid bloom
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that's like saying chocolate chips are a pie

umbral belfry
placid bloom
lone sequoia
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i didn't know hime was NA

hollow lagoon
shell hazel
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Hime is the NA ✂️ champ

umbral belfry
shell hazel
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what is your lowest cp team zant?

cunning crown
hollow lagoon
lone sequoia
cunning crown
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Same story tho, 3-2 to tenshi's killer, unlucky

shell hazel
shell hazel
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moran guy is strong

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we rebuild for next CA pepehmmm

cunning crown
hollow lagoon
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My bay’s good nuff

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Anne’s gonna be a

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Post anni investment

shell hazel
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post anne investment pepehmmm

hollow lagoon
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That would mean it never happen

placid bloom
shell hazel
placid bloom
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tbh if teams become fast enough she actually becomes good again

hollow lagoon
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I already did the 20 advice session for Anne

placid bloom
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not a lot of buffers have that fat of an Atk buff

shell hazel
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me I just quick advise as much as possible KEKW

hollow lagoon
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Idk if she better than bay tbh

shell hazel
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diff use case I guess

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more to build

hollow lagoon
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Kinda don’t wanna build

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Too much resources sunk into PvP already

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I have decent 5 teams and and 100+ sync

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Ther than CA there’s nothing for me to use all that PvP power

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Even if some one matching my sync does comes along I’ll still pulverize them

lone sequoia
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xanne is better for SG team, bay just give a few more seconds but that is not something you want in SG team, you want to kill fast so, xanne- poliT-another SG or just fill with blanc

hollow lagoon
lone sequoia
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for "mirror" there are more things that units, you have to think about stk priority, elements, positions and ATK/DEF diff

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the first step is rosanna diff, can your rosanna oneshot without s2 proc?

hollow lagoon
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I donno prob didn’t but it’s @shell hazel’s sg team

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Which means more invested

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How invested are your sg units?

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My drake is 7/7/7 on mid af ol rolls and level 3 gear except boots

lone sequoia
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OL need 3 atk/ele +1ammo and crit rate

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something near for atk/ele work

short moon
shell hazel
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my sg team kind of weak as well tbh I'll likely upgrade a bit after anni

hollow lagoon
lone sequoia
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elements matter for different match ups like bsoda+sugar to kill electric p1, easier for scarlet or noise p1 teams, water Sgs against stall(nero) or drake+bsoda+noir for more balanced team

hollow lagoon
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My main carries ain’t even 3atk/ele

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Only Cinderella has 3 atk 3 ele on my account

shell hazel
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in CA it's mostly rng on who you face so want a reasonable mix of elements

lone sequoia
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then if you can't reroll try to focus in elemental dmg and fill with drake-bsoda-noir

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atk is betterr for neutral, but if you hit a unit with weakness you get a "extra SG"

hollow lagoon
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My account ain’t even a year old, like I said give me 10000more rocks I’ll roll shit

lone sequoia
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ask SU* for rocks and good rng

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my helm is +350rocks and looks average

umbral belfry
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Hopefully you'll get your frame Doro

hollow lagoon
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20 ish rock helm, does the job

shell hazel
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that's really good for 20 rocks for sure

hollow lagoon
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Mean while 30 rocks into rapunzel still won’t give me that last CS I need to take off adjutant cube

lone sequoia
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mine is just a bit more ele and atk

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4atk/ele- 3cs-1crit rate i don't know if i want to roll the crit rate because all the rocks wasted on helm were for 1st line reroll

hollow lagoon
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My standards is 2 ele, anymore is cool, atk is great, crit is ok

lone sequoia
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my problems are dupes and sync lvl

hollow lagoon
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Give me another year and I’ll change my standards kek

lone sequoia
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i play with 30+% deficit on sp

hollow lagoon
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I play with 40-50% deficit on sp

shell hazel
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my helm but I think I went a lot more than 20 rocks lol. I need to add CS to the helm itself, and I won't get 21% CS ever without adjutant or rolling one of the CS's to be better

lone sequoia
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but i'm in the lower end

shell hazel
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no I just haven't had the rocks to roll it off

lone sequoia
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1ammo on helm is fine

shell hazel
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that will lock atk and roll for CS

