#pvp-arena

1 messages ยท Page 519 of 1

upper harbor
#

Only buy the occasional BP and 2 costume so far I think

#

Sorry wrong reply lol

limber patrol
#

how would the team look like?

#

jackaless Scarlet

placid breach
#

also trying to beat this guy Lol it gonna be back forth tho. I beat him before but now i some how cant :/

north brook
#

Not really ideal, needs trina and scar is still a bit glass

shell hazel
#

my jackal and noise link here actually.
I'd probably run this though

#

jackal links with vesti and trina poggies

north brook
#

Think ideally u want to do bisc blanc rumani indom strat

shell hazel
#

or this with noise p1 so she fires

limber patrol
tropic summit
#

based on ur box i can suggest these

jackal siren trina scarlet draket
noise rapu helmt laplaceT centi (upgrade bay into bayT can this team can run her instead)
noah biscuit rrh rh rumani

shell hazel
tropic summit
shell hazel
#

xmaiden always cleans house when she b3 against that team

tropic summit
#

alrighty

#

then i guess you'll win next matchup

shell hazel
#

scarlet dead instantlyl, she just mops up afterwards

#

though usually it's bay instead of noah for it, who does heal a bit

tropic summit
#

noah 3s will be enough to drop them low enough for the out trade anyway

shell hazel
#

I feel that vesti will still add enough dps on top to finish them off, without the risk of being almost one tapped by ros or bursting then dead

tropic summit
#

agreed

#

just needs to survive rosanna with tempura

#

although you'll have noise B1 aswell this time

shell hazel
#

I've faced that team many times the scar crumbles as soon as her burst doesn't land

tropic summit
#

which adds resistance to it

shell hazel
#

yeah I'll send after reset tomorrow Rail ๐Ÿ™‚

tropic summit
shell hazel
#

thanks for all the help (and the others who helped also pitching in ideas! @gritty ridge @placid bloom @glad meteor )

upper harbor
#

Rng*

tropic summit
shell hazel
#

we managed to defeat the vesti team and it didn't feel close to me, so if that plays out like that each time then it's a comfortable win

tropic summit
#

ye that was satisfying

shell hazel
#

well guess it's more because noah and xmaiden are defenders ๐Ÿ™‚

tropic summit
#

a win that doesn't rely on mirror indom AliceBlush

placid breach
shell hazel
#

yeah

tropic summit
# placid breach

T1

  • noah biscuit helmt laplaceT noise

T2

  • skip

T3

  • scarlet trina rh centi jackal
shell hazel
#

I've set my defence to their defence so when I do win they can have fun beating their own defence teams AliceLove

limber patrol
tropic summit
placid breach
#

i dont have her :/

tropic summit
#

trina gives her immunity from 0RL to 1RL, you then survive dmg from 1RL to 2RL to burst

limber patrol
#

temperance is the dmg reduction cube?

tropic summit
tropic summit
tropic summit
gritty ridge
#

Should I get lvp 8 tempura or lvl 7 tempura and work on quantum?

tropic summit
#

else get temperance up

gritty ridge
gritty ridge
#

I figured tempura would help me more in general so I picked it before quantum

shell hazel
#

whilst I do think true you want quantum to 7 first

crystal flicker
#

So this does not work because Centi got 1 tapped pepehmmm

umbral crown
umbral crown
crystal flicker
gritty ridge
#

I bet your centi isnt even c7 max level overload gear with 4 black defense lines

swift mango
crystal flicker
gritty ridge
umbral crown
#

But yours not enoug slots uwu

crystal flicker
#

I'm actually using Tempering on Scarlet

swift mango
gritty ridge
#

3 is more than 1

crystal flicker
#

The solution is simple, 25% CS TimiProud

umbral crown
#

Te solution is jackal

crystal flicker
#

I'm using Jackal to boost VesTac

swift mango
crystal flicker
#

Bruh

umbral crown
#

Mods were faster

umbral crown
gritty ridge
#

Nah they put the attachment limit low enough that the bots get auto cleared

#

Its very smart

umbral crown
#

Still there are cooks that uses vesti without jackal

swift mango
#

My Centi used to hold P5 and shot her 2nd bullet just fine in the lower bracket that is. Now if I had to fight 1st-2nd month guys, she died in 2 hits.

umbral crown
#

So you can give jackal to scar

swift mango
#

I have research gap right now and scar vs Rossana is instantly dead. Even full HP core +3 RH getting one shot by Rossana.

umbral crown
#

I love when tht team faces my nero team

swift mango
umbral crown
umbral crown
#

The only one who have killed y rapu is a vesti blan team

#

Even cindy from whales have not

#

Who are 521+

swift mango
umbral crown
#

Look those C7

#

Bro 535

swift mango
umbral crown
#

Tomorrow im facing a 556

swift mango
umbral crown
swift mango
#

And if whale spending dupe points to buying from shop.

umbral crown
#

They get more since they have way more levels than me uwu

crystal flicker
#

What's your VesTac comp pepehmmm

umbral crown
#

Still that comp have not lost

crystal flicker
#

NOah?

umbral crown
#

Strong noah btw dogfine

swift mango
crystal flicker
#

Emi burning so hard

#

Also that Blanc should be SR15 pepehmmm

#

And poor placement

swift mango
swift mango
# umbral crown

I mean, my Vesti team in p3 would beat both of these team before I even burst. clueless

umbral crown
#

S4

swift mango
umbral crown
swift mango
umbral crown
#

When i was not using nero team back then

swift mango
#

Keripo use Centi and his team not even 2rl. Just like yours pepehmmm

umbral crown
#

Mine is 2 RL Doro vesit got more burst gen, besides my vesti is 17 cs

#

Even RH has some cs

swift mango
umbral crown
swift mango
#

But it's fine if enemies doesn't have much CS anyway

umbral crown
#

Did nikke work updated the gen of vesti and laplace?

swift mango
umbral crown
#

If nikke work updated gen, team should be 2 and laplace as keripo said is clip rl

swift mango
#

90.2+7.8=98 < 100

#

RH is 2.8 on singer target and 5.6 when piercing cover.

