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also trying to beat this guy Lol it gonna be back forth tho. I beat him before but now i some how cant :/
Not really ideal, needs trina and scar is still a bit glass
my jackal and noise link here actually.
I'd probably run this though
jackal links with vesti and trina 
Think ideally u want to do bisc blanc rumani indom strat
or this with noise p1 so she fires
does this work with SBS?
also rip 2 teams just to make this one... is it worth it?
based on ur box i can suggest these
jackal siren trina scarlet draket
noise rapu helmt laplaceT centi (upgrade bay into bayT can this team can run her instead)
noah biscuit rrh rh rumani
i'm only needing to win 2 attacks
for the scarlet? you sure you wanna burst with xmaiden? then again vesti as offdps hurts
xmaiden always cleans house when she b3 against that team
scarlet dead instantlyl, she just mops up afterwards
though usually it's bay instead of noah for it, who does heal a bit
noah 3s will be enough to drop them low enough for the out trade anyway
I feel that vesti will still add enough dps on top to finish them off, without the risk of being almost one tapped by ros or bursting then dead
agreed
just needs to survive rosanna with tempura
although you'll have noise B1 aswell this time
I've faced that team many times the scar crumbles as soon as her burst doesn't land
which adds resistance to it
show enemy matchup
yeah I'll send after reset tomorrow Rail ๐
scarlet trina rh anis centi, needs a single quantum
thanks for all the help (and the others who helped also pitching in ideas! @gritty ridge @placid bloom @glad meteor )
Thanks Rail. Will give this a go. I can get bayt just gotta spend some tickets on the box. Was hoping for some pull ring:P
Rng*
trina 40% atk lesgo
we managed to defeat the vesti team and it didn't feel close to me, so if that plays out like that each time then it's a comfortable win
ye that was satisfying

well guess it's more because noah and xmaiden are defenders ๐
a win that doesn't rely on mirror indom 
yeah
T1
- noah biscuit helmt laplaceT noise
T2
- skip
T3
- scarlet trina rh centi jackal
I've set my defence to their defence so when I do win they can have fun beating their own defence teams 
my laplace isnt built lol
what would the position be? because someone may die
emilia?
i dont have her :/
that's exactly the position, you want scarlet on temperance and SR15
trina gives her immunity from 0RL to 1RL, you then survive dmg from 1RL to 2RL to burst
temperance is the dmg reduction cube?
can you show me your first 4 lines of your box?
we can actually fit anyone in there, we can pad based on what you've that does not feed
yes
nvm solved, run these, you're on the left
Should I get lvp 8 tempura or lvl 7 tempura and work on quantum?
if quantum isn't lvl 7, quantum
else get temperance up
Quantum is lvl 3

I figured tempura would help me more in general so I picked it before quantum
whilst I do think true you want quantum to 7 first
So this does not work because Centi got 1 tapped 

Scar without jackal is not the way but it loses with it if you not able to kill rosa with S2
Get a stronger centi smh
Rosa actually died, but the other SGs kill my RLs first and unable to burst
I bet your centi isnt even c7 max level overload gear with 4 black defense lines

3 taps and she still won't shot her 2nd bullet
Defense is trash, I should use Tempering instead
Use both
But yours not enoug slots uwu
I'm actually using Tempering on Scarlet
Core+5 sr15 tempering Centi would still get 3 taps. 
3 is more than 1
The solution is simple, 25% CS 
I'm using Jackal to boost VesTac
I don't think it's faster than SG 3rd shot even with 25% cs.
Bruh
I see
Nah they put the attachment limit low enough that the bots get auto cleared
Its very smart
Still there are cooks that uses vesti without jackal
My Centi used to hold P5 and shot her 2nd bullet just fine in the lower bracket that is. Now if I had to fight 1st-2nd month guys, she died in 2 hits.
So you can give jackal to scar
Well, I still won't give Jackal to scar, unless I used Xmaiden in same team.
I have research gap right now and scar vs Rossana is instantly dead. Even full HP core +3 RH getting one shot by Rossana.
Most people give jackal to noise noah cindy
I love when tht team faces my nero team

With investment diff like mine, Noise buffed Cindy would wipe your Rapu
Nah
The only one who have killed y rapu is a vesti blan team
Even cindy from whales have not
Who are 521+
When you certainly didn't met Makima owner max core Cindy+Noise with 70 research level over you each. I saw them wiping little guys Rapu in my former lower bracket just fine. 
Not 680 
Well, I mean synch level wise doesn't mean much, your synch is low but you research level should be equal to synch 481-501 F2P.
It matters cuz they get more researxh level
436 i am

Only main research level, Manu research levels are locked behind events rewards
And if whale spending dupe points to buying from shop.
They get more since they have way more levels than me uwu
What's your VesTac comp 
Noah vestiT Emiia RH Centi
Still that comp have not lost
NOah?
Cindy investment sometime very huge from Solo raid whales, you could face 50% ATK Cindy if you met them.
They are mainly people from month one brackets though. They don't only have 50% ATK Cindy but they buy pilgrim research level to 250-300+ even. 
So you copied Keripo. 
I mean, my Vesti team in p3 would beat both of these team before I even burst. 
Nope , its a small variation of my old.Ein Team
S4
It's Keripo exactly last season team. 