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she's OK on 1 ammo roll also yeah

hollow lagoon
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My units have crit lines there’s no way I can accept ammo line KEKW

lone sequoia
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i plan to build my nero and moran with DEF/Crit so no ammo helm help for normal attack dmg

hollow lagoon
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I don’t even know what my Nero has

umbral belfry
lone sequoia
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for pvp* you aim main stat+DEF+crit rate/ele dmg mix

hollow lagoon
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Oh charge damage on Nero, fancy

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Bro the chance of my invest in Nero’s lines is like prob mid 2026

lone sequoia
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main dps full dmg
support/defender RLs 4cs/DEF-(2-3) ammo and ele dmg (cp boost)
support/defender- 4DEF/(2-4) crit rate - atk for stats manipulation (skills priority) and ammo or ele dmg

hollow lagoon
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I do have 2 def but thous are line 1 with 2 empty’s

lone sequoia
hollow lagoon
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I think I’ll hit level cap before I get to your PvP unit standards KEKW

lone sequoia
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i'm waiting for SU to make a OL event with higher %for good lines or tier reroll

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played for 2 years with free OL and only reroll lines after ssrrapi- a bit for helm before that

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now i only try to get the effects on the pieces and wait

hollow lagoon
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20 days more and I can be 501 and blast through behemoth

shell hazel
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you almost at end of the game again pepehmmm

lone sequoia
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time to start building anchor for snake

hollow lagoon
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Well it would have 42 chapters so I didn’t close my distance

hollow lagoon
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Roll lines on a support?

shell hazel
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just raw cp and high skills I imagine

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not like you need her for damage

lone sequoia
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skills and cp

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SR5+ help

shell hazel
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cp pad lines be fine

hollow lagoon
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8/9/8 seems fine

lone sequoia
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or build bready

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you will need less cp and that help for future content

hollow lagoon
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Have you even had characters that just love to come to you

lone sequoia
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water units are niche but you will have her

gritty ridge
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Yess

hollow lagoon
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I sware mast and anchor maids are weighted differently

lone sequoia
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i only pull during limited, pilgrim or meta and most of the time is 200 pulls for 1 copy

lone sequoia
hollow lagoon
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My maids are max core for whatever reason, and I only pulled mlb during banner

gritty ridge
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Oh ur on snake? That's my best bossDoro watchu need help with

lone sequoia
hollow lagoon
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My strongest water unit is still QeQ

shell hazel
gritty ridge
hollow lagoon
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My Bready is not invested yet

lone sequoia
gritty ridge
hollow lagoon
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I’ll find out when I get there

gritty ridge
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Manchor should be 7 8 10 minimum for snake, mast 10 10 10.

short moon
shell hazel
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as for me I need 421 for what I think is CC part 3

gritty ridge
shell hazel
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and I'm 403 so... not going to happen lmao

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I can maybe crate 2 levels poggies

hollow lagoon
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I have 8+ level of crates

gritty ridge
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Snake is the boss I hold lowest clear for in normal, and I plan to do the same in hardmode

lone sequoia
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i hate sponge

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those bosses that are just dps check

shell hazel
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yeah

hollow lagoon
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Behemoth is dps check kek

gritty ridge
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Behemoth is big dps check

shell hazel
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behemoth is more of a dps threat as well though

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CC is check but survivable

hollow lagoon
gritty ridge
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Behemoth is also a timing check

gritty ridge
lone sequoia
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whale is the best boss in the game... the problem is the stats penalty, in tower is a skill check and for campaign you need the dmg or cp

shell hazel
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am just trying to see how many crates/levels I can get before anni now, but I boosted my main outpost a bit so I think it was worth crating to 401 the other day

hollow lagoon
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By the 40+try on behemoth you basically know exactly what to do, timing check is kind of null at that point

lone sequoia
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probably around 500 more

gritty ridge
shell hazel
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depends when new chapters come