#

So if RH pierce cover once, it's faster than 2rl. If she doesn't, it's a bit slower.

#

If there is Cindy or PoliT p1-2-3 then it's naturally 2rl.

#

And I mean, if you are faster than 2rl (hit burst at Vesti 2nd shot) Noah would dodge siren as well with your team having above 11% CS on average.

#

Well, my Vesti team in current CA is also NOT 2rl, it need feeds to jackal to hit there.

#

Minimal feed team with high CS could burst before my Blanc. But those teams only exist in rookie

umbral crown
#

And put emilia 8%

#

Vesti cs

#

Centi cs

swift mango
umbral crown
swift mango
umbral crown
#

Emi 29 if lucky next season

swift mango
#

I'm trying to make my Emi natural 15% too, 1% short.... Need to hit a 5% lines somehow. 20 rocks already but failed.

#

Maybe I save 100

umbral crown
#

My.emi is 12 without S1

#

I had a 4 % line ready to be 16 but not gonna lose ammo and ele for cs

swift mango
#

Mine is 14% ShiftyDed

umbral crown
#

Just need to force the others to be blue or black

unique mountain
swift mango
#

4.63
4.63
5.21
ShiftyDed

umbral crown
#

Mine has lower %, i just had forgotten to fix them for a long while

#

One even is 3.75 or 45

umbral crown
quick lake
gritty ridge
#

How did noah die here? The match definitely wasn't long enough for both bisc procs to finish

lunar pawn
#

Probably early proc

coarse lake
#

it's alice Shrug

gritty ridge
#

They didnt burst lmao

coarse lake
#

then gonna need recording

gritty ridge
#

This is the first time shes ever died so ill record when they hit me again

gritty ridge
#

Im above 1 mil power now yippee

limber patrol
#

will this work?

north brook
#

Wth is that team

radiant coral
limber patrol
#

nvm it works lol

radiant coral
#

O

#

If it works then it works lol

limber patrol
#

sadly there's no moc battle for pvp KEKW

radiant coral
#

If it did then everyone would have 100% win rate sadly

primal charm
#

how many cs my vesti need chat?

obtuse dagger
gritty ridge
primal charm
#

to make it from this

#

to this

thin abyss
#

I think it's 15%

gaunt bane
#

Me & this guy's beef

#

he switched to an even higher cp team, gapping me at 81% but I still manage to hang on

#

oh and RH really sucks in jackal team orz

swift mango
quick lake
swift mango
#

or losing otherwise

swift mango
limber patrol
#

the problem now is the Scarlet team, doesn't work without Jackal. Scarlet dies even without deficit.

glad meteor
main trail
#

why does noah want more cs than noise and where should they be placed assuming noah is faster

shell hazel
#

last hit taunts, so you want noah to shoot earlier

#

assuming a standard noise noah position

main trail
#

so the taunt would be on noise in that case i assume right

#

also my noise is 15% and my noah is 21%, is that chill or what

shell hazel
#

that's fine, about 5% diff is best

crystal flicker
#

Atp it feels like even if I didn't login for a week, I'll still hold C3 and qualify for CA

rotund karma
#

I need 3 team for arena how could i compost with this? Im lacking for meta nikke

river dune
#

Is it ok for me to swap for my team 3 to team 2 for this fight?KEKW, can Rumani handle Emilia?

#

I should also swap 1 for 3 after that

shell hazel
#

have you checked deficit as you're in it?

#

you need to check the deficit min requirements of each team

shell hazel
rich ledge
#

Oh yea just a random thought CP increases exponentially with sync level right?

rotund karma
#

I just need reference team that I currently have, and also Im lacking some of it like I don't have biscuit so what alternative if without her

supple plover
#

Hello everyone. I have a question regarding pvp teams. Some time ago I got recomended this team with my collection. I recieved Rapunzel from that time and Chrismas Anne. My question is. Should I use Rapunzel or Anne in any of these teams? My collection for reference

#

And I also recieved Besti Tactical Upgrade

leaden canyon
supple plover
leaden canyon
#

just your highest level cubes will pretty much work because I doubt your pvp cubes are really leveled. But cindy and noise can get vigor cubes

#

rapunzel vigor too

#

if you dont have a third then tempering works

supple plover
#

Alright. And what about Vesti? Isn't she very good in pvp?

leaden canyon
#

yes shes good in pvp, she just falls under the category of putting your highest cube

#

Which will probably be resilience since you should be leveling that for content

elder cosmos
#

i have everyone but them, which pvp teams would work in sp arena?

supple plover
leaden canyon
elder cosmos
supple plover
#

Thank you for your suggestions. I am really grateful as I am total noob

elder cosmos
supple plover
leaden canyon
river dune
leaden canyon
#

No defense is perfect, just up to how smart your enemy is

elder cosmos
leaden canyon
#

your pvp defense

pliant spear
#

You typically just play around 3 types of PvP teams, a Blanc one that lets your DPS outlast the enemy team

#

A Biscuit one that does moreless the same but only for defender units

#

And a Noah one that lets you tank screenwipes for 3s

river dune
#

Alright so it's just these first two teams

leaden canyon
#

if you think you dont need cindy there for cp pad then you can use something else