This use helmT instead of Centi. 
When i was not using nero team back then
Keripo use Centi and his team not even 2rl. Just like yours 
Mine is 2 RL
vesit got more burst gen, besides my vesti is 17 cs
Even RH has some cs
17% is 15%, her 3rd shoot a little slower than 2rl, more like 2.2rl. But should be equal to Emi 25% 3rd shot in speed.
Just slap adjuntant and thats 19 
Then 2.1rl. in Nikke work, she needs 21% for her 3rd shot to be exactly 2rl.
But it's fine if enemies doesn't have much CS anyway
Did nikke work updated the gen of vesti and laplace?
Well, We usually use Nikke.deck for gen. I only use Nikke work to see when the hits landed.
If nikke work updated gen, team should be 2 and laplace as keripo said is clip rl
Well, do you have quantum on any of your unit in that team? If not, it would need RH to shot cover once for team to reach 2rl at Vesti 2nd shot. Assuming no Cindy p1-2-3.
90.2+7.8=98 < 100
RH is 2.8 on singer target and 5.6 when piercing cover.
So if RH pierce cover once, it's faster than 2rl. If she doesn't, it's a bit slower.
If there is Cindy or PoliT p1-2-3 then it's naturally 2rl.
And I mean, if you are faster than 2rl (hit burst at Vesti 2nd shot) Noah would dodge siren as well with your team having above 11% CS on average.
Well, my Vesti team in current CA is also NOT 2rl, it need feeds to jackal to hit there.
Minimal feed team with high CS could burst before my Blanc. But those teams only exist in rookie
Of course, emilia and centi
And put emilia 8%
Vesti cs
Centi cs


2rl on the 2nd shot according to Nikke.deck
I'm trying to make my Emi natural 15% too, 1% short.... Need to hit a 5% lines somehow. 20 rocks already but failed.
Maybe I save 100
My.emi is 12 without S1
I had a 4 % line ready to be 16 but not gonna lose ammo and ele for cs
Mine is 14% 
Just need to force the others to be blue or black

4.63
4.63
5.21

Mine has lower %, i just had forgotten to fix them for a long while
One even is 3.75 or 45



How did noah die here? The match definitely wasn't long enough for both bisc procs to finish
Probably early proc
prob got 1 tapped after first proc
it's alice 
They didnt burst lmao
then gonna need recording
This is the first time shes ever died so ill record when they hit me again
Im above 1 mil power now yippee
will this work?
Wth is that team
Prob not since Noah will end up taunting and take more damage and indom will go to her instead
nvm it works lol
sadly there's no moc battle for pvp 
If it did then everyone would have 100% win rate sadly
how many cs my vesti need chat?
if im correct i think 18% if you want to make a difference
5% is her first breakpoint
I think it's 15%
Me & this guy's beef
the turning point was #pvp-arena message yesterday lol
he switched to an even higher cp team, gapping me at 81% but I still manage to hang on
oh and RH really sucks in jackal team orz
Yap more so you can be red too
nothing to yap. Nikke deadge 
Yap about you winning this CA. 
or losing otherwise
Indom Sbs? ๐
โโ๏ธ
Indom Noah? 
it's always SBS. 100% uptime with the 2 attempts I had lol
the problem now is the Scarlet team, doesn't work without Jackal. Scarlet dies even without deficit.
Wheres the outrage for reduced collab coop shop rewards