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think I can get more than 500 due to hard mode

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that is about 250 on day 1 of hard mode on it's own

lone sequoia
hollow lagoon
shell hazel
shell hazel
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they could delay the next ones a bit, not impossible

lone sequoia
primal charm
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what is strongest spa defense comp nowaday chat,

hollow lagoon
shell hazel
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when anni livestream anyway?

gritty ridge
lone sequoia
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3weeks more(?

shell hazel
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livestream should be sooner

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normally talks about the anni ahead of time

hollow lagoon
shell hazel
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let us know what is coming for anni etc

gritty ridge
gritty ridge
hollow lagoon
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I have one instance where I need to manual reload Cinderella, I can fight to the very end but I still have 1450-1500 bars of hp left, prob gonna blast through it when I hit 501 tho, currently 488

lone sequoia
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no more treasure until next year

gritty ridge
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No miranda is getting 7 seconds of cdr added to her kit trust

hollow lagoon
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Gib leona a heal and some cdr and SG team b2 can finally be locked in KEKW

lone sequoia
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yep, leona treasure was better than tove treasure

hollow lagoon
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Quat?

lone sequoia
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treasure supposed to make better old units or the ones that people didn't use

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tove is and was meta before her treasure

hollow lagoon
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Come to think of it Leona don’t need both heal or cdr… could literally work with just either

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Since Bsoda exist for extension

shell hazel
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if the leak I heard about is true, one potential treasure that was mentioned was for a unit that wasn't even that old. I'm sus of this though susge

hollow lagoon
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Who

shell hazel
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and if the case they should just fix the kit

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I can't say here mods will kill me, I can dm you what I saw

placid bloom
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nah gotta make you spend maint kits for no reason clueless

lone sequoia
hollow lagoon
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Sora Treasure? KEKW

shell hazel
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i'd definitely back a feedback item if it comes true but I'm still susge of it tbh

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it's not Sora but it's someone fairly recent

hollow lagoon
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Flora?

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That poor girl is dead in the water even now

placid bloom
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don't bother guessing, there will be no yes or no even if you guess right

shell hazel
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I told you in DM if you want to post here you can 😛

placid bloom
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you just need to know clueless

lone sequoia
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just wait for anniversary

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the next 2 pilgrims will be broken... again

placid bloom
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tbh her numbers were sus from the start TimiProud

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but fixing with treasure is lazy

hollow lagoon
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Hopefully, a water pilgrim and a wind pilgrim

placid bloom
wild hemlock
shell hazel
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I'll probably focus on the new main pilgrim should be broken even if only for pve that's fine

placid bloom
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well anni pilgrim mandatory to work on pepehmmm

lone sequoia
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my wind units are dead, i would like a new wind pilgrim

shell hazel
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2nd one like grave could be good (or a decent b1 be nice)

hollow lagoon
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idk about broken, Cinderella is good but using her for mobbing is cancer, grave got Ade creeped, the only 2 universally good units are Siren and Rapi

lone sequoia
shell hazel
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I suspect they won't make her super super broken tbh

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but she should be very good

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if she's on level with rapi or thereabouts I'm happy

lone sequoia
hollow lagoon
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Can’t be that bad

lone sequoia
hollow lagoon
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Took like 20 ish rocks

hollow lagoon
lone sequoia
shell hazel
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re-enter b3 😮

lone sequoia
hollow lagoon
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I hope Cindy gets a treasure to shoot straight or hitscan beams

terse dragon
lone sequoia
terse dragon
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If your Vesti has 8 crit

placid bloom
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20s B3 with cdr clueless

shell hazel
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slippery road to treasure pilgrims I think which is why we got arcana and such

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treasure nikke form

placid bloom
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then you can truly run utility B3 buffer

shell hazel
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I'd actually like a 60s B3 but it's super strong lol 😄

hollow lagoon
shell hazel
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3 bursts in a boss run, can't use until 40s has passed

hollow lagoon
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Cindy has very clear flaws

shell hazel
hollow lagoon
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But I still love my Cindy

placid bloom
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180s B3 CrownHUH

hollow lagoon
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I think I left my Cindy on wishlist for too long

lone sequoia
wild hemlock
shell hazel
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starts on CD or so