#

But should win with cindy there

#

as long as your helm has enough cs for 2.5

river dune
#

I see thanks

river dune
shell hazel
#

after which you take stat penalties and have less chance to win, which just gets worse the larger the gap gets

river dune
quartz rover
#

Who gets the sr doll pepehmmm

shell hazel
leaden canyon
shell hazel
#

there is no penalty above 85% ish, below that it's instantly 20% and then just goes up from there

quartz rover
#

I dont even have a dupe for lap

#

Im sure ill get a Sr doll for her eventually

leaden canyon
#

vesti it is then

leaden canyon
quartz rover
#

Yeah

leaden canyon
#

kk

quartz rover
#

I only skipped a R doll once because I needed it for rrh to climb story

shell hazel
#

trying to save my doll mats for new anni unit(s)

#

a bit away still but we'll see pepehmmm

#

<@&946725432554836008>

swift mango
shell hazel
#

thanks for the credits @hollow lagoon prayge

#

decided by sg team 3 with your ros being the only left alive at 5% or so

#

going for winner frame again

#

gz also @cunning crown HelmSalute

#

power of friendship continues with my death

#

tenshi out also moran guy won

swift mango
shell hazel
#

no lmao you said I'd switch my vote ๐Ÿ˜„

#

and I said I'd win it or walk out with 6h credits, a verified win/win

swift mango
swift mango
shell hazel
cunning crown
shell hazel
#

haha 75% in favour of me beating zant as well but quite literally we had a coin toss going on

#

my ros wasn't lethal enough I think just missed killing bsoda/draket

swift mango
#

I probably lost yesterday.

shell hazel
cunning crown
#

Bay defeated anne in the marketplace of shotguns

shell hazel
#

i'll be honest though, my xanne has literally nothing except some skills

#

I think if I get her some min invest she'll do even better

#

SR-5 and some basic OL should be fine ๐Ÿ™‚

#

my SG team is my least invested one really outside of Rosa

shell hazel
#

missing one atk roll but lack the rocks as Rail keeps stealing them

#

my DrakeT rolls are super mid though she has good cp it's padding mostly

#

hit rate, charge dmg, charge speed - it's all initial rolls ๐Ÿ˜„

swift mango
shell hazel
#

she's my 3rd highest cp unit in the whole game atm crazy

swift mango
shell hazel
cunning crown
#

The timeline diverges for want of a rocket ChimeCry

#

Or two

shell hazel
#

which xanne could do if she was alive

swift mango
shell hazel
#

I don't have her treasured, actually main reason is my lack of invest tbh

#

but I think zant also misses some here

swift mango
shell hazel
#

zanta sg team

#

my sg team

shell hazel
#

ikr

swift mango
shell hazel
#

yes mine was a bit off, maybe crit vs not crit there

#

unsure didn't check in detail

swift mango
gritty ridge
#

Back shots you say

swift mango
gritty ridge
shell hazel
#

I am wanting to burst with drake, I expect bsoda to die mostly, though xanne revives

gritty ridge
#

Rip

shell hazel
#

xanne at p2 with no upgrades is toast though

swift mango
shell hazel
#

hard to follow what happens exactly in the matches though even so, cameras zoom about too much

#

yeah possible to swap noir/draket I suppose, I just never really thought about it too much ๐Ÿ˜›

swift mango
shell hazel
#

my sg teams need more work in general but I'm kind of in saving mode for anni stuff

#

I'll eventually get them all to SR-15 and some better OL states, though xanne prob stay SR-5 for a while

#

I can use noir/drake/bsoda in pve

swift mango
shell hazel
#

yeah, my ros not one tap her, but I can't see if it crit or not, or how much it did as the camera is zipping around ๐Ÿ˜ญ

#

ah well, gg anyway zanta!

swift mango
#

Okay I'm going to check how bad my loss was. Hope not 5/5

shell hazel
#

I'm heading off for a bit got some more HSR story to do, I'll be back later ๐Ÿ™‚

velvet jungle
#

The guy Iโ€™ve been trading spot 3/4 with in SP arena started buying tokens hmmz

swift mango
#

It was a closed loss, considered I got hard countered on 2 teams. pain

#

At least I won in teams where investment matter.pain

umbral belfry
#

@dense kindle gotta fight my fellow pie Sadge

hollow lagoon
#

what evil is dis

#

i betted u tho

fossil sage
#

gng what teams can i build ๐Ÿฅ€ ๐Ÿ’”

swift mango
worldly osprey
glad glade
#

@umbral belfry Iโ€™ve never doubted you for a second. Now go butcher the competition

unique mountain
swift mango
#

3 of us all logged this hour. pain

nimble swan
#

@hollow lagoon vs @shell hazel nice , your match all came down to sg vs sg, congrats for the winner cocoathumb

fast nest
#

Who can replace SBS instead of vesti tac? SBS cannot go through noah biscuit. SAnis better?

nimble swan
#

Also thx @cunning crown for sending that guy where he belongs lol CrownHUH

rich ledge
#

I lost as expected

#

Recap on the teams

keen vapor
rich ledge
#

soda doesnt die and can stun

brazen geyser
#

Good morning, any suggestions on how to beat this composition?

gritty ridge
#

1rl scar

keen vapor
gritty ridge
#

Am I wrong? Scar jack would get ridiculous feed there

keen vapor
gritty ridge
#

Fair

keen vapor
#

Still, one SMG isn't generally a lot

gritty ridge
#

Cindy p2

#

25% more gen from rl

brazen geyser
gritty ridge
keen vapor
#

Feed is short for bullet feed NovelHmm

gritty ridge
#

Rockets are booletesDoro

brazen geyser
keen vapor
brazen geyser
gritty ridge
#

That would become 1rl against this team

#

I just said it in a bad way

spiral onyx
#

1 RL would be:

  • lvl 1 naked R unit
  • lvl 1 naked R unit
  • Noah
  • Cindy
  • Rosanna

But the team would probably still lose due to CP penalty kekCoffee

keen vapor
#

Level 1 SSRs could never clueless

brazen geyser
umbral belfry
#

that's my old guildie. idm losing to him bc that just means another pie wins

river dune
#

Alright what should I do?just use them?or turn them into perfect molds?

cunning crown
keen vapor
brazen geyser
river dune
#

Yeah

river dune
#

Ok

keen vapor
pliant spear
river dune
#

Yeah

swift mango
#

I just confirmed the hard trust that Noah fixed in Arena makes 2rl Noah weaker.