why does noah want more cs than noise and where should they be placed assuming noah is faster
last hit taunts, so you want noah to shoot earlier
assuming a standard noise noah position
so the taunt would be on noise in that case i assume right
also my noise is 15% and my noah is 21%, is that chill or what
that's fine, about 5% diff is best
Atp it feels like even if I didn't login for a week, I'll still hold C3 and qualify for CA
I need 3 team for arena how could i compost with this? Im lacking for meta nikke
Is it ok for me to swap for my team 3 to team 2 for this fight?
, can Rumani handle Emilia?
I should also swap 1 for 3 after that
have you checked deficit as you're in it?
you need to check the deficit min requirements of each team
should post your nikke box sorted by power as opposed to from the synchro machine, this doesn't tell how invested anything is
Oh yea just a random thought CP increases exponentially with sync level right?
I just need a party composition who should i put and who should i prioritize. Like TVesti she is meta but I don't know who should i play with her.
I just need reference team that I currently have, and also Im lacking some of it like I don't have biscuit so what alternative if without her
Hello everyone. I have a question regarding pvp teams. Some time ago I got recomended this team with my collection. I recieved Rapunzel from that time and Chrismas Anne. My question is. Should I use Rapunzel or Anne in any of these teams? My collection for reference
And I also recieved Besti Tactical Upgrade
Jackal blanc biscuit T.vesti helm.
B.soda rapunzel xanne noir drake
noise trina centi cindy rumani
Can try that
Any idea who should get burst cubes?
just your highest level cubes will pretty much work because I doubt your pvp cubes are really leveled. But cindy and noise can get vigor cubes
rapunzel vigor too
if you dont have a third then tempering works
Alright. And what about Vesti? Isn't she very good in pvp?
yes shes good in pvp, she just falls under the category of putting your highest cube
Which will probably be resilience since you should be leveling that for content
i have everyone but them, which pvp teams would work in sp arena?
And if I wanted to invest in her should I replace soda in second team with her?
No shes in the teams I recommended lol
those are my invested nikkes
Thank you for your suggestions. I am really grateful as I am total noob
those are my +- somewhat invested nikkes
Yes you are right... sorry xd
all good
Is this the most deficit I will be able to fight under?
in that case you can mess with the pined teams #pvp-arena message
No defense is perfect, just up to how smart your enemy is
"No defense" as in?
You typically just play around 3 types of PvP teams, a Blanc one that lets your DPS outlast the enemy team
A Biscuit one that does moreless the same but only for defender units
And a Noah one that lets you tank screenwipes for 3s
noah biscuit helm hood cindy should kill that scar team
if you think you dont need cindy there for cp pad then you can use something else
But should win with cindy there
as long as your helm has enough cs for 2.5
I see thanks
Tyvm it worked
per team opponent cp *0.846 is your minimum recommended
after which you take stat penalties and have less chance to win, which just gets worse the larger the gap gets
I see thanks didn't know this
Who gets the sr doll 
out of that probably vesti unless you want to try and get lap treasure
there is no penalty above 85% ish, below that it's instantly 20% and then just goes up from there
vesti it is then
You know about the R 15 doll into the SR 5 doll right?
Yeah
kk
I only skipped a R doll once because I needed it for rrh to climb story
trying to save my doll mats for new anni unit(s)
a bit away still but we'll see 
<@&946725432554836008>
Jackal, Trina, Biscuit, Noah, Noise.
But Vesti first
thanks for the credits @hollow lagoon 
decided by sg team 3 with your ros being the only left alive at 5% or so
going for winner frame again
gz also @cunning crown 
power of friendship continues with my death
tenshi out also moran guy won
I did say you would walk out with 6h credit. 
no lmao you said I'd switch my vote ๐
and I said I'd win it or walk out with 6h credits, a verified win/win
Yeah, but the 6h credit was true. 
Half success. :

The unenlightened masses lack your skills of prediction 
haha 75% in favour of me beating zant as well but quite literally we had a coin toss going on
my ros wasn't lethal enough I think just missed killing bsoda/draket
I've uploaded the matches, watch match 3 in particular lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l9fRHJyFag
i'll be honest though, my xanne has literally nothing except some skills
I think if I get her some min invest she'll do even better
SR-5 and some basic OL should be fine ๐
my SG team is my least invested one really outside of Rosa
And drake
missing one atk roll but lack the rocks as Rail keeps stealing them
my DrakeT rolls are super mid though she has good cp it's padding mostly
hit rate, charge dmg, charge speed - it's all initial rolls ๐
I'm missing 3. Still one shot HelmT easily enough. 
she's my 3rd highest cp unit in the whole game atm crazy
HOLY round 3
DKW is my highest CP and I didn't even invest much rock on her. 

Noir back shot was the reason you lost. Use Treasure Poli if you had her and you would have won the mirror
I don't have her treasured, actually main reason is my lack of invest tbh
but I think zant also misses some here
Use Blanc is good as well.
Typical rail
ikr
Yeah, it's just positioning. Problem and his Rosa one shot your Drake+Soda
Move your Drake p4 if you aren't bursting with her. That would win you the mirror against back shot.
Back shots you say
I'm p1 of group one, this CA wise I would always get back shot. 