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or can't use until another b3 has gone, it won't be strong then

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or it's stronger with two previous b3's and works by being the 3rd one essentially the best

wild hemlock
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Then again Vesti might be the best unit to ever exist in pvp atm by nuking entire enemy teams in 1rl so maybe crazy good 60sec b3 is fine

hollow lagoon
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@shell hazel here’s the story, I left Cindy on wishlist till core 6, didn’t get a copy of her for 2+months and I’m like, what I’m I doing? If I get core 7 I’ll feel bad for every Cindy I every pull after, then I took her off wish list, then proceed to get her on random banner pulling Lel

shell hazel
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my cindy is core 1 not sure I'll ever get core max :9

lone sequoia
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there was this pokemon called dondozo

shell hazel
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i barely get any pilgrims usually

lone sequoia
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imagine a b3 of something like that

shell hazel
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they can def play with the b3 mechanics a bit and a pilgrim is a good way to do it

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I don't want hyper manual play heavy but something to do diff could be good

hollow lagoon
shell hazel
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yeah I don't have this kind of luck

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instead I'd spend 200 pulls and get 0 pilgrims

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I'm going to pull for ada/jill after the reset

lone sequoia
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200 pulls =1copy

shell hazel
lone sequoia
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for mihara banner i got 3 times elegg and i had to ticket mihara

hollow lagoon
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I had bad luck for K/Arcana

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And SSakura

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And below average for SRosana

shell hazel
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yeah I had to ticket mihara after more than 200 pulls no miharas

lone sequoia
shell hazel
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hopefully ada/jill don't take too much to come home

lone sequoia
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when i reach* 230 i just ticket the unit

shell hazel
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I get 1 copy only and then run away

lone sequoia
#

you will get both with those collab tickets

shell hazel
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I'd love it but I really don't count on it lmao

glad glade
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@umbral belfry Rip you did your best bro SyuenPats

hollow lagoon
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Why you don’t use them 20 collab tickets

shell hazel
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I'm waiting until I can just pull both at once

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or without having to wait at least

hollow lagoon
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Well Jill prob come today

shell hazel
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she does yes

lone sequoia
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no uses for ada in pve or pvp at the moment

cunning crown
shell hazel
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i'll just get 1 copy not going for MLB or anything

lone sequoia
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and indom is almost the same for other main dps

shell hazel
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saving mostly for anni and mileage for the inevitable 1% banners

hollow lagoon
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No use for Ada in bed eitherKEKW

lone sequoia
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collab crow

shell hazel
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xmas belorta

lone sequoia
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xmas rh

hollow lagoon
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I Wouldent mind Xmas Brlorta

shell hazel
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we needs it

lone sequoia
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i would like a treasure for scarlet or a new alt

hollow lagoon
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She’s not that annoying, I only got her from pilgrim mold like twice

shell hazel
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if they do a treasure for a pilgrim it would be an older one like harran or isabel imo

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and they'd probably also need to make it a drake type event so everyone can get it

shell hazel
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if not they'll be acused of being too whaley

hollow lagoon
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Feel like their way of treasuring pilgrims is just units that nich that kit

shell hazel
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or at least spare body would need to be in perm shop for silver mileage like noah is

lone sequoia
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right it was crust

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i forget that

hollow lagoon
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Tho Jill could function with Trina lelllelelelelellelele

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Electric AR

shell hazel
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ah she's elec AR, but will not be pvp focus imo

lone sequoia
#

i remember now that i think about the DoT

hollow lagoon
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Trueing/dot mix, Trina brick Jill kit by giving her more ammo tho

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Or does she

lone sequoia
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you don't want reload with jill because you skip reload animation

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well you can test when her banner is up

hollow lagoon
#

Will find out anyway, I recall she locks her ammo count to 1

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During burst anyway

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Debating if I should put ol on Isabel, but I’m low on pilgrim attacker gear