See Cindy 3rl beat Noah with the 2nd round of her burst. pain

#

3rl Cindy is the way forward now. hmmz

terse abyss
keen vapor
#

Pog

dense kindle
umbral crown
#

Wheel was sent to pack ty things

#

@swift mango

umbral belfry
#

go rosy

umbral crown
#

4-1 the wheel, some teams surprised me

halcyon arrow
#

I think brid might be this persons favourite nikke

clear vessel
keen vapor
#

Unless unlucky

keen vapor
clear vessel
#

Let me do a quick back of the envelope calc

swift mango
#

Soline treasure when? My perfect mold...

clear vessel
#

gold molds are 61% chance of SSR. The new Perfect recruit things are 61% + 24% every 4.16 fails. So approximately 67%

cunning crown
clear vessel
#

So it's a 10% diff give or take. For a 1:1 exchange, molds would have to be 216 instead of 200.

#

So it's best to use. Unless unlucky as Echo said.

swift mango
clear vessel
#

To be fair 216 versus 200 isn't all that different. All it takes is one extra unlucky one to be even. But you can also be unlucky with access records soooooo adedizzy

clear vessel
#

Fine. Let me me run a Monte Carlo. Goddamn it.

clear vessel
#

8/9 hell yea

umbral crown
gaunt pulsar
#

pretty sure it's 5 out of 9, no way it's his first trina/rumani and sugar

keen vapor
#

Neon point

umbral belfry
high stream
#

PvP Pros .. So, I apparently can beat 3 out of the top 10 in my bracket, I recently showed some here my bracket .. there is some people with 600K more cp than me.
However, even though I can beat 3 of them .. It seems I cant effectively defend against any of them. So it's just a constant back and forth of me taking a top 10 spot, then losing it, taking it back. And then, some of them use gems.
Anything I can do here?
I mean .. its only 2.4K gems per week .. and I feel like, as soon as I have to use gems more than 3 times, there is no point. Cause top 10 is 2400 gems .. top 11 - 30 is 2000 gems .. so, if I have to use gems 4 times .. i might as well just hover 11 - 30

swift mango
gritty ridge
#

Dont gem for your spot

high stream
#

Hm .. is there something I can do timing wise? I'm on global

#

Is there like a .. best time to push a top 10 spot

#

To gain as much currency as possible

gritty ridge
#

You can attack before you go to bed and hope you keep overnight

#

Thats abt it tho

high stream
#

Gotcha ..

spare nimbus
#

how much cs do I want on my noise noah cindy biscuit rumani team? overall 15% minimum?

spare nimbus
#

I have 15% on all my units except noise

gritty ridge
#

Im sorry but youre bricked

swift mango
shell hazel
#

I'll just have to count my credit crates meanwhile pepehmmm

shell hazel
#

when one gladiator falls, another takes its place

#

I did laugh though, I think 3-2 and the deciding match being sg vs sg with just ros at 5% hp left out of all 10 starting units is the perfect way to go out

hollow lagoon
#

me sick today, stay home and play Senran Kagura Peach Beach Splash

shell hazel
#

me been sick lately also

#

me stayed home also

shell hazel
hollow lagoon
shell hazel
#

I'll check who my next match is when I sign back in at reset

#

you guys not immediately fighting right?

hollow lagoon
shell hazel
#

oh lmao so zant vs zael final also not impossible pepehmmm

#

then we'd have two sets of absolute cinema

#

zael is fighting moran guy they're pretty strong

cunning crown
hollow lagoon
#

i guess i get to keep using bay version sg

#

people betting against me in next one tho

#

gonna be a funny one

shell hazel
#

what opponent teams like?

cunning crown
#

my rh buffed scarlet into this will be fun

#

not confident lmao

placid bloom
#

Scarlet loses to Bay

shell hazel
#

other issue is vesti can nuke your scarlet to death before 2RL

placid bloom
#

assuming you even live, because that's C7 Vesti

cunning crown
#

quite

shell hazel
#

especially if you lack jackal

cunning crown
#

also guilty

placid bloom
#

XMaid hits kinda hard too

shell hazel
#

yeah I think that's a loss

cunning crown
#

yeah that one's a wash

hollow lagoon
gritty ridge
#

Idek how

hollow lagoon
shell hazel
#

have a feeling I lost to them with the same thing, just scar dies between 1-2RL

gritty ridge
#

He went from beating me whenever he had the opportunities to hit me, then started losing despite my defense not changing

#

I didnt even sync up

placid bloom
#

probably messed up OL somewhere

shell hazel
#

and 0LB

hollow lagoon
#

ye

placid bloom
#

I remember I lost once when I rerolled my RH for 4th Atk line and she stole link form my Rapi clueless

hollow lagoon
#

tho i dont think i can stop a rumani noah maiden combo which could still kill me

shell hazel
#

jackal link stealing is a very real oversight people can do

shell hazel
#

biscuit protection means nothing against insta-wipe

hollow lagoon
#

too bad my ca scarlet is still core 3

shell hazel
#

it's enough

hollow lagoon
#

oh wait its core 4

shell hazel
#

if my 2LB is enough

#

too much stock in cores maybe, it helps but if you're around MLB or so it's not a huge gap