I am wanting to burst with drake, I expect bsoda to die mostly, though xanne revives
Rip
xanne at p2 with no upgrades is toast though
Noir p2
hard to follow what happens exactly in the matches though even so, cameras zoom about too much
yeah possible to swap noir/draket I suppose, I just never really thought about it too much ๐
Yeah, my bad your Soda got killed, and revived not noir. But yeah.
my sg teams need more work in general but I'm kind of in saving mode for anni stuff
I'll eventually get them all to SR-15 and some better OL states, though xanne prob stay SR-5 for a while
I can use noir/drake/bsoda in pve
Well, I guess Zent Soda burst without dying was the reason you lost.
yeah, my ros not one tap her, but I can't see if it crit or not, or how much it did as the camera is zipping around ๐ญ
ah well, gg anyway zanta!
Okay I'm going to check how bad my loss was. Hope not 5/5
I'm heading off for a bit got some more HSR story to do, I'll be back later ๐
The guy Iโve been trading spot 3/4 with in SP arena started buying tokens 
It was a closed loss, considered I got hard countered on 2 teams. 
Soda for the win. 
At least I won in teams where investment matter.
nooo i miss u bro 
@dense kindle gotta fight my fellow pie 

what evil is dis
i betted u tho
gng what teams can i build ๐ฅ ๐
Couldn't be helped. I know I would lose but it's good that I won the ones I did. 
Kinda got screwed by team order is all.
Hmm
iโm about to go down with you too 
@umbral belfry Iโve never doubted you for a second. Now go butcher the competition
Found if fahrenheit was beaten?
Who knows,ask doro
3 of us all logged this hour. 
@hollow lagoon vs @shell hazel nice , your match all came down to sg vs sg, congrats for the winner 
Who can replace SBS instead of vesti tac? SBS cannot go through noah biscuit. SAnis better?
Also thx @cunning crown for sending that guy where he belongs lol 
How Soda investment matters
soda doesnt die and can stun
Good morning, any suggestions on how to beat this composition?
1rl scar

Am I wrong? Scar jack would get ridiculous feed there
Just say Scar jack
Or rather Jack scar, can't trust people not rolling ammo
Fair
Still, one SMG isn't generally a lot
but I think Noah manages to block
Thats a 3rl team from the looks of it
Feed is short for bullet feed 
Rockets are booletes
Well, I will try
What's your idea of fast scar team 
Apparently, the composition I have is 2RL, what would a 1RL be?
1 RL would be:
- lvl 1 naked R unit
- lvl 1 naked R unit
- Noah
- Cindy
- Rosanna
But the team would probably still lose due to CP penalty 
Level 1 SSRs could never 
So, would this composition win?

that's my old guildie. idm losing to him bc that just means another pie wins
Alright what should I do?just use them?or turn them into perfect molds?
doubt my next one will go so well unfortunately but I was happy I could avenge thee 
Yes
Can they be transformed into perfect molds?
Yeah
I'll convert
Ok
Wait, access records aren't called perfect molds

How viable is this in Champion's arena? 
Yeah
I just confirmed the hard trust that Noah fixed in Arena makes 2rl Noah weaker.
See Cindy 3rl beat Noah with the 2nd round of her burst. 
3rl Cindy is the way forward now. 

Pog
Good luck to both of you
, I also have to beat him to face you 

Gonna become a shinigami to defeat a hollow
4-1 the wheel, some teams surprised me
I think brid might be this persons favourite nikke
Statistically it's better to use
Unless unlucky
Also mathematically, how much body labels are equal to perfect mold fragments
Let me do a quick back of the envelope calc
Soline treasure when? My perfect mold...
gold molds are 61% chance of SSR. The new Perfect recruit things are 61% + 24% every 4.16 fails. So approximately 67%
that rouge skin really brings out the this guy in me
So it's a 10% diff give or take. For a 1:1 exchange, molds would have to be 216 instead of 200.
So it's best to use. Unless unlucky as Echo said.
It's the perfect 100% rate Elysion mold. 
Oh I was calculating for the new access records thing
To be fair 216 versus 200 isn't all that different. All it takes is one extra unlucky one to be even. But you can also be unlucky with access records soooooo 
Fine. Let me me run a Monte Carlo. Goddamn it.
Rip Ade.
It was 9 molds

8/9 hell yea
Waos
pretty sure it's 5 out of 9, no way it's his first trina/rumani and sugar
Neon point
gimme
PvP Pros .. So, I apparently can beat 3 out of the top 10 in my bracket, I recently showed some here my bracket .. there is some people with 600K more cp than me.
However, even though I can beat 3 of them .. It seems I cant effectively defend against any of them. So it's just a constant back and forth of me taking a top 10 spot, then losing it, taking it back. And then, some of them use gems.
Anything I can do here?
I mean .. its only 2.4K gems per week .. and I feel like, as soon as I have to use gems more than 3 times, there is no point. Cause top 10 is 2400 gems .. top 11 - 30 is 2000 gems .. so, if I have to use gems 4 times .. i might as well just hover 11 - 30
Sugar totally is not on the first line of my Synchro machine at all
Not being able to defend is normal. The only defense that works is fully cp gap everyone
Dont gem for your spot
Hm .. is there something I can do timing wise? I'm on global
Is there like a .. best time to push a top 10 spot
To gain as much currency as possible
Gotcha ..
how much cs do I want on my noise noah cindy biscuit rumani team? overall 15% minimum?