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maybe i could copium 3% solo raid without invest in anything this round

lone sequoia
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only if you have arcana built

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we don't have many electric b3 units

hollow lagoon
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arcana only need skill level

lone sequoia
#

and arcana/trina/scarlet/isabel is a good option for T4~T5

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or just arcana+cindy for main electric team

hollow lagoon
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i'm set sanis with scarlet cuz my scarlet need the reload speed

umbral belfry
glad glade
umbral belfry
glad glade
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He might actually beat Piggy too. I’m a bit unsure about T1 and T5 thou

umbral belfry
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that's my buddy

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I believe in him

glad glade
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T1 is a Poison comp mirror match, with my boy BB having less CP than piggy but that may end up working in his favor (lower CS). T5 has his Scar comp going up against Piggy’s 2RL Noise-Noah-Vesti team. The duo gets stunned for sure because they hit Soda, but idk if Scar survives to burst thanks to Besti

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Hang on, I should make a deck comparison

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Its for my cheer streak, so it matters to me lol

umbral belfry
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can't check rn at work

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doggo on lap BiscuitHappy

shell hazel
glad glade
fathom rock
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I think t1 and T2 complete rng, t3 is just noise or noah taunter check, and t4 and T5 are attacker need more thoughts on this

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@umbral belfry @tropic summit

gritty ridge
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Bottom wins

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I truly hope thats you

umbral belfry
umbral belfry
gritty ridge
warm monolith
fathom rock
gritty ridge
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Idk man

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Im just saying what I see

fathom rock
#

Bottom does win atleast 2/3
@warm monolith can you send noah noise team replay?

glad glade
fathom rock
#

You have like 20h to vote, take your time

gritty ridge
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I put bottom at 4/5 if im being honest

gritty ridge
#

Sg have trouble eating through cindy

warm monolith
#

The second one?

fathom rock
shell hazel
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bottom should win I agree

fathom rock
fathom rock
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And that can actually lose out here

shell hazel
#

top is def right?

fathom rock
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Ye

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Also if noise taunts sg, rosa might oneshot noah aswell but I don't think this affect much

umbral belfry
fathom rock
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Main factor I see is noise surviving rosa

umbral belfry
#

T1 can go any way / rng
t2 bot
t3 bot
t4 likely top / rng
t5 leaning bot

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@fathom rock wifi is bad sadge

fathom rock
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Why would T4 be rng, vesti kill scar before burst?

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Vesti emi bug?

shell hazel
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t1 - def could win but it relies on killing scarlet past jackal link removal.
t2 - att should win stall vs cindy
t3 - att wins sg's can't chomp through biscuit locked cindy
t4 - def should win I don't know if unlinked soda at p2 will live
t5 - att should win blanc with vesti which counters moran dr

umbral belfry
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there's a high chance emi + vesti kills scar preburst yes

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but if soda stuns blanc for example I can see scar winning assuming she's even alive

shell hazel
#

soda unlinked at p2 also eating vesti nuke pre-2RL

umbral belfry
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this also assumes soda doesn't die from emi lmao

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that's why I said likely top t4

shell hazel
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yeah I'd give def match 4

umbral belfry
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but scar is def t4 no?

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oh wait yeah it's top. distracted by doggos

glad glade
#

Anyways, could anyone please help me with my cheers? Top is defending and bottom is attacking. Crossed out teams are the losers:

R1: toss up but I think it might be BB. Its an indom battle so lower CS (as seen through him having lower CP than Piggy) may snag him the victory

R2: Piggy. Pretty self explanatory

R3: Piggy. Also pretty self explanatory

R4: Leaning towards BB. His Besti may just straight up kill the SGs before they kill Noise

R5: Idk but leaning towards BB? Noise and Noah gets stunned by Soda, but would Scar survive Besti’s assault to burst? His scar is SR15 and 133k CP

fathom rock
#

And noise wouldn't kms via taunt?

warm monolith
shell hazel
fathom rock
#

I'm almost home to load vid

shell hazel
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depends if she has taunt prio over noah

fathom rock
shell hazel
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yeah noise gets taunt prio