#

full 0LB team vs c7 shows though

hollow lagoon
#

pulled a vesti today kek

shell hazel
#

I'll hopefully just max her slowly over time as she stays in wishlist but it's going to be RNG

gritty ridge
#

These are my defenses, its not like they're even good

hollow lagoon
shell hazel
#

for me it's a slow burn occasional pulls or ord tickets I don't get that many

hollow lagoon
#

i decided to use some blue tickets cuz i'm suffering rn

shell hazel
shell hazel
#

anni I'll spend resources/molds/pulls etc

#

did we work out if it was worth trading surplus old ssr molds for the new type?

tropic summit
#

@shell hazel when you claiming ch1, after reset? pepehmmm

hollow lagoon
shell hazel
#

need to see if the vesti team is repeatable

tropic summit
#

should be consistent

shell hazel
#

in theory it should be

tropic summit
#

gonna be gud documentation

shell hazel
#

yeah, I don't leave the videos up as public necessarily btw in case they're monitoring this chat

#

but if you want me to unlist something to see I can do it

#

as I don't want to a) show them what I run or b) give them ideas on what to run

#

I've just copied their defence, not because I think it's amazing, but I want them to have to face their own cooking ๐Ÿ˜„

tropic summit
#

@umbral crown one of the few matches i don't even need to look at the teams for

#

instant click EinkkPoint

tropic summit
shell hazel
#

did you watch the matches I posted rail against zant? is def ๐Ÿฟ

tropic summit
#

for when i'll need it myself PrettySmile

#

since hippo coming into my bracket soon AdmiOno

tropic summit
#

hilarious slow cindy vs counter against slow cindy vs counter

#

first 2 matches KEKW

#

wowie bay outvalued

#

nero moran against non blanc vestiTU behaves like any regular matchup

#

mhm interesting

#

one would think you're both copying each other homeworks based on those teams susge

shell hazel
#

we did lmao

shell hazel
#

bsoda probably a decent counter with bay think her burst is aoe?

#

my SG's lost to a similar comp before but was Noah instead of Bay, but I felt like Noah in that team is just a huge waste of Noah

hollow lagoon
shell hazel
#

oh btw I really like the noise skin you have zanta but damn $20 for skin alone was too much for me on that one

#

I only did that for Alice one so far ๐Ÿ˜„

hollow lagoon
#

i like noise mroe than alice

shell hazel
#

if you want the skins getting them with the passes and the tickets is so much better value

hollow lagoon
#

and tha skin really work with noise's skintone

shell hazel
#

obv before our time

#

yeah it looks great I'd buy if it was a bit less

#

but I don't want to $20 skin with nothing else if I can avoid

hollow lagoon
#

i dont get all of them, only the ones i like

shell hazel
#

before gacha skin the only other one I'd have considered was the helm one I think

#

the gown dress thing

hollow lagoon
#

helm and isabel one i gonna get if it re runs

shell hazel
#

but with the gacha one I doubt I'll use it, does look great though

#

isabel hard skip for me for sure

#

drake one with the sunglasses looks cool as well

#

as does noir/blanc ones

long chasm
shell hazel
#

display bug with the molds atm

long chasm
#

It make us dont get extra body for nikke

hollow lagoon
#

non zero chance i build isabel for upcoming raid

shell hazel
#

hmm pepehmmm

#

long list of stuff to build ahead of that still

#

we're about 3 weeks away from anni I think - I'm going to have to save stuff

#

soon even gear xp will want to OL the new pilgrim asap

#

I'm going to see if I can avoid spending skill books and rocks for now

#

oh yeah and doll mats, might be another CA of barely build xanne at least...

gritty ridge
#

Btw hippo

#

You wanna see if you can make me better defense teams?

shell hazel
#

I think you can cook the best teams already ๐Ÿ™‚

#

for your roster

#

you've graduated as railtracers student

#

I'd also say if you're not losing, don't change anything. Only change if you feel you need to

gritty ridge
#

I wanna eventually drop the cp team 3 and run real teamsKEKW

placid bloom
#

you have to invest in PvP for like 3-4 months straight to have real teams

shell hazel
#

need a lot of built units for it

gritty ridge
shell hazel
#

2 teams + cp pad can be effective also

placid bloom
#

all your SR doll mats and all your interception gear exp

#

have to go into batteries and PvP nukers

gritty ridge
#

Thats what ive been doing

placid bloom
#

your skill books too

gritty ridge
#

I shouldn't need to invest any other pve units for quite a while

placid bloom
#

if you're lucky you can finish like 3 chars a month, but without full burst weekend it's closer to 2.5 a month FrimaSleep

#

snail pace progress

#

or you can cash and speed up the process clueless

shell hazel
#

can SR-15 maybe 2 units a month but I do re-roll dispatches a bit

#

source: have about 24 units SR-15 after 1 year of playing almost lol

#

mind you drake event injected a couple of those

placid bloom
#

well Bigboi spends a bit so maybe he can invest in extra wipeout and dispatch reroll

shell hazel
#

I've split focus a bit on campaign + pvp and only now really starting to get to a point where I have most pvp units where I want them (minus a lot of rocks re-rolling)

#

skills / dolls on core units pretty good. CA extended what I had to build a bit though, if building for CA also it needs even more than a few months

gritty ridge
#

I only have 13 sr15 NoahCry

shell hazel
#

but you only played 6 months you said so it's about right

#

double that time and boom about my count

cunning crown
shell hazel
#

wipeout free + 50 + 70 + 100 as a light spender is doable

#

espcially if you consider the 3000 gems from pvp as put towards that goal

gritty ridge
#

5 months and 20 daysDoro

keen vapor
tropic summit
shell hazel
#

I don't doll dispatch reset too much, do you do that at all bigboi?