25% minimum
Im sorry but youre bricked

you and @cunning crown will need to carry the power of friendship forward to the top 8
I'll just have to count my credit crates meanwhile 
when one gladiator falls, another takes its place
I did laugh though, I think 3-2 and the deciding match being sg vs sg with just ros at 5% hp left out of all 10 starting units is the perfect way to go out
is that you and @cunning crown ? ๐


I'll check who my next match is when I sign back in at reset
you guys not immediately fighting right?
oh lmao so zant vs zael final also not impossible 
then we'd have two sets of absolute cinema
zael is fighting moran guy they're pretty strong
this is more accurate sadly. me in the back re my next match
i guess i get to keep using bay version sg
people betting against me in next one tho
gonna be a funny one
what opponent teams like?
Scarlet loses to Bay
other issue is vesti can nuke your scarlet to death before 2RL
assuming you even live, because that's C7 Vesti
quite
especially if you lack jackal
also guilty
XMaid hits kinda hard too
yeah I think that's a loss
yeah that one's a wash
lol my scarlet is also going into that
Idek how
have a feeling I lost to them with the same thing, just scar dies between 1-2RL
He went from beating me whenever he had the opportunities to hit me, then started losing despite my defense not changing
I didnt even sync up
probably messed up OL somewhere
ye
I remember I lost once when I rerolled my RH for 4th Atk line and she stole link form my Rapi 
tho i dont think i can stop a rumani noah maiden combo which could still kill me
jackal link stealing is a very real oversight people can do
2RL RH buffed scar will just one tap them or die before she bursts basically
biscuit protection means nothing against insta-wipe
too bad my ca scarlet is still core 3
it's enough
oh wait its core 4
if my 2LB is enough
too much stock in cores maybe, it helps but if you're around MLB or so it's not a huge gap
full 0LB team vs c7 shows though
pulled a vesti today kek
I'll hopefully just max her slowly over time as she stays in wishlist but it's going to be RNG
These are my defenses, its not like they're even good
nah it aint that bad, i gotten 2 vesti since the end of the banner
I mean I barely pulled anything/anyone lately haha
for me it's a slow burn occasional pulls or ord tickets I don't get that many
i decided to use some blue tickets cuz i'm suffering rn
I found the reason
suffering? ๐ฎ
anni I'll spend resources/molds/pulls etc
did we work out if it was worth trading surplus old ssr molds for the new type?
@shell hazel when you claiming ch1, after reset? 
yeah will try after reset
le sick
need to see if the vesti team is repeatable
should be consistent
in theory it should be
gonna be gud documentation
yeah, I don't leave the videos up as public necessarily btw in case they're monitoring this chat
but if you want me to unlist something to see I can do it
as I don't want to a) show them what I run or b) give them ideas on what to run
I've just copied their defence, not because I think it's amazing, but I want them to have to face their own cooking ๐
@umbral crown one of the few matches i don't even need to look at the teams for
instant click 
that's fine it's my own documentation 
did you watch the matches I posted rail against zant? is def ๐ฟ
linkeroni
hilarious slow cindy vs counter against slow cindy vs counter
first 2 matches 
wowie bay outvalued
nero moran against non blanc vestiTU behaves like any regular matchup
mhm interesting
one would think you're both copying each other homeworks based on those teams 
think both our SG comps could do with some work here tbh, looking at the cp and such
bsoda probably a decent counter with bay think her burst is aoe?
my SG's lost to a similar comp before but was Noah instead of Bay, but I felt like Noah in that team is just a huge waste of Noah
bay viable now?
oh btw I really like the noise skin you have zanta but damn $20 for skin alone was too much for me on that one
I only did that for Alice one so far ๐
i like noise mroe than alice
if you want the skins getting them with the passes and the tickets is so much better value
and tha skin really work with noise's skintone
obv before our time
yeah it looks great I'd buy if it was a bit less
but I don't want to $20 skin with nothing else if I can avoid
i dont get all of them, only the ones i like
before gacha skin the only other one I'd have considered was the helm one I think
the gown dress thing
helm and isabel one i gonna get if it re runs
but with the gacha one I doubt I'll use it, does look great though
isabel hard skip for me for sure
drake one with the sunglasses looks cool as well
as does noir/blanc ones
When open doc why they make it new sign?
display bug with the molds atm
It make us dont get extra body for nikke
non zero chance i build isabel for upcoming raid
hmm 
long list of stuff to build ahead of that still
we're about 3 weeks away from anni I think - I'm going to have to save stuff
soon even gear xp will want to OL the new pilgrim asap
I'm going to see if I can avoid spending skill books and rocks for now
oh yeah and doll mats, might be another CA of barely build xanne at least...
Yeah shes so strong
Btw hippo
You wanna see if you can make me better defense teams?
I think you can cook the best teams already ๐
for your roster
you've graduated as railtracers student
I'd also say if you're not losing, don't change anything. Only change if you feel you need to
I wanna eventually drop the cp team 3 and run real teams
you have to invest in PvP for like 3-4 months straight to have real teams
need a lot of built units for it
Im only on my first month of pvp invest
2 teams + cp pad can be effective also
all your SR doll mats and all your interception gear exp
have to go into batteries and PvP nukers
Thats what ive been doing
your skill books too
I shouldn't need to invest any other pve units for quite a while
if you're lucky you can finish like 3 chars a month, but without full burst weekend it's closer to 2.5 a month 
snail pace progress
or you can cash and speed up the process 
can SR-15 maybe 2 units a month but I do re-roll dispatches a bit
source: have about 24 units SR-15 after 1 year of playing almost lol
mind you drake event injected a couple of those
well Bigboi spends a bit so maybe he can invest in extra wipeout and dispatch reroll