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what a dumb move lol, she could well taunt some SG's and die

fathom rock
#

Well dead noise and a potentially dead noah, can cindy biscu bay solo their entire team burstless

shell hazel
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she'll taunt drakeT and Noir at the least

fathom rock
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She taunts enough sg that an invested Rosa kills her

shell hazel
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yeah rosa goes for highest atk so yeah, very good chance they can't burst

warm monolith
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Cool and all but i dont understand any functions of it,whos winning?

shell hazel
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so def could win overall pepehmmm

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need more opinions

warm monolith
#

Alright,thanks guys,if i win this too ill get my first ca frame 🙂

shell hazel
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see what rail thinks when he's online

fathom rock
#

Overall, this is very rng anchorded

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We legit need railtracer to hop on

warm monolith
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Ill try to qualify for the ca too,does ca give out gem if u win?

shell hazel
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yeah in the end could be some rng though I think some matches are more obvious

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it does not

fathom rock
shell hazel
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i'm not even using mine 😄

warm monolith
umbral crown
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@tropic summit i delivered your moni

shell hazel
umbral crown
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I just did the thing

shell hazel
#

they never stood a chance

swift mango
umbral crown
umbral crown
fathom rock
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T1 : go try analyze their cs from yesterday match frame by frame clueless
Cp not an indicator of cs

T2 : def win I think

T3 : invest check™

T4 : sg might kill centi , if not then besti team win

T5 : unless soda specifically stuns jackal and noise or just noah then scar team wins, otherwise vesti is besti and cs diff can make it so that noah can burst before scar even if stunned me dumdum CrustDerp

umbral crown
fathom rock
umbral crown
#

So far evwrything going as expected

glad glade
umbral crown
#

Trusting the others is the key

umbral crown
glad glade
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It is what it is. I’m betting more on Piggy having greater CS thou, as I’ve personally fought BB before in SPA. The guy has less invested units in PvP than Piggy

shell hazel
#

🐷 champ run?

fathom rock
#

Again? sadge

ripe aurora
#

Can anyone help me with SP defense teams?

glad glade
shell hazel
#

dnd mode activatu

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I may check later if you remind me

glad glade
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Grim. How unlucky.

glad glade
umbral crown
glad glade
tropic summit
#

@umbral crown you losin' this? noway PrettySmile

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mf running the bug abuse team

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other 4 are template CA teams, cindy noah, nero moran, sg team, scar-soda

umbral crown
shell hazel
#

it's a pretty strong team even without knowing of the sync shots

tropic summit
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yes it is but the purpose is clear as day

shell hazel
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tbh if I had emi I'd have likely wound up running something like that

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and I'd not have known about the sync thing if I did, not saying they're not abusing that

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but it's a fairly cookie cutter speedy vesti indom (though costly lol)

tropic summit
#

ironically the blanc in p2, if unlinked, is a bad decision

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as mirror vesti would shred her to pieces via ele weak

shell hazel
#

is emi an attacker?

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guessing she is

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I mean that team has jackal + 3 attackers, no hope for blanc to link

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max core blanc vs 0lb vesti and emi though

tropic summit
glacial hound
#

I can tell you most of my units are in the 11-14 cs range

warm monolith
#

Hey @tropic summit ShiftyHi

glacial hound
#

Just at a glance looks like piggy win

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Doesn't look like cs matters for any matchup here

warm monolith
tropic summit
tropic summit
warm monolith
shell hazel
#

note: that noise seems to have taunt prio over noah for the noah team

warm monolith
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Its my last bet for ca frame and i got hit up w thisMilkHuh

tropic summit
shell hazel
#

you think they still win even if noise taunts and dies and they can't b1 anymore?

tropic summit
#

that's a good observation

shell hazel
#

we have a video showing noise taunting siren in a diff match

tropic summit
#

if you already know noise taunt prio then it changes that match ye

shell hazel
#

so she def has taunt prio

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still sg's gotta chew through biscuit immune defenders a bit

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without any sustain

tropic summit
#

this seems more likely ye

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well enemy team can't burst without noise