shell hazel
#

yeah similar then, I don't go crazy it's not worth it

gritty ridge
#

I usually get it back from dispatch as well

gaunt pulsar
#

as a relatively new player myself i think once is always worth it, and i'm not even at full dispatch list from outpost core upgrades, like there a good chance you just get all you spend there back in form of gems

shell hazel
#

yeah can happen indeed

#

I've had some that went from OK to junk though ๐Ÿ˜„

gritty ridge
#

The gems are just a nice bonus, the dust is what im going forRajangRizz

shell hazel
#

yeah I want core dust/doll crates more than gems just often gems appear for me

gaunt pulsar
#

i'm doing it mainly for dolls, and dust is bonus Doro

shell hazel
#

nice getting 10 core dust crates from dispatch sometimes

#

has happened a few times

gaunt pulsar
#

2 month of gametime, 1 RL doll adedizzy

shell hazel
#

yeah though you can swap 3 purple doll for a selector. I tend to just always select the purple RL doll using the Solo Raid level 7 box

gritty ridge
#

I get so many sg dollsKEKW

shell hazel
#

pvp focus needs a lot of RL dolls

gritty ridge
#

Yeah, most of my units are just blue dolls

#

Im hoping this raid gives me some rl dolls

gaunt pulsar
ionic rose
#

I lost top 16 due having 0 scarlet dupes

#

Bro literally had a last nikke at 3% hp

#

And then i got that Scarlet Dupe just today

cunning crown
keen vapor
ionic rose
keen vapor
#

CrownHUH Laplace too

ionic rose
#

Yeah my scarlet team is jackal,scarlet,blanc,maiden and laplace

#

So that 3% hp definitely would be byebye if i got those dupes a few days earlier

shell hazel
#

this is with starting everyone on blue dolls and giving them out to the main units + some random ones I've not really used much

gaunt pulsar
fast nest
#

Hello. Any better option for replacement of SBS?
I have run jackal SBS blanc comp for CA but it seemed not good.
SBS couldnt do anything against noah biscuit.
I considered Ein but I heard Ein's feather may keep attacking noah because of taunt.
Would SAnis be better?

fast nest
#

I gonna consider SAnis then because I run my besti on diff squad.

#

Hmm how about ada? Is there any research for ada?

tidal lichen
#

no clue havent tried her yet

coarse lake
shell hazel
#

sbs and sanis both abusable, better with vesti or hell even ada lol

umbral belfry
#

ohkoing with indom ada poggies

shell hazel
#

did you survive Hime for top 8?

#

or were you dead already? ๐Ÿ™

umbral belfry
#

I am fighting my pie brethren

shell hazel
#

you got this Hime, I believe!

umbral belfry
#

5 champs in this top 8 CrownHUH

shell hazel
#

I see evil cup there

umbral belfry
#

even if I lose it's okay, that just means a pie in top 4poggies

shell hazel
#

๐Ÿท

#

piggy is back

umbral belfry
umbral belfry
shell hazel
#

radeki is a ๐Ÿณ

#

a lot of competition Hime but believe in the me that believes in you

umbral belfry
#

I will do my bestfight

shell hazel
formal quiver
#

readeki is f2p

tropic summit
#

free 2 pay

gritty ridge
#

Yeah radeki is f2p

shell hazel
#

bigboi f2p

#

hime f2p

#

we're all f2p here pepehmmm

coarse lake
umbral belfry
#

can confirm

shell hazel
#

as agreed

#

just hide from Rail for a bit

placid bloom
#

smh when you guys gonna become p2w like me clueless

shell hazel
#

could never

umbral belfry
#

same I would never spend a penny on nikke

shell hazel
#

just multiple pennies stacked into dollars

#

sorry @hollow lagoon @cunning crown can't vote on your games ๐Ÿ™

leaden canyon
#

@tropic summit I know my round 2 will win but idk how to deal with the other two

#

I know the ada team can kill that cindy team but the cp deficit and its 3RL

#

idk if I can survive before bursting on it

shell hazel
#

I have a recording when you get online next

short moon
#

@umbral belfry are you going to booli phoric?

#

My frame depends on your answer :<

formal quiver
#

its a flip on soda stun

shell hazel
umbral belfry
#

it's gonna depend on soda rng

#

I can't help you CrownHUH

short moon
#

๐Ÿ˜ญ

umbral belfry
#

but I will say most times single scar doesn't beat stall

#

so voting phoric is a safe pick, just be mindful it's rng if soda stuns helm

#

bc then no b1 in time

#

sooo vote carefully CrownHUH

short moon
#

Are the other fights even?

umbral belfry
#

yes

#

it depends on t1 rng

shell hazel
hollow lagoon
#

I think i win the stall vs stall but

#

Too lazy to think for the other ones

shell hazel
#

meh you gotta back yourself anyway right

#

I only backed you because it was you and it gave me the win/win lol

hollow lagoon
#

I always back my self

#

Except when I fight u

shell hazel
#

normally I'd back myself

#

yeah ๐Ÿ™‚

#

I'd do that again if we fight again

hollow lagoon
tropic summit
hollow lagoon
#

Let me seee

tropic summit
#

where le popcorno record

hollow lagoon
#

@umbral belfry still pink

shell hazel
tropic summit
#

else punish T3 with padded scar-jack

oak hatch
#

Would it be better if I swapped in t vesti here in place of no favorite item drake

tropic summit
#

rapu didn't get even downed, god comp poggies

#

looks consistent enough

shell hazel
#

see how xmaiden good as b3 on scar team

tropic summit
#

now tell him to get 2RL indom vesti pls

shell hazel
#

and vesti nearly died but np if she did

#

my rapu pretty chonk ๐Ÿ™‚

#

SR-15 10/7/7

tropic summit
#

need to beat vestiTU on indom 2RL with that comp EinkkPoint

#

go tell him to change def EinkkPoint

#

learn chinese to communicate with him EinkkPoint

shell hazel
#

lmao

#

would it win though? at 2rl surely blanc will indom successfully

tropic summit
#

ya but vestiTU will get stuck on p1

#

she'll delete p2 and p3 although

#

then you out trade with who remains alive on p4 and p5

shell hazel
#

her burst hits all 5 though no?