I've split focus a bit on campaign + pvp and only now really starting to get to a point where I have most pvp units where I want them (minus a lot of rocks re-rolling)
skills / dolls on core units pretty good. CA extended what I had to build a bit though, if building for CA also it needs even more than a few months
I only have 13 sr15 
but you only played 6 months you said so it's about right
double that time and boom about my count
laplace event at anni
wipeout free + 50 + 70 + 100 as a light spender is doable
espcially if you consider the 3000 gems from pvp as put towards that goal
5 months and 20 days
5x5 event at anni
I don't doll dispatch reset too much, do you do that at all bigboi?
2 a day max
yeah similar then, I don't go crazy it's not worth it
I usually get it back from dispatch as well
as a relatively new player myself i think once is always worth it, and i'm not even at full dispatch list from outpost core upgrades, like there a good chance you just get all you spend there back in form of gems
The gems are just a nice bonus, the dust is what im going for
yeah I want core dust/doll crates more than gems just often gems appear for me
i'm doing it mainly for dolls, and dust is bonus 
2 month of gametime, 1 RL doll 
yeah though you can swap 3 purple doll for a selector. I tend to just always select the purple RL doll using the Solo Raid level 7 box
I get so many sg dolls
pvp focus needs a lot of RL dolls
Yeah, most of my units are just blue dolls
Im hoping this raid gives me some rl dolls
dont wanna ever equip purple dolls without getting blue ones first
and i cannot even get lucky and get blue RL dolls first, always MG/smg for some reason
I lost top 16 due having 0 scarlet dupes
Bro literally had a last nikke at 3% hp
And then i got that Scarlet Dupe just today

Congrats, now you're 1% off from winning a rematch
Im pretty sure the scarlet and laplace dupes i got today woulda been enough to win...

Laplace too
Yeah my scarlet team is jackal,scarlet,blanc,maiden and laplace
So that 3% hp definitely would be byebye if i got those dupes a few days earlier
I find I start to cap on these eventually. I keep 2-3 of each blue one and trade the rest out
this is with starting everyone on blue dolls and giving them out to the main units + some random ones I've not really used much
yea, soon will happen to me on some dolls too, like i have 6 smg ones and all i need is 3, maybe 4, and that is stretching, top priority among them is like only 1
will hoard until anni i guess, then will see, not really in need of purple ones rn
wish they was giving blue doll selector from solo raids
gonna take forever to equip pvp units otherwise or until i get lucky
Hello. Any better option for replacement of SBS?
I have run jackal SBS blanc comp for CA but it seemed not good.
SBS couldnt do anything against noah biscuit.
I considered Ein but I heard Ein's feather may keep attacking noah because of taunt.
Would SAnis be better?
sanis or besti
I gonna consider SAnis then because I run my besti on diff squad.
Hmm how about ada? Is there any research for ada?
no clue havent tried her yet
indom ada isn't bad
sbs and sanis both abusable, better with vesti or hell even ada lol
ohkoing with indom ada 
5 champs in this top 8 
I see evil cup there
even if I lose it's okay, that just means a pie in top 4
@worthy sorrel evil 

radeki is a ๐ณ
a lot of competition Hime but believe in the me that believes in you
I will do my best

readeki is f2p
free 2 pay
Yeah radeki is f2p

can confirm
smh when you guys gonna become p2w like me 
could never
same I would never spend a penny on nikke
just multiple pennies stacked into dollars
sorry @hollow lagoon @cunning crown can't vote on your games ๐
@tropic summit I know my round 2 will win but idk how to deal with the other two
I know the ada team can kill that cindy team but the cp deficit and its 3RL
idk if I can survive before bursting on it
@tropic summit