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they'll get out traded by that team

small hatch
#

2rl vs 4+rl Cindy mirror. Thoughts?

warm monolith
#

So who to bet?

shell hazel
#

cindy could get a lucky crit and kill rumani but that is SR-15 looking fairly built rumani

small hatch
#

Do you know which 2 tanks will get the biscuit buff?

shell hazel
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everyone will shoot at blanc on bottom team

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because cindy decoy is target skip

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so 5 RL units will splash cindy + blanc + mihara

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so likely burst cindy decoy and therefore it will go to cindy and blanc probably. Cindy burst may not kill rumani though

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if rumani survives then indom someone + mihara dot + noah shield ends so bottom can wipe then

gritty ridge
#

Chat if I were to make an alt to speedrun to CA, who would I be rerolling for?

formal quiver
#

scarlet

gritty ridge
#

I assumed scarlet and vesti

formal quiver
#

pilgrim harder to get

shell hazel
#

you'll just burn out playing multiple accounts

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now you have twice the dailies to do as well

gritty ridge
#

Im kinda stuck in a no progress point rn

shell hazel
#

play something else meanwhile it's better return on time spent :p

tropic summit
#

if you really positvely must do though, i'd aim for RH

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one of the best units you'll need for pve maldin' and contributes to pvp in all phases

gritty ridge
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Now that I think abt it id have a month to get 4, maybe 5 pilgrimshmmz

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On top of specific pvp units

ripe aurora
gritty ridge
#

Rh, scar, noah, cindy, and siren

shell hazel
#

if you're going to bother re-rolling then the anni seems like the best time to actually do it

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most pulls and such to start with

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don't think you'd get that many on a new account now?

tropic summit
shell hazel
#

but I'd say just play something else and idle the nikke whilst you wait

warm monolith
shell hazel
#

there are other gachas coming out/already out if you like the gacha style games

gritty ridge
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I play 2 total gachas hippo

shell hazel
#

nikke and nikke? 😛

gritty ridge
#

Battle cats and nikke

shell hazel
#

you'll get tired of switching accounts as well tbh

tropic summit
warm monolith
gritty ridge
warm monolith
gritty ridge
shell hazel
#

best to stick to 1 nikke then for your own sanity 🙂

gritty ridge
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Im just worried its gonna be a long time til I get my win

shell hazel
#

in CA?

tropic summit
#

then just bet on the team that seems more likely

gritty ridge
shell hazel
#

I did put forth my opinion earlier Rail 🙂

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I originally thought attacker then I saw the noise whyyy

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some rng involved but after that I pref defender

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you were the other opinions 😄

ripe aurora
gritty ridge
#

Oh is this the one I also gave an opinion on? Or is it a different one

shell hazel
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wide aoe nuke but it's just a bit slower/more delayed than cindy is

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you can vesti main nuke on one team and SBS on another for example

ripe aurora
shell hazel
#

you'll get there, try and get into a 10% co-op run when it's up at least once

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you'll get the t9m selectors then

ripe aurora
#

Also dolls.
Game shafts me with rl dolls hard while giving me sg ones.

fast nest
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Same😭

shell hazel
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doll rng is a fickle mistress

shell hazel
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so bump up centi/rumani a bit

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jackal ofc but she's already pretty high on your list

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you could build trina some as well as a good flex b2 battery, works best with scarlet or moran but she works fine alone also

ripe aurora
#

Yeah Centi, Rumani and Trina are all on my progression list. Though without Dolls their cp scaling is borked

shell hazel
#

Bay can work as Noah-at-home but you're 2 dupes away from

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at least meanwhile keep her in bond thing to max out when you can

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otherwise try to prio pve stuff that pushes you, and some units have dual purpose ofc like SBS and Vesti

ripe aurora
shell hazel
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for Bay? if you really lack Noah and don't think you can get her, she's an option to add

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Noah being pilgrim means she appears tomorrow or maybe in a year? 😄