tropic summit
#

iirc her burst isn't lethal?

shell hazel
#

can be, it can depend

hollow lagoon
tropic summit
#

it's the followup shoots

shell hazel
tropic summit
#

if they're locked in p1 should be a-ok

shell hazel
#

it also depends what they move to do it, if they weaken cindy comp it becomes viulnerable as well

gritty ridge
hollow lagoon
shell hazel
#

just need some nero dupes even mlb is fine

tropic summit
leaden canyon
hollow lagoon
#

Ok 8/7/7 now

tropic summit
#

if 2.5RL, you can afford losing out jackal

oak hatch
leaden canyon
tropic summit
#

no reason tanking your CP to gain a bit of speed

tropic summit
oak hatch
north brook
leaden canyon
#

vesti has lower health pool

#

should get indom I think

north brook
#

i mean vesti emi hit at same time

tropic summit
leaden canyon
#

oh

north brook
#

same frame, it makes emi s2 do dumb damage

tropic summit
#

works better as a flex unit

leaden canyon
#

idk I couldn't tell last time I looked because I didn't understand how to read the chart

north brook
#

in nikke work, need both of their hits on same frame

leaden canyon
#

^thats the cs

north brook
#

mbe try adding a bit of cs on vesti in that sim, 1 more bracket

leaden canyon
oak hatch
tropic summit
leaden canyon
tropic summit
oak hatch
#

I see, Iโ€™ll leave her out then ty prayge

leaden canyon
tropic summit
north brook
#

hm guess vesti emi syncing one of their first shots requires slower emi

tropic summit
#

don't rely on that sync shot bug

#

risking a ban for something that gets fixed in a few weeks prolly not worth it

north brook
#

emi s2 just always been like this i think

leaden canyon
#

is that a better order

#

still need siren to sack

tropic summit
#

although still kind of a gamble

leaden canyon
#

do I vigor siren or nah

#

I'm not at deficit

#

So idk how fast she dies

tropic summit
#

against no splasher/SGs siren can survive 2RL on SR15 + temperance

leaden canyon
#

also its a 3RL team

tropic summit
#

against splasher or single SG she can die within 2RL

leaden canyon
#

hmm so maybe she actually dies in a 3RL

#

the timing would be tight

north brook
#

theres no way they would ban ppl for the units working wrong though

tropic summit
#

as i said, i wouldn't risk it so it's up to you

hollow obsidian
#

watching a JP guy cooked this order and the result is similar.
his cindy got killed and didn't burst
his mihara killed everything except indom'ed opponent
his rumani out indom and won

Bas7ial vid was also about who out indom who anyway.

north brook
#

its like saying ppl should stop using mihara in pve because her kit is coded poorly so it does more damage than its supposed to

tropic summit
#

tbh it's hard to draw a line, although something that deletes a team within 1RL should raise a few more questions

#

if you don't see anything wrong there all good... i clearly see it pain

hollow obsidian
#

it is different situation than the Alice charge bug

north brook
#

i mean i think emis kit has always been bugged like this....since it could do this with other units before like laplace t

hollow obsidian
#

and i think they will fix it anyway so no point in chasing for temporary power

tropic summit
#

maybe, if there's a bug/unintended coding, should we endorse abusing a bug or actually giving feedback to get it fixed?

leaden canyon
#

I had vigor on her

tropic summit
#

temperance MIGHT give you that tiny bit of time to cast B1

leaden canyon
#

nope still died

tropic summit
#

well it's really pushing it afterall

hollow obsidian
#

even noise / noah cannot tank. i doubt siren can whyyy

gritty ridge
#

Ok im available now

#

Is this worth a rock lock?

north brook
#

unless going broke on the locks use them whenever in place of rocks

gritty ridge
#

There is no better lines for her, im probably gonna be dumping alot of rocks into that piece trying to get better values

north brook
#

since it alr has the 3 final lines its prob fine

#

if it didnt itd take potentially more on top of trying to get the right lines

gritty ridge
#

Im just glad I rolled the perfect ammo line

#

Puts me at exactly 32 ammo

lone sequoia
shell hazel
#

some people probably accidentally sync shot, just they could fix and waste of resources trying to sync stuff

lone sequoia
tropic summit
gritty ridge
lone sequoia
#

SU banned people who got social points by accident when there was the exploit with the mail

shell hazel
#

yeah it would be like them banning people for abusing the seasonal bugs

tropic summit
#

a friend of mine got banned for a day because they assumed he was using macro with alice

lone sequoia
#

even some people said that i was getting social points with that bug and i was... i don't pull

tropic summit
#

but there was no basis to even ensure it was true, they never gave proof hmmz

shell hazel
shell hazel
#

so many people seem to macro with alice, I don't do it but my alice always sucks dmg wise ๐Ÿ˜„

tropic summit
#

it really takes nothing to actually do decent

#

you don't need to ensure you don't waste 0.1 per charged shoot

#

just time your clicks

shell hazel
#

yeah I try lmao just I'm not perfect ๐Ÿ˜›

tropic summit
shell hazel
#

I dislike manual alice anyway tbh, I do it for SR and such

lone sequoia
#

i tried before the ban and got more dmg manual; crit rng
but the main point for some people is the health risk

gritty ridge
shell hazel
#

but am glad I got rapi for campaign ๐Ÿ˜„

gritty ridge
shell hazel
#

honestly they making alice better with fast shots is just part of the game, just lucky we're getting to a point of alice being powercrept out eventually anywya