I have a recording when you get online next
its a flip on soda stun
blame shift up they're the evil ones 
I have bad news
it's gonna depend on soda rng
I can't help you 
๐ญ
but I will say most times single scar doesn't beat stall
so voting phoric is a safe pick, just be mindful it's rng if soda stuns helm
bc then no b1 in time
sooo vote carefully 


meh you gotta back yourself anyway right
I only backed you because it was you and it gave me the win/win lol

is it done?
Let me seee
where le popcorno record
@umbral belfry still pink
it might be, I was waiting for you
t3 I just sent whatever no expectations it would win just high cp nonsense so ignore that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ_6RRBup94
double cycle T1
noah biscuit helmt jackal rh
CP is a bit of a problem so doublecheck that
else punish T3 with padded scar-jack
Would it be better if I swapped in t vesti here in place of no favorite item drake
awesome
rapu didn't get even downed, god comp 
looks consistent enough
see how xmaiden good as b3 on scar team
now tell him to get 2RL indom vesti pls
need to beat vestiTU on indom 2RL with that comp 
go tell him to change def 
learn chinese to communicate with him 
ya but vestiTU will get stuck on p1
she'll delete p2 and p3 although
then you out trade with who remains alive on p4 and p5
her burst hits all 5 though no?
iirc her burst isn't lethal?
can be, it can depend
Holy chunk
it's the followup shoots

if they're locked in p1 should be a-ok
it also depends what they move to do it, if they weaken cindy comp it becomes viulnerable as well
If you have vesti it would change the team entirely, @tropic summit can you help? Im not available atm
Mineโs 8/7/6
I invested a lot in my stall comp ๐
just need some nero dupes even mlb is fine
team looks fine, good balance of speed and CP with what he has
am I able to not use jackal in that team so I can try to scar jack team 3?
Ok 8/7/7 now
hmmm you need to hit 2RL or 2.5RL depending on that team speed
if 2.5RL, you can afford losing out jackal
With or without vesti?
I was about to send this in, its 2.5 lol
don't use vestiTU, she looks far too little invested for now
no reason tanking your CP to gain a bit of speed
oh you can indom vestiTU on that? would probably work
Even if I got her to 4/6/6? she has 19k and drake 16k
do your vesti emi sync?
Siren and vesti are synced but I piut vigor cube on siren
vesti has lower health pool
should get indom I think
i mean vesti emi hit at same time
in that case it's fine, won't affect team speed and won't drop CP
oh
same frame, it makes emi s2 do dumb damage
works better as a flex unit
idk I couldn't tell last time I looked because I didn't understand how to read the chart
in nikke work, need both of their hits on same frame
mbe try adding a bit of cs on vesti in that sim, 1 more bracket
Pretty sure scar team dies to his t3
Can I somehow fit in crown in one of those two teams since sheโs like my second highest cp character
you're in deficit aren't you
always have been
she feeds
she gives bad burst
she tanks your team RL threshold
I see, Iโll leave her out then ty 
I'm out of deficit against team 1 with this but its counting on lap to sack
indom is gonna be iffy there
hm guess vesti emi syncing one of their first shots requires slower emi
don't rely on that sync shot bug
risking a ban for something that gets fixed in a few weeks prolly not worth it
emi s2 just always been like this i think
maybe I try siren vesti lap blanc drake?
is that a better order
still need siren to sack
indom priority at that point is likely on vesti
although still kind of a gamble
against no splasher/SGs siren can survive 2RL on SR15 + temperance
also its a 3RL team
against splasher or single SG she can die within 2RL
theres no way they would ban ppl for the units working wrong though
there is if it's determined it's on purpose and you were aware of an exploit
as i said, i wouldn't risk it so it's up to you
watching a JP guy cooked this order and the result is similar.
his cindy got killed and didn't burst
his mihara killed everything except indom'ed opponent
his rumani out indom and won
Bas7ial vid was also about who out indom who anyway.
its like saying ppl should stop using mihara in pve because her kit is coded poorly so it does more damage than its supposed to
tbh it's hard to draw a line, although something that deletes a team within 1RL should raise a few more questions
if you don't see anything wrong there all good... i clearly see it 
it is different situation than the Alice charge bug
i mean i think emis kit has always been bugged like this....since it could do this with other units before like laplace t
and i think they will fix it anyway so no point in chasing for temporary power
maybe, if there's a bug/unintended coding, should we endorse abusing a bug or actually giving feedback to get it fixed?
3RL she died just before being able to burst, I could try tempering on her
I had vigor on her
bro is testing in production 
temperance MIGHT give you that tiny bit of time to cast B1
nope still died
even noise / noah cannot tank. i doubt siren can 
if ur just going for better rolls, prob no, if its a 3rd line black and u are going to use 100 rocks to get better line 1 and 2 maybe
unless going broke on the locks use them whenever in place of rocks
There is no better lines for her, im probably gonna be dumping alot of rocks into that piece trying to get better values
since it alr has the 3 final lines its prob fine
if it didnt itd take potentially more on top of trying to get the right lines
almost
lock ammo or effects? if you plan to avoid siren stun is fine, but i say that is better if you get more dmg to kill siren before the stun
I doubt they'd ban for it, too many people would hit it by chance
some people probably accidentally sync shot, just they could fix and waste of resources trying to sync stuff
my CA fights against rosanna teams
you think they gave a damn when they found out how many ppl were false positive when using alice?
How am I supposed to kill a p4 siren before she stuns
SU banned people who got social points by accident when there was the exploit with the mail
yeah it would be like them banning people for abusing the seasonal bugs
a friend of mine got banned for a day because they assumed he was using macro with alice
even some people said that i was getting social points with that bug and i was... i don't pull
but there was no basis to even ensure it was true, they never gave proof 
Suffering from success smh
I don't remember this one, I guess for that it's potentially giving them extra free pulls though
with dmg, way more dmg
so many people seem to macro with alice, I don't do it but my alice always sucks dmg wise ๐
it really takes nothing to actually do decent
you don't need to ensure you don't waste 0.1 per charged shoot
just time your clicks
Just do that
yeah I try lmao just I'm not perfect ๐
I dislike manual alice anyway tbh, I do it for SR and such
i tried before the ban and got more dmg manual; crit rng
but the main point for some people is the health risk
Im lucky im not quite skilled enough to get the funny message
but am glad I got rapi for campaign ๐
yet*
The only time I play alice is union/solo raid
honestly they making alice better with fast shots is just part of the game, just lucky we're getting to a point of alice being powercrept out eventually anywya
I had to manual alice for some campaign bits before I got my rapi stuff done
rh released after a year
yeah I was running RH + Alice at the same time for a bit
pve team was liter/centi/alice/priv/flex
as my cindy was lacking gear for a time
I've decided to say fk it, we going back to test matrixes and let the results decide
and you have to pause to kill the mobs in the back
If someone has not told you guys today: Y'all wonderful!
So whether or not I run Mihara next CA will depend on the win rate results from my test matrix
bigboi mentioned it earlier
mihara rng, 4 marks most of the time, after that is dupes or blanc/biscuit, 2nd team makima/biscuit, without those or biscuit you need high core count
Well, you guys need to hear it more often! You are a godsend for me! I am on Challenger 4 and loving it!
Do you think I can do this with a slight power deficit?
My team is 4rl somehow lol
Theirs is like 100rl
sbs against ssrapi
Helm fixes all problems
naga will kill ein and rapi sbs
Will she fix this problem
if you already win the other 2 fights you can test
might win by virtue of you actually burst this century
but otherwise I'd hit the other 2 teams as more reliable