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but even if you get Noah not like Bay is useless, she can help in various ways

ripe aurora
#

I have 600 silver mileage which I was kinda saving for Noah dupes KEKW

shell hazel
#

potentially worth going for her treasure then, can still dupe Noah once if you land both

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and you'll get more silver mileage anyway

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my goal is to core max Noah with silver mileage some day, will take a while

ripe aurora
#

Now the issue is freaking rl dolls...

shell hazel
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yes pepehmmm

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also too much pvp vs pve can slow down campaign progress

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we have a new meta pilgrim inc this month

ripe aurora
#

I do have sr selector which would be terribly inefficient...

shell hazel
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personally I will build that next

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if you're doing OK in pvp no need to rush Bay necessarily

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push cp on any units you use in both a bit and consider saving for the new pilgrim some

ripe aurora
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I'm in a position where I'm in top2-5 but people start to push. Not enough to complete shut me out but signs are there that if I don't do something in a few weeks I'll be staring at top 10 at the most

fast nest
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Yeah even though you put lots of investment of pvp, if you are far behind of cp, pvp investment is useless.

shell hazel
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sync is the best defence

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being ahead on both campaign modes if you can

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wiping out a bit extra (I spend a bit so do it anyway)

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buying extra hard mode tries for core dust etc

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I've old screenshots in this very channel where my rivals had similar cp to me, or were even ahead

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now they're eating dust down the list

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jan this year
top guy, now 3rd
3rd guy, like 8th
5th guy 12th
6th guy ???

fast nest
#

When is the time of shuffle of SP?

shell hazel
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it's every 3 months, we're about 8 weeks into the latest cycle

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so a month from shuffle or so

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people fall behind and don't stay slim/efficient they lose on SPA rankings in the long run

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I had a new whale added to mine last shuffle who spends more than me so was ahead on cp but I've just been beating them up anyway lmao

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hoping they throw them elsewhere this time and I get some peace back, but instead I expect they'll inject more whales

fast nest
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Here is low lvl CA. There are 2 champion frame users but they are stucked into 32 mirror container. If shuffle is done and they have bad luck, they may not have chance to promote CA.

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Right top guy who lost already pushed ziz within 2months. Kekw

glad glade
#

Whats up bro. Its good to finally meet you

glad glade
swift mango
#

Someone sneakily tried to hit me yesterday. CrustDerp

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Okay time to test my team on the whale again. BurninKek

fast nest
#

Why did that guy hit not more than 2times? use more jewel and give dopamin.

swift mango
swift mango
worldly wadi
#

Hi, I’m looking for new teams for a special arena because I can’t handle it anymore.

glacial hound
#

if it happens that poison gets onto cindy, that could cause the faster indom to still win

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but with decoy in place the chance of poison on everyone is only like 8%

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i wonder if piggy copied my positioning for this team, I adjusted in anticipation of meeting mirrors, the more popular orientation with mihara in front is by a fellow taiwanese guy who optimized for his own investments and bracket

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Susge same time zone

tropic summit
shell hazel
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absolutely shafted on ada and jill pulls

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270 pulls to get 1 copy of each

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and all the SSR I got alongside this was:
1 x eunwha (the normal one not the new decent one)
1 x bready (hi @gritty ridge )
1 x mast maid
1 x poli

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so 270 pulls for 6 SSR 💀 and once again no pilgrims

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average luck puts that at 10.8 or even rounded down, 10 lol

tropic summit
shell hazel
#

did you at least get some other stuff? my rapi and midhara luck was similar tbh

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at least those are worthy of burning mileage on

tropic summit
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dunno wasn't me

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but they were very close to quitting the game

tropic summit
shell hazel
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no I learnt my lesson on the 1% units

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don't pull too much, mileage

urban mulch
#

beating the odds in the worst way possible

shell hazel
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I wish they published the actual odds we got because I'm certain I'm way below what I should be 😄

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I had a bad feeling going into this one lol

urban mulch
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thats why they dont have pull history KEKW

shell hazel
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basically 😛

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i'm sure they know though

shell hazel
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what floor was the whale on for elysion or tetra or w/e Rail?

gritty ridge