#

I had to manual alice for some campaign bits before I got my rapi stuff done

gritty ridge
#

I never had to alice mald

#

Cuz i have redhood

lone sequoia
#

rh released after a year

shell hazel
#

yeah I was running RH + Alice at the same time for a bit

lone sequoia
#

pve team was liter/centi/alice/priv/flex

shell hazel
#

as my cindy was lacking gear for a time

spiral onyx
lone sequoia
#

and you have to pause to kill the mobs in the back

haughty mortar
#

If someone has not told you guys today: Y'all wonderful!

spiral onyx
#

So whether or not I run Mihara next CA will depend on the win rate results from my test matrix

shell hazel
lone sequoia
#

mihara rng, 4 marks most of the time, after that is dupes or blanc/biscuit, 2nd team makima/biscuit, without those or biscuit you need high core count

haughty mortar
quartz rover
#

Do you think I can do this with a slight power deficit?

#

My team is 4rl somehow lol

#

Theirs is like 100rl

lone sequoia
#

sbs against ssrapi

gritty ridge
lone sequoia
#

naga will kill ein and rapi sbs

quartz rover
#

Will she fix this problem

lone sequoia
#

if you already win the other 2 fights you can test

shell hazel
#

might win by virtue of you actually burst this century

#

but otherwise I'd hit the other 2 teams as more reliable

quartz rover
quartz rover
#

The only reliable is team 2 and team 3

shell hazel
#

the rapu grave team is bants

quartz rover
#

Bants?

shell hazel
#

RH is your b2 naturally

quartz rover
#

Oh thats just slow Cindy I didnt change anything

gritty ridge
#

Cindy p1hmmz

quartz rover
#

I was going to swap it out

shell hazel
#

it's slow cindy maybe yeah but think you still want blanc to b2 then ๐Ÿ˜›

quartz rover
#

I could probably slot rh or Cindy in team 3 for the power

shell hazel
#

what would crush the t1 is jackal/biscuit feed from that

#

but I suspect too low cp

#

or just jackal and otherwise high cp

quartz rover
#

What I'm using for team 3 is like my top 7 nikke power wise

#

Ein for Cindy or rh may get the last bit

shell hazel
#

yeah you're still in range then as well

#

keep RH on the other team can use as main burst and b1

quartz rover
#

Ah alright

shell hazel
#

actually we have enough burst units

#

so RH over should be fine

quartz rover
#

Cindy makes the power 312k

shell hazel
#

are you expecting sbs to die?

quartz rover
#

Idk why she has rhe most power of all my nikke

shell hazel
#

cindy can stay with slow cindy team

quartz rover
#

To die or get stunned yeah

shell hazel
#

yeah that should work

#

slot someone in for RH, mihara works if you have her

#

even if low cp you can shed a bit there and she'll dot them

quartz rover
#

I dont have midhara

shell hazel
#

siren then, additional stun impact

#

doesn't matter if she dies chain for b1 is rumani b2 blanc b3 cindy

quartz rover
#

The dude is gonna login like "wtf how did he beat me" KEKW

shell hazel
#

and if siren doesn't die she can do a better b1 than rumani

quartz rover
#

Cause 60 sync diff is CRAZY work

#

Oh he's one off from the big power boost too

shell hazel
#

they're only 1 level off the cp jump though

#

yeah, record/send that should win I think

hollow lagoon
#

who?

shell hazel
#

interested to see ๐Ÿฟ

hollow lagoon
#

oh shiet 242 vs 300

shell hazel
#

yeah lol

quartz rover
#

Like this?

shell hazel
#

rapi will b3 if RH is present afaik

#

just in case you expected her to b1

quartz rover
#

Sbs died too fast

shell hazel
#

I could be wrong but I think she sticks to b3

tidal lichen
quartz rover
shell hazel
#

rapi stays b1?

tidal lichen
#

yea

gritty ridge
#

Rh, Tia, b.alice, x.rupee aren't real b1

#

Also rrh will not work as a b1 for rrh in coop

shell hazel
#

it's unlucky to lose that

#

shame your slow cindy comp is low cp as I think that would also chomp that team up

#

if you had trina built you could also trina/moran some invincibility but I think at a certain point it's just sync gap

quartz rover
#

Nah it's 100% sync gap

keen vapor
#

Talking about me?

quartz rover
#

Idk what that dude did to get that much sync

#

Nobody else is even close

shell hazel
#

some people just literally buy levels

#

check how many outfits they have

keen vapor
#

I live in constant synch gap bc Check doesn't saves core dust

tidal lichen
quartz rover
#

I wanted to show big bird I was the biggest bird

shell hazel
#

they're not a mega hyper whale at least not that many cores

gritty ridge
quartz rover
#

stay away

#

Ill say some gamer words

gritty ridge
#

Nuh uh lemme

#

Im only 20 sync above you

#

and im higher cp than your whale

quartz rover
#

This dude has some sloppy teams, think he's just trying to power gap

gritty ridge
#

Cmon lemme in ill be nice

#

Whats ur server number

quartz rover
#

12296

shell hazel
#

tbh that one extra sync they need will come pretty quick NoahCat

gritty ridge
#

Lemme in

keen vapor
keen vapor
#

Hime's bully shake

gritty ridge
shell hazel
#

Echo should I?

keen vapor
#

I will

shell hazel
#

am thinking about it

keen vapor
#

Dam, 297 gives that much