The only reliable is team 2 and team 3
the rapu grave team is bants
Bants?
Oh thats just slow Cindy I didnt change anything
Cindy p1
I was going to swap it out
it's slow cindy maybe yeah but think you still want blanc to b2 then ๐
I could probably slot rh or Cindy in team 3 for the power
what would crush the t1 is jackal/biscuit feed from that
but I suspect too low cp
or just jackal and otherwise high cp
What I'm using for team 3 is like my top 7 nikke power wise
Ein for Cindy or rh may get the last bit
yeah you're still in range then as well
keep RH on the other team can use as main burst and b1
Cindy makes the power 312k
are you expecting sbs to die?
Idk why she has rhe most power of all my nikke
cindy can stay with slow cindy team
To die or get stunned yeah
yeah that should work
slot someone in for RH, mihara works if you have her
even if low cp you can shed a bit there and she'll dot them
I dont have midhara
siren then, additional stun impact
doesn't matter if she dies chain for b1 is rumani b2 blanc b3 cindy
The dude is gonna login like "wtf how did he beat me" 
and if siren doesn't die she can do a better b1 than rumani
they're only 1 level off the cp jump though
yeah, record/send that should win I think
who?
interested to see ๐ฟ
oh shiet 242 vs 300
yeah lol
Like this?
Sbs died too fast
I could be wrong but I think she sticks to b3
no
Unfortunate
rapi stays b1?
yea
No
Rh, Tia, b.alice, x.rupee aren't real b1
Also rrh will not work as a b1 for rrh in coop
it's unlucky to lose that
shame your slow cindy comp is low cp as I think that would also chomp that team up
if you had trina built you could also trina/moran some invincibility but I think at a certain point it's just sync gap
Nah it's 100% sync gap
Talking about me?
I live in constant synch gap bc Check doesn't saves core dust

I wanted to show big bird I was the biggest bird
they're not a mega hyper whale at least not that many cores
Btw when do I get shuffled into your bracket
This dude has some sloppy teams, think he's just trying to power gap
12296
tbh that one extra sync they need will come pretty quick 
I remembered what I saw on blabla today
Hime's bully shake

Echo should I?
I will
am thinking about it
Dam, 297 gives that much






